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I'm on a journey around an exotic and beautiful land at the edge of Europe.

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I'm in Ireland.

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It's a place that's so near and yet can seem so far away

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and I've never really explored it.

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I'm going to travel all the way around Ireland by land...

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by sea...

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and by air.

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This is incredible!

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I want to find out more about this island

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divided between two countries

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with an often troubled history.

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I'll be meeting the enterprising...

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Yes, here's success.

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Success, excellent.

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..and the mildly eccentric.

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I just keep getting offered more monkeys, you know.

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-You would take more if you could?

-Yeah, absolutely.

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'This is a land steeped in religious faith.'

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What are you doing?!

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-Why barefoot?

-Well, they say it's the proper way to do it.

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'And in ancient myths and legends...'

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I meet people regularly who have met the fairies

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and you don't interfere with them.

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-Don't mess with the fairies.

-Exactly.

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But in the 21st century, many here are embracing extraordinary changes.

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Who would've thought that homosexuality would unify Ireland?

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I mean, that's pretty amazing.

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On this first leg of my journey,

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I'm travelling all the way from the south

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up the west coast to Ireland's most northerly point.

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I'm heading to Ireland at a really exciting time.

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There have been dramatic changes there in recent years.

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They just voted for gay marriage, for goodness' sake.

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Whatever you think of that,

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you've got to see the values of profound cultural change

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for an Ireland that is generally considered to be

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overwhelmingly Catholic and conservative.

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Ireland's so close to Britain but it can seem so far away.

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It's just over 60 miles from Fishguard in Wales

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to Rosslare in the Republic of Ireland.

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Despite its dramatic and painful history,

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everybody says Ireland is one of the most welcoming parts of the planet.

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If I can't have a good time there, I should probably hand in my passport.

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Just a couple of hours across the Irish Sea and we're here.

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I better get my bags.

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Look at this.

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The tourist board has even turned the sunshine on for us

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which is very considerate.

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Welcome to Ireland!

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There's lots of words that spring to mind when you think of Ireland

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but faith and identity, I think, are very high up the list.

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And I wonder if that's still true today.

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Be really interesting to find out on this journey.

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I'm starting in the south in the Republic of Ireland,

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home to roughly 4.5 million people,

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not much more than half the population of London.

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Just a short drive along the coast from the ferry port in Rosslare,

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I'd arranged to meet a man with a unique perspective

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on Ireland's history and culture.

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So I've come here to meet an explorer called Mike O Shea...

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who explores the landscape of Ireland using paramotors.

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And I'm going to join him.

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-Bloke in green hat. Mike.

-Yes, sir, how you doing?

-Hello, mate.

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-Simon Reeve.

-How you doing? Welcome.

-Lovely to meet you.

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-Thank you for having us along.

-Well, this is it. This is your paramotor.

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It's a motorised engine that we put on our back

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-so we wear it similar to a rucksack.

-You strap it to your back...

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You strap it to your back,

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you attach the wing, which is a paramotoring wing here.

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It's the same as a paragliding wing

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but it's designed specifically with more speed for motoring.

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Forgive me for saying, but is one essential part of this the...?

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Do you need to have a screw loose?

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MIKE LAUGHS

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No, we usually check that before we start!

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-I mean, obviously I can see the attraction...

-Yeah.

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..I can see why it might be a lot of fun.

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What do you get from paramotoring

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that you can't get from tramping by foot across the landscape?

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Well, I think if you walk,

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you get, obviously, a very low level point of view,

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whereas when you get up into the air and you start seeing,

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you start seeing where churches are based, where castles are based,

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you can actually see that it actually makes a lot of sense.

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Some of the castles, some of the round towers and stuff,

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they're on hills and stuff like that. They'll actually offer,

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you know, really good defensive viewing for them to look out

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and see what's coming. So it's a whole other perspective.

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Now, look, somebody's had the crazy idea

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that I'm going to come up with you

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and see you in action on one of these

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and you've got your mate Kester over here.

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-This is Kester. So, Kester...

-Hello, Kester!

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'As a complete novice, I was flying in tandem with Kester Haynes,

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'an experienced instructor.'

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-OK, if you hold up the bar at the front for me...

-Yeah.

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Bloody mad!

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OK, push, push, push, keep pushing.

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Whoa! Oh, my God!

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Trying to remain calm but this is incredible!

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I was a swift convert to the joy of paramotoring.

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Mike was right,

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it really does give you a new perspective on the lay of the land.

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In 1169, what many people think of

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as the first English invasion of Ireland

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took place here at Bannow Bay.

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It was actually the Anglo-Normans who arrived.

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We're coming in now and I can see Bannow Bay

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and you can see exactly why the Anglo-Normans wanted to come in here.

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It's wide, it's sheltered, there's a white, sandy beach,

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plenty of space to get their ships onto it.

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Our altitude revealed an Anglo-Norman church built high on the headland,

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a clear statement of power and that they were planning to stay.

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Wow! We're coming in.

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Whoa!

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Seems I've lost engine power!

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Stay steady on your feet and turn to your left.

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Kester, that was incredible. That was the smoothest landing I...

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Well, I'm blown away, mate.

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I'm blown away by the whole experience, I really am.

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Mike!

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I'm in love, Mike! I'm selling the car, Mike. I'm selling the house.

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Congratulations on your first flight,

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-well done.

-I have to get one.

-You enjoy that?

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-Yeah, you could say that.

-Yeah.

-I feel quite...

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I feel quite euphoric.

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I think I need a hug.

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Many historians say the landing here

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led to centuries of English occupation,

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but that wasn't how it began.

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So strange to be here,

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to think that 850 years ago,

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this is where the English first arrived, where they invaded.

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I say invaded,

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they were basically invited in.

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And they weren't just the English, they were Anglo-Normans,

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a lot of them were French.

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The invading foreign mercenaries were invited in by an Irish chieftain

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who wanted help to defeat his enemies.

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It BECAME an English occupation but it started out as something else.

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A century after the Battle of Hastings

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and the Norman conquest of England,

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it was Ireland's turn.

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This was one of the first Norman churches in Ireland.

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This is a church of course, but it's also a memorial.

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It marks the spot where Irish history was changed forever.

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The invasion led to what many Irish would see

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as centuries of colonisation and subjugation by the English.

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There's really nowhere closer to England

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that the English treated quite so badly as Ireland and the Irish.

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Part of what lured the Anglo-Normans here initially

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were the huge tracks of fertile farmland on the island.

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I wanted to see what they'd been after.

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I headed to one of the best areas of farmland in Europe.

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To get from County Wexford to County Waterford,

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I could've travelled 25 miles by road around this bay

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but it's a lot more fun to hop on the ferry.

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Thanks to healthy quantities of sunshine

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and occasionally just a little bit of rain,

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Ireland's been famous for its dairy products for more than 1,000 years.

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Those cliches about the Emerald Isle really are true.

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Ireland is very green.

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Ireland has been exporting butter right back to the time of St Patrick.

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I'm now heading into an area called the Golden Vale

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and I am off to meet a farmer.

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The Golden Vale is an area of fertile pastures

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spanning the counties of Limerick, Tipperary and Cork.

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It's home to some of Ireland's leading dairy farmers.

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This is lovely.

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-Hello. Pat?

-Hello, welcome.

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Simon Reeves. Hello.

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'Pat Mulrooney has been farming here for more than 40 years.'

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-You're hoovering the kitchen!

-I escaped,

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I don't have to do it.

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Oh, come on, let's escape.

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'He's done a few unconventional things that have earned him

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'a reputation as a bit of a maverick.'

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I believe you've also got an absolutely crucial farm worker

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-here called Gretchen.

-Oh, yes. Actually...

-Can we meet Gretchen?

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You're headed in the right direction.

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-So Gretchen is through here.

-Gretchen's through here.

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The office is there and all the computerised stuff.

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-I've heard stories about Gretchen.

-Yes.

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This is Gretchen.

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SIMON LAUGHS

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You've got a robot called Gretchen milking your cows.

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Well, I should maybe explain the Gretchen bit.

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-You see, she rings me on a regular basis.

-Right.

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Sometimes in the middle of the night when I'm having my dreams

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and I don't like it.

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So I had to give it a name that I didn't particularly like...

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So this robot, if it's got a problem,

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it calls you up on your mobile phone and tells you, "I've got a problem."

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-Yes.

-Right. Oh, my goodness.

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So there's some brushing of teat going on, I think.

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-Brushing and washing.

-Right.

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-And now look, the brushes are moving out of the way.

-Yeah.

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Oh, my goodness. Can't be positioning... Oh, no.

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Oh, God, look at that.

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Suckers are moving into position.

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I can see red lasers flashing all around her udders.

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It looks sort of ridiculous, to be honest,

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but at the same time it's... It's genius.

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-Look!

-There we go.

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-It's filling up in here.

-Yep.

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This looks like a huge investment of money and time.

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What are the main advantages to you

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and to the cows of having a robot in here?

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To me, it eliminates a lot of the labour.

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For the cow, they've become terribly independent.

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What, do you mean they wander in when they want to be milked?

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They come when they want to be milked.

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So you're not forcing a daily cycle on them?

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No, they dictate their own movements.

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Pat says Gretchen reduces injuries cows can sustain

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on many dairy farms when they're herded together for milking.

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The robot fits with his ethos,

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Pat was one of the first organic farmers in Ireland.

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Organic doesn't just mean no pesticides, it's about respect

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and even love for the land and animals.

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It's an ethical belief.

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Well, this is a lovely sight.

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Why did you want to become an organic farmer?

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This is a lovely asset, lovely farm and my ambition is

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to actually hand it on in better condition than I got it.

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I don't want to destroy it.

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The sense I get from you, though,

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is that the reason you decided to farm organically

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wasn't just environmental, but it was ethical as well.

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-It was moral.

-Yes, moral, ethical, very much so.

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I think...

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people are going too far in just looking at it

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as a commercial operation.

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That's not for me.

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I want to see the quality food,

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I want to see the environment looked after

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and I want to see the animal actually having a nice lifestyle.

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-We're in rural Ireland...

-Yes.

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..this is Ireland that I've always thought of as being very religious,

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very Catholic.

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But at... I get this slight feeling for you that,

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I'm not suggesting that one has replaced the other,

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but that your organic faith is a belief

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that's comparable to conventional religion.

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Well, first of all I suppose Ireland is a very different place

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than it was 20, 30 years ago. Very different place.

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It's not controlled by churches any more.

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People, I'm glad to say, have started to think for themselves.

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I always thought for myself and I always said I'm...

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I'm socially a Catholic.

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-It ends there.

-It ends there, that's it?

-It ends there, yes.

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I've always thought of the Republic of Ireland

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as being profoundly Catholic but Pat's view is now widely held here.

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The power of the Church has hugely declined in recent years,

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driven in large part by a series of scandals about child sex abuse

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and the treatment of unmarried mothers.

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Many of the roles previously performed by the Church,

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such as looking after the urban poor, have had to be taken up by others.

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I'm heading towards the city of Cork.

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Cork's had a tough time during Ireland's recent economical problems

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and I'm now heading to a place that's been dealing

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with some of the fallout.

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This soup kitchen was established more than 100 years ago,

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probably by Christians, but today it's run as a charity

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by a team of magnificent, altruistic volunteers.

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-Catriona, hello.

-Hello.

-Simon Reeve, sorry.

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Sorry to interrupt.

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SIMON'S LAUGHTER DROWNS SPEECH

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-Hi, Simon. Welcome.

-You're a little bit busy.

-Yup.

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-Welcome to Penny Dinners.

-Are you always a little bit busy?

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Always busy. It's never any other way.

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-No standing around here, is there?

-No, no. You don't have time...

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Everybody's a volunteer so when everybody comes,

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they come to work, like, so everybody's under that.

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And the trick is the more you do, the younger you look. I'm about 96.

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-Are you? 96 years old, you're doing all right.

-96 years old, yeah.

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Catriona Twomey has volunteered at Cork Penny Dinners

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since her dad started bringing her here when she was a child.

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She's now grafting here seven days a week.

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Going back about five, six years ago before the recession, it was...

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It was just maybe, I'd say less than 100 people a week, you know,

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sometimes maybe 40, 50, 60 people.

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But now we're feeding 1,500 plus because with the recession...

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-My goodness.

-..it's growing in numbers the whole time.

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Penny Dinners welcomes anyone and everyone.

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Morning.

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We'll just get things ready.

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This is bread that we collect in the evenings from the bakeries...

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'Most of the food is donated by private companies

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'and collected by the volunteers.

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'Some of whom even work here during their school holidays.'

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How have you managed to get these youngsters to be doing this?

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-They've asked to come...

-No, I'm going to make you stand there.

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-I'm going to ask them.

-OK.

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-Have you all volunteered or are you being forced to do this?

-Volunteered.

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-Volunteered.

-Come on now! Is that the truth?

-Yeah.

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You've volunteered to be here at ten o'clock on a Wednesday morning

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-peeling potatoes.

-Half eight.

-Half eight?!

-8:30, yeah.

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Half eight you got here.

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I mean, it's a lovely thing to do

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but it's not everybody's idea of a jolly morning, is it?

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I just thought, like, I'd come down for, like, experience

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and see how it was.

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And then I asked my friends if they wanted to do it

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and they agreed. Like, we came down

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and we actually enjoyed it.

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And I actually love coming down here now.

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She's here because I dragged her down... No, I didn't.

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She's my daughter.

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You've been held here since you were seven years old, working,

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-peeling potatoes. Oh, this is a...

-And carrots.

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..hark back to the 1800s, isn't it? Goodness me.

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Ireland's been on an economic rollercoaster.

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Following the global financial crisis that began in 2007

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and a series of banking scandals, the economy crashed.

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It's started to bounce back but many people have been left behind.

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If you had to say what were the main reasons

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that bring people in the door here, what would be the main issues?

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We're talking about people down on their luck

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and for whatever reason they're down on their luck,

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be it unemployment,

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be it not being able to keep a roof over your head -

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pay your mortgage, pay your rent -

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be it not being able to pay your bills

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so they have to come down here to fill that little gap in the wheel.

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Do you feel able to tell us what brings you here?

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Erm, loads of different issues, really. Er...

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Family problems, family break ups...

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Have you got work at the moment?

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I was working, I'm not working at the moment. I'm looking for work.

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And how easy or hard is that?

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It is difficult when you get older,

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it really gets that more difficult to get it.

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I'm just wondering whether volunteering here,

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has it strengthened your own personal religious faith?

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It strengthened my belief in the goodness of people.

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Because you have no idea how good people are to us.

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-This isn't run by the Church, is it?

-It's not run by them, no.

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And my impression would've been in what I still perceive

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as Catholic Ireland that this would've been the Church behind...

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Maybe Catholic Ireland was a caring Ireland, maybe that might be

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another good name for being Catholic. I'm a Catholic, right?

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And I care, you know, and...

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But I have friends, you know, of all different denominations

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and they care as well so maybe we should have a caring religion.

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I don't know, but what I'm saying is...

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-Move on from the religious aspect.

-Yeah, and just, you know...

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And just care.

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It's a good point.

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Of course you don't need to have a strong faith to give a damn.

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Until recently, Ireland was fervently Catholic.

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Many think that's a result of people seeking solace

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in religion during centuries of suffering.

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The key catastrophe in this country's history

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was the great famine of the 1840s.

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During the early 1800s, the Irish poor were labouring,

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often for English landlords,

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and they'd become heavily dependent on potatoes for food.

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When the potato crop was devastated by blight,

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farmers evicted tenants.

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Famine then claimed an estimated million lives.

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It was one of the greatest humanitarian tragedies of its time.

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-Hello, Pat.

-Simon.

-Thank you so much.

-Simon, you're very welcome.

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I'm glad you've brought a beautiful, fine day with you.

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-It looks beautiful on a day like today.

-It really does.

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Local historian Pat O'Donovan has studied what happened

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in one particular famine village on this hillside.

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There would've been over 1,200 people living round here

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at the time of the famine.

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-1,200 people living up here?

-1,200 people living here, yeah.

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And there was 123 houses recorded in 1851.

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What is a famine village?

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People had been evicted and they all just came to...

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and built a shelter for themselves, really.

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There was enough animals,

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there was enough corn to feed the population

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but it suited large landowners at that time to make their money

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and get these people off their holdings.

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So when the famine started, they were evicted from their homes...

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-That's right.

-..and they came...

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What, I presume they came up here because it was common land?

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It was common land, they couldn't be evicted out of this land.

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There was food here but many of the large landowners

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kept on selling and exporting it.

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So, people starved and they died up here in sight of food down there?

0:22:020:22:09

Looking down at corn.

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Looking down to there you can see fine cattle and corn fields

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all the time but they couldn't touch it, they were arrested or whatever.

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The work houses here in Limerick, there was over 200 dying a month

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in this particular area during the famine.

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-So, incredible levels of poverty and suffering.

-Incredible.

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This is a small but still surviving house, Pat. Has this been...?

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-This is one of the larger ones.

-Is it?

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-Has this been rebuilt?

-No.

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-Mind your head.

-OK.

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Do we know how many people were living here?

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There was an average in this area round here of a family of seven.

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For stone seats, there's one here and then, of course,

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you have the famous hob-seats, by the fire.

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Children or younger people would have sat on those

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and the fire in the middle.

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Ireland was part of the United Kingdom

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but when famine struck,

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the government in London did little to help.

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Some actually said the famine was a punishment from God.

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Pat, who should we blame for the famine?

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I suppose the English really at the end of the day

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and nobody else but the English and the landlords

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which they had planted in previous generations into this country

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to take over the land from the original Irish settlers.

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A million died, another million and a half migrated.

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Ireland's population today is still lower than it was before the 1840s.

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But in spite of the horrors visited on them by the famine,

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the potato remains an object of affection, even reverence.

0:23:480:23:52

I drove to Dingle in County Kerry on the west coast

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towards an event I just couldn't miss.

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I'm heading now into the rather stunning Dingle Peninsula

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and I'm on my way to a potato festival.

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The potato originally came from the high Andes.

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It grew well in Ireland because it tolerated a wet climate.

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Before the famine, many Irish ate potatoes for breakfast,

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lunch and dinner.

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An adult male might eat up to 70 potatoes a day.

0:24:270:24:30

'They still love them.

0:24:330:24:34

'This rather jolly Irish spud off is a local competition

0:24:340:24:37

'between potato growers.'

0:24:370:24:39

I'm being press-ganged into...

0:24:390:24:41

'Inevitably, I was roped in.'

0:24:410:24:42

OK. Thank you. Thank you.

0:24:420:24:45

Put your name on top of the lid.

0:24:450:24:48

You're going to be tasting nine spuds.

0:24:480:24:51

'On the panel was Miss Kerry 2015,

0:24:510:24:54

'as well as slightly more experienced judges.'

0:24:540:24:57

-It's water only, no pints.

-What?!

0:24:570:25:00

No butter, no salt, no pepper because, after all,

0:25:000:25:04

we're tasting spuds.

0:25:040:25:06

We're ready to roll. Potato number one.

0:25:060:25:09

We have blind tasting

0:25:090:25:11

and the judges don't know whose spuds are being tasted.

0:25:110:25:15

Quite dry but lots of flavour.

0:25:180:25:19

We are now tasting the second potato.

0:25:220:25:24

Oh, that looks fluffy, I would say.

0:25:260:25:28

'It wasn't just eating them, there was also a potato peeling competition

0:25:330:25:38

'and in my heat, I was matched with Miss Kerry.'

0:25:380:25:40

Are you a champion spud peeler?

0:25:420:25:44

I peel at home all the time but with a peeler, not a knife.

0:25:440:25:47

Ha-ha! So we have a fairly level playing field.

0:25:470:25:50

-What is your technique going to be?

-Are the contestants ready?

-No, no.

0:25:500:25:53

Ready, steady, go!

0:25:530:25:55

Come on!

0:25:570:25:59

Oh, no!

0:26:010:26:03

-20 seconds.

-No pressure.

-Come on, Simon!

-15 seconds.

0:26:030:26:07

-10 seconds.

-We need more...

0:26:070:26:10

-If there's peel left, you'll be disqualified.

-What?!

0:26:100:26:13

Four, three, two, one!

0:26:130:26:16

-Stop!

-CHEERING

0:26:160:26:18

Simon adopted a new technique that seemed to work very, very well.

0:26:190:26:25

So, the results.

0:26:250:26:27

In first place...

0:26:270:26:29

First, the winner of the blind taste test was announced.

0:26:290:26:32

Sean Phapa O Muircheartaigh.

0:26:330:26:36

CHEERING

0:26:360:26:38

Give somebody the pint and come on up.

0:26:410:26:43

'But of course all I really cared about was the potato peeling.'

0:26:490:26:52

-The second place at the peeling, we have Simon Reeve.

-No!

0:26:520:26:58

CHEERING

0:26:580:27:01

And, Simon, your prize is a bag of spuds,

0:27:010:27:06

from the champion grower.

0:27:060:27:09

CHEERING

0:27:090:27:11

Ireland's changed.

0:27:160:27:17

It's not stuck in the past as many outsiders seem to think.

0:27:170:27:21

But in rural Ireland, faith,

0:27:210:27:23

belief and ancient legends are still vital to many.

0:27:230:27:26

From the Dingle peninsula in County Kerry,

0:27:260:27:29

I drove north towards Limerick.

0:27:290:27:31

I was heading to meet someone who specialises in Irish folklore.

0:27:310:27:36

And I think this, according to the sat nav, is where he lives.

0:27:360:27:40

KNOCKING

0:27:500:27:52

Oh, my goodness. Oi, oi. Stay, are you supposed to stay?

0:27:530:27:57

-Catch him, get him!

-Monsters.

0:27:570:27:59

-They're feckers.

-Hello.

0:27:590:28:01

-Morning.

-Eddie? Simon Reeve, lovely to meet you.

0:28:010:28:05

-And my family.

-These are your family?

0:28:050:28:08

-Quite new additions by the look of them.

-Yes, indeed...

0:28:080:28:10

'Eddie Lenihan has spent a lifetime collecting stories that have

0:28:100:28:14

'been handed down by word of mouth.'

0:28:140:28:16

-You've got to stay.

-Come in, please.

0:28:160:28:18

Thank you very much.

0:28:180:28:20

Now, Eddie,

0:28:200:28:22

I hear that you're one of Ireland's foremost storytellers.

0:28:220:28:26

-Is that true?

-Well, I didn't say that.

0:28:260:28:29

Would you like that description?

0:28:290:28:30

The only stories I tell are the stories I've heard from old people

0:28:300:28:34

over the last 40 years

0:28:340:28:35

because the only stories I do tell are Irish traditional stories,

0:28:350:28:40

what you call legends.

0:28:400:28:42

-Right.

-And legends now in the true folklore sense,

0:28:420:28:46

things that are supposed to have happened and some of them I believe.

0:28:460:28:51

Fairy stories.

0:28:510:28:53

Now, remember,

0:28:530:28:55

Irish fairy stories aren't like what you normally hear of.

0:28:550:29:00

I meet people regularly, old people who have met the fairies.

0:29:000:29:05

-Who have met them.

-Goodness me,

0:29:050:29:07

and these are some of the stories you've collected?

0:29:070:29:10

Yes, and for example, the fairies, these old people would say,

0:29:100:29:14

are just like us.

0:29:140:29:16

They have their pastimes, they buy, they sell,

0:29:160:29:19

they have their roadways, they have their habitations,

0:29:190:29:22

their places where they live and you don't interfere with them.

0:29:220:29:25

If you do, you're on a loser in a big time.

0:29:260:29:30

It could cost you your life.

0:29:300:29:32

-Don't mess with the fairies.

-Exactly. Don't mess with them or else.

0:29:320:29:36

A surprising number of rural Irish do still believe in the little people

0:29:370:29:41

as they're known, although generally they don't admit it on camera.

0:29:410:29:45

In 1999, in a bid to protect a specific bush

0:29:460:29:50

he said was important for fairies,

0:29:500:29:52

Eddie campaigned to divert a new motorway.

0:29:520:29:55

He warned there could be deaths if the fairies were displaced.

0:29:550:29:59

After a long battle, he got his way.

0:29:590:30:02

-Now, here is the bush.

-OK.

0:30:030:30:07

The fairy bush. Right there in front of us.

0:30:070:30:10

Which one are you pointing at? The one over there next to the sign?

0:30:100:30:13

-Next to the signpost.

-It's a good sized bush, isn't it?

-It is, it is.

0:30:130:30:18

Have a look there now and you can see yourself.

0:30:240:30:28

Look at the variation there.

0:30:280:30:30

Look at how they went around the bush and you can see yourself

0:30:300:30:33

that there's a little bit of a bottleneck there.

0:30:330:30:37

So they moved the motorway to accommodate the bush,

0:30:370:30:40

to avoid messing with the fairies

0:30:400:30:43

and creating some sort of disaster as a result?

0:30:430:30:47

And I think they did the sensible thing.

0:30:470:30:49

In modern Ireland, with church attendance falling

0:30:510:30:56

-and big technology companies setting up here...

-Yes.

0:30:560:30:59

..is there still space for these stories?

0:30:590:31:02

More space than ever.

0:31:020:31:04

We need a different kind of faith - what people think.

0:31:040:31:06

And where people think about things like this,

0:31:060:31:09

think back about who we are and where our traditions come from.

0:31:090:31:12

By preserving Irish folklore,

0:31:140:31:16

Eddie's helping to preserve a sense of Irish national identity

0:31:160:31:19

and stories of leprechauns and giants are good business for Irish tourism.

0:31:190:31:24

I think Eddie's more than a storyteller who dabbles in folklore.

0:31:240:31:29

I think he's a sort of patriotic activist.

0:31:290:31:35

We need to have a few strange tales in our culture, in my view.

0:31:350:31:41

Be so boring without.

0:31:410:31:43

You don't have to believe in the fairies

0:31:440:31:47

to rather love the fairytales.

0:31:470:31:49

My journey was taking me up the stunning west coast of Ireland.

0:31:550:31:59

Recently rebranded by the tourist board,

0:31:590:32:01

with some justification, as the Wild Atlantic Way.

0:32:010:32:04

The weather had taken a turn for the worse

0:32:070:32:10

but it was still spectacular.

0:32:100:32:11

It's a dramatic coastline.

0:32:130:32:14

Look at the waves pounding the rocks down there.

0:32:190:32:22

It's thanks to the turbulent weather system and currents here

0:32:240:32:29

and these waves that Ireland's now home to a sport

0:32:290:32:31

you wouldn't normally associate with this part of the world.

0:32:310:32:35

Surfing!

0:32:370:32:38

Numerous boutique little surf schools have sprung up

0:32:470:32:50

in the seaside town of Lahinch in recent years.

0:32:500:32:53

Here we are. It's the surf school.

0:32:590:33:02

-Simon.

-Hey, John.

-Welcome to Lahinch, man.

0:33:110:33:13

-You're very welcome.

-Thank you very much indeed.

0:33:130:33:15

Thanks for having us along.

0:33:150:33:17

-For a surf lesson.

-I'm excited to bring you out.

0:33:170:33:19

You're going to love it. It's warm out there, Simon.

0:33:190:33:22

In the wild Atlantic, are you sure?

0:33:220:33:24

-Come on, let's do it!

-All right, all right!

-Come on.

0:33:240:33:27

You see I really feel the cold...

0:33:340:33:36

..so I might get another one.

0:33:370:33:39

I might need something even... A bit more than this though.

0:33:390:33:42

Yeah, we... Peter, we can keep giving Simon more layers.

0:33:420:33:45

Peter, can you, mate?

0:33:450:33:46

Like, most customers wear one wet suit

0:33:460:33:48

but if Simon needs three or four wet suits, let's do it, you know? OK.

0:33:480:33:53

We're off.

0:33:530:33:54

You can put the boards down here.

0:33:590:34:01

Oh, we're a bit close to the water already.

0:34:010:34:04

-Great, OK. Now, Simon.

-Yes.

0:34:040:34:06

-I've heard that you've surfed quite a number of times before.

-No, no.

0:34:060:34:09

So I've heard that you've picked up this information

0:34:090:34:12

from some of the best surfers

0:34:120:34:13

so you're going to show me what you've learnt.

0:34:130:34:15

-Basically I remember...

-Come on, on the board.

-Something about...

0:34:150:34:18

-Show me what you did.

-Something about that you paddle out...

0:34:180:34:23

like this. Then you see the wave, then you paddle a bit

0:34:230:34:26

-and then you sort of go...

-Wow, OK. That's good. That's good.

0:34:260:34:30

-Did you hear that?

-Yeah, that's good.

0:34:300:34:32

John McCarthy's a former Irish surfing champion

0:34:350:34:38

who travelled the world for years in search of the perfect wave.

0:34:380:34:41

But in 2002, he returned to Ireland and, as is so often the case,

0:34:430:34:48

realised that what he'd been searching for

0:34:480:34:50

was in his own back yard.

0:34:500:34:51

He found perfect waves, met the woman of his dreams,

0:34:530:34:56

got married and had children.

0:34:560:34:58

My attempts in the surf were pretty pathetic but it was fun

0:34:590:35:03

and you know what, I was toasty warm as well.

0:35:030:35:06

-It's beautiful here.

-Yeah.

-But it's not exactly Hawaii, is it?

0:35:180:35:22

Why have you...?

0:35:220:35:23

How would you compare surfing here on the west coast

0:35:230:35:26

to other great surf spots around the world?

0:35:260:35:30

Yeah, you know, if you wait around long enough

0:35:300:35:34

here on the west coast of Ireland, you will get the perfect wave.

0:35:340:35:38

On the best day here,

0:35:380:35:40

it's as good as anywhere in the world, maybe better.

0:35:400:35:43

A lot of surfers do talk about it as being an almost...

0:35:430:35:46

a mystical, glorious experience.

0:35:460:35:50

Would you go along with that?

0:35:520:35:53

That is the mystery of surfing is that, like, it can appear

0:35:530:35:57

very spiritual but, like, if you go out to a crowded beach in Australia,

0:35:570:36:02

surfers are, like, they're boxing each other.

0:36:020:36:05

-It's like, "That's my wave."

-Oh...

0:36:050:36:07

So it's actually super unspiritual but, like, on a good day to go out

0:36:070:36:12

with one friend and to see creation,

0:36:120:36:15

yeah, that's... It is a spiritual thing, yeah.

0:36:150:36:18

I'm a Christian, so, you know, the creation...

0:36:180:36:22

It points to the creator.

0:36:220:36:24

So surfing for me,

0:36:240:36:26

it is just like there's an opportunity

0:36:260:36:29

to see the awe of creation.

0:36:290:36:32

I don't share John's religious conviction

0:36:350:36:38

but I can completely understand

0:36:380:36:39

why being out in this stunning landscape

0:36:390:36:41

helps him to feel closer to his maker.

0:36:410:36:43

Ireland's gorgeous,

0:36:500:36:52

much more beautiful than I'd thought before coming here.

0:36:520:36:55

I headed on up the west coast and through the wild,

0:36:550:36:58

glorious region of Connemara, towards Ireland's most sacred mountain.

0:36:580:37:03

In the 5th century, Christianity was spread here by St Patrick

0:37:040:37:08

who's thought to have been a Welsh slave captured by Irish pirates.

0:37:080:37:12

He escaped his captors, studied as a priest

0:37:120:37:14

and then sailed back to Ireland, or so the stories say.

0:37:140:37:18

I was arriving at the holy mountain on the last Sunday in July,

0:37:180:37:22

when St Patrick's central role in Irish culture

0:37:220:37:24

is celebrated with a climb and a pilgrimage.

0:37:240:37:26

So, look, you can get a stick for climbing.

0:37:260:37:28

Three euros to buy, 1.50 to rent.

0:37:280:37:31

-Morning to you.

-How are you doing?

-All right, thank you.

0:37:330:37:36

'Thousands of hikers climb Croagh Patrick

0:37:360:37:38

'in honour of Ireland's patron saint.'

0:37:380:37:40

So this is the mountain where St Patrick,

0:37:470:37:50

the 5th century preacher,

0:37:500:37:52

who tramped and wandered around Ireland converting people

0:37:520:37:56

is said to have fasted for 40 days

0:37:560:37:59

while he was busy wrestling with demons

0:37:590:38:02

and banishing snakes from Ireland.

0:38:020:38:05

'But the first pilgrim I met was not from Ireland

0:38:050:38:08

'but the Philippines.'

0:38:080:38:09

-Are you offering a stick?

-Yes. I'm finished...

-Oh...

0:38:090:38:12

-So I'm handing it over to you now.

-That's very kind of you.

0:38:120:38:15

-Will I need it?

-You'll probably do when coming down.

-You think?

0:38:150:38:20

Why did you go up? Was it for exercise or for...?

0:38:200:38:23

No, it's my 13th year now.

0:38:230:38:25

I'm a missionary with the Columbans -

0:38:250:38:27

St Columban, an Irish saint.

0:38:270:38:29

-You came to Ireland as a missionary.

-Yes.

-To spread...

0:38:290:38:33

Well, they went to my country so it's now my turn to do the same.

0:38:330:38:37

Do you think the Irish have lost some of their faith, then?

0:38:370:38:40

I don't think so.

0:38:400:38:41

Look at these people here still coming here.

0:38:410:38:44

And perhaps maybe the connection with the church,

0:38:440:38:47

maybe that's the one that might not be strong at the moment

0:38:470:38:50

but certainly the faith is there. The faith is here.

0:38:500:38:54

That did seem to be the case on the evidence of all the people here

0:38:540:38:57

who are ignoring the worst weather in living memory

0:38:570:39:00

and the advice of the emergency services not to climb the mountain.

0:39:000:39:04

Sir...

0:39:100:39:12

-What are you doing?! Barefoot.

-Barefoot.

0:39:120:39:15

Why, why barefoot?

0:39:150:39:17

Well, they say it's the proper way to do it.

0:39:170:39:20

-It's good, you feel good after.

-Very impressive.

0:39:200:39:22

-And you have a warm bath when you get down.

-I will.

0:39:220:39:25

Croagh Patrick rises at its peak to more than 2,500 feet above sea level.

0:39:290:39:34

You can see the mountain has just rolled out from behind the clouds

0:39:380:39:42

and the rain.

0:39:420:39:43

That is Croagh Patrick.

0:39:440:39:46

Croagh Patrick was the sacred mountain for pagan Ireland

0:39:480:39:52

but Christians took it as their own sacred site.

0:39:520:39:54

It was something that early Christians did very well, actually.

0:39:540:39:57

If they turned up somewhere

0:39:570:39:58

and found that the heathens had views they wouldn't let go of,

0:39:580:40:01

they would co-opt or assimilate those pagan views into early Christianity.

0:40:010:40:06

That's one of the principle reasons Christianity spread so quickly

0:40:080:40:11

and took such a firm hold in Ireland following St Patrick's mission.

0:40:110:40:15

This is the steep and tricky bit.

0:40:190:40:22

It took me more than two hours to reach the peak of the mountain.

0:40:310:40:34

The top!

0:40:380:40:39

Look at the view!

0:40:400:40:41

It's not for the view

0:40:440:40:47

and it's not for faith in my case,

0:40:470:40:49

though it is for a lot of people here.

0:40:490:40:52

But it's for the fun, the excitement.

0:40:520:40:55

The feeling of accomplishment you get from climbing a mountain

0:40:550:40:58

is unbelievable.

0:40:580:41:00

This used to be the most Catholic country in the world.

0:41:010:41:06

In the early 1980s, almost 90% of Irish Catholics went to weekly mass.

0:41:060:41:10

25 years later, it was less than 20%.

0:41:100:41:13

Our Father who art in Heaven...

0:41:130:41:15

But many people's individual religious faith

0:41:150:41:18

clearly remains strong.

0:41:180:41:19

An estimated 10,000 people made the difficult climb

0:41:220:41:25

in spite of the awful weather.

0:41:250:41:26

I left Croagh Patrick in County Mayo and headed north,

0:41:380:41:41

leaving the Republic behind

0:41:410:41:43

and crossing the border into Northern Ireland.

0:41:430:41:45

Although you'd be hard pushed to notice.

0:41:450:41:48

Bloody hell.

0:41:490:41:51

There's a road sign in miles per hour, that means we must've...

0:41:510:41:55

We must've just crossed the border.

0:41:550:41:58

That's bizarre.

0:41:580:41:59

There's absolutely nothing saying, "Welcome to the UK.

0:41:590:42:03

"Welcome to Northern Ireland."

0:42:030:42:06

How strange.

0:42:060:42:08

By the early 17th century, Protestant England held sway

0:42:090:42:12

over most of Catholic Ireland.

0:42:120:42:14

But the north, the province of Ulster,

0:42:140:42:16

proved difficult to control.

0:42:160:42:18

During the reign of King James I,

0:42:180:42:20

a process began, partly to pacify the Irish,

0:42:200:42:22

known as the Plantation of Ulster.

0:42:220:42:25

Vast tracks of land were given to Protestant settlers from England

0:42:250:42:28

and mainly Scotland.

0:42:280:42:29

It was one of the most ambitious colonisation schemes

0:42:290:42:32

in modern Europe.

0:42:320:42:34

So I'm going to learn a bit about the history here

0:42:340:42:36

because we're coming to Crom Castle.

0:42:360:42:39

The castle is massive!

0:42:430:42:45

Crom Castle sits on a vast estate gifted by the crown 400 years ago

0:42:480:42:53

to a family who still live here.

0:42:530:42:54

-Lord Erne?

-Yes.

-Hello, Lord Erne. Simon Reeve.

-You're very welcome.

0:42:580:43:02

-Come along in.

-Thank you.

-Come on.

0:43:020:43:04

My goodness. Now, that's an entrance.

0:43:040:43:07

These steps are fairly steep

0:43:070:43:09

but so far nobody's ever actually fallen down them.

0:43:090:43:12

SIMON LAUGHS

0:43:120:43:13

It's a miracle.

0:43:130:43:14

SIMON GASPS

0:43:180:43:21

It's breathtaking.

0:43:210:43:22

Our family first arrived from Scotland.

0:43:220:43:26

And the first Creighton, our family name being Creighton,

0:43:260:43:30

arrived, married Bishop Spotiswood's daughter

0:43:300:43:33

and that's a picture up there of Bishop Spotiswood.

0:43:330:43:37

And the first Creighton was granted rather huge lands

0:43:370:43:42

out to Mayo and up to Donegal.

0:43:420:43:44

What are huge lands, do you know the size?

0:43:440:43:47

Erm, I do but I couldn't tell you exactly. But they were...

0:43:470:43:50

They boasted they could go from here to Dublin

0:43:500:43:53

-without going off their own land, via Mayo.

-My goodness.

0:43:530:43:57

So, it was huge.

0:43:570:43:58

And the west wing belongs to my son John

0:43:580:44:01

and so we live in a semidetached castle.

0:44:010:44:06

SIMON LAUGHS

0:44:060:44:07

-But anyway, let's go on to the library.

-Sure, that'll be lovely.

0:44:070:44:11

Oh, this is gorgeous.

0:44:120:44:14

And for such a large room it does feel very comfortable actually.

0:44:150:44:19

-Cosy.

-It is cosy and I think books are rather wonderful.

0:44:190:44:23

My mother's father,

0:44:230:44:27

his sister married Ned Lutyens,

0:44:270:44:29

the architect who built Delhi and all that.

0:44:290:44:32

And when he stayed here, he used to get upset

0:44:320:44:35

because the line of the chimney piece

0:44:350:44:37

didn't go down the centre of the alcove.

0:44:370:44:39

But I'm not sure it bothers me two hoots.

0:44:390:44:41

-He would get upset by that, would he?

-He did.

0:44:410:44:44

'The present day castle is Victorian

0:44:460:44:48

'but the ruins of the original plantation castle

0:44:480:44:51

'date back to the early 1600s.'

0:44:510:44:53

It feels very well fortified.

0:44:550:44:57

It feels like a castle built for conflict. Is that fair?

0:44:570:44:59

Well, I think it was definitely a fortified castle

0:44:590:45:02

but how much of it is original and how much of it is Victorianised?

0:45:020:45:07

The settlers built plantation castles to defend themselves

0:45:090:45:12

against rebellion by the Catholic population.

0:45:120:45:15

Not surprisingly, the locals objected to the colonisation of their land.

0:45:150:45:20

Crom Castle survived two Catholic sieges.

0:45:200:45:24

How respectful do you as a family need to be of history?

0:45:240:45:30

You still presumably have a sense of responsibility

0:45:300:45:33

-towards not upsetting people from any side?

-Yes.

0:45:330:45:39

Because I think there's a great feeling today

0:45:390:45:41

of reconciliation, whatever troubles they've had.

0:45:410:45:44

-And I honestly don't particularly want to stir it all up.

-No.

0:45:440:45:48

It's simple as that.

0:45:480:45:51

Lord Erne didn't want to dwell on the controversial history

0:45:510:45:54

that the estate is a part of.

0:45:540:45:57

But the seeds of division sowed by the Plantation of Ulster

0:45:570:46:00

eventually led to

0:46:000:46:02

the violent sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland

0:46:020:46:04

that became known as the Troubles.

0:46:040:46:06

It is incredible, the story of this place and the estate goes

0:46:070:46:12

right back to one of the most difficult periods of Irish history.

0:46:120:46:17

A time of plantation and occupation and division and suffering.

0:46:170:46:24

And where I'm heading to next

0:46:240:46:26

feels the consequences of those events to this very day.

0:46:260:46:30

70 miles north of Crom is Derry, or Londonderry,

0:46:330:46:37

a city of less than 100,000.

0:46:370:46:39

Originally a plantation city, the famous walls were built

0:46:400:46:43

to protect the English and Scottish Protestant settlers.

0:46:430:46:47

But eventually the Catholic population

0:46:490:46:51

outstripped the Protestants

0:46:510:46:53

and Derry become synonymous

0:46:530:46:55

with some of the worst of the Troubles.

0:46:550:46:57

It's astonishing to think there was virtual civil war

0:47:000:47:03

on the streets here within living memory.

0:47:030:47:05

Now, nearly 20 years on from the Good Friday peace agreement,

0:47:070:47:10

the city's been transformed.

0:47:100:47:12

A new Peace Bridge has been built across the River Foyle

0:47:130:47:16

and in 2013, Derry was made UK City of Culture.

0:47:160:47:20

A quiet Sunday morning and the only people who are out are cyclists

0:47:240:47:27

and joggers, the occasional car.

0:47:270:47:30

-Looks sleepy and perfectly normal, of course. Morning.

-Morning.

0:47:340:47:38

But you think what's happened here in the last couple of decades.

0:47:420:47:45

It is unbe-bloody-lievable what they've achieved.

0:47:470:47:51

To go from full-on armed conflict to relative normality and peace.

0:47:530:48:00

It's a magnificent thing,

0:48:030:48:04

it's a shining example to the rest of the world.

0:48:040:48:08

And this is the People's Gallery.

0:48:080:48:10

The People's Gallery is a series of huge murals

0:48:150:48:18

painted in a Catholic area of Derry known as the Bogside.

0:48:180:48:21

This was the epicentre of the Troubles here.

0:48:230:48:26

This is where the Bloody Sunday massacre happened, scores died here.

0:48:260:48:30

Today, the murals have become a tourist attraction

0:48:340:48:36

and they're still regularly restored by the original artists.

0:48:360:48:40

I met up with one of them, Tom Kelly.

0:48:430:48:45

It's such a powerful image.

0:48:470:48:50

This is for the anniversary of the Battle of the Bogside

0:48:500:48:54

which was a three day battle

0:48:540:48:57

that pretty much brought us to the brink of civil war here,

0:48:570:49:00

you know?

0:49:000:49:02

It's actually a 12-year-old kid wearing a Second World War gas mask.

0:49:020:49:06

And he has a petrol bomb or a Molotov cocktail,

0:49:060:49:09

whatever you want to call it.

0:49:090:49:11

But the police force at this time were well-trained,

0:49:110:49:14

supported by the British government.

0:49:140:49:18

The people were on the streets looking for very basic human rights

0:49:180:49:22

and civil rights. It was civil rights marches that we had

0:49:220:49:25

right at the beginning of this conflict.

0:49:250:49:28

Your right to a home for your family,

0:49:280:49:31

a right to a job.

0:49:310:49:32

The murals commemorate Catholic victims of the Troubles

0:49:350:49:38

but of course Protestants and many others also lost their lives here

0:49:380:49:42

in a conflict characterised by violence and suffering on all sides.

0:49:420:49:46

Coming here as an outsider for me,

0:49:480:49:50

I've never been anywhere in the world where...

0:49:500:49:53

intense situations like this

0:49:530:49:56

-are so vividly portrayed on an individual level.

-Yeah.

0:49:560:50:00

I mean, it feels to me like the community here,

0:50:000:50:02

you really do remember every single name,

0:50:020:50:06

every single soul that was lost and suffered.

0:50:060:50:10

And that in and of itself is a pretty extraordinary thing.

0:50:100:50:14

When you're experiencing discrimination and injustice

0:50:140:50:18

and brutality on a day to day basis,

0:50:180:50:21

then you don't forget.

0:50:210:50:23

I mean, they can talk all they want about reconciliation

0:50:230:50:26

and peace bridges and how things are wonderful but, you know,

0:50:260:50:29

the real root is still there.

0:50:290:50:32

What we tried to do as the Bogside artists is to paint it

0:50:330:50:36

so that we can look at it

0:50:360:50:39

and not sweep it under the carpet

0:50:390:50:40

as the tourist board and the authorities would like to do.

0:50:400:50:43

And that's all that the Bogside artists have created -

0:50:430:50:47

we've created a human document that tells a story.

0:50:470:50:50

It's one side of the story.

0:50:540:50:55

But it's not surprising that Tom and many other locals

0:50:550:50:58

don't want to forget what happened here.

0:50:580:51:01

A huge number of people in Northern Ireland

0:51:010:51:03

are now working to heal the wounds of history.

0:51:030:51:07

In Derry or Londonderry, campaigners believe

0:51:070:51:09

the arts can bring Catholics and Protestants together

0:51:090:51:12

and help the whole community to move on from the past.

0:51:120:51:15

In the early 1990s, Derry had no public theatre.

0:51:160:51:19

But with a grant of just £300,

0:51:190:51:21

one woman took it upon herself to start one

0:51:210:51:23

in order to try and build bridges between different communities.

0:51:230:51:27

-Pauline.

-Hiya.

-Sorry to interrupt.

0:51:320:51:34

Pauline Ross is the inspiring founder of the Derry Playhouse.

0:51:340:51:38

-Sorry, what's going on here?

-This is a youth theatre

0:51:380:51:41

from our only integrated secondary college in the whole north-west.

0:51:410:51:46

Steve is the theatre director and their teacher

0:51:460:51:49

and these are all young students, crazy about theatre.

0:51:490:51:51

-And we have one integrated primary school.

-Meaning, in simple terms?

0:51:510:51:56

-95%...

-Catholic and Protestant.

0:51:560:51:58

95% of our education system is segregated

0:51:580:52:01

and I think it is something...

0:52:010:52:03

96% of our social housing is segregated.

0:52:030:52:06

-Segregated.

-What does that make for?

0:52:060:52:07

-Well, it means ghettoised, basically, doesn't it?

-Yes.

-Goodness.

0:52:070:52:12

-Would you like to make some of them?

-Well, I would, really, yes.

0:52:120:52:16

Can I ask, when you hear, you know, older folk of my age and up,

0:52:160:52:21

talking about the past and the Troubles,

0:52:210:52:25

does it sound to you like it's from your...

0:52:250:52:29

from your world or does it sound as though they're talking about,

0:52:290:52:32

like almost from another planet, but certainly another country?

0:52:320:52:36

We have, like, the odd bomb scare or someone gets shot

0:52:360:52:39

or someone had a bomb left under their car.

0:52:390:52:41

Like, just this week or last week,

0:52:410:52:44

somebody had a... A police officer had a bomb under their car.

0:52:440:52:48

That's not so far from here.

0:52:490:52:51

So, you have lots of that.

0:52:510:52:52

But I think our generation,

0:52:520:52:55

we hear about it but we just want to move forward.

0:52:550:52:57

We just want to live in the present and look towards the future.

0:52:570:53:01

I collaborate with a school that is an all girl's school.

0:53:010:53:06

We would be walking the walls and then she would tell me,

0:53:060:53:10

"Oh, I can't go there, I can't go there with my uniform on."

0:53:100:53:13

Because that would be a predominantly Protestant area

0:53:130:53:18

and her uniform signifies her as a Catholic.

0:53:180:53:22

First question you always get asked is, "Where do you live?"

0:53:220:53:25

-And that defines you?

-Yes, it's automatically assumed.

0:53:250:53:28

"Oh, you live there and you're in this religion." It's just not right.

0:53:280:53:32

It doesn't sound like it happens in north-west Europe

0:53:320:53:36

in the 21st-century, but it's very much still the reality, isn't it?

0:53:360:53:40

But we sustained here a 35 year conflict and from 1998...

0:53:400:53:44

It's not going to finish overnight, is it?

0:53:440:53:48

No, I think you eloquently put it that there's a residue,

0:53:480:53:52

there's a legacy.

0:53:520:53:53

We don't want to get stuck in the past,

0:53:530:53:55

we don't want to dwell on it,

0:53:550:53:56

but we need to learn the lessons from it.

0:53:560:53:58

Because these bright, young, talented people

0:53:580:54:02

need a better future. A shared future.

0:54:020:54:05

The ongoing segregation of schools in Northern Ireland

0:54:060:54:09

was the single biggest shock to me.

0:54:090:54:12

To an outsider, it is disappointing and depressing.

0:54:120:54:15

Pauline took me to see another project on the outskirts of the city.

0:54:170:54:21

Oh, goodness, look!

0:54:210:54:22

-What is going on? Hello.

-Pleased to meet you.

-Simon Reeve.

0:54:260:54:29

-Hi, Simon, pleased to meet you.

-Elaine, lovely to meet you.

0:54:290:54:31

Elaine Ford coordinates the Street Talk Project

0:54:310:54:34

close to the Protestant Tullyalley housing estate.

0:54:340:54:37

One of its aims

0:54:370:54:38

is to bring youngsters from different communities together.

0:54:380:54:42

So, these kids, the majority of them here, are from Tullyalley,

0:54:420:54:45

which is a Protestant community.

0:54:450:54:46

There's only one or two from the Catholic community.

0:54:460:54:49

There's meant to be more.

0:54:490:54:50

But they have only started building a bridge together

0:54:500:54:54

in the last few months.

0:54:540:54:55

This time last year,

0:54:550:54:57

the Catholic young people and the Protestant young people

0:54:570:54:59

-wouldn't have engaged with each other.

-So, really...

0:54:590:55:02

Those young people would've been involved in rioting

0:55:020:55:05

and fighting on what we call the interface here.

0:55:050:55:07

Does it feel weird to you that so little is mixed

0:55:090:55:12

or is it just life? Is that just normal?

0:55:120:55:16

-It doesn't feel any different.

-It's the way we're brought up.

0:55:160:55:18

It doesn't feel that different,

0:55:180:55:20

because there's been a gap for so long.

0:55:200:55:22

You haven't met people from the other community outside the project?

0:55:220:55:26

No, not really, no.

0:55:260:55:28

Billions of pounds have been paid to support the peace process.

0:55:290:55:33

People agreed to stop fighting, but there are still real divisions.

0:55:330:55:37

History runs deep here.

0:55:370:55:39

Real reconciliation will take generations.

0:55:390:55:41

Goodness me.

0:55:430:55:45

I mean, it is astonishing just how much segregation there still is,

0:55:450:55:51

in the North.

0:55:510:55:52

Pretty shocking for an outsider.

0:55:520:55:55

Perhaps inevitable for a lot of the people who live here,

0:55:550:55:59

but it has to change

0:55:590:56:00

and this sort of project has got to be the way forward.

0:56:000:56:04

I'm getting close to the end

0:56:110:56:12

of this first leg of my journey around Ireland.

0:56:120:56:15

But I'm now just driving up into the Inishowen peninsula

0:56:150:56:20

which, by all accounts, is completely spectacular.

0:56:200:56:23

It's only about 30 miles from the city of Derry to Malin Head,

0:56:290:56:33

the island of Ireland's most northerly point.

0:56:330:56:36

I crossed the border back into the Republic to get there.

0:56:380:56:41

Malin Head.

0:56:460:56:47

I've heard that name mentioned

0:56:500:56:51

so many times on The Shipping Forecast

0:56:510:56:55

and I've always thought it must be ludicrously remote and bleak.

0:56:550:57:01

And you come here,

0:57:010:57:02

and you find it is stunning.

0:57:020:57:06

It is so beautiful here.

0:57:280:57:30

I'm just standing here smiling to myself.

0:57:300:57:33

Look at it.

0:57:330:57:34

I've come from the far south of this island,

0:57:360:57:39

all the way here to the very far north.

0:57:390:57:42

I've loved every moment and every mile of the journey so far

0:57:420:57:46

and it's taught me so much about an Ireland that I really didn't know.

0:57:460:57:51

I've learnt a lot about the history and the culture.

0:57:510:57:54

Also the faith and the belief of people here, as well.

0:57:540:57:57

I'm really looking forward to the next leg of the journey,

0:57:570:58:00

which is going to take me down the stunning east coast of Ireland.

0:58:000:58:04

I arrive in Belfast, Northern Ireland's capital city,

0:58:060:58:09

on one of the most controversial weekends of the year.

0:58:090:58:12

My God. Bottles are being chucked. Hoods are coming up.

0:58:130:58:16

We need to move back out the way.

0:58:160:58:18

And as I travel south through the Republic of Ireland,

0:58:190:58:22

I hear a surprising theory that turns history on its head.

0:58:220:58:25

You are saying that Cromwell was framed?

0:58:250:58:28

I'm exactly saying that and I know who framed him.

0:58:280:58:31

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0:58:330:58:34

you can further explore Ireland's rich history and culture.

0:58:340:58:38

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