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On the surface, Britain's 2.7 million Muslims are united in faith. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:35 | |
But behind closed doors in Muslim homes across the country... | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
Damson jam and cream. Lovely. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
..there's a struggle to define what makes a good Muslim. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
Muslims judge each other too much. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
We kind of hold each other to these impossible standards, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
and it's not fair and it's not kind. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
I want the foundations of Islam laid out | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
so that Muslims will be happy to say, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
"I am a fundamentalist Muslim." | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
This religion is betrayed by the whole world, and especially | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
by Muslims, because they are not applying it properly. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
Now ten Muslims from across Britain | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
will live under one roof for ten days... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
I've never heard so much emphasis on Heaven and Hell. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Don't tell me what I can talk about, go start with someone else. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
Can we ten people come together and understand each other? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
..to work out who embodies the spirit of Islam... | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
We have huge amounts of racism and anti-blackness | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
-in our communities, yes or no? -I agree. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
We're so intellectually dishonest, we really struggle with looking | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
at our own flaws and working on them. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
..what being a Muslim really means... | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
When I say "Allahu Akbar", | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
those are the best minutes of my life. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
-Another hug. -HE LAUGHS | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
..and how that fits with modern Britain. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Muslims need to integrate more for their own sake, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
and that's an Islamic teaching. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
You must be where you are. Fully. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
-I'm a Muslim, in case you didn't know. -Are you? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
-I'm part of the EDL... -Oh, really? Give me a hug, then. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
I get why he was in Belmarsh. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
The city of York, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
founded by Romans, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
raided by Vikings, and rebuilt by William the Conqueror. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:36 | |
Today, it's home to about 200,000 mainly white Britons, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
a population that's about to increase by ten. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
These Muslims, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
Shia and Sunni, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
Arab and Asian... | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Pakistani dress. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
..African and European. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
We need in this time to rediscover how to be human beings, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
because we're losing it. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
..have come together from across Britain to spend the next ten days | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
living in one house, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
to work out what being part of the Muslim community really means. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
I'm scared that I'm going to walk in | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
and Mr Sharia Law | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
is going to see the hair and the heels, and attack. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
First to arrive is 27-year-old Mehreen, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
a schoolteacher from north London. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
Do you want your teabag in? | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Yes, please. You know my style. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Growing up, I wasn't the most attractive child. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
I had a very, very big mono-brow | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
and a moustache... | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
and a beard. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
In year 10, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
I was allowed to remove my moustache and get my eyebrows done. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
And I actually looked pretty. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
A lot of Muslim people have a really warped view. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
They think that I'm the Muslim girl gone bad. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
But my religion is a very, very, very important part to me. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
I pray every single day. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
I'm your average, normal British Muslim person. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
They're in the majority, but our voice is the least heard. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
OK. And wait. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
What I am a little bit nervous about, so to speak, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
is the free mixing, obviously between males and females. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Muhammad said that the best place | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
for the woman is at the back row | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
and the best place for the man is at the front row. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Abdul Haq is a former professional boxer. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Born Anthony Small and brought up in a Christian household, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:55 | |
he converted to Islam 11 years ago. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
When it's lost, it means hellfire. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
He makes videos promoting his version of the faith | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and posts them online. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
Allah can command women to cover. No apologies. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
We must take heed of the separation between males and females, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
so I've got the evidence with me in paper form | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
to give to the ten members of the house. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Hi. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
It's nice to meet you. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Nice to meet you, too. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:23 | |
-What's your name, sorry? -Abdul Haq. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Abdul Haq. I'm Mehreen. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
-Nice to meet you, Mehreen. How are you? -Like a submarine. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
I think I'll give you this to read, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
while you're sat there waiting, shall I? | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
Ah, thank you. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
-Thank you very much. -No problems. Alhamdulillah. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
Abdul Haq's evidence is a series of quotes | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
he's taken from the Hadith, the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
He's interpreted these to mean that unrelated men and women | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
should not mix. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
Do you have any other handouts? | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
-I have upstairs, just generally, but not at the moment... -OK. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
-So the free-mixing one, you thought was the most important? -Yeah. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Obviously there's other issues that could arise, but from my | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
point of view, the free mixing was something that affects all of us... | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
-OK. -..so I decided to address it first of all... -OK. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
And do you hand these out at work? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
-I'm self-employed, so... -Oh, right. -I just work for... | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-What do you do? -I'm an entrepreneur. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Oh, right. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Lovely. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:30 | |
I mean, sometimes people who are religious can be quite zealous. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
Their way is the only way and is the right way, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
and if you're not a part of that, you're the wrong way. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
In fact, that's one of the very reasons I don't like to go | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
into the religion, because it's too black and white, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
and life is full of many shades. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Obviously after establishing the evidence, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
guidance comes from Allah... | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
-Hey. -Hello. -Hello. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
-Nice to meet you. -You too. What's your name? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-Hi, Naila. -Naila, good to meet you. -Yeah, you too. -I'm Mehreen. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-Hiya. -You smell lovely. -Oh, thanks. -Hi. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-Hello. -As-salaam-alaikum. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
Wa-alaikum-salaam. How are you doing? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-I won't shake hands, but I'll give you that leaflet. -Thank you. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
-OK. -Abdul Haq. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
-Abdul Haq. Naila. -OK. -Hiya. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
OK... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
Abdul Haq also believes | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
he should avoid making eye contact with women. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
I'll sit somewhere more comfortable, I think. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
-Yeah, I didn't really like the stools. -Yeah. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-Have you read that? -Yeah. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Yeah... | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, too. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
-I'm Ferhan. -Ferhan? Naila. -Naila? | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-Hello. -I'm Mehreen, like a submarine. -Mehreen. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
I'm coming out of a | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
sort of a stage in my life where I'm looking to settle down, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
have a family and I'm thinking, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I wonder if there's a place for me in Islam. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Sorry, can I... Not to be rude, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
I've given it to everyone so far, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
so I thought I'd give it to you just to be polite. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
As-salaam-alaikum. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
I hope it's nothing rude. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:10 | 0:08:11 | |
How are you doing? Are you OK? I've just got this leaflet here. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
I am so old, I am old enough to be his mother. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
When the world is falling apart and people are being killed | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
and fleeing for their lives, this is so pathetic. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
As the other Muslims arrive... | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
-Hello. -Would you like a chair? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
..and start to mix freely, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
Abdul Haq separates himself from the group. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
-Hi. -What's your name? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-Baraa. -Where is this name from? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-What do you think? -I think Syria. -Yes. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
-Hi, everyone. -ALL: Hello. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
-As-salaam-alaikum. -Wa-alaikum-salaam. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
-My name is Humaira. -What's up? -Hello. Ferhan. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
-Nabil. -Evidence against free mixing. That's why I'm sat over there. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
It's all well and good praying five times a day and fasting, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
but it's also important to make sure that your neighbours love you, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
to make sure that you put a smile on people's faces. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
We are the only religion on Earth that believes that | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
a smile is an act of charity. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
31-year-old British Nigerian Nabil lives in Croydon and is | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
a stand-up comedian. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
It is a tough time to be English. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
Obviously, we just got booted out of the Euros by Iceland, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
voted out of Europe by people who shop at Iceland. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
Recently, I have also started an organisation providing support | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
and shelter for vulnerable homeless men. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
They're actually part of the same principle that I live my life by. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
If you see something that's wrong, you should change it with your hands | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
and if you can't change it with your hands you should speak about it, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
and if you can do neither then feel the anger in your heart. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
These are Hadith from the Prophet Muhammad. As-salaam-alaikum. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
You guys have been great. As-salaam-alaikum. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
The group has been together for less than an hour... | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Where does it say in the Koran that mixing is not allowed? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
-Let me explain. -It's a simple question. Does it exist, or not? | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
We are talking about ABC Islam here. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
..and already they are queueing up to challenge Abdul Haq. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
I'll be honest, I have never seen anything like it. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
I've had someone who doesn't want to shake your hand. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
I've never had something where you are physically separating yourself, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
and you think that is a more appropriate distance | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
than perhaps here or there. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Nobody has assigned you in the group | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
to decide what the way of God is. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
I have established the evidence. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
For me, I am free in front of Allah. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Why did you choose to be here? Why did you choose to be here... | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
-Let me finish. -..with five other women, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
then bring us this and say we can't mix, we can't do this and that? | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
To me, that's questionable. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
I am in two minds, right, because he says no free mixing. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
As far as I'm concerned, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
-as long as you're in this house, you're still free mixing. -Exactly. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
However, we are taught, let there be a group | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
from among you who go out | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
and preach the haq. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Now, if that's his expression of truth, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
then don't criticise him and tell him he's disrespecting you. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
You are disrespecting him. He didn't pull you to sit down with him. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
He sat down over there. So compromise. He is still talking. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Abdul Haq, what would be comfortable for you in the house? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
-How do you see it working? -There are two tables here. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
So why don't the sisters on that side, the brothers on this side? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
I don't want to do that. No way. I'm not going to do that. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
I think it is highly arrogant of you to want things just what | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
-makes you happy. -You asked my opinion, I've given you my reply. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
If you're all free mixing in here, I'll go out in the garden. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Can I just hug you? Because everybody's being really hard. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
I am tough skinned. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
I think he's just a bit lost. All the quotations... | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
Because, practically, what are we supposed to do? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Am I supposed to cook and send him food and he eats somewhere else? | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
I'm not doing that. There has to be some level of integration. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Between me and you, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
this isn't even like a boy-man thing but they have a point. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
You knew there was going to be girls here. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
This is my first point... | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
Before anything else, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
decisions need to be made about where everyone will be sleeping. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
It would be nice if brothers could be on one floor | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
and sisters on another floor. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:11 | |
-I think that's a great idea... -She agrees with me. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
If it's possible with the way the house is set up. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-Alhamdulillah. -That would be great. -We are not hardcore. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
I have got your bag. Put my mind at rest. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
We need to hurry so we can choose. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
-She is adamant she wants this room here. -It is so cool. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
I think what she'd really like is to share a room with you. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
Astaghfirullah. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
I have no time for religion, I need a way of life. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
To be a Muslim means simply to take on certain practices which | 0:12:43 | 0:12:49 | |
give your life a kind of support. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
It is like tomatoes on a trellis. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
Instead of flopping around on the ground, you're held up. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-I call it the skeleton. -You don't want to share a room with me? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
No, no, no. It's just that the sisters are quite... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
-They are fine, and we can have very interesting conversations. -OK. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
It is not a shell, Muslims turn it into a shell, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
which is just...they become like a tortoise. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Ideally, there would have been complete separate floors. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
It's funny how that happens to converts in particular. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
Yes, because they become overzealous. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
One, two... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
I am down to collect people and then everyone can... | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Yes, I just want to do as I am going to do. Two minutes. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
-Yeah. -No pressure. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
HE PRAYS | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
Ferhan is sharing with Mani. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
He is practising the azan, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
the call to announce each of the five daily prayers. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
-Perfect. Amazing. -Was it OK? -No, it was great. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
-It's quite emotional, actually. -Let's have that as our azan. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
-You are perfect for it. -I've never done it before. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
You are so good at it. You must have done that growing up? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
No, I haven't, not the azan part. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
You did it really well and you memorised it. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
-You've memorised it so well. Well done. -Another hug. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
I think there's going to be lots of hugs here. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
I'm a very huggable person. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
-Absolutely. I think that is great. -Exactly. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Are we allowed to? Are you sure? | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Mani is 32 and lives with his mum in Manchester. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
He recently got married in Pakistan. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
My mum, my nana and my sister got together and thought, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
"We'll sort him out." I got a phone call, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
"You're getting married, by the way." "OK, really? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
"Thank you. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
"Boy or a girl?" | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
I could get a lot of style tips off you. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Of course. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
'She is a cousin of mine so even if the marriage doesn't work, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
'you'll still related, right?' | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
You can still tag each other on Facebook. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
His wife is waiting to receive her visa | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
before she can join him in England. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Is a difficult having a wife but not having her around? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
The time I'm spending now talking to her over the phone, I think | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
your husband-and-wife relation should be a friendship anyway. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
So, for that reason, I think it's worked out better. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
-Shall I do it from here? -From this floor here. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Where everyone else can hear it. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
I feel a bit special now because | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
I'm going to obviously speak to him and I'm ready. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
-Are you going to join the prayer? -No. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Because I don't pray traditionally like that. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Guys, Mani is going to do our azan. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
I write letters to God at night where I share what I want to share. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
I've got my own ways. I think there is space for everyone to find that. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
-Kaaba is this way, right? -The Kaaba is that way, I believe. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
This way, wasn't it? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
First, they need to work out the correct direction for prayer. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
-I think it was this way. -OK. -So, I'll do it... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Towards the Kaaba, Islam's holiest site in the city of Mecca. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
HE RECITES | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
Mine's nicer. I'm joking. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
What does being a Muslim mean to you? | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
To be a Muslim is someone who submits to God. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
We believe in one God, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
we worship one God | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
and, by extension, we fear one God. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
Praying together...in my school, when we pray together, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:51 | |
for me, it gives you a really, really magical feeling. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
I can't explain it, but it's a moment of peace. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
As I've got older, I feel like you need that time to get away | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
from the world and the stresses, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
so, for me, now, it's more a form of meditation more than anything else. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Right, I am joining. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
Having a connection with God, I feel spiritual when I do it and | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
sometimes, I feel like moved emotionally by it. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
The word Muslim in Arabic comes from salam, Islam, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
peace, love and compassion. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
That's the way I see it and this is the way I think | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
I should live my life. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-NEWS REPORT: -This was not a hi-tech attack, but the brutality | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
and the banality of the method make it all the more terrifying. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
The previous night, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
a man drove a truck through a crowd of people in Nice killing 86. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
So-called Islamic State said it was a response to their call to action. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
I am angry with the people that did it. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
I'm angry with people that told them it was a good idea | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
but I am also angry with the people who will now victimise me for it, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
angry with the people who think I need to explain those | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
people's actions, just angry all the way through. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
-NEWS REPORT: -The vehicle accelerated right into the middle of the crowd. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
We are the face of terrorism for the world at large. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
But we also see what they're doing in the West, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
how they are treating countries and what they've done in the past | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
and that is not sexy to talk about. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
'The police surrounded the car and he kept shooting him...' | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
It's the same cycle that happens again and again and again. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
'Bodies were falling like skittles...' | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
Something is done in the name of Islam, Muslims are blamed, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
there are reprisals attacks. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
These reprisal attacks and Islamophobia in general is not | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
dealt with by our law enforcement and by government. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
'Another saw parents throwing their children over fences...' | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
That catalyses radicalisation because people feel like they | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
aren't being heard, and when people feel like they're not being heard, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
that leads to more violence. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
So I am heartbroken... | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
..because they are human beings. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
It doesn't matter what religion they are, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
they are just human beings going about their business. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
They're children. And we care about them. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
We care about them. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
And I think that the world at large does not see that. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
They go, we're Muslims so we're cut off, and they tarnish everybody | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
with the same brush and they decide | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
that we're all bad, that we're heartless. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
We're all affected by this. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
I felt the pain for the Muslims who have been killed, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
-that's what I felt. -But why must we separate? | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
You don't think that Muslims lives are worth crying more tears, do you, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
than non-Muslims? You just think they don't get enough recognition. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-Which we agree too. -Of course, every life is sacred, but as a Muslim... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-Just stop there! -Let him answer. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Muhammad, peace and blessings upon him, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
said that Islam is superior and will never be surpassed. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Our communities are disgusting in many ways, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
we have a huge amount of racism | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
-and anti-blackness in our communities. Yes or no? -I agree. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
We have huge issues with domestic violence | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
-and sexism in our communities, yes or no? -I'm not aware of it. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
So on what most basis are we best nation at the moment? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Exactly, we are still the best nation because we believe in Allah. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
That's not enough me. I think there is more to it. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
I simply cannot say, because I believe in a God, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
that I am morally superior because of that. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
-NAILA: -I'm not waiting for the hellfire, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
I want to live a decent life here and now. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
Allah said he created us to worship him, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
-not to just live a fun life. -You deserve to eat too. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-I'm going to come... -I'll give you a quote, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
"For every human deserves to eat." | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
-Come on. -Why do you think people are responding to you in this way? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
People have their own opinions about what Islam is. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
So, when they hear something contrary to this, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
it's like, "You're telling me that what my father told me, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
"what my grandfather told me | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
"and my mosque teacher told me is not true?" | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
Does anyone know whether vinegar is? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
If people leave the room because I'm speaking from the divine text | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
and it doesn't sit with their own desires, then I am happy. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-I have got one. -Thank you. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
As the Hadith goes, don't harm yourself and don't harm others. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
I've put it in the fridge. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Abdul Haq, a real cutie. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
He's one of those Muslims, it seems like, who are quite | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
bogged down by the literal meaning of words and quotations. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Do you think you are not even allowed to try it? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
Allah says, do they not know I will question him about everything? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
He comes, says a statement, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
quotes a verse or a Hadith and thinks it is right. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
Islam has got nothing against culture, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
as long as the culture doesn't disagree with Islam. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
Scholarship is very poisonous and very dangerous medicine, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
because it can give you the illusion of knowledge. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
The great quality of the Muslim should be humility. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
He was sitting by himself, I didn't want him to be lonely. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Earlier, he was about four metres away, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
now you're a little bit closer, so... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
It's the exact same difference, brother. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
Did you bring your ruler to check? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
How many metres does it become free mixing? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Allahu Alim. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
The aspect of segregation is something that should be distinct. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
-MEHREEN: -Saying that, he smiles at me when he looks at me. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
I wonder if he is married. I didn't ask. I should ask that. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
Shoulder chin. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
-Morning. -You look so good. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
Mehreen has received a religious leaflet. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
-Who gave you that? -Abdul Haq. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
Abdul Haq has given me a leaflet on how to wear the jilbaab correctly, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:24 | |
and it says it's based on clear-cut evidences | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
and not open to interpretation. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
The jilbaab is a floor-length gown that loosely covers | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
the whole body. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
-ABDUL HAQ: -A Muslim woman should cover her hair. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
She should dress modestly, not showing all of her ornaments, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
the shape of her body, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
the best way to say is obviously the shape of her body. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
Tear it up and fling it in the bin. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
-Round one, fight. -Abdul Haq. You give me space to talk. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
Why are you sitting here drinking your water and not helping us | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
in the kitchen? It is serving the people is a higher level. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
This is not representing Islam. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:04 | |
I am older than you, you should listen to me. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-I'm leaving this conversation. -You don't work, you sit and dictate. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
-What you're doing is not Islam. -You sit and dictate. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
You are giving people the impression that's all right. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Your actions are very rude and abrupt and I'm going to leave. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
You're talking about yourself when you say that. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
You're talking about yourself. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
To come in and insult us by doing this at us when you're only... | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
You were in diapers when I said Shahadah, probably. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
He hadn't even become a Muslim probably. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
It gets too much, and he's done that ever since he got here. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
Why doesn't he, instead of doing all that, go in the sink and clean up, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
clean up all this mess here which he was party to create? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
It gives a bad impression of Islam, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
the very impression that is so prevalent, that this is what men do. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
They go, "Vrh-vrh-vrh!" | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
and the women have to wear this black hideous thing | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
and that's the Sunnah. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
I'd much prefer if he was just a complete arsehole | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
and someone who was making me angry and making me want to fight, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
but because throughout the first day | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
I probably dealt with him the calmest and the nicest, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
and I was the most forgiving - | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
I gave you water, I gave you your food | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
and I make sure I lowered my gaze while I handed you your food, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
and then that whole time, you've been sitting there thinking, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
"I've got to give her this leaflet, I've got to give her this leaflet." | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
That's made me feel let down. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
I was really going out of my way to care for him. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Is it more important to look like a Muslim or feel like a Muslim? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
My mother is the most pious person I have ever come across. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:38 | |
She doesn't wear a hijab. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
-And they think that's who a Muslim woman is. -Yeah. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Not stylish women, like us. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:44 | |
No, Muslim women aren't allowed to be stylish. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
At 16 you had to cover your legs. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
We wore a pyjama-legging-type thing. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
You can't drink, you can't go out with boys - | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
and if you went out with a boy, that would make you a prostitute. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
I wear it predominantly as an act of worship. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
Your hijab is about haya - | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
remembering about modesty, in Islam, is for both men and women. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
What that looks like now is very different | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
to what would have been in 7th-century Arabia. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
All of the Muslims have come to the house | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
to show how they bring Islam into their daily lives. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
For one of them, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
this means overcoming one of the biggest cultural taboos of all. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
Growing up, I didn't particularly desire any relationship with a girl. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
What I desired was a relationship | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
with, you know, a nice boy. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Ferhan is from Glasgow, and now lives in London. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
I'm here with my bears. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
We have a group called Bearminton. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
Mostly it attracts guys that are bears, which is... | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
they have beards, they're big and hairy, and they like to have fun. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
My dad had mentioned that he wasn't fond of gay people at all. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
My mum struggled to understand what that meant for the future. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
My mum and dad do want to see me married, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
but it's hard to explain that that might not happen | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
in the traditional way. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
He's decided to tell the group he's gay... | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
while they're having breakfast. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
I am scared about people's opinions, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
and what they'll say. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
This is something you can't change. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
It's in your fitra. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
ALL CHATTER | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
Abdul, come and take a seat. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
I just have an announcement to make. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
It's something that, er, you may or may not have already picked up on. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
It's something I've sort of struggled with, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
and it's part of the reason I kind of felt ostracised from my culture, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
but now I'm realising I didn't have to feel | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
ostracised by my faith, necessarily. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
And it feels quite, erm, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
difficult to kind of share it with you right now, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
but you might already know, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
you might already have picked up on it. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
I mean, does anyone want to hazard a guess | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
as to what I might be talking about? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
You're gay. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:27:55 | 0:27:56 | |
Yeah. No, I am gay. Today, my friends are coming over. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
-They're a couple, a gay couple. -Mm. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
And I'm just looking forward to you meeting them all, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
and I hope you'd make them feel welcome. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
Can I just ask you, when you say you're gay, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
do you believe that, Islamically, you're allowed to be gay? | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
-Well, so, that's the thing, so... -No... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
..culturally, I've been ostracised for being gay, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
but now that I'm coming back into my faith, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
it's because I've realised | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
that actually being gay and being Muslim | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
are not mutually exclusive things. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
From my point of view, that takes you out the whole of Islam, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
cos that is so against the divine texts. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:29 | |
-This is how God designed me. -This is so clear... | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
It's written in my fitra, which is my nature. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
-Yeah, fair enough. -I've established the evidence, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
I've got nothing more to say. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
I'm not arguing. You... Lakum deenukum waliya deen - | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
to you is your religion and to me is my religion. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
Yeah, he... I haven't seen him that angry. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
No-one has a right to tell you that you're not a Muslim, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
because you're calling yourself a Muslim, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
and if they think you're doing something haram, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
I'm showing my hair, I'm sure THAT'S haram. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
I've been to a club, I'm sure THAT'S haram. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
So, am I not a Muslim either? | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
-Are you... Are you OK? -I... -Can I speak to you? Come on. -Yeah. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
I said, "Do you believe you are allowed, Islamically, to be gay?" | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
and he said yes. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:17 | |
What's Allah going to say to him on the Day of Judgment? | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Obviously we've always known. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
We've never discussed it, but it was kind of... | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
No. I'll tell you why I didn't know. The reason I didn't know | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
was because the first conversation I had with him | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
was that he was looking for a wife. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
You laugh! That's the... | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
I mean, that's the first conversation he had with me, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
is that he was looking for a wife. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
Nah, nah... | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
I mean... | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Bismillah. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
He told me he was looking for a wife, brother. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
What do you want me to do? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
He said, "I'm looking for a wife," innit? | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
Alhamdulillah. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
He might be the most outspoken, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
but Abdul Haq is not the only one in the group | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
struggling to accept Ferhan's claim that it's OK to be gay and Muslim. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:13 | |
Is being homosexual something biological, natural, genetic? | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
I should question it first. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
'Obviously I don't have a problem with Ferhan at all, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
'but, when asked, "Is it allowed in Islam to be gay?" ' | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
I wouldn't want him to say it is allowed in Islam YET, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
until we can make 100% proof of science - | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
if it was a scientific, biological thing or not. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
I remember Ferhan told us that he was raised with his mother | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
and three sisters, which is a female environment - | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
I can't say that it's 100% psychological, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
but this could be one of the reasons - and it was proven. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
I don't think that it's something | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
that we shouldn't be taking in consideration. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
Male homosexuality is much more of an issue than female one, actually. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:55 | |
Female homosexuality is... | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
They can't actually do it, physically, you know? | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Men, the penetrating capacity is with the man, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
and I feel that's why it's more of an issue. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
-Hello! -Hello! | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
-So good to see you! -OK! | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
In my view, the procreative fluid is flowing | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
towards the wrong organs, you know? | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Where Saba and Baraa take issue with Abdul Haq | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
is how he makes his argument. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
They way you're revealing your thoughts is very harmful for Islam. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
Stop, stop - by saying that homosexuality is not allowed | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
in Islam, I'm harming Islam?! | 0:31:31 | 0:31:32 | |
-Are you a qualified alim? -It doesn't take a qualified alim... -It does. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
-..to say that homosexuality isn't allowed. -It does. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
It takes a qualified alim to say that homosexuality isn't allowed? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
-No, it takes... -Do you think homosexuality is allowed in Islam? | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
No. Do you think it's allowed in Islam? | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
But that isn't the question. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:46 | |
What you do in private, whether it's drinking... | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
And he's come out in public... | 0:31:49 | 0:31:50 | |
So, you're just going to go whack, like that? | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
You mentioned about private, but he's come out in public... | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
-It's not the Islamic way. -I tell you what happens in life - | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
when people can't attack the message, they attack the messenger. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
The same thing happened to all the prophets. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
You are still guilty... | 0:32:03 | 0:32:04 | |
-Hi, everyone! -Hello, Ferhan, how are you? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
-I'm good. -Give me a hug, my friend. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
-ABDUL HAQ: -I'm not really comfortable | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
being around a homosexual. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
That's probably just my Afro-Caribbean background. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
So, how do you guys all know Ferhan? Like, how did you guys all meet? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
-We played rugby together. -Oh! -Yeah. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
-Played rugby for a gay team in London. -Ooh. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
-Gay inclusive, that's what... -Yeah. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Because they're not only gay people, a gay man playing, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
-but also straight men. Like, a few. -Yeah, a few. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
-NABIL: -It wasn't really an issue for me. You live and let live, no? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
But what do I know? I'm not a scholar or anything. That's just... | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
When in doubt, don't be a dick. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:38 | |
That's what I go to every single time. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
-Lovely. -Let's have a toast to our friendship... -Oh, lovely. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
Thank you for having us. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
Yeah, thank you for being so hospitable. Thanks. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-Thanks very much. -Cheers. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
A lot of people probably would have already guessed anyway, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
but to actually formally kind of say it, | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
it's quite a big step. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
It's not one that someone from my culture often does make. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
I think it's really, really important to be visible, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
otherwise you reach the state of denial | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
that sort of exists within my culture. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
If you leave that unchecked, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:16 | |
it can just lead to some really, really dark situations, I think. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
I think that the Muslim community drowns in shame. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
So, when I was growing up, I saw a lot of hypocrisy around me, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
a lot of two-faced behaviours, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
by the very people who were, you know, preaching Islam. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
There isn't the conversations to allow people to open up | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
and to live normal, healthy lives. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
They put on fronts. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
I think that that's the consequence | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
of that kind of repressed way of living. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
-FERHAN: -I mean, marriage is one of the most visual aspects | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
of that, I think, and that's why | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
being gay seems like it's an attack on faith, but it's not. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
Naila, are you a good Muslim? | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
Hah! I don't know what a good Muslim is. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
I don't really think about whether I'm a good Muslim or not. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
I'm a...a normal Muslim. I have my days. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
There have been moments where I've struggled with my faith, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
and I've questioned. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
According to how a good Muslim is defined, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
I would very much fall in the bad Muslim category. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
If you think there should be a greater emphasis on your inside... | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
..Is kind and considerate of all people... | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
..I think I'm doing a pretty decent job. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
..I fall into a good human being. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
The role of the Muslims living amongst non-Muslims | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
is one of spreading the message - the one of da'wah, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
calling and inviting people to embrace al-Islam. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
Abdul Haq has decided to perform da'wah - preaching Islam - | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
on the streets of York, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
and wants the rest of the house to help. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
That would be really fun - I like a dawat. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
Da'wah. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:19 | |
Oh, da'wah? Oh, I don't know... | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
-Dawat is when you throw a big dinner, I love those. -No, no, no. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
-Oh, it's different! Oh, right. -Da'wah is... -I got excited. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
It's invitation towards the Islamic side of things, if that makes sense. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
OK. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
-He's going to give us some lectures and Hadith, so... -OK, OK. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
OK, that'll be good. That'll give us some context. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
I find it incumbent upon myself to call people to embrace Islam | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
to save themselves from the hellfire, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
to accept God as the Creator, the one who gives life and takes. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
Here's the leaflets - a general call to al-Islam, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
which is Why Should I Bother Embracing Islam? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Obviously the problems in society | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
and the Islamic solution to those problems. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
What Sharia Law Is, that word that people are scared of, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
and the final one, What Is The Islamic State? | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
-Well, I'm out. -OK. -So, I won't be coming. I'll just tell you that. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
-No problem, that's fine. -I'm trying to separate these leaflets | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
into things I think have inaccuracies | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
-and things I think are just wrong. -OK. -So, I won't be coming with you. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
I won't be coming with you. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
There is so much humanity in Islam which, I'm sorry to say, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
is not coming through you. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
For that reason, I'm out. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
-MIMICS AL PACINO: -The people like you | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
need people like me, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
so you can point your fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
What film's that from? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:34 | |
Scarface! | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
The lessons we're taking from that film | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
is the man came to live the American Dream, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
but what was his end? Did he find happiness? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
In that same scene I mentioned, what's he saying? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
He said, "Is this what it is?" | 0:36:45 | 0:36:46 | |
I didn't make the sahabas just sahabas just for the sake of it. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
'And how many people are like that? | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
'Cos they reached the point in their life, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
'like Scarface, Al Pacino,' | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
"Is this it? What else is there?" | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
As a Muslim, we know this is not it. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
-MIMICS AL PACINO: -OK, you want to play rough? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
You want to go to war? I'll take you to war, man. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
Say hello to my little friend! | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
Yeah, if we just turn right, and then left... | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
# You say you want a revolution | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
# Well, you know | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
# We all want to change the world... # | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
What's the worst that can happen? | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
Oi, don't answer that! | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
Learn about Islam today, don't delay. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
Save yourself from the hellfire. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
Learn about Islam. We invite you to al-Islam. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Learn about Islam, we invite you to Islam. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
There you go, take it. Have a nice day, yeah? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
# ..But when you talk about destruction... # | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
I looked at just what's on the outside of the flyers. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
They all seem to have that whole "under an Islamic State", | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
and because I am not comfortable with the ideology, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
I think I might have to leave. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
Embrace Islam today, don't delay. Save yourself from... You sure? | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
As a Muslim, I reject human rights. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
-Human rights are letting you hand out that. -No... | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-FERHAN: -Adult shop! | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
Why don't you go in and ask them, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
"Can I have a halal vibrator, please?" | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
So, we look to the sharia and an Islamic State... | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
-Do you know what a bear is? -No. -You are one, my friend! | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
I hate to break it to you. You're a bear! | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
The one who commits fornication, they get the death sentence, also. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
Homosexuality is an abomination. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
I was born gay. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
-I love hugs. -I can tell you do! | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
-It's the best form of saying something without saying it. -Totes. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
Islam is the prevention for that. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
Learn about Islam, we invite you to Islam. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
The call to Islam is here. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
Is it OK, in your religion, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
for me to maybe wear my top up here, like this? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
Maybe like that? | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Learn about Islam, we invite you to Islam. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
Is that OK? | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
If I walked around the streets like that? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
I will not look you in the eye. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
I feel you're treating me less than a man. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
I have looked at you, in fact, but not too much. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
Oh, it's good to see some positivity. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
It's just about the way, man. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
Learn about Islam, we invite you to Islam. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
You sure? No probs. Have a nice day, anyway. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
-ZOHRA: -I think all of those leaflets were talking rubbish. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
They were factually incorrect, and they were rubbish. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
I can't even smile about it. They were just rubbish. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
We invite you to Islam, the call to Islam is here. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
Learn about Islam today. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
-HUMAIRA: -I would not trust the sources of Abdul's information | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
in the slightest. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:38 | |
At best, it's coming from people who are incredibly misinformed... | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
Learn about Islam, we invite you to Islam. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
..and at worst, it's coming from people who have, you know, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
very malicious intentions and are violent people. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
Learn about Islam, we invite you to Islam. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
No probs, have a nice day. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
If you imagine you are Abdul, and you have this ideology, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
and this ideology is saving you, it will save your life. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
There's a challenge to that | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
that means that actually maybe you have a doubt about that - | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
you lose a lot, psychologically, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
and so I don't know what's underneath that, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
I'm not going to claim to know him at all, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
but I can see why he's holding on to it really, really strongly. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
Tell us about where you grew up. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
What was it like when you were growing up? | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
Growing up, I had something called little man syndrome - | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
especially with the name Anthony Small! | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
I went to secondary school in the same area | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
where Stephen Lawrence was murdered. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
We were being chased after school by members of the National Front. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
It must've been Nabil tying this one up, innit?! | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
'A close friend of mine presented a book to me | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
'called An Illustrated Guide To al-Islam.' | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
When I embraced Islam, it felt like I had the ultimate purpose to life. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
-You think today was good? -Yeah, masha'Allah. Very good day. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
-How did you feel about it? -It was good. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:47 | |
'Muhammad said, "The peak of our religion | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
' "is to love and hate for the sake of God." ' | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
I know of an individual who was killed in Pakistan. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
Another individual who was killed in Syria | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
by an American drone. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
It brought happiness to my heart, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
because, Islamically, the one who's killed for his belief system | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
is considered a martyr. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
Abdul Haq's views have brought him to the attention | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
of the British security services. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
In 2014, the Home Office confiscated his passport. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
He obtained a false one. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:27 | |
Why did you forge your passport? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
Because it was incumbent upon me to leave the country. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
-Why? -For personal reasons. Someone in my... | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
One of my family members was in a really bad situation. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
The police didn't believe him. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
He was accused of trying to join so-called Islamic State in Syria. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
I spent nine months inside of Belmarsh on remand. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
I stood trial at the Old Bailey, | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
and I was found not guilty, and I left from the Old Bailey... | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
through the front door. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
In a black cab. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Would you go to Syria today if you had your passport? | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
I would go to Syria. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
I have no leaflets, I have no evidence, but I guarantee you | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
a good time. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
Naila has planned a night out. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
For light relief, to have a laugh, we are going to karaoke tonight. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:28 | |
Oh, my God! So good. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
Are you going to come? | 0:42:31 | 0:42:32 | |
It's not necessarily my thing but I'm not against it either. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
Are you scared to have fun with us? | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
You're a married man and you're going to look like you're | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
having too much fun. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
-For me, it's not... -It's...fun. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:47 | |
I wouldn't want my wife out with guys | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
that aren't from our family doing that. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
And I wouldn't do that either. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
So, tonight, guys, we're going out to do karaoke. | 0:42:54 | 0:43:00 | |
Thank you so much, really. Just in time. You're a star, man. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
Muhammad said that music is the handiwork of the Shay'taan, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
and just to go out | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
for the sake of entertainment and dancing obviously | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
is not something that I would agree with at all. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
-You are more than welcome. -Cheers. No problems. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
I'm of the opinion that music is forbidden, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
at least the type of music that you would get in a pub. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
But I think it's important for me to go so that people realise | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
that I'm a human and I'm not always a representative of my religion. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
Don't laugh at me but my favourite kind of music is country music. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
I like Bob Dylan, you know, the sort of protest singers like that. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
I'm surprised that Nabil's not coming because I know Nabil | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
very much does listen to music. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:47 | |
I'm familiar with Metallica. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
Tell me about your favourite Metallica songs, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
or your favourite songs generally? | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
They're not my favourites any more because music is haram. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
Favourite country singer is Dolly Parton. She is my role model. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
I think she's a fantastic example of "don't judge a book by its cover". | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
I can imagine Mani doing a bit of I Will Survive. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
Or It's Raining Men. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
MAN SINGS | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
Tonight, I think with Naila, for example, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
I'd love to just sit down and have a cocktail. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
That would be a great thing to do. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
But I'm a bit apprehensive about talking too openly about drinking, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
simply because my mother really disapproves of alcohol... | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
quite strongly. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
She's never touched a drop in her life | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
and she's be very disappointed to know that I've tried it. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
Very much so. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
THEY CHATTER | 0:44:47 | 0:44:48 | |
# What they're going to say | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
# Let the storm rage on... # | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
# Do you know what you started? | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
# I just came here to party | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
# And now we're rockin' on the dance floor, acting naughty | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
# Your hands around my waist | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
# Just let the music play | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
# We're hand in hand, chest to chest and now we're face-to-face... # | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
I was very restricted by the religion. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
"Don't do this, don't do that. This means this, this means that." | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
I felt the Muslim god, as I was exposed to, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
was a very punishing god. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
There was a lot to be guilty and ashamed of. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
# Weren't you the one who tried to break me with desire? | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
# Did you think I'd crumble? | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
# Did you think I'd lay down and die? # | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
That's not exclusive to Islam. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
Wherever you've got religion, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
you've got mass control and you find a way to humiliate people. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:50 | |
# I will survive | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
# I will survive... # | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
You condition them enough and they will humiliate themselves | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
in the privacy of their minds. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
# You're beautiful | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
# You're beautiful | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
# You're beautiful, it's true. # | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
CHEERING | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
It was so much fun. It was exactly what we needed, in fact. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
I think it was such a nice release from all the tension | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
of the last couple of days. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
# You're beautiful | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
# You're beautiful, it's true. # | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
My religion doesn't say, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:33 | |
"Don't smile or you will burn in the hellfire." | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
Even Abdul Haq has a laugh when girls aren't around. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
I'm Baraa. Nice to meet you, mate. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
While the others head home, Syrian-born student Baraa | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
has stopped to chat to one of the locals. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
-What's all this about? -This is a TV show about Muslims in the UK. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
-I'm a Muslim, in case you didn't know. -Oh, yeah? | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
-I'm part of the EDL. -Wow, really? -I run with the EDL. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
-Give me a hug, then. -No. -Give me a hug. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
-Come on, give me a hug. -English Defence League. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
I know EDL, man. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
You've never marched with them, so you don't know. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
You are the very first EDL person I've met in person. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
I'm really, really interested. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
Tell me any misconception, any wrong information. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
I'm not prepared to disclose nothing about the EDL. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
Just tell me anything you have about anything you think might be wrong | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
or anything you'd like to know from me. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
-I'm really interested. -Isis, formed by Muslims. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
-OK, fair play... -Terror. -Yeah. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
You talk about World War III, World War III's already started. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
I'll tell you something, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
I'm a person and I'm a Muslim, I lived all my life in Syria. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
Believe me, I promise you, I can do anything to make you | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
believe that I hate Isis as much as you do. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
I know EDL and I've heard a lot about them and their activities but | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
I want you to know I'm on your side. I'm not coming here to spread Islam. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
I'm not coming here to take people's jobs or scare them or take | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
the British colony, take over. I'm not here to do anything. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
I came here to do my Masters, I came here to enjoy my time and | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
to meet interesting people like you who can understand | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
and give me a chance to speak. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
Some people don't even want to give me a chance to speak. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
They're just, "Fuck off, you're fucking Muslim." | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
No, that's not the case, man. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
I'm your brother. Look, we are the same, aren't we? | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
We are the same, right? | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
-Leave it be. Goodnight. -Goodnight, mate. Enjoy your time. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
'I think he represents the mentality | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
'that doesn't really accept foreigners, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
'doesn't really accept people from different cultures.' | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
I think it was thought-provoking for him. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
That's why he waved his hand and he said goodbye, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
otherwise he would have just turned his back and left. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
But he was kind of thinking or processing things or... Yeah. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
Elated at his first encounter with the EDL, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
Baraa has returned home to share the story. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
Guess who I just spoken to now when we were coming back home. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
Somebody you gave da'wah to earlier today. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
No, somebody who I gave da'wah to in another way. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
But guess from which views he holds. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
-Was he a Muslim? -No. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:02 | |
-Left wing, right wing... -Yes, the second one. EDL. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
-So you just bumped into an EDL guy? -He asked me a couple of questions. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
I told him it's about Islam and then he smiled and said, "I'm EDL." | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
I said, "Oh, really? Come give me a hug." | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
It was the very first EDL person I've seen in person, live. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
Have you spoken to EDL before? | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
Yeah, but my interaction with the EDL are different from you | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
and I don't think I would stand and smile or laugh with anybody | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
that belongs to the party that's responsible for the amount of | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
attacks on Muslims and mosques that the EDL are responsible for. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
I wouldn't hug or shake hands with an EDL member. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
-Do you want to include them all in one label? -Are you mad? | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
-Do you actually know what the EDL is? -I know the EDL... | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
It's not a few of them have racist views and most of them are good. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:48 | |
The party is founded on the principle of Islamophobic | 0:49:48 | 0:49:53 | |
and xenophobic views. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
These guys are bigots and you shouldn't be | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
proud that you just hugged | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
an EDL guy who told you he was from the EDL. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
-I was excited, not proud. -Why would you be excited to hug an EDL member? | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
You could have challenged him on his views. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
You could have done something there but instead you wanted to be | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
-his buddy. -No, no, no, I swear not. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
Can I just cut in? Sorry to be rude, but this is the result of | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
when you go around trying to make Islam pleasing to everyone. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
You don't know how to stand against those who are enemies to Islam. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
You just treat everyone the same. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:23 | |
You could have asked him, "OK, you're in the EDL. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
"You're a fascist party. You attack and you harass innocent people. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
"If you keep attacking young Muslims, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
"if you keep harassing young Muslims | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
"and desecrating mosques, people will get angry and want revenge." | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
That's why we have the problem that we have. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
These guys are part of the cycle of radicalisation. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
But he came to this party because he is misled, he's misinformed, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
he's an idiot. I made him provoke his thoughts. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
How? By telling him that you hate Isis and hugging him. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
OK, I was wrong. Thank you for correcting me. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
I'll try my best to be better. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
You're welcome. You want to high five me and hug me too, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
or is that reserved for fascists? | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
I'm not liberate enough to hug you and high five you. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
-That's relieving. -Thank you. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
Every time my wife is out, if she's even ten minutes late and her | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
phone doesn't ring, I start to get scared. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
So many stories don't make it to the news. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
One of my relatives got punched in the face after Lee Rigby. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
Someone tried to attack my wife in front of me. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
It was the Irish before and now it's us. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
As-salaam-alaikum. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
-You might be wondering why we're up early in the morning. -Yeah. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
So, a lot of you might know what I do for a living. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
I co-founded a non-profit organisation, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
and through this organisation we give support and shelter to | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
vulnerable homeless people. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
We will be going to a soup kitchen and we will be cooking for | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
over 100 homeless people. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
Masha'Allah. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:00 | |
I don't care what religious views you have. We do God's work first. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
When I say God's work, not literally creating or anything like that. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
Let's first just do the good, Inshallah. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
-We welcome it. -Thank you. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
For the first time, everyone's putting their differences aside | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
and joining in together. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
To me that is what a good Muslim is. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
Nobody can be perfect, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:33 | |
but what you can be is a person that tries their best in every | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
single situation to be the best person they can be to others. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
And that's Islam in a nutshell for me. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
Whatever else they may disagree on, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
all Muslims understand the importance of charity. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
Nabil has brought the group to a soup kitchen | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
at the back of a church in Leeds. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
Alhamdulillah. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
Abdul Haq was showing me photos of his family. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
He was just washing up in the sink next to me and I said, "I'm coming," | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
and he didn't move. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
Would your life have been a lot better if you lived in | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
a society where alcohol wasn't allowed? | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
I think it would be a lot healthier. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
So Smirnoff, Tennant's, Strongbow have agreed to pay tax | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
to the government. The government is saying, | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
"If I'm getting money out of this, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
"no matter what it does to society, then let it be." | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
-That is the straight bigger picture there. -Exactly. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
It's a bizarre sight, seeing them all around the table bonding. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
-You wouldn't ever think you'd see a sight like that. -No. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
God is going to say, "I will save you from the hellfire." | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
Do you see the importance of being a Muslim? | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
I would rather we just let them find out that all the people that did | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
this for us were Muslims. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
That is more, I think, than "Hey, convert now! Have some soup." | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
You know what I mean? | 0:53:57 | 0:53:58 | |
Thank you, God, for the food that you have given us and thank you, | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
God, for bringing these great people to our doors and providing us | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
-with this beautiful curry. -It's been a pleasure. -Amen. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
-Hiya! -Are you doing seconds or no? -I think we can. -Yes. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
Food is gorgeous. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
I think the best da'wah is that which touches your heart naturally. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:23 | |
Just a reminder, you know, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
we complain when our food isn't nice enough. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
Enjoy your meal. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
But these people don't have anywhere to eat but here. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
And what makes it worse is that they are the lucky ones, you know? | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
-I ate it all. -Did you go for seconds? -No. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
I haven't started yet, so you take this, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
I'll get more for myself. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
What are you doing today? | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
One of my friends, so the guy over there, he has the charity | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
where he goes and helps people in trouble, homeless people, etc. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
So he asked us all to come along today to help him cook. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
It's the influx of economic migrants coming to our country, yeah? | 0:55:11 | 0:55:16 | |
Taking our places. Why am I on the streets? | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
I shouldn't be on the streets. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
Do you think you're on the streets because of immigrants? | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
Partly because of myself but also due to lack of housing spaces. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:27 | |
I've seen the face of Leeds change completely. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
-What do you mean? -Like, Polish shops all over. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
A lot of Asians in Leeds that do help. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
OK, so we don't have a problem with the Asians? | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
Asians have got a problem with themselves. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
Because a lot of people now, right, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:45 | |
look at young Asian lads as groomers and rapists and stuff like that. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:51 | |
When you're done we need help at the back here. We're just cleaning. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
I don't want to stop the conversation. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:56 | |
It was nice to meet you. I'm Asian but I'm definitely not a groomer. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
If it wasn't for immigrants I wouldn't be here today | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
and if I wasn't here today, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
you wouldn't have a glass of milk to make you feel better. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
So that makes me a little bit sad, but nonetheless, I've got to go | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
and help in the back. It was lovely to meet both of you. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
We didn't mean any offence. We were just speaking openly. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
-I'll see you later. -See you. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:21 | |
It was a surprisingly good day. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
I think it's the first day no-one's objected and everybody got involved. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:36 | |
It is a big part of our faith, charity and whatnot. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
Really, what kind of an arsehole would you have to be to not | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
want to feed the homeless, you know? | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
I think this has been really positive for my faith. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
Because I'm in the middle and I constantly have to give | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
that third radical-moderate opinion, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
I think that's kind of ignited the intellectual passion that I had. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
Allah! | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
I went away from being religious nearly 30 years ago. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
I'm surprised that 30 years down the line the younger generation | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
has still got lots of hang-ups, and then it's got more extreme, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
so it's like, oh, it's even worse. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
I've been very surprised at the degrees of how people | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
understand the religion of Islam. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
I'm not sure the majority of people in this house would say, | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
"I am a practising Muslim." | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
You speak to them, "I'm on my own road, I'm on my own journey." | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
They don't want to hear what Allah has got to say and what | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
the Prophet has got to say. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:39 | |
I've got such a soft spot for Abdul Haq. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
You can tell a nasty man from a mile away | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
and Abdul Haq is not a nasty man. He's a messed-up man. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:50 | |
I just can't accept he's a monster and turn away from him. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
-Next time, talk turns to identity... -I come from a Shia background. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:08 | |
If someone says, "I'm a Shia," they are kuffar. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
-Five-star, grade A kuffar. -What does that mean? | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
-That means they're going to go to the hellfire. -Holy Moley. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
..Britishness... | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
British values for me, colonialism, institutional racism, | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
theft and genocide. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
-..and race. -For God's sake, listen to me. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
You told me not to mention my experiences. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
-The race thing. -The race thing. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 | |
The majority of racist abuse I've ever taken in my life | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
has been from other Muslims. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:35 |