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-We were pretty shambolic,

-but we had fun.

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-For the next hour, we'll guide you

-along the timeline...

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-..and musical journey

-of the members of Y Tebot Piws.

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-Why the name Y Tebot Piws?

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-Well, Mr Jones...

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-Well, Mr Jones...

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-You can call me sir.

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-OK, sir, Mr Jones.

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-We wanted to call ourselves

-Huw Jones or Dafydd Iwan...

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-..but they were already taken.

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-The original name

-was Potiwrs Gwynedd.

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-We'll look

-at their musical careers...

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-..between forming in 1968

-and this year's final gig.

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-The word that crops up most

-is "fun".

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-# Goodness gracious, do sit down,

-someone has stolen my nose!

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-# Goodness gracious, do sit down,

-someone has stolen my nose!

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-They were punk before punk emerged.

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-Complete nutters!

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-If you've heard of John Jones,

-the wooden lad...

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-..and if you've left Llanfihangel

-or milked the cow...

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-..you will be aware

-of the crazy Y Tebot Piws gang.

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-# I'm going back

-to Blaenau Ffestiniog

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-# Catching the first train

-out of town

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-# I'm going back

-to Blaenau Ffestiniog

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-# Because it's my seventh heaven #

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-We started in 1968

-at Cyncoed College.

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-Stan was there.

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-He was my classmate at school,

-so I knew him.

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-We met Sbardun.

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-He had a guitar,

-and I had some sort of guitar.

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-We started to fool around. Stan

-was a fantastic singer at school.

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-# I'm going back

-to Blaenau Ffestiniog

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-# Because it's my seventh heaven #

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-We started jamming...

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-..and began to think

-about composing songs.

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-We wrote John Jones.

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-It took at least twenty minutes,

-if I remember rightly.

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-We rushed to the girls' room

-to sing the song...

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-..and not for any other reason!

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-We saw an advert

-for a pop eisteddfod in Denbigh.

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-We decided to give it a go.

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-We won 6 - 2 each.

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-It was a lot of beer!

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-Despite their success in Denbigh,

-Y Tebot Piws wasn't complete.

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-A fourth member was yet to join.

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-Me and a schoolmate were in a band

-called The Outlanders.

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-We sang in English.

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-# Freight train, freight train,

-going so fast #

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-Our first gig

-was at Swansea Labour Club.

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-We were getting ten bob.

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-We sang two songs and the bloke

-gave us ten bob and said...

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-.."Go up the Conservative Club.

-They might like you up there."

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-Not a good start!

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-We were students

-and had already come across Dewi.

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-He played guitar and sang.

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-He came to us after our Denbigh win

-and said, "You sing in Welsh."

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-"Yes," we said.

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-"I've composed a few Welsh songs,"

-he continued. "You can have them."

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-He gave us three or four songs...

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-..including Mari

-and Dan Ddwr Oer Y Llyn.

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-We thought they were good.

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-Dewi suggested improvements

-whenever we played them.

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-Sbardun finally gave in and said,

-"Join us if you're so bloody good!"

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-"I thought you'd never ask,"

-said Dewi.

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-We were four now.

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-That's when it started for real.

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-In those days, bands' gigs

-were more of a variety show.

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-Y Tebot Piws

-created quite an impression.

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-All sorts of groups

-would perform.

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-Five or six bands or soloists

-would take part.

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-Everyone sang a couple of songs

-in the first and second half.

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-It was easier than it is today.

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-People expect us to perform

-for up to 90 minutes.

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-At the time, all Welsh songs

-were very melancholy.

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-There were protest songs,

-and everything was sad.

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-Everyone dressed similarly.

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-We wanted to do

-something completely different.

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-We didn't practise a lot.

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-We were only on for five minutes,

-ten minutes at the most.

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-We'd be in the pub by eight -

-and we'd been paid a fiver!

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-The band recorded four EPs

-before 1972.

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-The instrumental wizardry

-of The James Hogg Band...

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-..who also played on the records...

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-..was a far cry

-from seeing Y Tebot Piws live.

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-Y Tebot Piws were great on record.

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-But unfortunately...

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-..gigs were a major stumbling block.

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-They didn't turn up,

-or one member didn't turn up.

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-I remember watching Disc A Dawn

-in the New Ely.

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-It was fantastic at the time.

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-Suddenly, I heard, "Tonight,

-Y Tebot Piws are in Llan-non!"

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-I realized I'd arranged it.

-We didn't make it.

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-We had no hope of reaching Llan-non!

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-We phoned to say the car had broken

-down and promised them a free gig.

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-They didn't show up for that either.

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-I say they, because I didn't

-even know about the gig.

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-He did know! He was too lazy!

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-If someone said to Ems...

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-.."Wouldn't it be a great idea

-to go for a walk around the lake?"

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-He'd say, "I've got a better idea.

-Let's not."

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-# Farewell, Llanfihangel

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-# I'm leaving on the wind

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-# Oh, farewell

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-# The sun is guiding me

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-# To the Wales of yesteryear

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-# Oh, farewell

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-# The dark skies will fade

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-# A new dawn we'll see

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-# I'm flying now

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-# And I can hold my head up high

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-# Oh, farewell, Llanfihangel

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-# I see gentle Dewi

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-# Oh, farewell #

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-We were spitting on stage

-long before the punks...

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-..especially

-when we sang a serious song.

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-If Dewi wanted to sing a sad song...

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-..I knew he would sing Lleucu Llwyd.

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-Someone accidentally spat

-on someone's cheek.

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-He spat back.

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-By the end of the song,

-their T-shirts were soaking!

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-They spat at each other

-regularly after that.

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-It was an odd thing to do.

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-Five years later, Johnny Rotten

-did exactly the same thing.

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-He must have been

-to one of our gigs.

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-I've been thinking about the awful

-jokes you crack on stage and TV.

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-Are you a band

-that's trying to be funny...

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-..with the emphasis on trying,

-or a real band that's lost its way?

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-Yes.

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-I'd had a few pints

-before a gig in Rhyl.

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-I'd stolen Alun Ffred's mac.

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-He still bangs on about that mac!

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-I was so drunk,

-I didn't even take the mac off.

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-In fact,

-the guitar stayed in the case!

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-If we knew there'd be good guitars

-at a gig...

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-..Ems and I

-would end up quarrelling.

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-If Huw Jones was on the bill...

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-..we knew he'd bring his fantastic

-Hagstrom acoustic guitar.

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-Meic Stevens helped him buy it.

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-It was a great guitar.

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-We'd argue over who would ask

-to borrow his guitar.

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-Huw Jones's guitar!

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-I was a terrible band mate.

-I didn't even bring a guitar.

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-I just turned up

-in Alun Ffred's mac with a few quid.

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-We'd chat amongst ourselves.

-"Who's playing on Saturday?"

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-"Y Diliau, and so and so."

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-"Is Huw Jones singing?" "Yes."

-"OK, we'll do the gig."

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-None of us had a guitar

-for many of the gigs

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-We'd use Dafydd Iwan's guitar!

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-# Two little dogs go to the forest

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-# With a new shoe on each foot #

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-Despite the chaos and anarchy,

-the band's following grew.

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-They appeared on Disc A Dawn and

-topped the Asbri and Y Cymro charts.

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-Pws composes fantastic songs

-out of nothing.

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-He composed Nwy Yn Y Nen...

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-..when we drove from a gig

-through Port Talbot.

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-He noticed a strange neon light,

-and it was a misty night.

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-He saw a sign for British Gas.

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-The Welsh word for gas is "nwy",

-so I started to sing.

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-Stan began harmonizing.

-We realized it was a nice tune.

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-We wrote it in ten minutes.

-It came just like that.

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-We won 50.

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-Fifty quid! They get 10,000 now!

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-Roly, the presenter,

-didn't know me from Adam.

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-He shook my hand.

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-He said, "Did you dream you'd win?"

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-Yes, something like that.

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-I just lifted my shirt!

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-Everyone collapsed.

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-Roly said to Huw Jones, "I hadn't

-realized Dewi didn't speak Welsh."

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-I wrote the song!

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-By the end of 1972, Y Tebot Piws

-had split up - for the time being.

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-Their individual contribution

-to the Welsh pop scene continued.

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-Members felt that they wanted

-to do something else.

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-I was working on a magazine, Swn.

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-I was the co-editor with Dafydd Mei.

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-Pws wanted to start a heavier band.

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-Dewi Pws,

-heavier band, after the break.

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-After Y Tebot Piws split up in 1972,

-the members followed separate paths.

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-Dewi Pws turned his hand

-to a heavier style.

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-He loves Status Quo,

-he truly loves Quo.

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-He has always dreamt

-of being a rock singer.

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-# Wild dream of the long needle #

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-I often slept on Hefin Elis's floor

-in Aberystwyth.

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-"Come on, they're open!"

-he'd say at eight in the morning.

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-Dewi and I spent a lot of time

-in Aberystwyth's Marine Hotel.

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-There was a jukebox

-in the cellar bar.

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-Rod Stewart's Maggie May

-struck a chord with me.

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-It was a combination

-of rock and folksy mandolin.

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-I liked the blend of rock and folk.

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-That was the direction

-I wanted to take.

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-# Holes in their white arms

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-# That's where the money goes #

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-Edward H was Hefin Elis's vision.

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-The lad from Port Talbot

-studied music at university.

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-He'd already played with Chwyldro...

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-..whose songs championed

-the Welsh Language Society.

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-Datguddiad

-was another heavy rock band...

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-..in the tradition of Y Blew.

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-He realized his dream with Edward H.

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-He created a heavy rock band...

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-..that captured

-Welsh speakers' imagination.

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-Perhaps Edward H

-was Hefin and Dewi's vision.

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-They wouldn't perform live...

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-..until John Griffiths

-and Charli Britton joined them.

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-Speculation was rife

-before the first Edward H gig.

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-The members had come

-from different bands.

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-Could they succeed?

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-Their first gig was a noson lawen.

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-There were folk performers,

-a choir and cerdd dant singers.

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-Then these boys came on stage

-with guitars.

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-Dewi Pws started to sing

-Can Y Stiwdants.

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-Well... the place erupted.

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-Edward H was born.

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-But the band wasn't complete -

-there was something missing.

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-They didn't have to look far.

-Ac Eraill were on stage that night.

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-There was nothing wrong

-with Dewi's voice...

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-..but he could sing some things

-better than others.

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-I was looking for a different voice.

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-I wanted to take a step back.

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-I didn't know the chords,

-so Hefin kept scowling at me.

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-Ac Eraill were big at the time.

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-We really wanted Cleif.

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-People like to think

-that things turned sour.

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-If there was any resentment...

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-..to be honest, it was my fault.

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-I remember the night I had to tell

-Ac Eraill I'd made up my mind...

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-..to join Edward H.

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-I can still see and remember

-their disappointment.

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-Hefin Elis, Pws

-and Charli Britton...

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-..asked me

-whether the folk music route...

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-..was the one I wanted to take.

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-They suggested I turned to rock.

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-# Nightmare #

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-With Cleif on board, they recorded

-Hen Ffordd Gymreig O Fyw.

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-It sold 998 within a fortnight...

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-..and almost 3,000 in two years.

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-There was a lot of anticipation

-surrounding their first album.

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-I wasn't disappointed.

-It summed up the period perfectly.

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-They mixed folk and rock.

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-When the album was released...

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-..it was one of the best albums

-I'd ever heard.

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-# In a cottage by the river

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-# I keep speckled cattle

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-# I have a house

-on the banks of the Taff

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-# Oh, come to me, Gwenfron #

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-Edward H was fast becoming the

-most popular Welsh language band.

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-The band inevitably imitated

-the humour and chaos of Tebot Piws.

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-We wanted to be groundbreaking.

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-We'd have a light show.

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-We had flash lights that blew up.

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-It was terrible.

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-We knew the flash

-would go off when we sang VC10.

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-One of the blokes set off the flash.

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-We were such wimps, acting rock and

-roll at the front of the stage.

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-# VC10 #

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-Then we ran back

-before the flash.

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-It was like Spinal Tap.

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-By the mid 1970s...

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-..Edward H was the first Welsh band

-to have a mass following.

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-The band put a stop to the idea

-that singing in Welsh was corny.

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-Everyone went bonkers.

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-People dressed like them.

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-They had groupies everywhere.

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-Yeah.

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-From then on,

-Wales had its own rock scene.

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-As a result of Cleif

-joining Edward H Dafis...

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-..there was a gap to fill

-in Ac Eraill.

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-Another Tebot member

-would broaden his musical horizon.

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-After Y Tebot Piws split up...

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-..Sbardun joined Ac Eraill.

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-Ac Eraill were Tecwyn Ifan,

-formerly of Perlau Taf...

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-..Iestyn Garlick,

-Phil Edwards and Huw Williams.

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-They wanted to stick

-to traditional Welsh folk music.

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-They composed their own songs.

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-They were also involved

-with the revolution.

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-They were more aligned to Adfer

-than the Welsh Language Society.

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-They captivated audiences

-with their long hair.

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-They sang about what worried

-the younger generation.

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-We tried to follow

-Y Tebot Piws's footsteps.

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-There was room for humorous songs.

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-We only recorded a few of those.

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-We evolved to sing the type of song

-that Tecs composed.

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-They were serious...

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-..and more political, about

-the language and Adfer ideology.

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-# The leader

-of Mynachlog-ddu parish #

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-The band often performed

-at events arranged by Adfer.

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-Many of their songs were influenced

-by Emyr Llewelyn's speeches.

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-As a movement,

-Adfer had a certain appeal for me.

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-It rolled up its sleeves

-to do something.

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-It didn't stand on a soapbox

-and shout about something.

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-They bought

-and renovated old houses.

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-Volunteers would do them up

-for local people.

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-I didn't agree with some

-of Adfer's philosophies.

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-They were too right-wing for me.

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-On the whole...

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-..I was happy

-to be a member of Ac Eraill.

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-The international success of Celtic

-musicians like Alan Stivell...

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-..opened the door

-to other folk groups.

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-Ac Eraill were to perform

-in Nantes in Brittany.

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-We had a dilemma -

-our van had died.

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-We called the van Nia Ben Las.

-It was totally clapped out.

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-Mici Plwm was our manager.

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-Shakin' Stevens And The Sunsets

-lent me the van.

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-They lived in Penarth.

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-Mici and I went

-to Shakin' Stevens's mother's house.

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-I knocked the door

-and asked for the van.

0:21:510:21:54

-"Shakin' needs it to play in Germany

-next week." "OK, fine."

0:21:540:21:58

-We set off.

0:21:580:22:00

-Sbardun sat in the front with me.

0:22:000:22:02

-I can't remember

-who was in the middle.

0:22:030:22:06

-Sbardun sat in the front

-because we both came from Penrhyn.

0:22:060:22:10

-He lied

-and said he could speak French.

0:22:110:22:14

-It was a ruse to sit in the front.

0:22:140:22:17

-The only French he knew...

0:22:180:22:20

-..was the French

-of the tea advert chimpanzees.

0:22:210:22:25

-On the quay in Calais,

-he shouted out...

0:22:250:22:30

-.."avez-vous un map?"

0:22:300:22:32

-That's all he could say!

0:22:330:22:35

-That's all he could say!

-

-I got sent to the back!

0:22:350:22:36

-In that period...

0:22:370:22:40

-..1973-1974...

0:22:400:22:42

-..many bands

-considered the possibility...

0:22:430:22:46

-..of making a living out of it,

-and becoming a professional band.

0:22:460:22:51

-Sbardun was keen.

0:22:510:22:56

-I couldn't think of anything else.

-I wanted to have a crack at it.

0:22:570:23:02

-I knew it would be hard,

-but I wanted to give it a go.

0:23:020:23:05

-Sbardun was the only one

-in a position to do it.

0:23:060:23:10

-I reckon he regrets

-not taking the gamble.

0:23:100:23:13

-I realized the rest of the boys

-were only starting out.

0:23:130:23:18

-They were finishing college.

-It was more of a gamble for them.

0:23:180:23:22

-Most of us realized

-we had to go back to college.

0:23:230:23:27

-We couldn't afford

-to do it full-time.

0:23:270:23:30

-# Nia Ben Aur

0:23:310:23:33

-# From Tir na nOg

0:23:340:23:36

-# You were the most beautiful girl

-Osian ever saw #

0:23:370:23:42

-The song Nia Ben Aur

-was warmly received in gigs.

0:23:430:23:47

-The first Welsh rock opera

-was based on the song and legend.

0:23:470:23:51

-Welsh youth could see a contemporary

-production in their own country.

0:23:520:23:57

-Nia Ben Aur was pioneering.

0:23:580:24:00

-Apart from a rock opera on HTV

-a few years earlier...

0:24:010:24:06

-..with Meic Stevens,

-Heather and Geraint Jarman...

0:24:060:24:10

-..it was the first theatrical

-Welsh language rock opera.

0:24:110:24:16

-The National Eisteddfod officials

-gave them the chance...

0:24:160:24:21

-..to create a rock opera.

0:24:210:24:23

-Ac Eraill, Heather Jones, Dewi Pws,

-Hefin Elis was musical director.

0:24:240:24:30

-Wynford Ellis Owen directed.

0:24:300:24:32

-They were in charge.

0:24:330:24:35

-They didn't need anyone's help.

0:24:350:24:40

-They had the confidence

-to do it themselves.

0:24:400:24:43

-This stemmed from the intellectual

-revolution of the previous decade.

0:24:430:24:48

-This generation was confident

-enough to do things themselves...

0:24:490:24:53

-..in Welsh, in Wales.

0:24:530:24:55

-Jesus Christ Superstar was popular.

0:24:550:24:59

-We explored the possibility

-of doing it in Welsh.

0:25:010:25:05

-We went on the train to London

-to see Jesus Christ Superstar...

0:25:050:25:10

-..to see how it was put together.

0:25:110:25:13

-We were full of excitement

-on our way back.

0:25:140:25:17

-We realized we could do it in Welsh.

0:25:170:25:21

-We worked out a plot.

0:25:210:25:24

-The rock opera was based on

-the Irish legend of Oisin and Niamh.

0:25:250:25:29

-Once again, a Celtic influence

-tied it all together.

0:25:290:25:34

-We were invited to take part.

-It was a fantastic adventure.

0:25:340:25:39

-No-one heard a word on the night.

0:25:510:25:54

-It was a disaster.

0:25:550:25:56

-The band was fine,

-but the sound failed.

0:25:570:26:00

-No-one heard a note.

0:26:000:26:02

-Radio mics were new in 1974.

0:26:030:26:05

-Cleif and Heather had radio mics.

0:26:060:26:09

-They just didn't work.

0:26:100:26:11

-Only Dewi Pws's microphone worked.

0:26:120:26:15

-His hand mic was different

-from everyone else's.

0:26:150:26:19

-His character would create

-the biggest impact, anyway.

0:26:200:26:24

-He had the flash comic role.

0:26:240:26:28

-He had the edge

-because everyone could hear him.

0:26:290:26:33

-# Ri, Ri, Ri, King of Tir na nOg

0:26:340:26:36

-# My name is Ri #

0:26:370:26:40

-I watched the show.

0:26:410:26:43

-Arthur Brown sat close to me

-in the audience.

0:26:430:26:47

-The Amazing World Of Arthur Brown.

0:26:470:26:50

-He came on stage

-with his hair on fire.

0:26:510:26:55

-"I am the god of hell fire,

-I bring you fire."

0:26:560:26:59

-He was famous, and he was backstage!

0:26:590:27:02

-"Arthur Brown!" I said.

-"Yeah, alright?"

0:27:020:27:05

-"What are you doing here?"

-I asked him.

0:27:060:27:08

-"Just come to pick up the vibes,

-man, the Celts."

0:27:080:27:12

-"There we are then!" I said.

0:27:130:27:15

-There we are then. T, w, a, t.

0:27:150:27:17

-BLEEP

0:27:180:27:19

-It's unusual today...

0:27:220:27:23

-..apart from festivals, to have

-people playing with other bands.

0:27:240:27:29

-We got to know one another.

0:27:300:27:32

-Everyone contributed

-to the composing and performing.

0:27:320:27:37

-It was a catalyst to strengthen

-the existing friendships.

0:27:380:27:42

-It was a good feeling.

0:27:430:27:46

-# I'm the King

0:27:470:27:49

-# Ri, Ri, Ri, Ri,

-Ri is my name, yeah! #

0:27:490:27:52

-.

0:27:550:27:55

-888

0:27:580:27:58

-888

-

-888

0:27:580:28:00

-After Edward H split up in 1976,

-most of the band formed Injaroc...

0:28:020:28:07

-..with Geraint Griffiths, Endaf

-Emlyn and two members of Sidan.

0:28:080:28:13

-Sidan was nice but not very cool.

0:28:130:28:15

-Perhaps we're cool now,

-but at the time we were nicey-nicey.

0:28:160:28:21

-I wanted to get my teeth

-into something more meaty.

0:28:210:28:27

-Injaroc was the next step for me.

0:28:280:28:33

-# Who'd give a damn

-in the middle of the night? #

0:28:400:28:43

-I first saw Injaroc

-in Aberystwyth's old Coliseum.

0:28:450:28:52

-It was packed.

0:28:520:28:54

-Unfortunately for Injaroc...

0:28:540:28:57

-..a lot of people

-weren't happy with the band.

0:28:580:29:01

-They shouted at them.

0:29:010:29:03

-"Where's Dewi Morris?!

0:29:030:29:05

-"What have you done

-with Dewi Morris?! It's a disgrace!"

0:29:050:29:09

-They performed several gigs...

0:29:100:29:13

-..to a disgruntled audience.

0:29:140:29:17

-It all began when someone

-suggested the term Anglo-American.

0:29:180:29:25

-It was a mortal sin

-to be too Anglo-American.

0:29:260:29:29

-We were all influenced

-by Anglo-American music.

0:29:300:29:33

-It was rock and pop music.

0:29:330:29:35

-People said the music

-was too sophisticated.

0:29:360:29:39

-It was different

-from what Edward H had done.

0:29:390:29:43

-Some Edward H fans were angry.

0:29:430:29:48

-We upset a few people.

0:29:490:29:52

-Either they didn't like the music,

-or they felt let down by the split.

0:29:520:29:57

-There was absolutely no chance

-that they'd support Injaroc.

0:29:570:30:03

-Injaroc wasn't complicated at all.

0:30:030:30:06

-Looking back,

-it's rather embarrassing!

0:30:060:30:09

-We were a bit green,

-if you know what I mean!

0:30:100:30:14

-# Mr Chairman

0:30:140:30:16

-# Can I second this motion?

0:30:160:30:19

-# It's a funky notion

0:30:200:30:22

-# Funky notion #

0:30:220:30:24

-The one record

-we managed to produce...

0:30:240:30:28

-..was very good.

0:30:290:30:31

-It was also different.

0:30:310:30:33

-Perhaps it's appreciated today

-more than it was at the time.

0:30:340:30:38

-A few good things came out of it.

0:30:380:30:41

-We formed links

-with people like Endaf and Geraint.

0:30:410:30:45

-Bando, Jip and Eliffant

-came out of it.

0:30:450:30:48

-Edward H reformed for a while.

0:30:480:30:51

-Following the disappointing

-reaction to Injaroc...

0:30:510:30:55

-..Edward H reformed

-before splitting again in 1983.

0:30:550:30:59

-Dewi had a new project

-in the pipeline, Mochyn 'Apus.

0:30:590:31:04

-# Happy pig off his head every night

0:31:120:31:17

-# He never feels pain #

0:31:180:31:20

-I saw Mochyn 'Apus

-at Llangefni Eisteddfod in 1983.

0:31:210:31:24

-I can't understand

-why they weren't popular.

0:31:250:31:29

-People disapproved

-of the non-Welsh band members.

0:31:290:31:33

-The same old argument.

0:31:330:31:35

-I thought they were very funny.

0:31:360:31:38

-Pws displayed

-the old Tebot Piws zaniness.

0:31:380:31:43

-I wanted to do Mochyn 'Apus

-in order to perform with Tich.

0:31:430:31:48

-He was, and still is, my hero.

-He was a bloke and a half.

0:31:480:31:52

-There was also Dafydd Pierce.

0:31:530:31:56

-And then Dyfed Thomas.

0:31:560:32:01

-We did a gig with Yr Anhrefn,

-who didn't like us.

0:32:010:32:05

-They called us a TV band.

-Rhys Mwyn frowned in the corner.

0:32:060:32:10

-It made us worse - I painted a red

-spot on my face and wore leathers.

0:32:110:32:16

-We tried to out-punk the punks.

0:32:170:32:20

-Dyfed Thomas had a great idea.

0:32:200:32:24

-He'd come on as a pig.

0:32:250:32:28

-He brought a pig's head from London.

0:32:300:32:32

-He came on

-pointing a torch at his face.

0:32:330:32:36

-The pig's head was horrible,

-but he couldn't see!

0:32:380:32:41

-He pulled Tich and Jack's leads

-until they almost came off stage.

0:32:430:32:50

-Terrible. Spinal Tap,

-rock and roll!

0:32:500:32:54

-I only saw Mochyn 'Apus once,

-and I really enjoyed them.

0:32:560:33:00

-It's a pity they stopped performing.

0:33:000:33:04

-After Y Tebot Piws, Emyr Huws Jones

-took a different route.

0:33:050:33:09

-I worked in Aberystwyth

-after leaving college.

0:33:100:33:13

-I became friends with Emyr Wyn

-and the rest of Mynediad Am Ddim.

0:33:130:33:18

-I was considering starting a band.

0:33:190:33:23

-I asked Emyr whether he'd fancy

-starting one. "I have," he said.

0:33:230:33:28

-"Why don't you join us?"

0:33:280:33:30

-I heard them sing

-and thought they sounded good.

0:33:300:33:34

-That's what I did.

0:33:340:33:36

-# I'd like to play guitar

-like Rory Gallagher

0:33:370:33:42

-# Or write stories like Stan Lee #

0:33:430:33:48

-I liked Mynediad Am Ddim's

-witty songs.

0:33:490:33:55

-They always made me laugh.

0:33:560:33:58

-They always fooled around on stage.

0:33:590:34:03

-They inherited that

-from Y Tebot Piws.

0:34:040:34:09

-# I'd like to be

-as big as Robert Mitchum #

0:34:100:34:13

-The spirit of Owain Glyndwr...

0:34:160:34:19

-..and Bob Tai'r Felin

-are in their performances.

0:34:190:34:23

-Their performances

-echoed a traditional noson lawen.

0:34:230:34:28

-They had the audience in the palm

-of their hands from the word go.

0:34:290:34:33

-Emyr Wyn's voice and personality

-could do that.

0:34:340:34:38

-It was a strange combination

-of a violin, guitar and French horn.

0:34:390:34:44

-We concentrated on the vocals.

0:34:450:34:48

-We got together in the Marine

-and the Skinners in Aberystwyth.

0:34:500:34:56

-We sang student-like songs.

0:34:570:35:00

-Everyone wanted to sing in a group.

0:35:010:35:05

-# Of course

-you can walk along my footpath

0:35:130:35:18

-# You can go wherever

-you want on my land #

0:35:200:35:25

-Ems's major contribution

-to the group was his songs.

0:35:260:35:31

-They sang pop songs

-that are now Welsh classics.

0:35:310:35:35

-Ems brought along

-four or five songs...

0:35:360:35:39

-..like Arica, Fi...

0:35:400:35:43

-..Padi...

0:35:470:35:48

-..and it was an eye-opener for us.

0:35:490:35:52

-This was more serious.

0:35:520:35:55

-The songs we wrote were OK.

0:35:560:35:59

-But they had no shelf life.

0:36:000:36:03

-Some are still played today,

-and they're OK.

0:36:040:36:07

-We all realized

-how special Ems's songs were.

0:36:080:36:13

-# This song was saved from the sea

0:36:140:36:18

-# It was seen there, drowning

0:36:210:36:24

-# By the lighthouse keeper #

0:36:240:36:28

-It was Ems's most prolific time

-as a composer.

0:36:290:36:34

-His songs were gentle,

-nostalgic and romantic.

0:36:350:36:41

-They were part

-of Mynediad Am Ddim's repertoire...

0:36:420:36:45

-..of fun songs and quieter numbers.

0:36:450:36:48

-It made them a successful folk band.

0:36:490:36:52

-My career has been very jammy.

0:36:580:37:01

-I've been in the right place

-at the right time.

0:37:020:37:05

-I met Ems, Stan and Pws

-at Cyncoed College.

0:37:060:37:10

-I worked in Glansefin when Ac Eraill

-were in college in Carmarthen.

0:37:110:37:15

-I found myself in Aber

-when Mynediad Am Ddim were students.

0:37:160:37:22

-Emyr Wyn asked me whether I'd like

-to do something with them.

0:37:240:37:28

-They had the same motive

-as Ac Eraill - my banjo!

0:37:290:37:34

-The former Tebot members' reunion

-didn't last long.

0:37:390:37:42

-Once again, Ems had had enough.

0:37:430:37:45

-It was easier to travel with

-Mynediad when I was in Aberystwyth.

0:37:450:37:49

-We were in the same place,

-and going to the same concerts.

0:37:500:37:54

-When Emyr and I moved to Cardiff...

0:37:540:37:57

-..things became more difficult.

0:37:570:38:00

-I wasn't enjoying it as much.

0:38:000:38:02

-We'd meet somewhere and sing,

-then make our way home.

0:38:030:38:08

-I found it sad.

0:38:080:38:10

-I'd had enough

-of performing by then.

0:38:100:38:13

-I left at the end of the 1970s,

-but I still wrote songs for them.

0:38:140:38:19

-I didn't perform with them again.

0:38:190:38:22

-When I was with Mynediad

-in Aberystwyth...

0:38:240:38:27

-..we were gigging and travelling

-every weekend.

0:38:270:38:31

-Tecwyn Ifan

-had started to sing on his own.

0:38:330:38:37

-He asked me if I'd be interested

-in accompanying him on the guitar.

0:38:390:38:44

-I agreed.

0:38:440:38:48

-# We'll go to the towns and cities

0:38:500:38:55

-# It will be good

-to meet the people #

0:38:560:39:00

-Working with Tecs was different,

-because his songs were so sad.

0:39:030:39:08

-His songs had a message.

0:39:090:39:13

-People liked to sit down

-and listen to them.

0:39:140:39:17

-It was a nice change...

0:39:170:39:19

-..after two years of living

-the wild life with Mynediad.

0:39:190:39:23

-# Sleeping under the trees

0:39:230:39:26

-# And eating their fruit

0:39:260:39:29

-# After the selling's over

0:39:300:39:32

-# My gratitude I'll show #

0:39:330:39:36

-Many of Tecwyn's songs

-became anthems.

0:39:360:39:41

-One of these was Y Dref Wen.

0:39:410:39:43

-People were interested

-in legends and history...

0:39:440:39:48

-..and heroes to sing about.

0:39:480:39:51

-At the time...

0:39:520:39:55

-..people could identify

-with Y Dref Wen...

0:39:560:40:00

-..as with many other similar songs.

0:40:000:40:03

-It's not that it's a special song.

0:40:030:40:07

-It conveyed something

-that had happened in the past...

0:40:070:40:13

-..which people felt

-was repeating itself.

0:40:130:40:19

-# Returning home #

0:40:200:40:23

-.

0:40:310:40:31

-888

0:40:330:40:33

-888

-

-888

0:40:330:40:35

-Y Tebot Piws's members

-rarely performed after the 1980s.

0:40:370:40:41

-Some composed

-for leading Welsh artistes.

0:40:420:40:45

-At the beginning

-of the millennium...

0:40:450:40:48

-..they received an offer

-they couldn't refuse.

0:40:480:40:52

-Bryn Terfel invited us

-to take part in the Faenol Festival.

0:40:530:40:58

-I didn't want to do it.

0:40:580:41:01

-I thought I'd be too nervous.

0:41:020:41:05

-We were nervous.

0:41:060:41:08

-Many years had passed

-since we'd performed together.

0:41:080:41:13

-We weren't worried

-about the chemistry of the band.

0:41:130:41:18

-In our subconscious...

0:41:180:41:21

-..we knew we still got on

-and that we'd always get on.

0:41:210:41:25

-The music worried us.

0:41:260:41:28

-Things had moved on

-over the years.

0:41:280:41:32

-We didn't know

-whether we could hack it musically.

0:41:320:41:37

-They eventually persuaded me.

0:41:380:41:41

-It was good and a lot of fun.

0:41:420:41:45

-We had a professional band

-behind us, for one thing!

0:41:460:41:50

-We didn't have to worry too much.

0:41:500:41:53

-# I'm going back

-to Blaenau Ffestiniog

0:41:530:41:57

-# Catching the first train

-out of town #

0:41:570:42:00

-In August 2002, Tebot Piws

-reformed for one night only.

0:42:000:42:04

-They performed

-to more than 3,000 people.

0:42:040:42:08

-The reaction was astounding.

0:42:080:42:12

-I'll never forget it.

0:42:120:42:16

-# A German man shouted,

-"Where are you going?"

0:42:160:42:20

-# This is what she shouted back

0:42:200:42:23

-# I'm going back

-to Blaenau Ffestiniog

0:42:240:42:27

-# Catching the first train

-out of town

0:42:270:42:31

-# I'm going back

-to Blaenau Ffestiniog

0:42:320:42:35

-# Because it's my seventh heaven #

0:42:350:42:37

-We thought it was a one-off,

-and it was brilliant.

0:42:380:42:41

-But we really enjoyed it.

0:42:420:42:44

-We realized we were still friends.

0:42:440:42:47

-We had a great time together.

0:42:480:42:50

-People asked us

-to perform here and there.

0:42:510:42:57

-We were doing more and more,

-and having fun.

0:42:590:43:02

-# The laws of England and News

-At Ten are close friends of ours

0:43:020:43:08

-# They tell us what we should do,

-they're Welsh through and through

0:43:080:43:13

-# This little country of ours

-has gone mad

0:43:160:43:18

-# Black hatred, prison and fines

0:43:190:43:22

-# Come with me

-in the middle of the night

0:43:230:43:25

-# We'll continue

-to smash down the signs

0:43:260:43:28

-# Well, yes, yes, yes, that's it

0:43:300:43:32

-# Well, yes, yes, yes, that's it

0:43:330:43:36

-# Well, yes, yes, that's it

0:43:360:43:39

-# Well, yes, yes, yes, that's it #

0:43:390:43:42

-Four years later, in 2008...

0:43:430:43:46

-..we were invited to sing in the

-Cann Office Festival in mid Wales.

0:43:470:43:52

-We had to hang around for six

-or seven hours after a soundcheck.

0:43:530:43:58

-During that time, Stan said...

0:43:590:44:02

-.."we'll be celebrating

-our 40th birthday next year."

0:44:020:44:09

-We agreed to commemorate

-this special occasion.

0:44:090:44:14

-We decided to record an album.

0:44:150:44:18

-The initial idea was to record

-an EP of four songs.

0:44:180:44:22

-I was prepared to write one song.

0:44:230:44:25

-They kept asking for more

-to fill the LP.

0:44:250:44:29

-I had to use songs

-I'd intended for other things!

0:44:290:44:33

-But it was fun. We had a great time

-recording in Bethesda.

0:44:340:44:38

-Twll Du Ifan Saer

-was Tebot Piws's first and last LP.

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-They were invited to sing at the

-Cob's 200th birthday celebrations...

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-..in Penrhyndeudraeth this year.

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-We had discussed

-packing it in for months.

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-We received this invitation.

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-I wanted it to be our final concert

-and they all agreed.

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-We're looking forward

-to this final gig.

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-I reckon it'll be quite a night.

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-CHEERS

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-# The wooden lad

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-# Is sixty-four

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-# And he has caught

-Dutch elm disease

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-# Fat Martha

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-# Is even fatter

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-# In fact, she is now obese #

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-Y Tebot Piws's influence was huge.

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-They were punk before punk.

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-They were anarchic,

-they challenged the system.

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-The stories about them

-are legendary.

0:45:490:45:52

-It doesn't matter what Dewi did with

-pigeon dirt on a Llangefni balcony.

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-It doesn't matter

-that it isn't true.

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-People like to think it's true.

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-They inspired me

-to try my hand at singing in Welsh.

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-Their contribution is remarkable.

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-They wrote lovely songs.

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-But with a composer like Ems,

-you'd expect nothing less.

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-# Lleucu Llwyd has kicked the bucket

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-# And Blaenau is still

-under the rock #

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-It's no mean feat

-to compose a folk song.

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-A song that's accepted.

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-People think Lleucu Llwyd

-is a Welsh folk song.

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-Dewi Pws of Y Tebot Piws wrote it.

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-If you remember the 1960s or 1970s,

-they say you weren't there.

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-I remember, and I was there.

-I'm glad I can remember.

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-I was around

-these great individuals.

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-Alun Sbardun Huws, Stanley Morgan

-Jones, Dewi Pws Morris...

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-..and Emyr Huws Jones.

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-We're all old now.

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-I think I've lasted alright.

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-The last few years

-with Y Tebot Piws...

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-..has been a breath of fresh air

-for me personally.

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-I'd listen out for the phone...

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-..and got excited if Sbardun texted

-because it might be a gig.

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-"Are you free?" "Yes," I'd reply,

-never mind where the gig was.

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-We've had the chance

-and we've had fun.

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-We'll still meet and have fun.

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-But we won't sing together again.

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-All good things come to an end.

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-# There are cracks in the teapot

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-# It's celebrating its 40th birthday

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-# But there are some who would say

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-# The crack was always there #

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