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-# Remember

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-# Remember #

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-We're remembering with

-one of Wales's most popular groups.

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-A group with a melodic combination

-of voices.

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-A group which has entertained

-audiences, in Wales and beyond...

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-..for almost 50 years.

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-# You have to love them,

-believe you me

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-# The country's rural buses

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-# They do their work

-with little fuss

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-# Day by day, time after time

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-# Very soon, we'll all hear tales

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-# Of the troubles of travelling

-by bus through Wales #

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-Their name and exploits

-are renowned throughout Wales.

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-They've earned great respect,

-especially in this area.

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-They join me in Llanberis -

-Hogia'r Wyddfa.

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-Take us right back to the start.

-When was the group formed?

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-Back through the mists of time.

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-We're all agreed

-that 1963 was the year...

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-..we formed a group

-called Triawd Yr Wyddfa.

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-We'd perform locally...

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-..myself on the guitar

-and the other two vocalists with me.

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-I could play three chords, if that.

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-Sometimes, we all performed

-without the guitar.

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-Did you have three?

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-Did you have three?

-

-I had three, yes.

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-As you said,

-you didn't accompany us on stage.

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-You'd strike the chord off-stage

-and run onto the stage to sing!

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-As time went by,

-we thought we should have musical...

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-..accompaniment.

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-We went over to see Vivian,

-knowing he could play the guitar.

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-He could play four chords.

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-He had five by the end!

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-That heralded the birth of the band.

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-When Vivian joined us

-to play the guitar...

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-..we wanted to add a little

-something to the accompaniment.

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-We were related to Parti Eryri,

-a local singing group.

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-We'd rehearse in Caeathro.

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-Dic Morris, Richard Morris,

-was Parti Eryri's accompanist.

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-We decided to ask Dic

-if he would accompany us...

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-..to give us something extra

-on stage.

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-We were a five-piece band

-for many years.

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-# Why do you weep

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-# Young man from Lleyn?

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-# Your eyes are tearful

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-# As you walk at dusk

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-# Death faded

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-# Her rosy complexion

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-# She lies watched by angels

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-# Dressed in white in a tomb #

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-And then, as the anchor and the

-background to everything, Llanberis.

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-Llanberis, without a doubt.

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-We were raised in Llanberis.

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-We lived within 100 yards

-of each other.

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-It made life far easier

-when we had to rehearse.

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-Llanberis is our backdrop today.

-We're so fond of the place.

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-Why don't we join them in Llanberis?

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-Sit down, you're making

-this place look untidy.

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-# Our dear Wales is so lovely

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-# No place on earth can rival this

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-# And of all the villages

-of the world

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-# One is better than all the rest

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-# Oh, it's heaven on earth,

-under the stars

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-# In the small village of Llanberis

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-# At the foot of Snowdon,

-above the lake

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-# See Ceunant Mawr

-and its foaming water

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-# A narrow stream

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-# Is gurgling a tune

-as it flows from the high mountain

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-# Oh, it's heaven on earth,

-under the stars

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-# In the small village of Llanberis

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-# Oh, it's heaven on earth,

-under the stars

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-# In the small village

-of Llanberis #

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-I was born here

-in Newton Street, Llanberis.

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-Myrddin lived just around

-the corner, around 300yds away...

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-..near the woods.

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-He was born a fortnight before me.

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-He's older than me!

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-Both of us were in the same pram.

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-Our mothers decided...

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-..because of the financial

-constraints after World War II...

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-..to buy one pram for both of us.

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-We sat facing each other,

-shouting and crying.

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-That was the beginning

-of Hogia'r Wyddfa!

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-Arwel's home

-was a very musical home.

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-Both his parents were musicians.

-His mother was an excellent singer.

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-His father had conducted choirs

-over the years...

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-..in Crosville, Caernarfon

-and so forth.

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-Arwel's father

-was in the Band of Hope with us...

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-..when we were young children.

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-We learnt the modulator - few people

-know about the modulator today...

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-..especially the younger generation.

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-That's where Hogia'r Wyddfa began.

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-As a leader of song

-in Preswylfa Chapel, Llanberis...

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-..my father taught the art

-of singing sol-fa.

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-Local children knew they could earn

-money in singing competitions.

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-The best sol-fa singer

-could win sixpence.

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-You could win a penny

-just for trying!

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-I was one of those who tried!

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-I think I was a disappointment

-to my parents.

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-They could teach others how to sing

-and advance themselves musically...

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-..but their son

-didn't advance at all!

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-I would always try my best, though.

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-To illustrate

-my father's disappointment...

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-..one night,

-he offered me a prize at home...

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-..on the understanding that I

-wouldn't compete later that evening.

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-As the years passed,

-we continued to sing together...

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-..and we found a sound

-that suited us...

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-..as we walked around Llanberis.

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-At the time, we were a bigger gang

-than just Hogia'r Wyddfa.

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-We found a bass,

-a melody and a tenor.

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-We looked at one another realizing

-we'd found a unique sound.

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-There was harmony in the singing.

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-We decided to go for it.

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-Arwel composed the melody setting

-off an amazing chain of events.

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-Myrddin would harmonize

-with tenor descant...

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-..and I would sing bass.

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-No musical score was written

-in the early days.

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-The close harmony we sang

-just fell into place.

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-I didn't necessarily sing bass

-all the time.

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-On some of the songs,

-it was closer to alto...

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-..as the harmonies were so close.

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-Myrddin would drop down

-from his tenor's voice too.

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-We focused on close harmonies.

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-# The tugboats pulled the ship

-to the deep waters

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-# And all the flags

-waved in the wind

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-# Of the hundreds there

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-# We didn't notice anyone

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-# Except for the girl

-on the quay in Rio

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-# Rio

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-# Rio #

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-I joined the trio in 1967.

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-I remember hearing a knock

-at the door. Who was there?

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-Elwyn was looking for my brother

-to play guitar for the group.

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-I told El, "El, he's at work.

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-"I'll play the guitar for you,

-if you want."

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-"OK, great. Brilliant!"

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-That's how I joined Hogia'r Wyddfa.

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-Initially, Hogia'r Wyddfa was

-a group of singers singing locally.

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-We rarely travelled

-further than Bangor...

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-..or the far reaches of the Lleyn

-Peninsula and towards Eifionydd.

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-We slowly made a name for ourselves

-and so the longer journeys began.

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-I remember visiting Rhydlewis in

-Cardiganshire for the first time.

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-It was our first time

-away from our home patch.

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-At the time, Arwel had a Mini.

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-We all travelled in the Mini.

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-The mileage of some cars

-goes around the clock.

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-Arwel's Mini went around the clock

-about five or six times!

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-Because we travelled

-so extensively...

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-..we became known

-throughout Wales.

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-Recording companies heard about us.

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-Wren Records contacted us.

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-The first record we recorded

-was in 1967 - Caru Cymru.

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-# I love every acre

-of dear old Wales #

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-It was recorded

-in Neuadd y Penrhyn, Bangor.

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-# Every mountain and summit

-covered in heather

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-# Every inlet, ravine and moor... #

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-There was great excitement

-at the time.

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-Not for us, but for the locals.

-"Ooh, Hogia'r Wyddfa are recording."

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-They'd never seen anything like it.

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-We recorded that song

-on the first record.

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-We didn't sell many.

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-We kept in touch with the charts

-and we were second to Mary Hopkin.

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-I'd heard of her!

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-The second time around...

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-..we recorded Tylluanod,

-a poem by R Williams Parry.

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-It hit the top of the charts,

-as did Caru Cymru soon afterwards.

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-When we recorded

-the second record, Tylluanod...

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-..Hogia'r Wyddfa

-became a household name.

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-The sound - to whit to woo.

-"What's this?" the people asked.

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-# To whit to woo

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-# When Glaslyn's shiny waters flow

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-# Into the twilight,

-like a sword to its sheath

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-# When the moon shines

-on the manor's windows

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-# Between the branches

-and nesting crows

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-# When slumber closes the dogs' jaws

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-# Night falls at Ynysfor

-to their echo... #

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-I first heard them

-back in the 1960s.

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-I was presenting a Saturday morning

-programme, Helo Sut Dach Chi?

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-We'd have hundreds of letters every

-week asking for Hogia'r Wyddfa.

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-Most were sent by Arwel's family

-and the people of Llanberis.

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-# From Llanfairpwll

-to the far corners of the world

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-# And many faraway cities

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-# I've swaggered many hours

-for better or for worse

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-# In my sleep I'll return each time

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-# To my cosy home

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-# Where I spent my childhood,

-halcyon days

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-# And we'll have fun

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-# With our friends

-and fair maids

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-# We'll spend our time with them

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-# We'll stay and not say

-that we'll bid farewell

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-# And let the sound of joyous song

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-# Echo through the land #

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-# Remember #

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-The people of Caernarfon...

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-..would head in only one direction

-on Sunday evenings...

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-..the chapel.

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-Seilo, Salem, Moreia, Caersalem...

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-..and many other places of worship

-attracted the masses.

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-However, a year ago, locals noticed

-a new attraction in the town.

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-It wasn't a chapel.

-It was here, in the Majestic Cinema.

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-Here, during the early 1970s...

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-..Ser Cymru concerts

-were held on Sundays.

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-Hogia'r Wyddfa topped the bill.

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-They were the stars,

-along with Tony & Aloma.

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-The venue was packed.

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-All artistes who sing at

-the Majestic perform at their best.

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-The performers conduct themselves

-in a very professional manner.

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-The atmosphere differs

-from cosy smaller concerts.

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-Every performer at the Majestic

-seems determined to impress.

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-# Like the two of us

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-# Whoa-hoa-hoa-hoa, I love you

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-# I love you so

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-# Never leave me,

-never break my heart #

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-Idris Williams,

-how do these performances differ...

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-..to a musical night

-held in a village hall?

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-I'd say that this show is far more

-professional than any other show.

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-When you go to a village hall...

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-..everyone's rushing around,

-asking, "When are we on?"

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-Here,

-everyone knows the stage order.

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-They're waiting in the wings ready

-to go on stage. There are no gaps.

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-# I'll recover in springtime #

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-I remember singing

-in the Majestic in Caernarfon.

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-Idris and Viv would organize

-the nights - Williams and Williams!

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-We'd sing Gwanwyn there.

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-Gwanwyn topped the charts

-at the time.

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-A bloke came up to me.

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-I knew him because

-I'd played football with him.

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-I wondered what he was doing there

-on a Sunday night.

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-I was more likely to see him

-in a pub or a bookie's shop.

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-He attended a concert

-on a Sunday night.

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-He asked us to sing

-about springtime.

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-"Will you sing that song about that

-bloke from Llanberis who's ill?"

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-That was his understanding...

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-..of one of the most tragic poems

-written in the Welsh language.

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-They were a bloomin' nuisance.

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-They were a nuisance because

-everything had to be perfect.

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-Arwel would say,

-"Are you sure that was right?

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-"Am I on the same level as Myrddin?"

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-Everything had to be perfect.

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-When they found that perfection,

-everything fell into place.

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-The aim for Idris and me...

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-..was to host as professional a show

-as we could...

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-..with microphones,

-a PA system, lights and so forth.

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-We were also auditioning acts

-at the Majestic, Caernarfon...

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-..the venue previously used

-for Ser Cymru concerts.

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-We were trying

-to find new talent, fresh faces...

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-..to join Hogia'r Wyddfa

-and Tony & Aloma.

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-At one time, people thought...

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-..that there was ill feeling between

-Welsh artistes but there wasn't.

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-We were good friends...

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-..with Hogia Llandegai,

-Hogia'r Deulyn and Hogia Bryngwran.

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-We followed the pop chart

-in Y Cymro every week.

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-Were we up or down?

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-Where were Perlau Taf,

-Tony & Aloma and Dafydd Iwan?

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-We were up or down the charts

-every week.

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-There was no ill feeling at all

-between us.

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-People thought that if we topped

-the charts, there'd be bad blood.

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-I'd see Hogia'r Wyddfa in concerts

-and numerous noson lawen evenings.

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-They often topped the bill,

-the group people wanted to hear.

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-I always gave them

-the same introduction.

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-We understood one another

-and I'd make some sort of joke.

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-"Who is the most popular group

-in Wales?

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-"Who does everyone want to hear?

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-"Which group fills halls and venues?

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-"That's right, but Hogia Llandegai

-can't be with us tonight!

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-"Please welcome Hogia'r Wyddfa."

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-We were one big family.

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-Hogia Llandegai, Tony & Aloma,

-Y Pelydrau, Dafydd Iwan, Huw Jones.

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-Being on the same stage as them...

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-..being backstage

-when they were on stage...

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-..was an experience and an honour.

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-Hogia Kilimanjaro.

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-He hasn't learned

-to play the guitar yet.

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-I know three chords.

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-Three chords was enough

-for Hogia'r Wyddfa for ten years!

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-These people want to hear us.

-Are you going to join us on stage?

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-I think you'd better go.

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-OK?

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-One, two, three, four.

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-# We're the boys from Kilimanjaro

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-# Who sound like crocodiles

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-# The owls have gone

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-# We're a super group

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-# Fair play to the dear old owl

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-# It was a faithful friend

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-# Croc croc croc croc

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-# Croc croc croc croc

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-# Croc croc croc croc

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-# Croc croc croc croc #

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-Early in the 1970s, I used

-to compere for Ryan and Ronnie.

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-They decided to parody

-the pop groups of the time.

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-They had to parody the most famous

-group of all - Hogia'r Wyddfa...

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-..singing Tylluanod.

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-# We are Hogia'r Wyddfa,

-we make the sound of the owl

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-# We've come far from making sounds

-like quack-bah-bah-moo-moo

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-# Believe us,

-making the sound of an owl

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-# Is more difficult

-than you'll ever know

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-# To whit to woo #

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-# A little blue tit, dear blue... #

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-The foundation of our relationship

-is the friendly banter.

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-You never belittle

-people you don't like.

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-Here's Hogia'r Wyddfa.

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-# When the wind blows

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-# And the trees

-have shed their leaves... #

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-The early part of the 1960s

-was an exciting time.

0:20:380:20:42

-Groups sprung up in just about

-every village in Wales.

0:20:420:20:46

-We found ourselves right

-in the middle...

0:20:460:20:49

-..singing Anglo-American songs

-we'd translated...

0:20:500:20:54

-..that we didn't really enjoy.

0:20:550:20:57

-At the time, we realized

-that if we wanted to be different...

0:20:570:21:01

-..we had to offer

-something different.

0:21:010:21:04

-We were the only ones

-who researched Welsh poetry.

0:21:040:21:08

-It was a sensitive area

-and controversial idea.

0:21:080:21:12

-Would our audience like the nation's

-finest poetry set to music?.

0:21:120:21:18

-It's hard to believe today...

0:21:180:21:21

-..that at the time...

0:21:210:21:23

-..people could be so strait-laced,

-blinkered and narrow-minded.

0:21:230:21:29

-They opposed the idea

-of adapting poetry for pop songs.

0:21:290:21:35

-It was such a ridiculous attitude.

0:21:370:21:39

-In essence, the work of poets...

0:21:400:21:42

-..such as Crwys, Cynan

-and Williams Parry...

0:21:430:21:46

-..was popular with ordinary people.

0:21:460:21:49

-Who wrote Y Tylluanod?

0:21:490:21:52

-Can you name the poet?

0:21:520:21:54

-Rhian?

0:21:540:21:55

-R Williams Parry.

0:21:560:21:57

-Let's sing it.

0:21:570:21:59

-# When night waits for darkness #

0:22:010:22:04

-Hogia'r Wyddfa

-re-popularized the poems.

0:22:040:22:08

-They brought them to the attention

-of thousands of people...

0:22:080:22:13

-..by combining them with pop music.

0:22:130:22:16

-Iorwerth Peate and others

-criticized them...

0:22:160:22:19

-..for lowering

-the high standing of poetry...

0:22:190:22:23

-..by setting it to pop melodies.

0:22:230:22:25

-They were judged by music critics...

0:22:250:22:28

-..who said that the melodies were

-too simple, sweet and stereotypical.

0:22:280:22:34

-In truth, the marriage

-of music and poetry worked.

0:22:340:22:38

-# She lies watched by angels

0:22:380:22:43

-# In white robes in a tomb #

0:22:430:22:51

-It was important to have

-a story behind the poetry.

0:22:530:22:58

-It added to the compositions.

0:22:590:23:01

-Let's reflect on the origins

-of the text of Aberdaron.

0:23:010:23:05

-Cynan enjoyed

-reciting the poem to audiences.

0:23:050:23:08

-"When I'm old and respectable

-with money in my pocket

0:23:080:23:12

-"All the critics dead and buried

-and everyone sings my praises."

0:23:120:23:16

-There was a hatred

-within his soul...

0:23:160:23:19

-..a resentment

-of criticism he received.

0:23:190:23:22

-I did some research and realized...

0:23:220:23:25

-..that Cynan had been badly hurt

-by the criticism he received.

0:23:250:23:31

-When I took a song to Richard

-Morris, our accompanist...

0:23:310:23:36

-..the first thing he'd ask was,

-"What's the story behind the song?"

0:23:360:23:42

-I had to tell Dic the story...

0:23:420:23:44

-..that the lyrics and melody should

-convey the sound of the waves.

0:23:450:23:50

-SOUND OF WAVES

0:23:530:23:55

-# When I'm old and respectable

0:24:030:24:06

-# With money in my pocket

0:24:070:24:10

-# All criticism over

0:24:100:24:14

-# And everyone sings my praise

0:24:140:24:18

-# I shall buy a lonely cottage

0:24:180:24:22

-# With nothing in front of its door

0:24:220:24:26

-# But the rocks of Aberdaron

0:24:260:24:30

-# And the raging waves of the sea #

0:24:300:24:33

-Many modern critics have claimed...

0:24:330:24:37

-..that Hogia'r Wyddfa

-sang during a safe period.

0:24:370:24:41

-Their songs were safe.

0:24:410:24:43

-They weren't safe, believe you me.

0:24:430:24:46

-The song means a lot to me

-but others don't like it.

0:24:470:24:51

-That's what singing

-and composing is all about.

0:24:510:24:54

-I don't expect everyone

-to appreciate my songs.

0:24:550:24:58

-Of all the concerts

-we've performed as Hogia'r Wyddfa...

0:24:580:25:03

-..including America and Canada...

0:25:030:25:06

-..and the Albert Hall in London...

0:25:060:25:09

-..the greatest experience was...

0:25:090:25:12

-..performing Cofio Cynan

-with Cwmni Theatr Cymru.

0:25:120:25:16

-# Lord, let me sleep awhile

0:25:170:25:21

-# I've tossed and turned

-through the night

0:25:230:25:28

-# My soul is troubled

0:25:280:25:32

-# Amid violence and unrest #

0:25:320:25:36

-Cynan passed away in 1970.

0:25:390:25:41

-Hogia'r Wyddfa were invited

-by Wilbert Lloyd Roberts...

0:25:420:25:45

-..to be part

-of the Cofio Cynan production.

0:25:450:25:48

-What was so remarkable

-about their contribution?

0:25:480:25:51

-Their popularity was a key factor.

0:25:520:25:56

-The melodies and the way

-the songs were presented...

0:25:560:26:01

-..were enchanting.

0:26:020:26:04

-I'll use the word "enchanting".

0:26:040:26:06

-It was enchanting and it certainly

-appealed to the audience.

0:26:060:26:10

-It tied in perfectly

-to the production...

0:26:100:26:13

-..and the different periods

-in Cynan's life.

0:26:140:26:17

-In his poem Hwiangerddi...

0:26:170:26:20

-..he writes from Macedonia.

0:26:200:26:22

-You can hear his longing

-for Carn Madryn...

0:26:220:26:26

-..and the echoes of distant breezes.

0:26:260:26:29

-It created a certain atmosphere.

0:26:290:26:31

-When Hogia'r Wyddfa sang,

-they created the perfect atmosphere.

0:26:310:26:36

-# Oh, for a breeze to lull me

0:26:360:26:41

-# From the tranquillity

-of distant Carn Madryn

0:26:410:26:45

-# To stop the guns

-roaring in my ears

0:26:450:26:52

-# And let me hear

-the melodies of happier days #

0:26:530:26:59

-.

0:27:030:27:04

-888

0:27:060:27:06

-888

-

-888

0:27:060:27:08

-# Remember #

0:27:090:27:10

-Let's look back

-at the songs and the laughter.

0:27:120:27:16

-What was the secret

-of Hogia'r Wyddfa's success?

0:27:160:27:20

-We were cheap!

0:27:200:27:22

-We were cheap because

-we could perform all night.

0:27:220:27:27

-Concert organizers didn't

-have to book additional acts.

0:27:270:27:31

-It was just us.

-They only had to pay us.

0:27:310:27:35

-Comic sketches

-were part of our act.

0:27:350:27:38

-The comedy and humour

-of the sketches...

0:27:380:27:41

-..appealed to the audiences

-of that time.

0:27:410:27:44

-It also helped us

-enhance our performances.

0:27:440:27:50

-There were tears everywhere.

0:27:500:27:52

-The songs brought a tear

-to the audience's eyes...

0:27:520:27:56

-..but they were crying with laughter

-at the sketches.

0:27:560:28:00

-We combined both elements.

0:28:000:28:02

-He doesn't like flying.

0:28:030:28:05

-Don't mention

-anything do with flying.

0:28:050:28:08

-Don't say storms, or thunder

-and lightning or turbulence.

0:28:090:28:13

-Turbulence?

0:28:130:28:14

-Turbulence?

-

-Turbulence?

0:28:140:28:16

-Drink some of this.

-It'll do you good.

0:28:210:28:24

-There's plenty of it.

0:28:240:28:26

-Thank you.

0:28:290:28:31

-Hogia'r Wyddfa are part

-of the noson lawen tradition.

0:28:340:28:38

-We all took part together.

0:28:380:28:40

-Variety was the essence

-of that entertainment tradition.

0:28:400:28:45

-The comic and the solemn.

0:28:450:28:47

-Music, recitation and sketches.

0:28:470:28:50

-Hogia'r Wyddfa

-had the whole package.

0:28:500:28:53

-Here are your crisps, darlings.

0:28:530:28:56

-Cheese and onion?

0:28:570:28:58

-Plain.

0:28:590:29:00

-Plain.

-

-Plane?

0:29:000:29:01

-A lot of people

-think they're funny...

0:29:050:29:07

-..but Hogia'r Wyddfa

-understood comedy.

0:29:080:29:11

-They understood timing. They knew

-how long a line should last.

0:29:110:29:15

-That's an all-important key factor.

0:29:160:29:18

-Don't talk about anything

-that flies.

0:29:190:29:21

-Sorry about that.

-Can I get you anything else to eat?

0:29:230:29:27

-Chips and a sausage.

0:29:270:29:30

-Jumbo.

0:29:300:29:32

-Jumbo!

0:29:320:29:34

-Sit down!

0:29:350:29:37

-There's a quarry behind me. That's

-from where the lads' humour stems.

0:29:370:29:43

-It's a type of humour...

0:29:430:29:45

-..that is obvious and superficial

-but also digs in a subtle way.

0:29:450:29:49

-It's presented with affection

0:29:500:29:51

-That's why their humour is popular.

0:29:520:29:54

-Between the quarry...

0:29:540:29:56

-..and the characters you'd meet on

-the pitch on a Saturday afternoon...

0:29:560:30:02

-..we picked up the humour -

-just like C'mon Midffild.

0:30:020:30:05

-Mei always said the script

-had been written for them.

0:30:050:30:09

-That's perfectly true.

-The script was written for us too.

0:30:090:30:13

-We picked up sayings or events...

0:30:140:30:17

-..and turned them

-into sketches for the stage.

0:30:170:30:21

-The actors are ready. Can they

-make their way to the stage?

0:30:210:30:25

-The doctor and the father.

0:30:250:30:27

-The mother and the daughter.

0:30:300:30:34

-The problem was, I was always

-the first to start laughing.

0:30:430:30:46

-I only had to look at Arwel.

0:30:470:30:51

-The giggles would start.

-Myrddin would start to laugh.

0:30:510:30:55

-He was bent over double, laughing.

0:30:550:30:57

-Elwyn would try to keep us all under

-control and keep a straight face.

0:30:570:31:02

-Sometimes, he'd be unable to do so.

0:31:030:31:05

-A short sketch would go on

-for half an hour!

0:31:050:31:08

-Time is running out.

-We'll give it one more shot.

0:31:090:31:12

-Can you speed up

-or we'll be here all night?

0:31:120:31:16

-Where is your son?

0:31:170:31:19

-This is my son.

0:31:200:31:21

-Oh.

0:31:220:31:23

-I'm sorry to say that your son

-has broken his hipo-spinalization...

0:31:400:31:45

-Who was the clown? I'm not

-looking at anyone in particular.

0:31:490:31:53

-I looked like the clown...

0:31:530:31:56

-..but ultimately,

-I was the most sensible.

0:31:560:31:59

-I had stooges either side of me.

0:32:000:32:02

-The three stooges,

-but they were the two stooges.

0:32:020:32:05

-More often than not,

-there was a woman in the sketch.

0:32:060:32:09

-Oh!

0:32:100:32:11

-For some reason, the finger

-was always pointing at me.

0:32:130:32:17

-Either they didn't want the role

-or they were impressed by my talent!

0:32:170:32:22

-I was charged with the work

-of dressing up in women's clothes!

0:32:230:32:27

-I had to change behind pianos,

-in Rhyd-ddu and so forth.

0:32:270:32:33

-You had a shapely body at the time.

0:32:330:32:35

-At the time.

0:32:360:32:36

-At the time.

-

-Not now!

0:32:360:32:38

-I wore long dresses to hide my legs!

0:32:380:32:43

-Over the years, as Hogia'r Wyddfa...

0:32:590:33:02

-..we've been fortunate to find

-two accompanists on the piano.

0:33:020:33:06

-Richard was the first accompanist.

0:33:110:33:14

-He was so gifted.

0:33:140:33:16

-He created his own unique sound

-at the start and end of the songs.

0:33:160:33:22

-When we were on stage,

-we'd lose ourselves in the music.

0:33:220:33:28

-When he accompanied a song...

0:33:280:33:30

-..though it was the same song, no

-two performances were ever the same.

0:33:300:33:35

-He would put something

-of his own character into the song.

0:33:350:33:40

-Richard was a great friend...

0:33:410:33:43

-..and an integral part

-of Hogia'r Wyddfa for many years.

0:33:430:33:48

-His health deteriorated

-and he decided to give up the role.

0:33:490:33:55

-The first time I accompanied

-Hogia'r Wyddfa...

0:33:550:33:58

-..Vivian had come over to ask me

-to become their accompanist.

0:33:580:34:03

-I couldn't believe it at the time.

0:34:030:34:06

-I was brought up

-listening to Hogia'r Wyddfa...

0:34:060:34:09

-..and they were asking me

-to be their accompanist.

0:34:100:34:13

-I was aware of Richard Morris's

-contribution. He was a hero of mine.

0:34:130:34:18

-He had a unique style.

0:34:180:34:21

-When you heard this rhythm,

-you knew Dic Huw was at the piano.

0:34:230:34:27

-Simply, this is it.

0:34:270:34:29

-Ryan Davies composed

-a very simple song...

0:34:450:34:49

-..called O Ble Gest Ti'r Ddawn?

0:34:510:34:53

-Originally, according to the copy,

-the accompaniment is very simple.

0:34:530:34:59

-And so on.

0:35:110:35:12

-But listen to Dic

-accompanying Hogia'r Wyddfa...

0:35:120:35:16

-..on O Ble Gest Ti'r Ddawn?

0:35:160:35:18

-# To make me a fool?

0:35:230:35:24

-# Well, you succeeded

0:35:250:35:26

-# Succeeded so well

0:35:260:35:31

-# What I ask you, I beg of you now

0:35:320:35:38

-# Tell me please, oh, tell me please

0:35:380:35:45

-# Just tell me how?

0:35:460:35:51

-# Just tell me how? #

0:35:510:36:00

-.

0:36:080:36:09

-888

0:36:100:36:10

-888

-

-888

0:36:100:36:12

-# Remember #

0:36:130:36:14

-Why did you decide to split up?

-How did you reach that decision?

0:36:160:36:21

-Success isn't a bed of roses.

0:36:210:36:24

-Sometimes,

-there's a price to pay for success.

0:36:240:36:27

-We made the decision...

0:36:280:36:31

-..because we'd lost control of the

-situation.

0:36:310:36:34

-Before we packed it in,

-the situation was controlling us.

0:36:350:36:38

-We never turned down

-a concert invitation...

0:36:380:36:42

-..and many

-were quite a distance from here.

0:36:420:36:45

-When we split up,

-we were in control of the situation.

0:36:450:36:50

-The three of us, the five of us,

-had full-time jobs.

0:36:500:36:55

-They were nine-to-five jobs

-for some of us.

0:36:560:37:00

-Sometimes, we'd have a concert

-in Mid Wales, or further south.

0:37:000:37:05

-We had to perform, come home

-and go to work the following day.

0:37:050:37:10

-It was bound to take its toll

-in one way or another.

0:37:110:37:16

-To be honest...

0:37:160:37:18

-It did take its toll, on our health.

0:37:180:37:21

-What frightened me

-more than anything...

0:37:220:37:24

-..and it's quite strange

-when you consider my head...

0:37:250:37:28

-..I passed out

-in a barber's shop in Caernarfon!

0:37:280:37:32

-I was taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd.

0:37:320:37:34

-I remember the yellow

-Valium tablets in the hospital.

0:37:340:37:38

-That scared me.

-That's how it affected us.

0:37:380:37:41

-We'd overdone it

-to the point of exhaustion.

0:37:410:37:45

-Curiously...

0:37:450:37:46

-..at the time we never realized

-while we kept on going and going...

0:37:460:37:51

-..that we were tiring.

0:37:510:37:52

-The body and mind were exhausted.

0:37:520:37:54

-When the day came

-to consider our future...

0:37:550:37:58

-..the choice between

-the feet and the larynx...

0:37:580:38:01

-..only then did we realize

-how it had affected our health.

0:38:040:38:08

-I was bedridden,

-I spent time in hospital.

0:38:080:38:12

-I was brought down, in the same way

-as Elwyn was taking Valium.

0:38:120:38:17

-Without the support

-of the doctors and my family...

0:38:170:38:21

-My family was very supportive

-at that time.

0:38:220:38:25

-It was strange that they were aware

-of a deterioration in my health...

0:38:250:38:31

-..though I wasn't.

0:38:310:38:33

-That's when we had problems

-as a family.

0:38:340:38:37

-Arwel's health suffered.

0:38:370:38:39

-He had constant bouts of dizziness.

0:38:390:38:43

-He was confined to bed

-for long periods.

0:38:440:38:46

-Every time he stood up,

-he felt he was going to faint.

0:38:470:38:50

-Initially, the doctors

-couldn't diagnose the problem...

0:38:500:38:55

-..but his health was deteriorating.

0:38:550:38:59

-We were very concerned.

0:38:590:39:01

-Finally, the doctors realized

-that he was struggling to cope...

0:39:010:39:06

-..after living life

-at such a fast pace.

0:39:070:39:09

-He couldn't cope with not having

-that time in his life.

0:39:100:39:13

-As long as I was busy, I was fine.

0:39:140:39:16

-When it all stopped,

-that's when I fell ill.

0:39:160:39:20

-I found myself in a situation

-I couldn't handle.

0:39:200:39:24

-I couldn't go to places

-like Caernarfon and Bangor.

0:39:240:39:29

-I couldn't speak to people.

0:39:290:39:33

-I was in a state where

-I was almost confined to my home.

0:39:330:39:38

-Following the break from singing...

0:39:430:39:46

-..ten years passed

-before we returned to the studio...

0:39:470:39:51

-..to record an LP.

0:39:510:39:53

-# Can you hear the raging storm

-over the summits of Snowdonia?

0:39:530:39:59

-# Can you feel the pain and anguish

-in your Wales today?

0:40:010:40:07

-# Can you see

-your country suffering?

0:40:070:40:11

-# Can you see the scars?

0:40:110:40:15

-# Can you see the foreign tides

-washing over your language?

0:40:150:40:21

-# The language of your homeland

-is dying out

0:40:220:40:25

-# The language of your fathers,

-the language of saints

0:40:250:40:29

-# Without your intervention

0:40:290:40:31

-# It will never be

-the language of your children #

0:40:310:40:36

-We did return.

0:40:380:40:40

-We did return.

-

-Yes!

0:40:400:40:42

-We reformed the band.

0:40:420:40:45

-People would ask us to perform

-and it was hard to refuse.

0:40:450:40:50

-We felt better by then.

0:40:500:40:52

-The majority welcomed us back.

0:40:520:40:54

-However a few cynics had a field day

-but that didn't bother us.

0:40:550:40:59

-The question posed was, how many

-farewell concerts have there been?

0:40:590:41:04

-A few bands had as many as us,

-without naming them.

0:41:040:41:08

-We received a letter inviting us

-to perform after a period of rest.

0:41:080:41:13

-We discussed it.

0:41:150:41:17

-We decide we wouldn't

-make a comeback just for 25.

0:41:170:41:21

-We decided

-to charge a ridiculous amount.

0:41:210:41:24

-It's not ridiculous

-by today's standards.

0:41:240:41:27

-At the time,

-it was ridiculous amount.

0:41:270:41:30

-It was accepted!

0:41:300:41:32

-We also decided not to perform as

-the only stage act for an evening.

0:41:320:41:36

-We'd take part in concerts.

0:41:370:41:38

-Since then, we have performed

-on stage all night...

0:41:390:41:42

-..but not as often as before.

0:41:420:41:45

-You hit the nail on the head

-with regard to the early days.

0:41:450:41:49

-The situation controlled us.

0:41:490:41:51

-We decided that we wanted

-to control the situation.

0:41:520:41:55

-The secret of their longevity

-is the fact that they're friends.

0:41:560:42:01

-They're very close friends.

0:42:010:42:03

-They always have a good word

-to say about one another.

0:42:030:42:07

-Arwel will speak fondly

-about El and Myrddin.

0:42:070:42:11

-Myrddin will do likewise.

-That's how they are.

0:42:110:42:14

-They're such close friends.

0:42:140:42:16

-The audience can sense this

-when they're on stage.

0:42:160:42:20

-They turn to one another and smile

-when they're singing.

0:42:200:42:24

-It gives a warm feeling inside.

0:42:240:42:27

-Their friendship

-is a key factor in their success.

0:42:270:42:31

-Their biggest contribution is

-popularizing, or re-popularizing...

0:42:320:42:37

-..the poetry of Cynan, Crwys...

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-..R Williams Parry,

-TH Parry-Williams and Waldo.

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-They've made the poetry accessible

-to thousands of Welsh speakers.

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-This trio appeals to the Welsh ear.

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-Three men

-singing in perfect harmony.

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-They provide the complete

-Welsh musical experience.

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-We're grateful

-to people for their support.

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-They bought our records and watched

-our television programmes.

0:43:060:43:10

-We never expected

-to become so popular as a group.

0:43:100:43:14

-People make a community.

0:43:150:43:17

-The people of our early days

-in Llanberis...

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-..and the people

-who live there today.

0:43:200:43:24

-The people who lived around us

-moulded us.

0:43:240:43:27

-These people

-gave us a start in life.

0:43:280:43:32

-The community of people

-in Llanberis moulded Hogia'r Wyddfa.

0:43:320:43:37

-We started

-with Pentre Bach Llanber...

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-..which always went down well

-in concerts...

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-..and finished off

-with Safwn Yn Y Bwlch.

0:43:440:43:46

-The audience stood on their feet

-to sing with us.

0:43:470:43:51

-They were on their feet

-ready to sing our anthem.

0:43:510:43:55

-That gave us such a thrill.

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-# Let's stand in the breach

0:44:010:44:03

-# Together we stand

0:44:040:44:07

-# Wales, our country, needs us

0:44:070:44:13

-# Dawn has broken

-after a long dark night

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-# Freedom isn't far away

0:44:200:44:26

-# Let's stand in the breach

0:44:260:44:29

-# Ready to take up the challenge

0:44:290:44:32

-# Loyal and true to Wales

0:44:320:44:38

-# Wales is in our blood

0:44:390:44:42

-# Let's defend our land

0:44:420:44:45

-# Demand our nation's freedom

0:44:450:44:51

-# United, together we'll stand

0:44:510:44:57

-# United, together we'll stand

0:44:580:45:04

-# For our language, our land

0:45:040:45:07

-# For our people, our children

0:45:070:45:10

-# United, together we'll stand

0:45:100:45:16

-# Let's stand in the breach

0:45:200:45:23

-# Hope is aflame

0:45:240:45:27

-# Our hearts filled with fire

0:45:270:45:33

-# We shall yield not an inch

0:45:330:45:36

-# Nor retreat one step

0:45:360:45:39

-# Until our nation is free

0:45:390:45:46

-# Let's stand in the breach

0:45:460:45:49

-# Let's conquer the enemy

0:45:490:45:52

-# Nothing can stand in our way

0:45:520:45:58

-# Wales is calling

0:45:580:46:02

-# Let's strive for our land

0:46:020:46:05

-# Freedom isn't far away

0:46:050:46:10

-# United, together we'll stand

0:46:110:46:18

-# United, together we'll stand

0:46:180:46:24

-# For our language, our land

0:46:240:46:27

-# For our people, our children

0:46:270:46:30

-# United, together we'll stand

0:46:300:46:36

-# United, together we'll stand

0:46:360:46:41

-# United, together we'll stand

0:46:430:46:49

-# For our language, our land

0:46:490:46:52

-# For our people, for our children

0:46:520:46:56

-# United, together

0:46:560:46:59

-# We shall stand! #

0:47:000:47:10

-The final question

-for Hogia'r Wyddfa...

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-..is when do you intend to retire?

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-If we're in good health and

-our voices are in good condition...

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-..we're aiming for the year 2013.

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-By then, we'll have been together

-for 50 years.

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-When that time comes, we'll retire.

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-Honestly!

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-# Remember

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-# Remember #

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