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issues. The show is produced by the BBC's disability strand, Ouch!, and

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he strong language. -- and it contains strong language.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the host but tonight, Sofie Hagen.

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-- your host for tonight. Thank you. Thank you very much. Hello and

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welcome to BBC Ouch! Storytelling Live. The stories we are going to be

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hearing tonight are about love and relationships, and I do have a very

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long massive relationship with my psychologist. Am I right, BBC Ouch!

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People? High five! I have been seeing him for ten years now. --

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she. She is always tried to get me out of my mental health issues. And

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that is quite a view. We have depression, we have anxiety, and

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binge eating disorder, which is the cool one. I do not you know about

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that. It is when you eat so that you can't feel anything. Write Mac

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because there is a lot of pain inside, because, you know, you can

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feel the bones, and to swallow them, and there is a lot of pain in my

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throat after a good piece of chicken... My psychologist is

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amazing. She is a very good psychologist. An incredible

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psychologist. Those who can't see me, I am fat. And that is not a bad

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thing. I like being fat. I love my body. I think everybody should love

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my body. Because... Why wouldn't you? So that means that sometimes it

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will give me advice on how to lose weight. It will be like, you need to

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stop eating sugar. I am like a cannot. Because then I will feel. I

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will feel. That is the reason I eat. So that I don't feel feelings. Eight

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have depression and anxiety. I do want to fill my feeling. My

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psychologist tried to fix as one. We were trained to deal with some of

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the feelings that I can't show, like anger. I don't know how to express

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anger. So when I do express anger, it kind of explodes, right? So she

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tried to fix that. She said to me, you know,, next time you feel angry,

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train express it. I said, oh no. I don't think that... I don't think

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there is enough food in the world for me to feel angry. I'm sorry,

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that will not happen. She said, next time you feel anger, said the words

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I am angry. I said OK, this is a new. I went from that session, I was

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very pleased with what I was about to do. I was like, I am going to go

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out and try and feel my anger, and I to train express it. I was

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practising the sentence, I am angry. Blee but it happened. I can set out

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loud. And my best friend, it she is a very optimistic and happy person.

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She is away smiling. Like, she believes in things they love... What

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an idiot, right? And she met me the station, and I hoped her. And she

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said my God, I am happy to see you. I said I was happy to see her. She

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said you were to go to dinner? I Shaw. She said what you feel like

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eating? I said I don't know. Asked. She said she wanted Greek food. And

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then I punched in the face. I punched in the face. I saw this

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happen in motion. I could just see my first... I was like I am

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expressing feelings, and my heart was like, don't do it. This is what

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we were afraid of! I saw my first just hit her stupid smiling face,

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and she never once stopped smiling. She was just like, OK, we will get

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pasta. I felt so bad. I did not know what to do. I hit my friend. I do

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want to be that kind of person. I felt bad and she was looking at me

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with her big blue eyes. I did not know what to say. And ideas that, I

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am angry. -- and I just said that. And I stopped feeling feelings for

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the rest of my life. That is somewhat of a fairytale. I would

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love to introduce you to the first person in the stage. Are you up for

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being very, very nice? Of course you are. Give it up for your first

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guest. Everyone has taken all the good disabilities. So I got left

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with dyspraxia. It is a developmental co-ordination

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disorder. It is the less sexy cousin of dyslexia, which you will have

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heard about. It largely affects motor control and speech and memory

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and information processing. What generally happens as I fall over a

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lot and cock everything out. As warning. Watch this space. I love

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living alone, because people. So my favourite activity is sitting on the

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server on my pants, watching the telly. I am all about that. I can't

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keep pets or houseplants alive, so certainly can't keep love and

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affection life. It is far too much affection to make responsibility. I

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thought about online dating. It plays on your insecurities. It is

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terrifying, because you're waiting there to meet the state, and you

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have written your profile, and you're thinking, well, maybe taking

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ten years off my age was too much. I did use flattering photos, and

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pretend that I was not actually mental. Site because of their

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worried about what they go dipping. So you're waiting to see him, and

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you are thinking his could be right. Because people are better than that.

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And in mainstream media would have us believe everybody is shallow and

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observes that how you look, but I find in my experience that real

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people will be able to see behind the method you really are, and

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realise you're a beautiful person. And like that. So is feeling buoyed

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up about it. I see him come out of the station. I clock on, and I

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thought, you minger. And with dyspraxia, I was very loud is wary

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and scary. Especially that no people, I get a bit overpowering and

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overwhelming. People get nervous around it. This is what they said.

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Obviously, it is nonsense, and I will fight anyone who says

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otherwise. But this is just a classic dyspraxia symptom. I didn't

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realise. As the ghost is this fascinating person with all these

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quirks and so interesting, but it was very upsetting to find out that

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I'm entirely 2-dimensional. Just take condition. So the state already

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looks nervous. And that is before it all comes out. Just the presentation

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alone is scaring the guy. I thought of thought we would go to the

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nearest pub. And I am stumbling over, to be over, as they do. And we

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try to get into the bouncer says you cannot come in. And the guy says you

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are too drunk, you cannot come in. I get this a lot. Not always 1-iron

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drunk. So turn to the guy and as you know, arguably bouncer, it you

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always win. -- not always when I am drunk. So I am not being gracious in

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defeat. I am just wearing a stumping off, having ago and vindicating him

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under my breath. But I thought I was looking good because I was in my

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high heels. I put them on a specially. I can't walk in high

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heels. Cannot. Cannot stand in them. But this doesn't stop me. I am in

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denial. I imagine that makes it look like some girly delicate flower, all

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sanguine and sexy. Not like the angry tractor that are usually look

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like. And evidently, we are going along and I fall. And I don't fall

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in the wet I would fall in my head. -- the way. That is how I would like

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to fall. No, I come along and stuck it on the pavement. It is just as

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terrible mess of rigging. Everybody is aware of it. My advice is don't

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start out. Just a on the ground. I have done it; is. You stay down,

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they start to worry. They think, oh, hang on. -- just stay on the ground.

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Stay on the ground. You have your pride. Stay on. So my day pics above

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the ground, and I was quite amazed he did not let it -- stoppered in

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the first place. So I go in and the landlady city bleeding everywhere,

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and comes with toilet paper to say the furniture. I am sitting there

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with blood and tissues, because that as to the ambulance of a sexy date.

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-- meals. So at this point, I am covered bed drinking and crying. --

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ambience. And I am just asking why it is happening to me. This part of

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the day, your message out. Smalltalk conversation, I can't do. I don't

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understand. I had written to use up my arm and tried to pass it off as a

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trouble to do. So I am chatting away. What do you do? Where do you

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live? Pause for response... I think, no. Every bit as scintillating as

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you might imagine. So we decided to leave, of our own volition, which is

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excellent. Not being asked to leave. So just get back home in traffic at

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all about it, watch cartoons, sit on the sofa in my pants, watching

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television. Equilibrium is restored. In a few days later, the date texts

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me and wants to see me again. Why? Why would you put yourself through

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that? What sort of person would want to experience is that all again?

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What sort of self-esteem problems do have, large? Absolutely ridiculous.

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I do know anyone who wants a go at me again. -- lad. What a loser. This

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might be the reason I been single for ten years. -- I do not know

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anyone who wants to go with me again. Thank you. You have been

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fantastic. My God, that was her first time ever on stage. I have

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slept with worse comedians than that. That was amazing. We are about

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to have another storyteller on the stage. Are you ready for that? Yes!

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Give an amazing round of applause for Mick Scarlett! Now, when I first

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discussed with the BBC ouch team what I would be talking about today,

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I asked to talk about how I met my wonderful wife, who is sitting quite

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there. -- Ouch! . This arresting her across the gas law and how I

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immediately knew she was the one for me. No, they said. No, that is

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really boring. What we want is something edgy. Sabena will push

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boundaries. And I thought, I know, I will talk about my Willy, and sex.

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Because that is edgy, isn't it? -- willy. I work up on the day my

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Germanotta level, and my legs hurt. And I fell over every, to

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understand. And embolus was called and I was rushed to hospital. It

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transpired that my spine has collapsed. Yes, it is true, you can

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break your back in your sleep. I just thought I would tell all you

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biped is that you make your day. Eventually, at out-of-hospital, and

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as you can tell, I had lost the ability to walk. -- bipeds. There

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was no more standing for me. There was also no more standing to

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attention down there. I had lost what the doctors called erectile

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function. I knew that would happen. Complete silence. I thought, that is

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aired. Game over. I thought that was it. I got really down and depressed.

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I thought, I would become the best male friend. And all my girlfriends

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would come around and do their hair and do their make-up, and I were

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dressed all up, and then I would send out on dates. Normally, with

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blokes wearing leather jackets, which is why I always wear one, they

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don't want pets, and if they are real bustards, they own a Ford

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Capri. And that was a giveaway sign that it would be bad. And then what

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would happen is that she would come back at the end of the night and

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cry. She was a he had sex with me and dumped me, why could they be

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late you? I, of course, did not see this as what I would now recognises

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a come on. I saw the thought that they would never want to be in the

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because I cannot tell. So I thought, or you, it you'll be fine excite. My

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best e-mail friends said they had met this girl, adding she is great.

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What you Country Party admit her and all of the President of course. So

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of course I was the one where the most make-up and a room. We are all

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getting along all famously. As was the fashion, back then, we played

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again. Drew Butera. We played it at every party. I don't know why

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because it always ended with a row. Normally because we'll always

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truthful or two daring, too truthful, but I thought this could

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be at. This could be my chance. I could tell my secret. Up till then,

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I had kept it quiet. My brother did not know, might parents did not

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know, even my doctor didn't. I was going to admit to Mr Floppy. What a

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sympathetic and caring? Not at first. You know when people have bad

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thing, where it is not funny any more, they are just upset. But

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eventually, my friend wiped away her tears, got her breath back, wiped

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her tears away, and likely across the head. She said we are girls, we

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don't have willies. We make love to girls and do it well. I easily had

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not worked that out. Which kind of shows how innocent I was as a

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teenager. So at the time, lesbianism and feminism were very closely

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associated, and very radical, these girls were. And they truly believe

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what was wrong with the planet was men and their wrecked function and

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penetration. All can treasure and was bad. So suddenly, I was this new

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type of man, a man who... The next revolutionary leap, according to the

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skills! They thought it was great! I really like these girls. Cool. And

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they took me under their wing. And they even made me and I'm very

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lesbian. And as to go on lesbian marches. There was me and a load of

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girls and just this bloke wearing lots of make-up and looking like boy

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George on wheels. Down with men, men are bad! And they also taught me how

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to make love to a woman like a woman. I wonder how many people out

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there are matching it with pornographic thing. No, I'm still a

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guy. They still wouldn't go near me, but they just taught me, told me,

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with words, not actions. Sadly, but there you go. And when I was telling

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the BBC about this, they said Aegerter tell you in? Even tells of

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a circus that a dinner tell us? Please tell us! Well I won't. No.

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I'm afraid I will not let you know, because that would be betraying the

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sisterhood. -- are you going to tell last? And let it as it was out. So

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girls, if you want to know it is like, you will have to make love

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dormant. That was amazing. I think everybody

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could learn from that story. Everybody. Everybody! If anybody

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wants to buy me a pint I will be at the bar. Ready for another

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storyteller? Pick your hands together and give it up for the

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amazing Sean Lucas. -- put your hands.

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Hello. So, I grew up with hearing loss. It means that essentially I

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cannot function in society without my hearing aids. The funny thing is

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that I didn't wear them until I was about 20 years old. So for the first

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20 years of my life I didn't hear much. So how did I get by? I

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essentially hung out with a lot of lovely people. I grew up in Italy,

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so, I mean... You have heard some of those people over there. I come from

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a family, we are 14 people. Everybody is really loud. You can't

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understand how loud they are. Every time I go back for Christmas I have

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to take my hearing aids off. It is just crazy. So, I had a girlfriend.

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Her name is a lease. She is the Tisch, from Newcastle, but she does

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not have a Geordie accent otherwise I would not understand what she is

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saying. She speaks very badly and moves her hands a lot. As an Italian

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I find this very attractive. The only thing is, she can speak quite

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fast. When we moved in together, communication was a little bit

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complicated. The colours she is not used to speaking to somebody who has

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hearing loss. -- because shears. So she speaks to me like have perfect

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hearing. Even if I have my hearing aids, I cannot hear 100%. If I am in

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the kitchen, cooking, and you walk into the room and start talking to

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me right away when I am not seeing you. I cannot hear, very likely,

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that the year of what you just said. Even worse, if you speak to me from

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a different room. So I had to tell Elyce, when you speak to me, don't

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cover your mouth, don't mumble, and don't speak to me from another room.

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But Elyce will forget. So I had to come up with a new strategy. So my

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strategy was, a sickly, I was going to train Elyce as if she was a dog.

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-- basically. So every time I could not hear how I would interrupter and

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tell her what she did wrong. Elyce, you didn't speak while facing me.

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Elyce, you are mumbling. And I'm annoying myself now, so imagine how

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annoying I was to her. So obviously I thought this was a great idea and

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I kept going. I took it one step further and introduced the marks on

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the wall. We had a chalkboard at home and I said, Elyce, every time

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you make a mistake, we are going to make a mark on the wall. Which

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didn't work out, because believe it or not, I realised one day that she

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wasn't a dog. What really work, we decided on a couple of ground rules.

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The first rule was that we would always speak in the same room, no

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exceptions. The second rule was the attention rule. Elyce would always

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try to get my attention first and I would always give my attention to

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her, so I would stop doing something and tune in. This worked because we

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were both relaxed and we were open to accepting criticism. It wasn't

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like I was trying to interrupter all the time. -- interrupted her. Elyce

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came up with ways of getting my attention instead of calling my name

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all the time. What she did was start using filler words. So before

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starting to speak to me she would start seeing, by the way, all, you

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know what? This was great, because it gave me the time to tune in. I

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miss much less now, but I still miss things, but a beautiful thing is

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that I don't get frustrated any more it is I know that she cares. Thank

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you. Amazing. That's so good. We have one

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more storyteller this evening. Are you up for that? You have been

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great, everybody has been great so far. The spec storyteller is

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somebody I am very proud to know. You will love him. Please start

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cheering and applauding for the amazing Harriet Dyer.

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I am wearing an outfit that sums up metal health, you are welcome.

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That's my thing. I've got bipolar and it has caused some mayhem in my

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relationships. I've got a boyfriend at the moment and he is proper, it

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is absolutely lovely. Before this understanding boyfriend, that guy I

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was seeing before had a problem with me doing stand-up comedy, beakers, I

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think, he thought it attacked his masculinity. He kept telling me that

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his job was more important and all of that. One day we were in bed and

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he was telling me how good he would be at comedy. So he was pretending

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there was a front row of women, they were women in the front row, and he

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was seen, if you do not laugh at my jokes, you are obviously lesbians.

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That is who I was dating. And then he has seen my medication, by my

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bed, and he asked what it was. I am an open book so I said what it was

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and he goes, does that mean you are going to kill me in the night? It

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didn't mean that, but if you carry on talking... The first time I

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thought I was in love I was at university and this guy, I just

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couldn't leave that somebody like him would be interested in me. --

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believe. He was so good-looking. There were signs that maybe it was

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not to be. This was a sign. Once in the bad I woke up in the middle of

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the night with a very wet back. And I thought, why is my back wet. He

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said, sorry, babe. I dreamt you were arrayed urinal. He dreamt that I was

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a urinal, and he three weed on my back in the middle of the night.

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That is not a keeper. At university there was this girl, I worshipped

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the ground she walked on. I thought she was wonderful, really strong and

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independent and funny, I really liked. So she became my best friend.

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After a while, going out with this guy, I said to my friend, something

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doesn't sit right with me. I don't trust him. She is my best friend, so

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I opened up about stuff and all of that. She said, no, this is just

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your mental health telling you this, it is all in your head. So I

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thought, all right. When I spoke to him about it he said the same thing.

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So I said, OK, that is what has happened. They were together, right?

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They were getting together. And when I properly caught them, they were

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doing the whole, yes, this is because of your childhood, Harriet,

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dissent about. It was not even what they had done, it was the fact they

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using that against me. I was livid. I was livid. They started lying to

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me, and I punched them vote in the face, but, because I am not a

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fighter, I have punched them both in the forehead, and I have broken both

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my hands. Honestly. And then, because they were such horrible

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people, that was not enough, I have gone home and then she has rang the

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police. So the next morning I am in my residence, and I get woken up why

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the police and they arrest me. So I have then been carted to a prison

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cell, they just put me on the cell with this guy, and he had one tooth,

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and he was just chatting nonsense to me. He told me he invented

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toothpaste, right? I said, what are you on about? It made me laugh,

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after all this nonsense. I have gone, mate, I don't think you did

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invent toothpaste. And he's gone, no, if you think about it. If

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somebody with lots of teeth invented toothpaste, it would be called

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teethpaste. And I thought, you can't really argue with that, really. And

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that is, honest to God, that is on my record forever. I used to do

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teaching, and that is just so sad that is on my record. Thank you ever

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so much. Cheers. Harriet Dyer! Give it up for all the stories you have

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heard tonight. You have all been lovely. Have a good night!

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There will be some chilly nights this weekend.

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There will be frost for some of us as the weekend begins,

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