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Today on Songs of Praise, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
I'm marking the 300th anniversary of the birth of Britain's | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
most famous landscape gardener, Lancelot "Capability" Brown. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
The beautiful grounds here at Ashburnham Place in Sussex | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
look so natural, but they were in fact | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
meticulously designed by this humble pioneer, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
who transformed hundreds of landscapes across the country. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
Aled is tasting beers with a biblical twist over in Sheffield. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
-Cheers. -Cheers. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:33 | |
And Claire McCollum hears from soul singer Dana Masters | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
who, when she's not leading worship at church, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
has been performing on the big stage. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
# Here we are... # | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
And just like this landscape, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
there's an array of music to inspire you. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
We've hymns that celebrate the beauty of nature. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
And we begin with this childhood favourite. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
The father of landscape gardening, Lancelot "Capability" Brown | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
began his career as a humble cabbage planter, rising to royal gardener. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
He left his mark on over 250 different English landscapes. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
His most famous surviving works include the parklands at | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Blenheim Palace, Highclere Castle, the setting for Downton Abbey, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
and Chatsworth House in Derbyshire. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
The unusual nickname of Capability | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
was given to Brown during his lifetime | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
because he would enthusiastically describe | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
the landscape as having great capability for improvement. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
His signature features include | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
the grand sweeping drive, with glimpses of the house beyond, | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
the use of imported cedars of Lebanon | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
and decorative garden buildings, like temples and follies, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
that others were quick to copy. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
He spent more than a decade overseeing the design | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
of the Ashburnham parkland and gardener Jay Ashworth has studied | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
how Brown transformed this Sussex landscape. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
One of the key elements | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
that Capability Brown used so well was water. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
There was a very small mill pond here, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
but nothing like this amazing lake | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
that he put in along with two others further up the property | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
and that's one of his classic things is to have | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
a serpentine series of lakes that you can't see the end of | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
so there's a sense of mystery, a sense of you don't know | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
what's around the corner so you want to keep walking to find out. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Yeah. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
It's incredible to think now that he did all of this | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
without machinery, without diggers. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
What a labour of love it must have been! | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
I know, absolutely. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:51 | |
There were men hand-digging these lakes out with shovels. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
I know, it's astonishing. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
And we also have records of a local man being employed | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
to bring his oxen in to puddle the clay at the bottom of the lake | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
to form a lining. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
So, what inspired Brown and what did he want to achieve? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
I think he was really inspired by the English countryside | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
that he grew up seeing and being part of and I think | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
what he was trying to achieve was an idealised version of that. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
He called himself a gardener and a placemaker. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
It wasn't just about putting a back garden in for somebody. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
It was about creating a place, a space, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
something completely different than what had gone before, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
much more inspired by the English nature and much more reflecting it, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
but a real idealised version of it. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
It does make you wonder if this love of creation that he had | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
was a fruit of his spiritual life. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Yes, I think you cannot but be amazed by creation | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
when you're working in it in the way that he did and I hope and imagine | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
that that's what he felt. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
It's certainly what I feel when I'm working here cos it's just | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
so obviously to me pointing to creation and to the creator. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
Today, a community of Christians live at Ashburnham Place | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
and thousands of visitors also come on retreat. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
But individuals can find sanctuary here, too, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
sometimes at difficult times in their lives, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
like volunteer Wendy Gregory. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
I'm not as good as you are. You seem like a natural out here. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
Oh, I think it's a work in progress! I haven't always done this. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
I was a teacher for over 20 years. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
I thought I was going to be doing that forever, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
but I had a lot of things going on - coming to terms with | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
a marriage that had broken up and learning how to be | 0:07:42 | 0:07:48 | |
a single mum and I found I just couldn't teach any more. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
I became very ill. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
It kind of came to a head where I had a complete breakdown. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:03 | |
Fortunately, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
a good friend of mine was able to phone the emergency services | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
who picked me up, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
took me to hospital where I stayed for nearly two months. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:17 | |
'A year and a half on, Wendy finds that being here | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
'has been an important part of her recovery.' | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
For me, I think just rediscovering gardening has just reminded me | 0:08:27 | 0:08:33 | |
of the little things in life and how they can anchor you | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
and just give you so much more fulfilment. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
You know, I'm somewhere between having a faith | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
that had kind of crumbled for a long, long time, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
that door was firmly closed for many years, but since working here, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
I get a sense of there being a much bigger idea out there. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
I feel very humble being part of that, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
-but I feel quite comforted by it, too. -Yeah. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
We all have things we like to do to relax, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
like being at a retreat like this one. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
But some people like to pop to the pub for a pint | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
so what if that pint came with a religious message? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Aled's in Sheffield to meet a man who's marrying his faith | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
with his passion for a good pint. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
So I see a selection of bottles in front of me here. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
It's got Jesus on the front, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:09 | |
-but they've also got biblical-esque names. -Yes. -Take us through them. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
So the core range consists of Oh Hoppy Day, Jonah and the Pale | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
and we've just done this American one called Glory, Glory - Aleluia. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
-Good work! -Thanks. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
Nick Law has been brewing Bible-inspired beers since 2014. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
I got into it a few years ago just as a way | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
of trying to express my own personal faith in Jesus | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
and bringing a passion that I love together of brewing beer | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
and I found that obviously when you start brewing beer, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
you have to put labels on it and stuff | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
so I just came up with this brand Emmanuales | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
and I just found that it was a really great conversation opener. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Is it a way of evangelising your faith, then? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
I mean, yeah, on one level, yes, but our vision is to brew beers | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
of biblical proportions and spread the good news one beer at a time. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
You've used that line before! | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
But I'm not trying to force religion down people's throats, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
yet if you find something more in that and it makes you start | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
a conversation about religion or spirituality or just love | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
and what's going on in the world, then great. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
A lot of people will say what's Christian about it? | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
Well, there is quite a large heritage in the church history | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
over thousands of years of Christians brewing beer | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
so if you think about the Trappist monks, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
they effectively industrialised the brewing of beer | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
so you get these monks in monasteries throughout Europe | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
brewing this beer to welcome pilgrims on their journeys, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
partly because it was safer to drink than drinking water | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
and partly they used it to fund the work of the monasteries. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
What do you say to those who maybe find the vision of Christ | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
on a bottle of beer offensive? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Jesus' first miracle, recorded in the Gospel of John, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
is to turn water into wine and I think one of the things that | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
I really believe is that Jesus loves everybody | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
and I love on the logo that it's the open arms. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
-It's the all-encompassing welcome of Jesus. -Right. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-I suppose we should try one, shouldn't we? -Absolutely. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
-What have I got here? -So, that's Jonah and the Pale. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
I'd better get trying. Cheers! | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
Later in the programme, we'll find out how one trainee vicar | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
came to inherit Ashburnham Place | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
and its Capability Brown-designed landscape. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
Our next hymn celebrates creation and renewal, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
comparing each new dawn to that first day in the Garden of Eden. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
Next up, Claire McCollum is catching up | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
with singer-songwriter Dana Masters. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Originally from America, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
she's made a new home in Lisburn, Northern Ireland. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
# Your love that breaks every chain... # | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Dana is one of the pastors at the Lagan Valley Vineyard Church | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
in Lisburn, County Down, but when she's not leading the worship there, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
she's performing to thousands at events like the BBC Proms. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
# And here we are, here we are | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
# In heaven, baby... # | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
Dana only moved to Northern Ireland eight years ago | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
and both she and her husband | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
were two of the founding members of the church. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
Andrew oversees the vision and direction | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
while Dana is involved with the music. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Music is obviously a very important part of the service here | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
-so what are the acoustics like? -You know, this is a warehouse. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
It wasn't built necessarily for... | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
No, it was a pet food shop so, yeah, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
it was definitely not designed with music in mind, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
although I think it works. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
It works OK, we have to just be really careful with the sound | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and how loud things are and our drum kit is in, like, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
a little cage with a top on it. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
I feel so bad for our drummer, he probably feels like a hamster, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-but, yeah, so... -It works. -Yeah. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
# I found a dream... # | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
Since coming to Northern Ireland, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
Dana's music career has taken off, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
playing with names like Sir Van Morrison. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
# When I am lonely as I can be | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
# I know that God shines his light on me... # | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
# Burning ground | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
# Please, please let it take me down... # | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
I don't think I expected any of this, really, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
when we first moved here. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
I always sort of say to people | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
my music career is sort of a happy accident. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
It's amazing, I feel super blessed. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
Do you feel God is always close to you when you're singing | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
wherever that may be? | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
It's funny because I definitely feel God with me when I'm in church, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
but there's a special way that I feel God's presence | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
when I get to do it outside of church. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Like, God isn't hiding in church buildings | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
and so when I'm in a room full of people, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
be it a dingy pub or a theatre or whatever, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
I feel a very sweet sense of God's presence. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Thank you so much. Thank you. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
# Lift every voice and sing | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
# Till earth and heaven ring | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
# Ring with the harmonies of liberty | 0:22:33 | 0:22:41 | |
# Let our rejoicing rise | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
# High as the listening skies | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
# Let it resound loud as the rolling seas | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
# Stony the road we trod | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
# Bitter the chastening rod | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
# Felt in the days when hope unborn had died | 0:23:05 | 0:23:13 | |
# Yet with a steady beat | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
# Have not our weary feet | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
# Come to the place for which our fathers sighed? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:27 | |
# Sing a song | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
# Full of the faith that the dark past has taught us | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
# Sing a song | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
# Full of the hope that the present has brought us | 0:23:41 | 0:23:48 | |
# And facing the rising sun of our new day begun | 0:23:48 | 0:23:56 | |
# Let us march on till victory is won | 0:23:56 | 0:24:04 | |
# God of our weary years | 0:24:04 | 0:24:09 | |
# God of our silent tears | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
# Thou who has brought us thus far along the way | 0:24:13 | 0:24:21 | |
# Thou who has by thy might | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
# Led us into the light | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
# Keep us forever on the path, we pray | 0:24:29 | 0:24:36 | |
# Facing the rising sun | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
# Of our new day begun | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
# Let us march on till victory is won | 0:24:45 | 0:24:53 | |
# Let us march on till victory is won. # | 0:24:53 | 0:25:04 | |
Today, visitors come to Ashburnham Place | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
here in Sussex for spiritual retreat. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
Someone who was fortunate enough to grow up in the grounds | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
designed by Capability Brown is Richard Bickersteth. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Richard, how did your father come to inherit Ashburnham Place? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
My father John Bickersteth was a trainee vicar in London | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
and he got a phone call in the middle of the night | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
saying, "You've inherited an 82-room mansion, 8,500 acres," | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
and that's the good news. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
The less good news was that he had a 70% death duty tax to pay | 0:25:43 | 0:25:50 | |
and the house was full of dry rot | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
so they said nobody will ever live in this house again. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
So, it was a pivotal moment for the house and the gardens | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-and your father had some important decisions to make. -Yeah, he did. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
He had to sell, effectively, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
the whole of the contents of the house | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
as well as half of the estate | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
in order to raise the money for the death duties | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
and he then wrestled before God for about five years | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
to work out what to do, why God had given him this house | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
when he wanted just to be a quiet vicar somewhere | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
in a nice country parish. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
-And he got his answer. -He did. By the end of those five years, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
he kept coming across verses that really spoke to him very clearly | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
from the Bible and two in particular | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
from a minor prophet called Haggai that talk about... | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
"The silver is mine and the gold is mine, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
"says the Lord God Almighty, and the glory of the latter house | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
"will be greater than the glory of the former." | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
And so my father took that as a really strong promise for him | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
in this place and so, in 1960, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
he gave the house and the 220 acres of Capability Brown grounds | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
around it to a Christian charity | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
called the Ashburnham Christian Trust | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
that he and my mother then ran for 40 years. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
And that's a big move and he did it on the 1st of April | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
cos he said it would be very foolish in the world's eyes. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
So, now, lots of people can come and enjoy this amazing space, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
but for you personally, Richard, do you often go out in it wandering? | 0:27:15 | 0:27:21 | |
I do. I love walking round the grounds and the lakes | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
and obviously I've spent many, many times walking with my father | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
and I loved doing that and now that he's gone to Heaven, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
I do the same with my heavenly father | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
and I think it's a very special place, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
not just for me but for many others - | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
a place of peace where God speaks to you through his creation, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
through this amazing ground that Capability Brown designed. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
It's just wonderful. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
There's something so peaceful about this place. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
It's been a real treat to experience the legacy | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
of Capability Brown's landscape here. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
Next week, I take to the highways and byways to talk to members | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
of the traveller and gypsy community about how they live out their faith. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
Until then, our final hymn is one of praise. Thanks for watching. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 |