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50 years ago, on October 21st, 1966, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
the eyes of the world turned to a tiny coal-mining village | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
in South Wales. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
Disaster struck suddenly this morning | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
at the small Welsh coal-mining village of Aberfan, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
near Merthyr Tydfil. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
Triggered by heavy rain, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
a fast-moving landslide of colliery waste engulfed a farm, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
a row of terraced houses, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
and classrooms here | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
where Pantglas Junior School stood. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
It was the last day before half-term holidays. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
144 people died in the disaster. 116 of them were children. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:52 | |
Never in my life have I ever seen anything like this. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
I hope that I shall never ever see anything like it again. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
'We hear from two people speaking for the first time | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
'about the day that changed their lives. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Confusion. Unbelievable. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
Everybody was standing around bewildered. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
And I joined them. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
# This is love, that Christ has died... # | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
'And we've music and song from across Wales, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
'including the Aberfan Hymn, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
performed by the Treorchy Male Voice Choir. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
The mining villages of the Welsh valleys | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
are close-knit communities, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
and that's been their strength through many tough times. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
But October 21st, 1966 | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
was a tragedy like no other. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
One of the church ministers of Aberfan, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
who lost his son that day, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
later spoke of his own enduring faith in God. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
"I am certain", he said, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
"that nothing can separate us from His love." | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
And it is with this in mind that we begin today's programme | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
with a hymn, Love Divine, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
set to sublime Welsh melody. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Half a century ago, on the day of the Aberfan disaster, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
television cameras captured a community in shock. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
One of those interviewed just hours after the tragedy | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
was Irving Penberthy. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
He was a minister here at the Zion Methodist Church. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
'What can a man in your position, a man of God, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
do in the face of a disaster like this? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
Well, I admit that I'm bewildered. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
I haven't taken it all in yet. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
All I can say is that I will be able to give comfort later on, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:24 | |
because there is a storm of sorrow | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
that is going to break on this village. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
A very close, friendly village, was Aberfan, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
and, when I went there, I felt at home right away. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
It had been raining all that week. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
Heavy rain. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
I remember setting out that morning. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
On the way, several emergency vehicles passed me. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
I didn't take much notice, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
because there were often accidents at the mines. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
And then...a thought came to me. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
"You must turn back. You must turn back." | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
Looking back, as far as I'm concerned, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
it was the voice of God. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
Confusion. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
There was scores of people like ants swarming around. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
Everyone had turned out to dig at this slurry, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
and I felt that I must stay with the people, as a minister, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
to talk with them, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
pray with them, and hold their hand. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
That's what I did. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
I think there is an air of resignation | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
which is stealing over the village - | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
an ominous quietness is descending. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
I've been able to go into quite a number of homes and pray there, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
and they've been glad of prayer. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Mr Penberthy, I think that prayer is probably the only thing | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
that any of us can rely upon this evening. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
Well, this is what everybody seems to say. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
-We're so helpless - we can't do anything but pray. -Thank you very much indeed, sir. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
It was my privilege to be at the chapel, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:05 | |
where the little bodies were brought | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
and washed by the dedicated staff in the vestry. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
This is something I have not spoken about for 50 years, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
because it stirs me so much. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
I went in with many of the fathers, one by one, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
where the little bodies were laid out on the pews, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
covered with a blanket. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
And we cried and cried and cried. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
It was no time for words. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Words failed us. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
And, as grown men, we cried without shame. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
And I cry still. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Without shame. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
I was privileged to go in with them in their darkest hour. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:05 | |
And I couldn't have done it without the Hand of God on me. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
That I do know. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:11 | |
A whole array of hearses collected the bodies | 0:08:13 | 0:08:19 | |
and took them up to the cemetery. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
I remember that our singing was tremulant. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
And much deep breathing and gulping, yes. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
But we did our best for those... | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
Those children. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
The tune of that beautiful hymn, Aberystwyth, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
was written by local lad Joseph Parry, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
who was born in nearby Merthyr Tydfil back in 1841. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
Many musicians have found | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
their inspiration and passion for music through the church. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
I certainly did, and so did our next performer, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
as David Grant found out. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Welcome to Pointless. This is the show where... | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
'Alexander Armstrong has forged a career | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
'as a prime-time quiz show host. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
'But he's also a chart-topping singer.' | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
# Are you going to Scarborough Fair? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
# Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme... # | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Did you come late to singing? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
No, I came late to comedy! | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Singing, I did from the very beginning. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Singing was what I've always done. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
I was a chorister when I was little. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
I have a theory about this. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
I think being a chorister | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
is the best route into any kind of showbiz career. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
-Why is that? -I think... | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Because you learn, at a very early age, discipline. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
You learn punctuality. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
These are very... | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
You might think they're fairly peripheral issues, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
but they are so important. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
You learn to carry a pencil at all times. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
These are things that you learn as a chorister. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
You will have learned the technique of performing, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
how to make your voice sound good, your diction... | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
You'll have learned how to polish your shoes. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
I mean, so much that you learn there which is just invaluable | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
in terms of your later career. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
So you spent years regularly singing hymns, psalms, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
songs of worship, songs of praise. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
-What effect did that have on you? -Well, I think it's a very... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
nourishing thing to be doing. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
When you leave your time as a chorister, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
I think you can't help but be familiar | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
with a certain spirituality that you get to know. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
The service that you get, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
the litany that you become very, very familiar with, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
is the ancient Book of Common Prayer. Evensong. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
As a chorister, I learned a faith that is faintly impenetrable | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
and a little bit mysterious and very ancient and ritualistic. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
I find that quite appealing. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
A lot of Evensongs will take place up and down the country | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
in cathedrals, where you have this sort of lovely acoustic, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
and a sort of sense of peace and tranquillity within a building, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
and yet, ten yards out the west door, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
there's rush-hour traffic. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
So, to you, it represents an oasis of calm? | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
It does, really, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
and I think that my faith is something | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
that I root quite firmly in that, sort of, peace. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Well, we've talked about singing... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
Now I'd really love to hear you sing. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:09 | |
-What are you going to sing for us today? -Hymn Song by Peter Skellern. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
Peter Skellern... Just the most wonderful songwriter. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
He mixed sumptuous harmonies with a beautiful lyric, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:24 | |
and wonderful textures, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
and this is a song that he's woven... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
He's woven into what is a secular song, really... | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Although, is it? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
I often wonder, as we get to the end. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
You might see what I mean. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
But he's woven "The Day Thou Gavest, Lord, Is Ended" into that, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
and it's just... It's... I can't... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
I have found myself unable to get to the end of it in the past. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
Well, I hope you get to the end today! | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
-LAUGHING: -I hope so! | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
# When like some ember I gradually fade out and die | 0:14:57 | 0:15:04 | |
# Who's going to stand there and cry? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
# Which one of my friends will know where the book ends? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
# Will know how to tell me goodbye? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
# If like some daydream, I drift through interminable sky | 0:15:19 | 0:15:26 | |
# Would it have been worth all the pain? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
# Yes, sure would | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
# And again | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
# Just like a shadow, we leave such a mark and no more | 0:15:43 | 0:15:50 | |
# Life will go on as before | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
# You've broken your heart and you've played out your part | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
# And your story don't go on any more | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
# If like some whisper that falls with the winter's first snow | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
# We're here for a moment or so | 0:16:12 | 0:16:18 | |
# Then, as dust, we go | 0:16:18 | 0:16:24 | |
# If we are numbered like some treeless leaf on the breeze | 0:16:30 | 0:16:37 | |
# Sure, we are easily pleased | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
# We hang on to existence just to cover the distance | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
# Until we are brought to our knees | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
If one drop of rain leaves more of a stain than I | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
# Should I just give up and die? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
# No, no, no... | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
# Not I | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
# When I am called to whatever is calling me home | 0:17:14 | 0:17:20 | |
# Is there a thing I have known? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
# How long have I lost | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
# If I counted the cost I could say I have possibly grown? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:35 | |
# What take I with me? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
# Nothing but this | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
# Once in a momentary kiss | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
# I found your love, alone. # | 0:17:47 | 0:17:55 | |
What better place than here, in the Land of Song, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
to tell you about next week's programme? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
The Hackney Empire in London will be the setting | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
for some soul-stirring music... | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
# Reaching! # | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
..as six top amateur choirs battle it out | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
to become BBC Songs Of Praise Gospel Choir Of The Year for 2016. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
# Yeah... # | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
You know, before I come to judge Gospel Choir Of The Year, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
I always think, "This is what I'm looking for", | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
and it is normally based on the technical things - | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
it has to have the right blend, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
it has to have the right vowel sounds, the timing, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
all of it has to be really good. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
But then, when you're sitting there, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
and you have a choir that really moves you, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
for me, that always cuts through. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
# Lord, I live...! # | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
A great Gospel choir, for me, is going to stir my soul. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
Either I'm going to leap out of my chair and want to dance, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
or I'm going to be sat in my chair weeping because I am so moved | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
by what they are doing vocally. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:16 | |
It's just got to make you a believer if you're not, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
and strengthen your faith if you are. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
Do you know what I mean? It's just got to touch your soul. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
I'm not looking for perfection. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
I'm looking for something that draws me in, tells me the story, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
but tells it truthfully, so I believe you. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
# Fills my heart...! # | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
# Oh, sweet chariot! # | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
# Praise, yeah! # | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
CHEERING | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Whoo! That's all I have to say. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
Whoo! | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
And here are last year's winners, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Birmingham Community Gospel Choir, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
with their prize-winning song. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
# Now behold the lamb | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
# Now behold the lamb | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
# Precious Lamb of God | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
# The precious Lamb of God | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
# Born into sin | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
# Born into sin | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
# That I may live again | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
-# He's the precious Lamb of God -The precious Lamb of God | 0:20:24 | 0:20:31 | |
# Holy is the Lamb | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
# Holy is the Lamb | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
# Precious Lamb of God | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
# The precious Lamb of God | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
# Why you love me so... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
# Why you love me so | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
# Lord, I shall never know | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-# He's the precious Lamb of God -The precious Lamb of God | 0:20:52 | 0:20:59 | |
# Even when I broke, broke your heart | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
# My sins tore us apart | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
# Hallelujah! | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
# Yeah, I'm standing right here | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
# In the midst of my tears | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
# And, Lord, I claim you to be the Lamb of God | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
# New life can begin, yeah | 0:21:28 | 0:21:35 | |
# For he washed away, washed away every one of my sins | 0:21:35 | 0:21:42 | |
# Who the soul sets free | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
# Truly free and deep | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
# And, Lord, I claim you to be The La-a-amb of God | 0:21:49 | 0:21:56 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE # Oh-oh-oh | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
# Oh-oh-oh-oh | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
# Oh-oh-oh Oh-oh Oh-oh | 0:22:08 | 0:22:15 | |
# Oh-oh | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
# Why you love me so | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
# Lord, I shall never know | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
# The precious Lamb of God | 0:22:26 | 0:22:33 | |
# Why you love me so | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
# Lord, I shall never know | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
# The precious Lamb of God. # | 0:22:39 | 0:22:47 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
And we're back here in Wales for our next hymn. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
Ar Hyd Y Nos is a traditional Welsh folk song, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
familiar in English as All Through The Night. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
# Holl amrantau'r ser ddywedant | 0:23:11 | 0:23:19 | |
# Ar hyd y nos | 0:23:19 | 0:23:26 | |
# Dyma'r ffordd i fro gogoniant | 0:23:26 | 0:23:33 | |
# Ar hyd y nos | 0:23:33 | 0:23:41 | |
# Golau arall yw tywyllwch | 0:23:41 | 0:23:48 | |
# I arddangos gwir brydferthwch | 0:23:48 | 0:23:55 | |
# Teulu'r nefoedd mewn tawelwch | 0:23:55 | 0:24:02 | |
# Ar hyd y nos | 0:24:02 | 0:24:09 | |
# Sleep a while and peace attend thee | 0:24:09 | 0:24:16 | |
# All through the night | 0:24:16 | 0:24:23 | |
# Guardian angels God will lend thee | 0:24:23 | 0:24:31 | |
# All through the night | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
# Soft the dreary hours are creeping | 0:24:38 | 0:24:44 | |
# Hill and vale in slumber sleeping | 0:24:44 | 0:24:52 | |
# God alone his watch is keeping | 0:24:52 | 0:24:59 | |
# All through the night. # | 0:24:59 | 0:25:06 | |
The morning was very, very misty... | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
And it was about ten past nine, I think, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
when I heard this terrific crash. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Sheila was the mother of three children, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
all at school on the day of the Aberfan disaster. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
And there was a knock at the door, and it was Pat, my middle daughter, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
who said, "Mammy, the school's fallen down... | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
"and I can't find Sharon and I can't find Gwyn." | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
So we went to the school... | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
..and the site was...terrible. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
On the top of the school steps, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Gwyn was there, in terrible shock. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
My heart was in my mouth. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
So, as a mother, when did you begin to lose hope? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
Unless you're presented with the absolute truth, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
a mother will hope for the best. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Of course. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
I kept hope going... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
until about three o'clock in the morning the next day... | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
when my husband came home and said, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
"They found Sharon." | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
And that's when I faced the fact | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
that Sharon had perished in the school. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
How tough was it for you | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
in the days and the months that followed what had happened? | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Well, it was very tough indeed, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
because I had two surviving children. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
They needed their mother more than ever, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
and the only way I could cope with it at that time | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
was that I'd wait until the others were asleep, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
and I'd come down and cry my eyes out... | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
..downstairs... | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
where nobody could see me or hear me. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
But years of crying have passed... | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
..until I can't cry any more. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
I felt that the only person I could turn to | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
was Jesus the Christ... | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
and that, at my worst...point in my life, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:39 | |
His hand was there for me. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
And that was why I could come out of it | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
and heal up to a certain point. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
But we don't heal altogether, you know, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
because we are left with the emotional scars. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
And they are very tender at this time of the year. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
How do you remember your daughter 50 years on? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
Well, I remember Sharon as a... | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
..strong, strong-willed girl, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
with a very loud voice. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
And...she was the boss of the other two, you know. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
And I miss her to this day. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Music helps us express our deepest feelings, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
and, even in times of great sorrow, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
it has the ability to lift and inspire us. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
We're going to end today's programme | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
with a hymn more than any other that's associated | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
with the enduring spirit of Wales. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 |