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Wow. York Minster, it's magnificent, isn't it? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Just a year ago, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
Libby Lane walked down this very aisle and into the history books, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
becoming the first woman bishop in the Church of England. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
So, today on Songs Of Praise, she reflects on the challenges | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
and she prepares to see herself captured on canvas. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
The real privilege has been not to be the first to open this door, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:27 | |
but then to hold it open. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
One of those following Libby is Ellie Bangay. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
She's York Minster's first female curate | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
and the youngest in the country. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
Richard Taylor is in another cathedral, Canterbury, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
exploring its links with the 12th-century Chaucer. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
And seven months after the devastating terrorist attack | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
on holiday-makers in Tunisia, I have come to hear how one survivor | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
is coming to terms with his terrifying ordeal. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
That's when I realised that I was probably going to die. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
In honour of Libby Lane's first year as a bishop, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
many of our hymns today are written and performed by women, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
and we begin with a traditional favourite by Fanny Crosby, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
brought right up-to-date with a modern accompaniment. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
And it's led by Nathan Jess. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
# Oh, whoa-oh... # | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
# Oh, whoa | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
# Whoa-oh... # | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
# Oh, whoa | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
# Whoa-oh | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
# Yeah! | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
# Oh, whoa-oh | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
# Whoa-oh | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
# Great things... # | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
The Canon of the Church of England, authorised by... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
On the 26th January 2015, in York Minster, Libby Lane was | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
consecrated as the first female bishop in the Church of England. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
It's been 12 months of new experiences, challenges | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
and a few surprises, not least when her former college | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
asked her to sit for her first portrait. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
And do you just want me to stand here like a spare part? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-Pretty much. -LAUGHTER | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
For me, it's been a year of real delight. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:54 | |
There have been a number of surprises. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
I've found myself in unexpected places - | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
standing in the middle of a field, giving prizes to the best cow | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
at the Cheshire Show. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
There's also been the opportunities that, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
quite rightly, will never be in the public profile. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
The conversations with those who have been bereaved. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
When, in July, lives were lost in an explosion at a local wood mill, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
Bishop Libby ministered to a community deeply shaken by the disaster. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
But challenges have come in many forms, and opposition to her | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
appointment was vocalised even at her consecration. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
-MAN: -No, not in the Bible! | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
With respect, Your Grace, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
I ask to speak on this absolute impediment, please. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Although I'm not unrealistic about the problems that we face, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:53 | |
I'm glad that I belong to a church that allows opposition to be voiced. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:59 | |
That we can disagree with each other | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
and still belong to one another in Christ. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
It takes some getting used to, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
that my own face is going to be recorded for ever. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
So I wanted your eye to be fed into the portrait, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
passed through her hands, her Episcopal ring, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
and through her, ultimately, to end up on her faith. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
The contribution of women to every area of life, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
throughout time, has been enormous but often undervalued. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
And, until very recently, almost entirely unrecognised publicly. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:47 | |
So, right now, I'm a little bit tense because we're about to show | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Bishop Libby the portrait for the first time. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Ready for the big reveal? | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
This is where I've got to so far. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
Tom, that is absolutely marvellous. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
-It-It looks like me, which is always a good thing. -Wonderful. That's a good start, yeah. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
-And I think it looks like I'm about to smile. -Yeah. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-Really happy. Thank you, Tom. -Pleasure. Absolute pleasure. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
'People do speak of what I'm doing as being a pioneer.' | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
But I feel like somebody who is walking in the footsteps | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
of countless women and men | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
who have actually prepared the road for me to be able to walk. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
York Minster is one of the largest Gothic cathedrals in northern Europe. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
No wonder it attracts thousands of visitors every year. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
For centuries, people have been making pilgrimages | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
to Britain's great cathedrals. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Richard Taylor, our church detective, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
is heading to Canterbury to discover more about its links with | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Chaucer and those famous pilgrims of his in The Canterbury Tales. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
In The Canterbury Tales, written in the 1380s, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
30 pilgrims meet at an inn in London | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
en route to visit the shrine of St Thomas a Becket in Canterbury. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
They're a mixed bunch - a noble knight, a worldly prioress, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
a disgusting miller and, of course, the irrepressible wife of Bath. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
They decide to travel together, and they also decide that | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
on the way, to pass the time, they will tell each other stories. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
The Canterbury Tales. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Canterbury is a couple of days' ride from London, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
and you can well imagine the pilgrims trotting along one | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
of the old pilgrim ways like this one, singing their songs | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
and telling their tales until they'd round the corner...and there it was. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
Canterbury Cathedral is an amazing sight now, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
but, back then, it must have looked like a spaceship had landed. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
Like God's own palace had fallen from Heaven to earth. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
But nothing, nothing would have prepared them | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
for what they were about to experience. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Entering the cathedral was a sensory explosion - | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
the heavy scent of the incense, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
the chanting of the monks, the brightly-painted walls | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
and the columns that seemed to stretch up to Heaven. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
They came because if they visited these holy sites, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
they thought it would get them quicker to Heaven. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
But they also came because, at most of these sites, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
they were learning that miracles were taking place. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
And, of course, if you had something wrong with you, you would want | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
to go on one of these pilgrimages to one of these holy sites | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
in the hopes that whatever was wrong with you would in fact be cured. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
And were people coming for fun? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
I know you like to think that they probably came on organised | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
package tours... | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
Erm, to a certain extent, yes. Because Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
you have this jolly band of pilgrims coming down to Canterbury | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
and there was a prize for the one that told the best tale. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Did Chaucer himself come to Canterbury? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
I don't know of any written document that says Chaucer actually came, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
but I think, as Master of the King's Works, he would have been down. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
Because so much of Canterbury Cathedral was rebuilt | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
towards the end of the 1300s. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
And Chaucer would have been here to oversee it, of course. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
If Chaucer did visit Canterbury, then he would've walked up | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
these steps, worn away by countless pilgrims through the centuries. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
And when they reach the top, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
they'd see the miracle windows shining like jewels above them. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
The windows are an amazing record, showing real pilgrims, the tomb | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
itself and some of the miracles that are said to have taken place here. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
They're like postcards from the past, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
showing you how this place really looked. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
Until, finally, they came to Thomas's tomb. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
Becket's tomb was destroyed on the orders of Henry VIII in 1538, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
and now a single candle marks the spot where it stood. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
But nothing could destroy the sense of wonder that it left with | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
the pilgrims who came here, or the traces that they left behind them. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
Or the feeling that it still leaves visitors with today. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
-MALE VOICE: -# Lift up your heads, O ye gates | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
# And be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors... # | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Choral singing is an important tradition in this country | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
and we like to celebrate | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
and encourage it in our School Choir of the Year competition. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
It features some of the country's finest young voices. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
This year, the final will be held at Sheffield City Hall, and if you'd | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
like to be part of the audience, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
there are still some tickets available. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Aled Jones will be hosting, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
and the all-important dates are Saturday the 27th | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and Sunday the 28th of February. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
To apply for your free tickets, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
contact the Songs Of Praise office by going to the website... | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Here's a taster from last year's competition. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
# O come, let us sing | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
# Sing unto the Lord | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
# Let's make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
# Come before his presence with thanksgiving in our hearts | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
# We'll make a joyful noise unto him | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
-# As we sing -Halle-lujah | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
-# As we sing -Halle-lujah | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
# For the Lord is great | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
# Greatly to be praised | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
# Praised | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
# Praised | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
# Praised | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
# For the Lord is great | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
# Greatly to be praised | 0:17:52 | 0:17:58 | |
# Praised | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
# Praised | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
# Praised | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
# O come, let us worship | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
# Bow down and worship | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
# Bow before the Lord | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
# For he is the Lord, our maker | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
# He is our God and we are his people | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
# We'll make a joyful noise unto him | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
-# As we sing -Halle-lujah | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
-# As we sing -Halle-lujah | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
-# We sing -Halle... | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-# We sing -..Lujah | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
# Hallelujah | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-# We sing -Holy | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
-# We sing -Worthy | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
# To the Lord | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
-# Power -Power! | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
-# And strength -And strength! | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
-# Belong -To you! | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
# For ever and ever | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
-# Power -Power! | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-# And strength -And strength! | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
-# Belong -To you! | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
# For ever and ever | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
-# For ever and ever -For ever and ever | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
-# For ever and ever -For ever and ever | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
# For ever and ever | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
# For ever and ever | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
# For ever and ever | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
# Amen | 0:19:19 | 0:19:26 | |
# Amen | 0:19:26 | 0:19:34 | |
# Amen! # | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
For many people, lighting a candle and saying a prayer can bring | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
great comfort during times of grief and sorrow. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Seven months ago, 38 people, including 30 British citizens, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
were murdered in a terror attack by a lone gunman in Tunisia. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
David Grant has been to hear one story from a survivor. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Last June, Colin Bidwell and his wife joined thousands of British | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
holiday-makers who jetted off for some sun, sea and relaxation. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
It was one of the best hotels I've ever stayed in in Tunisia. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
The food was great, the staff were fantastic and the weather was good. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
It was just perfectly what we wanted. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Little did Colin know that this tranquillity was about to be | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
broken in the most devastating way. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
15 Britons are now known to have died in the attack | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
on a tourist resort in Tunisia. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
And the Foreign Office says that number may well rise. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
The sound... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
I just naturally thought possibly a firework had just went off. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
And then, the second shot, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
I realised it was obviously some sort of gunfire. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
I turned and looked to my wife. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
She was already off her sunbed, running up the beach | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
and telling me to run. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
As I leant over, the first round that I felt very close to me | 0:21:04 | 0:21:10 | |
actually went underneath my arm. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
And I ran to the end of the sunbeds. I was still under fire. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
The gunman was obviously working his way through the sunbeds | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
and then that's when I had the moment that I realised | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
that I was probably going to die. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
And I ran and swum out to sea. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
It was an attack that would lead to Colin being shot twice. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
Thankfully, both Colin and his wife survived the ordeal. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
Colin soon returned to the UK | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
but found that before going home or seeing family, something drew him | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
here, to his local church, a place he had rarely visited until now. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
We drove outside the church and just creeped into the main entrance. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
And the congregation were talking about myself and my wife. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
-Really? -Yeah. It was just an incredible moment. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
They were mentioning about what had happened in Tunisia on the Friday | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
and that they were aware that possibly | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
someone from the village was involved. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
So, me and my wife just looked at each other and decided, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
you know, maybe some significance, I don't know. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
How have you resisted the temptation to hatred? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
I must admit, in the beginning, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
I did find it a little bit difficult, the first few days. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
I had quite a few questions and took myself to the local mosque. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
'When he came to see me, he was horrified, very scared.' | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
He asked me about Islam and about Muslims. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
'Well, I've understood, because it has been so fully explained,' | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
some of the things I didn't really know about culture and belief | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
and the way I feel about things. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
'It's been a great experience for me.' | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
For now, Colin is just starting his journey | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
and beginning to explore his faith. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
But the events of that day in June | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
have had a life-changing impact on him. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
So, there's something in the power of prayer. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
I believe there is a supreme being and, at this moment in time, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
I'm just seeing where this journey takes me. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
But we certainly find comfort in coming to the church, yes, we do. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
# Let your arms enfold us | 0:23:29 | 0:23:36 | |
# Through the dark of night | 0:23:37 | 0:23:44 | |
# Will your angels hold us | 0:23:44 | 0:23:51 | |
# Till we see | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
# The light? | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
# Hush | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
# Lay down your troubled mind | 0:24:15 | 0:24:21 | |
# The day has vanished | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
# And left us behind | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
# And the wind | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
# Whispering soft lullabies | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
# Will soothe | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
# So close your weary eyes | 0:24:56 | 0:25:03 | |
# Let your arms enfold us | 0:25:08 | 0:25:15 | |
# Through the dark of night | 0:25:15 | 0:25:23 | |
# Will your angels hold us | 0:25:23 | 0:25:30 | |
# Till we see | 0:25:30 | 0:25:36 | |
# The light? # | 0:25:36 | 0:25:43 | |
York Minster has been here for 800 years, and for the first time | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
in its history, they've appointed a female curate. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
At 24, Ellie Bangay is also the youngest curate in the country. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
In her first six months, she's made a big impact, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
with the help of her dog-collared friend. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
-Hi, Ellie. How are you? -Good, nice to meet you. -Nice to see you. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
And this must be George of the Minster? | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
-Yes, this is George of the Minster. -Wow! | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
-George... -George! -Come on. -Good boy. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
He's made a huge difference because he's so friendly and people | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
just want to stop and talk to him and then, by default, to me. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
Ellie, as far as first places to work go, this is spectacular. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
You must feel like pinching yourself every day? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
-Yeah, it's quite something. -And your role as a curate... -Yes. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
What does that involve here at the Minster? | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Well, being a curate is kind of like being an apprentice, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
and I can do things like baptisms and funerals. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
I can't yet do weddings or preside at Communions because that's the | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
job of a priest, which, hopefully, I will become in the next few months. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
'But there's still so much to do. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
'One of my favourite things is working across the road | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
'at the Minster School, doing assemblies there.' | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
So Jesus taught us to live in peace alongside other people, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
even when we don't agree with them. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
Ellie is part of the generation for whom women priests are the norm. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
She has only known acceptance. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
It was a different story for the Dean of York Minster, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
the Very Reverend Vivienne Faull. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
In 1994, she was one of the first women to be ordained | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
and took on those who disagreed. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
And there are certain... actually, relatively few texts, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
particularly from the New Testament, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
from the Christian Scriptures, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
which would seem to indicate that women shouldn't be in authority. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
Inevitably, it was really hurtful, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
because it felt as if it wasn't just my role that was being rejected. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
It was me, it was personal. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
Now, nearly all of the relationships I have with those who were opposed | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
are profoundly friendly because we've had to work through some very, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
very difficult questions together, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
and decide we really do disagree and we disagree quite strongly, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:16 | |
but we still love one another within the boundaries of the Church. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
And that's very important to me. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
And how does that make you, Ellie, feel? | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
Having people who've paved the way to where I am now means that | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
I've faced very little opposition. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Let us pray. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
So I'm just really grateful that it has been such a smooth transition into my job. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
Today, the church remembers Agnes, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
who was martyred at Rome in 304. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
# Just as I am... # | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
Well, that's just about it from York Minster | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
but, next week, as part of Chinese New Year, Josie d'Arby | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
is joining some Chinese Christians on a pilgrimage to some | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
little-known historic sites... | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
in Barnsley. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
But, for now, we leave you with a great gospel song | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
written by two women - Estelle Banks and Sylvana Bell. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
Thanks for watching. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 |