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Morning folks, welcome to the Daily Politics.

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Britain has committed to taking in unaccompanied minors,

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around 300 of them, from the jungle camp in Calais -

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but how many of those applying are actually under 18?

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We've waited almost 50 years for a new runway

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in the South East of England - next week the government

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will finally tell us where THEY want it to be built -

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but how many more years could it be until the bulldozers move in?

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Theresa May will face Jeremy Corbyn in their weekly clash at PMQs today.

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We'll bring it live and uninterrupted at midday.

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And why you'll have to consider Brexit if you're playing the hit

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computer game Football Manager 2017.

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All that in the next 90 minutes and with us for the duration today

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two of the most sought after players in SW1 - brought to

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you at great expense on the Westminster transfer market -

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Shadow Environment Secretary Rachael Maskell and Foreign Office

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The jungle camp and Calais is due to be demolished over the next few

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weeks by the French government and Britain has agreed to take some

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unaccompanied child migrants in the camp.

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But as photographs appeared of some of those who have already arrived

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in Britain, questions are being asked about

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18 and what checks are being made to verify their ages.

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The charity Safe Passage UK has identified 387 unaccompanied

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children in Calais with a legal right to come to Britain.

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French authorities agreed to verify the list

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and Home Secretary Amber Rudd said all of those with a legitimate claim

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result" if the UK ended up taking 300 children from the camps.

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On Monday Fourteen refugees arrived in the UK under a fast-track

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system launched to transfer vulnerable youngsters

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about the age of those arriving, with Conservative MP David Davies

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saying 'these don't look like children to me'

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If a refugee doesn't have a birth certificate,

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the Home Office has no way of independently verifying their age

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- judgements are based on their "physical appearance"

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in the year to September 2015, 65% of child refugees

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who had their age disputed were found to be over 18.

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David Davies has called for tougher tests -

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such as x-rays or dental investigations - to be used

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to establish the age of refugees coming here.

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And we are hoping to speak to David Davies later in the programme.

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Andrew. Thank you, JoCo. Tobias Ellwood, the government thought we

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were bringing in vulnerable child refugees, what happened? We are, we

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have not only programmes in place to support those who are orphaned or

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needing medical attention in Syria, bringing them to the UK... I'm

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talking about the ones in the Jungle camp in Calais. What evidence do we

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have that the once we have seen this week are unaccompanied minors? As

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you report suggests, this is difficult to check and we must make

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sure we get it right. When you think of the problems of people fleeing

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Syria it is a target that is difficult to get to. I must say that

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I'm not in support of this idea of dental processing. Dental

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organisations say this is not ethical. So how do you establish

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their age because many people think that the pictures we have seen of

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the people coming in, it's quite hard to categorise them child

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refugees. It is, it is a challenge we are facing. Our efforts are

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linking up those people caught in the camps who have a genuine reason

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to come to the UK because they have families and so forth... But you're

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getting it wrong, in the year to September 2015 there were 574

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refugees checked for age and 371 were adults! Not an isolated

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problem. The British people think that we are doing a bit, maybe not

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enough but we are doing something to help unaccompanied minors and it

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turns out that we are letting in a number of adults. Muggy it will be

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very difficult. Why have you made a mess of it? I don't agree that it is

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a mess. There is an humanitarian requirement to support the French

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when dealing with people who need help but they are keen to get out of

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the camp and into the UK and we need checks and balances in place and

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clearly they are not working as they should. It is irrelevant now, isn't

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it, because if they are in this country and they have got in on the

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basis of being unaccompanied minors and they are aged 32, there is

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nothing we can do, they will claim asylum and you can't send them back.

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That is not true... They originally come from Syria and this is why we

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are leaning into the problem in Syria itself. To prevent those

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people making that very tough decision either to stay in places

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like Alaba and be bombed or make the treacherous journey across Europe...

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If it turns out that somebody has come in on the pretence of being an

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unaccompanied minor and you find that they are anything but, I put it

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to you that you cannot return them to Syria. We cannot at the moment

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because of the humanitarian requirement to look after them. But

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the long-term objective is to turn Syria into a place where you can

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make sure that these people can safely returned. Let's not forget

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that those who have made it to Calais and the able and the

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committed. It's important to stress this. If they are coming here for a

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safe haven we should expect at some point in the feature that they were

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returned. These are talking points which do not address the issue this

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morning. It is this. Your government told the British people, we will

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bring in unaccompanied minors because these are the most

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vulnerable people, the most at risk if we don't do this, ending up in

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the sex trafficking trade, child abuse and all the rest of it. And it

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turns out that there is now? Over what you are doing. Just another

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example of why the British people do not have confidence in the British

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elite, isn't it? You are using extreme language to cover your

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argument. I am saying that we are doing the right thing but it is

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indeed difficult, as you report suggested, there will be some

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people, perhaps teenagers who came into the camp aged 17, they are now

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19, with a connection in the UK. It's it extremely difficult to get

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checks in place. But we must open our doors to those with a connection

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to the UK. It's an agreement we have with France and it's the right thing

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to do. Whether they are unaccompanied minors or not? There

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are those that are challenging the system but at the end of the date

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nobody gaining asylum for very long we'll be here forever because

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eventually we hope Syria will be in a place where they can return when

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they want to. If they get asylum they can stay here. They can't stay

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here in perpetuity. After a certain time they can. They can apply for

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it, absolutely. Lets talk to David Davies, the Tory MP who has called

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for tougher tests for unaccompanied minors. What firm evidence do you

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have that the refugees are not minors? Obviously at the moment we

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going mainly on their appearance. The government advice is that they

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must be given the benefit of the doubt, if they claim to be under the

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age of 18. I would suggest that we need to update that. There's one in

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my constituency where an Afghan national claimed to be younger than

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he was and carried out an assault. The worrying thing is that if

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someone is claiming to be a child in their 20s, they will be in a foster

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home with other children and possibly in a school with the

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children and there are child protection issues. We are on the

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same page. We all believe that there are children who need our help. I'm

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very proud of what the government is doing to try to help children... You

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are not on the same page, Tobias Ellwood is not in favour of having

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dental tests taken, dental records examined, and when you say you are

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worried about child health or child safety issues you don't have any

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evidence. You are just going on appearance. Appearance is not

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scientific, is it? You would admit that. So you think that these child

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refugees are not minors and are older than they seem. They may be.

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Some are questioning whether the pictures featured in the papers

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today are those we have accepted as unaccompanied minors. Do you accept

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that? We are all going on appearances at the moment and no one

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can be certain when it comes to appearance. If someone is clearly

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under 18 they should be given the benefit of the doubt. If there is

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uncertainty they should still be given the benefit of the doubt. A

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piece of advice needs to be changed. If we are to help genuine children

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we need to be certain that the rules are not being

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abused. I am sure Tobias would agree. It is not unreasonable to ask

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someone to take simple medical test, especially if by failing to do that

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we may put at risk children in the UK by placing them in a home with

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someone who might be much older than they appear. Leak could be in danger

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from an 18-year-old, the difference between 18 and 22 is not that fast.

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There are some people who think this is very unreasonable. The leader of

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the Green party says we should apologise and retract your comments

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because for many of these unaccompanied minors, as we are

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describing them, they have had months of gruelling journey to

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Calais, they are fleeing persecution, they have been waiting

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in grim conditions in the camp and many of them have perhaps gone over

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the age of 18 by the time the bureaucratic process has been

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exhausted and know you want them to have dental checks and x-rays.

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Nobody in Calais has to be there, they could have claimed asylum in

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France or any other country they have gone through, they are there

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because they want to be in the UK and they have decided they would

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rather be there and anywhere else. I'm not suggesting blanket dental

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checks, we already do them. I tabled written questions about it in

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February after the incident in Monmouthshire and found that between

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half and two thirds of people who have undergone those tests were

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found to have given incorrect information about their age. It is,

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and policy and was suggested by Liam Byrne ten years ago. A test that is

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used all over the world, America, Australia, what I am suggesting is

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not that controversial, merely an extension of something we already

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do. Will you please stay with us, David Davies, for this discussion.

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Diane Abbott the Shadow Home Secretary says that any age tests

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violation of human rights. A line in the sand, that is what we're talking

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about, you could be a 19 year woman, vulnerable, possibly trafficked...

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We know that young men can also be trafficked and exploited. And so

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many children have already gone missing. Why is an age test a

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violation of human rights? What I would say is, especially x-rays and

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invasive violations of young adults who have been through so much

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torment to be put through another humiliating process... Why is it

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humiliating to have an x-ray? We are looking at things like dental tests.

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These people want to be reunited with their family members after the

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trauma they have gone through and if we are talking about somebody who is

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17 or 18, we have to bring these vulnerable adults and young people

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into a place of safety... Do you agree to do and age test would be a

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violation of human rights? Standards are already in place. We have heard

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from Tobias what those tests are. Do you agree it would be a violation of

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human rights? The individual's human rights is to live in a safe place

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seat - Place of safety, it has not only been violated in their home

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where they live... The French government survey suggests that only

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5% of people in the Jungle camp come from Syria. It is more complicated

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than that. The reason why I am asking, if you think an age test is

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a violation of human rights and it isn't clear that you do, the Shadow

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Home Secretary says it is, if the British government announces to the

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British people, we are going to bring in people on the basis that

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they are unaccompanied minors, how do you establish that without an age

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test? Even the processes which David Davies lucked out not 100% accurate.

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These people have no documents to prove their date of birth. They've

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been through incredible trauma. What we should be looking at is

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vulnerability... Does that mean you don't try? I am not indicating that

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we don't try. We should though be looking at the vulnerability of

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these individuals and whether they can be reunited family members at

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what has been a chaotic time for these young people. As a country we

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have said we will bring in 20,000 people, and the government are far

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off Matt Targett at the moment. Ringing in five or six people over

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age, we don't know how many, it doesn't even compare with the 20,000

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people that the government has promised.

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Isn't it a matter of trust with the British people, that the political

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elite says to the British people, we are going to bring in some

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unaccompanied minors, the British people have in their mind a

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traumatised little boy of the Syrian bombing, with blood coming down his

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face, what a baby washed ashore on a Greek island, dead. That is what the

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British people think of with child refugees. Then they see the pictures

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of the ones who are coming and they feel cheated. They feel that you,

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the elite, haven't told the true story. Those individuals feel judged

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because they have come from a place which has torn their life, perhaps

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their family apart, their existence, and they feel judged by individuals

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because they are vulnerable, and what's important is that we provide

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the safeguarding necessary to protect those young people. I need

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to go to David Davies. You get the final word. Surely the issue is

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whether, as Rachael Maskell is saying, is whether they are

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vulnerable are not and, if they are, we are bringing people in, they are

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entitled to asylum, whatever their age. If they are vulnerable and

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under 18, is government policy to bring them in, and I support that.

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What I think is important is that the rules aren't abused. The rule is

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clear that they have to be under 18. If that is abused, it is wrong. It's

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no good arguing that, if they are 20 25, is OK. The rules are the rules.

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I want more of those young children to be brought in. There is a lack of

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women and children, the most vulnerable people coming in, and we

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all agree we need to help those people. We will see what more

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information we get as this story develops and whether these pictures

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in the paper are accurate. We haven't had them verified.

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It was in 1968 that the then Prime Minister Harold Wilson set up

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a commission to examine extra airport capacity in

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I laughed because it is 50 years ago.

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Now, nearly 50 years later, we're being told the Government

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will inform us where they would like a new runway to be

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Although don't expect to see a bulldozer in action any time soon.

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There will then be what's been called a "full and fair" public

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consultation before MPs vote in the winter of 2017/18 -

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and we know how good they are at making decisions.

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Yesterday, we learnt that Theresa May will pilot a special

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Cabinet sub-committee on the question of airport

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On board are eight members of her Cabinet, including the Chancellor,

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Initially other Cabinet Ministers would not be forced to support

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the Government's position, so Education Secretary Justine

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Greening and Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson,

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who have long been opposed to another runway at Heathrow,

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would be "able to express their views for a limited time"

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though they won't be able to speak out in parliament or openly protest.

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50 years on, and government are still bottling it. I don't think

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that's correct. You are right to put it in context. We do need extra

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airport capacity. Where is it going to be? People have to circle before

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landing at Heathrow and Gatwick. I think Patrick McLoughlin made it

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clear as Transport Secretary what the timetable was. What we see in

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the media today saying that things have been delayed further is

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incorrect. An announcement will be made next week but then there is the

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national planning framework, a legal concentration that has to last a

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year. Proposal is put forward and people get an opportunity to respond

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to it. That was laid out by Patrick McLoughlin. That is what process

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starts next week. In response to the Davies commission. We are on the

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timetable. If there has been any delay, turning to labour twice under

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Labour it was kicked down the road when there was an opportunity. David

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Cameron took six years to make a decision. I really think that the

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viewers, throwing mud at each other on this issue when you are both

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culpable... Who set in 2008, the government is clearly give the ring

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on Heathrow expansion. You said that. The plan we have put into

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place now, with this announcement next week in Parliament, is

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according to the plan. It was Theresa May who said it and she is

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dithering again. We are on track. It must be taken into consideration

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with the nation's needs. That was the Davies commission. Which has

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just reported. Former Tory party chairman Grant Shapps says Theresa

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May, she is failing to show guts with a quick decision. We have a

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decision next week and spent a year's consultation. We have to do

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it. We can't just send the bulldozers in next week. It would be

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illegal. The plan we are following is the timetable that was announced

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in the past. You can't send the bulldozers in until you get planning

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permission, which could take more than a year. There has to be a legal

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response. That process takes a year and that is the timetable we are

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following. What is Labour's policy? We set out four play-test and we

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stuck to them and we will be applying them through the process.

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-- Ball clear tests. The issue around capacity is to be at the

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forefront. What is your policy? That is what I am explaining. We are

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running through the four tests to insure that we address climate

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change and the admissions process, and that will depend on the option

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chosen, the impact on noise and also collectivity. Where do you want the

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runway? -- collectivity. That is what we are waiting to see. But

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since 1968 and you don't have a policy? With respect, the world has

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changed. If we look at aerospace capacity, things can move on

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considerably in terms of how we stack planes, how they are waiting

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at 7000 beat when they should be at 30,000 feet and not polluting the

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atmosphere. A whole infrastructure has been built around this. Are you

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going to stack up claims to 30,000 feet? That is more fuel efficient.

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They have to come all the way back down again. They are coming from

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that height anyway. They could stay over BC and be at a more fuel

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efficient height. -- over the sea. That would make London really

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attractive, all of those people wanting to invest, stack at 30,000

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feet, going round in circles when they could lead right away at

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Frankfurt, Paris. They are stacked at 7000 feet. The argument is that

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we need another runway. That is the Davies commission argument. We need

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to use airspace more efficiently than we do. You are shadow -- your

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Shadow Transport Secretary supports Heathrow. Sadiq Khan supports

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Gatwick. I ask again, what is Labour policy? We have got people with

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constituency issues. They are building it in John McDonnell's

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constituency. He is against it. It is right that MPs scrutinise

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government proposals. I've presumed that Heathrow was the policy. It is

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right that we look at capacity issues and scrutinise what the

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government comes forward with. The government had promised us the

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environmental impact assessment it is carrying out. We haven't seen

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that. It is vital that we do. 50,000 people are dying prematurely in our

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as a result of poor air quality. That is a national scandal. So maybe

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you should oppose a new runway. We are going to see a different

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transport system by the time the first bulldozer goes in. So why not

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oppose a new runway? You have to look at it strategically. So you

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could oppose a new runway. You have to look at the tests. If the

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government fails a new test and brings more pollutant Crewe to the

:24:11.:24:15.

environment, we will send them back to do their work. So when Andy

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McDonnell says the need for more capacity is imperative and

:24:22.:24:24.

overwhelming, but you could still oppose a new runway. How can it be

:24:25.:24:28.

imperative and overwhelming to have more capacity but you say we might

:24:29.:24:33.

oppose it? We don't want to pollute the lungs of the people of London.

:24:34.:24:38.

Clearly the plans would not be affected. So it isn't imperative and

:24:39.:24:43.

overwhelming. Labour need to come to terms with the fact that we need a

:24:44.:24:49.

new runway. We have agreed we need more capacity. Not having a runway

:24:50.:24:55.

wouldn't satisfy the needs. We will leave it there. It only been going

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on for 50 years still as clear as mud.

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Now, do you know Boris Johnson speaks five foreign languages?

:25:01.:25:03.

Yes, he's not too rusty in Latin, French, Spanish, Italian

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and German though English is still a bit of a struggle.

:25:06.:25:08.

Anyway, languages are a useful skill in a Foreign

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It will certainly help him on trips abroad.

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Rather than just shouting slowly at foreigners in England and thinking

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they will understand. -- in English. But, yesterday, Boris Johnson,

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the Foreign Secretary in Her Majesty's Government, spoke

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Yes, Prime Minister's And that's not all -

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Laura Kuenssberg is here. Welcome, Laura. On the Heathrow

:28:01.:28:12.

issue, we are proceeding on the assumption there is going to be a

:28:13.:28:17.

third runway at Heathrow at the minimum, but we also thought there

:28:18.:28:20.

would be a vote on that, and the whole business of this year means

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there won't be. This is what has got people in a tangle. Technically, it

:28:27.:28:29.

isn't a delay because there was always going to be a legalistic

:28:30.:28:33.

planning process, a piece of paper to the House of Commons, it was

:28:34.:28:37.

always going to take a year. However, there was a very clear

:28:38.:28:41.

expectation across Westminster, even among some people who know this area

:28:42.:28:46.

very well, that there would be a vote very swiftly after the Cabinet

:28:47.:28:50.

committee's crunch decision. That will now not take place, so

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therefore, crucially, the political sign of as absolutely been delayed,

:28:56.:29:00.

and that is what has got some people upset and feeling that Theresa May

:29:01.:29:04.

is fudged it. That it could change. There is also conspiracy theories,

:29:05.:29:09.

that this could be more evidence that Theresa May would like the

:29:10.:29:13.

option of going for a spring election, because you wouldn't want

:29:14.:29:17.

to have Heathrow and issue that could be awkward for the Tory party

:29:18.:29:22.

lingering at a time where you want... That is always denied by

:29:23.:29:27.

anybody close to Theresa May, but it has the air of something that is a

:29:28.:29:32.

bit shaky. What about these stories last week that the government may,

:29:33.:29:37.

in its Britain open for business guys, say that Gatwick should have a

:29:38.:29:40.

second runway as well, largely a private sector investment forced why

:29:41.:29:48.

not expand the big regional airports like Birmingham? And there were

:29:49.:29:51.

suggestions around the fringes of the Tory conference that that would

:29:52.:29:54.

have been something that would have been a green flag to investors, come

:29:55.:29:58.

here, we need to be flying around the. Those suggestions, I think, are

:29:59.:30:04.

still in the play in the longer term but they won't be attached to this

:30:05.:30:10.

particular decision. I'm not sure that they ever were. Perhaps some

:30:11.:30:14.

over exuberance around the fringes where people want to see that kind

:30:15.:30:17.

of strong statement from the government. But not necessarily

:30:18.:30:24.

going to happen. What is Mr Corbyn going to go on? Who knows? There is

:30:25.:30:33.

so much around. Not easy to see a direct hit subject. Indeed. We saw

:30:34.:30:36.

Jeremy Corbyn do something last week, taking the August issue of the

:30:37.:30:41.

day and asking all six questions on Brexit. -- the biggest issue. This

:30:42.:30:47.

week it is hard to see a direct it. It's looking -- were looking for

:30:48.:30:52.

questions from the backbenches, Lisa Nandy, asking Theresa May about the

:30:53.:30:59.

God of enquiry. This is a potential big political enquiry in terms of

:31:00.:31:03.

what is happening with the child abuse enquiry, not just because it

:31:04.:31:08.

has been so messy but because it was Theresa May who instituted this

:31:09.:31:11.

enquiry when she was Home Secretary. Lisa Nandy's question might be worth

:31:12.:31:18.

looking out for, and some other Labour as well, Lucy Powell poor

:31:19.:31:21.

example. With Jeremy Corbyn, it isn't clear what he will go on.

:31:22.:31:27.

Possibly health spending. There was a story yesterday, the cost of the

:31:28.:31:31.

health service. Despite increases in funding, which the government likes

:31:32.:31:36.

to trumpet, for the first time in recent history, the amount spent per

:31:37.:31:42.

patient will be going down. And that is politically charged. That was

:31:43.:31:50.

interesting, that statistic. An interesting situation. Labour has a

:31:51.:31:56.

new Shadow Health Secretary, John Ashworth. Jeremy Corbyn might want

:31:57.:32:00.

to pick it up. It is clear when you take Heathrow, the health service,

:32:01.:32:05.

the Lowell Goddard enquiry farce, if that isn't too strong a word, that

:32:06.:32:11.

Mrs May's honeymoon is over. In the last few days, lots of politicians

:32:12.:32:18.

have said you can pick up a general shakiness about the place, not a

:32:19.:32:21.

time of doom and disaster, not the government having a terrible mess

:32:22.:32:28.

all over the place, but Theresa May's brand of competence,

:32:29.:32:31.

diligence, getting on with the job, the phrase she likes to use, it

:32:32.:32:36.

seems a bit shaky. We will see how shaky it is.

:32:37.:32:45.

Thank you, Mr Speaker, I know everyone will want to join me in

:32:46.:32:58.

remembering those affected by Aberfan in which 116 children lost

:32:59.:33:02.

their lives. It caused devastation to the community, it is like that

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would reflect on this important anniversary and recognise the

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solidarity and resilience of the people of Aberfan to overcome this

:33:11.:33:14.

tragedy. Mr Speaker this morning I had meetings with ministerial

:33:15.:33:17.

colleagues and others and I will have further such meetings today in

:33:18.:33:24.

addition to my duties in this House. Mr Speaker, may I associate myself

:33:25.:33:29.

with the sentiments of the Prime Minister, I am of an age to remember

:33:30.:33:33.

those black and white photographs, it affected everyone and we in this

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House Basson our thoughts today. Mr Speaker, as you might know it is my

:33:39.:33:43.

birthday today! The Prime Minister has already given me a huge birthday

:33:44.:33:47.

present by letting everyone know that we will be at the European

:33:48.:33:54.

union no later than March 31 2019. So could I press her for another

:33:55.:34:01.

present? Her excellent policy of closing Victorian prisons and

:34:02.:34:06.

opening modern ones is a spot on policy. Would she support the

:34:07.:34:14.

reopening of Wellingborough prison, as part of this excellent programme,

:34:15.:34:22.

or would she rather just think Happy Birthday? I'm very happy to wish my

:34:23.:34:27.

honourable friend happy birthday, I hope that Mrs Bone is going to treat

:34:28.:34:38.

the occasion in an appropriate manner!

:34:39.:34:46.

LAUGHTER Can I... Come out...

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LAUGHTER Order! I want to hear what is coming

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next! Prime Minister. Calm down, Mr Speaker! On the issue that he

:35:03.:35:08.

raises, the very serious issue he raises about prisons, I welcome the

:35:09.:35:15.

fact that he applauds the policy that we are following of closing out

:35:16.:35:19.

of date prisons and building new prisons. I hear the lobbying he's

:35:20.:35:23.

made in relation to Wellingborough, I assure him that it is one of those

:35:24.:35:28.

sites being considered but the Secretary of State will look at this

:35:29.:35:31.

very carefully and make an announcement in due course. Jeremy

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Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I join with the Prime Minister in

:35:39.:35:42.

commemorating the disaster of Aberfan all those years ago when 118

:35:43.:35:47.

children died, along with many adults at that time. Many in that

:35:48.:35:51.

community are still living with that tragedy and they will live with that

:35:52.:35:55.

tragedy for the rest of their days. I remember it well as a young person

:35:56.:36:00.

growing up at that time and watching collections for the disaster fund. I

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think the BBC documentary presented by Hugh Edwards last night was

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brilliant and poignant and serves to remind us all of what the disaster

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was about. Mr Speaker, one in four of us will suffer mental health

:36:16.:36:19.

problem, analysis by the Kings fund suggests that 40% of mental health

:36:20.:36:23.

trusts had their budgets cut last year and six have seen their budgets

:36:24.:36:29.

cut for three years in a row. As the Prime Minister really confident that

:36:30.:36:35.

we are delivering parity for mental health? May I first say to the right

:36:36.:36:39.

honourable gentleman that I am also of an age where I remember those

:36:40.:36:43.

terrible scenes on television of what happened in Aberfan. I did not

:36:44.:36:50.

see the whole of the documentary by Huw Edwards but the bits I saw I

:36:51.:36:53.

thought were very poignant as the right honourable gentleman said. And

:36:54.:36:57.

it is interesting that it showed again the issue of those in power

:36:58.:37:01.

not being willing to step up to the plate initially, and accept what had

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happened. Obviously the result of the enquiry was very clear about

:37:08.:37:12.

where responsibility lay. In relation to the mental health

:37:13.:37:16.

services it is right that we are introducing parity of esteem for

:37:17.:37:19.

mental health in the National Health Service. We have been waiting to

:37:20.:37:23.

come at long for this. It is important that it is being done. But

:37:24.:37:29.

we are investing more in mental health services, an estimated record

:37:30.:37:33.

?11.7 billion. Particularly increasing the number of children's

:37:34.:37:37.

beds overall to the highest number in relation to mental health

:37:38.:37:41.

problems. I think this is important. There is of course more for us to do

:37:42.:37:46.

in looking at mental health but we have made an important start and

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that funding will be there, as I say. Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker, I

:37:50.:37:56.

have a letter from Colin, a family member office has a chronic mental

:37:57.:37:59.

health condition and he like many others with relatives going through

:38:00.:38:04.

this kind of crisis says this, the NHS is so dramatically underfunded

:38:05.:38:09.

that so often it is left to the underfunded police forces to deal

:38:10.:38:12.

with the consequence of this crisis. Indeed achieve Constable of Devon

:38:13.:38:16.

and Cornwall as this month threatened legal action against the

:38:17.:38:21.

NHS because he is forced to hold people with mental conditions in

:38:22.:38:25.

police cells because there are not enough and beds. I simply ask the

:38:26.:38:30.

Prime Minister this. If the government is committed to parity of

:38:31.:38:34.

esteem why is this trust and so many others facing an acute financial

:38:35.:38:40.

crisis at present? Prime Minister. Can I say to Colin and that we all

:38:41.:38:44.

in this House recognise the difficulty that people have when

:38:45.:38:49.

they are coping with mental health problems and, I commend those in

:38:50.:38:53.

this house who have been prepared to stand up and referred to their own

:38:54.:38:57.

mental health problems. That has been an important signal to people

:38:58.:39:01.

with mental health issues across the country. He raises the question of

:39:02.:39:05.

the interaction between the NHS and police forces. I'm very proud of the

:39:06.:39:09.

fact that when I was secretary I worked with the Department of Health

:39:10.:39:12.

to bring a change to the way in which police forces were dealing

:39:13.:39:22.

with people in mental health prices so that we see those triage pilots

:39:23.:39:25.

out on the street, we see better NHS support being given to police forces

:39:26.:39:28.

so the number of people who are having to be taken to a police cell

:39:29.:39:32.

is a place of safety in some areas, overall it has more than halved, in

:39:33.:39:36.

some areas it has come down by even more than that. This is a result of

:39:37.:39:40.

the action that this government has taken. Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker the

:39:41.:39:47.

reality is that no one with a mental health condition should ever be

:39:48.:39:50.

taken to a police cell. They should be supported in the proper way. I do

:39:51.:39:55.

commend those Police and Crime Commissioner 's that have ended that

:39:56.:39:59.

practice in the areas but the reality is that it isn't just Devon

:40:00.:40:03.

and Cornwall suffering cuts, Norfolk and Suffolk mental health trust has

:40:04.:40:07.

had a cut for every one of its last three years and I agree with the

:40:08.:40:13.

Prime Minister that members of this House openly discussing mental

:40:14.:40:15.

health issues they have had is a great thing because we do need to

:40:16.:40:21.

end the stigma surrounding these conditions across the whole country.

:40:22.:40:26.

But NHS trusts are in a financial crisis. According to NHS providers

:40:27.:40:32.

it seems to be the worst financial crisis in NHS history, 80% of

:40:33.:40:36.

hospitals no endeavours that. There was a time in 2010 when the NHS was

:40:37.:40:46.

in surplus. What has happened? The Prime Minister. I would like to

:40:47.:40:49.

remind him that what has happened with NHS funding is this. We asked

:40:50.:40:56.

the NHS themselves to come up with a five-year plan and say what extra

:40:57.:41:00.

funding was needed to deliver on it. They came up with a five-year plan

:41:01.:41:04.

led by Simon Stevens as chief executive of the NHS. He said it was

:41:05.:41:08.

?8 billion that was needed and we are giving ?10 billion of extra

:41:09.:41:14.

funding to the and adjust. And I might remind the right honourable

:41:15.:41:20.

gentleman that, at the last election, it wasn't the Conservative

:41:21.:41:23.

Party that was refusing to guarantee funding for the NHS, it was the

:41:24.:41:32.

Labour Party! Mr Speaker come in six years, the NHS has gone from surplus

:41:33.:41:39.

to its worst crisis. ?3 billion was wasted on top-down reorganisation

:41:40.:41:46.

and no one wanted and yesterday at the select committee Simon Stevens

:41:47.:41:49.

made it clear that he does not believe that NHS England has enough

:41:50.:41:52.

money to get through the crisis it is facing. Can I offer an analysis

:41:53.:41:59.

from the Care Quality Commission which seemed to have quite a good

:42:00.:42:02.

grasp of what's happening. They save at cuts to adult social care, and I

:42:03.:42:10.

quote, translating to increased A E attendances, emergency missions

:42:11.:42:13.

and delays to people leaving hospital which in turn is affecting

:42:14.:42:17.

the ability of a growing number of trusts to meet their performances

:42:18.:42:21.

and their natural targets, will the Prime Minister also addressed the

:42:22.:42:29.

reckless, counter-productive cuts made. You could Simon Stevens. The

:42:30.:42:38.

time of the Autumn Statement last November he said that their case for

:42:39.:42:42.

the NHS had been hurt actively supported. The right honourable

:42:43.:42:45.

gentleman raises the question of social care and the interaction

:42:46.:42:51.

between health and social care. Over ?5 billion extra was put into the

:42:52.:42:55.

better care of and precisely to deal with these issues. Local authorities

:42:56.:43:00.

are able to raise about 2% of council tax to deal with social care

:43:01.:43:06.

costs that they face. But what is important is the health service and

:43:07.:43:10.

local authorities working together to ensure that they are delivering

:43:11.:43:14.

the best possible service for people who require that social care. I saw

:43:15.:43:19.

a good example of that at Salford Royal on Monday. I want to see more

:43:20.:43:25.

such examples across the NHS, delivering for patients. We have put

:43:26.:43:28.

the funding in. His party would not have done that. We have seen better

:43:29.:43:37.

care for patient Mikes. We all want the government and the local NHS to

:43:38.:43:41.

work well together but the problem is that local government funding has

:43:42.:43:46.

been cut, 400,000 fewer people are receiving publicly funded social

:43:47.:43:50.

care as a consequence, the NHS is having trouble coping with the

:43:51.:43:55.

crisis, therefore, unfortunately there is bed blocking, where acute

:43:56.:43:59.

patients cannot leave because there is no social care available for them

:44:00.:44:02.

down the line. The issue is the funding crisis in the NHS and in

:44:03.:44:08.

local government. The published figures by the NHS Trust show that

:44:09.:44:13.

the total deficit is 2.45 billion but the chief executive says this

:44:14.:44:20.

figure may even be bigger. The government disguises the extent of

:44:21.:44:22.

the crisis through temporary bailouts. They are bailing out, and

:44:23.:44:37.

trust in a crisis, that is not a bad thing but why are they in a crisis

:44:38.:44:43.

in the first place? -- bailing out of trust in a crisis. Next month, Mr

:44:44.:44:48.

Speaker, sustainability and transformation plans are going be

:44:49.:44:54.

published. Many, all over the country, are alarmed by this,

:44:55.:44:58.

because of the threat to accident and emergency departments. Can the

:44:59.:45:03.

Prime Minister deal with this issue now by simply saying there will be

:45:04.:45:11.

no downgrades and no closures of A E departments in the statement next

:45:12.:45:12.

month? Over the course of this Parliament,

:45:13.:45:22.

the government will be spending over half ?1 trillion on the NHS. That is

:45:23.:45:28.

a record level of investment in our National Health Service. But there

:45:29.:45:32.

is a key difference between the way he approaches this and the way that

:45:33.:45:36.

I do. We believe on this side of the house that, at local level, people

:45:37.:45:40.

should be able to make decisions about the NHS, that decisions should

:45:41.:45:45.

be led by clinicians, that it shouldn't be top-down, which is a

:45:46.:45:49.

prep -- which is typical of the Labour Party. Well, Mr Speaker,

:45:50.:46:02.

top-down is what we got. And it cost ?3 billion for a reorganisation that

:46:03.:46:07.

nobody wanted at all. Mr Speaker, I started by asking the Prime Minister

:46:08.:46:11.

about parity of esteem. All this government has produced is parity of

:46:12.:46:18.

failure. Failing mental health patients, failing elderly people who

:46:19.:46:22.

need social care, failing the 4 million on the NHS waiting list,

:46:23.:46:26.

wailing five times as many people waiting more than four hours at A

:46:27.:46:32.

departments, and another winter crisis is looming. The society of

:46:33.:46:37.

acute medicines is it right, I think, when it says, this funding

:46:38.:46:41.

crisis and the local government funding crisis is leaving the NHS on

:46:42.:46:49.

its knees. What has happened in the NHS over the last six years? More

:46:50.:46:55.

patients being treated, more calls to the Ambulance Service, more

:46:56.:46:58.

operations, more doctors, more nurses. That is what has been

:46:59.:47:04.

happening in the NHS. But let's just look at what his party's approach to

:47:05.:47:08.

the NHS is. A former Shadow Health Secretary said, it would be

:47:09.:47:13.

irresponsible to put more money into the NHS. A former leader of the

:47:14.:47:19.

Labour Party wanted to recognise the NHS. -- weapon ise. At every

:47:20.:47:32.

election, the Labour Party claims that the Tories will cut NHS

:47:33.:47:36.

spending. After every election, we increase NHS spending. At every

:47:37.:47:41.

election, Labour claim that the Tories will privatise the NHS. At

:47:42.:47:47.

every election, indictment, we have protected the NHS. -- in government.

:47:48.:47:53.

There is only one party that has cut funding for the NHS, the Labour

:47:54.:47:55.

Party in Wales. Thank you, Mr Speaker. If the Prime

:47:56.:48:11.

Minister aware that research shows that infrastructure investment most

:48:12.:48:13.

benefits area is prepared to capitalise on it, with new

:48:14.:48:19.

associated possibilities in housing, skills and jobs? Will she ensure

:48:20.:48:23.

that current opportunities are taken for inward investment to preserve

:48:24.:48:28.

and we energise essential national industries, like one in the Yeovil

:48:29.:48:31.

area, as we seek to capitalise on the dualling of the A303? My

:48:32.:48:41.

honourable friend is right. We are investing in infrastructure like the

:48:42.:48:45.

A303. It is important that local communities embrace those

:48:46.:48:50.

opportunities. I know that my honourable friend has been putting

:48:51.:48:52.

together ideas for Yeovil and I'm sure he will share those with Mike

:48:53.:48:56.

right honourable friend, the Communities Secretary. I joined the

:48:57.:49:01.

Prime Minister and the leader of the Labour Party in remembering the

:49:02.:49:05.

Aberfan disaster at my thoughts are with everybody affected. Thousands

:49:06.:49:09.

of innocent civilians have now been killed by Saudi air strikes in

:49:10.:49:13.

Yemen. Can the Prime Minister give the house assurance that those

:49:14.:49:19.

civilians have not been killed by pave way missiles, partially

:49:20.:49:24.

manufactured in Scotland, under licence from her government in Saudi

:49:25.:49:29.

Arabia? I congratulate the right honourable gentleman on his election

:49:30.:49:35.

as deputy leader of the SNP. I say to him, as he knows, we have one of

:49:36.:49:40.

the toughest regimes in the world in relation to arms exports. When these

:49:41.:49:46.

allegations arise, we have been pressing, I have pressed in the past

:49:47.:49:50.

and my right honourable friend the Foreign Secretary has pressed the

:49:51.:49:56.

Foreign Secretary, and the Saudi government investigate and learn

:49:57.:50:01.

lessons. It is beyond doubt that the Saudi air force is bombing Yemen,

:50:02.:50:07.

flying planes made in Britain, by pilots trained by Britain and

:50:08.:50:12.

dropping missiles made in Britain. I asked her a direct question and she

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couldn't answer it. Can she give this house and the assurance that

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civilians have not been killed by Paveway 4 bombs being dropped on

:50:21.:50:26.

Yemen which are partially manufactured in Scotland under

:50:27.:50:31.

licence by the government? If she doesn't know the answer to that

:50:32.:50:36.

question, how can she possibly in good conscience continue selling

:50:37.:50:41.

them to Saudi Arabia? In response to the right honourable gentleman, the

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point I made was simple. We press for proper investigations into what

:50:47.:50:49.

has happened on those incidents before we reach a decision or

:50:50.:50:53.

conclusion on what has happened in relation to those incidents. We have

:50:54.:50:57.

a very strong elation chip with Saudi Arabia. It is for this country

:50:58.:51:02.

in terms of dealing with counterterrorism and a number of

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other issues. What matters when incidents happen which caused

:51:06.:51:08.

concern is that they are properly investigated. A few weeks ago, I

:51:09.:51:17.

thought I'd successfully bought four tickets online for one of my

:51:18.:51:22.

favourite bands, Green Day, only to be told the tickets were unavailable

:51:23.:51:27.

and the gig sold out. Within minutes, I could buy the tickets on

:51:28.:51:31.

another site for twice the price. It turned out the ticket site had been

:51:32.:51:36.

the victim of an attack by organised cats who resold the ticket inflated

:51:37.:51:41.

prices. We'll the Prime Minister asked her ministers to give close

:51:42.:51:45.

consideration to my amendment to be Digital economy act which would make

:51:46.:51:50.

the computerised harvesting of tickets for resale in offence?

:51:51.:51:54.

Similar legislation exists elsewhere and it would go a long way to

:51:55.:51:57.

protecting consumers and genuine music fans. I think my honourable

:51:58.:52:03.

friends for raising this issue. I'm sure he isn't the only member of the

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spouse who has had that experience and certainly not the only person,

:52:07.:52:12.

as people will know from their constituency mailbags, to have had

:52:13.:52:17.

this experience. As part of the consumer rights act, a review of

:52:18.:52:22.

online ticket sales was introduced. Professor Michael Waterson

:52:23.:52:25.

introduced a report on that. It has produced a number of

:52:26.:52:28.

recommendations, some for the industry to be able to better

:52:29.:52:32.

protect itself, but the government will be looking at the

:52:33.:52:34.

recommendations of that very carefully to see what can be done to

:52:35.:52:43.

address the issue he talks about. The child abuse enquiry needs to

:52:44.:52:48.

regain the trust of survivors. In September, the Home Secretary said

:52:49.:52:51.

she had no information about Syria's leadership failings but on Monday

:52:52.:52:54.

she told the house she had known about serious problems since July.

:52:55.:52:58.

Yesterday it emerged that senior home of this -- Home Office

:52:59.:53:04.

officials were briefed in April this year. She set up the enquiry and

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pointed the chair. She was the individual responsible for the

:53:11.:53:13.

enquiry's success. She was the Home Secretary in April and she was the

:53:14.:53:18.

only person who had the power to act. Can she now finally tell us

:53:19.:53:23.

when she personally learned of the serious problems developing in this

:53:24.:53:29.

enquiry and why it was that she took no action at all? Can I say, I

:53:30.:53:35.

recognise that the honourable lady has taken a particular interest in

:53:36.:53:39.

this issue and I'm sure she will recognise, as I hope other members

:53:40.:53:44.

of this house do, why it is I set up the enquiry. For too long, people

:53:45.:53:51.

who had been to child... For too long, people who had been subjected

:53:52.:53:56.

to child sexual abuse had their voices going unheard and they felt

:53:57.:54:01.

they were not getting justice. That is why it is very important that the

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enquiry is able to continue and find that justice for them. I have to say

:54:06.:54:11.

to the honourable lady that one of the important aspects of this is

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that, over the years, too many people have had concerns that people

:54:16.:54:19.

in positions of power have intervened to stop them from getting

:54:20.:54:26.

justice. There were stories around about the enquiry and about

:54:27.:54:29.

individuals related to the enquiry, but the Home Secretary cannot

:54:30.:54:34.

intervene on the basis of suspicion, rumour or hearsay. She refers to the

:54:35.:54:42.

statement made yesterday in this house. She refers to the statement

:54:43.:54:45.

made yesterday in this house about information being discussed with the

:54:46.:54:50.

director-general in the Home Office. She will also have noted that that

:54:51.:54:55.

conversation was asked to be confidential, and as far as I'm

:54:56.:54:59.

aware it was treated as such. I think it is important for us to

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recognise that, when the Home Office was officially informed of issues,

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the Home Office acted. It's now for the enquiry to get on and deliver

:55:09.:55:15.

for victims and survivors. Having been born and growing up in south

:55:16.:55:22.

Wales and as a former Secretary of State for Wales, can I associate

:55:23.:55:25.

myself with the heartfelt tributes that have been paid by the front

:55:26.:55:30.

bench to the community of Aberfan and throughout this house. It was a

:55:31.:55:35.

tragedy that was unparalleled and it stunned the world. Can the Prime

:55:36.:55:37.

Minister in her own words step up to the plate and reconfirm her

:55:38.:55:43.

commitment to Wales and to ensuring that her government works with the

:55:44.:55:48.

Welsh government, particularly after leaving the EU, to maintain the

:55:49.:55:52.

levels of investment that so vital to the long-term social and economic

:55:53.:55:55.

development of the valleys communities and rest of Wales? I say

:55:56.:56:01.

to my right honourable friend that, as a former Secretary of State for

:56:02.:56:05.

Wales, she is well aware of the impact the Aberfan disaster at an

:56:06.:56:10.

south Wales and those local communities and, as I said in my

:56:11.:56:14.

opening remarks, these events were tragic and the thoughts of the whole

:56:15.:56:17.

house with those who were affected by them. I can give that commitment

:56:18.:56:22.

she is asking for, of this government to Wales and working with

:56:23.:56:26.

the Welsh government. I am clear this government is going to deliver

:56:27.:56:30.

a country that works for every part of the UK. The Wales Bill will

:56:31.:56:37.

transfer a historic transfer of powers to be Welsh Assembly. It will

:56:38.:56:41.

allow the Welsh government to focus on the job of transforming the Welsh

:56:42.:56:45.

economy, and we are talking to them about how we are going to go forward

:56:46.:56:49.

in relation to negotiations for leaving the EU. Progress today has

:56:50.:56:53.

been very slow. Can I appeal to colleagues to speed up. Much

:56:54.:57:02.

obliged. Can there be a single member of this house who does not

:57:03.:57:05.

have reason to be grateful to those heroes of our high street, the

:57:06.:57:11.

community pharmacist. And can there be any member of the public who is

:57:12.:57:15.

not as bemused as I am by the fact that the government is proposing a

:57:16.:57:21.

12% cut in the community pharmacy budgets, potentially leading to 3000

:57:22.:57:26.

closures? Will be Prime Minister today express her support for

:57:27.:57:29.

community pharmacy and have another look at this divisive, corrosive and

:57:30.:57:35.

destructive proposal? I think everybody in this house recognises

:57:36.:57:43.

the role and contribution of community pharmacies up and down the

:57:44.:57:47.

country, but it's also right that we look at how we are spending NHS

:57:48.:57:53.

money. That is why the government is looking at this issue. If the

:57:54.:57:57.

honourable gentleman supports community pharmacies, perhaps he

:57:58.:58:00.

ought to have a word with his right honourable friend, the Leader of the

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Opposition, because his policy is to completely nationalised the health

:58:05.:58:10.

system, lock, stock and barrel, GP surgeries, Macmillan nurses and GP

:58:11.:58:15.

pharmacies. Next week, this government will finally make a

:58:16.:58:18.

decision on airport capacity in the south-east, something that eluded

:58:19.:58:22.

three of her predecessors and will help boost trade. Does the Prime

:58:23.:58:26.

Minister agree that on this issue substance matters more? Will she

:58:27.:58:29.

outlined her timetable for indentation? He is right, this month

:58:30.:58:38.

this government will take a decision on the appropriate site for expanded

:58:39.:58:41.

airport capacity in the south-east. This is a subject that's been

:58:42.:58:46.

debated, discussed, speculated on for 40 years. This government will

:58:47.:58:50.

take a decision. But there is a formal process that has to be

:58:51.:58:54.

undertaken, so the government will identify its proposed option

:58:55.:59:00.

off-site -- of sight. That will go to a statutory consultation. The

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government will consider the results of that and bring forward an

:59:04.:59:07.

airports national planning statement on which this house will vote. Does

:59:08.:59:16.

the Prime Minister agree that any move to close the historic barracks

:59:17.:59:19.

at Fort George would not only be a poor military decision after 250

:59:20.:59:25.

years of service but a betrayal of the Black Watch and a slap in the

:59:26.:59:30.

face to the Highlands? I say to the honourable gentleman that I

:59:31.:59:34.

recognised the strength of the view he has put forward. No decisions on

:59:35.:59:38.

Fort George or other locations have been taken and the Ministry of

:59:39.:59:41.

Defence will engage with all parties impacted by any decisions that it

:59:42.:59:45.

takes of this sort, including in Scotland. My right honourable friend

:59:46.:59:53.

has been expressing some reluctance to submit even the broad plans for

:59:54.:59:57.

future negotiations with the EU to this house because of worries it

:59:58.:00:01.

might weaken her government's negotiating position. As she noticed

:00:02.:00:06.

that this week one or more Brexiteer members of her Cabinet have been

:00:07.:00:12.

briefing the newspapers copiously on every proposal being put forward in

:00:13.:00:17.

papers to be relevant Cabinet committee by their colleagues, and

:00:18.:00:20.

launching political attacks on their Cabinet colleagues, who seemed to

:00:21.:00:25.

disagree with them? Will she take firm action to stop this process,

:00:26.:00:29.

and will she also agree that the proper approach is Parliamentary

:00:30.:00:35.

scrutiny of the broad strategy once the government has reached agreement

:00:36.:00:40.

on what it should be? I say to my right honourable friend that the

:00:41.:00:43.

government is very clear that the vote on June the 23rd was a vote to

:00:44.:00:48.

ensure that we had control of movement of people from the EU into

:00:49.:00:52.

the UK, but also we want to see the best possible access for businesses

:00:53.:00:57.

for trading in goods and services with an operating within that

:00:58.:01:00.

European market. That is what the government will be aiming for and we

:01:01.:01:04.

will be ambitious in that. Parliament will have its say. These

:01:05.:01:08.

are going to be lengthy negotiations over the course of two years or

:01:09.:01:11.

more. Parliament will have its say in a variety of ways, not least in

:01:12.:01:17.

relation to the great repeal bill. Some of my constituents have had

:01:18.:01:21.

their tax credits suddenly stopped by concentric and have been accused

:01:22.:01:26.

of being in a relationship with previous tenants of their homes, who

:01:27.:01:30.

they have never even met. In some cases, they have been accused of

:01:31.:01:34.

being in a relationship with members of their own families and told to

:01:35.:01:40.

prove they are not. This Kafka-esque situation is causing deep distress

:01:41.:01:43.

and hardship among working mothers in my constituency. This is what the

:01:44.:01:49.

Prime Minister means by being on the side of working people? What is she

:01:50.:01:52.

going to do to put it right? The right honourable lady raises an

:01:53.:01:57.

issue which is of concern to members across this house. Making sure that

:01:58.:02:03.

those who are being assessed are being assessed properly and the

:02:04.:02:06.

decisions and right decisions are taken. The Department for Work and

:02:07.:02:10.

Pensions is looking at the process of what should be done and how both

:02:11.:02:18.

assessment should be taken. I say to her that I hoped she would welcome

:02:19.:02:21.

the fact that this government has said that, for those with long-term

:02:22.:02:25.

conditions that are not going to improve, we will not be putting them

:02:26.:02:29.

through the regular assessments they had under her government

:02:30.:02:41.

apprenticeships from EDF has just been launched at the Bridgewater and

:02:42.:02:43.

Taunton college. And we do want to see every

:02:44.:03:22.

generation of nuclear expertise in the industry. The Prime Minister is

:03:23.:03:30.

celebrated her 65th birthday but will not retire. It is her choice.

:03:31.:03:35.

Yet she is denying that same choice to many of my constituents, women

:03:36.:03:42.

like Christina, who has worked every bit as hard as the Prime Minister

:03:43.:03:46.

but will have to now work an extra six years. When will she do the

:03:47.:03:52.

right thing and give these women there transitional... So that they

:03:53.:03:57.

can also make the choices that she has enjoys? The honourable lady

:03:58.:04:01.

knows that we have transition arrangements in place, that action

:04:02.:04:04.

was taken by the government to ensure that the period of time that

:04:05.:04:08.

the pension aged changed would be no more than 18 months compared to the

:04:09.:04:14.

previous timetable and for 81% of women affected by the 2011 change it

:04:15.:04:20.

will be no more than 12 months. Heidi Allen. Thank you, Mr Speaker,

:04:21.:04:25.

the unemployment figures results today are fantastic news yet I worry

:04:26.:04:29.

about the economic volatility that could come as a consequence of

:04:30.:04:33.

Brexit potentially inflation rising and the cost of living going up for

:04:34.:04:37.

people on modest wages, does the Prime Minister agree we need to keep

:04:38.:04:40.

as many people in a plummet as possible and need to make the right

:04:41.:04:44.

decision of tax credits, could I urge you to look at those cuts

:04:45.:04:47.

embedded in universal credit and make sure we know what it will do to

:04:48.:04:55.

people trying to get work in this Autumn Statement. My right

:04:56.:05:01.

honourable friend is right say this, I'm very proud of the record that

:05:02.:05:05.

the government has over the last six years of getting more people into

:05:06.:05:08.

work so that there are now hundreds of thousands fewer households with

:05:09.:05:13.

no work income coming into the household. That is extremely

:05:14.:05:17.

important and the point of universal credit is to be able to ensure that

:05:18.:05:22.

the transition from benefits into work as a transition that means that

:05:23.:05:28.

people do have benefit if they are out of work rows this system means

:05:29.:05:32.

that for some people there were better off on benefits, we want to

:05:33.:05:36.

see people in work and that is a system is there to encourage. Mr

:05:37.:05:44.

Speaker been asking questions for 15 months and this government is

:05:45.:05:49.

appalling to child policy and rape close, from one feminist to another

:05:50.:05:53.

how can the Prime Minister justify putting vulnerable women to the

:05:54.:05:57.

trauma of proving that the third child has been born as a result of

:05:58.:06:02.

rape? We have been very clear that women with a third child as a result

:06:03.:06:06.

of rape would not be subject to the limit being considered in relation

:06:07.:06:11.

to benefits. I absolutely recognise that the honourable lady is making a

:06:12.:06:19.

point on how this would affect individuals who have been through

:06:20.:06:23.

the trauma of rape. That is why the government is taking its time, is

:06:24.:06:27.

considering this, consulting on this at the moment and looking at how we

:06:28.:06:30.

can make sure we do this in the right way. Sir who goes quiet. Thank

:06:31.:06:38.

you, Mr Speaker, given the increasing relevance of the

:06:39.:06:41.

Commonwealth in terms of trade were the Prime Minister give her support

:06:42.:06:44.

to the first ever meeting of Commonwealth trade ministers in the

:06:45.:06:47.

UK next year and will she commit when she goes to India next month to

:06:48.:06:52.

persuade the Indian Prime Minister to attend in the UK in 2018? I am

:06:53.:07:00.

happy to encourage all leaders to attend the event when it takes place

:07:01.:07:06.

in the UK. I can assure my right honourable friend that we are

:07:07.:07:08.

looking at the possibility of trade deals in relation to the

:07:09.:07:12.

Commonwealth and I to applaud that first ever meeting of Commonwealth

:07:13.:07:16.

trade metres which is an important step as we look to forging a new

:07:17.:07:20.

global role in the world, ensuring we are making a success of trading

:07:21.:07:30.

around the world. Local authorities are clear that the removal of 24

:07:31.:07:34.

hour maternity services in my area will cost lives and this is a

:07:35.:07:37.

decision the government will have to make. Will the Prime Minister please

:07:38.:07:41.

commit to visiting my constituency to see the effect of the decision

:07:42.:07:45.

upon West Cumbrian families and children. I say to the honourable

:07:46.:07:52.

gentleman, this is not the first time he's raised his concerns in

:07:53.:07:55.

relation to this hospital. Can I say that the point of the way in which

:07:56.:07:59.

we are approaching this is that decisions are taken and generated

:08:00.:08:03.

from the local level. It is at the local level that they will look for

:08:04.:08:06.

services necessary to people to ensure they can provide the services

:08:07.:08:11.

needed and safe services for people of his constituency and other parts

:08:12.:08:17.

of Cumbria. Sir Robert Neill. The tragic murder of one prisoner and

:08:18.:08:22.

the critical winding of two others in Pentonville prison last might

:08:23.:08:25.

bring some start to the declining safety and presence. Will the Prime

:08:26.:08:29.

Minister give the Secretary of State for Justice full support in

:08:30.:08:32.

commissioning a thorough and complete review of the operational,

:08:33.:08:39.

managerial capacity of leadership of the service which has signally

:08:40.:08:43.

failed to arrest this declining situation? This is a matter which is

:08:44.:08:48.

one of the very first issue is that my right honourable friend the

:08:49.:08:52.

Justice Secretary raised with me which was the question of violence

:08:53.:08:55.

in prisons and safety in prisons. That is why my right honourable

:08:56.:08:59.

friend is looking across-the-board and the action needed to be taken

:09:00.:09:05.

and has announced extra money to the staff in prisons because she

:09:06.:09:08.

recognises the importance of this issue. Lucy Powell. Thank you Mr

:09:09.:09:14.

Speaker, one in every 1000 pupils has three meals in grammar schools.

:09:15.:09:17.

Does the Prime Minister agree with me that this tiny number is flimsy

:09:18.:09:24.

evidence base on which to create a new national schools policy.

:09:25.:09:26.

Watching the better looking at the real evidence of how we reduce

:09:27.:09:31.

inequality in education? -- would she not be better looking about? I

:09:32.:09:36.

want to see every child getting the education right for them, every

:09:37.:09:40.

child able to get on as far as their talents and hard work will them.

:09:41.:09:45.

That is why we need to increase the number of good schools in this

:09:46.:09:55.

country. If you look at the gap in attainment between those who are

:09:56.:09:58.

from disadvantaged backgrounds and those not in grammar schools it is

:09:59.:10:02.

virtually zero. That's not the same in other schools. I say to the

:10:03.:10:08.

honourable lady that I think it is wrong that we have a system in this

:10:09.:10:14.

country where we have a law that prevents the opening or expansion of

:10:15.:10:18.

good schools, that is what we will get rid of. Pauline Latham. Will the

:10:19.:10:26.

premise to work with her secretaries of state to try to reduce the amount

:10:27.:10:32.

of ivory trade and trade of endangered species throughout the

:10:33.:10:36.

world, to try to lead by example from this country? My honourable

:10:37.:10:41.

friend raises an important issue, this is something the government has

:10:42.:10:45.

been taken up and I can assure her not only has my right honourable

:10:46.:10:51.

friend the Foreign Secretary heard them that has promoted that this is

:10:52.:10:53.

an issue the government will take up. The pottery industry is

:10:54.:11:01.

witnessing a modest Renaissance partly through EU exports and action

:11:02.:11:05.

on Chinese ceramic dumping. The previous prime ministers said he

:11:06.:11:08.

would make sure that the ceramic industry's voice is heard and we

:11:09.:11:12.

would get a good negotiation. What is this Prime Minister doing to make

:11:13.:11:17.

sure that Stoke-on-Trent ceramic manufacturers maintain tariff free

:11:18.:11:21.

access to the EU and a level playing field in the face of protectionist

:11:22.:11:27.

dumping? I say to the honourable gentleman that I am pleased to

:11:28.:11:30.

welcome the Renaissance in the ceramics industry that he refers to.

:11:31.:11:37.

His constituency has a long-standing history and tradition in ceramics.

:11:38.:11:40.

What are we doing as we go through the negotiations were leaving the

:11:41.:11:43.

European Union we will ensure that this country has the best possible

:11:44.:11:47.

access to trade with and operate within that European market. That is

:11:48.:11:55.

what people want. Many constituents have expressed concern to me of

:11:56.:11:59.

anti-Semitism. I'm sure that every member of this House will agree that

:12:00.:12:04.

we should show its zero tolerance. Does the Prime Minister also agree

:12:05.:12:12.

that all parties should not allow a situation to arise where it appears

:12:13.:12:17.

that an environment is created when anti-Semitism is tolerated?

:12:18.:12:21.

Liverpool Prime Minister? I absolutely agree with my honourable

:12:22.:12:26.

friend that this House should send a clear message that we won't tolerate

:12:27.:12:30.

anti-Semitism. I have been concerned about the rise we have seen in the

:12:31.:12:33.

number of anti-Semitic incidents in this country. We should ensure that

:12:34.:12:39.

those incidents are properly investigated and dealt with and give

:12:40.:12:41.

that clear message that we want tolerated. But that has to be every

:12:42.:12:48.

political party in this chamber. And I ask the right honourable

:12:49.:12:52.

gentleman, the Leader of the Opposition, given the report of the

:12:53.:12:56.

select committee of this House about anti-Semitism and the approach to

:12:57.:12:59.

anti-Semitism in the Labour Party, he needs to think very carefully

:13:00.:13:02.

about the environment being created in the Labour Party in relation to

:13:03.:13:08.

anti-Semitism. Andy Burnham. We are one such man and -- we one month

:13:09.:13:16.

from the inquest into the Birmingham pub bombings, the west midlands fund

:13:17.:13:20.

has a fund of ?1 million yet the bereaved families have no legal

:13:21.:13:25.

funding. This is a shameful state of affairs. Please intervene and show

:13:26.:13:29.

the Birmingham families the same compassion that was shown to the

:13:30.:13:32.

Hillsborough families. The right honourable gentleman may be aware

:13:33.:13:36.

that the Birmingham families have been encouraged to apply and I

:13:37.:13:40.

believe they have applied to the legal aid fund for the exceptional

:13:41.:13:44.

funds. That was as I understand what happened after the 7/7 bombings. The

:13:45.:13:49.

Home Secretary has made clear her expectation that funding will be

:13:50.:13:53.

provided. We await the decision from the legal aid fund. We hope that

:13:54.:14:00.

decision be for certificate. -- will be positive. Why build a new runway

:14:01.:14:05.

at Heathrow when we could deliver one at Gatwick for a fraction of the

:14:06.:14:11.

time and the cost. May I assure my right honourable friend that no

:14:12.:14:14.

decision has been taken on the site of airport expansion on the

:14:15.:14:18.

south-east. As she will know from her previous background that Davis

:14:19.:14:22.

commission said that airport capacity should be expected, the

:14:23.:14:30.

Davis commission identified three sites all of which they said would

:14:31.:14:35.

be credible and deliverable. I feel it is fitting that we finish with a

:14:36.:14:40.

question from Mr Gerard Jones. Could I first thank the Prime Minister and

:14:41.:14:43.

the Leader of the Opposition and other members for their comments on

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the Aberfan disaster and the resilience and quiet dignity shown

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by the people of Aberfan. On Friday morning at 915, on the anniversary

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of the disaster the people of that community along with communities of

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Wales will mark that disaster with one minute's silence. Could I ask

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the Prime Minister if she would support that moment of silence being

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marked as the disaster affected communities across the country, if

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not the world, that that moment of silence be marked across the UK. I

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say to the honourable gentleman, I know the Secretary of State for

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Wales will attend the memorial in his constituency on Friday. I think

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it is appropriate that we all mark and show our respect for those who

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lost their lives and the families who suffered as a result of the

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tragedy that took place 50 years ago in Aberfan. It was, as we said

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earlier, terrible tragedy not just for families but for community and I

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think it is right that we recognise Prime Minister's Questions comes to

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an end. I think that maybe a record for us. It started a bit late, but

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it is only quarter to one now. Jeremy Corbyn began with a specific

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question about spending on mental health, about budgets being cut, but

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he then moved on and, as a consequence, he gave an example of

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people being held in police cells because there was no room in

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hospitals, but he then moved onto the more general issue of health

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funding and whether, despite the rise is the government says its

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making, it was enough to cope with the demand. There were a number of

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exchanges between the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition on

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that. There were also two other developments. Angus Robertson for

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the SNP asked the Prime Minister if she could be sure that the civilians

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who'd been killed in bombing in Yemen why Saudi Arabian air force

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had not been done so by British missiles. It isn't clear what the

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Prime Minister's answer was. It was clear she didn't really know. Quite

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a hard question but she couldn't answer it. Lisa Nandy, a backbench

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Labour MP, asked about the Goddard enquiry into child abuse, which has

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been surrounded by controversy, with the New Zealand judge resigning, yet

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another, and we are on to the fourth judge now. The Prime Minister said

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she had heard rumours that all was not well but that it was not her job

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to act on rumours when she was Home Secretary. I think that will not be

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the end of it. We may see where that goes from here. We will hear from

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our panel in a minute. For that, let's get some e-mails. Viewers

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picked up on the debate at the dispatch box about health spending.

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Jeffery says, while both the Prime Minister and Mr Corbyn are right to

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be concerned in regard to the issue of mental health, I wish they'd stop

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using the best health system in the world as a political football. Alan

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said, isn't it time there was a review into what services the NHS

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should and shouldn't provide instead of continuously throwing money at

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it. John from Leeds said, surprised to hear the Prime Minister during

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the word top-down justifying her own government's action, but whatever is

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spent on the NHS will never be enough and the sooner the government

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-- the sooner Labour start admitting this the better. Mrs May on rocky

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ground, says Ian from Altrincham. They have funded the NHS but they

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have cut social care meaning the NHS is having to deal with things that

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social -- local authorities should Peter says, Corbyn had a good PMQs.

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The gloss is falling of the Prime Minister at a rate of knots. We've

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only got about five minutes. Lots of tricky issues, Theresa May with lots

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of things saying, a decision will be taken later or I can't give you

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those details. Two Pandora's box -- boxes. Theresa May implied that she

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had been told something of the problems with the Goddard enquiry

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into historical child abuse. She said she couldn't act on hearsay,

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rumour or suspicion, but that was a tacit admission and it will be

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interesting to see how that is clarified during the day that she

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knew something of what was going wrong. It was her enquiry. Second,

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this may have been a Mr big, as it is sometimes known but, when was

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asked about Brexit, she said there would be lengthy negotiations over

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the course of two years, talking about Article 50, and more. That has

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set a hare running. Did the prime ministers sit -- give away her view

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that it will take more than two years, or was it just said in the

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heat of the moment? I think that is something that we will be trying to

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get the bottom of whether she was implying that the whole process,

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congregated, tricky, tortuous, is going to take longer than two years.

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It can take longer unless all other 27 members agree. Yes, it's up to

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the other member states to vote. It's a complicated issue. Comment on

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PMQs as a whole, is often theatre, but this was a good PMQs with lots

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of important questions. On the Brexit aspect, the Prime Minister

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made it very clear that we will work hard for the best possible access

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for our businesses, but also the vote was clear to say that Britain

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wants to control its borders and that's what we want to work towards.

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You have just come back from Saudi Arabia. RB Saudis using British

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defence equipment to bomb civilians in Yemen? -- are the Saudis. That an

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operational question. We do sell arms to Saudi Arabia. This is a

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legitimate war taking place, endorsed by the United Nations

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resolution supporting the president. It's important to recognise that

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Saudi Arabians have made mistakes but they have also put their hand up

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to it. We had the Foreign Minister in Parliament, the best place to

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answer questions, to be held to account, and he made it very clear

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that we are having difficulties in getting it wrong and we need to get

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it right but we need British help to make sure that we can correct the

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errors that have been happening. It an operational matter if it's an

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error and the Allies in Syria and Iraq made mistakes as well. It's not

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an operational matter if it's part of the Saudi strategy in the Yemen

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to bomb civilians. You are right, which is why I went to Riyadh last

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week to tell them that they need to come out with a report immediately.

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They did that, it was released at the weekend, and they put their hand

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up saying it was a breach of standard operating procedures and

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somebody will fall on their sword. There are now disciplinary actions,

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support and compensation is coming in to the victims. So they did

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intentionally bombed... We have made errors as well. Was it an error, was

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it a mistake? Was it collateral damage? Was it a deliberate attack

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on civilians? It was a deliberate error made by an individual who

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needs to be disciplined. So this individual deliberately attacked

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civilians. There was a choice to breach decisions. Riyadh said the

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attack shouldn't take place but it did. That is why this report will

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clarify exactly what's going to happen. It's important that Saudi

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Arabia, which hasn't been good at communicating these things, is able

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to come forward not just on this but their outstanding investigations we

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are all waiting to hear more details on. What was your take on PMQs? I

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thought it was a good day for Jeremy Corbyn, picking up the NHS, which is

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clearly in meltdown at the moment. Not only the financial loss, but I

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was a commissioner for 20 years in the NHS and I know that waiting

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times have escalated, 44 ambulances, any services, really in crisis. We

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are about further rationing, further planned cuts to services under these

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sustainable transformation plans. The reality is that it is the system

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that broken. The health and social care act put the wrong financial

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drivers in the system and it drove everybody into A rather than

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commitment to the community to stop the machine will keep gobbling

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money. It's about making sure the money goes to the right place. Under

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this reorganisation, it's going to the most expensive part of the

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health service, so that is why we have got the crisis. Which is the

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hospitals. Absolutely, the acute care. I had a mental health hospital

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shut in my constituency in three working days, so people were spread

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throughout the region in a mental health crisis. The system has been

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broken for far too long and we don't see parity. It is there enough

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standing at the dispatch box saying parity of esteem. We need to see

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resourcing and care put in an investment into mental health. Sorry

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to rush in. We need to move on. We are short of time. Laura, to see

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you. Now, of all the big Brexit issues

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none has more gravity than its possible impact

:24:19.:24:21.

on Premiership football. Players and managers

:24:22.:24:23.

could not avoid being asked for their thoughts in the wake

:24:24.:24:25.

of the referendum result. Of course, it's hard not to know

:24:26.:24:27.

that it's gone on but it's something that I've not really thought too

:24:28.:24:30.

much about yet. Obviously I'm focusing

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on the Euros and what's ahead. Nobody I don't think knows

:24:34.:24:35.

what's going to happen. From my point of view,

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I'm just going to wait and see And then it was around again,

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around the Brexit decision, things, OK, England,

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what will happen, and I really, I like giving a sign

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we are still Europe. Whatever happens, we are still

:24:59.:25:04.

Europe. We are quite different in a lot

:25:05.:25:06.

of things, especially what we eat and so on,

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but we are really similar. And Brexit is not an issue that has

:25:11.:25:14.

escaped the interest of the creators of the hit computer

:25:15.:25:19.

game Football Manager. Players of the 2017 edition

:25:20.:25:22.

will have to grapple with different Brexit scenarios as part

:25:23.:25:25.

of the game. And its director, Miles

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Jacobson, joins me now. Why? Because it's important. It's

:25:29.:25:40.

something that will be happening. There's nothing we can do to stop

:25:41.:25:44.

it. The vote has happened, people have spoken, and it will affect

:25:45.:25:48.

football. I don't think people thought about these kind of things

:25:49.:25:51.

before the vote. They didn't have this information. If we can't bring

:25:52.:25:56.

in players from the EU any more and we stick to the current work permit

:25:57.:26:02.

system that we have, it would mean players like N'Golo Kante and

:26:03.:26:05.

Dimitri Payet, two of the best players in the Premier League last

:26:06.:26:10.

season... And most of the high-profile managers. They would

:26:11.:26:14.

not be able to get work permits. We sat and looked at every possible

:26:15.:26:19.

scenario, including soft Brexit scenarios where you can still bring

:26:20.:26:21.

in players through freedom of movement for workers, through too

:26:22.:26:26.

hard Brexit options, where you will be limited to a quota of the number

:26:27.:26:31.

of foreign players you could have in the squad. Is that true? Is that a

:26:32.:26:36.

possible scenario, that we won't be able to get amazing football

:26:37.:26:41.

managers and players on work our midst? It's not my department, but I

:26:42.:26:45.

would be astonished. We can be proud of one of the best leagues in the

:26:46.:26:51.

world. People want to come to the UK because of what happens here. Play

:26:52.:26:55.

this game, but don't use it as a guidance to what EU legislation is

:26:56.:26:59.

all about. We need good players to be able to come here and make sure

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we retain that position of having the best Premier League in the

:27:04.:27:07.

world. Do you think your players will be interested? By the reaction

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we have had since we announced it, I think so. Sometimes people don't

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realise how engage the public are. I think we got an indication from the

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referendum result. Absolutely. The scenario is in the game. The

:27:26.:27:30.

scenario is in the game of being able to get them. Thank you. Maybe

:27:31.:27:39.

if we had to have more home-grown talent we might have a national team

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worth its salt. I don't care about football, but I thought I'd throw

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that out. I thought you were an expert.

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There's just time to put you out of your misery and give

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I forget what the giveaway was. It was Maggie Thatcher at the window.

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With Norman Tebbit. Got you. Rachel, press that red button. You've no

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idea what will happen. It's not true. You do know. Well done,

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George. You have won that. I didn't realise it was 1987. Thank you,

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Miles, for coming in. We will see how your game goes down and which

:28:32.:28:35.

scenario is the most popular. Very educational. Manager of AFC

:28:36.:28:42.

Bournemouth. Some have been doing scenario planning for years.

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The One O'Clock News is starting over on BBC One now.

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Jo and I will be here at noon tomorrow with all the big political

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