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-Hello and welcome to Hacio.

-Tonight, the European Union debate.

-Do you want to be in or out?

-And has the Prime Minister

-secured a good deal for Britain?

-He hasn't come back with anything

-that people here wanted.

-It's a sham.

-New reporter Guto met one Tory...

-..who's campaigning against

-his leader in the referendum.

-He has returned with empty hands.

-That's an example of how much

-influence we now have in Europe.

-We must have control

-over what happens in Britain.

-But we begin tonight

-with revenge porn.

-This is a growing problem

-among young people.

-Tonight, we hear the experiences

-of two girls who have been affected.

-Revenge porn.

-When sexual images are shared

-by phone or over the web...

-..without the permission

-of the person featured...

-..as a way of seeking revenge

-on former partners or lovers.

-This 17-year-old girl

-is from the Cardiff area.

-We have hidden her face

-to protect her identity.

-When she was 14...

-..her boyfriend asked her

-to share sexual images of herself.

-I was going out with this bloke

-at the time.

-He kept asking me all the time.

-Eventually, I just sent them.

-Just topless images.

-I just sent them to him.

-Her boyfriend was older.

-As the relationship deteriorated...

-..she heard rumours that there were

-private images of her on the web.

-I thought they were making it up.

-I didn't even look at Facebook.

-I thought they just wanted

-to stir up trouble.

-But after loads of people told me,

-I thought hold on, maybe it is true.

-At the time,

-she didn't have a Facebook account.

-She had to create one to find out

-whether the rumours were true.

-I hadn't grasped

-the scale of the thing.

-Initially,

-only those in my year knew.

-Then, older people came up to me

-and asked questions about it.

-She only sent the photos

-to her boyfriend...

-..and so couldn't understand

-how they had gone public.

-I was really confused.

-I felt betrayed.

-I asked him

-and he denied everything.

-I was angry with myself.

-But I was still talking to him.

-He was still my boyfriend

-at the time.

-With the relationship more or less

-over, she turned to her friends.

-But their attitude

-had changed completely.

-Their attitude was really weird.

-When I first told them

-he was trying to persuade me...

-..they told me to do it

-and that they all did it.

-But when it started to spread,

-they all accused me of being a slut.

-They called me names

-and told me it was all my fault.

-She endured months of bullying

-after the images went public.

-It was a dark and lonely period

-for her.

-I was suffering really badly

-with depression...

-..and anxiety, wherever I went.

-At school, people were talking

-about me and staring at me.

-I started to think that it was

-happening outside school as well.

-On the street, I'd think

-people were talking about me.

-She found it hard to cope

-and often cried during lessons.

-She decided to change schools,

-but it didn't stop her ex-boyfriend.

-I got a text, "You're not going

-to get away that easily."

-I didn't see it as a threat.

-I was confused, so I ignored it.

-I thought he was being a creep.

-But after a couple of weeks

-at my new school...

-..old photos began circulating.

-Another girl has also spoken to us

-about her experiences.

-Once again, her face is hidden

-to conceal her identity.

-I was 15 at the time...

-..and he was 17.

-We went out for about four months.

-I really liked him.

-I never thought

-anything like that would happen.

-Her boyfriend asked

-for a naked photo of her.

-With her friends encouraging her,

-she agreed and sent one to him.

-Just one photo

-of me standing completely naked.

-That's what I sent him.

-But when the relationship

-turned sour...

-..he used the photo to get revenge.

-Until just before it happened,

-I was fine with him.

-I really liked him,

-but then we fell out.

-Suddenly, the photo was on the web.

-The photo she sent to her boyfriend

-was on Facebook for all to see.

-I felt really small.

-Nothing of mine

-was private any more.

-Everyone had seen everything.

-Anyone could have taken

-a screenshot of the photo.

-Even now, I don't know

-who still has a copy.

-She managed to get Facebook

-to remove the photo...

-..but was too ashamed

-to take the matter further.

-I didn't want my parents

-to find out either...

-..or anyone who's close to me.

-Any close relative.

-I'd also have been embarrassed...

-..to go to the police

-about something like that.

-This girl was 14

-when it happened to her.

-Now, at 17,

-she'd have reacted differently.

-If anything like that happened now,

-I'd go straight to the police.

-No question.

-If anyone did that to me,

-I'd go to the police.

-She says the recipient of the image

-has a duty to treat it with respect.

-She wants more attention

-given to the subject in schools.

-Young people do send naked images.

-That happens.

-They should be educated

-about the risks...

-..and about how to deal with it

-if anything goes wrong.

-Would you still send naked images?

-What's your opinion

-about sending naked images now?

-I still think that maybe I might...

-..but I'd be a lot more careful

-about it.

-I'd make sure

-it was because I wanted to...

-..not because someone

-was trying to persuade me to do it.

-Despite her experiences...

-..this girl also says

-that she would send a photo again.

-People will still send photos

-and people will put them on the web.

-You won't stop that.

-It's just something...

-..the young people of today do.

-This isn't the first time

-Hacio has looked at this problem.

-But is a new law making revenge

-porn an offence having any effect?

-Sexting is growing in popularity,

-especially among young people.

-In a 2013 survey

-by Childline and the NSPCC...

-..60% of young people aged 13-18

-said they had been asked...

-..for sexual images or videos

-of themselves.

-A quarter of those had sent an image

-or video on to someone else.

-Last year, Hacio filmed

-with Cazine McCarthy...

-..where innocent sexting had turned

-sour and led to revenge porn.

-He posted a nude photo and video

-of me on my Instagram account...

-..and he changed my password...

-..so I couldn't delete it.

-I begged him to take it down.

-I'd have done anything

-for him to take it down.

-She went to the police.

-At the time, there was no specific

-law to deal with the matter.

-That made the process

-of getting justice much tougher.

-Everyone does it, and you

-don't think it'll happen to you.

-But looking back now,

-it was really stupid.

-She won her case against her ex

-under the Telecommunications Act.

-Soon afterwards,

-a new law was enacted.

-Last April,

-a new law came into force...

-..making it an offence

-in England and Wales...

-..to share sexual images or videos

-of people without their permission.

-In the first eight months, police

-in Wales investigated 56 such cases.

-I spoke to the NSPCC

-about the problem.

-Hello, Lon.

-Hello, Lon.

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-Hello, Sion. Nice to meet you.

-Come through.

-They say that they have seen

-an increase in cases recently.

-Sharing personal sexual images

-is a common part of growing up.

-It's the norm for young people now.

-The way we use the Internet,

-mobiles, tablets and so on.

-It's so quick to create and share

-these photos and videos.

-It's quite scary, actually.

-In the NSPCC and Childline survey...

-..20% of those who admitted

-to sending images...

-..said the image had been further

-shared via the web or phone apps.

-I think that they tend

-to glamorize things.

-With Snapchat and Instagram,

-you can manipulate photos.

-You can do anything to them.

-It's quite gimmicky,

-and that's scary as well.

-Young people don't think

-before they share them.

-It's impossible to tell

-where the images will end up.

-The NSPCC warns people

-to think twice before sending.

-Consider before sending, please.

-Once it's out there,

-you'll never get it back.

-This week, S4C has decided...

-..to show some programmes

-with automatic on-screen subtitles.

-But this has stirred up

-a hornets' nest.

-Some have decided

-to boycott the channel for a week.

-I sought Welsh students' opinions

-at the Intercollegiate Eisteddfod.

-I think it will encourage English

-viewers to watch Welsh programmes.

-The viewing figures would go up.

-But as someone who watches S4C...

-..it's sometimes annoying

-when you know what's being said...

-..and the subtitles come constantly.

-There are pros and cons...

-..but hopefully, more will watch

-and S4C's funding will increase.

-I'm not that bothered...

-..but it will attract

-more English viewers to the channel.

-It can only be a positive decision,

-in my opinion.

-I think it's a difficult question.

-It's good to attract people

-who aren't fluent in Welsh...

-..to watch S4C.

-But it is a Welsh channel,

-and we should keep it Welsh.

-It's the only channel we have.

-I think it's a good idea for people

-who can't speak Welsh to watch S4C.

-It's a good way

-to expand the audience...

-..and to invite more English

-speakers to watch the channel.

-But it does degrade Welsh speakers

-by forcing us to watch subtitles.

-We don't have a choice.

-I think it's a good thing

-to expand the audience for one week.

-Anything more than that...

-..and it would spoil the experience

-of watching Welsh TV.

-That's all for part one.

-In part two, how much do you know

-about the European Union?

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-Welcome back.

-In June,

-a referendum will be held...

-..to find out if we want to remain

-in the European Union.

-How much do you know

-about the European Union...

-..and what effect

-could this have on Wales?

-The European Economic Community

-was established in 1957...

-..as a way of keeping the peace

-following WWII.

-The United Kingdom

-didn't join until 1973.

-The European Union

-makes its own laws...

-..and promotes cooperation and trade

-between the members.

-How much do Carmarthen students

-know about the workings of the EU?

-It's a very influential

-group of countries...

-..and which has a lot of power.

-Referendum?

-That's all. I'm not too sure!

-The stars on the flag.

-United Nations.

-Meetings. Government.

-Money.

-At the moment...

-..the 28 countries in the EU are

-travelling in the same direction...

-..and following the same rules.

-But two weeks ago, David Cameron

-was allowed to get into First Class.

-He wanted different rights for

-the UK, separate from the others.

-Cameron's deal means new rules

-which limit benefits paid...

-..to immigrants

-travelling to the UK.

-It also allows Britain

-to avoid any closer political union.

-Last week, the UKIP Spring

-Conference took place in Llandudno.

-As you can imagine...

-..the new deal wasn't being welcomed

-with open arms.

-I wanted David Cameron

-to come back with more powers.

-I wanted him to change the amount

-of money we put in to the EU.

-We put in 55 million every day.

-I wanted him to secure a reduction

-in how much we put in.

-Also, immigration control.

-He didn't come back with anything

-that people on the street wanted.

-It was a sham.

-Llyr Powell wants to leave the EU.

-He believes Wales

-would benefit financially...

-..without interference

-from Brussels.

-If we leave the European Union...

-..there will be more money available

-to invest in health.

-The farmers would have more money.

-We could do so many things.

-If we leave the European Union...

-..we can transfer powers

-to the Assembly.

-He feels that we would have better

-control on how to spend our money...

-..if we came out of Europe.

-When we talk about EU money, we must

-remember that it's really our money.

-They tell us what we can buy

-with the money.

-There are many restrictions

-on what the money can be used for.

-We can't invest the money

-in the NHS or education.

-With so many restrictions, we say

-that if we leave, it's our money...

-..and we'll use it

-where we think is fit.

-In Cardiff, Aled Morgan Hughes

-sees things differently...

-..and wants to stay in the EU.

-It's economic factors which are

-mainly responsible for my decision.

-Wales as a whole benefits hugely

-from the European Union.

-That's every person in Wales. For

-every 1 we put in, we get 40 out.

-This is also true

-in the agricultural sector.

-We receive about 200 million

-annually to assist our farmers.

-It's economically vital

-that we stay in the EU.

-In last year's General Election,

-a third of Welsh voters didn't vote.

-Aled believes that the EU referendum

-will generate a greater interest.

-As was proved

-in the Scottish referendum...

-..referenda excite people more

-than Assembly elections.

-Especially if it's something

-important like the European Union.

-People will take it for granted

-that they want to be a part of it.

-That will make them vote.

-I'm not sure what will happen.

-The polls are very close.

-They are all about fifty-fifty.

-That fact will motivate more people

-to vote because of the uncertainty.

-With less than four months to go

-and the polls so close...

-..Aled says it will be

-a highly-charged campaign.

-I'm very unsure abut the outcome.

-I strongly hope that we remain

-a member of the European Union.

-The polls are neck and neck.

-I hope that at the end of the day,

-as the referendum approaches...

-..people will realize that it's

-too much of a risk to leave...

-..and they will vote

-to stay in the EU.

-After winning some special terms

-for the UK...

-..the Prime Minister announced

-that a referendum would be held...

-..on 23 June.

-We will vote on whether

-the United Kingdom...

-..should remain a member

-of the European Union or not.

-If Britain votes to leave, and our

-carriages separate from the train...

-..will we prosper?

-Or will we be left in the station?

-The decision to stay or leave

-has split the Conservative Party.

-Guto has been to London to quiz

-an MP who disagrees with his leader.

-David Davies has been

-a Conservative MP since 2005.

-He wants to turn his back

-on Brussels.

-David Davies, MP for Monmouth.

-Why do you want to leave the EU?

-I think it's important

-to have control over our laws...

-..our money and our borders.

-The only way to do that is to vote

-to leave the European Union.

-But Wales benefits from hundreds

-of millions of EU money every year.

-Why should Wales vote

-to leave the European Union?

-It's not just about money...

-..but I don't accept the facts

-in the question.

-Britain puts in 20 billion

-into the European Union.

-We get 10 billion back

-but if we voted to leave...

-..we could double

-how much Wales receives.

-At the moment, we pay in

-twice as much as we get back.

-Why risk losing this money for Wales

-by voting to leave...

-..and just hoping Westminster

-would give us the same amount?

-MPs from every party

-would be far more accountable...

-..than current Members

-of the European Parliament.

-Nobody knows who they are.

-They don't have any influence over

-the decisions of the Commissioners.

-If we vote to leave,

-we will win back those powers.

-Surely it's a huge risk for Wales?

-We would be throwing the money

-we receive back to Brussels.

-It's a big risk to stay in.

-It's quite likely that Greece

-will pull out of its bailout.

-That will cost billions of pounds.

-They have lost control

-of European borders.

-We have seen millions of young men

-entering Europe illegally.

-We don't have control of benefits.

-We have to pay benefits to people

-who don't even live in Britain.

-If that wasn't true

-we would have a lot more money.

-The Prime Minister

-and leader of your party...

-..has secured a deal that ensures

-more control over benefits.

-He asked for a deal regarding

-benefits for immigrants...

-..but got almost nothing.

-I support the Prime Minister.

-He has done his best

-but he came back empty-handed.

-It's an example of the influence

-we currently have in Europe.

-We must have control

-over what happens in Britain.

-When policy affects Britain...

-..it's the elected politicians here

-who should be making the decisions.

-You disagree with the Prime Minister

-who is leader of your party.

-Are you worried...

-..that the European question

-will tear your party apart?

-At the moment, there are different

-opinions in the Conservative Party.

-The same is true in other parties,

-like the Labour Party.

-Your party in particular.

-Many Labour voters

-are worried about Europe.

-Many people on the left

-of the political spectrum...

-..will vote to leave the EU.

-I'm happy to work with them,

-with everyone, to leave.

-If, as you hope, Britain votes

-to leave the EU in June...

-..will that mean the end of David

-Cameron's leadership of the party...

-..and his tenure as Prime Minister?

-We have to be calm.

-It will take a few years...

-..to negotiate a new system.

-A system in which we can deal

-with Europe, trade with Europe...

-..and travel within Europe...

-..but in which we can make

-our own laws here in Britain.

-David Davies, thank you.

-David Davies, thank you.

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-Thank you.

-That's all for this evening.

-Next week, we'll investigate

-strong drugs which treat acne...

-..and speak to one girl who

-suffered horrendous side effects.

-Hacio, next Thursday.