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Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament live coverage of from the House of

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Commons. The Prime Minister will make a statement on the future of

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the Armed Forces. Including details of an extra ?12 billion of spending

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on equipment. They're also be two new strike rates by 2025. Statement

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is also expected to set the scene for David Cameron's tries to

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persuade the MPs that Britain should get involved with air strikes and

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serious. After that the government will try to put the all stages of

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the Northern Ireland Welfare Reform Bill. Is the latest all party built

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to keep the default demonstration up-and-coming. Has support of all,

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... Member to join me for the round up of the day in both houses at

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11:00pm. First we have questions to the Defense Secretary Michael Fallon

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and his team of ministers. First question is from Labour MP, Nick

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Smith about what steps he's taken to ensure that defence industry

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benefits the UK. The second question -- let's hear the question. Order!

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Order! Questions of the Secretary of State for Defense. Mr Nick Smith. Mr

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Speaker that should teach it to friends of security review will very

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shortly set out the honourable gentleman of the House how we will

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invest more and bigger and stronger defence for Britain. The British

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defence industry plays a vital role in helping to deliver more planes,

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ships and armour vehicles for our Armed Forces. We are looking at how

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we can drive greater innovation and how we can maximise the use of SMEs

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and how we can ensure the future decisions contribute to a more

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dynamic and productive economy. The important armoured vehicle programme

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for the Army has been in the pipeline for years. It uses Swedish

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Nibert is still. We have told our specialist steel makers... When will

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they ask they can produce this steel? As with all major defence

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programmes the contractors determine the materials, including sourcing

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still on the basis of comparative cost, time and quality. In 2010 no

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UK steel manufacturers were able to meet the prime contractors

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requirements so no UK supplied steel for the programme. I can confirm to

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the honourable gentleman that it takes a great deal of interest in

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this because Ajax vehicles will be assembled next his constituency,

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some 2700 tonnes around 30% of the still requirement remains open to

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competition. And our petition is already under way to suffice as a

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turning armour which is open for UK firms to apply. And number of

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colleagues and I visit our new magnificent aircraft carriers last

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week. There some interest that we learned this morning that apparently

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the government is intending to order a large number of joint shark

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fighters took with not only those aircraft carriers but also the world

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aircraft. I wonder if my honourable friend can confirm the truth in this

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substantial increase in our fighting capability. --. He's a very

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experienced member of his house. The after this defence questions we have

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a statement from the Prime Minister who I'm quite sure will be able to

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do that... Address the question he just posed to me? It is excellent to

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welcome the Minister again last week and to make another show of the

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bipartisan support we have for renewing the UK nuclear deterrent

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Ada. Is a still a prospect of getting the main boat before

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Christmas? -- vote. I am grateful for him for reminding the House back

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on Thursday last week I accompanied him into his constituency to

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recognise the signature of the contract for the fifth astute

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measure. It was good to think of many of his constituents who have

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been involved in the construction. With regard to the investment

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decision, I think again that is a subject that will come up shortly.

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Of course it is true that the defence industry can no longer

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sources requirements from the UK steel energy because of a loss of

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capability. Will he work with colleagues and with the defence

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industry and steel producers to ensure that there is a long-term

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plan for the future that UK still has developed the capabilities to

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work in this industry with light of work in this industry with light of

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course the Minister of defence is participating in the working group

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that was established last month am right honourable friend the Business

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Secretary. I have to say that while still is clearly a very significant

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and important component to match defence manufacturer, all of our

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major current programmes in work, the steel is involved it represents

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less than 1.5% of the total of steel manufactured in this country in

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2013. Relatively speaking, while important, it is a small pitcher

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Victor to the total steel produced in this country. Can I welcome the

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newspaper report we will see shortly that the deal is to reverse his own

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decision, one of the most visible signs in 2010 with the photographs

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of our materials being cut up into pieces. Can I get asked the Minister

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when will the first of these interactive service? The honourable

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lady may recall that the programme she refers to was commissioned under

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the previous Labour government, it was over ?1 billion over budget. It

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was reduced in scale under the previous Labour government to

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over... In the prototype aircraft that was produced had more defects

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than any other previous aircraft in production. We were not sure that it

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would ever fly. Was the right decision to take at the time and I

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was the right decision, the Prime Minister is about to announce it, to

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have a replacement capability. We will have to hear one that will be

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available. Mr Speaker, the UK has been about as vital capability for

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four years as a result of right or wrong, that decision that he refers

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to in 2010. Just today we read that Britain is have to call on native

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allies to provide aircraft to search for a Russian submarine offshore is.

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Can you give us a definite date for which he will again have our own

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maritime patrol aircraft. I am sorry to support the right honourable

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lady, but here we are 20 minutes to three. She has to be a little bit

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more patient and see what the Prime Minister announces in his favour and

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little this afternoon. I'm sure she will be there to hear the statement.

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The UK respects the sovereign responsibilities of the eight Arctic

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states, while promoting our own interests in the region. We engage

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with the security of the region through the Arctic security forces

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round table and of course directly with Arctic nations. We maintain a

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naval air assets capable of deploying to the region and Arctic

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trained and equipped forces including elements of re-commanding

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grades. I was confirmed that the Russian spy ship had passed through

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UK warders, this undermines the fact that Scotland... Will the Minister

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confirm when we will see UK enables efficient three days and when will

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we see the re-establishment of that? Place-mac I cannot confirm what he

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asked for. And he will wait until 3:30pm he should hear some excellent

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news for Scotland. There'll be no questions that they will be

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treating... That will lead to stress is if we do not have it corrected.

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The UK has a fantastic offer in terms of those were trained in the

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region. Secondly submarines, we have not trained our submarines to work

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under the Arctic ice. I am grateful for his question. He will have to

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wait until 3:30pm until confirmation on the feature of our capabilities.

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I have taken on board his point of under eye submarines. Perhaps I can

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help the minister with a question that does not involve waiting to

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3:30pm. My understanding is that a lot of our focus is on Northeast

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Africa. Would you agree that... That a Russian submarine, it would be

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naive to trust also take our ... Order! Can I gently implored members

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to proceed a little but were quickly. We have a lot to get

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through. Both questions and answers are lengthy. I really agree with the

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honourable member opposite. Mr Speaker, Ayrton patrol aircraft

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featured largely in last years referendum. What my honourable

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friend agree with me that they are pretty pointless. Manned or unmanned

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unless there is debate about gathering and analysis technology to

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do with it. And the wherewithal to respond to many threats that emerge,

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something the SMP felt to offer last year. -- failed. I entirely agree

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with my honourable friend indeed. Indeed. Behind bars is becoming one

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of the world strategic hotspot. With the Minister agree that a nation

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like ours to seek the assistance with friends in Canada and keeping a

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hostile submarine is embarrassing. Can he confirm that this is the

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fourth time we have had to call on such assistance? The honourable

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member will have to wait until 3:30pm for details. But, I will

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remind him that the defence Select Committee should the governments

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feel that the programme was dying. I am very glad that it will be

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possible to give better news later on today. The lack of naval

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capability in the high North is indeed a worry. Even at 14 months

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ago... With the Secretary of State, or the Minister like to take this

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opportunity to make sure that the promise that was made to them will

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indeed be kept. Will be agree with me that if that promises not kept it

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will be shameful. I cannot give him a detailed answer. But I can't say

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that the future of Carl Wood even brighter after 3:30 p.m.. We have

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just completed in the last few months of the largest far North

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exercise in history. -- the future of Scotland. I would like to answer

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this question with number 17. The United Kingdom is making significant

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top donor contribution to the international counter Isil programme

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is. And in helping to train Iraqi forces, in addition to the

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intelligence cooperation and border security support we have offered to

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France, the House will wish to know that I have authorised the use of

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IRS... As a divergent effort for French aircraft striking in Syria.

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Many of us on all sides of the awful support the government as they make

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the intelligent case for extending the air campaign into serious. We

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totally reject the accusation that such a movement will be a tester.

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Will my right honourable friend agree that our allies, not us, our

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allies will be diminishing Isil command control, restricting their

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ability to move en masse and restricting their ability to take

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control of more ground. Is it not time to stop subcontracting our

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security to our friends. -- Syria. I agree we should not lead the fight

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to French aircraft, American aircraft or Australian aircraft.

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While we are working to establish a inconclusive government in the Civil

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War and build more security for the Sunni areas of Syria, that should

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not delay us or deter us from degrading Isil in eastern Syria,

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from where they are directing their war in their region and directly

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threatening us. The chief of Defense staff said that not striking Isil in

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its heartland in Syria a football team trying to win a match without

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injuring the oppositions half. Is a long overdue that we pitched up the

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page and started to defend our goal line. -- pushed up the pitch. It

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moves between both, while the world Air Force can only strike in Iraq.

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It is a logical for us to be hitting Isil targets in Iraq while not

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targeting Isil poor leadership, its lines of communication and it

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revenue base, all found in Syria. What steps is he taking to squeeze

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the supply chain of Isil. They are not just supplied by organisations

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in the region, you must also be countries in establishment outside

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of the region supplying Isil with those arms. Yes, we are intensifying

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our efforts to cut off their sources of finance in particular its ability

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to sell oil on the international market. We are also directly

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targeting the supply route between Syria in Iraq,. The Democratic Union

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party holds political power in all three provinces, of northern Syria.

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Will the government be undertaking any communication or liaison with

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the PYP as it continues to exist in the region. This is a matter

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discussed recently the Prime Minister and the foreign defence

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minister of Turkey. We will want to see the pushback from that border

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and the pocket between the two of the Kurdish areas. Let me emphasise

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that all parties in Syria, Kurds, Shia, Sunni, Christian and Jews all

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have to be brought into the process to deliver Syria a more inclusive

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government backing and this Civil War. History gives us practically no

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examples of undetermined surrendering in response to the

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conventional air bombardment. What ground forces are credibly and

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seriously fighting Isil, Daesh in Syria other than some unpleasant

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Islamist groups, the Kurds in a limited area and the Syrian

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government army? There are moderate forces fighting Daesh into serious.

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But they have also been engaged in the Civil War this. The key is to

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end it as quickly as possible so that we can focus on dealing with

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Daesh. There are a number of troops already involved in that. -- Syria.

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We have been hoping -- helping to train them. He will continue to work

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with them to ensure that Syria is rid of I aside and Daesh. --. It

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talks about the aftermath of the terrorist attacks in Paris. The

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majority of victims were young Muslim women. Will the Secretary of

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State on the cross party consensus in this chamber and follow the

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example of President Hollande... Does he not accept that the language

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we use is important in millisecond next Muslims and terrorists is

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dangerous. I agree with almost all of that. I do not have time to read

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the report and the Independent that she refers to. I myself prefer the

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term Daesh as I think it is more accurate and it does not embrace the

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word Islam. But Isil has become, and Isis have become accepted terms, it

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may be too late to make that particular change. Does my right

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honourable friend agree that there's a direct threat to the UK and we

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should not consider all necessary steps to stop it on all fronts. I

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agree with that. I know my honourable friend will have noted

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the result though the resolution passed to that affect. We have to

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confirm it by all means at our disposal. Not in terms of defending

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our territory here, but striking searching groups in doing with the

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politically, culturally, financially and indeed ideologically. People on

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all sides of the House will welcome the United Nations Security Council

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resolution passed on Friday night. Calling on Member States to take all

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necessary measures against Isil /Daesh. Can the defence secretary

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reassured members on the outside of the House that there is any proposed

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military action in Syria there is also a parallel plan for peace to

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end the reign of terror and to have a timetable for traditional

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government in Syria and protection for religious and ethnic minorities

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in the country? I fully accept that we have to persuade them. There's a

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political track as well, the Prime Minister will be were prying towards

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the end of this week for the questions quite legitimately posed

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by the Foreign Affairs Committee to deal with exactly that. A

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traditional government put into place -- transitional. And how that

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will lead to the provision of security particularly in the Sunni

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areas in northern Syria. -- not in itself delay us from dealing with

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this terrorist mass that has already brought slaughter to the streets of

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Paris and has already resulted in the deaths of our own citizens on a

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beach in Tunisia and one of our citizens in Paris itself. It is

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dangerous to wounded enemy, especially if it is a wild beast are

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fighting, given that no air campaign alone has ever dislodged a

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determined enemy. After we bombed Syria, what is the plan, where's the

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strategy? Troops will we produce -- ground troops. The Iraqi forces and

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Kurdish forces will push Isis out of Iraq and we have had some success.

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In Syria we will need ground forces that are local, locally supported.

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When you talk to prime ministers in Baghdad, he does not want British

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troops or American troops on the ground. That will further

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radicalised the areas. Particularly in the Sunni areas, on the is a

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battle that has to be won by locally supported troops and local forces

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that have the support of the local population. -- not the terrorists

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for making a start in dealing with high school from where it is being

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directed -- dealing with Isil from where it is being directed. I will

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like to answer questions and for together. Is reflective in need of

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kind does not competitive price. UK suppliers have provided significant

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quantities of steel for programmes whatever they have been able to meet

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specified standards. Our new government guidelines published last

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week will help UK steel suppliers compete effectively with

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international suppliers. He will be aware that Swedish still Mac was

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used -- steel. Many in the still communities feel this is betrothed.

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Is the field that British produced steel should be specified in order

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to protect the industry. I am sure you will agree with me that the

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steel that is specified needs to be the steel that can do the job. Asked

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who can supply that, we are open-minded about that. We are

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adopting the new government guidelines in relation to the

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offshore patrol vessels Thomas on 20% of the requirement was sourced

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to UK steel. Other countries support the industries, why not Britain?

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This is why this government has set up a working group, the steel

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procurement group. The Ministry of Defense is sitting on that group and

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making sure that future orders are open to UK firms to tender. You can

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bet your bottom dollar, Mr Speaker, or I should say your bottom euro

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that European countries will not be abiding by European Union law as far

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as procurement is concerned. Can my honourable friend confirm, I ensure

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that he can, that we will do all that we can to secure Butte does not

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British steel is used provided the quality needed. The answer to your

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question is yes. No one who has listened to the ministers insisted

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they will have any real confidence that he is going to take any serious

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steps to ensure that British steel was used on the purchase of the...

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That we expect to hear about shortly. Can the Minister say a

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little bit more about measures he will take to justify the answer he

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has given to the honourable gentleman. Black B are able

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gentleman is right to point to the type 26 Booker meant as the next

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major platform. We are determined as a government that is keen to support

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our steel industry that contractors will have the industry to source

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that still from the UK. We will do as much as we can to help them with

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that. Clinical studies and audits have been undertaken by my

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defence... Those reports are a matter of public record. This is not

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our first line treatment and it makes up about 1% of our starts. For

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some people deployed in certain parts of the world it'll be the best

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drug to protect them from malaria. It is becoming that those who have

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had the drug had not been assessed fully before the usage. My

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constituents are those who are suffering most with a high level of

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potential suicides, increased mental concerns and stress level issues,

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can the Minister confirm that they will be doing a thorough review of

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the use of the drug. And all personnel will be assessed before it

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is used again? There is an individual risk

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assessment of the patient, but in addition to that, as soon as the

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prescription is entered onto the electronic record system, there is a

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warning that is flagged to ensure that the prescriber is absolutely

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sure that the recipient has had no mental health problems. In addition

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to that, that policy is altered by... I would save to all members of

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his house, that they have constituents think care about -- are

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concerned about, please seek medical help. Thank you Mr Speaker, I and

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Doris the honourable member for what they said. And I welcome the

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Minister's reply having suffered that myself and those consequences,

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I would ask her to look at the alternatives as to which there are

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several, less bad side effects. I thank the honourable gentleman for

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that and I would reassure him that this is not our first line drug. I'm

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afraid that certain parts of the world, and given individuals

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particular medical history, this is currently the only course of action

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sometimes. There is a coming online and that will be looked at.

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Supporting moderates is a key part of our help in Syria so they can

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take our place in the transitional government that is needed to defeat

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Isil and provide security throughout Syria. In the last 12 months, we

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have helped to train members of the moderate armed opposition and help

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save lives, bolstered civil society, counter extremism and lay the

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foundation for a better future in Syria. To the government not

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recognise that it is part of the solution to the Isis issue, we

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need... To the government not recognise this as a failed policy,

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by investing in the client in a proxy in Civil war, all we're doing

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is escalating that war and perpetuating it with a greater

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number of deaths? I do not agree with that. To work we are doing in

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Iraq to support the democratic government of Iraq, at its request,

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has stemmed and I on rush of Isil and has started to Bush Isil back,

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from the Euphrates, and we need to be doing this in Syria, coming to

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the aid of moderate forces in Syria who want to be free both of us odd

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who is bombing his own civilians and Isil that represents a threat to us

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all. What evidence is there on the ground that the free Syrian army is

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recalibrating its efforts, increasing it against Isil and

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reducing it against Assad? The picture in northern Syria is

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particularly confused, it is not a simple conflict with front lines as

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we would normally understand them. But it is our long-term objective

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that Syria should be free of both Assad and others to work -- we

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continue to work with others to provide the equipment they need and

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when we can, provide them with training outside Syria itself. Any

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consolidation of Air Force stations is being considered as part of the

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defence to put strategy. The threats we face are growing in scale,

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diversity, and complexity, therefore we are determined to configure our

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support of military capabilities. I'm grateful to my honourable friend

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for that answer and he will know that Lincolnshire is the home of the

:30:27.:30:32.

RAF. Can need give an agreement that that should remain the case and

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there are very good reasons for consolidating more personnel and

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assets into our County? My honourable friend is a champion, not

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only for his constituency but also for Lincolnshire. I am saying he is

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right that with the -- I cannot give any further details today, not even

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half past three, but I hope to have further information in due course.

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With permission Mr Speaker, I would like to answer questions eight and

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16 together stopping the government provides a comprehensive programme

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of support for ex-service personnel. This includes an excellent

:31:18.:31:20.

resettlement package for those returning to civilian life.

:31:21.:31:23.

High-quality pension and compensation schemes, and measures

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to meet health and welfare needs. The Armed Forces... Ensuring

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veterans are not disadvantaged as a part of their service in the armed

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forces. I thank the Minister for his response. Veterans represent the

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largest single cohort within the overall prison population. Can the

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Minister confirm with the department is doing to address this issue and

:31:49.:31:55.

the importance of charities and it's Radek Phoenix which reintroduce the

:31:56.:31:57.

offended in this important programme? My honourable friend will

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understand that veterans in prison are the responsibility of the

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Minister of Justice, however, the latest figures that I have suggest

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that the prison population which are veterans is three and a half

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percent. All prisoners with military history are eligible for services

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from the service and in addition, Armed Forces charities including the

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Royal... Sin caseworkers to support veterans in some prisons. Thank you

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Mr Speaker, embers of our armed forces put themselves not only great

:32:37.:32:40.

physical danger and also psychological pressures to defend

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our country and our people. What provisions are being put in place to

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help veterans of and others struggling with mental health

:32:50.:32:54.

issues? We are determined to ensure veterans with mental health issues

:32:55.:32:57.

are provided with appropriate support. England spends ?1.8 million

:32:58.:33:03.

every year on mental health services for veterans, including veteran

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mental health teams. A further ?18 million of funding is place to

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combat posttraumatic stress disorder programme for veterans. A further a

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4p of government funding will provide -- it will be provided over

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the next five years. What conversations have taken place with

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the chancellor to discuss the impact of tax credit courts on military

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families including those of military veterans? I'm sure this is an issue

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that has been discussed and will be addressed later this week when the

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Chancellor makes his announcement. What support is the Ministry of

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defence able to give local authorities like my own, which are

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very keen in establishing homes for heroes? I recently announce that we

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are about to undertake a review of this practice and following

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conversations with the chair of the local Government Association, we

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intend to do a review to ensure that best practices are now spread across

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local authorities across the UK. The social care crisis is affecting

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people across the country. Including those who sustained an injury or

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condition while serving our country. Is injured or heard after the 6th of

:34:21.:34:27.

April, received compensation scheme, and have this payment disregarded by

:34:28.:34:30.

local authorities and being assessed for social care. However those

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injured before that date are receiving war pension and don't.

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Will the government addresses in equality? This is primarily a letter

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for the Department of Health and I've been having a series of

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negotiations with my counterpart in the Ministry of health and I'm sure

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we will come back to the House in due course. Number nine Sir. With

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permission Mr Speaker I would like to answer questions nine and 11

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together. We expect to see small businesses take an increasing share

:35:00.:35:02.

in our defence budget. Since they provide a vital source of innovation

:35:03.:35:06.

and flexibility in meeting defence security requirements. In October,

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we mentioned a new target to increase the procurement to be spent

:35:11.:35:16.

with small medium enterprises to 25% by the end of this Parliament. This

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target is 10% higher than in the last Parliament. I thank the end of

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the mine minister for his answer. Can he outlined what role is in P is

:35:28.:35:35.

playing in the programme? Especially in the supply chain? The success of

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submarine from them it will be the largest project, where we expect 150

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suppliers across the UK will be involved. They will employ thousands

:35:46.:35:50.

of people in this very high skilled domain, using cutting-edge

:35:51.:35:53.

technology and they will keep the supply chain for Rose Royce... Where

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many of them will be as in and many of them will be within my honourable

:35:59.:36:06.

friend's constituency. No can you clarify how any small businesses in

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the defence supply chain can access the ?70 million investment that was

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announced last month? I would just pay tribute to the workforce and

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Lancashire, particular in the work they have an contributing every

:36:23.:36:28.

single one of the F 35, the largest procurement for Graham and the

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Globe. Mentioned last month by my honourable friend will have its due

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course, some even possibly in the next hour. What difference with the

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renewal of Trident make to the defence supply programme? As I just

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indicated to my right honourable friend, my honourable friend, the

:36:52.:36:57.

successor submarine programme will be the largest UK procurement of

:36:58.:37:01.

military capability for decades to come. That will filter through, I

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mentioned 150 suppliers, we think will be pertaining, it may be larger

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than that, it will be an enormous programme that will last for many

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years and sustained thousands of jobs right across the breadth of

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this country. With permission Mr Speaker, I should like to answer

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questions 12 and 18 together. The government came under force -- since

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then, the government has undertaken a range of actions to build it. Our

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fourth annual report to Parliament is due to be published next month

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and that will detail the progress we have made during the year. The

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government is committed to honour our pledges and encourage the wider

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society to think about their contributions. How will their

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commitments be measured so that certain councils and others can

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learn from the best and most proactive and that we can encourage

:37:54.:37:58.

others to up their game? I 2am grateful for this support, including

:37:59.:38:03.

Sussex, who demonstrate our arms forces communities. Many are

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extremely proactive. I wish -- to discuss what more we can do to

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encourage local authorities as they look to support our Armed Forces

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soup community. I understand the Minister for housing intends to

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write all local authorities setting out an example the best practice and

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are mighty that the need to arm them under the covenant. A veteran in my

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constituency suffers from mental health issues from military service.

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Is on the local council housing list but is one of two steps away from

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priority stages. Tonight urge the Minister to beef up the covenant and

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ensure our veterans are given priority status for housing as a

:38:45.:38:48.

matter of course? The government is determined to honour the commitments

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made by the Armed Forces covenant to ensure fair treatment of veterans

:38:52.:38:55.

and their families in need of social housing. Is why the government

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change the laws so that serving personnel and veterans with urgent

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housing needs must always be a higher priority for housing. It is

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up to local authorities however to make judgements about rises in their

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areas, I will of course raise this with my colleagues. -- 10% of our

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population are veterans, prison populace and. The honourable

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gentleman will be aware of the ?40 million which will be invested into

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the veterans accommodation fund, I work with a number of charities to

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ensure this issue, and he can see it for himself the Beacon home if he

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wishes to visit, or other places, I would encourage them to do so. Thank

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you Mr Speaker, in the last five years we have seen entitlements of

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service personnel cut copy a failure to return the micro group the -- we

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weight the... Does he accept that trading service personnel so

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shoddily will affect morale and can be seen as a breach of the military

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government? I was hoping to avoid these words but the honourable Lady

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will have to wait until 3:30pm. However, I am confident that the

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renumeration package will remain an excellent package for our service

:40:26.:40:28.

personnel, but she will have to wait a few more minutes to find out

:40:29.:40:32.

exactly whether or not to believe all of the reports she reads. This

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government believes we can and indeed will succeed in reforming and

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renegotiating our relationship with the EU. The cornerstone of our

:40:50.:40:55.

security is Nato, but the EU does play an important role in

:40:56.:41:00.

complementing Nato, for example, imposing sanctions on Russia

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recently, defence remains a sovereign issue. The UK together

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with the EU partners has worked hard in areas for example on EU trading

:41:12.:41:17.

missions, which had made a conservation to defence. With the

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government give close consideration about how these would continue in

:41:23.:41:26.

the future if Britain were to withdraw from the EU? I can only

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repeat my earlier answer, we are confident that the renegotiation

:41:35.:41:39.

will succeed, yes indeed, the mission he referred to in other

:41:40.:41:43.

missions including the one in Africa have been a success, he is right on

:41:44.:41:50.

that. Can I say to the Minister just in case the country votes to come

:41:51.:41:54.

out of the EU, wouldn't he welcomed a tremendous advantage of the Armed

:41:55.:41:59.

Forces, because the UK sends ?350 million to the EU each week, some of

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that money could be diverted to the Armed Forces and would not that be a

:42:04.:42:13.

good thing? My honourable friend is not, despite recollecting what might

:42:14.:42:17.

happen after withdrawal, what I will say is that I am delighted to be

:42:18.:42:21.

part of a government that is committed to spending 2% of the GDP

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on the... I think you will enjoy the announcement at 3:30pm. I should

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like to answer this question with number 15, we have seen Isil attacks

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in many places and around the world, including on premise is

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citizens in Paris. Isil poses a direct threat to the United Kingdom,

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which is why we need to work with the international Coalition to

:42:55.:42:58.

degrade and destroy Isil in Iraq and consider what more we can do to deal

:42:59.:43:04.

with its headquarters and heartland in Syria from where this threat

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comes. Given that Isil are using their base in Syria to plan attacks

:43:11.:43:14.

on the UK, does the Secretary of State agree with me that it is

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absolutely absurd to restrict the British Armed Forces to only act in

:43:19.:43:23.

an Iraq and not in powering them to act to British threats? There is a

:43:24.:43:30.

compelling case for us to do more in Syria, not least because what he

:43:31.:43:38.

says is it is illogical to not only tackle forces in Iraq. As the Prime

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Minister say, we must tackle the head of the snake and racked up and

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make our case to the House and country starting with my right

:43:48.:43:51.

honourable friend and his response to the committee report later this

:43:52.:43:58.

week. Mr Speaker, while cities like London are targets for terrorism,

:43:59.:44:03.

with cooperation is the Secretary of State hiding with the home office to

:44:04.:44:08.

do with other areas, shopping areas like my constituency could easily be

:44:09.:44:12.

just as under threat as central London was white we work closely

:44:13.:44:16.

with the home office, particularly on counterterrorism and providing

:44:17.:44:20.

assistance to back-ups of all capacity. We have 5000 troops

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trained and ready to support armed police forces, 24 hours notice, and

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we will be increasing the number shortly. We can only in the safety

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guarantee the safety of the United Kingdom by defeating Isil in both

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Iraq and Syria, and I hope he shares the new confidence of the chairman

:44:41.:44:46.

of this committee and the -- studies committee, conditions can be met

:44:47.:44:52.

following the attacks in Paris. The sovereign state is unable or

:44:53.:45:00.

unwilling to take action. To what extent does he think that applies to

:45:01.:45:05.

Daesh and the Taliban in Afghanistan when it was supporting IK,

:45:06.:45:12.

Al-Qaeda? There is already a clear legal basis for military action

:45:13.:45:16.

against Isil in Syria, which does not require a United Nations

:45:17.:45:21.

resolution, but I hope nonetheless that he will welcome Security

:45:22.:45:27.

Council resolution, which provides clear and unanimous political

:45:28.:45:31.

endorsement by the entire international community for the

:45:32.:45:34.

military action already being taken by the counter Isil organisation?

:45:35.:45:45.

Why is the government turning a blind eye to Isil selling oil to

:45:46.:45:49.

these Nato powers? The government is not turning a blind eye, on the

:45:50.:45:54.

contrary we are doing our best to interject the supplies of oil and

:45:55.:46:00.

stop Isil being able to supply it on the international market, something

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I discussed with Syria up's neighbours, and we also need to stop

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them from selling to the Syria and regime itself. My immediate

:46:12.:46:21.

priorities are operations against Isil and the strategic defence

:46:22.:46:25.

security review. July's announcement of the defence budget will increase

:46:26.:46:29.

every year of this Parliament and that we'll continue to meet the Nato

:46:30.:46:33.

2% target means that we are able to decide very shortly what further

:46:34.:46:39.

capabilities and equipment we need to keep this country safe. I'm

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delighted to host the Secretary of State on a visit to my constituency.

:46:46.:46:51.

Is it a sign of the national security and economic security that

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they signed a 300 million pounds contract for the latest missiles

:46:57.:47:03.

manufactured out of news sites safeguarding 400 high-tech jobs?

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Yes, I do recall my visit and this is part of our now plan, to provide

:47:10.:47:17.

the very best capabilities for our armed forces. These advanced

:47:18.:47:22.

short-range air to air missiles will equip our jets with battle winning

:47:23.:47:28.

technologies. Helping to protect airspace and defend our Nato allies

:47:29.:47:33.

and sustained highly skilled jobs in the new 30 million pounds plan and

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also. Mr Speaker, one of the many things in the telegraph this morning

:47:49.:47:56.

was at the MOD will purchase five or forgets them planned. Does the

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Minister share with me a concern that we need enough forgets to

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protect our carriers in operations. Any reduction to the sleep will

:48:08.:48:14.

impair the carriers? I can't ensure the honourable member and I'm

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delighted to see display. I can ensure the honourable member that we

:48:20.:48:23.

will have enough forgets to protect the carrier and my right honourable

:48:24.:48:26.

friend the Prime Minister will be making very clear the forget

:48:27.:48:31.

replacement programmes in just a few minutes time. For the Minister

:48:32.:48:39.

advise the House on innovations to working with the MOD. Will he take

:48:40.:48:42.

the opportunity to spell out the role that he sees for things in

:48:43.:48:51.

strategic defence in the UK? We recognise the importance of

:48:52.:48:54.

innovation and the STL does do vital work within this department. In

:48:55.:48:58.

leading science and technology initiatives to provide capability

:48:59.:49:02.

advances for our Armed Forces and we expected to sell, through the

:49:03.:49:08.

support he gives to universal technical college and places Indians

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constituency? Mr Speaker, medicine sent frontier -- Doctors Without

:49:17.:49:22.

Borders reports that Damascus was hit on Thursday. Increasing the

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numbers of civilian casualties in Syria. In light of Friday's

:49:29.:49:36.

resolution in Syria, could the Secretary of State detailed the

:49:37.:49:40.

additional measures that will be taken to provide safe passage and

:49:41.:49:44.

resettlement for civilian refugees, should the UK vote to participate in

:49:45.:49:53.

air strikes? Prior to that taking place, I have met with a number of

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NGOs about a range of issues that the honourable Lady touches on and I

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can ensure that this is at the forefront of our minds. Part of the

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reason for wanting to do more in this place is to prevent innocent

:50:07.:50:10.

civilians from being brutally slaughtered. Given recent media

:50:11.:50:18.

coverage about the different views across this house on Trident

:50:19.:50:22.

renewal, could my right honourable friend tell me who is responsible

:50:23.:50:27.

for deciding government policy, specifically on the issue of

:50:28.:50:31.

Trident? Flemmi reassure my friend that policy on this side of the

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House is decided by the Prime Minister, the Cabinet, and indeed

:50:36.:50:42.

the whole government and the whole parliamentary parties are united on

:50:43.:50:46.

the commitment that we made to renew the deterrent and I would urge

:50:47.:50:53.

moderate MPs offices to turn out tomorrow and vote to support the

:50:54.:50:57.

deterrent that every previous Labour government has supported since it

:50:58.:51:03.

was introduced. What assessment is the government making of the high

:51:04.:51:09.

military capability that Assad has right now? Missile systems and where

:51:10.:51:15.

they located and what other high-tech equipment falling into the

:51:16.:51:21.

hands of Isis? We make very clear, we make sure that our own aircraft

:51:22.:51:28.

are equipped with the defensive AIDS that are necessary in each

:51:29.:51:33.

particular setting, but what we need to do is bring both of these, the

:51:34.:51:39.

Civil War in Syria to an end and then focus on the task at hand which

:51:40.:51:54.

is destroying Isil in its heartland? With the Minister assure me with the

:51:55.:52:00.

evaluation of the defence of state being undertaken, the social

:52:01.:52:07.

economic policy, importance is taken into consideration? Bawled the

:52:08.:52:13.

defensive state is primarily given to sick to the MOD does support

:52:14.:52:20.

authorities and any impact on changes particularly when it comes

:52:21.:52:25.

to the opportunity for the local resources as part of future campaign

:52:26.:52:33.

banning. Lockheed Martin submitted maritime patrol aircraft contract,

:52:34.:52:43.

this aircraft costs around 40% of Boeing's which is 80%... Can the

:52:44.:52:49.

Minister please anoint the House as to the process undertaken to win

:52:50.:52:56.

this contract ultimately, for the costly alternative which is not

:52:57.:53:00.

supported by British programmes? This is another one of those

:53:01.:53:04.

occasions where the honourable Lady will have to wait for a few moments

:53:05.:53:08.

for the Prime Minister. What I can say to her is that in the event that

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an MPA would be to -- would be procured as part of the programme,

:53:15.:53:18.

some billion dollars worth of the programme is supplied by British

:53:19.:53:25.

companies. Thank you Mr Speaker, I personally agree with the government

:53:26.:53:31.

that Isil Daesh must be Christian Democrats in Syria as well as in

:53:32.:53:35.

Iraq. But, the Secretary of State has made it clear that he wants to

:53:36.:53:41.

cede the Syria and army forces defeated as well. We are being told

:53:42.:53:47.

to be more like church old Dan Chamberlain. Does the state

:53:48.:53:53.

government minister recognise that Churchill's great strength was that

:53:54.:53:56.

he knew when to recognise which is the greater and lesser of two evils

:53:57.:54:03.

and that is why he was willing sometimes to fight alongside

:54:04.:54:06.

unsavoury allies against a common deadly enemy? Let me just say that

:54:07.:54:14.

my honourable friend that I always thought that Churchill's greatest

:54:15.:54:19.

strength was confronted -- when confronted by a direct threat to

:54:20.:54:22.

this country to be determined to do something about it. Thank you Mr

:54:23.:54:30.

Speaker, Armed Forces being the smallest they have been since the

:54:31.:54:34.

middle of the 19th century, with the Minister said that if the UK was to

:54:35.:54:39.

exit the European Union, this would significantly undermine our

:54:40.:54:42.

intelligence and security Russian ships at a time when we need these

:54:43.:54:49.

relationships the most? I do not accept that. Of course the

:54:50.:54:53.

membership of the union has allowed us to be imposing sanctions on

:54:54.:55:00.

Russia for the action it took an crime area stopping -- Crimea. The

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bulk of our defence rests on our membership of the Nato alliance. Mr

:55:10.:55:17.

Speaker, at a time when it is clear that our nuclear capabilities is

:55:18.:55:21.

cute, can the Minister perhaps provide some update on the progress

:55:22.:55:28.

in delivering our nuclear things to the submarines? I was delighted last

:55:29.:55:35.

Thursday to announce the ?1.3 billion contract. We will save money

:55:36.:55:42.

from the text layer, we would deliver this summer in ahead of

:55:43.:55:45.

schedule of the previous one, and we are on track. I agree with the

:55:46.:55:51.

defence secretary that Isil poses a very direct threat to the UK, but I

:55:52.:55:55.

wonder if he agrees with me that if the government has to take military

:55:56.:55:59.

action against Syria, it needs to be framed within a writer strategy to

:56:00.:56:04.

be military action can only service one strand of that wider campaign,

:56:05.:56:10.

the government also needs to lead political and diplomatic tools that

:56:11.:56:14.

they have at their disposal. I completely agree with that. Any

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military strategy to deal with Isil in Syria as well as in Iraq has to

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be be a part of a wider campaign to win this struggle against Isil,

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politically and diplomatically to construct a moderate government in

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Syria that has the support of all sections of Syrian society and to

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show how that will lead to greater security in the Sunni areas in

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particular in northern Syria, once Isil is defeated in its heartland.

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What is our noninvolvement in air strikes have in terms of

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international partners? A decision to do nothing has

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consequences. As my honourable friend has alluded to it has had

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severe consequences not simply in the reputation of this country with

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its allies, but in the consequences in Syria itself or he has seen a

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vicious silver war. Hundreds of thousands killed. And millions

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displaced as a result of a decision by the West not to get involved and

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to put a stop to it two years ago. It does seem strange that that we

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give high-level British forces training to those fighting Isil, but

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we do not give them any of our equipment. So they end up fighting

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with Russian or other weapons. Are we going to look at changing that so

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they get all of the armour, medical supplies and hardware. I'm happy to

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reassure the honourable gentleman that as well as providing excellent

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training we are also gifting non-lethal equipment. What my right

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honourable friend agree with me that to say we can eradicate Daesh

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through negotiation of -- alone is not enough. If we want to tackle

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this issue we need to use all of the force at our ability? I agree with

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that. That is reflected in the United Nations resolution. Isil is

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making -- has made no demands of those that it wants to slaughter in

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Paris the week before last. This is not an organisation that we can

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possibly negotiate with or employee diplomacy. It has to be defeated

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using all means at our disposal, including military means. Having

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seen first-hand the best clubs that were first -- were first established

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Upon Hall, what more can the government do to support these

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initiatives started by veterans themselves? I have to agree with the

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honourable Lady. It is an

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