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It stopped and 2724 hours before the general election. And then again

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three weeks later. Paul Cook good morning and welcome

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to the live coverage of the Commons. It's that time of the week again in

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half an hour David Cameron will be facing the Labour leader Jeremy

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Corbyn plus backbench MPs for the latest round of Prime Minister's

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Questions. Then at 1230, there will be a statement from the Home

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Secretary Theresa May following yesterday's conclusion to the

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inquest into the deaths of the 96 Liverpool football supporters at the

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Hillsborough ground in Sheffield in April 19 89. The main business today

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will be a debate on changes peers have made to the trade union Bill,

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parts of the bill could now go through what's called Parliamentary

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ping-pong batting between the two houses until one concedes defeat.

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Don't forget to join me, Keith McDougall, for a round-up of the day

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in both Houses of Parliament at 11pm tonight. First its questions to the

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Cabinet office minister Matthew Hancock and his team. The first

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question from the SNP's Martin Doherty Hughes concerns and steps

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being taken to increase active participation in democracy. Order,

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order. Questions to the Minister for the Cabinet office. Martin Doherty

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Hughes. Some elements of participation like polling day

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turnout life are beyond the powers of mere Government and depend on the

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importance of the poll and the brilliance or otherwise of

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campaigns. Government can help things like voter registration and

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we are about to begin countless pilots to make the registration

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process quicker, cheaper and more digital. Were also working with a

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British youth Council, and universities UK to encourage and

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registered groups to sign up and we are partnering with the embassies

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abroad and electoral commission to run registration drives in the

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run-up to the polls on May the 5th of June 21. I'm grateful for the

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ministers answer but nevertheless the week before the Scottish

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Parliament elections, the Welsh Assembly and the Northern Irish

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assembly, this Government has overseen the disenfranchised of over

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770,000 people by the introduction of a self-assessment terms of

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registration process, how can the Government helmets had up and say

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increasing participation? The registrars are being reduced by the

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entries are people of moved House or died. They are not therefore likely

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to turn up vote. There is a parallel problem which is of the missing

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millions of people who've never been on the register and need to be found

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for that we can't cross them off because they aren't on it but we

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all, collectively, on a cross-party basis, need to get out there these

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people up. If he wants to join in a deputation to do so, I be delighted

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to help. Michael fabricant. Equally as important as ensuring that those

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who are entitled to vote are able to vote, it is to make sure that

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genuine candidates are not disenfranchised by those people who

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get onto the electrical register who oughtn't to be there because thereon

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thereby fraud. Absolutely, it is crucially important we have a

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register which is both complete and accurate and therefore I'm looking

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forward with great anticipation to the report by the Member for

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Brentford into electoral fraud which will cover this. What specific work

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if the Government doing with students and young people to ensure

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that they are both registered about? Mr Speaker, we are working with

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universities UK and the Association of colleges, great deal of work

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being done in universities to examine very closely the work being

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done in places like Sheffield University to sign up students when

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they first arrive and enrol at the University of cell, serve as a great

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deal we can do but probably more as well. I would like to congratulate

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the Government on driving up Democratic participation in the EU

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referendum. By publishing their leaflet, the Government leaflet,

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which is up for the Pulitzer prize for the best works of fiction. What

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the Minister agree with me that that is driving more people to take part

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in the EU referendum because they're so cross and want to leave? I'm glad

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that my honourable friend enjoyed the read. I would just point out to

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him about 85% of the population said they want to hear more about the

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issues from the Government but if it does serve to drive a participation

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amongst remainders or levers, I'm sure he and I will both be pleased.

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Thank you. There is much concern about the Government's new proposals

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for Public appointments in that they might decrease social mobility, Sir

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David Normanton has said that the grim stone's proposals will enable

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ministers to set their own rules, override them whenever they want,

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point their own selection panels, get preferential treatment for

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favourite candidates, ignore the panels advise that they don't like

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it, and appoint someone considered by the panel as not up to the job.

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What the Minister like to answer that question? I'm sure the

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honourable gentleman is concerned about the appointment in the context

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of the drive to increase democratic participation. Yes, social mobility

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and public appointment is very important for the democratic

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participation. I'm not quite sure how I linked any kind of answer to

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democratic participation but I will nonetheless point out we are

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adhering consistently to the principles and everything we're

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doing in this area. I appreciate the ministers answers to my treated

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question. I don't believe everything I read in the papers. But this week

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it was revealed the culture secretary appointed, recommended

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five candidates for a trustee of the public gallery, three of them were

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Tony tourers -- donors and one was a former Tory minister. Is that the

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way we do democratic participation for Tory cronies? I suspect the

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honourable gentleman is trying to raise a serious point but that ideas

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to the principle of a whole and you should stop digging. Rebecca Paola.

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Question number two, Mr Speaker. We have ambitious plans to make NCSA

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rite of passage for young people. We have committed over ?1 billion to

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grow the programme to reach the majority of 16-year-olds by 2021 and

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we would like them to benefit regardless of where they live in the

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UK. It is therefore extremely disappointing there is currently no

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NCS programme in Scotland or Wales, despite the generous funding made

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available through the autumn spending review. Last summer I was

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invited to a highly successful launch event for veterans and others

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organised by young people through the National citizens service scheme

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and this year, on that scheme, they are running a social action project

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which involves creating a sensory garden for young adults with

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learning difficulties. Does he agree with me that the skills learned

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through this programme, confidence building teamwork, I make no real

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difference to young getting into work and closing our skills gap?

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Yes, indeed, it's absolutely true that NCS is creating a generation of

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more responsible and engaged young people. The skills being developed

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by NCS participants in Taunton are echoed widely around England and

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Northern Ireland, indeed, 90% of participants say it helps them

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develop these skills for the future. NCS is now recognised by UCAS and

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taking part is becoming a very sought-after addition to any young

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person's CV. The Minister will know I'm a great supporter of the

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National citizens service, but isn't it true that it is underfunded and

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come at the moment, we have got to be honest, it's reaching down mostly

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into more affluent communities and not those communities with kids from

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poorer backgrounds. That's the truth. He should do something about

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it. 200,000 young people have been through the NCS programme so far and

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we're aiming to get up significantly and it made ?1 billion available to

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do so, but what I would say to him is, in terms of diversity, we are

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doing extremely well, 21% of participants are eligible for free

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school meals compared to the national average, at 8%, and 27% of

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participants are from non-white backgrounds compared to 90% across

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the country, so we are doing better than the national average. The

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Government of the group this question with question before. Some

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reason, didn't do so but I will take the question now. I'm very grateful.

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I'm grateful for his earlier answer and it's right to say NCS is proving

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invaluable for young people across the country. In Dorset there was

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recently a successful scheme about replanting trees. I would be

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grateful if he could give advice and guidance to members on both sides as

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to how they can get more involved in this excellent scheme best mark

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well, I know he's doing he can all he can to support it in his

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constituency and every member of the House can help by visiting a local

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NCS programme to raise awareness and ensure local schools and colleges

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are encouraging students to but is about. The Secretary of State for

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Education and I will soon write to all members of this House to

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highlight how everyone can make their contribution to NCS. I've

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visited NCS in my constituency and I was hugely impressed with the work

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we're doing with young people on that particular scheme but many of

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the young people more widely raised the cats to youth services so I

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wonder whether any impact assessment has been done by the Minister as to

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how, why cats have impacted on the aims and objectives of the NCS

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programme? I thank you for that question and it gives me the

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opportunity to say how disappointed I am local authorities are choosing

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to make cuts in their local service provision. But we are investing over

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?1 billion in NCS over this Parliament. The overwhelming

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majority of that funding will flow through delivery organisations, most

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of whom are public or the CF he voluntary organisations and beyond

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that we are also investing more widely in the sector through

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programmes like the British youth Council and Stepped Up To Serve to

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reshape the local youth provision. The Minister gave the sadistic

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barely in response to his question but could you tell us what steps he

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is taking to encourage the participation in NCS of those young

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people with this kind of background? Can I thank again for asking about

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these participation clubs, because it is really important every young

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person gets the opportunity, to take part in NCS because it creates a

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more cohesive society, it adds a social mobility, social engagement,

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but also with the programme which delivers value for money and those

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statistics I cited earlier show this is a programme the Government and

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the whole country can be very proud of. Patrick Grady. Number three, Mr

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Speaker. With your permission, I would like to take questions three

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and six together. And set out earlier this month we are continuing

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to work with charities, universities and others on this issue, the

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principle of clay, tax payers money should not be wasted on Government

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lobbying Government. Will he not admit that this policy

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is a mess and he has been forced into a U-turn? Will he undertake to

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urgently review the operation of the entire class, at the very least

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commit to an ongoing reviews that we can be sure that the freedom of

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speech of others organisations and charities is not undermined? As we

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have said, we are reviewing representations and will take a

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decision on the form of the clause and we are pausing on implementation

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but we are committed to this. To ensure that taxpayer's money is used

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in the good causes for which it is intended and not wasted on

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Government lobbying Government. Six years after the Government promised

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to crack down on lobbying, the big corporate lobbyists are free to

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lobby in secret and anonymously, but charities have had their lives made

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a misery by new bureaucracy. Why do they persistently dabble in the

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shallows, worrying the medals while the big, fat salmon swim by

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unhindered? -- minnows. I am an enormous supporter of charities but

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what I find extraordinary is that the honourable gentleman seems to be

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a supporter of lobbyists using money, but only when it comes from

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taxpayers. I think taxpayer's money should be put to better use. Mr

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Speaker, does my honourable friend agree with me that when our

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constituents give money to charity, they expected to be used directly to

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help those disadvantaged people the charity claims to help, and if they

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wanted it to be used for political lobbying, they would have made a

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donation to a political party? Mr Speaker, I could not have put it

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better myself. Would my honourable friend not agree that when people

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donate money, they want to see the money

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being provided by a charity and most people in this country would be

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shocked at the amount of money spent on administration and lobbying. My

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honourable friend makes an important point, which is that charities play

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an enormous role in alleviating suffering, in improving good causes,

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and in strengthening our communities, and let's make sure

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that where money is donated to a charity, as many if not all of us on

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this house do and many people around the country, that that is spent on

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the good causes that it is intended for. Mr Speaker, this Government has

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succeeded in uniting the entire British voluntary sector against it.

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Including household names like the girl guide, Mencap and Oxfam.

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Indeed, its actions are reminiscent of the Algerian regime. I would like

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to ask the minister this. If voluntary organisations, cross

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systemic child abuse or female genital mutilation -- are they

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really saying they need to remain silent when a change in the law

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could make these practices outlawed? It seems an absurd suggestion, but

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the principle that taxpayer's money should not be used to lobby

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Government is a perfectly reasonable one and I would say one that most

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people support. A leading board member of the Charity commission has

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written an essay calling for the UK to leave the EU. This essay comes

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after the Charity commission tried to clamp down on charities engaging

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in the EU debate. If the Minister able to explain why the Charity

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commission appears to be explaining to as I say, not as I do. I welcomed

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his voice but it flies in the face of their own recent gagging clauses.

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Can he now confirmed that it is the case that charities are allowed to

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speak out, but only if they agree with the Minister? No. In the last

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round, my honourable friend will remember that we held a referendum

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where this country resoundingly rejected a proposal to abandon our

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tried and tested first past the in favour of an alternative. I believe

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we should respect that result and the clear democratic decision is

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addressed the presents, and therefore we have no plans to change

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the voting system. Given that the British people voted overwhelmingly

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for first past the post, does my honourable friend agree with me that

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as with all referendums, the result is final when settled and that the

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Government is absolutely right to push ahead with delivering its vital

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manifesto commitments? Mr Speaker, as in many things, I could not have

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put it better myself. The honourable gentleman's timing

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could be improved in future. Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. When it

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comes to electoral reform, in Northern Ireland, we're all of

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electoral offices. Surely part of electoral reform is trying to get

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more people involved and closing electoral offices is the way -- is

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the wrong way to do it? I will not trample on the poor views of the

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default administrations and the Northern Ireland Office but I would

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say if you would like to write to me with more details, I would be happy

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to respond. If the Government looking seriously at how the

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security challenges of online voting might be overcome so that future

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generations of young people could actually vote online in this

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country, safely and securely and thereby increasing voter

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registration? And participation? My honourable friend is absolutely

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right that online activity is an increasing part of our everyday

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lives, whether it is shopping or everything else, and as technology

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improves and as online voting becomes steadily more secure, then

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it is something which we will need to continue to revisit. At the

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moment, the prospects of potentially stealing the Government of a country

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are too great to allow it to happen as yet. Will the Minister agree that

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we must do everything possible to bring power closest to people in

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every part of the country and a good start would be to make it easier for

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people to engage in politics? I absolutely would agree with that and

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as I said in my remarks in response to an earlier set of questions,

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there is a great deal which governments can do, but of course

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there is a great deal which political parties and others need to

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do as well to engage the interests of the voters. I thank my honourable

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friend for his question and his work for social mobility in the house. In

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our mission to increase social mobility, we are working with a

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number of leading businesses and organisations in our plans to

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improve my chances across the nations. This includes the civil

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service is pushing ahead with the delivery of more than 30,000 of the

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overall 300 million apprenticeships which will start by 2020,

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introducing named live recruitment and leading the development of a new

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national common measure of social economic diversity for employers. It

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is vital that the civil service reflects the society it serves. Good

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might honourable friend explain how the Government is acting on the

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recommendations made in the report of the Bridge group? Well, my

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honourable friend will be pleased to know that we are accepting every

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part of the recommendations of the bridge report and I say this to him

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because he will know that we are the party of the ladder. We are the

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party of social mobility and the party of the living wage, the party

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of lower taxes for Middle earners, and the party that brings millions

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and millions of jobs. Topical question number one. Mr Speaker, the

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Cabinet Office is responsible for efficiency in reforming Government

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for transparency civil society, digital technology, cyber security,

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and for delivering the Government's agenda. I commend my honourable

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friend for releasing vast amounts of Government data which will improve

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transparency across Government. What further action can he take to ensure

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that performance improves, transparency is available to the

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general public, and their data is in a manageable form so that people can

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analyse it? By honourable friend is right that it is not only about

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releasing more information, it is about releasing it in a way that is

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usable, but I can announce to the house that we have now as a

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Government since 2010 released 27,000 open data sets, eight new

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high, and it goes to show that we are the most transparent Government

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ever. British troops serve fewer years in Iraq. But the first and

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Second World War did not take as long as it has taken to publish the

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Chilcott report. Will the Minister gave my friend whose son who died in

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the Iraq war and apology for these delays and also promised that they

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will be able to see the embargoed report? I understand the member's

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concern and the concern of his constituents. He will note that the

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timing of publication of the matter for the independent enquiry. It has

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set out a timetable. National security checking is very important

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and will take place appropriately and thankfully we will get to the

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end of this conclusion of this process soon. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

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Government needs to keep up with the digital revolution and I applaud the

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minister's efforts to ensure this is being done. Does he agree with me

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that as more interaction between citizens and Government is

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increasingly taking place online, cyber security must keep pace? I

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entirely agree with my honourable friend. He is absolutely right that

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cyber security is increasingly important, not just 40 minute

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station between citizens and the Government but also any wide range

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of businesses and that is why we have laid aside ?1.9 billion in this

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Parliament to improve our cyber security and why we are creating a

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new cyber Security centre. Thank you. We have heard earlier on the

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anti-lobbying clause the Secretary of State determined to introduce any

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drive to clean up politics. The lobbying Scotland act, unlike UK

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rules, covers lobbying of endless peace. Does he have any plans to

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expand the scope to cover lobbying of MPs? Well, we brought in the

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lobbying act in the last parliament. There was progress made on this

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issue. But the crucial point about tackling lobbying through grants is

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that taxpayer's money should be spent on the things it is intended

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for not spent on lobbying Government. Damian Collins. The Fifa

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corruption scandal and other scandals around the world have sold

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a need for a more integrated international approach to tackling

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corruption. Will the Minister be present at the anti-corruption

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Summit next month? In short, yes. That is also part of the global

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goals which my honourable friend the Prime Minister led the world in

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establishing, the development goals, one of the targets within that is to

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reduce that kind of corruption and we will be emphasising that in our

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work and lamenting our part in fulfilling those targets. Mr

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Speaker, what steps has the Minister taken to make his colleagues aware

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of the disastrous impact the trade union Bill had on relations with

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civil servants? The trade union Bill, which is currently before

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Parliament, takes important steps to modernise the relationship between

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trade unions and their members, because while trade unions play a

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very important part in our national life, and they represent the

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interests of many, they don't represent the interests of all, and

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we got to make sure that that relationship is modern and

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appropriate. Order. There is a lot of noise in the chamber. The

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Minister must be very disappointed to have such an inattentive

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audience. Let's hear the words! Mr Speaker, in return to individual

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electronic registration and in addition to today 's proposition to

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the honourable member for West Dunbartonshire, can the Minister

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give further assurance that all steps are being taken to engage

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harder to reach groups such as private renters of which there are

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very many in my constituency? Yes, indeed. We are determined to reach

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out to a new set of potential electors who have failed to

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register, as my honourable friend was making clear earlier in our

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proceedings, but I should also tell my honourable friend that every

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single person whose name appeared in the old register and who has been

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discounted from the individual electoral registration will have

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been approached at least nine times before their name is removed. Appeal

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to ministers to face the house. When I used to work for a charity, I was

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often called by the Ministry of Justice, the Home Office to give

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expert advice, on one occasion do a very anxious Minister just before

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home affairs Select Committee. Under the new anti-advocacy clause, can I

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ask whether charity specialists will continue to be able to help the

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Government, or will the new rule only apply when it suits Government

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rather than when it suits the public? Of course charities will be

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able to contribute to debate and they will be able to advise

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researchers will be able to bring forward their world beating ideas,

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but this idea is supported by the Labour Party that taxpayer's money

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should be used for paid lobbyists, we are going to put a stop to that.

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I welcome the Government's commitment to improving social

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mobility in these civil service. Will the Minister join me in

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encouraging more private sector employees to do the same? I would

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strongly endorse that approach, Mr Speaker. If you or if any other

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member has not already been involved in an inspiring the future event, I

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would encourage you to do so because it is not only good for the country,

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it is an incredibly enjoyable way to spend some time. 67% of people in

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the senior civil service were based in London last year, which was the

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highest proportion in the last five years. Does the Minister not accept

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that his policy in moving civil servants out of London and into the

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regions is failing? Well, we are introducing regional hubs for the

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civil service and of course there are many UK civil servants who work

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in Scotland and support the people in Scotland, but it is inevitable

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and we have got to make sure they represent the country that they

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serve. We know that special advisers are required to submit their e-mails

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and their telephones to public view because that is under the Freedom of

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Information Act. What is the policy of the Government on the question of

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using various applications which they are using to conceal Government

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business from public view? I have never personally use the service in

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my life, but I am happy to be able to reassure him that all aspects of

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Government business are properly regarded and subject to freedom of

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information requests as normal despite the rumours he has heard.

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