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THE SPEAKER: Order. Questions to the Secretary of State for the Home | :00:00. | :00:16. | |
Department, Mr Even Mearns. Number 1, Mr Speaker. Thank you Mr Speaker, | :00:17. | :00:22. | |
I'm in regular discussions with the Secretary of State for Educ`tion on | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
all aspects of international students. We'll be launching a | :00:26. | :00:30. | |
consultation on changes to the non-EU work and study migration | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
routes and I would encouragd all interested parties to participate. | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
Mr Speaker, the Government has previously suggested that tdns of | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
thousands of international students break the terms of their visa by | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
overstaying. But we also know that international students contribute | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
almost ?11 billion to the UK economy and make up about 30% of | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
universities' revenues from non EU international students. Analysis | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
conducted by her own departlent shows that only 1% of international | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
students break the terms of their visa arrangements, so will the | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
Secretary of State confirm that this is the case, that this is the case, | :01:05. | :01:10. | |
the 1%, and if so, what steps will they take to encourage more | :01:11. | :01:13. | |
international students, who are a benefit to our economy, to our you | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
EU universities and particularly universities in placis like the | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
North East of England? I th`nk the honourable gentleman for th`t | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
question. He is right, studdnt immigration plays an import`nt role, | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
supporting our world class university system as well as being | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
part of the great British economy in terms of exports. Had at thd | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
referring to very encouraging work from my department about getting a | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
more pro sighs hold on the number of overstayers we have. That work is at | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
earn stage. We hope it will be able to give us more confidence `bout who | :01:51. | :01:57. | |
leaves as well as who arrivds. Isn't it the case that post Brexit we can | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
design a student visa questhon that will attract the best and brightest | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
from around the world, from within the EU and outside the EU whilst at | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
the same time regularising the treatment of English students and EU | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
students in Scotland, which is presently different? Well, H can | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
reassure my honourable friend that our policy will remain post Brexit | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
and pre-Brexit as it is, whhch is to encourage the brightest and the best | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
to come to this country, whdre they contribute to our economy and to our | :02:26. | :02:32. | |
cultural life. Barely a fortnight ago the Chancellor told the Treasury | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
committee that policy should be guided by public opinion in regards | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
to treatment of internation`l students and the visa systel. Does | :02:39. | :02:46. | |
she agree with the Chancellor and if so will she let mon sense and | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
retrail by removing the net cap .. I agree with the Chancellor that | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
international students make an incredibly important contribution to | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
our economy and to our culttral life. In terms of whether students | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
should be part of the immigration statistics, they are part of the ONS | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
stated statistics. It is not for me to change that arrangement. In my | :03:08. | :03:15. | |
experience when I was doing another job, I found that when I was setting | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
up broadcasting stations, whether it be in New York City or Gaboren | :03:21. | :03:29. | |
Botswana it often helped if I was dealing with people educated in | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
Britain. Isn't the point th`t we, the United Kingdom, should decide | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
who should come into the Unhted Kingdom or not, and not Brussels? | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
And that will be the case after Brexit. I agree with my howdver on | :03:44. | :03:51. | |
the point that every student who has studied here can become an hmportant | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
ambassador for this country internationally. That's an hmportant | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
part of the soft power of this country, extending our infltence. | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
International students are welcome now. We want to continue to attract | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
the best and the brightest `nd we'll continue to do that after wd leave | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
the European Union. Mr Speaker, Scottish business, the tradd unions, | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
the educational sector and dvery political party in the Scottish | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
Parliament, including the Conservative and Unionist P`rty | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
agree that Scotland needs to retain, needs to return of the post study | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
route to allow talented students to remain and contribute to thd | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
Scottish economy. Similar vhews are shared by the APPG on migration the | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
Home Affairs Committee, the Scottish affairs Select Committee, the House | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
of Lords science and technology cold and the commission on UK exports. | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
Can the Home Secretary expl`in which organisations advised against the | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
return of the scheme and indeed where there any who gave such | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
advice? I would say to the honourable and learned lady we think | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
we've got the right balance in terms of welcoming students, the brightest | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
and the best to this countrx, and allowing them to stay where they can | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
get a graduate-level job. Wd have to ensure that that system is fair is | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
fair to attracting the people to some of our best universitids, and | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
doesn't allow people to overstay, where they don't have | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
graduate-related job. I hopd she will indulge me if I write to her | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
about the advice that we received. I'm interested to know what advice | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
was received, but the truth of the matter is compared to countries such | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
as Canada and New Zealand, what the UK Government is offering students | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
in Scotland is pathetic. Isn't the real reason the Home Office is pick | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
on our universities in Scotland because of the Prime Ministdr's | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
blinkered pursuit of her unrealistic net migration target? Isn't it time | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
to remove students from that target and recognise that one size fits all | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
immigration policies are nehther necessary nor desirable for Scotland | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
and the rest of the UK? I don't share the honourable lady's view. I | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
think our figures are prettx clear. When we talk about net immigration | :06:02. | :06:04. | |
figures they are of course taking account of students coming hn and | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
students coming out. So I think we have the right way of the mdasuring | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
the amount of students that come. In I don't think it does inhibht our | :06:13. | :06:16. | |
appeal to international students, because the fact is they do want to | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
come and study in the UK. The UK has two of the top ten universities in | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
the world and long may that continue. The Home Secretarx's aware | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
obviously that international students contribute over ?7 billion | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
to the UK economy and have `nd receive 60% approval ratings in the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
polls too. Given these figures in a post Brexit world isn't it clear we | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
should be splitting up thesd immigration figures to bettdr | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
communicate to the public what UK immigration looks like? Will she | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
meet with me and colleagues to discuss this issue? I'm alw`ys | :06:52. | :06:54. | |
delighted to meet with my honourable friend. There has been a lot of | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
airing of this issue of how the breakdown of immigration figures is. | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
I think there's a reasonabld amount of clarity on which part ard | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
students and which part isn't. Thank you Mr Speaker, I think we `ll agree | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
on all sides of the House that it is a good I think that that | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
international students come here to study, so can she say something | :07:16. | :07:22. | |
about how welcome they feel when hate crimes against BAME people | :07:23. | :07:28. | |
those from the ethnic minorhties, went up 41% in the month after | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
Brexit and many students report that they are told to go home by people | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
in our country when they ard seen on our streets. Shouldn't we m`ke our | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
country more welcoming and deal with this poet Brexit problem? I | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
wholeheartedly agree with the honourable lady and join me in | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
spreading the word that international students are welcome | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
here. There should be no hate crime here. That's why I launched my | :07:56. | :08:04. | |
campaign in July, I can givd reassurance that that unwelcome | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
spike in hate crime has now fallen off. To return to the questhons from | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
the Member for Ilford north, as we know, international students | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
contribute ?7 billion to export earnings, support 137 jobs `cross | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
all regions of the UK, and help to make us a world-leader in the | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
international knowledge economy Does she accept that we are not | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
persuaded by her arguments not to remove international students from | :08:37. | :08:39. | |
migrant totals? And will shd undertake to look at the issue | :08:40. | :08:46. | |
again? I think that the right honourable lady and I are in danger | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
of violently agreeing on thd benefit of international students to the | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
economy and to this country in general. However I think shd is | :08:54. | :08:57. | |
tilting at the wrong windmill in terms of whether international | :08:58. | :09:00. | |
students are part of the imligration figures or not. This is a ndt | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
figure, so it does take into account the people who come and the people | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
who go. I think she may be exaggerating the impact she would | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
expect from the removal of them Number 2, Sir. | :09:13. | :09:27. | |
Mr Speaker... 1984. I have today issued a written ministerial | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
statement setting out my decision. I have concluded that there is no case | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
for either a statutory inquhry or an independent review. This is an | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
astonishing and frankly shaleful decision by the Government. They've | :09:47. | :09:53. | |
led the families up the garden path for the last two years. Does she not | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
understand that the disinfecting light of a inquiry is the only thing | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
that will give those communhties and those families the confidence that | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
they need back in the South Yorkshire Police force? I would urge | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
the honourable gentleman not to leap to anger quite so quickly. This | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
Government has taken the tile, has looked at the documents. I have been | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
in post for three months. Vdry met with the families. I have mdt with | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
the campaigning MPs. The fact that I have reached a different decision to | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
the one that he holds doesn't mean that it is anyway dishonour`ble | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
This is a difficult decision to make. Very made it considerhng all | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
the facts. And I believe it's the right one. Mr Speaker, once again | :10:41. | :10:48. | |
the name South Yorkshire Police does besmirch the brave officers on front | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
line. I have raised on several occasions, will my right honourable | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
friend along with the Polichng Minister meet to have a serhous | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
discussion about South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire Police can mdrge to | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
become Yorkshire police so that the name South Yorkshire Police doesn't | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
do ane justice to the officdrs who are bravely putting their lhves on | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
the line every day? I thank my honourable friend for this puestion. | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
He has raised this question with me before. I agree that the Policing | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
Minister will meet with him to discuss it. South Yorkshire Police | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
is under new leadership and I am hopeful it can make good progress. | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
In addition to that my right honourable friend the Polichng | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
Minister spoke to the PCC in order to explain the decision the | :11:31. | :11:32. | |
Government has come to. Is the Home Secretary aware that her | :11:33. | :11:43. | |
predecessor made it clear to my right honourable friend somd months | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
ago that there would be an dnquiry into Orgreave, so it's not really a | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
decision that is any differdnt from the one that we suspected | :11:56. | :12:02. | |
beforehand? Why is it that the government, and it appears to be the | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
government, have now taken ` decision which is contrary to the | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
one that the previous Home Secretary, now the Prime Minister, | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
gave in answer to my right honourable friend several months | :12:15. | :12:21. | |
ago? I can tell the honourable gentleman that I have taken this | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
very seriously, I have spokdn to the former Home Secretary about the | :12:28. | :12:30. | |
decision and I have ensured that all the matters and the papers were | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
carefully considered. We have taken our time to arrive at this decision. | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
There was no commitment madd before, only a willingness to look `t all | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
the evidence. Perhaps he cotld acknowledge a willingness that was | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
not taken by the Labour govdrnment, in order to ensure that the right | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
decision is taken after absorbing all the information. I welcome the | :12:52. | :12:58. | |
decision of the Secretary of State because whilst public enquiries can | :12:59. | :13:01. | |
in some instances be successful too often they take huge amounts of | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
money, they take several ye`rs and they don't answer the questhon they | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
have been asked. I thank my right honourable friend to that point and | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
in a way the easier politic`l decision would have been to the | :13:14. | :13:16. | |
government to agree to an enquiry but I cannot see that it is in the | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
public interest, given the substantial changes to polices that | :13:22. | :13:28. | |
have taken place in 1984. Ghven that the IPCC found evidence of perjury | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
and perversion of the coursd of justice, and given that in the last | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
month, new evidence has emerged from former police officers who were at | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
Orgreave of orchestrated violence and the mass Manufacturer police | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
statements, aren't we right in concluding that the establishment | :13:46. | :13:47. | |
stitch up that she has just announced today is nothing lore than | :13:48. | :13:57. | |
a nakedly political act? No, the right honourable gentleman hs | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
entirely wrong. He chooses to politicise it where there is none | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
here. I had a meeting, as hd knows with the campaign group, we had a | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
frank exchange of information about it but the fact is just bec`use he | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
disagrees with the decision I have made is not mean that it is the | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
wrong decision at all. I have made it honestly based on the evhdence. | :14:20. | :14:27. | |
If the government has deciddd against a public enquiry, I wonder | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
whether we could not considdr the house actually having the courage to | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
have a select committee enqtiry I say this because I can understand | :14:36. | :14:43. | |
the government is GBS about having another enquiry, but if the | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
government could free an ad hoc select committee, and we cotld | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
gather a proper select commhttee under the senior member of the | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
house, interview all witnesses, including ministers, we could deal | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
with this issue much cheaper than a public enquiry. It is of a very | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
interesting suggestion from my honourable friend. I believd that | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
sort of setup would be a matter for the house but I'm sure that other | :15:09. | :15:11. | |
select committees have heard your suggestion and may indeed t`ke up | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
the opportunity themselves. There will be the concern across South | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
Yorkshire have the decision the Home Secretary has made, so can H ask | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
specifically if she will medt with the Orgreave truth and justhce | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
campaign to discuss this matter further? Have spoken to the head of | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
the Orgreave truth and justhce committee this morning and H'm not | :15:35. | :15:37. | |
surprised she was very disappointed. I set out my reasons and I have | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
written her and the campaign group a 6-page letter. I would perh`ps | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
suggest to the honourable gdntleman that they have a chance to do just | :15:45. | :15:51. | |
that before they set up the meeting. I don't think the Home Secrdtary | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
fully understands how disappointed and let down the Orgreave f`mily | :15:58. | :16:06. | |
campaigners will be by her decision. A 6-page letter doesn't compensate | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
for the violence and injusthce that occurred at Orgreave so manx years | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
ago. We know the South Yorkshire Police lied about what happdned at | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
Hillsborough yet only five xears earlier the same South Yorkshire | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
Police, many of the same colmanders, behaved in a very similar w`y at | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
Orgreave. The Orgreave families and campaigners need the same jtstice as | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
Hillsborough had. They need the same type of independent enquiry to | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
establish the truth. I would respectfully say to the right | :16:42. | :16:43. | |
honourable lady that the Hillsborough situation was puite | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
afferent to Orgreave. 96 people died. It was right that we had an | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
enquiry that analysed exactly what happened on the day. In this | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
situation in Orgreave there were no miscarriages of justice. Thdre were | :17:03. | :17:09. | |
no deaths. There were no convictions. The right honotrable | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
lady should be aware. Therefore it doesn't merit the same level of | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
status as a public enquiry, as was required to Hillsborough. Thank you, | :17:18. | :17:28. | |
Mr Speaker. As the Prime Minister and Home Secretary have madd clear, | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
law enforcement cooperation with European partners will conthnue | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
after the UK leaves the EU. We will do what is necessary to keep people | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
say. At the Home Office we `re exploit oil options for cooperation, | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
once UK has left the EU but it is currently too early to spectlate on | :17:47. | :17:48. | |
what future arrangements might look like. Can I press the minister, has | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
the government decided whether they will seek to retain the European | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
arrest warrant after we leave the EU and has the Home Secretary had some | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
stern words with the Brexit secretary who voted against it only | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
two years ago, and has the government decided to sign tp to the | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
new Europol regulations and if not when are they going to do that, | :18:11. | :18:13. | |
because if they missed the deadline of January there could be some | :18:14. | :18:16. | |
severe implications for our membership and what would they be? I | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
would say to the honourable lady that the decision around whdther we | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
opt in to further Europol options will be announced the Parli`ment | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
shortly. We are giving good consideration of where we are on | :18:31. | :18:40. | |
that. With regards to extradition process across member states, but I | :18:41. | :18:43. | |
would not presume what would Lord would not be in the agreement. We | :18:44. | :18:46. | |
are in the early days of negotiation and we will go over that ovdr the | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
early period of Brexit. Somdone to water down the referendum rdsult and | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
drag us back into the Europdan Union if not necessarily by name, would he | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
not agree that cooperation on security, particularly cross-border | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
security, is important and when we take back control it is important we | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
make sure we keep that very important cooperation that keeps us | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
safe and secure? My honourable friend makes a very good pohnt. Our | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
membership of Europol continues as a strong continuing member, which of | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
course was there before the EU institution was there, and we are | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
very clear that our cooperation of member states and our deterlination | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
to ensure the security and protection of people in this country | :19:29. | :19:31. | |
will continue when we are no longer a member of the. After Paris metro | :19:32. | :19:40. | |
bombing in 1995, eight took him years to extradite Rashid R`nda from | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
the UK. After the London Tube bombings in 2005, it took jtst 6 | :19:46. | :19:52. | |
days to extradite Hussein Alant from Italy to the UK. The differdnce in | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
bringing murderous terrorist justice was big European arrest warrant I | :19:58. | :20:04. | |
cannot believe he will not guarantee that, however Brexit is negotiated | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
by this government, there is any question whatsoever in ending our | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
commitment to the European `rrest warrant. Can he please assure this | :20:14. | :20:19. | |
has today he will guarantee that the European arrest warrant will | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
continue? I thank the honourable lady for trying to tempt me into | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
prejudging what other member countries of the EU may dechde to | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
agree to as part of negotiations. We will be negotiating and I c`n | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
guarantee we will put the sdcurity detection of people in this country | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
absolutely first and foremost. This government is going further than any | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
before to protect individuals and communities from fraud throtgh the | :20:50. | :20:56. | |
joint fraud task force and we ensure the most vulnerable people hn our | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
society are protected. Individual should also be supported to protect | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
themselves. Many cyber attacks could be defeated by simple best practice. | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
The right honourable lady is seeking to group this with number sdven As | :21:09. | :21:15. | |
the Home Secretary will be well aware, economic crime in Sussex is | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
disproportionately targeted at the elderly. My constituency has one of | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
the highest rates of dementha in the UK. If the number of pubs and bars | :21:24. | :21:28. | |
can influence the police funding formula, could the Minister consider | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
using rates of dementia in the formula to the same degree? I am | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
grateful for the suggestion, he and I share the same county of Dast | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
Sussex, the third highest county for having the over 80s, so I al | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
familiar with the problem hd has highlighted. We are redoing the | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
police formula funding again and I will take his suggestion into | :21:50. | :21:55. | |
consideration. Concerns by ly constituents in Cardiff abott | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
criminal activity within thd financial system. With the criminal | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
finances Bill going through this house, will my right honour`ble | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
friend update us on how we `re cracking down on these quibbles The | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
UK is in fact one of the best places to do business but had to long the | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
process of overseas organisdd corruption has been able to move | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
through the UK with considerable impunity. Significantly the bill | :22:18. | :22:19. | |
will introduce new offences and measures to allow us to go `fter the | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
money, the middlemen and thd crime barons themselves. Several of mine | :22:24. | :22:34. | |
constituents have fallen fotl to the crime of bowling. | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
Of the crime of phishing. I thank my honourable friend for his qtestion | :22:40. | :22:55. | |
and he is right to raise thhs issue. The new nationwide fraud prdvention | :22:56. | :22:57. | |
campaign take five, which is take five minutes to consider thd motives | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
when faced by cold calling can help people not be tricked in thd same | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
way as he has described. I will look at his suggestion as well. The | :23:08. | :23:18. | |
government's response includes law enforcement agencies taking action | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
against online offenders, ddveloping new capabilities to find and | :23:23. | :23:25. | |
safeguard victims and working with the internet industry to relove | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
illegal images. We have led the global response to online child | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
global expectation through the wee protect global alliance, working | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
with countries, companies and civil society is to develop a coordinated | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
response. I thank the Minister for that answer. Can she tell us how the | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
government is supporting a multi-agency approach to tackle | :23:50. | :23:56. | |
child exploitation issues. The child sexual exploitation responsd unit | :23:57. | :24:03. | |
ensures that local authorithes with concerns about CSC can draw on | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
support of specialist professionals. -- CS E. It is run by Barnardo s, | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
which will bring together bdst practice. Finally a new system of | :24:13. | :24:19. | |
multi-agency inspections ard being delivered, the first of which | :24:20. | :24:27. | |
focuses on children at risk of CSE. With the permission Mr Speaker I | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
will answer questions six and 1 on the order paper together. Wd are | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
taking robust action to tackle radicalisation online and to counter | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
the poisonous ideology promoted by extremists. In 2010, the Hole Office | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
and police set up the counterterrorism internet rdferral | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
unit to tackle and disrupt terrorist related material. The government is | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
also supporting community-b`sed initiatives to provide credhble | :24:51. | :24:57. | |
counter narratives. Can the Minister tell the house how much onlhne | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
material has been removed as part of this initiative? Since Febrtary | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
2010, the counterterrorism hnternet referral unit, which was first set | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
up in 2010, following referrals from the CTI internet companies have | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
removed 220,000 pieces of tdrrorist related. The Home Affairs Sdlect | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
Committee have now issued two sports calling on Twitter and Facebook to | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
take much tougher action on extremist material, much of which | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
bridges their own terms of tse. Would my honourable friend `gree | :25:31. | :25:32. | |
that social media companies should do much more to prevent and remove | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
this material voluntarily whthout the need for a request from the | :25:37. | :25:43. | |
police at the taxpayers expdnse I agree, and although industrx have | :25:44. | :25:46. | |
taken some positive steps to address the issue, the internet is still | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
being used to recruit, radicalise, insight and inspire. | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
The relationship continues to be successful. Going forward wd would | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
like to see internet companhes being more proactive and taking more of | :25:58. | :26:00. | |
the leading tackling the global threat. | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
Months ago Zac Davies in my constituency was sentenced to life | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
imprisonment following his `ttempt to behead an Asian citizen on a | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
random attack in a Tesco supermarket in my constituency. He was | :26:16. | :26:22. | |
radicalised on the internet by neo-Nazi material and | :26:23. | :26:23. | |
Hitler-worshipping material. Will the Minister focus on that hssue as | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
well as on his links to terrorism as well? The right honourable lember is | :26:29. | :26:34. | |
right and interestingly enotgh with the current Prevent strategx we are | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
seeing a growth in referrals on the far right. In some parts of the | :26:39. | :26:44. | |
country referrals to Prevent are above those that we are worried | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
about. What many see as a blow to the Government's Prevent scheme the | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
Muslim Council of Britain h`ve announced they'll be setting up | :26:53. | :26:55. | |
their own anti-radicalisation programme. The Home Secretary | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
appears to be losing the confidence of Muslims. What is she intdnding to | :27:00. | :27:06. | |
do to reverse this loss of trust? I thank the honourable lady for her | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
question. She is absolutely wrong that the Prevent programme set up by | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
her Government in 2003 has lade considerable successes throtghout | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
the communities. I think we should reflect that Prevent is abott | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
safeguarding vulnerable people to being exploited and saving lany | :27:23. | :27:24. | |
people's lives across the country and abroad. I think to repe`t the | :27:25. | :27:30. | |
echo chamber of people saying this is about targeting one group or the | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
other is an absolute fallacx. Question 8, Mr Speaker. Thank you Mr | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
Speaker, the latest figures shows the reforms we've made to ctt abuse | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
along known EU visa routes hs working. There is more to do. As we | :27:48. | :27:50. | |
conduct our negotiations to leave the European Union it will be a | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
priority to retain more control of the numbers of people who come here | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
from Europe. Thank you Mr Speaker. Given that there is still some way | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
to go, how confident is my honourable friend that the leasures | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
taken by the Government will result in us meeting the target of reducing | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
net migration to the tens of thousands? And does he agred with me | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
that ending the free movement of people principle imposed on us by | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
the EU is essential if we are to stand any chance of meeting this | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
target? There is no doubt there s a challenging target but I personally | :28:27. | :28:29. | |
love a challenge. We are colmitted to bringing net migration down to | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
the turns out of thousands. We've taken significant steps to control | :28:34. | :28:36. | |
immigration. The UK's departure from the European Union will givd us | :28:37. | :28:41. | |
control over EU migration and we'll shortly be publishing consultation | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
document on further changes to non-EU work and study routes. My | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
constituent is awaiting an `ppeal in respect of a spouse visa | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
application. Response from the tribunal says the process whll take | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
15 weeks but it could be up to 8 months. Can he advise why appeals | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
are taking so long and why information given to applic`nts | :29:05. | :29:07. | |
doesn't reflect these delays in this is causing undue stress to | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
applicants and their loved ones I hope she will give me details. It is | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
absolutely right that we took measures to stamp out sham larriages | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
and other routes whereby people can use marriage as a way of getting a | :29:21. | :29:26. | |
fraudulent entry to UK. That does mean that some of the hoops people | :29:27. | :29:30. | |
have to jump through can be slightly smaller than before. Many of my | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
constituents would like to see illegal immigration stamped out as | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
well as monitoring migration. I was pleased to hear there is reports of | :29:41. | :29:47. | |
a jet stream turboprop pland brought in to patrol our borders We | :29:48. | :29:53. | |
certainly are determined to prevent illegal migration from whatdver | :29:54. | :29:56. | |
route it comes. That can be from people coming through the channel | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
crossings or through general aviation or maritime routes. We are | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
determined to clamp down on all of those. Mr Speaker, the policy to | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
limit migration is of coursd at odds with the promise we heard in the | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
referendum campaign from thd International Development Sdcretary, | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
that if we voted to leave, chefs from the subcontinent could have | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
their visa restrictions rel`xed to avoid a curry crisis. Was that | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
pledge of the same value as the money promised for the NHS on the | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
side of the bus, ie of the will never happen? Or will the Government | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
address the skills shortage to our economy rather than aping Ukip? | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
Well, I will certainly take no lessons from the party opposite | :30:41. | :30:43. | |
They were the party that allowed people to come in from outshde the | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
EU with no skills at all. Indeed search parties were sent out to | :30:50. | :30:52. | |
encourage mass migration. C`n I lay down a challenge to the | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
restaurateurs of this country, train their own people, train our people. | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
We have tremendous pant in the UK who would love to work in that | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
environment. We don't always need to bring people from the subcontinent. | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
Question 9. The Government has introduced a range of new offences | :31:11. | :31:15. | |
the, including the offence of coercive or controlling beh`viour. | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
Victims who experience behaviour that stops short of serious physical | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
violence but amounts to extreme psychological or emotional `buse can | :31:26. | :31:32. | |
bring their perpetrators to justice. Every police force has publhshed new | :31:33. | :31:38. | |
guidance. I thank the Minister for the answer, but in same sex | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
relationships and also in orthodox religious communities, domestic | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
violence is often underreported What more can be done to tr`in | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
police officers to support these victims and encourage them to come | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
forward? My right honourabld friend is quite right. Domestic abtse can | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
take many forms and affect `ll groups in society. New police | :32:00. | :32:06. | |
domestic abuse guidance explicitly captures the LGBT people max be | :32:07. | :32:11. | |
abused by their partners in specific ways connected to their sextal | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
orient ace or gender identity. The Home Office is encouraging ` charity | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
to run a dedicated national helpline to provide emotional and pr`ctical | :32:22. | :32:25. | |
support to LGBT people experiences Adam abuse. Mr Speaker, new reports | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
that nurses are three times more likely to be victims of doing abuse | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
than the general population. Will she speak to colleagues what the NHS | :32:36. | :32:42. | |
may need to do to support this group as an employer? I thank the | :32:43. | :32:47. | |
honourable lady for her question. The Government has a "zero | :32:48. | :32:50. | |
tolerance" policy to any sort of domestic abuse or violence. I will | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
certainly take up the honourable lady's recommendation of spdaking to | :32:56. | :32:57. | |
my colleagues this the Department of Health to see what more we can do to | :32:58. | :33:03. | |
prevent this awful crime happening to our much appreciated nurses. | :33:04. | :33:11. | |
Number Ten, Mr Speaker. The Government has been clear that it | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
wants to protect the status of EU nationals already living here. The | :33:17. | :33:18. | |
only circumstances in which that would not be possible are if British | :33:19. | :33:24. | |
citizens rights in European member states were not protected in return. | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
I'm grateful, Mr Speaker. Mx question was what estimate the | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
Secretary of State had made of the numbers, because on 10th October, | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
her colleague, the Secretarx of State for exiting the Europdan Union | :33:39. | :33:44. | |
said by the time we leave, five our six migrants will have or bd | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
entitled to indefinite leavd to remain. That's 2.5 million people. | :33:49. | :33:53. | |
Is that the policy of the Government? Mr Speaker, I c`n tell | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
the honourable gentleman th`t I saw these reports. They were based on | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
existing public research whhch estimates that around 80% of | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
irmigrants already here will have been residents in the UK for up to | :34:06. | :34:10. | |
five years by the start of the 019. It is too simplistic and too early | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
to reach definitive conclushons about the outcome when we do this. | :34:15. | :34:21. | |
Mr Speaker, there are EU nationals working, contributing, paying tax, | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
their children at school in every constituency in the UK. If ht is not | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
cynically using them as a b`rgaining chip, why on earth will she not do | :34:29. | :34:32. | |
the right thing and now that they will be allowed to stay in this | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
country? I would say to the honourable gentleman that in teens | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
the earlier question, the Prime Minister has already said that the | :34:42. | :34:49. | |
intevenlcts it is only so that we could ensure there's a reciprocal | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
arrangement that we've held become from that final commitment, which we | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
hope will be made. Number 10. Mr Speaker, we are clear and | :34:59. | :35:06. | |
documentary evidence of age is not available, criteria such as physical | :35:07. | :35:09. | |
appearance and demeanor are used to determine if a person is under 8. | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
This Does he agree with me this country | :35:14. | :35:24. | |
has always been compassionate and understanding towards children | :35:25. | :35:27. | |
fleeing persecution? Does hd also agree every young adult every 1 we | :35:28. | :35:33. | |
admit means one less child hn desperate need being allowed in And | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
he could extend checks to social media and university records to | :35:39. | :35:45. | |
ensure our generosity isn't abused? THE SPEAKER: My patience has been | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
abused. That was two questions rather than one. It is a safe and | :35:51. | :35:57. | |
lawful system is in place and ensure that the right safeguarding and | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
security checks are carried out Our focus remains that minors Ebolaible | :36:03. | :36:07. | |
to come hear are coming herd safely. The French have agreed to stpport | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
the children in safe places in France while we carry out essential | :36:11. | :36:16. | |
checks. Thank you Mr Speaker, the charities working with the children | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
in Calais are reporting first that the UK assessment and transfer | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
process has paused. And secondly that there are 1,500 childrdn and | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
teenagers being held in the container camp but without proper | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
water or food or without enough adults, social workers or youth | :36:37. | :36:42. | |
workers to look after them `nd to prevent tensions and violence | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
rising. Can he look into thhs and make sure the UK transfer sxstem is | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
restarted very quickly, and that the French urgently provide proper | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
protection and support for these very vulnerable young peopld? I | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
would certainly echo the pohnts she has made. These these are the | :36:59. | :37:06. | |
representations I've made. Our people are on the ground ensuring | :37:07. | :37:12. | |
that that's done. It is important as we continue to process thosd | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
children who are eligible to come here with be done in a safe | :37:16. | :37:20. | |
situation. The French are ddtermined to help us with that. Can wd focus | :37:21. | :37:25. | |
on the issue of the safety of children? As children are bding | :37:26. | :37:37. | |
transferred from the containers to specialist centres and they'll be | :37:38. | :37:42. | |
kept under the close supervhsion of NGOs and Home Office offici`ls? I | :37:43. | :37:51. | |
can give an assurance we ard working hard to identify children under | :37:52. | :37:54. | |
Dublin and those most vulnerable, particularly the children under 13 | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
and those who may be vulner`ble to sexual exploitation are priority | :38:00. | :38:08. | |
ides under the amendment procedure. Bashir, 19, was trafficked to the UK | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
from Afghanistan after his father was murdered by the Taliban. I | :38:15. | :38:19. | |
understand he was to be removed from the country but that's been stopped. | :38:20. | :38:28. | |
Can he urgently intervene to stop this removal? While it will be | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
inappropriate to comment on individual cases I am aware of this | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
case and it is on my desk at the moment. Can I start by saying thank | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
you to the Home Secretary and the more to the dedication they've given | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
to this issue in recent weeks? Issue. I understand children are | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
being moved from containers to resettlement camps in Francd. | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
France. When will they be brought from there to here, any sense at | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
all? We are assisting with that transfer process and once those | :39:02. | :39:04. | |
children are in a place of safety away from the people traffickers who | :39:05. | :39:07. | |
would seek to ex pretty thel, we'll be able to carry that work out in a | :39:08. | :39:19. | |
more methodical way, in a m`tter of weeks. We know that there are 3 | :39:20. | :39:29. | |
young girls some as young as 12 in the container part. Can he confirm | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
that the Home Office staff left the site on Saturday? When will they go | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
back and restart the rescue of these children to the UK? We must remember | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
at all times that the camp hs in France and we must work closely with | :39:45. | :39:49. | |
our colleagues in the French authorities. That's why we need to | :39:50. | :39:52. | |
work with them to ensure th`t children are removed from the | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
container camp into a place of safety, where they can be processed | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
in a more orderly way. Mr Speaker, while the House is raising so many | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
genuinely felt concerns abott the children in Calais, could I just | :40:07. | :40:12. | |
remind him that by far and `way the largest crisis involving chhldren in | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
the world at the moment is the situation in and around Syrha? Which | :40:17. | :40:25. | |
is, Mr Speaker, precisely why the Government are determined to | :40:26. | :40:27. | |
relocate 20,000 of the most vulnerable people from the camps in | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
Syria and 3,000 vulnerable children from the region which removds the | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
pull factor, which means th`t so many people have taken that | :40:37. | :40:43. | |
hazardous journey across thd Mediterranean and Aegean. | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
THE SPEAKER: Unlawyer-like brevity? Surely we should be working with the | :40:50. | :40:52. | |
authorities and the Governmdnt in France to ensure that we never again | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
see this sort of shambolic `nd shameful treatment that we saw last | :40:58. | :41:06. | |
week? With equal brevity, I agree. Can I reassure the Minister that on | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
this side of the House we do though that the camp is in France, but we | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
are weary of both French and British officials trying to pass thd buck | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
even at this late stage when desperate children's lives `re at | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
stake? We know that there are more than 1,000 young people currently in | :41:26. | :41:30. | |
the container compound at C`lais without proper supervision `nd the | :41:31. | :41:34. | |
help they need. The Minister has said that the assessment and | :41:35. | :41:39. | |
transport process has paused. Can he share with the House when the | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
assessment and transport process will begin again? | :41:46. | :42:08. | |
Thank you Mr Speaker. Recovdry from drug misuse remains at the heart of | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
our approach. More people are recovering from their dependency now | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
than in 2010 and the number of heroin and crack cocaine usdrs in | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
England has continued to fall, with the number falling below 300,00 for | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
the first time since 2011. We are developing a new drugs strategy with | :42:30. | :42:31. | |
other departments and key p`rtners which will be published soon. With | :42:32. | :42:39. | |
most drug services privatisdd across England and the last three xears, | :42:40. | :42:43. | |
those figures that the Minister has just quoted are fake, aren't they? | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
They are fake figures, outcomes are no longer being measured on a health | :42:49. | :42:52. | |
basis, are they? Can the Minister tell us what the outcome is | :42:53. | :42:55. | |
currently are when it comes to heroin treatment? I am gratdful for | :42:56. | :43:04. | |
the question. The decisions are likely made that the figures are far | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
from fake and they are independently reported. I would think as ` local | :43:10. | :43:12. | |
MP he would actually be prahsing his local services, because the latest | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
data I have is that people have to have quick referrals. 96% of people | :43:19. | :43:26. | |
who need access to treatment are receiving it within three d`ys. In | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
fact his local area has a rdally good track record of engaging with | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
people and making sure they don t drop out of treatment and h`ve good | :43:36. | :43:38. | |
success from those treatment programmes. Gratitude to thd | :43:39. | :43:47. | |
honourable gentleman is not always a commodity in plentiful supply. A | :43:48. | :43:55. | |
judge must consider various statutory bars to extradition, he | :43:56. | :43:59. | |
must be refused of the judgd finds it would be incompatible with the | :44:00. | :44:02. | |
person's human rights or an individual's physical or mental | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
condition, meaning it would be unjust war oppressive to extradite. | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
The Minister knows the law has changed and the Home Secret`ry can | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
no longer intervene. Where xoung people are on the autism spdctrum or | :44:17. | :44:19. | |
suffering from mental health challenges, can we make surd that | :44:20. | :44:23. | |
court officials, especially judges, understand those circumstances? | :44:24. | :44:29. | |
Particularly referring to the case of Larry Love. Without commdnting on | :44:30. | :44:37. | |
that particular case, I will be making a decision by mid-November. | :44:38. | :44:43. | |
He is right. They are the things that the judge needs to look at | :44:44. | :44:47. | |
Parliament voted on it not that long ago. Topical question number one. | :44:48. | :44:56. | |
Mr Speaker, in 2015 the moddrn slavery act gave new powers, which | :44:57. | :45:03. | |
must now be turned into restlts Progress is being made that there | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
are still much more to do, that is why on anti-slavery Day last week I | :45:09. | :45:11. | |
announced an 8.5 million fund to transform our domestic leasd | :45:12. | :45:15. | |
response, which will includd funding for over 50 additional analxsts | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
specialists and investigators. Last week at the Vatican I announced a | :45:21. | :45:27. | |
slavery innovation fund. Thd fund will support trial and test | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
innovative ways of tackling modern slavery. These funds reflect the | :45:33. | :45:37. | |
government's commitment to `pprehend the perpetrators and protect victims | :45:38. | :45:41. | |
of these terrible crimes and I look forward to the first meeting of the | :45:42. | :45:49. | |
task force this week. Leicester county council are looking `t how | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
they can hold unaccompanied asylum seeking children -- how thex can | :45:55. | :45:57. | |
help. What assurances can mx honourable friend give in providing | :45:58. | :46:03. | |
full reimbursement of costs incurred under the national transfer scheme? | :46:04. | :46:11. | |
I thank my honourable friend for his question and pay tribute to | :46:12. | :46:15. | |
Leicestershire County Counchl and will local authorities that have | :46:16. | :46:18. | |
stepped up and accepted unaccompanied children. I c`n assure | :46:19. | :46:21. | |
my honourable friend the government is committed to the care of | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
unaccompanied asylum seeking children. In July we increased the | :46:27. | :46:37. | |
rates. Thank you, Mr Speaker. We are currently experiencing over a 3 % | :46:38. | :46:40. | |
cut to the Fire And Rescue Services funding. 10,000 jobs lost. | :46:41. | :46:49. | |
Firefighters on average carrying out over 100 rescues per day. Whth fewer | :46:50. | :46:57. | |
firefighters and fewer fire stations, the potential for slow | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
response could mean the loss of life. Now is the time to invest in | :47:01. | :47:07. | |
Fire and Rescue Service and stop the reckless cuts. Will the right | :47:08. | :47:15. | |
honourable Minister said th`t now is the time to prioritise saving lives | :47:16. | :47:22. | |
not money? I would like to take another Tunisia to express ly | :47:23. | :47:25. | |
sympathy with all those affdcted by the recent devastating fires we have | :47:26. | :47:30. | |
seen in Exeter, Birmingham, Doncaster and Cheshire. The | :47:31. | :47:31. | |
firefighters do save lives dvery day. I would say to the honourable | :47:32. | :47:36. | |
lady that she should bear in mind that authorities still have more | :47:37. | :47:39. | |
work they could do to reducd costs. They themselves will say thhs. I | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
have been talking with many over the last few weeks to recognise there is | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
a need to improve collaborative working. Also the bear in mhnd that | :47:49. | :47:54. | |
since 2010, fire authorities with non-reserves have managed to rise by | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
150%. There are still money turns -- to ensure they are finding future | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
savings. We have not covered rural crime and many farmers in mx | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
constituency are greatly concerned with becoming a victim of rtral | :48:09. | :48:15. | |
crime, so can I ask why on friend what we can do to keep their | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
businesses safe? I am very grateful to my honourable friend for raising | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
this really important subject. Absolutely crucial to support our | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
farmers, to ensure the UK m`intains a thriving farming industry. I | :48:30. | :48:35. | |
welcome the rural policing strategy that sets out the first's commitment | :48:36. | :48:42. | |
to work with a rule commitmdnt, and to enforce the law. The moddrn crime | :48:43. | :48:45. | |
prevention strategy publishdd supports this approach. You have | :48:46. | :48:53. | |
reported serious allegations of sexual assault by the most senior | :48:54. | :48:59. | |
lawyer on the child abuse enquiry, Ben Emmerson QC. No action was taken | :49:00. | :49:04. | |
until the 29th. Her predecessor hand-picked Mr Emerson for the | :49:05. | :49:08. | |
enquiry. Can she tell us whx it took so long for action to be taken, why | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
the investigation into his conduct was dropped, and why he is still | :49:14. | :49:19. | |
reportedly being paid ?1700 a day even though he now works on the | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
enquiry? I would say to the honourable lady that both mx right | :49:25. | :49:27. | |
honourable friend the Prime Minister and myself have set out what we knew | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
at the time and its relevance, and I would also say it is really | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
important that this enquiry continues. She asks questions which | :49:37. | :49:42. | |
are for the head of the inddpendent enquiry, it is essential for the | :49:43. | :49:45. | |
authenticity of this enquirx that it is held as independent. It hs not | :49:46. | :49:49. | |
run by the Home Office and that is an essential part of its integrity | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
and I would urge her to stop knocking the enquiry and st`rt | :49:54. | :49:58. | |
getting behind it. Thank yot, Mr Speaker. Essex Constabulary in Essex | :49:59. | :50:05. | |
County Fire and Rescue Servhce have a long track record of workhng | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
closely, and are seeking to do more of that in the future. What can my | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
right honourable friend's ddpartment do to support and encourage police | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
and fire to work more collaboratively in the future? My | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
honourable friend is right, we are doing work to living on our | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
manifesto pledge to the polhce and climb Bill, allowing Police and | :50:31. | :50:32. | |
Crime Commissioners to take governance of the fire authority and | :50:33. | :50:36. | |
it is also their stature jute surely figure collaboration. It is | :50:37. | :50:40. | |
important they work closely together. | :50:41. | :50:46. | |
Lewisham uses the London crhme prevention fund to employ officers | :50:47. | :50:53. | |
dedicated to working in a sdrious youth violence team. After @pril | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
2017, the funding levels ard not clear. How is the minister going to | :50:59. | :51:06. | |
ensure serious use of violence work is properly funded to delivdr at a | :51:07. | :51:11. | |
local level? The honourable lady makes reference to a point that is | :51:12. | :51:14. | |
actually part of the funding formula we do every year that will be done | :51:15. | :51:19. | |
after the Autumn Statement that this house will vote on in Febru`ry. She | :51:20. | :51:23. | |
should also be aware we havd announced delivering our manifesto | :51:24. | :51:26. | |
pledge that we will do a review of the police funding formula `nd I | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
have written to all police constables and crime commissioners | :51:30. | :51:32. | |
and engaging with all of thdm across the country. Police officers across | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
this nation to their bodies on the line when protecting us. 23,000 | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
officers were assaulted last year, sentences do not appear to be acting | :51:42. | :51:46. | |
as a deterrent. Can ministers assure me that they are lazing with other | :51:47. | :51:52. | |
departments to challenge sentencing governments off guidelines? My | :51:53. | :52:00. | |
honourable friend makes a vdry important point, and we had a debate | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
about this just the week before last in this house. It is import`nt that | :52:06. | :52:10. | |
people know very clearly ard police officers should be respected. The | :52:11. | :52:15. | |
police by consent, something unique to our country that we should be | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
proud of. I am talking to colleagues in other departments and also about | :52:21. | :52:23. | |
how we prosecute, whether it is actually for a criminal offdnce for | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
using the police act. It is right that police officers should feel | :52:29. | :52:35. | |
respected and safe in their job Dungavel detention centre should | :52:36. | :52:40. | |
close but only as part of a brighter Orton wider plan. | :52:41. | :52:53. | |
Predeparture detention is or is a last resort, and we aim to linimise | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
the number of those kept in detention. The new facility at | :53:00. | :53:02. | |
Glasgow airport will facilitate the closure of Dungavel and be ` more | :53:03. | :53:08. | |
purpose-built facility. To bring some certainty to my many ET | :53:09. | :53:11. | |
constituents who live in Wilbledon and around, could the minister say | :53:12. | :53:18. | |
when and if he expects to announce reciprocal arrangements? As the | :53:19. | :53:24. | |
primers to said we wish to protect the status of EU citizens working | :53:25. | :53:28. | |
here and at the same time wd expect the status of British citizdns | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
living and working elsewherd to be respected as well. Ten days ago Alan | :53:33. | :53:38. | |
Richards was convicted in Bhrmingham of the most horrific catalogue of | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
offences against children, some as young as eight. I want to | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
congratulate West Midlands Police for the forensic investigathon. He | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
was a serving police officer for over 30 years. Will the Homd | :53:52. | :53:53. | |
Secretary assure the house that the enquiry into what happened will be | :53:54. | :53:56. | |
independent, whistle-blowers will be given protection, and if other | :53:57. | :54:00. | |
agencies made mistakes, including the CPS, they are part of that | :54:01. | :54:07. | |
investigation too? I can sax to the right honourable gentleman ht is a | :54:08. | :54:14. | |
hugely important case. By ddfinition it is an independent investhgation. | :54:15. | :54:20. | |
We are going further to givd even more protection to take on `nd lead | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
these cases even without thd recommendation. Given the closure of | :54:27. | :54:36. | |
the Calais Campbell 's last month, can ministers update the hotse on | :54:37. | :54:38. | |
what steps are being taken to protect migrants against illegal | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
trafficking on cross-channel ferries such as the Newhaven Dieppe ferry in | :54:43. | :54:48. | |
my constituency. I can say to my honourable friend that sincd the | :54:49. | :54:52. | |
removals from the can have started, and have largely been compldted | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
there has already been a trdmendous reduction in the amount of | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
clandestinely and the amount of illegal refugees trying to get | :55:02. | :55:04. | |
across to the UK. We hope working closely with the French we will be | :55:05. | :55:08. | |
able to continue that to ensure that her constituents as well of all of | :55:09. | :55:14. | |
ours feel better protected. Can the Home Secretary confirmed shd is | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
publishing new guidance on `sylum claims from Eritrea today? Hn future | :55:19. | :55:21. | |
will the Home Office listen to concerns about things raised in this | :55:22. | :55:27. | |
house rather than being forced into change by the tribunal? It hs | :55:28. | :55:33. | |
certainly important with Erhtrea as other countries that react on best | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
possible information. There have been reports by other EU cotntries | :55:39. | :55:44. | |
we look at. We are looking with the results of the tribunal with | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
interest. I like many of my Staffordshire colleagues and the | :55:49. | :55:54. | |
Police and Crime Commissiondr are incredibly concerned about the | :55:55. | :55:57. | |
business case for Staffordshire Fire and rescue opposed by skills centre. | :55:58. | :56:03. | |
Will the honourable friend the finance minister meet myself and | :56:04. | :56:08. | |
staff to assess whether or not it offers value for money? | :56:09. | :56:18. | |
To meet with her her colleagues I also taught us. The Home Secretary | :56:19. | :56:36. | |
said earlier that the lack of any as carriages of justice was ond of the | :56:37. | :56:40. | |
reasons why she would not instigate an enquiry into Aubrey. 95 liners | :56:41. | :56:46. | |
were charged, many were rem`nded in custody and went through very | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
difficult trials based on charges and evidence that later collapsed. | :56:53. | :56:55. | |
Would she reconsider what she said about injustice? Given her | :56:56. | :57:02. | |
predecessor's record of a whole series of enquiries and revhews in | :57:03. | :57:07. | |
cases where injustice was stspected, would she think again about her | :57:08. | :57:13. | |
decision today? I thank the right honourable lady for her question and | :57:14. | :57:18. | |
this government's record on enquiries is strong. We havd not | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
been shy about setting them up where they are needed. This was not an | :57:23. | :57:26. | |
easy decision and the fact H made one that she and her colleagues do | :57:27. | :57:32. | |
not approve does not mean I did not take incredibly seriously the | :57:33. | :57:36. | |
meeting I had with the families and the seriousness of it. But when I | :57:37. | :57:41. | |
wake up whether there was a true public interest test, it did not | :57:42. | :57:46. | |
meet it. I would urge her and her colleagues to read the ministerial | :57:47. | :57:52. | |
statement I have submitted today. Two of my constituents have been | :57:53. | :57:57. | |
defrauded in excess of ?60,000. It is not helped by the lack of | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
coordination between action fraud and the local force. They are unable | :58:03. | :58:08. | |
to get updates on the investigation. What can we do to improve the | :58:09. | :58:15. | |
investigation? I will be visiting Action Fraud to take up his specific | :58:16. | :58:20. | |
case and in general how thex deal with constituents and enquiries from | :58:21. | :58:23. | |
members to make sure that the service is improved. The Hole | :58:24. | :58:29. | |
Secretary's decision is a slap in the face to the campaigners and the | :58:30. | :58:34. | |
victims and their families, some of whom have lost their lives waiting | :58:35. | :58:42. | |
for justice. It is not just those of us on you agree, the IPCC, well fed | :58:43. | :58:46. | |
there was evidence for an enquiry. Will the Home Secretary at the very | :58:47. | :58:51. | |
least ensure that all materhal pertaining to Aubrey is reldased and | :58:52. | :58:56. | |
at the very least the operational order from the day which has never | :58:57. | :59:01. | |
been made available? My colleagues have spoken to the Police and Crime | :59:02. | :59:05. | |
Commissioner who has agreed he will work with the South Yorkshire police | :59:06. | :59:09. | |
to make sure the information she requires is released. I will repeat | :59:10. | :59:14. | |
what I said earlier, when I made this decision and the government | :59:15. | :59:17. | |
made this decision, we assessed carefully what the facts were, | :59:18. | :59:22. | |
thoughtfully thinking about the families involved. The fact we | :59:23. | :59:26. | |
arrived at a different decision to herd does not make it wrong. Can I | :59:27. | :59:32. | |
ask my right honourable fridnd the Home Secretary to come to mhddle | :59:33. | :59:36. | |
more in my constituency, thd home of the Devon and Cornwall police, and | :59:37. | :59:42. | |
to come to the home of the Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Service in | :59:43. | :59:45. | |
order to thank them for somd of their extraordinary work ovdr the | :59:46. | :59:48. | |
weekend in Cathedral close hn Exeter? I thank my right honourable | :59:49. | :59:55. | |
friend for that question and we all saw over the weekend the drdadful | :59:56. | :59:59. | |
scenes in Exeter. I would bd delighted to come with him `nd thank | :00:00. | :00:04. | |
the police and the Fire rescue teams who did such fantastic work in | :00:05. | :00:10. | |
dealing with a terrible sittation. Recently two very brave campaigners | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
in Zimbabwe on human rights were refused visas to come to thhs house | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
and speak, despite our ambassador in Harare supporting it. With the | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
Minister please look at what is going on in south Africa? Wd are | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
letting in people who have done dreadful things and yet two, decent, | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
law-abiding, respectful, hard-working people, one of whom has | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
been given asylum in Americ`, were refused entry. I will be more than | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
happy to meet with her in pdrson to discuss this issue. I am aw`re of a | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
number of cases involving Zhmbabwe which we have under review. As part | :00:50. | :00:57. | |
of a comprehensive strategy to improve the resilience of otr Fire | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
And Rescue Services, it is necessary to take all reasonable steps were my | :01:03. | :01:11. | |
honourable liaise with the Department for Communities `nd Local | :01:12. | :01:16. | |
Government to ensure that the normal way of improving regulations takes | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
place in our strategy is brought in line at that strategy is brought in | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
line with other countries? H thank my honourable friend and nehghbour | :01:26. | :01:29. | |
for his question. I am sure my colleagues will have heard what he | :01:30. | :01:33. | |
had to say and I will make sure they do hear that. There are suppression | :01:34. | :01:39. | |
products other than sprinkldrs that builders can use and we are keen to | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
make sure we continue to have safe homes. It is Wi-Fi is in our area | :01:43. | :01:50. | |
are at pretty historic low levels. I had to hack she said should not be | :01:51. | :01:59. | |
angry when I tell her that xou agree with you about Aubrey. One final we | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
will not do about Hillsborotgh until we have the truth about an dye out | :02:05. | :02:11. | |
for full disclosure? This whll never go away, please think again. That | :02:12. | :02:33. | |
there is the quality of the and all. Two criminal investigations going on | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
and they have access to the Aubrey material and there will be no change | :02:37. | :02:45. | |
in that aspect. , Jonathan @shwood. I ask that the state to makd a | :02:46. | :02:52. | |
statement on NHS funding. The Secretary of State for Health, | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
Secretary Jeremy Hunt. Thank you, Mr | :02:57. | :02:57. |