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It's an awkward new year dilemma for Jeremy Corbyn - | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
does he build a Shadow Cabinet more to his liking, but risk a rebellion | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
A day of non-stop reshuffle buzz, but it's not yet looking a night | :00:12. | :00:20. | |
of the long knives for Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
I think it would be a great shame to move a politician | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
who is completely competent and equipped to do the job | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
of Shadow Foreign Secretary on the basis of a disagreement | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
We'll get the latest and the lowdown on Labour's top team, | :00:35. | :00:44. | |
We speak to the Labour MP who lost the party whip for sexting | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
I can't deny the fact that I prefer young women, | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
you know, and different people have different preferences. | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
My last girlfriend was 17 years younger than me. | :00:59. | :01:11. | |
And then we talk to the new director of the National Gallery, | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
I think there can be big changes, particularly the way the gallery | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
presents itself to the outside world, in a sense to that huge | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
number of people who will probably never come to see the National | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
Through the holiday, we were told Jeremy Corbyn | :01:25. | :01:39. | |
was preparing a reshuffle of his Shadow Cabinet. | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
The talk was of a revenge reshuffle, "Corbygeddon". | :01:43. | :01:45. | |
Perhaps a lot of that chat got out of hand. | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
But today, the reshuffle shuffle got going, and yet amazingly, | :01:48. | :01:49. | |
Hilary Benn and Maria Eagle went to speak to Mr Corbyn, | :01:50. | :01:58. | |
but they have said nothing about their positions. | :01:59. | :02:00. | |
Does that suggest they're still in the Shadow Cabinet? | :02:01. | :02:02. | |
Or has the leader not finalised his decisions? | :02:03. | :02:10. | |
Or has he been stymied in his desires? | :02:11. | :02:12. | |
It does seem he has not gone for the nuclear option | :02:13. | :02:14. | |
of sacking his Cabinet opponents forthwith. | :02:15. | :02:16. | |
But nuclear opinions were never his thing. | :02:17. | :02:17. | |
Let's hear about the day and the dilemma from our political | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
Opposition front bench reshuffle. Three words that don't exactly | :02:21. | :02:42. | |
scream compelling must-see drama. Labour after all has just lost a | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
general election. Surely only a few sad obsessives much care who is | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
being promoted or demoted this far from the next one? But actually | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
stick with us, because this opposition front bench reshuffle is | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
a bit different. Why? Well, in this reshuffle some say there's a battle | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
going on for the whole future and heart of the Labour Party. Labour's | :03:06. | :03:13. | |
Shadow Foreign Secretary might not be the biggest Ben in Westminster, | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
but Hilary Benn grew in reputation markedly after the Iraq debate last | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
month. One problem though, he was saying the exact opposite of his | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
leader. For that reason one of Jeremy Corbyn's closest political | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
friends told me Mr Benn can't stay in post. Imagine in Tony Blair's | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
Premiership, if Mo Mowlam our Northern Ireland Secretary had come | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
out and said I am opposed to the Prime Minister negotiate ing with | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
the IRA, he would have moved her. Jeremy's been tolerant about dissent | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
or disagreement, but there's a problem with your front bench | :03:51. | :03:57. | |
spokesman is disagreeing with you. If Hilary Benn had been... Is this a | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
leadership challenge, is it an attempt to undermine the Prime | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
Minister? It is another Labour split. What we are trying to get | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
back on to focusing on key issues like the economy. We must now | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
confront this evil. What particularly irked Mr Corbyn was the | :04:15. | :04:17. | |
reaction in the chamber to Hilary Benn's speech. The cheering, the | :04:18. | :04:23. | |
applause, appalling jingoism, the Labour leader called it. | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
CHEERING. It is the leader's prerogative, it is their right to | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
pick their own team. Of course that's the case, but I think it | :04:34. | :04:40. | |
would be a great shame to move a politician who is completely | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
competent and equipped to do the job of Shadow Foreign Secretary on the | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
basis of a disagreement on a free vote. Not a whipped vote but a free | :04:50. | :04:56. | |
vote. One of Mr Corbyn's key advisers told Newsnight this is | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
emphatically not a revenge reshuffle. More it is an attempt to | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
establish some coherence in some of the Labour Party's policy positions. | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
Namely defence and foreign affairs. But in this is there an admission | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
that Mr Corbyn's plan to usher in a new style of politics based on | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
grown-up disagreements, open discussion, has failed? On the basis | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
of that intelligence, the other name in the frame then is mooria eagle, | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
Shadow Defence Secretary. She favoured renewing Britain's nuclear | :05:28. | :05:29. | |
deterrent. Of course, of course, does not. You are working with Maria | :05:30. | :05:36. | |
Eagle on this defence review. If she were removed midway through that | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
process or even the beginning of that process, what would it say | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
about that review? It is only just starting. We are going to focus on | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
facts. The current episode of Labour's drama may well be concluded | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
some time tomorrow, but the wider story of the battle going on inside | :05:53. | :05:57. | |
the Labour Party looks set to run for a few seasons yet. | :05:58. | :06:04. | |
Well, here with me are Ayesha Hazarika, | :06:05. | :06:06. | |
former special adviser to Harriet Harman, | :06:07. | :06:07. | |
Danny Finkelstein, Conservative peer and columnist in the Times, | :06:08. | :06:09. | |
Owen, you can make sense of what's happened today, why there was all | :06:10. | :06:18. | |
this talk about a reshuffle and then nothing happened? It is not exactly | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
clear what's happening but hopefully tomorrow it will be a tad clearer. | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
What he has to do though, the essentials of what he did when he | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
came to power were right, in terms of the Shadow Cabinet, even though | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
it was done in a chaotic way, because that whole team are not | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
people who've spent years preparing for power with a team around them. | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
It is a unique situation. Where they went wrong in particular, and I said | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
this at the time, was the lack of women this those top four positions. | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
There's lots of capable women on the backbenches and the front bench | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
team. I think what should happen now is an attempt to redress that | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
balance. Particularly with the top four. The same time, I find this | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
navel gazing on behalf of the Labour Party on all sides bleak. We have a | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
Conservative Government now which is going to preside over cuts to | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
universal credit, which will hammer middle of course families for the | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
next few years. Flooding in parts of the country, and cuts to the flood | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
defences. A Government in alliance with a Saudi dictatorship which is a | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
threat to the security of our citizens, and yet we are talking | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
about the make-up of the Labour frontbench. Do you blame Jeremy | :07:31. | :07:37. | |
Corbyn for that or the media? It is everyone. What has to happen is the | :07:38. | :07:47. | |
Labour leadership needs to create an inspiring group that people | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
understand. Part of that is definitely where I can see the | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
problem with Hilary Benn, and man I have huge respect for, but it is an | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
odd situation when on matters of war and peace the leader and the Shadow | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
Foreign Secretary are facing in different directions. I understand | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
the need for could heerns. That should interest been addressed early | :08:08. | :08:14. | |
on, but they've got to focus now above all else on an inspiring | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
credible alternative. Are you saying they should sack Hilary Benn or not? | :08:19. | :08:25. | |
I'm open minded about that. Ky see the point about... I think Emily | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
Thornberry would be a good Foreign Secretary. Airia, I want to keep off | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
the women thing for a moment. Danny, should he sack Hilary Benn? | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
Definitely. Ken living stone is right. I never thought I would hear | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
you say. That The leader of the Labour Party has the right and the | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
duty to create a Shadow Cabinet that can reflect his views. In particular | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
Jeremy Corbyn has got an anti-imperialist view of foreign | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
policy. That's one of the reasons he was elected leader. He has to be a | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
Shadow Cabinet and leadership that reflects that. He didn't have that | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
at the moment. He was forced into the free vote against his wishes. | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
That have happened I said he has to have a Shadow Cabinet reshuffle. He | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
would be wrong to back off doing it. Aisha, would that cause a rebellion | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
in the enter of the right of the party? It would create a huge | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
impasse in the party. He should not sack Jeremy Corbyn... Hilary Benn. | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
Corbyn has credit for trying to do things differently. He should have a | :09:30. | :09:36. | |
broad tent Shadow Cabinet. I think it is something that is ironic to | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
have stood on the new politics and inclusive and then sack somebody | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
because they voted against you, when Jeremy Corbyn has rebelled against | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
the whip many, many, many times. What does Labour stand for on | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
foreign policy if the leader of the party and his Shadow Foreign | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
Secretary don't agree on the core foreign affairs issues? But Jeremy | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
Corbyn isn't going to agree with many of his PLP and Shadow Cabinet. | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
He has won the support of the membership but not the PLP. Can the | :10:10. | :10:16. | |
party exist with this broad church approach? That's the bit that looks | :10:17. | :10:22. | |
messy. Within limits. Look, when Tony Blair moved Robin Cook as | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
Foreign Secretary in 2001 he wasn't purging Robin Cook. He was on the | :10:28. | :10:33. | |
basis of Robin Cook having differences in opinion which erupted | :10:34. | :10:41. | |
in the aftermath of the Iraq war. Emily Thornberry isn't a Corbynista. | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
She supported the bombing of Iraq. The differences would be more | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
manageable. When you have a leader and a Shadow Foreign Secretary | :10:49. | :10:50. | |
facing in different directions on and a Shadow Foreign Secretary | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
war and peace it is difficult. I opposed to bombing of Syria but I do | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
think the moment the priorities facing this country are issues of | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
domestic policies. This constant focus on foreign policy issue, all | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
sides have to take responsibility. A certain part of the PLP want him to | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
go, so what he has to do is make sure he keeps with the activists and | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
the members who elected him, and keeps faith with the reason they | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
elected him, for a strong, coherent left-wing platform. He has won the | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
right to put that to people. If you lose half the shadow Cabinet as a | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
result of taking your kind of advice, are you've got a problem. I | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
think only a portion of the PLP would go as far as to rebel against | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
him. Those people are incapable of being bought off by him keeping | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
Hilary Benn. If he keeps Hilary Benn this time they will bank the fact he | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
nearly sacked him and didn't. They will assume they can push him on | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
other issues. He is weak, because he doesn't have the support of the PLP | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
and his Shadow Cabinet. His best bet, and the thing that's | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
frustrating, and so many people have contacted me to say this, we | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
shouldn't be starting 2016 with a massive story about a reshuffle. | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
They had a rail announcement to make today. Correct. The doctors are | :12:16. | :12:24. | |
about to go on strike. Floods et cetera. I want to return to the | :12:25. | :12:31. | |
women issue. We'll watch your fame later. | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
One man who has not been featuring in the reshuffle is the MP | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
This evening he confirmed he is now subject to a police investigation | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
into a historical rape allegation - allegations he described as | :12:42. | :12:43. | |
We talked to him today, but before that investigation became | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
For months, Mr Danczuk's been in the public eye - | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
his relationship with his former wife, Karen, was already | :12:51. | :12:52. | |
His subsequent breakdown played out in the tabloids: | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
Revelations that he sent sexually loaded texts | :12:57. | :12:58. | |
to a 17-year-old girl saw him stripped of the Labour Party whip. | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
Mr Danczuc's reputation was made in the newspapers - | :13:04. | :13:05. | |
Newsnight can reveal that Mr Danczuk has been taking payments | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
from a photo agency that takes pictures of him and sells them | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
Simon Danczuc, you have said that there's no fool like an old fool, | :13:15. | :13:23. | |
but do you accept that this sex thing was wrong? | :13:24. | :13:31. | |
but do you accept that this sexting was wrong? | :13:32. | :13:33. | |
Absolutely, I have said it was inapprropriate and I've | :13:34. | :13:35. | |
apologised for that unreservedly. | :13:36. | :13:36. | |
I think you have to see the context of this. | :13:37. | :13:38. | |
This young woman got in touch with me some months ago. | :13:39. | :13:41. | |
During the course of several months we had | :13:42. | :13:43. | |
exchanges across social media and just at a low point in my life | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
sexual texts and I responded accordingly and I shouldn't have | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
Was it wrong though, because in your defence you have | :13:51. | :14:00. | |
been quoted as saying some men prefer blondes, | :14:01. | :14:01. | |
some men prefer brunettes, you prefer young women. | :14:02. | :14:03. | |
In itself that sounds a bit icky, doesn't it? | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
But I'm just making the point, I can't deny the fact that I prefer | :14:09. | :14:15. | |
young women and different people have different preferences. | :14:16. | :14:17. | |
You know my first wife was ten years younger | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
than me, my second wife was 17 years younger than me. | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
My last girlfriend was 17 years younger than me and I was just | :14:25. | :14:30. | |
making that point, but of course I accept I have made a mistake | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
and I have apologised for that and I think | :14:34. | :14:35. | |
And a 17-year-old, let's just be clear a 17-year-old is too | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
Yeah, absolutely, but you have got to bear in mind this is somebody | :14:41. | :14:47. | |
who I have only ever communicated with | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
across social media, I've never spoken to her, | :14:51. | :14:52. | |
Because the way it has been reported it is almost as if you're | :14:53. | :14:58. | |
Do you accept that that is how it appears? | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
No, well, the only reason it appears like that is because the tabloid | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
newspapers have decided to report it in that way. | :15:08. | :15:09. | |
They have conflated several months of pleasant exchanges | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
of messages into what appears to be from them into just a few days | :15:13. | :15:20. | |
of activity and that is just not the case. | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
Has this young woman Sophina, been in touch with you recently? | :15:24. | :15:25. | |
Yes, she has been in touch, a day or two she sent me a message | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
saying she was sorry for what happened during | :15:30. | :15:31. | |
the course of the last few days and I'm grateful | :15:32. | :15:33. | |
I communicated via the newspapers to say that I was sorry, | :15:34. | :15:42. | |
not just to family and friends and constituents, but also sorry | :15:43. | :15:44. | |
But I was pleased to receive the message from her saying that | :15:45. | :15:51. | |
and I think it shows a sign of maturity on her part. | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
Aren't you fearful though that this work that you've done, | :15:55. | :15:56. | |
particularly what you have done on Cyril Smith, | :15:57. | :15:58. | |
will be tarnished and undermined by the current allegations | :15:59. | :16:00. | |
I have apologised for the mistakes that I have made and my credibility | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
And I have to work harder than ever before. | :16:08. | :16:13. | |
Over the years, do you think that it was | :16:14. | :16:22. | |
to be a mistake for you to court the media in the way that it appears | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
No, I think I have been involved in the media in terms | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
of getting a message across and if you're running | :16:31. | :16:32. | |
a campaign where you want to get certain messages across, | :16:33. | :16:35. | |
then there's a variety of ways of doing it, | :16:36. | :16:37. | |
whether it's doing it in the chamber in Parliament and also | :16:38. | :16:39. | |
whether it's through different forms of media. | :16:40. | :16:41. | |
Look, in the register of members' interests, | :16:42. | :16:47. | |
you got paid ?1,100 by an agency called Famed Flynet, | :16:48. | :16:49. | |
which is a photographic agency, from what we can see, | :16:50. | :16:52. | |
this is an agency that follows you around, takes | :16:53. | :16:54. | |
pictures of you, and then sells them to tabloid newspapers. | :16:55. | :16:56. | |
No, well, what I have done with that organisation is provide | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
media advice and given them ideas about what they might and might | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
That is my choice, if I want to do that type of work, and I don't | :17:07. | :17:17. | |
make any apologies for it, there is nothing against doing that. | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
It provides an insight and some transparency in terms of my life. | :17:21. | :17:22. | |
Not anything that I have ever shied away from. | :17:23. | :17:24. | |
But it could look like you're tipping them off about where | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
you're going to be so they can take photos of you to sell to tabloid | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
Well, but I have just made the point I advised them... | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
No, the point I'm making is I advise them on a whole | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
range of different issues and I have done for some time. | :17:40. | :17:42. | |
Of course I receive payment for that and I | :17:43. | :17:44. | |
declare it properly in the members' register. | :17:45. | :17:46. | |
So that it is transparent and open so they can see it. | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
That's right, about photos and everything else, | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
That is clear in the book of members' interest. | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
I'm declaring what I'm doing and being honest | :17:59. | :18:01. | |
But on this case, sorry I need to press you on this, | :18:02. | :18:07. | |
I mean how many MPs have a relationship, | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
a financial relationship with a photographic | :18:11. | :18:12. | |
agency that is taking pictures of them and then receiving | :18:13. | :18:14. | |
That's surely got to be wrong hasn't it? | :18:15. | :18:21. | |
No, I don't think it's wrong at all actually. | :18:22. | :18:30. | |
How should you view the latest breakdown in relations between Iran | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
Is it religion - the latest instalment of that ancient | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
Is it geo-politics - the rivalry between two | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
Or is it an internal Saudi problem - the killing of a prominent Shia | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
by the Saudis, simply an attempt to pacify hardliners in the country, | :18:47. | :18:49. | |
by showing the authorities can be tough on Shiites? | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
Whatever the cause, antagonism in the Middle East has been | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
the order of the day - other countries weighing | :18:59. | :19:00. | |
We asked the eminent historian Professor Ali Ansari, | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
from St Andrews University to give us his take on the context, | :19:04. | :19:06. | |
cause and consequence of Saudi/Iran trouble. | :19:07. | :19:23. | |
If you look at the contemporary Muslim word, about 90% are Sunnis. | :19:24. | :19:34. | |
They're considered the more orthodox branch and 10% in Iran, Iraq, and | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
elsewhere are Shias. The main differences are partly theological | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
and another part being on the succession to the prophet, which | :19:46. | :19:52. | |
goes back centuries and these two conflicts, one political and one | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
intellectual are the ones that divide the Muslim communities. The | :19:59. | :20:04. | |
disputes around the succession of prophet come to the head between the | :20:05. | :20:17. | |
conflict between the grandson of the prophet and the Yadid and they clash | :20:18. | :20:25. | |
in what is now southern Iraq around 680AD and in an uneven contest where | :20:26. | :20:36. | |
one side is outnumbered, they're slaughtered and that is is seminal | :20:37. | :20:45. | |
moment, the seminal martyrdom that crystallises Shia identity for the | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
future. These divides are not inevitable. During the Iran/Iraq | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
war, Shias fought against the Iranians. They may have done so less | :20:57. | :21:04. | |
willingly. The Iranians were scathing about them and didn't them | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
to be to be true Shia. The Iraqi state in some ways worked. The real | :21:09. | :21:21. | |
problem now is that there could be potential frictions emerging in the | :21:22. | :21:28. | |
Persian gulf, you can find stuff in Bahrain, Iraq and Syria. The real | :21:29. | :21:39. | |
issue with the break down in Saudi/Iran relations is the finding | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
of a solution in Syria is going to be more difficult. And so the | :21:44. | :21:50. | |
relative optimism we may have had at the end of 2015 now we are going to | :21:51. | :21:53. | |
find ourselves in a much more difficult situation. | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
A little earlier, I managed to get the Iranian position | :21:57. | :21:59. | |
from Professor Mohammad Morandi from the University of Tehran. | :22:00. | :22:01. | |
I began by asking him if he saw Saudi/Iran problems, | :22:02. | :22:03. | |
as simply part of an ancient religious conflict? | :22:04. | :22:10. | |
I don't think people here in Tehran would view it that way. Instead of | :22:11. | :22:24. | |
being Shia, Sunni conflict, people think it is Waha versus everyone | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
else. The Saudi have been promoting their brand of Islam which in the | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
view of most people in Iran is an extreme ideology. In addition, the | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
Saudis have been founding extremist groups across the board in the | :22:41. | :22:47. | |
region in Syria, Yemen and created a catastrophe that is going to | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
influence and affect the people here for generations to come. I hear your | :22:51. | :23:03. | |
blaming Wahbism, but looking at from the point of view of the west, your | :23:04. | :23:11. | |
own country, Iran executed 700 people in the fist half of last | :23:12. | :23:19. | |
year. They're not innocent of intervening in neighbouring | :23:20. | :23:26. | |
countries, what difference is there? First, I don't know where you got | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
the number 700. I don't think that is at all accurate. Almost all of | :23:32. | :23:38. | |
the people who have faced capital punishment in Iran were executed | :23:39. | :23:47. | |
because of drug offences. Major drug offences and those drug offences are | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
as a result of the western occupation of Afghanistan. With | :23:52. | :23:59. | |
regards with comparing Iran to Saudi Arabian, Iran has a constitution and | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
elections for the Parliament and the presidency and indirect elections | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
for the leadership. But Saudi Arabia is a family dictatorship. Because of | :24:10. | :24:22. | |
its wealth and because western country have used Wahabism, they | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
have remained aligned with Saudi Arabia. When people were starting to | :24:27. | :24:33. | |
ehope Saudi arab ya and Iran would talk over their differences and a | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
settlement may exist, just tell me how this ends and whether despite | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
the conflict, the two countries can co-operate to make a difference in | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
Syria, where both of you are intervening. Well I think the | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
Iranians again believe that they have done more than the Saudis in | :24:52. | :25:00. | |
trying to bring about rapprochement in the previous Iranian | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
administration they went to Saudi Arabia, but the foreign minister | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
never came to Iran and more recently when hundred of Iranians were killed | :25:09. | :25:16. | |
during the Haj pilgrimage, the Iranians didn't break off relations, | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
although the Saudis never expressed condolences or accepted | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
responsibility. So they have been trying hard to work with Saudi | :25:27. | :25:36. | |
Arabia. Thank you. We should point oit that figure of 700 executions in | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
Iran came from an Amnesty International report on the country. | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
Let's return now to where we began tonight - | :25:46. | :25:47. | |
the politics of the Labour Party | :25:48. | :25:49. | |
You'd think that shunting people around the cabinet or shadow cabinet | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
table should be relatively easy - it can't be harder than coming up | :25:54. | :25:56. | |
a seating plan for an Islington dinner party, can it? | :25:57. | :25:58. | |
Well, history suggests it's harder than it looks - | :25:59. | :26:00. | |
it's multidimensional, and given the paucity of women | :26:01. | :26:02. | |
in most cabinets and shadow cabinets, it certainly isn't | :26:03. | :26:04. | |
as simple as a case of a boy-girl-boy-girl configuration. | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
But let's think about the gender issue facing | :26:09. | :26:10. | |
Ayesha Hazarika was special advisor to Harriet Harman and has made | :26:11. | :26:17. | |
a short film on the subject for us, based on her conversations | :26:18. | :26:19. | |
Women have been key to the success of the Labour Party since its birth. | :26:20. | :26:33. | |
Strong female figures have served the party as MPs, | :26:34. | :26:37. | |
Cabinet Ministers and Deputy Leaders. | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
And I believe that Labour's the only party that has really, | :26:42. | :26:44. | |
truly championed policies that have made a difference to women's lives. | :26:45. | :26:46. | |
Since our new leader, Jeremy Corbyn, was elected, | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
I think there's a problem with women in the Labour Party. | :26:53. | :26:54. | |
We have a male leader, a male Deputy Leader, | :26:55. | :26:56. | |
a male General Secretary, all our mayoral candidates are male. | :26:57. | :27:03. | |
And here we are in 2016 and we still haven't managed to ever | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
Until we recently, I was a Labour special advisor, working for former | :27:07. | :27:16. | |
I invited Harriet to relive the glory days of pink | :27:17. | :27:26. | |
transportation in a very special Newsnight limo. | :27:27. | :27:33. | |
Harriet, thank you so much for coming. | :27:34. | :27:35. | |
Does it remind you of fond memories of the pink bus? | :27:36. | :27:43. | |
It does - they would have been fonder memories if we had actually | :27:44. | :27:46. | |
How does it make you feel that we have an all-male sweep | :27:47. | :27:53. | |
Well I just think we can't have a men-only | :27:54. | :28:00. | |
leadership when we are the party for women and for equality. | :28:01. | :28:03. | |
And women in this country expect to see men and | :28:04. | :28:05. | |
women working together on equal terms. | :28:06. | :28:06. | |
That is what the Labour Party believes in and we can't | :28:07. | :28:09. | |
have an all-male leadership again therefore we have I have to change | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
So you would like to see the rules changed? | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
Yes, to stop there being all-male leadership. | :28:19. | :28:20. | |
In terms of your advice or your hope for | :28:21. | :28:22. | |
the women in the PLP and the many women in the Shadow Cabinet, | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
we shouldn't overlook the fact that we | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
have 50/50 in the Shadow Cabinet, what do you want to see them do? | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
The truth is that women's rights are never going to be taken forward | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
by men in the party, whether they are | :28:36. | :28:37. | |
men on the left, whether they're men on the centre, or men on the right. | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
The truth is it is women in the party, Labour women, | :28:42. | :28:44. | |
that will take forward women's rights and even | :28:45. | :28:45. | |
though we haven't got any women in the top leadership, | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
that makes it even more important for them to put | :28:49. | :28:50. | |
themselves forward and you know be proponents for women | :28:51. | :28:52. | |
One of the party's new MPs, Jess Phillips, aims to do just that. | :28:53. | :29:02. | |
But she's concerned that others aren't putting up enough of a fight. | :29:03. | :29:09. | |
I thought we would do old Labour beer and sandwiches, | :29:10. | :29:11. | |
Do you think the culture within the Labour Party is changing, | :29:12. | :29:18. | |
do you think it has become more misogynistic? | :29:19. | :29:20. | |
What I think is more worrying about the | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
culture in the Labour Party is it's very left-wing feminists are putting | :29:25. | :29:31. | |
up with a lot more than they would have from any other man, | :29:32. | :29:33. | |
because Jeremy Corbyn is saying is it. | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
Had Tony Blair not given any of the top | :29:38. | :29:46. | |
jobs to a woman, had that same make-up of his team existed, | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
people would rightly have been up in arms, | :29:50. | :29:51. | |
but it's sort a bit like some people in the Labour Party are accepting | :29:52. | :29:54. | |
sort of low level non-violent misogyny, because it's Jeremy Corbyn | :29:55. | :29:57. | |
in the future? at the title at some point | :29:58. | :30:01. | |
Absolutely, I would consider doing it, a long time in the future. It is | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
not something I am planning on doing soon but it is something I would do | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
in the future, yes. Over the summer, six great women went for the leader | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
and deputy roles and none were successful. The current Labour | :30:15. | :30:18. | |
Shadow Cabinet does have more women than men, which is to be welcomed. | :30:19. | :30:23. | |
The shadow women and qualities Minister is Kate Green. She's been | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
looking at what can be done to make sure we don't ever again have an | :30:28. | :30:33. | |
all-male team. It is no discredit whatsoever to Jeremy, to Tom or | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
Siddiq, who fought a very fair campaign and won, that we ended up | :30:38. | :30:43. | |
with an all-male line-up. What it made me feel instantly is once and | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
for all we have to make sure this can never happen again. There is | :30:48. | :30:54. | |
another potential problem looming for Labour women in Westminster, the | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
forthcoming changes to boundaries, which would reduce the number of | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
seats. This is likely to create a battle for the ones that remain. The | :31:04. | :31:09. | |
share of the women's parliamentary Labour Party, Dawn Butler, believes | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
those held by women should be protected. With these boundary | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
changes it will be a fight, literally a fight. My fear is that | :31:16. | :31:22. | |
women will be picked off. So that is a really big fear for me, so I have | :31:23. | :31:27. | |
written to the leader and the Deputy Leader, because Tom is doing the | :31:28. | :31:30. | |
review on how the party structures work et cetera. So yes, absolutely. | :31:31. | :31:38. | |
It is a huge worry for me. The kind of long term changes that Labour | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
women want will take time to introduce, but some changes are | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
happening right now. Tonight it is all about the reshuffle. My strong | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
advice to Jeremy is, if you want to shake things up for the better, make | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
sure that women get some of those top positions in the Shadow Cabinet. | :31:57. | :31:58. | |
It cannot just be jobs for the boys. Well, Ayesha is still with us | :31:59. | :32:05. | |
and we're also joined by Cat Smith, Evening to you both. Does Jeremy | :32:06. | :32:13. | |
Corbyn get an easy time on this because he comes from a more | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
left-wing part of the political spectrum? I think it is right that | :32:19. | :32:28. | |
we ask what our politicians are doing to promote gender equality in | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
the party. Jeremy Corbyn has set the standard by having a Shadow Cabinet | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
more than 50% made up of women when the rest of the party has a way to | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
go. The constituency party chairs, a third of them are women. If you look | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
at Labour leaders in local government, it is a long way lagging | :32:45. | :32:51. | |
behind the parliamentary Labour Party. These are the important | :32:52. | :32:55. | |
issues we should be addressing. So you are addressing that the party | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
has a problem, not Jeremy Corbyn personally? I would say society has | :33:00. | :33:02. | |
a problem with promoting women into positions of responsibility. Sexism | :33:03. | :33:04. | |
exist, patriarchy exists and it operates in the Labour Party as much | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
as any other sphere of society. Would you like in the reshuffle | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
Jeremy Corbyn to put a woman in one of the top jobs? I dare ask the | :33:12. | :33:14. | |
question, what do you think the top jobs are? The role of the opposition | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
is to hold the Government to account for the spending decisions they | :33:19. | :33:21. | |
make. Health and education are the second and third biggest spending | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
deficits. We already have women. I would like to continue to see a | :33:26. | :33:28. | |
Shadow Cabinet that's majority women in the way that it already is. | :33:29. | :33:35. | |
Ayesha, this concern with the top jobs as opposed to the number of | :33:36. | :33:39. | |
people in the cabinet, sitting round the table, that's pretty recent | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
isn't it? Tony Blair didn't have a woman in what we traditionally call | :33:44. | :33:50. | |
the top jobs until 2006. He had been in power when he put Margaret | :33:51. | :33:53. | |
Beckett into the Foreign Office? We always want to feel we are making | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
progress. The Labour Party has been the party for women. We pride | :33:58. | :34:05. | |
ourselves on making progress. It is not Jeremy's fault that the party | :34:06. | :34:11. | |
elected a clean sweep at the top. Everyone at the top, in terms of | :34:12. | :34:14. | |
where the power lies, are men. You're being churlish aren't you? | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
More than half the cabinet are women. You've got women in some of | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
the key jobs, if not the key jobs? What I think Jeremy should do is do | :34:21. | :34:26. | |
a job swap with Angela Eagle and John McDonnell. If all the jobs are | :34:27. | :34:31. | |
equally of merit why don't we see Angela's do a job swap job | :34:32. | :34:47. | |
The bunker around Jeremy Corbyn is very male as well. That is true. The | :34:48. | :35:24. | |
power is in the hands of the members who elected Jeremy Corbyn as leader | :35:25. | :35:27. | |
of the Labour Party and Tom Watson as the Deputy Leader and Sadiq Khan | :35:28. | :35:30. | |
as the Mayor of London. There were plenty of women candidates. Some of | :35:31. | :35:33. | |
whom I backed in these elections. It's the will of the membership. The | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
membership gave Jeremy Corbyn a clear mandate, bigger than Tony | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
Blair's mandate when elected leader. He has a big mandate isn't isn't | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
afraid to use it, but he has the power of appointment. We all know | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
that the top jobs are important. I think it does look bad for the | :35:52. | :35:54. | |
Labour Party to not have a single one of those four top jobs held by a | :35:55. | :36:00. | |
woman when we have got so many able women. That's down to the position | :36:01. | :36:07. | |
of the members isn't it? The members don't choose the Shadow Cabinet and | :36:08. | :36:09. | |
the Shadow Cabinet is majority women. What looks bad is the | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
Conservative Party, which doesn't pride itself on these issues in the | :36:15. | :36:23. | |
same way as Labour does, did provide how many decades ago, 1975, a woman | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
Prime Minister. A woman leader and then a woman Prime Minister. That | :36:27. | :36:28. | |
must rankle doesn't it? Not particularly. I think the Margaret | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
Thatcher being Prime Minister, when you put one woman being in power, | :36:35. | :36:40. | |
that doesn't necessarily shift the culture of the party. The | :36:41. | :36:43. | |
Conservative Party's cabinet is made up of 32% women. Women. We need to | :36:44. | :36:52. | |
leave it there. Ayesha, thank you, thank you both very much. | :36:53. | :36:54. | |
There is just time in these first days of 2016, to catch one | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
of the great art exhibitions of 2015. | :36:58. | :36:59. | |
Goya's Portraits at the National Gallery - | :37:00. | :37:01. | |
of some of our leading cultural institutions. | :37:02. | :37:07. | |
Yes, there are fresh backsides on the big | :37:08. | :37:09. | |
the Tate galleries in London, and the National Gallery itself. | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
Stephen Smith has this exclusive interview with the new man | :37:13. | :37:19. | |
at the National Gallery, Gabriele Finaldi. | :37:20. | :37:36. | |
I'm impressed by Goya's extraordinary range. One of the many | :37:37. | :37:50. | |
hardships of this job is a private tour of the National Gallery's great | :37:51. | :37:52. | |
Goya show in the company tour of the National Gallery's great | :37:53. | :37:59. | |
museum's former Spanish expert. She has two rings, one of which has her | :38:00. | :38:08. | |
name on it, Australian be a, and the other has Goya's name on it. That | :38:09. | :38:11. | |
moment of reflection, that moment of thought before the brush touches the | :38:12. | :38:14. | |
canvass. The son of an Italian father, Gabriele Finaldi was raised | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
in London, and after a spell at the prestigious Prado gallery in Madrid, | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
he is back on his old turf. I live in Catford in South London and have | :38:21. | :38:23. | |
done since the 1970s, very proud of that. I come from quite a large | :38:24. | :38:26. | |
family. I'm the eldest of 8 brothers and sisters. I've got six children | :38:27. | :38:32. | |
of my own. Not too many of your predecessors I suspect hail from | :38:33. | :38:39. | |
Catford. People may find that endearing, if that isn't | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
patronising, that you are not limoed in from Knightsbridge. It might be | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
patronising, that you are not limoed quite nice to live in Knightsbridge | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
for central London, but for the moment that's impossible. This is a | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
man of parts. I used to play in a dance band as a young man. It was | :38:59. | :39:05. | |
how I got my way through early years of marriage and early years of PhD | :39:06. | :39:21. | |
wrench. Early years of PhD research. I like to accompany people singing | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
and so on. It is a case of musical chairs at our great cultural | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
institutions. The heads of the two at a time | :39:30. | :39:45. | |
galleries in London go on to other things, although Sir Nicholas Serota | :39:46. | :39:56. | |
stays put. It is an interesting change in the museum landscape in | :39:57. | :40:02. | |
London. I think that offers new possibilities for collaboration. | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
Perhaps a bit of a generational thing. Some of our more senior | :40:07. | :40:12. | |
colleagues are moving on to other activities. I think of Neil McGregor | :40:13. | :40:21. | |
at the British Museum, and there's a sense in which we are moving into a | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
different sort of period in museums. Mr Gabriele Finaldi says the | :40:27. | :40:32. | |
industrial dispute over outsourcing which closed some galleries last | :40:33. | :40:39. | |
year has been resolved and he promises mix of old subjects and | :40:40. | :40:41. | |
favourites. There can be changes, particularly the way the gallery | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
presents to its the outside world, in terms of to people who may never | :40:47. | :40:52. | |
come to the National Gallery. Clearly the technology, the | :40:53. | :40:55. | |
development in what can happen in digital has been so extraordinary | :40:56. | :41:00. | |
over last few years, and so many other museums are doing magnificent | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
things, that gallery can reach nowt a way it hasn't done before. The | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
gallery has probably more knowledge about its own collection than any | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
other museum in the world. That's knowledge that we want to share, | :41:14. | :41:25. | |
that we want to put out. You come across the most beautiful objects | :41:26. | :41:32. | |
ever made by human beings. They might be to do with war, with faith, | :41:33. | :41:35. | |
with family. But we leave you with a preview | :41:36. | :41:41. | |
of the work of young independent film maker, | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
Charlie Lyne, who is annoyed at the charges levied on young, | :41:46. | :41:47. | |
independent film-makers by the British Board of Film | :41:48. | :41:50. | |
Classification. To watch and classify a film, | :41:51. | :41:53. | |
the board charges more than ?7 So to annoy the classifiers, | :41:54. | :41:56. | |
Charlie is raising money online to submit the longest film | :41:57. | :42:04. | |
he can purely consisting of a single In fact, he's raised enough | :42:05. | :42:07. | |
to make it a ten-hour epic. But some of his supporters now | :42:08. | :42:10. | |
want him to to add a few sound effects and the occasional | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
obscene flash frame, just to make sure the | :42:15. | :42:16. | |
censors don't nod off. | :42:17. | :42:19. |