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Tonight Donald Trump shows his hand and leaves no one in any doubt | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
of the kind of government he wants to run. | :00:08. | :00:11. | |
Three hardliners on immmigration, justice and terrorism - | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
this man will be his security advisor. | :00:15. | :00:24. | |
Anybody that is foolish enough to think that conflict or wall can't | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
break out again, although have to do is study a little bit of history. | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
They call them Jam, people who are Just About Managing, | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
but is it anything more than a sticky new label? | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
We'll discuss whether the Government can actually do anything for them. | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
When this 14 week job interview is over only one | :00:43. | :00:44. | |
And has the Trump victory just proved celebrity status is now | :00:45. | :00:54. | |
I can comment on something I am sort of an expert at, | :00:55. | :01:01. | |
which is Donald Trump's much better on camera. | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
He's really good at delivering lines and I supported Hillary but she's | :01:06. | :01:07. | |
The big question - perhaps the biggest question - | :01:08. | :01:27. | |
of a Donald Trump presidency was whether it would | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
sound very different to a Donald Trump campaign. | :01:31. | :01:32. | |
The first indication of an answer came today with a resounding no. | :01:33. | :01:34. | |
The President-elect has named three of his top cabinet posts - | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
national security advisor, attorney general and CIA chief. | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
All three jobs have been taken by loyalists, all of them hardline | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
supporters of the Trump policy on immigration and on terrorism. | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
They flesh out parts of Trump we weren't sure | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
Tonight, as Donald Trump agreed to pay out $25 million to settle | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
a lawsuit over Trump University, a move he now hopes will end that | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
controversy, we ask what his time in government will really look like, | :02:01. | :02:05. | |
and whether today's annoucnements provide the closest indication that | :02:06. | :02:07. | |
Donald Trump did indeed mean what he said. | :02:08. | :02:14. | |
The first top Trump cards will not come as any surprise to those | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
expecting the new presidency to herald a sharp shift to the right. | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
Retired Lieutenant General Mike Flynn will be national security | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
adviser, a man with a tough approach to militant Islam who warned us back | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
in July to take trumpet his plans seriously. They underestimate Donald | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
Trump. They underestimate his big strategic leadership capabilities, | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
his very effective large problem-solving capabilities, and | :02:46. | :02:56. | |
his ability to make decisions. Michael Flynn, like Trump, has | :02:57. | :02:59. | |
called for closer ties between the US and Russia, a warmth that has | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
worried security experts. Sarah Chase, a security adviser, worked in | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
the same office as Mike Flynn for three years. He is someone that at | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
best I would be comfortable with if there were grown-ups in the room. | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
The problem is in this administration, there really don't | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
so far seem to be many grown-ups. And so I don't see what prevents | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
things from going off the rails a bit. Trump's Attorney General will | :03:28. | :03:33. | |
be Jeff Sessions, a man who sees eye to eye with Trump on immigration, | :03:34. | :03:36. | |
and was the first senator to endorse him. The house of the Senate are | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
charged up, they believe we have got a new leader, and the president will | :03:43. | :03:50. | |
be the one who sets the agenda. The names still have to be vetted by a | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
confirmation hearing, and this is where Sessions could face obstacles. | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
I am not a racist, I am not insensitive to blacks, I have | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
supported civil rights activity in my state. Accused of racism 30 years | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
ago, he was forced to withdraw from a judge ship under Reagan. I have | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
known him for several years, albeit not well. He has been a very able | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
senator, a Conservative member, but you never know what is in someone's | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
heart. I just won't believe that he is a racist. Mike Pompeo will head | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
the CIA, a former Army officer who has served three terms in Congress | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
committee shot to prominence over the congressional investigation into | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
Benghazi, memorable for its 12 hours of unflinching questioning of | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
Hillary Clinton. Are you saying there was no balance? There was two | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
pages. I have seen the CIA function almost as a rogue organisation, and | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
the thought of having a rogue in charge of a rogue organisation is | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
pretty distressing. Of course, these incendiary words like rogue, racist, | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
ideologue, may strike a note of fear into those who, for the sake of | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
argument, we might call the liberal elite. But they won't have much | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
truck with Trump supporters themselves. These appointments have | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
already had the backing of the former leader of the KKK as well as | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
more moderates along the way. However loud the words of warning | :05:20. | :05:26. | |
shout, at this point it is criticism shouting at itself. These | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
appointments confirm that Rob rewards loyalty and they have | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
probably all passed muster with his son-in-law, Jarrod Cashin, critical | :05:34. | :05:39. | |
gatekeeper to the selection process. The one confirmation we haven't had | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
yet is Pape Souare is crucial, the Secretary of State. Names touted for | :05:43. | :05:48. | |
this role include Marco Rubio and Mitt Romney, both as likely and are | :05:49. | :05:55. | |
unlikely as each other. And if anybody wondered whether this | :05:56. | :05:57. | |
campaign rhetoric would be cemented in policy, perhaps the first hints | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
are starting to emerge. Make America great again. If Trump's own ideology | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
was ever in doubt, that of those who will now surround him and act for | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
him are not. Donald Trump's wall is beginning to take on a whole new | :06:14. | :06:20. | |
meaning, a set of Dell -- citadel around the man himself. | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
John Fredricks is a long-time Trump supporter. | :06:24. | :06:24. | |
He speaks to a solid base of supporters through his | :06:25. | :06:27. | |
And from Washington I'm joined by Julianne Smith, | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
a Deputy National Security Advisor to the Obama administration. | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
John, do you think it is a good or bad thing that Donald Trump seems to | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
be surrounding himself with completely like-minded folk, men? I | :06:39. | :06:45. | |
think he is surrounding himself with those that he wants to put in his | :06:46. | :06:47. | |
cabinet that will carry out his agenda. He ran one of the most | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
specific campaigns in the history of America. He laid out very, very | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
specific agenda items. He told the American people exactly what he was | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
going to do. He said it over and over and over, it was not vague, it | :07:05. | :07:06. | |
was not a visionary without specifics. He proposed a contract | :07:07. | :07:13. | |
for America, everything that he said he was going to do, we expect Donald | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
Trump is going to do. He got elected with the biggest electoral college | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
mandate since Ronald Reagan in 1984. This election was not close. He has | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
a mandate. We expect President-elect Trump is going to do exactly what he | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
told the American people he was going to do for 18 months. Is it | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
matter to you that one of those people is Jeff Sessions, one of only | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
two people not to be confirmed as a federal judge because of racist | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
remarks, and now he will be Attorney General, does that bother you? | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
Absolutely not. I know Jeff Sessions very well, I know him from Alabama, | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
I have talked to him many times, probably had him on my show 20 | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
times. So it is not a worry? Jeff Sessions has represented the state | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
of Alabama, he has been a stellar member of the US Senate, he is a | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
statesman. We can go back and find what somebody set or posted on | :08:16. | :08:21. | |
social media said in 1959 or 1963. He was denied a position as a | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
federal judge. Does racism not matter any more in America? Of | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
course race matters! You can't just paint people racist because you | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
don't agree with their policies. What happened on November the 8th | :08:37. | :08:39. | |
and America had nothing to do with race at all. It was about jobs, and | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
it was an absolute revolt in America of working-class Americans who have | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
been kicked to the curb, their jobs shipped overseas, they had no | :08:49. | :08:55. | |
advocate until Donald Trump came along, and he said, look, I am going | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
to fix this. I want to bring Julianne Smith in. This is clearly | :09:00. | :09:06. | |
what America has voted for, this is the Trump that they want. Let me | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
first say in terms of Trump delivering on his promises, we have | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
already seen a softening of his core position, so I disagree that the | :09:18. | :09:19. | |
American people are going to get exactly what they voted for. A lot | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
is said on the campaign trail. It is a different story when you are | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
sitting in the Oval Office. He has rolled back his language on the | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
infamous wall. He has rolled back his promises on health care already | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
after meeting with the president. For me personally it is a good | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
thing, because I don't want him to deliver on many other things he | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
about on the campaign Trail, and so I would like to see him soften his | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
position on Russia. I don't think we should declare that our article five | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
commitments inside the Nato alliance are connected to whether or not our | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
allies are spending enough on defence. So yes, I do hope that the | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
voice of reason prevails, and that when these folks get into the chair | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
and prepare to govern, they are faced with the reality of managing a | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
very complex national security environment, and things are going to | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
look a lot different is once they get into that White House. John, I | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
want to look at that voice of reason in the detail. David Duke, former | :10:18. | :10:24. | |
leader of the KKK, said that Jeff Sessions must stop the massive race | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
discrimination against whites. Are you happy that these people who are | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
tweeting these kinds of statements are now representative of your | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
government? It is unbelievable, Emily, that you would bring that up, | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
and I disagree totally with Julianne, we will get to that of a | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
second. You can find complete idiots like David Duke who is a | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
reprehensible character, who Donald Trump has disavowed a thousand | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
times, he wants to put out a tweet, I don't care what he says. What | :10:58. | :11:05. | |
about Mike Flynn, he tweeted that fear of Muslims is rational. These | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
people have nothing to do with the campaign. He is the new national | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
Security adviser. That is Michael Flynn. He said fear of Muslims is | :11:16. | :11:25. | |
rational. He said that in February. And that tweet was accurate at the | :11:26. | :11:28. | |
time based on the fact that some Muslims had come in to San | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
Bernardino, they were not properly vetted and they blew 30 people away | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
at a Christmas party. This is a tough time in America. We have the | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
same thing going on at a gay bar in Orlando, so that was justified at | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
the time. But to bring up David Duke is ridiculous. It was before | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
Orlando, actually. You wanted to bring in Julianne. Julianne, do you | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
accept that this is a failure I Democrats, that if this is what | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
America has chosen, then Obama's priorities with Cuba and Iran were | :12:04. | :12:10. | |
the wrong ones. Identix that at all. Let me remind everybody that Hillary | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
Clinton did win the popular vote, so this was not to me an indication of | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
a sweeping mandate. I think again when you see the Trump team settle | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
into their seats, just wait. We can have this conversation in a couple | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
of months. They will go soft on a lot of these things. They will | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
understand the benefits we get from our Iran deal, our friends in Israel | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
and abroad and why they support the Iran deal, why it makes us safer. | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
They will deal with the complexities of China active in the South China | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
Sea, a resurgent Russia aggressively trying to divide Europe from the | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
United States. When they are faced with this very Comdex agenda, I have | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
a feeling you are going to CH Ainge intone. Look at what we have seen | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
already since the election. There has been a tremendous softening | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
opposition. John? There is no softening of position whatsoever. He | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
is going to build a wall just like he said he is going to do. Now he is | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
saying a fence. It is going to be a wall! You can read into anything you | :13:15. | :13:21. | |
want. He hasn't been in office yet. If you look at the number of people | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
that he has nominated or appointed to key staff positions, they are | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
wholly consistent with his position. What you are doing in his Washington | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
elite doublespeak, that is what people rejected, that somehow this | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
is complex. One last question to both of you. Do you think America's | :13:41. | :13:47. | |
allies need now to be concerned about the kind of world we are | :13:48. | :13:50. | |
entering and whether we will remain allies in it? Julianne? Yes, they | :13:51. | :13:57. | |
should be worried. They should be worried that you have a president | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
coming into office who is questioning the overarching value of | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
our global network of alliances. Russia and China wished they had a | :14:06. | :14:07. | |
network of alliances and partners like we did, and guess what, when we | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
are in the soup, the first people we call our our allies in Europe. For | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
Donald Trump to call into question the Nato alliance is unbelievable, | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
and I think our allies, particularly in Europe also other corners of the | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
world, should be very concerned by his comments on nuclear | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
nonproliferation, the way in which he is waving around America First. | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
It is an unbelievable stance to take on Nato, John? I think eventually | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
our allies across the globe are going to understand what a | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
compelling president this is going to be. He is going to put America | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
first in everything he does, and that will be a little bit different. | :14:49. | :14:55. | |
Nato was constructed when we had the Iron Curtain, it is outdated and | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
needs to be restructured. People that are not paying their share | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
should be paying their fair share, that is the way the world works. I | :15:03. | :15:08. | |
think Donald Trump is going to look for alliances that make sense. He is | :15:09. | :15:14. | |
going to wipe out ices, and I think the allies are going to look at him | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
as a beacon of freedom for the world. We will have to come back to | :15:18. | :15:20. | |
you both at some point. Thank you both very much indeed for joining | :15:21. | :15:21. | |
us. It was in her first | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
speech as Prime Minister on the steps of Downing Street back | :15:26. | :15:27. | |
in July that Theresa May turned her focus on an economic | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
group she referred to those people But that, in the age of Twitter, | :15:31. | :15:32. | |
wasn't short enough And with the reudctionist speed | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
of a Thick Of It satire, the phrase got sliced | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
to three letters, or Jam. All politicians have attempted | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
to speak to this demographic - alarm clock Britain, the scrimpers | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
and savers, squeezed middle - the ten million or so adults | :15:46. | :15:47. | |
who make up a good proportion So does the Jam grouping | :15:48. | :15:50. | |
mean anything different? Ahead of next week's Autumn | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
statement, the first big set piece test of the Government's policies | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
post the Brexit vote, we ask what capacity the Government | :16:00. | :16:01. | |
actually has to spend. # Pump up the jam #. | :16:02. | :16:20. | |
Theresa May told us who she was for even before she told us what you was | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
going to do. You have a job but you don't always have job security. You | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
have your own home but you worry about paying the mortgage. You can | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
just about manage but you worry about the cost of living and getting | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
your kids into a good school. The government I lead will be driven not | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
by the interests of the privileged few, but by jewels. We will do | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
everything we can to give you more control over your lives. -- but by | :16:47. | :16:49. | |
jewels. Just about managing rapidly became | :16:50. | :16:56. | |
known as the jams. They are only the latest expression of a common | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
political theme. In the US presidential elections we've had | :17:01. | :17:06. | |
forgotten Americans. At the last UK election we had Ed Miliband's | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
squeezed middle. And what ever happened to Nick Clegg's alarm clock | :17:11. | :17:15. | |
Britain? And when he was Prime Minister Gordon Brown could not open | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
his mouth without the words hard-working families come tumbling | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
out. But does any of this mean anything beyond politicians trying | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
to get sweet with swing voters? There is certainly a good reason why | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
the government is appealing to just managing families, these low-income | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
working families. A combination of the effects of the economic | :17:37. | :17:39. | |
downturn. And particularly large increases in housing costs mean the | :17:40. | :17:45. | |
disposable ink runs in this group haven't risen over a decade. -- | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
disposable incomes. This group is right to feel the government should | :17:51. | :17:53. | |
be doing something about them. And the government is right to appeal to | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
them. How do we engage with this demographic? First is finding out | :17:58. | :18:05. | |
who we are talking about... This has been brilliantly satirised by The | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
Thick Of It. They are normal citizens but they have one specific | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
quality that makes them like that. The quiet back people. The quiet | :18:18. | :18:24. | |
that people? That is the general area we are looking at. Unlike the | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
quiet at people are just about managing have been making a lot of | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
noise politically during 2016. There is a huge body of people. They are | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
overwhelmingly the people who chose to leave the EU. Their equivalents | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
in the US voted for Donald Trump in large numbers. Who are in work. Few | :18:46. | :18:53. | |
areas -- in areas which were once industrial and have now declined. | :18:54. | :18:56. | |
They are struggling. They are trying very hard but not getting much of | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
the social product. The desire on the part of the Theresa May | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
government to try and twist the reward towards them a little is | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
sincere. It is excruciatingly difficult to | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
achieve. Next week's Autumn Statement is when | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
we have been told that the government will start delivering for | :19:15. | :19:21. | |
the JAMs. But it is expected the Chancellor will have to win out an | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
extra ?100 billion of borrowing for the coming five years. So what could | :19:26. | :19:31. | |
Philip Hammond do? The previous Chancellor has taken money out of in | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
work benefits which go to working families. Lots of the just managing | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
are on these benefits and restoring some of those cuts at a cost of | :19:39. | :19:46. | |
around ?3 billion would be really targeted to the just managing. It | :19:47. | :19:49. | |
would boost incomes around the bottom half of the distribution. For | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
single parents after about ?3000 per year. Of things could be done for | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
them in next week's Autumn Statement as well as the longer term things | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
like infrastructure and investment which will really help them. Pumping | :20:04. | :20:10. | |
up the just about managing in speeches is simple. After rule, jam | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
tomorrow is the easiest political promise varies. But actually helping | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
this group, especially these more difficult economic times, looks like | :20:20. | :20:22. | |
a far stickier problem. And we have our own late-night | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
quirk. I want to start with something | :20:26. | :20:40. | |
dishonest reporting. We haven't had confirmation. But it is a freeze in | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
fuel duty which was meant to come in next year. -- I want to start with | :20:45. | :20:54. | |
something The Sun is reporting. I'm not surprised. Every time that has | :20:55. | :21:00. | |
come up it is monumentally expensive, by the way, because the | :21:01. | :21:03. | |
Treasury bills into their forecast that they will receive revenue that | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
they will have to then freeze and not get. It is very unpopular and | :21:08. | :21:14. | |
very expensive to raise fuel prices. People use it to get to work. | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
Previous governments have wanted to do that and bowed out at the last | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
minute thinking if we do that it will be immediate and unpopular so | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
they don't. We know this group of people, whether they are the | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
squeezed middle, the alarm clock Britain, we've been through the | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
names, do you hear anything different this time? Is there | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
something concrete you would change in this Autumn Statement? I don't | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
think I'm hearing much difference. The political strategy seems to be | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
the one that has gone before, which is slogans rather than actual | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
solutions. So these just about managing people, two practical | :21:52. | :21:54. | |
things I'd like to see happen in the Autumn Statement, which I think | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
would help people, childcare is something which is a huge issue. The | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
government hadn't been able to make good on their promise of 30 hours of | :22:04. | :22:06. | |
childcare. I would like to see something tangible on that. As well | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
as high-quality nursery supervision. And at the other rendered the family | :22:11. | :22:19. | |
-- at the other end of the family spectrum, money needs to go to | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
elderly care. Money has been cut from social care. These are | :22:24. | :22:26. | |
practical things the government should be thinking about. They are | :22:27. | :22:29. | |
trying to position themselves away from Cameron. If I were them I | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
wouldn't go ahead with this cut inheritance tax, either. It's a | :22:34. | :22:40. | |
credible wish list. Essentially, is there any capacity, in a post Brexit | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
vote world, with the OBR predictions as they are, to do anything? We are | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
talking about what the state can do for those people. In the long term | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
the only possible solution for the middle of the country cannot be | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
redistribution. Because who will pay for that? It'll be the middle. They | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
cannot redistribute money to themselves. They could use their | :23:01. | :23:07. | |
priorities like the inheritance tax. You can have certain changes. At the | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
margin you can do that. You want to try and lift the income of those | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
people by helping them add value to the economy. That means you've got | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
to make the industrial strategy work. You've got to make places | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
outside London... Britain has one big city. If you have one big city | :23:25. | :23:28. | |
the people in it will do OK. So that means growth not welfare? It does | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
not mean I'm not in favour of welfare. I think the longer term | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
drive needs to be about growth. Because they are a new | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
Administration I think the tone is really important. Take the welfare | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
issue. The cuts coming down the track on universal credit are going | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
to hurt as the woman in your BT said. People who are really trying | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
to do the right thing, you know, the hard-working families playing by the | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
rules. -- in your VT. The Tories are really vulnerable on this. We cannot | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
say at the same time, for me for example, an important issue for me | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
is court 's rights. People having the right to take their case to | :24:11. | :24:13. | |
court. We've also seen that the NHS is under strain. Also we cannot | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
spend money on everything. It cannot be our solution to say each time | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
this is too painful, we can't make it, because we are borrowing too | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
much money. I think now after Brexit things will grow slower over the | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
medium term to a point where we are borrowing even more money. Surely | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
benefit is where the government is going to look most vulnerable. Do | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
you want to represent a government that is cutting... The move towards | :24:42. | :24:44. | |
increasing the living wage was the right thing to do. I don't think you | :24:45. | :24:53. | |
can allow the welfare bill to keep increasing. Because we can't afford | :24:54. | :24:55. | |
to do that. Otherwise we have to borrow too much. It's hard to know | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
what you are in favour of. The Labour Party isn't -- is in a | :24:59. | :25:06. | |
difficult position. The Conservatives have changed their | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
economic strategy. They admit they have not hit their target on the | :25:11. | :25:15. | |
deficit. Going back to the stuff we have heard tonight so far, you know, | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
Trump, Brexit, the dissatisfaction that everyday people feel, that | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
their lives are not getting any better, this is a new | :25:26. | :25:28. | |
Administration, a clean sweep. And I think signals are important. Thus | :25:29. | :25:35. | |
Philip Hammond have to be any thing other than boring? None of this | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
creates new money. If we are borrowing a large sum of money at | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
the end we will have to pay that back. We will have to reduce the | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
amount we are borrowing by a certain amount each year. What is your | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
opinion? If we depart from that path it'll only be for a short period and | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
we will have to get back to it... You have Brexit as a backdrop. Even | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
Philip Hammond said nobody voted to be poor. They have to care about | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
those people and make sure they do not send the wrong message. Thank | :26:04. | :26:05. | |
you both very much. Let's go back to the election | :26:06. | :26:07. | |
of Donald Trump now. Historians will try and deconstruct | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
this moment of 2016 But when they look at Trump's | :26:11. | :26:12. | |
successful campaign A builder convinced | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
he was a man of the people? Or a celebrity who harnessed his | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
fame to win the ultimate Perhaps when the dust has settled | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
we will realise something as phenomenal as it is shocking, | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
that in 2016 celebrity finally became the most | :26:28. | :26:29. | |
powerful tool of all. Prized above experience, | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
prized above competence, prized above just about everything | :26:34. | :26:34. | |
you can imagine. Donald Trump harnessed reality TV | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
and then the media - And through that, | :26:42. | :26:43. | |
the White House itself. Stephen Smith has been off | :26:44. | :26:46. | |
to question the very model # I love the looks of you | :26:47. | :27:07. | |
# I'd love to make a... #. They are getting the President-elect | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
ready for his close-up at Madame Tussaud's. Fun fact, his luxurious | :27:11. | :27:24. | |
hair is sourced from yak's hair. We like celebrities so much we will | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
queue in the cold just for a selfie with their effigies. Like the tasty | :27:29. | :27:38. | |
snacks in a gift shop, Donald Trump was the guilty pleasure boaters | :27:39. | :27:45. | |
could not say no to. -- voters. When it came to celebrities, Donald Trump | :27:46. | :27:48. | |
made a virtue of the fact that hardly anybody wants to be seen with | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
him. Did he even get his chauffeur's vote? I'm Donald Trump and I'm | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
always on the lookout for talented people. I'm looking for someone who | :27:59. | :28:04. | |
is a natural leader. Perhaps the -- he clinched victory through TV. The | :28:05. | :28:11. | |
celebrity reckoned it helped. Why do you think he won? The assumption was | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
he probably wouldn't in the end. Hillary Clinton had all of the | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
experience, she had all of the various celebrities backing her for | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
what that's worth. I can comment on something I am sort of an expert at. | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
Donald Trump is much better on camera. He is really good at | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
delivering lines. I supported Hillary. But she is not as talented | :28:33. | :28:40. | |
a performer. You think that was decisive? I think actually every | :28:41. | :28:43. | |
time in the presidential elections the winner is whoever is best at | :28:44. | :28:49. | |
delivering lines on camera. So it probably wasn't as much of a | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
surprise to you than it was to other people? It was a surprise. I thought | :28:55. | :29:00. | |
something would break this time. Ladies and gentlemen, the next, and | :29:01. | :29:06. | |
first female president of the United States, Hillary Clinton! No, there | :29:07. | :29:13. | |
has not been a recount, why didn't Mrs Clinton's Star supporters like | :29:14. | :29:18. | |
Jennifer Lopez help her over the line? Academics are doubtful about | :29:19. | :29:23. | |
the impact of celebrity endorsement. Even though Mrs Clinton did trot out | :29:24. | :29:27. | |
all of those celebrities, they were essentially windowdressing for her | :29:28. | :29:31. | |
campaign. They were not going to be the ones who were actually in | :29:32. | :29:36. | |
contention to run the government. So I think when all said and done, | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
Donald found himself acting as if he was in the ultimate reality TV show. | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
And using all of the techniques he has honed over the years on all of | :29:47. | :29:53. | |
those years on The Apprentice. At Madame Tussaud's and they keep their | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
TV stores that their outpost in Blackpool and their world leaders | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
and politicians here in London. While they might need to review | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
their display criteria now Donald Trump is waxed spectacular. | :30:08. | :30:10. | |
Stephen Smith - and his full interview with actor | :30:11. | :30:12. | |
Joseph Gordon Levitt, talking about the film Snowden | :30:13. | :30:14. | |
That's just about it from us tonight, save for the fact that | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
today marks the 100th anniversary of the end of the Battle | :30:21. | :30:23. | |
of the Somme, the six month inferno which was bloodier for British | :30:24. | :30:25. | |
troops than any other of the First World War. | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
By its end more than 420,000 British soldiers lay dead, wounded | :30:30. | :30:32. | |
or missing with only six miles of land seized from the enemy. | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
In 2014 a treasure trove of photographs, taken of troops | :30:38. | :30:40. | |
on their days off at a local town, was discovered. | :30:41. | :30:43. | |
There they paid a few Francs to send a photo home to their loved ones, | :30:44. | :30:46. | |
documented in Ross Coulthard's "The Lost Tommies". | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
We leave you with just a few of those images. | :30:51. | :30:54. |