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But for Scotland, the campaign continues. The dream shall never | :00:00. | 3:59:59 | |
die. The First Minister Alex Salmond has | :00:00. | :00:16. | |
resigned after losing the referendum vote. For me, my time as leader is | :00:17. | :00:23. | |
nearly over. But for Scotland, the campaign continues and the dream | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
shall never die. Mr Salmond says he will stand down after the SNP | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
conference. We will assess what it means for the country and we will | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
look back at his career. The shop decision came as the no campaign | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
celebrated victory. -- shock decision. The three pro-union | :00:42. | :00:48. | |
parties have made clear commitments on further powers for the Scottish | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
parliament. We will ensure that those commitments are honoured in | :00:55. | :01:01. | |
full. We would be looking back on an extraordinary night, as independence | :01:02. | :01:06. | |
supporters continue to party with defiance. We will assess how this | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
huge turnout affects the future of all of Scotland. We had a balanced | :01:11. | :01:16. | |
debate, we would have won. Such a sad missed opportunity. | :01:17. | :01:30. | |
Scotland is to stay in the United Kingdom. | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
Alex Salmond is to go as the country's First Minister. | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
Mr Salmond made the announcement of his resignation as First | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
Minister and as SNP leader late this afternoon, saying the party | :01:44. | :01:45. | |
In the wake of last night's vote, the question now is where does | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
The Prime Minister David Cameron has pledged to honour | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
the promises made for constitutional change but there is already | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
Over the next hour, we'll bring you the latest developments | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
in this changing story, but first Glenn Campbell reports on | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
He led his party, his government and his country to the point of decision | :02:08. | :02:21. | |
on independence. And within 12 hours of losing the referendum, Alex | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
Salmond decided it was time for someone else to take over at the top | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
of the SNP and as First Minister. I believe this is a new exciting | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
situation redolent with possibility. But in that situation, I think that | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
party, parliament and country would benefit from new leadership. He will | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
trigger an SNP leadership conference at the party conference in November | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
and will resign when a new leader has been elected. -- SNP leadership | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
vote. It has been the privilege of my life to serve as First Minister. | :02:58. | :03:03. | |
But this is a process that is not about me, the SNP or any other | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
political party, it's much more important than that. The position is | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
this. We lost the referendum vote, but Scotland can still carry the | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
political initiative. Scotland can still emerge as the real winner. For | :03:17. | :03:25. | |
me as leader, my time is nearly over. But for Scotland, the campaign | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
continues and the dream shall never die. No, 139,788. | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE It was this referendum result in | :03:38. | :03:46. | |
Fife which put a yes vote he and reach and Mr Salmond's lifelong | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
dream of referendum independence was locked away for at least a | :03:52. | :03:53. | |
generation. This SNP minister hoped he would | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
stay. We are so lucky to have the most popular First Minister we have | :03:59. | :04:01. | |
ever had. He remains the most popular politician in Scotland. | :04:02. | :04:06. | |
There is a job of work to do... You would want him to stay? Absolutely. | :04:07. | :04:14. | |
He is not tipping a successor, but Nicola Sturgeon is the favourite. | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
She said she owes him an immeasurable debt of gratitude. Alex | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
Salmond was elected leader in 1990, he quit a decade later having led | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
his party into opposition in the new Scottish parliament. There would be, | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
he said, no return to the front line. If nominated, I will decline. | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
If drafted, I will defer. If elected, I will resign. But in 2005, | :04:38. | :04:44. | |
he became leader for a second time following the resignation of John | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
Swinney. He took his party into power for the first time, he has | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
dominated politics in the decade since and tonight his rivals paid | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
tribute. Alex Salmond has been a formidable front line politician. | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
Whatever our disagreements, he has always spoken his mind and stood up | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
for what he believed in. If he thinks it is right, it is the right | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
decision. Party leaders always know when they should go, they don't | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
always admit it to themselves. David Cameron said: | :05:15. | :05:24. | |
Near parliament in Edinburgh, reflections from the public. A bit | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
of a shock, I thought he would take longer. I think Nicola Sturgeon is | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
becoming person in the party. When I heard he had resigned, I was very, | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
very sad but I think he will go down as one of the great Scots in | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
history. He is quite a divisive figure, but I think people who lead | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
often are. He has certainly led from the front. It has been an | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
extraordinary career and it is not over yet. But when Alex Salmond does | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
stand down, he will know his place in Scotland's story is secure. The | :05:59. | :06:12. | |
Queen has said: It as a result all of us throughout the United Kingdom | :06:13. | :06:16. | |
will respect. There will be strong feeling and contrasting emotions | :06:17. | :06:19. | |
among family, friends and neighbours. She goes on to say that | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
she has no doubt that these emotions will be tempered by understanding of | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
the feeling of others, and that we should remember that despite the | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
range of views expressed, we have in common and enduring love of | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
Scotland. That is one of the things that helps unite us all. | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
Our political editor Brian Taylor is live at Bute House tonight, | :06:38. | :06:39. | |
the official residence of the First Minister. | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
Those lines from the Queen, I don't think I have ever heard such strong | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
sentiment made public from Her Majesty. No, and at some length as | :06:50. | :06:58. | |
well. It's a statement from the palace, of course, urging unity on | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
the one hand, and offering the role of the Royal Family to encourage and | :07:02. | :07:08. | |
cajole towards that unity. Of all the organisations of state, the | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
Palace, the monarchy seems to me to have got the concept of devolution | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
most clearly. The Queen stayed neutral, although there was a hint | :07:18. | :07:22. | |
when she advised people to think carefully about the decision, but | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
this is a statement urging unity across the nations of the UK. You | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
are outside the First Minister's official residence, you know him | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
very well, you were there for his statement this afternoon. What was | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
the thinking behind his decision? Two things. I think that personally | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
and politically he has been leader for 20 years, with an interregnum of | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
four years, so a quarter of a century either at the top or | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
standing down from it. As he said himself, rather a good shift at the | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
coal face. Secondly, political strategy. Mr Salmond is aware that | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
this was a good result for independence, better than they have | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
achieved in the past, it was an energetic campaign that managed to | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
bring the people into play as well, but it was still a defeat. Mr | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
Salmond knows that he is therefore, regardless of those caveats, | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
associated with defeat. And he believes the momentum to drive | :08:24. | :08:25. | |
forward the change he thinks Scotland needs to take it from base | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
camp to the summit, as he described it himself, is now better than with | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
other individuals. There is a piper playing across the road here outside | :08:35. | :08:40. | |
Bute House. He says he is playing a lament for Alex Salmond. Thank you, | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
we will be joining you later in the programme to discuss Alex Salmond's | :08:45. | :08:45. | |
legacy. So, an historic vote - | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
55% to 45%. A record-breaking night with | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
a turnout of 85%, that's more than 3,600,000 | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
casting their votes. It was a long night at the end of | :08:55. | :09:09. | |
two years of campaigning. Yes, 114,148. | :09:10. | :09:11. | |
APPLAUSE No, 130 9000, 788. | :09:12. | :09:20. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Confirmation of the referendum | :09:21. | :09:32. | |
result in the early hours. 140,000 voters in Fife would take | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
the no support across the finishing line. Yes campaigners had already | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
accepted it. But even in defeat they want political change was | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
inevitable. Over 1 million people voting for independence, many of | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
those will have voted no to independence because they believe | :09:50. | :09:51. | |
that would deliver substantially more powers for the Scottish | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
parliament, there is a big appetite for substantial change. We are | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
emphatically not seeing tonight any kind of endorsement of the status | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
quo. In Westminster, the Prime Minister announced powers would be | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
devolved to all for UK nations to this tame -- to the same time scale | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
as that offered to Scotland. Lord Smith of Kelvin, who so successfully | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
led Glasgow's Commonwealth Games, has agreed to oversee the process to | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
take forward these devolution commitments, with powers over tax, | :10:21. | :10:27. | |
spending and welfare, all agreed by November, and draft legislation | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
published by January. Just as the people of Scotland will have more | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
power over their affairs, so it follows that the people of England, | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
Wales and Northern Ireland must have a bigger say over theirs. This | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
announcement followed a long night where it took several hours before | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
the picture became clear. The first declarations were in small council | :10:49. | :10:58. | |
areas, the Western Isles result. It meant there was still no | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
breakthrough for the yes side. The face of the campaign's chairman | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
appeared to say it all. On the streets of Glasgow, though, the | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
losing streak didn't dampen the party atmosphere. Hundreds crowded | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
into George Square to mark an important day in Scottish history. | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
The spirits here were nothing but high. Yes, 53,620. Dundee was the | :11:19. | :11:26. | |
first area to go yes. It was decisive and it made the race neck | :11:27. | :11:35. | |
and neck. Yes, 33,720. For a full five minutes, the glum faces were | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
gone, yes was ahead with 50.2%. It was a lead which would crumble, to | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
steal the final moment of the chief accounting officer's duties. In | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
response to the referendum question, should Scotland be an | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
independent country, we are in favour of no. | :11:54. | :11:54. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE But the story was far from over. | :11:55. | :12:04. | |
Concord between the Westminster parties of more devolution has | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
already come under threat. What you can't do, I think, is come up with a | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
solution that has loads of Scottish MPs hanging around, still nominally | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
representing Scotland, but not able to vote on any matters that affect | :12:20. | :12:22. | |
Scotland, but only on things that affect England, which is not their | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
area of representation. That is a problem that has got to be sorted | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
out. It had been a long night, but it will be some time yet before the | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
political future of Scotland becomes clear. | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
I'm joined now by the Finance Secretary John Swinney, who was | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
Did you know Alex Salmond was going to resign? I knew this morning when | :12:45. | :12:58. | |
he told me he was going to do that. Any inclination before that? No. | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
Alex was giving the referendum everything he had to give. We fought | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
a tremendous campaign. Alex gave the most astonishing contribution, | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
leading us into that referendum and delivering the result which I am | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
very proud of, 1.6 million people voting for independence in the | :13:19. | :13:21. | |
referendum yesterday. It wasn't enough to win, and I am hurting | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
about that today, but he got us to a great place in terms of the support | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
we attracted. In the aftermath of that, he thought about what was the | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
right thing to do and he decided today to step down. We respect him | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
for that decision, and I certainly want to make clear on behalf of his | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
parliamentary colleagues and the party membership how deeply profound | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
our gratitude is for the way he has led us over the last ten years. Was | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
it accepted within the inner circles of the party that if it was a no | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
vote, he would have to go? No, that was not in anyway discussed. Alex | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
has decided. He has led the party not once over ten years, he has done | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
it twice. I led the SNP for four years, it is not a key party, it is | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
immensely demanding. When he came to see me tell me that he was going to | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
be my successor, I said, look, are you sure? -- it is not aid the | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
party. It is an awesome task to become a party leader twice. Awesome | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
achievements are what you think of when you think of Alex Salmond. | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
Nobody thought we could become the government and we did. Nobody | :14:30. | :14:32. | |
thought you could win a majority in our Parliament and we did. Most | :14:33. | :14:35. | |
people thought we couldn't actually managed to hold a referendum and we | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
did, with an 85% turnout in a great democratic triumph. I think awesome | :14:41. | :14:47. | |
is the assessment I would put on the achievements of Alex Salmond. The | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
suggestion is that his going paves the way for another referendum in | :14:52. | :14:54. | |
the not too distant future, because it was his pledge that it wouldn't | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
happen for a generation, not the new leader, whoever he or she might be. | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
I said during the referendum campaign, and Alex and various other | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
members of the party said, Nicola Sturgeon as well, that the | :15:09. | :15:11. | |
referendum was a once in a generation opportunity and I don't | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
think anyone would expect the day after the referendum to say, oh, we | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
have suddenly changed our minds. It is a once in a generation issue. | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
What we are focused on now, we have made it clear on the First Minister | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
made it clear to the Prime Minister this morning, that we will work to | :15:27. | :15:29. | |
make sure the commitments that were made during the referendum of | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
additional powers for the Scottish Parliament, pledges made solemnly by | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
the three UK party leaders, which in my view have affected the outcome, | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
it persuaded some people who were going to vote yes to vote no | :15:43. | :15:46. | |
instead, because they were told to vote no and they will get more | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
powers... These have to be delivered in the timescale agreed. Thank you | :15:51. | :15:52. | |
very much. Lots of reaction in Westminster to | :15:53. | :16:00. | |
the resignation of the First Minister and the no vote. David | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
Porter, what is being said there tonight? An extraordinary 24-hour is | :16:05. | :16:10. | |
in UK and Scottish politics. This time yesterday, there were many | :16:11. | :16:12. | |
people in the building behind me who were not sure how the result would | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
go. They thought maybe the yes campaign would win, that the UK as | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
we know it would dissolve. And that David Cameron could well be calling | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
in the removal men, because he would have been the Prime Minister who | :16:25. | :16:33. | |
lost the union. Instead, it went far better for the no campaign than many | :16:34. | :16:36. | |
of them thought. And instead, it is the leader of the yes campaign, Alex | :16:37. | :16:38. | |
Salmond, tonight saying he is going to stand down. David Cameron came | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
out of this building at seven o'clock and gave a lengthy detailed | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
and quite comprehensive statement about how he wants to take | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
constitutional reform forward, more powers for Scotland but also more | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
powers for Wales and Northern Ireland, and crucially for England. | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
He also said he wants to link those, link them to reducing the power of | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
Scottish MPs, to address the so-called West Lothian question. | :17:05. | :17:07. | |
Tonight in Downing Street, they are perhaps sleeping a lot more soundly | :17:08. | :17:15. | |
than last night. Thank you, David. As we have seen over the last few | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
weeks, Scots have been engaged in this referendum debate in a way | :17:20. | :17:22. | |
seldom seen before. We have heard from politicians and campaigners, | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
but now a report on how the people of Scotland have reacted to the | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
result and the First Minister's resignation. Such was the passion in | :17:30. | :17:45. | |
this campaign, today was always going to be painful for the side | :17:46. | :17:54. | |
that lost. I cannot believe so many people voted against our country | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
being a country. Control of our own affairs, it was on a plate for us, | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
we should have had it. For many no supporters, it was an end to weeks | :18:05. | :18:14. | |
of anxiety. Obviously, hoping that we would win. It is more of a relief | :18:15. | :18:23. | |
situation, rather than, oh, dear, what is going to happen from now on? | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
In a city which voted yes, George Square in Glasgow was a rallying | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
point for supporters of independence. This morning, the | :18:34. | :18:35. | |
result was too much for some to bear. Decisions which were meant for | :18:36. | :18:43. | |
Scotland, to be made in Scotland... I am really disappointed, I | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
genuinely thought it would be a yes. Because it is a no, I hope that we | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
get more powers, and I hope that stuff happens. Then came the news | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
this afternoon that Alex Salmond was to resign. Really deeply saddened. I | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
knew it was going to happen, but for it to happen so quickly, just like | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
that, I am really, really ashamed that Scotland has pushed him to | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
that. Absolutely devastated. I love that man. He has retired once and | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
come back to help Scotland out, and I think he has maybe gone as far as | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
he can at the moment. He achieved far more than anybody expected. The | :19:24. | :19:30. | |
fact that Glasgow won... It has been a tough 12 hours for yes supporters, | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
but there is a feeling that something has been gained. The | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
winner is social democracy, no question about it. It is the | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
politics of the people, as opposed to the politics of the | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
parliamentarians. I think the political establishment of | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
Westminster has really come under severe scrutiny. In the end, the | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
silent majority made their voice heard, and this was their time to | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
celebrate. I think the right decision was made, and I think | :20:04. | :20:05. | |
Britain will never be the same again. I think we need to doff our | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
hats to Alex Salmond for transforming Britain for the better. | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
Today has brought a sense of relief for no voters, but the yes campaign | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
has lost a leader, and has been left wondering where this decision will | :20:21. | :20:34. | |
take them now. News is coming into us of some scuffles in George Square | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
in Glasgow. We have this report which has just come in come in. I | :20:40. | :20:48. | |
would say that for most of the day, it was fairly peaceful, occasionally | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
getting tense. About ten minutes ago, there was a change in | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
atmosphere, and you can see a lot more union flags having come out. I | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
would suggest there is a Loyalist element came into the square, a lot | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
of people started leaving. A short time ago, flares were fired, the | :21:05. | :21:12. | |
union flags over there, they charged right into the crowd. It got a bit | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
nasty for a while. Running scuffles. The police have now moved in and | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
separated the crowd. Definite change in atmosphere. As I say, it was a | :21:23. | :21:36. | |
very specific change in atmosphere. It happened very, very quickly. | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
There was a lot of cheering of rule Britannia, and then the flares went | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
off, and vehicles came in, and I would say these loyalist elements | :21:48. | :21:49. | |
came in from both sides of the square. We got a sense that it was | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
almost quite well planned. Most of the day, there had been the elements | :21:54. | :21:59. | |
of the yes campaign had been parked down here. But as I say, it happened | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
very, very quickly, a big change in atmosphere. But the police seem to | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
have separated both groups, and there seems to be an element of calm | :22:12. | :22:23. | |
now. I enjoy and now by the leader of the Scottish Labour Party, Johann | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
Lamont, and also by Ruth Davidson. We do not want to see those scenes? | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
Absolutely not. Right through this process, we have hoped that we could | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
have an open and honest conversation amongst Scots. It was a decision for | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
Scots, and we have come to it. But that feels more like a football | :22:43. | :22:45. | |
crowd gone wrong than anything else. I just hope that they can | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
restore order as soon as possible. There is no need for that, we have | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
had the biggest, broadest conversation in Scotland's political | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
history. We had a record turnout, the people of Scotland have had a | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
chance to have their say. We do not want seems like that on our streets. | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
Alex Salmond - did he have to go? I do not think he had to go. I was | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
surprised when I heard it, and then it kind of made sense. If he was | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
going to go, maybe this was a logical time. He has been driving | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
all through his life to the point where they was a referendum. Instead | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
of Scotland historically having been put into this union, has now | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
democratically affirmed that it wants to stay as part of a United | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
Kingdom. That feels like a pause in the Scottish story and you can | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
understand why he has decided to step back. I cannot imagine what it | :23:41. | :23:44. | |
is like to be First Minister, but it must be immense personal pressure on | :23:45. | :23:49. | |
him, and this seems a sensible time. You criticised the tone of his | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
speech when he was conceding defeat this morning. You said you should be | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
proud of his career and not allow the manner of its ending to dominate | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
his feeling. I felt, and I could almost forgive him, at a point where | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
he had got to the point where it was on the ballot paper, and so many | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
people had been involved, I felt there was something in the way that | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
he spoke that did not recognise the need for everybody to come | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
together, both sides. We all love Scotland and we want the best for | :24:20. | :24:22. | |
Scotland. I felt that he stepped back and spoke to his own people | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
about the journey for independence. But I think the journey for us in | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
the next period is to say, how do we find the things that we can agree on | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
in that Scottish Parliament, can we have the conversation about how we | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
use the powers we have got to make a difference to people's lives? I | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
think that was what drove a lot of the thinking and the conversation | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
over the last period. As he went he was accusing the unionist parties of | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
going back on the promise for more powers for Holyrood? I think he was | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
slightly mistaken in that. We published quite upfront what this | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
plan was, that was signed up. This date of March is not in that. You | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
can go back into your inbox, I am sure you got one as part of the | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
media. It was a very, very clear timetable. There would be | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
legislation on the books, no matter who came in as government in May of | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
next year. There would be legislation on the books, ready to | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
go. That has been reaffirmed by the three Westminster party leaders | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
today. That process is going to happen. Both of you, thank you. We | :25:32. | :25:42. | |
can go to Nick Robinson now. Is there any sense where you are that | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
Westminster is rolling back a little? I do not think they are | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
rolling back. I think the Prime Minister has reiterated the | :25:52. | :25:54. | |
promises. What is happening is that the politics of England is now being | :25:55. | :26:00. | |
fed into the process. It may well clash with the politics of | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
Scotland. Tory MPs in England are now saying, if the Barnett funding | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
formula is to be maintained, actually, we are not happy about | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
that. We do not think that money should go. If Scotland is to have | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
more powers for its parliament, we want more powers either for an | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
English parliament, or some other way of making sure that English | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
votes make English laws at Westminster. It does not necessarily | :26:25. | :26:31. | |
mean there is any intention to a band in the promises, but remember, | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
they have to get it through the Westminster parliament. There are | :26:36. | :26:38. | |
people there who did not sign up to this agreement, do not care about | :26:39. | :26:44. | |
the vow which was made on the front page of the Record, and they will | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
fight for their constituents, just as people in Scotland will fight for | :26:49. | :26:55. | |
their own. We can go to the First Minister's constituency now. Our | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
reporter is there. Alex Salmond has been MSP for | :27:00. | :27:06. | |
Aberdeenshire East since 2007. He has represented the Aberdeenshire | :27:07. | :27:07. | |
area since 1987 in Holyrood and | :27:08. | :27:14. | |
Westminster. He is standing down as SNP leader but staying on as MSP for | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
this area. A short time ago, I spoke to some of his constituents here in | :27:20. | :27:27. | |
Inverurie. I feel very sad to hear that. He has worked so tirelessly in | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
the campaign for independence and I had my him for that. I am sure | :27:32. | :27:38. | |
Nicola Sturgeon will step into his shoes, and again, an excellent | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
leader. I said to my wife, I thought he would perhaps resign in another | :27:43. | :27:50. | |
year's time. Very surprised. He has done a lot for Scotland, no question | :27:51. | :27:52. | |
about it. I am joined now by a friend and | :27:53. | :28:05. | |
colleague of Alex Salmond. Are you surprised? I think Alec always makes | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
decisions quickly. He is a great team builder and team player, and he | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
will be looking at what the decision which the people of Scotland have | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
made in huge numbers means for Scotland. And he will put that at | :28:20. | :28:22. | |
the forefront of the decision he has made. A lot of success since he took | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
over first as leader in the 1990s, but ultimately, failure wanted she | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
has fallen short of the objective he set himself, but he has achieved an | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
enormous amount of. 3.6 million people have voted for change. Both | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
the no campaign and the yes campaign represent change. That is almost | :28:43. | :28:47. | |
inconceivable, even a couple of months ago, it would not have been | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
thought that Alex Salmond would have got us there. But his capability of | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
drawing people in, building teams, has meant that he has delivered a | :28:56. | :29:00. | |
huge result for Scotland. Malcolm Bruce, you are the MP for Inverurie, | :29:01. | :29:08. | |
he was a particularly effective person to fight against? He took the | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
seat of us, yes. He became First Minister, and he secured a | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
referendum. But he has not taken his constituents with him, they voted | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
2-1 against everything he stood for, and I think that is a reason why he | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
had to go. I am not denying his success, but the problem is, he came | :29:29. | :29:31. | |
here as First Minister and never worked the seat, and I do not think | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
he connected with the constituents. He offered them a prospectus on | :29:36. | :29:41. | |
independence, which I believe was irresponsible, and they have | :29:42. | :29:45. | |
rejected that by 2-1. Both of you, thank you. The view from Alex | :29:46. | :29:50. | |
Salmond's Aberdeenshire East constituency tonight. | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
Independence may be off the agenda for years to come, | :29:55. | :29:57. | |
but the way Scotland is governed is bound to change. | :29:58. | :30:00. | |
Ahead of the referendum, the Better Together campaign said | :30:01. | :30:02. | |
a no vote would mean fresh powers for Holyrood. | :30:03. | :30:04. | |
And the SNP say they'll press them hard to deliver on that commitment. | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
Our correspondent David Henderson can tell us more. | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
Before voters went into the polling stations, it was | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
made clear to them that even if they voted no, there would still be more | :30:15. | :30:18. | |
So last night's decision fires the starting gun for what's bound | :30:19. | :30:23. | |
to be an intense debate on what those new powers will be. | :30:24. | :30:26. | |
By November, plans will be published setting out what's on offer. | :30:27. | :30:34. | |
By January next year, they should be draft legislation ready | :30:35. | :30:36. | |
But with a general election due in May next year, these proposals won't | :30:37. | :30:44. | |
have the force of law until they're approved by a new batch of MPs. | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
The man appointed to oversee the process is Lord Smith of Kelvin. | :30:49. | :30:59. | |
When David Cameron spoke to me last week, I said, are your people | :31:00. | :31:07. | |
sincere across the UK are little part is about doing something here? | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
He said yes. I am taking that at face value. The Scottish Parliament | :31:12. | :31:21. | |
has already been given new powers to control speed limits and | :31:22. | :31:22. | |
drink-driving. In April 2016, the Scottish | :31:23. | :31:25. | |
government will also be able to borrow up to ?5 billion | :31:26. | :31:28. | |
and vary income tax Holyrood has become more powerful | :31:29. | :31:45. | |
over time. But those powers have come step-by-step, not in one great | :31:46. | :31:51. | |
leap. And the UK's rival parties have rival visions of what they want | :31:52. | :31:55. | |
it to do. Labour wants to give this Parliament the power to vary income | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
tax by 15p in the pound, but they are set to veto any plans which | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
would prevent funds being redistributed around the UK. | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
Anything that stops the justification for the needs -based | :32:11. | :32:13. | |
payments to Scotland through the block, that would be resisted. | :32:14. | :32:17. | |
Anything that suggests national insurance should come to Scotland, | :32:18. | :32:23. | |
or all income tax comes to Scotland, because Labour wants to keep the | :32:24. | :32:28. | |
different risks. The Conservatives want to end the Treasury's control | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
over income tax rates and tax bands. They would make Holyrood accountable | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
for 40% of the money it spends. But some think that should come at a | :32:39. | :32:44. | |
price. What you can't do, I think, is come up with a solution that has | :32:45. | :32:51. | |
loads of Scottish MPs hanging around still nominally representing | :32:52. | :32:54. | |
Scotland, but unable really to vote on any matters that affect Scotland, | :32:55. | :32:59. | |
but only on things that affect England, which is not their area of | :33:00. | :33:04. | |
representation. The Liberal Democrats want to see a new dawn for | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
British politics, giving Scotland power over income tax, inheritance | :33:09. | :33:13. | |
and capital gains tax. They have also touted scrapping the act of | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
union between Scotland and England in favour of a federal structure. | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
But the SNP remains sceptical. The crucial point that comes out of the | :33:24. | :33:27. | |
referendum is those powers must be delivered because they were solemnly | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
offered in a swift and quick timescale, a reliable timescale, by | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
the UK parties. That has to be fulfilled. So, lots of expectation | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
and pressure to deliver a deal. The main UK parties say they already | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
have broad areas of agreement about what additional powers will come to | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
Holyrood. It's clear, though, that some tough horse trading lies ahead | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
and the exact plan remains unclear. And this whole issue will not be | :33:56. | :33:58. | |
settled until next year at the earliest. | :33:59. | :34:06. | |
I am joined by Professor John Curtice from Strathclyde University. | :34:07. | :34:12. | |
What impact do you think Alex Salmond's resignation will have on | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
the negotiations? It has made it more complicated. A crucial decision | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
the SNP now needs to take, having lost the referendum, is does it or | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
does it not get involved in the talks about more devolution? They | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
are meant to be over by the end of November. The difficulty now added | :34:31. | :34:35. | |
to this is that now the SNP will be involved in a leadership election | :34:36. | :34:39. | |
for most of that period, a leadership election in which what | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
stance the party should take towards more devolution now it has lost the | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
referendum could well be a subject of dispute and difference between | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
the prospective candidates. Given that backdrop, I am not entirely | :34:51. | :34:54. | |
clear that the SNP are either themselves going to be in a position | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
to meet the rapid proposed timetable for coming to some agreement about | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
more devolution within the time frame the Prime Minister reiterated | :35:04. | :35:07. | |
this morning. So things are getting even more complicated. Thank you. | :35:08. | :35:12. | |
Let's go back to normal service for a little while, and find out what | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
the weather has in store on this dramatic day, hopefully it is calm. | :35:17. | :35:22. | |
A cooler and fresher feel for most of us, but at least some brightness | :35:23. | :35:28. | |
on the cards, which is more than most of us had today. A lot of cloud | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
and outbreaks of patchy rain, which will continue this evening. This | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
area of rain is sinking south and eastwards across the country, never | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
amounting to much. Behind it, clearer skies filtering into the | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
north-west, allowing it to become Chile in the Glens, six or seven | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
Celsius, more typically 11-13 further south. Quite misty and murky | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
towards the East Coast. In the weekend, a weak cold front that has | :35:55. | :35:58. | |
been bringing the outbreaks of rain. It takes its time to clear | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
south-east Scotland, but high pressure is building in from the | :36:02. | :36:07. | |
west and with it a fresher feel to things. Tomorrow, still some | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
outbreaks of rain in Fife and parts of the Central Belt, the Lothians | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
and the Borders. Across the northern half of the country, a dry and | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
bright start with some early morning sunshine. Come the afternoon, a bit | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
of a reversal. Central and southern parts will see the cloud thinning | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
and breaking to allow sunshine. Further north, the cloud will | :36:29. | :36:30. | |
increase with outbreaks of showery rain. We will finally cleared Mr | :36:31. | :36:36. | |
Ness and murkiness which has been plaguing the east coast, but a brisk | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
north-westerly wind over the Northern Ireland is tomorrow. -- the | :36:40. | :36:45. | |
Northern Isles tomorrow. Strong north-westerly winds. In the north, | :36:46. | :36:51. | |
starting bright, clouding over with patchy rain for the afternoon. | :36:52. | :36:55. | |
Across central and southern ranges, you will start cloudy with patchy | :36:56. | :37:00. | |
rain and it improves for the afternoon. Quite a cold feel with | :37:01. | :37:05. | |
the brisk winds. The afternoon and evening will end with some late | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
sunshine, but still showers coming in from the north-west. Sunday, high | :37:10. | :37:14. | |
pressure really starts to establish itself across Scotland. So it will | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
settle us down and we will see decent sunshine, a lot of dry | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
weather but still a fresh feel, quite a crisp day. Some good spells | :37:24. | :37:28. | |
of sunshine, especially for western, central and southern Scotland. A bit | :37:29. | :37:32. | |
more cloud the further north you go, but temperatures or most of us in | :37:33. | :37:35. | |
the mid-to-high teens, a bit cooler around the northern coasts. Monday, | :37:36. | :37:49. | |
a bit of a change as a weather front comes into the Northwest, bringing | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
rain to the northern and western islands, but on the whole still a | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
lot of dry and bright weather. A cooler feel for the weekend, with | :37:56. | :37:57. | |
some brightness around. Earlier, we saw some scuffles in George Square. | :37:58. | :38:01. | |
Let's get an update from Cameron. What is the situation? Still very | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
tense. We have had to pull out, there was definitely a feeling that | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
we were being targeted at one point. Not pleasant in there. Both sides | :38:13. | :38:15. | |
throwing things, smoke bombs and flares at one point. A few scuffles, | :38:16. | :38:25. | |
the police trying to keep people apart. Helicopters overhead. One | :38:26. | :38:33. | |
side singing, Flower of Scotland, the other singing rule Britannia, | :38:34. | :38:39. | |
but still very tense here. Let's go back to the events of last night. | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
The independence campaign managed to win over 1.6 million votes. But just | :38:44. | :38:50. | |
four of the 32 local authority areas, Glasgow, Dundee, West | :38:51. | :38:53. | |
Dunbartonshire and North Lanarkshire. What is the rest of | :38:54. | :38:57. | |
Scotland making of the relatively comfortable victory for Better | :38:58. | :39:00. | |
Together? On the banks of the River Tay, Angela. What is the reaction? | :39:01. | :39:09. | |
-- Andrew. Tonight over in Dundee, on the streets and houses, in the | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
bars and cafes, much of the talk will be about the outcome of this | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
referendum. Independence campaigners dubbed Dundee Yes Cap max it it, and | :39:18. | :39:24. | |
Dundee delivered with a majority of 13,000. -- Yes City. The success of | :39:25. | :39:34. | |
the SNP in recent years in encroaching into a traditional | :39:35. | :39:36. | |
Labour heartland had foreshadowed that result. Despite that, Dundee | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
won't be seeing independence because most people in Scotland say they | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
don't want it. So in the streets in there today I met people who were | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
disappointed, depressed, even dejected, but the yes campaign in | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
Dundee are unbowed. They say the referendum has brought together | :39:55. | :39:57. | |
various political groupings. They claim that has created real momentum | :39:58. | :40:02. | |
for change. We have been working together with one aim in mind. We | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
may not agree with each other on individual policies, but we are all | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
working on the best for Scotland. We work together to make Dundee a | :40:11. | :40:14. | |
resounding vote for yes and we are proud of our city. There may be | :40:15. | :40:17. | |
frustration and disappointment but we are proud of what we have | :40:18. | :40:20. | |
achieved in Dundee, and we are delighted Glasgow came the same way. | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
That is how it's looking in Dundee. What about other parts of Scotland? | :40:27. | :40:30. | |
Our reporters have been in Dumfries, Orkney and Inverness. The Inverness | :40:31. | :40:37. | |
statue of Flora MacDonald gazes westwards, wondering what happened | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
to the yes vote in the Highlands when their campaign had seemed so | :40:42. | :40:47. | |
vocal, so well organised. As one Better Together campaigner put it to | :40:48. | :40:51. | |
me, it was finally the no vote turning out, having been reluctant, | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
fearful even, during the campaign of mailing their colours to the mast. I | :40:56. | :41:02. | |
was hoping it would just be the quiet people that kept themselves to | :41:03. | :41:07. | |
themselves and then went and did the deed. Yes, absolutely delighted. On | :41:08. | :41:14. | |
Orkney, there was a clear vote to remain within the union. It was the | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
highest percentage in favour of no anywhere in Scotland, just over 67%. | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
Even here, though, there is a difference of opinion over last | :41:24. | :41:26. | |
night's result and a willingness to look towards the future. I was | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
really getting worried, I thought, oh my gosh, is it going to go yes? | :41:32. | :41:40. | |
Personally very disappointed that the yes campaign didn't win, because | :41:41. | :41:43. | |
in many ways we had the most positive arguments. But if there is | :41:44. | :41:49. | |
something to look forward to, it's that all parties seem to agree that | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
we need to reform the political system, and I think we have to make | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
sure the politicians do that meaningfully. Re-conciliation is the | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
most important thing. I do fear that it may have created a rift and it | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
needs to be healed. Along with the Scottish Borders, Dumfries and | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
Galloway the lid of the most emphatic rejection of independence, | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
a 2-1 vote against. -- delivered the most emphatic rejection. A higher | :42:18. | :42:20. | |
than average proportion of English born voters and elderly voters, and | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
of course the cap back border influence. The vote means Scotland | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
and England will remain united, but what about divisions on the ground? | :42:30. | :42:34. | |
And in the future? We need a period of reflection. And I think we need | :42:35. | :42:41. | |
to learn much more from the Westminster government about what is | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
on the table in terms of devolution. It's going to be a wake-up call to | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
the Westminster government to help not only Scotland, which they | :42:50. | :42:53. | |
promised to do years ago and have never quite delivered, but to help | :42:54. | :42:56. | |
northern England and Wales and Northern Ireland. I am particularly | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
delighted because there have been promised is from the Westminster | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
government to improve what we have got at the moment. -- there have | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
been promises. That has gone a long way to increase the majority. All | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
the promises they have made us, we will have to wait and see, but I | :43:14. | :43:20. | |
feel down today. Yet Scotland knew they were underdogs in the south and | :43:21. | :43:23. | |
won't have been surprised to lose the vote here. -- Yes Scotland. But | :43:24. | :43:29. | |
given the social media campaign, the size of the defeat will hurt. | :43:30. | :43:35. | |
The thing I found fascinating to be wandering around Dundee city | :43:36. | :43:41. | |
centre, what was already beginning to bring yes and no voters together, | :43:42. | :43:45. | |
that was the prospect of further powers, more powers for the Scottish | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
parliament. The yes and no voters I spoke to agree that was necessary | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
and should happen, and it's that next stage in this debate that they | :43:54. | :43:56. | |
are going to be watching very closely over the coming weeks and | :43:57. | :43:57. | |
months. It was the Kingdom of Fife that | :43:58. | :44:12. | |
finally pushed the no vote over the finishing line in the small hours. | :44:13. | :44:14. | |
Alison Morgan reports. It is not the first time Fife has | :44:15. | :44:26. | |
played a significant role in Scotland's political history. This | :44:27. | :44:29. | |
was where Alex Salmond got his majority in 2011. In 2014, it was | :44:30. | :44:35. | |
where Scotland said no. It has got everything from agriculture, | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
high-tech, traditional mining areas. It is so different to other areas. | :44:40. | :44:46. | |
It is Scotland in miniature. So, how did this microcosm of Scotland view | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
the no result? I was completely taken aback that there has been a no | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
vote here. Absolutely devastated, really. I was a no vote myself. And | :44:56. | :45:04. | |
I have got a 4 -year-old son. It is not of about our generation, it is | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
about the younger ones. I am not very happy about it, to be honest. | :45:10. | :45:16. | |
Kirkcaldy is known as the birthplace of the economist Adam Smith, but how | :45:17. | :45:19. | |
influential was another economist and local boy, the former Prime | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
Minister Gordon Brown, in making sure of the no vote here in Fife? At | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
last, the world is hearing the voices of the real people of | :45:30. | :45:37. | |
Scotland. The silent majority will be silent no more. He does have a | :45:38. | :45:45. | |
lot of support, and I think he may be swung it at the last minute for | :45:46. | :45:49. | |
the no campaign. A big influence, I think, yes. I do not know if he was | :45:50. | :45:55. | |
the most popular Prime Minister, but he is local and he seemed to come | :45:56. | :46:00. | |
across well, passionate. But there are other opinions on why people | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
here in Fife voted the way they did. People were getting confused on what | :46:06. | :46:08. | |
they were voting for. They were not voting for SNP, that is where we got | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
lost. I think it has been money, mostly. I think people have been | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
frightened about pensions and this and that. It is such a brave | :46:19. | :46:23. | |
decision to be made, and I do not think the promises were good enough. | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
It could have just been the last-minute jitters, they could not | :46:28. | :46:30. | |
go for the big change, the uncertainty. One thing IS certain - | :46:31. | :46:37. | |
the waiting for the outcome of the referendum is over. | :46:38. | :46:41. | |
But a different story in Scotland's biggest city, Glasgow. | :46:42. | :46:43. | |
The people there backed independence. | :46:44. | :46:46. | |
194,000 of them saying yes, with a turnout of 75%. | :46:47. | :46:48. | |
Glasgow is a Scottish city like no other. Heavy traditional industry | :46:49. | :47:02. | |
welding home-workers together in solidarity. This historically shaped | :47:03. | :47:05. | |
politics. It is true Labour heartland. Once upon a time... Yes, | :47:06. | :47:18. | |
194,000. Now, Glasgow is a city for independence. You cannot guarantee | :47:19. | :47:25. | |
that Glasgow will do what every other place in Scotland does. But in | :47:26. | :47:30. | |
recent years Lascelles has had a declining vote for the Labour Party. | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
The city council seems to be bucking that trend. The independence | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
movement has had some success in Glasgow over the years, but never | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
prolonged. Margo MacDonald, and John Mason, 35 years later, both lost | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
their SNP seats at the next election. Today's result marks a | :47:50. | :47:53. | |
significant change, according to some. Scotland's biggest city wants | :47:54. | :47:59. | |
change, that is what we take from this. We want to attack poverty and | :48:00. | :48:05. | |
low pay. I am proud of everyone who voted for independence, particularly | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
Glasgow. The Labour Party had better open its ears, because it is | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
finished in Glasgow. Those who have held power in Glasgow for Labour say | :48:15. | :48:19. | |
the city will not only return to the party, but shape its rise back into | :48:20. | :48:26. | |
power. I expect Glaswegians to give the Labour Party a bloody nose, and | :48:27. | :48:30. | |
they did. I would expect them now to lead the Labour revival. I would | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
expect them to start working for that socially just society, and they | :48:37. | :48:40. | |
will do that by returning Labour at the next general election. The site | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
of heavy industry, now standing as a tourist attraction, perhaps best | :48:46. | :48:51. | |
illustrates the huge change which is consuming Glasgow for the last three | :48:52. | :48:58. | |
or four decades. What remains to be seen is whether these latest results | :48:59. | :49:00. | |
will usher in a new type of politics across the city. | :49:01. | :49:03. | |
So how does Scotland come together after a long and robust debate? | :49:04. | :49:06. | |
Services are planned over the weekend to bring | :49:07. | :49:08. | |
One of those involves the Moderator of the General Assembly | :49:09. | :49:12. | |
The Right Reverend John Chalmers joins me now. | :49:13. | :49:20. | |
Do you really think such services are necessary? Well, I think they | :49:21. | :49:26. | |
are going to help. I am really pleased that today began with | :49:27. | :49:29. | |
restraint, both of the First Minister and Alistair Darling I | :49:30. | :49:32. | |
think set the right tone. And I think that we can help on Sunday | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
when we have all of the party leaders together, committing to some | :49:37. | :49:39. | |
unity of purpose for Scotland going forward. I asked the question, do we | :49:40. | :49:45. | |
really need it, but we have seen footage tonight of unrest in the | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
centre of our biggest city... As you know, there has been at the fringe | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
of the campaign some unrest, and I think it was perhaps predictable | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
that there might be, on the fringe, some unrest today. But as I said | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
already, we began the day with restraint and I hope we can end it | :50:07. | :50:10. | |
with restraint. I think the right note has been set between those who | :50:11. | :50:16. | |
have won and those who feel they have lost, and I think we can start | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
to repair the damage even further this weekend. And the impact of the | :50:21. | :50:27. | |
Queen's words? I think she has demonstrated a confidence in the | :50:28. | :50:30. | |
Scottish people to be able to set aside their differences. Yesterday, | :50:31. | :50:34. | |
they were on opposite sides of the same coin. Today, they are the same | :50:35. | :50:40. | |
coin. We can heal, and we can move forward together. That is my great | :50:41. | :50:45. | |
hope and prayer. Moderator, thank you for coming along tonight. | :50:46. | :50:54. | |
The major news this afternoon is that Alex Salmond has resigned as | :50:55. | :50:59. | |
First Minister. His career spanned more than 40 years. He was a member | :51:00. | :51:05. | |
of the Federation of student nationalists at St Andrews | :51:06. | :51:08. | |
University, going right up to the present day. This report from Andrew | :51:09. | :51:10. | |
Kerr. This young lad from Linlithgow | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
became a young man with a plan. Alexander Elliot Anderson Salmond | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
signed up to the Scottish National A student with a keen sense | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
of Scottish history, he became a man with a key role | :51:21. | :51:25. | |
in Scotland's modern story. A rising star in the party, he ended | :51:26. | :51:30. | |
up being expelled for being part of In 1987, he was on his way to | :51:31. | :51:34. | |
Westminster. In 1988, Nigel Lawson's | :51:35. | :51:56. | |
budget was interrupted. I beg to move that Mr Salmond be | :51:57. | :51:58. | |
suspended from the service The stunt paved the way | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
for a successful leadership bid Years of managing the party | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
through opposition then followed. Scottish politics came to the fore | :52:06. | :52:21. | |
at Westminster, with a devolution referendum in 1997. Political rivals | :52:22. | :52:27. | |
joined sides, and it was a good result for Alex Salmond, a prophetic | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
meant for Westminster. They had better sit up and take notice, | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
something is changing in Scotland. Two years later, he led the SNP into | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
the first Scottish elections. The voters did not buy a penny for | :52:42. | :52:44. | |
Scotland. Disappointment for the SNP. | :52:45. | :52:47. | |
After a lacklustre time, the leader stepped down in 2000. | :52:48. | :52:50. | |
I really, I can't begin to explain how much I enjoy this aspect, | :52:51. | :52:55. | |
The men in grey kilts, a popular phrase at the time, | :52:56. | :53:01. | |
In an Aberdeen hotel in July 2004, Mr Salmond announced he was | :53:02. | :53:07. | |
Today, I am launching my candidacy to be the First Minister of | :53:08. | :53:17. | |
Scotland. He had an inkling that Labour were | :53:18. | :53:18. | |
in decline, that there would be Fast forward to May 2007, | :53:19. | :53:21. | |
and a win by one seat. Mr Salmond addressed | :53:22. | :53:39. | |
the delighted party faithful. The trials and tribulations of being | :53:40. | :53:58. | |
in power then followed. The release of the Lockerbie bomber caused | :53:59. | :53:59. | |
international outrage. On the domestic front, | :54:00. | :54:02. | |
the national conversation sowed Scotland liked what it saw in the | :54:03. | :54:04. | |
main and gave the SNP another chance The crowning glory, at the time, | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
for the master strategist. This is not just a victory for a | :54:10. | :54:24. | |
single political party, I believe it is a victory for a society, a people | :54:25. | :54:26. | |
and a nation. A majority government meant | :54:27. | :54:28. | |
a referendum. The Edinburgh agreement | :54:29. | :54:30. | |
in autumn 2012 sealed the deal. London and Edinburgh would abide | :54:31. | :54:33. | |
by the result. The very substantial gain that | :54:34. | :54:43. | |
Scotland now has is that we have an agreed process to hold this | :54:44. | :54:46. | |
referendum. I am honoured to announce that on Thursday the 18th | :54:47. | :54:52. | |
of September 2014, we will hold Scotland's referendum, a historic | :54:53. | :54:56. | |
day, when the people will decide Scotland's future. | :54:57. | :54:57. | |
A dream come true or too much too soon? | :54:58. | :55:00. | |
Now with the authority of the Scottish government behind him, he | :55:01. | :55:02. | |
This referendum is about the future of Scotland, and the future of | :55:03. | :55:13. | |
Scotland should be in the hands of the people of Scotland. That young | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
man with a plan set a date of destiny for the people of Scotland. | :55:20. | :55:24. | |
It was not to be. Now, he says his time is nearly over. But the | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
campaign continues. He says he hopes that youthful dream will never die. | :55:29. | :55:41. | |
Did he have to go now? Some of his friends and colleagues tried to | :55:42. | :55:44. | |
persuade him to stay. I think firstly he has a personal feeling | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
that he has done the job for rather a long time, 20 years as leader, in | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
two stints of the longest serving First Minister, not a bad shift, as | :55:53. | :55:58. | |
he says himself, at the coal face. Secondly, there is a pragmatic | :55:59. | :56:02. | |
consideration, which is that yes, this was an amazing exercise in | :56:03. | :56:05. | |
democracy, but the sheer numbers tell you that the independence cause | :56:06. | :56:12. | |
lost, it lost the day. So Mr Salmond is associated with a defeat, and | :56:13. | :56:16. | |
perhaps tactically, he believes it is better to have another person | :56:17. | :56:20. | |
stepped in, and that person will be Nicola Sturgeon, thereby advancing | :56:21. | :56:23. | |
the cause of independence. He has been described today as one of, or | :56:24. | :56:31. | |
the best, politician of his generation, he was a formidable | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
campaigner? Was and is. An exceptionally able individual. I | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
have known him for rather a long time, we were at university | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
together. That person of him at university is quite hideous, given | :56:45. | :56:48. | |
that he is exactly nine days older than me. He was always a committed | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
and dedicated politician, from those university days, right up to today. | :56:53. | :56:59. | |
Is it that certain that the successor will be Nicola Sturgeon? | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
The bookies have certainly installed her as the clear favourite. I think | :57:04. | :57:08. | |
those in the party who may consider standing against her will know that | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
that is the case, and if they do, I do not fancy their chances in a | :57:14. | :57:18. | |
leadership contest. Nicola Sturgeon has a hard act to follow, I think | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
formidable is the right word for Alex Salmond, feared and admired in | :57:23. | :57:26. | |
equal measure. It will be for his successor to try and make the most | :57:27. | :57:35. | |
out of the settlement. It now seems that the country is somewhat divided | :57:36. | :57:38. | |
on its future. The First Minister is stepping down. We are told more | :57:39. | :57:42. | |
powers will come to the Scottish Parliament. The Queen says the | :57:43. | :57:46. | |
result will be the spectator throughout the United Kingdom. From | :57:47. | :57:50. | |
all of us on Reporting Scotland, after an extraordinary day, I hope | :57:51. | :57:54. | |
you have enjoyed our coverage, for now, goodbye. I believe that this is | :57:55. | :58:01. | |
a new, exciting situation, which is redolent with possibility. But in | :58:02. | :58:08. | |
that situation, I think the party, Parliament and country would benefit | :58:09. | :58:09. | |
from new leadership. # You promised me something to | :58:10. | :59:02. | |
believe in. | :59:03. | :59:07. |