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But for Scotland, the campaign continues. The dream shall never

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die. The First Minister Alex Salmond has

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resigned after losing the referendum vote. For me, my time as leader is

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nearly over. But for Scotland, the campaign continues and the dream

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shall never die. Mr Salmond says he will stand down after the SNP

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conference. We will assess what it means for the country and we will

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look back at his career. The shop decision came as the no campaign

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celebrated victory. -- shock decision. The three pro-union

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parties have made clear commitments on further powers for the Scottish

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parliament. We will ensure that those commitments are honoured in

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full. We would be looking back on an extraordinary night, as independence

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supporters continue to party with defiance. We will assess how this

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huge turnout affects the future of all of Scotland. We had a balanced

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debate, we would have won. Such a sad missed opportunity.

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Scotland is to stay in the United Kingdom.

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Alex Salmond is to go as the country's First Minister.

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Mr Salmond made the announcement of his resignation as First

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Minister and as SNP leader late this afternoon, saying the party

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In the wake of last night's vote, the question now is where does

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The Prime Minister David Cameron has pledged to honour

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the promises made for constitutional change but there is already

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Over the next hour, we'll bring you the latest developments

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in this changing story, but first Glenn Campbell reports on

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He led his party, his government and his country to the point of decision

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on independence. And within 12 hours of losing the referendum, Alex

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Salmond decided it was time for someone else to take over at the top

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of the SNP and as First Minister. I believe this is a new exciting

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situation redolent with possibility. But in that situation, I think that

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party, parliament and country would benefit from new leadership. He will

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trigger an SNP leadership conference at the party conference in November

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and will resign when a new leader has been elected. -- SNP leadership

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vote. It has been the privilege of my life to serve as First Minister.

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But this is a process that is not about me, the SNP or any other

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political party, it's much more important than that. The position is

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this. We lost the referendum vote, but Scotland can still carry the

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political initiative. Scotland can still emerge as the real winner. For

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me as leader, my time is nearly over. But for Scotland, the campaign

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continues and the dream shall never die. No, 139,788.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE It was this referendum result in

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Fife which put a yes vote he and reach and Mr Salmond's lifelong

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dream of referendum independence was locked away for at least a

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generation. This SNP minister hoped he would

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stay. We are so lucky to have the most popular First Minister we have

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ever had. He remains the most popular politician in Scotland.

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There is a job of work to do... You would want him to stay? Absolutely.

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He is not tipping a successor, but Nicola Sturgeon is the favourite.

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She said she owes him an immeasurable debt of gratitude. Alex

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Salmond was elected leader in 1990, he quit a decade later having led

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his party into opposition in the new Scottish parliament. There would be,

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he said, no return to the front line. If nominated, I will decline.

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If drafted, I will defer. If elected, I will resign. But in 2005,

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he became leader for a second time following the resignation of John

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Swinney. He took his party into power for the first time, he has

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dominated politics in the decade since and tonight his rivals paid

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tribute. Alex Salmond has been a formidable front line politician.

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Whatever our disagreements, he has always spoken his mind and stood up

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for what he believed in. If he thinks it is right, it is the right

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decision. Party leaders always know when they should go, they don't

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always admit it to themselves. David Cameron said:

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Near parliament in Edinburgh, reflections from the public. A bit

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of a shock, I thought he would take longer. I think Nicola Sturgeon is

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becoming person in the party. When I heard he had resigned, I was very,

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very sad but I think he will go down as one of the great Scots in

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history. He is quite a divisive figure, but I think people who lead

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often are. He has certainly led from the front. It has been an

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extraordinary career and it is not over yet. But when Alex Salmond does

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stand down, he will know his place in Scotland's story is secure. The

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Queen has said: It as a result all of us throughout the United Kingdom

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will respect. There will be strong feeling and contrasting emotions

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among family, friends and neighbours. She goes on to say that

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she has no doubt that these emotions will be tempered by understanding of

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the feeling of others, and that we should remember that despite the

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range of views expressed, we have in common and enduring love of

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Scotland. That is one of the things that helps unite us all.

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Our political editor Brian Taylor is live at Bute House tonight,

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the official residence of the First Minister.

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Those lines from the Queen, I don't think I have ever heard such strong

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sentiment made public from Her Majesty. No, and at some length as

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well. It's a statement from the palace, of course, urging unity on

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the one hand, and offering the role of the Royal Family to encourage and

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cajole towards that unity. Of all the organisations of state, the

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Palace, the monarchy seems to me to have got the concept of devolution

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most clearly. The Queen stayed neutral, although there was a hint

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when she advised people to think carefully about the decision, but

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this is a statement urging unity across the nations of the UK. You

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are outside the First Minister's official residence, you know him

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very well, you were there for his statement this afternoon. What was

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the thinking behind his decision? Two things. I think that personally

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and politically he has been leader for 20 years, with an interregnum of

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four years, so a quarter of a century either at the top or

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standing down from it. As he said himself, rather a good shift at the

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coal face. Secondly, political strategy. Mr Salmond is aware that

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this was a good result for independence, better than they have

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achieved in the past, it was an energetic campaign that managed to

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bring the people into play as well, but it was still a defeat. Mr

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Salmond knows that he is therefore, regardless of those caveats,

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associated with defeat. And he believes the momentum to drive

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forward the change he thinks Scotland needs to take it from base

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camp to the summit, as he described it himself, is now better than with

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other individuals. There is a piper playing across the road here outside

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Bute House. He says he is playing a lament for Alex Salmond. Thank you,

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we will be joining you later in the programme to discuss Alex Salmond's

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legacy. So, an historic vote -

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55% to 45%. A record-breaking night with

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a turnout of 85%, that's more than 3,600,000

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casting their votes. It was a long night at the end of

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two years of campaigning. Yes, 114,148.

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APPLAUSE No, 130 9000, 788.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Confirmation of the referendum

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result in the early hours. 140,000 voters in Fife would take

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the no support across the finishing line. Yes campaigners had already

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accepted it. But even in defeat they want political change was

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inevitable. Over 1 million people voting for independence, many of

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those will have voted no to independence because they believe

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that would deliver substantially more powers for the Scottish

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parliament, there is a big appetite for substantial change. We are

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emphatically not seeing tonight any kind of endorsement of the status

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quo. In Westminster, the Prime Minister announced powers would be

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devolved to all for UK nations to this tame -- to the same time scale

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as that offered to Scotland. Lord Smith of Kelvin, who so successfully

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led Glasgow's Commonwealth Games, has agreed to oversee the process to

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take forward these devolution commitments, with powers over tax,

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spending and welfare, all agreed by November, and draft legislation

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published by January. Just as the people of Scotland will have more

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power over their affairs, so it follows that the people of England,

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Wales and Northern Ireland must have a bigger say over theirs. This

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announcement followed a long night where it took several hours before

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the picture became clear. The first declarations were in small council

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areas, the Western Isles result. It meant there was still no

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breakthrough for the yes side. The face of the campaign's chairman

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appeared to say it all. On the streets of Glasgow, though, the

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losing streak didn't dampen the party atmosphere. Hundreds crowded

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into George Square to mark an important day in Scottish history.

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The spirits here were nothing but high. Yes, 53,620. Dundee was the

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first area to go yes. It was decisive and it made the race neck

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and neck. Yes, 33,720. For a full five minutes, the glum faces were

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gone, yes was ahead with 50.2%. It was a lead which would crumble, to

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steal the final moment of the chief accounting officer's duties. In

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response to the referendum question, should Scotland be an

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independent country, we are in favour of no.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE But the story was far from over.

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Concord between the Westminster parties of more devolution has

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already come under threat. What you can't do, I think, is come up with a

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solution that has loads of Scottish MPs hanging around, still nominally

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representing Scotland, but not able to vote on any matters that affect

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Scotland, but only on things that affect England, which is not their

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area of representation. That is a problem that has got to be sorted

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out. It had been a long night, but it will be some time yet before the

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political future of Scotland becomes clear.

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I'm joined now by the Finance Secretary John Swinney, who was

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Did you know Alex Salmond was going to resign? I knew this morning when

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he told me he was going to do that. Any inclination before that? No.

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Alex was giving the referendum everything he had to give. We fought

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a tremendous campaign. Alex gave the most astonishing contribution,

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leading us into that referendum and delivering the result which I am

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very proud of, 1.6 million people voting for independence in the

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referendum yesterday. It wasn't enough to win, and I am hurting

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about that today, but he got us to a great place in terms of the support

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we attracted. In the aftermath of that, he thought about what was the

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right thing to do and he decided today to step down. We respect him

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for that decision, and I certainly want to make clear on behalf of his

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parliamentary colleagues and the party membership how deeply profound

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our gratitude is for the way he has led us over the last ten years. Was

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it accepted within the inner circles of the party that if it was a no

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vote, he would have to go? No, that was not in anyway discussed. Alex

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has decided. He has led the party not once over ten years, he has done

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it twice. I led the SNP for four years, it is not a key party, it is

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immensely demanding. When he came to see me tell me that he was going to

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be my successor, I said, look, are you sure? -- it is not aid the

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party. It is an awesome task to become a party leader twice. Awesome

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achievements are what you think of when you think of Alex Salmond.

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Nobody thought we could become the government and we did. Nobody

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thought you could win a majority in our Parliament and we did. Most

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people thought we couldn't actually managed to hold a referendum and we

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did, with an 85% turnout in a great democratic triumph. I think awesome

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is the assessment I would put on the achievements of Alex Salmond. The

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suggestion is that his going paves the way for another referendum in

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the not too distant future, because it was his pledge that it wouldn't

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happen for a generation, not the new leader, whoever he or she might be.

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I said during the referendum campaign, and Alex and various other

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members of the party said, Nicola Sturgeon as well, that the

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referendum was a once in a generation opportunity and I don't

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think anyone would expect the day after the referendum to say, oh, we

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have suddenly changed our minds. It is a once in a generation issue.

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What we are focused on now, we have made it clear on the First Minister

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made it clear to the Prime Minister this morning, that we will work to

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make sure the commitments that were made during the referendum of

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additional powers for the Scottish Parliament, pledges made solemnly by

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the three UK party leaders, which in my view have affected the outcome,

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it persuaded some people who were going to vote yes to vote no

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instead, because they were told to vote no and they will get more

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powers... These have to be delivered in the timescale agreed. Thank you

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very much. Lots of reaction in Westminster to

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the resignation of the First Minister and the no vote. David

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Porter, what is being said there tonight? An extraordinary 24-hour is

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in UK and Scottish politics. This time yesterday, there were many

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people in the building behind me who were not sure how the result would

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go. They thought maybe the yes campaign would win, that the UK as

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we know it would dissolve. And that David Cameron could well be calling

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in the removal men, because he would have been the Prime Minister who

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lost the union. Instead, it went far better for the no campaign than many

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of them thought. And instead, it is the leader of the yes campaign, Alex

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Salmond, tonight saying he is going to stand down. David Cameron came

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out of this building at seven o'clock and gave a lengthy detailed

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and quite comprehensive statement about how he wants to take

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constitutional reform forward, more powers for Scotland but also more

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powers for Wales and Northern Ireland, and crucially for England.

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He also said he wants to link those, link them to reducing the power of

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Scottish MPs, to address the so-called West Lothian question.

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Tonight in Downing Street, they are perhaps sleeping a lot more soundly

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than last night. Thank you, David. As we have seen over the last few

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weeks, Scots have been engaged in this referendum debate in a way

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seldom seen before. We have heard from politicians and campaigners,

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but now a report on how the people of Scotland have reacted to the

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result and the First Minister's resignation. Such was the passion in

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this campaign, today was always going to be painful for the side

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that lost. I cannot believe so many people voted against our country

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being a country. Control of our own affairs, it was on a plate for us,

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we should have had it. For many no supporters, it was an end to weeks

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of anxiety. Obviously, hoping that we would win. It is more of a relief

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situation, rather than, oh, dear, what is going to happen from now on?

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In a city which voted yes, George Square in Glasgow was a rallying

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point for supporters of independence. This morning, the

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result was too much for some to bear. Decisions which were meant for

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Scotland, to be made in Scotland... I am really disappointed, I

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genuinely thought it would be a yes. Because it is a no, I hope that we

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get more powers, and I hope that stuff happens. Then came the news

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this afternoon that Alex Salmond was to resign. Really deeply saddened. I

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knew it was going to happen, but for it to happen so quickly, just like

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that, I am really, really ashamed that Scotland has pushed him to

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that. Absolutely devastated. I love that man. He has retired once and

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come back to help Scotland out, and I think he has maybe gone as far as

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he can at the moment. He achieved far more than anybody expected. The

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fact that Glasgow won... It has been a tough 12 hours for yes supporters,

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but there is a feeling that something has been gained. The

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winner is social democracy, no question about it. It is the

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politics of the people, as opposed to the politics of the

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parliamentarians. I think the political establishment of

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Westminster has really come under severe scrutiny. In the end, the

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silent majority made their voice heard, and this was their time to

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celebrate. I think the right decision was made, and I think

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Britain will never be the same again. I think we need to doff our

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hats to Alex Salmond for transforming Britain for the better.

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Today has brought a sense of relief for no voters, but the yes campaign

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has lost a leader, and has been left wondering where this decision will

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take them now. News is coming into us of some scuffles in George Square

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in Glasgow. We have this report which has just come in come in. I

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would say that for most of the day, it was fairly peaceful, occasionally

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getting tense. About ten minutes ago, there was a change in

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atmosphere, and you can see a lot more union flags having come out. I

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would suggest there is a Loyalist element came into the square, a lot

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of people started leaving. A short time ago, flares were fired, the

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union flags over there, they charged right into the crowd. It got a bit

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nasty for a while. Running scuffles. The police have now moved in and

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separated the crowd. Definite change in atmosphere. As I say, it was a

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very specific change in atmosphere. It happened very, very quickly.

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There was a lot of cheering of rule Britannia, and then the flares went

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off, and vehicles came in, and I would say these loyalist elements

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came in from both sides of the square. We got a sense that it was

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almost quite well planned. Most of the day, there had been the elements

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of the yes campaign had been parked down here. But as I say, it happened

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very, very quickly, a big change in atmosphere. But the police seem to

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have separated both groups, and there seems to be an element of calm

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now. I enjoy and now by the leader of the Scottish Labour Party, Johann

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Lamont, and also by Ruth Davidson. We do not want to see those scenes?

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Absolutely not. Right through this process, we have hoped that we could

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have an open and honest conversation amongst Scots. It was a decision for

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Scots, and we have come to it. But that feels more like a football

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crowd gone wrong than anything else. I just hope that they can

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restore order as soon as possible. There is no need for that, we have

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had the biggest, broadest conversation in Scotland's political

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history. We had a record turnout, the people of Scotland have had a

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chance to have their say. We do not want seems like that on our streets.

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Alex Salmond - did he have to go? I do not think he had to go. I was

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surprised when I heard it, and then it kind of made sense. If he was

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going to go, maybe this was a logical time. He has been driving

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all through his life to the point where they was a referendum. Instead

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of Scotland historically having been put into this union, has now

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democratically affirmed that it wants to stay as part of a United

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Kingdom. That feels like a pause in the Scottish story and you can

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understand why he has decided to step back. I cannot imagine what it

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is like to be First Minister, but it must be immense personal pressure on

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him, and this seems a sensible time. You criticised the tone of his

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speech when he was conceding defeat this morning. You said you should be

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proud of his career and not allow the manner of its ending to dominate

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his feeling. I felt, and I could almost forgive him, at a point where

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he had got to the point where it was on the ballot paper, and so many

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people had been involved, I felt there was something in the way that

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he spoke that did not recognise the need for everybody to come

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together, both sides. We all love Scotland and we want the best for

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Scotland. I felt that he stepped back and spoke to his own people

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about the journey for independence. But I think the journey for us in

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the next period is to say, how do we find the things that we can agree on

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in that Scottish Parliament, can we have the conversation about how we

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use the powers we have got to make a difference to people's lives? I

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think that was what drove a lot of the thinking and the conversation

:24:47.:24:50.

over the last period. As he went he was accusing the unionist parties of

:24:51.:24:54.

going back on the promise for more powers for Holyrood? I think he was

:24:55.:24:59.

slightly mistaken in that. We published quite upfront what this

:25:00.:25:04.

plan was, that was signed up. This date of March is not in that. You

:25:05.:25:09.

can go back into your inbox, I am sure you got one as part of the

:25:10.:25:13.

media. It was a very, very clear timetable. There would be

:25:14.:25:17.

legislation on the books, no matter who came in as government in May of

:25:18.:25:22.

next year. There would be legislation on the books, ready to

:25:23.:25:27.

go. That has been reaffirmed by the three Westminster party leaders

:25:28.:25:31.

today. That process is going to happen. Both of you, thank you. We

:25:32.:25:42.

can go to Nick Robinson now. Is there any sense where you are that

:25:43.:25:47.

Westminster is rolling back a little? I do not think they are

:25:48.:25:51.

rolling back. I think the Prime Minister has reiterated the

:25:52.:25:54.

promises. What is happening is that the politics of England is now being

:25:55.:26:00.

fed into the process. It may well clash with the politics of

:26:01.:26:06.

Scotland. Tory MPs in England are now saying, if the Barnett funding

:26:07.:26:10.

formula is to be maintained, actually, we are not happy about

:26:11.:26:13.

that. We do not think that money should go. If Scotland is to have

:26:14.:26:18.

more powers for its parliament, we want more powers either for an

:26:19.:26:21.

English parliament, or some other way of making sure that English

:26:22.:26:24.

votes make English laws at Westminster. It does not necessarily

:26:25.:26:31.

mean there is any intention to a band in the promises, but remember,

:26:32.:26:35.

they have to get it through the Westminster parliament. There are

:26:36.:26:38.

people there who did not sign up to this agreement, do not care about

:26:39.:26:44.

the vow which was made on the front page of the Record, and they will

:26:45.:26:48.

fight for their constituents, just as people in Scotland will fight for

:26:49.:26:55.

their own. We can go to the First Minister's constituency now. Our

:26:56.:26:59.

reporter is there. Alex Salmond has been MSP for

:27:00.:27:06.

Aberdeenshire East since 2007. He has represented the Aberdeenshire

:27:07.:27:07.

area since 1987 in Holyrood and

:27:08.:27:14.

Westminster. He is standing down as SNP leader but staying on as MSP for

:27:15.:27:19.

this area. A short time ago, I spoke to some of his constituents here in

:27:20.:27:27.

Inverurie. I feel very sad to hear that. He has worked so tirelessly in

:27:28.:27:31.

the campaign for independence and I had my him for that. I am sure

:27:32.:27:38.

Nicola Sturgeon will step into his shoes, and again, an excellent

:27:39.:27:42.

leader. I said to my wife, I thought he would perhaps resign in another

:27:43.:27:50.

year's time. Very surprised. He has done a lot for Scotland, no question

:27:51.:27:52.

about it. I am joined now by a friend and

:27:53.:28:05.

colleague of Alex Salmond. Are you surprised? I think Alec always makes

:28:06.:28:11.

decisions quickly. He is a great team builder and team player, and he

:28:12.:28:15.

will be looking at what the decision which the people of Scotland have

:28:16.:28:19.

made in huge numbers means for Scotland. And he will put that at

:28:20.:28:22.

the forefront of the decision he has made. A lot of success since he took

:28:23.:28:28.

over first as leader in the 1990s, but ultimately, failure wanted she

:28:29.:28:33.

has fallen short of the objective he set himself, but he has achieved an

:28:34.:28:37.

enormous amount of. 3.6 million people have voted for change. Both

:28:38.:28:42.

the no campaign and the yes campaign represent change. That is almost

:28:43.:28:47.

inconceivable, even a couple of months ago, it would not have been

:28:48.:28:50.

thought that Alex Salmond would have got us there. But his capability of

:28:51.:28:55.

drawing people in, building teams, has meant that he has delivered a

:28:56.:29:00.

huge result for Scotland. Malcolm Bruce, you are the MP for Inverurie,

:29:01.:29:08.

he was a particularly effective person to fight against? He took the

:29:09.:29:14.

seat of us, yes. He became First Minister, and he secured a

:29:15.:29:19.

referendum. But he has not taken his constituents with him, they voted

:29:20.:29:23.

2-1 against everything he stood for, and I think that is a reason why he

:29:24.:29:28.

had to go. I am not denying his success, but the problem is, he came

:29:29.:29:31.

here as First Minister and never worked the seat, and I do not think

:29:32.:29:35.

he connected with the constituents. He offered them a prospectus on

:29:36.:29:41.

independence, which I believe was irresponsible, and they have

:29:42.:29:45.

rejected that by 2-1. Both of you, thank you. The view from Alex

:29:46.:29:50.

Salmond's Aberdeenshire East constituency tonight.

:29:51.:29:54.

Independence may be off the agenda for years to come,

:29:55.:29:57.

but the way Scotland is governed is bound to change.

:29:58.:30:00.

Ahead of the referendum, the Better Together campaign said

:30:01.:30:02.

a no vote would mean fresh powers for Holyrood.

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And the SNP say they'll press them hard to deliver on that commitment.

:30:05.:30:07.

Our correspondent David Henderson can tell us more.

:30:08.:30:11.

Before voters went into the polling stations, it was

:30:12.:30:14.

made clear to them that even if they voted no, there would still be more

:30:15.:30:18.

So last night's decision fires the starting gun for what's bound

:30:19.:30:23.

to be an intense debate on what those new powers will be.

:30:24.:30:26.

By November, plans will be published setting out what's on offer.

:30:27.:30:34.

By January next year, they should be draft legislation ready

:30:35.:30:36.

But with a general election due in May next year, these proposals won't

:30:37.:30:44.

have the force of law until they're approved by a new batch of MPs.

:30:45.:30:48.

The man appointed to oversee the process is Lord Smith of Kelvin.

:30:49.:30:59.

When David Cameron spoke to me last week, I said, are your people

:31:00.:31:07.

sincere across the UK are little part is about doing something here?

:31:08.:31:11.

He said yes. I am taking that at face value. The Scottish Parliament

:31:12.:31:21.

has already been given new powers to control speed limits and

:31:22.:31:22.

drink-driving. In April 2016, the Scottish

:31:23.:31:25.

government will also be able to borrow up to ?5 billion

:31:26.:31:28.

and vary income tax Holyrood has become more powerful

:31:29.:31:45.

over time. But those powers have come step-by-step, not in one great

:31:46.:31:51.

leap. And the UK's rival parties have rival visions of what they want

:31:52.:31:55.

it to do. Labour wants to give this Parliament the power to vary income

:31:56.:32:01.

tax by 15p in the pound, but they are set to veto any plans which

:32:02.:32:05.

would prevent funds being redistributed around the UK.

:32:06.:32:10.

Anything that stops the justification for the needs -based

:32:11.:32:13.

payments to Scotland through the block, that would be resisted.

:32:14.:32:17.

Anything that suggests national insurance should come to Scotland,

:32:18.:32:23.

or all income tax comes to Scotland, because Labour wants to keep the

:32:24.:32:28.

different risks. The Conservatives want to end the Treasury's control

:32:29.:32:33.

over income tax rates and tax bands. They would make Holyrood accountable

:32:34.:32:38.

for 40% of the money it spends. But some think that should come at a

:32:39.:32:44.

price. What you can't do, I think, is come up with a solution that has

:32:45.:32:51.

loads of Scottish MPs hanging around still nominally representing

:32:52.:32:54.

Scotland, but unable really to vote on any matters that affect Scotland,

:32:55.:32:59.

but only on things that affect England, which is not their area of

:33:00.:33:04.

representation. The Liberal Democrats want to see a new dawn for

:33:05.:33:08.

British politics, giving Scotland power over income tax, inheritance

:33:09.:33:13.

and capital gains tax. They have also touted scrapping the act of

:33:14.:33:17.

union between Scotland and England in favour of a federal structure.

:33:18.:33:23.

But the SNP remains sceptical. The crucial point that comes out of the

:33:24.:33:27.

referendum is those powers must be delivered because they were solemnly

:33:28.:33:32.

offered in a swift and quick timescale, a reliable timescale, by

:33:33.:33:37.

the UK parties. That has to be fulfilled. So, lots of expectation

:33:38.:33:42.

and pressure to deliver a deal. The main UK parties say they already

:33:43.:33:46.

have broad areas of agreement about what additional powers will come to

:33:47.:33:51.

Holyrood. It's clear, though, that some tough horse trading lies ahead

:33:52.:33:55.

and the exact plan remains unclear. And this whole issue will not be

:33:56.:33:58.

settled until next year at the earliest.

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I am joined by Professor John Curtice from Strathclyde University.

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What impact do you think Alex Salmond's resignation will have on

:34:13.:34:17.

the negotiations? It has made it more complicated. A crucial decision

:34:18.:34:22.

the SNP now needs to take, having lost the referendum, is does it or

:34:23.:34:25.

does it not get involved in the talks about more devolution? They

:34:26.:34:30.

are meant to be over by the end of November. The difficulty now added

:34:31.:34:35.

to this is that now the SNP will be involved in a leadership election

:34:36.:34:39.

for most of that period, a leadership election in which what

:34:40.:34:42.

stance the party should take towards more devolution now it has lost the

:34:43.:34:46.

referendum could well be a subject of dispute and difference between

:34:47.:34:50.

the prospective candidates. Given that backdrop, I am not entirely

:34:51.:34:54.

clear that the SNP are either themselves going to be in a position

:34:55.:34:58.

to meet the rapid proposed timetable for coming to some agreement about

:34:59.:35:03.

more devolution within the time frame the Prime Minister reiterated

:35:04.:35:07.

this morning. So things are getting even more complicated. Thank you.

:35:08.:35:12.

Let's go back to normal service for a little while, and find out what

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the weather has in store on this dramatic day, hopefully it is calm.

:35:17.:35:22.

A cooler and fresher feel for most of us, but at least some brightness

:35:23.:35:28.

on the cards, which is more than most of us had today. A lot of cloud

:35:29.:35:33.

and outbreaks of patchy rain, which will continue this evening. This

:35:34.:35:36.

area of rain is sinking south and eastwards across the country, never

:35:37.:35:40.

amounting to much. Behind it, clearer skies filtering into the

:35:41.:35:44.

north-west, allowing it to become Chile in the Glens, six or seven

:35:45.:35:49.

Celsius, more typically 11-13 further south. Quite misty and murky

:35:50.:35:54.

towards the East Coast. In the weekend, a weak cold front that has

:35:55.:35:58.

been bringing the outbreaks of rain. It takes its time to clear

:35:59.:36:01.

south-east Scotland, but high pressure is building in from the

:36:02.:36:07.

west and with it a fresher feel to things. Tomorrow, still some

:36:08.:36:10.

outbreaks of rain in Fife and parts of the Central Belt, the Lothians

:36:11.:36:15.

and the Borders. Across the northern half of the country, a dry and

:36:16.:36:19.

bright start with some early morning sunshine. Come the afternoon, a bit

:36:20.:36:24.

of a reversal. Central and southern parts will see the cloud thinning

:36:25.:36:28.

and breaking to allow sunshine. Further north, the cloud will

:36:29.:36:30.

increase with outbreaks of showery rain. We will finally cleared Mr

:36:31.:36:36.

Ness and murkiness which has been plaguing the east coast, but a brisk

:36:37.:36:39.

north-westerly wind over the Northern Ireland is tomorrow. -- the

:36:40.:36:45.

Northern Isles tomorrow. Strong north-westerly winds. In the north,

:36:46.:36:51.

starting bright, clouding over with patchy rain for the afternoon.

:36:52.:36:55.

Across central and southern ranges, you will start cloudy with patchy

:36:56.:37:00.

rain and it improves for the afternoon. Quite a cold feel with

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the brisk winds. The afternoon and evening will end with some late

:37:06.:37:09.

sunshine, but still showers coming in from the north-west. Sunday, high

:37:10.:37:14.

pressure really starts to establish itself across Scotland. So it will

:37:15.:37:18.

settle us down and we will see decent sunshine, a lot of dry

:37:19.:37:23.

weather but still a fresh feel, quite a crisp day. Some good spells

:37:24.:37:28.

of sunshine, especially for western, central and southern Scotland. A bit

:37:29.:37:32.

more cloud the further north you go, but temperatures or most of us in

:37:33.:37:35.

the mid-to-high teens, a bit cooler around the northern coasts. Monday,

:37:36.:37:49.

a bit of a change as a weather front comes into the Northwest, bringing

:37:50.:37:52.

rain to the northern and western islands, but on the whole still a

:37:53.:37:55.

lot of dry and bright weather. A cooler feel for the weekend, with

:37:56.:37:57.

some brightness around. Earlier, we saw some scuffles in George Square.

:37:58.:38:01.

Let's get an update from Cameron. What is the situation? Still very

:38:02.:38:06.

tense. We have had to pull out, there was definitely a feeling that

:38:07.:38:12.

we were being targeted at one point. Not pleasant in there. Both sides

:38:13.:38:15.

throwing things, smoke bombs and flares at one point. A few scuffles,

:38:16.:38:25.

the police trying to keep people apart. Helicopters overhead. One

:38:26.:38:33.

side singing, Flower of Scotland, the other singing rule Britannia,

:38:34.:38:39.

but still very tense here. Let's go back to the events of last night.

:38:40.:38:43.

The independence campaign managed to win over 1.6 million votes. But just

:38:44.:38:50.

four of the 32 local authority areas, Glasgow, Dundee, West

:38:51.:38:53.

Dunbartonshire and North Lanarkshire. What is the rest of

:38:54.:38:57.

Scotland making of the relatively comfortable victory for Better

:38:58.:39:00.

Together? On the banks of the River Tay, Angela. What is the reaction?

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-- Andrew. Tonight over in Dundee, on the streets and houses, in the

:39:10.:39:13.

bars and cafes, much of the talk will be about the outcome of this

:39:14.:39:17.

referendum. Independence campaigners dubbed Dundee Yes Cap max it it, and

:39:18.:39:24.

Dundee delivered with a majority of 13,000. -- Yes City. The success of

:39:25.:39:34.

the SNP in recent years in encroaching into a traditional

:39:35.:39:36.

Labour heartland had foreshadowed that result. Despite that, Dundee

:39:37.:39:40.

won't be seeing independence because most people in Scotland say they

:39:41.:39:45.

don't want it. So in the streets in there today I met people who were

:39:46.:39:49.

disappointed, depressed, even dejected, but the yes campaign in

:39:50.:39:54.

Dundee are unbowed. They say the referendum has brought together

:39:55.:39:57.

various political groupings. They claim that has created real momentum

:39:58.:40:02.

for change. We have been working together with one aim in mind. We

:40:03.:40:06.

may not agree with each other on individual policies, but we are all

:40:07.:40:10.

working on the best for Scotland. We work together to make Dundee a

:40:11.:40:14.

resounding vote for yes and we are proud of our city. There may be

:40:15.:40:17.

frustration and disappointment but we are proud of what we have

:40:18.:40:20.

achieved in Dundee, and we are delighted Glasgow came the same way.

:40:21.:40:26.

That is how it's looking in Dundee. What about other parts of Scotland?

:40:27.:40:30.

Our reporters have been in Dumfries, Orkney and Inverness. The Inverness

:40:31.:40:37.

statue of Flora MacDonald gazes westwards, wondering what happened

:40:38.:40:41.

to the yes vote in the Highlands when their campaign had seemed so

:40:42.:40:47.

vocal, so well organised. As one Better Together campaigner put it to

:40:48.:40:51.

me, it was finally the no vote turning out, having been reluctant,

:40:52.:40:55.

fearful even, during the campaign of mailing their colours to the mast. I

:40:56.:41:02.

was hoping it would just be the quiet people that kept themselves to

:41:03.:41:07.

themselves and then went and did the deed. Yes, absolutely delighted. On

:41:08.:41:14.

Orkney, there was a clear vote to remain within the union. It was the

:41:15.:41:18.

highest percentage in favour of no anywhere in Scotland, just over 67%.

:41:19.:41:23.

Even here, though, there is a difference of opinion over last

:41:24.:41:26.

night's result and a willingness to look towards the future. I was

:41:27.:41:31.

really getting worried, I thought, oh my gosh, is it going to go yes?

:41:32.:41:40.

Personally very disappointed that the yes campaign didn't win, because

:41:41.:41:43.

in many ways we had the most positive arguments. But if there is

:41:44.:41:49.

something to look forward to, it's that all parties seem to agree that

:41:50.:41:53.

we need to reform the political system, and I think we have to make

:41:54.:41:58.

sure the politicians do that meaningfully. Re-conciliation is the

:41:59.:42:03.

most important thing. I do fear that it may have created a rift and it

:42:04.:42:08.

needs to be healed. Along with the Scottish Borders, Dumfries and

:42:09.:42:12.

Galloway the lid of the most emphatic rejection of independence,

:42:13.:42:17.

a 2-1 vote against. -- delivered the most emphatic rejection. A higher

:42:18.:42:20.

than average proportion of English born voters and elderly voters, and

:42:21.:42:25.

of course the cap back border influence. The vote means Scotland

:42:26.:42:29.

and England will remain united, but what about divisions on the ground?

:42:30.:42:34.

And in the future? We need a period of reflection. And I think we need

:42:35.:42:41.

to learn much more from the Westminster government about what is

:42:42.:42:45.

on the table in terms of devolution. It's going to be a wake-up call to

:42:46.:42:49.

the Westminster government to help not only Scotland, which they

:42:50.:42:53.

promised to do years ago and have never quite delivered, but to help

:42:54.:42:56.

northern England and Wales and Northern Ireland. I am particularly

:42:57.:43:01.

delighted because there have been promised is from the Westminster

:43:02.:43:05.

government to improve what we have got at the moment. -- there have

:43:06.:43:10.

been promises. That has gone a long way to increase the majority. All

:43:11.:43:13.

the promises they have made us, we will have to wait and see, but I

:43:14.:43:20.

feel down today. Yet Scotland knew they were underdogs in the south and

:43:21.:43:23.

won't have been surprised to lose the vote here. -- Yes Scotland. But

:43:24.:43:29.

given the social media campaign, the size of the defeat will hurt.

:43:30.:43:35.

The thing I found fascinating to be wandering around Dundee city

:43:36.:43:41.

centre, what was already beginning to bring yes and no voters together,

:43:42.:43:45.

that was the prospect of further powers, more powers for the Scottish

:43:46.:43:49.

parliament. The yes and no voters I spoke to agree that was necessary

:43:50.:43:53.

and should happen, and it's that next stage in this debate that they

:43:54.:43:56.

are going to be watching very closely over the coming weeks and

:43:57.:43:57.

months. It was the Kingdom of Fife that

:43:58.:44:12.

finally pushed the no vote over the finishing line in the small hours.

:44:13.:44:14.

Alison Morgan reports. It is not the first time Fife has

:44:15.:44:26.

played a significant role in Scotland's political history. This

:44:27.:44:29.

was where Alex Salmond got his majority in 2011. In 2014, it was

:44:30.:44:35.

where Scotland said no. It has got everything from agriculture,

:44:36.:44:39.

high-tech, traditional mining areas. It is so different to other areas.

:44:40.:44:46.

It is Scotland in miniature. So, how did this microcosm of Scotland view

:44:47.:44:51.

the no result? I was completely taken aback that there has been a no

:44:52.:44:55.

vote here. Absolutely devastated, really. I was a no vote myself. And

:44:56.:45:04.

I have got a 4 -year-old son. It is not of about our generation, it is

:45:05.:45:09.

about the younger ones. I am not very happy about it, to be honest.

:45:10.:45:16.

Kirkcaldy is known as the birthplace of the economist Adam Smith, but how

:45:17.:45:19.

influential was another economist and local boy, the former Prime

:45:20.:45:23.

Minister Gordon Brown, in making sure of the no vote here in Fife? At

:45:24.:45:29.

last, the world is hearing the voices of the real people of

:45:30.:45:37.

Scotland. The silent majority will be silent no more. He does have a

:45:38.:45:45.

lot of support, and I think he may be swung it at the last minute for

:45:46.:45:49.

the no campaign. A big influence, I think, yes. I do not know if he was

:45:50.:45:55.

the most popular Prime Minister, but he is local and he seemed to come

:45:56.:46:00.

across well, passionate. But there are other opinions on why people

:46:01.:46:05.

here in Fife voted the way they did. People were getting confused on what

:46:06.:46:08.

they were voting for. They were not voting for SNP, that is where we got

:46:09.:46:13.

lost. I think it has been money, mostly. I think people have been

:46:14.:46:18.

frightened about pensions and this and that. It is such a brave

:46:19.:46:23.

decision to be made, and I do not think the promises were good enough.

:46:24.:46:27.

It could have just been the last-minute jitters, they could not

:46:28.:46:30.

go for the big change, the uncertainty. One thing IS certain -

:46:31.:46:37.

the waiting for the outcome of the referendum is over.

:46:38.:46:41.

But a different story in Scotland's biggest city, Glasgow.

:46:42.:46:43.

The people there backed independence.

:46:44.:46:46.

194,000 of them saying yes, with a turnout of 75%.

:46:47.:46:48.

Glasgow is a Scottish city like no other. Heavy traditional industry

:46:49.:47:02.

welding home-workers together in solidarity. This historically shaped

:47:03.:47:05.

politics. It is true Labour heartland. Once upon a time... Yes,

:47:06.:47:18.

194,000. Now, Glasgow is a city for independence. You cannot guarantee

:47:19.:47:25.

that Glasgow will do what every other place in Scotland does. But in

:47:26.:47:30.

recent years Lascelles has had a declining vote for the Labour Party.

:47:31.:47:36.

The city council seems to be bucking that trend. The independence

:47:37.:47:40.

movement has had some success in Glasgow over the years, but never

:47:41.:47:45.

prolonged. Margo MacDonald, and John Mason, 35 years later, both lost

:47:46.:47:49.

their SNP seats at the next election. Today's result marks a

:47:50.:47:53.

significant change, according to some. Scotland's biggest city wants

:47:54.:47:59.

change, that is what we take from this. We want to attack poverty and

:48:00.:48:05.

low pay. I am proud of everyone who voted for independence, particularly

:48:06.:48:10.

Glasgow. The Labour Party had better open its ears, because it is

:48:11.:48:14.

finished in Glasgow. Those who have held power in Glasgow for Labour say

:48:15.:48:19.

the city will not only return to the party, but shape its rise back into

:48:20.:48:26.

power. I expect Glaswegians to give the Labour Party a bloody nose, and

:48:27.:48:30.

they did. I would expect them now to lead the Labour revival. I would

:48:31.:48:36.

expect them to start working for that socially just society, and they

:48:37.:48:40.

will do that by returning Labour at the next general election. The site

:48:41.:48:45.

of heavy industry, now standing as a tourist attraction, perhaps best

:48:46.:48:51.

illustrates the huge change which is consuming Glasgow for the last three

:48:52.:48:58.

or four decades. What remains to be seen is whether these latest results

:48:59.:49:00.

will usher in a new type of politics across the city.

:49:01.:49:03.

So how does Scotland come together after a long and robust debate?

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Services are planned over the weekend to bring

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One of those involves the Moderator of the General Assembly

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The Right Reverend John Chalmers joins me now.

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Do you really think such services are necessary? Well, I think they

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are going to help. I am really pleased that today began with

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restraint, both of the First Minister and Alistair Darling I

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think set the right tone. And I think that we can help on Sunday

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when we have all of the party leaders together, committing to some

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unity of purpose for Scotland going forward. I asked the question, do we

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really need it, but we have seen footage tonight of unrest in the

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centre of our biggest city... As you know, there has been at the fringe

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of the campaign some unrest, and I think it was perhaps predictable

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that there might be, on the fringe, some unrest today. But as I said

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already, we began the day with restraint and I hope we can end it

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with restraint. I think the right note has been set between those who

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have won and those who feel they have lost, and I think we can start

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to repair the damage even further this weekend. And the impact of the

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Queen's words? I think she has demonstrated a confidence in the

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Scottish people to be able to set aside their differences. Yesterday,

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they were on opposite sides of the same coin. Today, they are the same

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coin. We can heal, and we can move forward together. That is my great

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hope and prayer. Moderator, thank you for coming along tonight.

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The major news this afternoon is that Alex Salmond has resigned as

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First Minister. His career spanned more than 40 years. He was a member

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of the Federation of student nationalists at St Andrews

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University, going right up to the present day. This report from Andrew

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Kerr. This young lad from Linlithgow

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became a young man with a plan. Alexander Elliot Anderson Salmond

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signed up to the Scottish National A student with a keen sense

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of Scottish history, he became a man with a key role

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in Scotland's modern story. A rising star in the party, he ended

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up being expelled for being part of In 1987, he was on his way to

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Westminster. In 1988, Nigel Lawson's

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budget was interrupted. I beg to move that Mr Salmond be

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suspended from the service The stunt paved the way

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for a successful leadership bid Years of managing the party

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through opposition then followed. Scottish politics came to the fore

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at Westminster, with a devolution referendum in 1997. Political rivals

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joined sides, and it was a good result for Alex Salmond, a prophetic

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meant for Westminster. They had better sit up and take notice,

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something is changing in Scotland. Two years later, he led the SNP into

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the first Scottish elections. The voters did not buy a penny for

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Scotland. Disappointment for the SNP.

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After a lacklustre time, the leader stepped down in 2000.

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I really, I can't begin to explain how much I enjoy this aspect,

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The men in grey kilts, a popular phrase at the time,

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In an Aberdeen hotel in July 2004, Mr Salmond announced he was

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Today, I am launching my candidacy to be the First Minister of

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Scotland. He had an inkling that Labour were

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in decline, that there would be Fast forward to May 2007,

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and a win by one seat. Mr Salmond addressed

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the delighted party faithful. The trials and tribulations of being

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in power then followed. The release of the Lockerbie bomber caused

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international outrage. On the domestic front,

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the national conversation sowed Scotland liked what it saw in the

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main and gave the SNP another chance The crowning glory, at the time,

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for the master strategist. This is not just a victory for a

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single political party, I believe it is a victory for a society, a people

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and a nation. A majority government meant

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a referendum. The Edinburgh agreement

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in autumn 2012 sealed the deal. London and Edinburgh would abide

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by the result. The very substantial gain that

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Scotland now has is that we have an agreed process to hold this

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referendum. I am honoured to announce that on Thursday the 18th

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of September 2014, we will hold Scotland's referendum, a historic

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day, when the people will decide Scotland's future.

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A dream come true or too much too soon?

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Now with the authority of the Scottish government behind him, he

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This referendum is about the future of Scotland, and the future of

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Scotland should be in the hands of the people of Scotland. That young

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man with a plan set a date of destiny for the people of Scotland.

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It was not to be. Now, he says his time is nearly over. But the

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campaign continues. He says he hopes that youthful dream will never die.

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Did he have to go now? Some of his friends and colleagues tried to

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persuade him to stay. I think firstly he has a personal feeling

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that he has done the job for rather a long time, 20 years as leader, in

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two stints of the longest serving First Minister, not a bad shift, as

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he says himself, at the coal face. Secondly, there is a pragmatic

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consideration, which is that yes, this was an amazing exercise in

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democracy, but the sheer numbers tell you that the independence cause

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lost, it lost the day. So Mr Salmond is associated with a defeat, and

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perhaps tactically, he believes it is better to have another person

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stepped in, and that person will be Nicola Sturgeon, thereby advancing

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the cause of independence. He has been described today as one of, or

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the best, politician of his generation, he was a formidable

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campaigner? Was and is. An exceptionally able individual. I

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have known him for rather a long time, we were at university

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together. That person of him at university is quite hideous, given

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that he is exactly nine days older than me. He was always a committed

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and dedicated politician, from those university days, right up to today.

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Is it that certain that the successor will be Nicola Sturgeon?

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The bookies have certainly installed her as the clear favourite. I think

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those in the party who may consider standing against her will know that

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that is the case, and if they do, I do not fancy their chances in a

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leadership contest. Nicola Sturgeon has a hard act to follow, I think

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formidable is the right word for Alex Salmond, feared and admired in

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equal measure. It will be for his successor to try and make the most

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out of the settlement. It now seems that the country is somewhat divided

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on its future. The First Minister is stepping down. We are told more

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powers will come to the Scottish Parliament. The Queen says the

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result will be the spectator throughout the United Kingdom. From

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all of us on Reporting Scotland, after an extraordinary day, I hope

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you have enjoyed our coverage, for now, goodbye. I believe that this is

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a new, exciting situation, which is redolent with possibility. But in

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that situation, I think the party, Parliament and country would benefit

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from new leadership. # You promised me something to

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believe in.

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