07/12/2013 The Papers

access to investigate China's Tibetan areas where there have been

allegations of human rights abuses `` Damian Grammaticas has rare

access. So, welcome to our look ahead to

what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me to do that are

some familiar faces, Nigel Nelson, the political editor of the Sunday

people and Mihir Bose, a columnist for the London Evening Standard Let

for the London Evening Standard. Let me take you through some of the

headlines on the front pages tomorrow. A black and white photo of

nozzle Mandela dominating the front page of the observer with the

headline that his body will lie in state in a Glass Coffin before he is

buried at the village where he grew up.

The Sunday Times talks about an 11% pay rise for MPs which it pricks

will be met with fury `` it predicts.

Soldiers are to face 11 more trials over Iraq deaths according to the

Sunday Telegraph according to human rights ruling.

The independent was my main photo highlights the slaughter of

Africa's elephants and the weather also makes room for a story on what

it says is the housing crisis facing the Tories.

Gentlemen, let's begin. We will start with the observer and Nelson

Mandela, as you would expect, still dominating front pages tomorrow. A

chance for the papers to dig out their own archives as well. Yes.

Here we have a portrait in the Observer from 1962 and the story now

is looking ahead to the funeral which is going to be a 10`day event.

We have got world leaders turning up in South Africa on Tuesday and then

the funeral proper which will not be until next Sunday. Lots of people,

Nigel, over the last couple of days have been describing him as the

greatest political leader of all time. Is that fair's that is a

long`time! I do think he was the greatest leader of the last century.

Because he became such an inspiration to every other political

leader. You have seen by the kind of tributes pouring out, just what

influence he had on them. There was a man who could knock on any world

leader's law and know that they would would open it # on any world

leader's door. He gave Tony Blair a hard time over Iraq and Tony Blair

tried to avoid him and for the most part, he could do anything, go

anywhere. I saw one of the statesman`like appearances he made

at the Labour Party conference and he was the biggest political

celebrity that anybody had ever seen there. A big piece for the Labour

Party, and for the audience, everything was focused on Nelson

Mandela. The outpouring has been global. I was reporting in

Parliament Square at the statue which he unveiled himself. There

were people there have never been to South Africa. I've never met him. ``

had never met him. He seems to touch many lives. It is hard to imagine

any other figure dying and there being a minute's silence at a

Premier League match. He united the world in quite a remarkable fashion.

Is that because he was an inspiration? He was an inspiring

person? I met him a year after he was released and taken to his Soweto

home and he understood remarkably well. He carried no bitterness. He

described how he had watched a test match in segregated seats you could

not approach the players and South Africa were playing Australia but he

dare not speak to the main Australian batsman because if you

spoke to them, he would be thrown out and he spoke without any

bitterness of the many call him Madiba and I think after the 27

years in prison, he emerged and he emerged at a time when perhaps our

views of the world's views on racial discrimination completely changed

and he created this rainbow nation without the violence. Everybody

predicted there would have to be violence, the Afrikaners would not

accept anything but he did all that and he was very good at reaching out

to people. You have lots of celebrity friends, lots of royal

friends `` he had lots of. The Sunday Times, one of the papers

tomorrow, looking ahead at the possible guest list for his

funeral. Also remembering that the Queen referred to him as her dear

friend. She will not be in attendance but the funeral is

causing a major problem. Because where it is taking place is in his

village in the Eastern Cape. It would be a security nightmare so

what seems to be happening and still being firmed up is that certainly

our political leaders, Ed Miliband and David Cameron, they will go to

the memorial service in the football stadium where the World Cup was held

in Johannesburg on Tuesday. It is looking increasingly unlikely they

will go to the funeral itself. Just to explain, this is where he grew

up. The open fields and other family members buried there. It really is a

working farm. Yes, and you will have his genuine friends going there so

Bill Clinton will be giving the address there. I think that seems to

be the idea. Bono as well. It could be tricky with that many people

there. A few of the Spice Girls as well. It is quite difficult to get

there as well. And Nelson Mandela came from royal stock. The play she

had come from. Presumably there will be a private burial ceremony. The

Sunday Times suggested there may be a traditional slaughter of a cow or

a sheep. A tribal ritual of which they have already been some. That

move onto other stories featuring on the front pages. Back to the

Observer now. This is a story now which looks ahead at Ed Miliband's

possible election team. And we seeing the return of new Labour?

This will cause a lot of fuss. It seems to be an internal memo that

the observer have managed to get their hands on. It is suggesting

that some of the bigwigs of new Labour, Alistair Campbell, Alan

Milburn, Peter Mandelson may be on their way back and will be advising

at the band during election time. Should this turnout to be true, ``

advising Ed Miliband during election time. How much should we read into

that? Alistair Campbell is good at his job. He does what he does. That

is the point. And so is Peter Mandelson. When it comes to winning

elections, Peter Mandelson is a master at that kind of thing.

Whatever the policies. They will have to do something tactical rather

than check Egypt. That is Ed Miliband's job. And we have seen a

shift to the left `` tactical rather than strategic. As long as they

don't surround with the policies, I can see them trying to help the

campaign. They are coming back because they have been successful

before so they know how to win elections. As opposed to what the

policies might be that may not be a tricky balancing act. They might not

support the policies. I will be surprised to keep them keep their

fingers out of the policies as well. Let's move on to the Sunday Times,

sticking with politics and how much politicians get paid. A lot of this

goes right back to the expenses scandal. But the argument with the

expenses scandal was that they do not get paid a lot. We have never

really worked out what they should be getting paid. If you look at what

they are paid in America, what we should compare with is what they pay

in other countries and what they were should be paid. Far too many

MPs act like local councillors. Should they be doing that? Their

role should be to look at the legislation, that make sure we have

good legislation. Do they have enough resources? That should be the

case. Hasn't the argument from the politicians being that they could

earn a heck of a lot more money not being politicians? Then they

shouldn't become politicians. They have their arguments. We could talk

about the BBC... I love my job, I would do it for free. Everybody has

had their salaries stamped on and the idea that politicians will lead

up from 66,000 two 74,000 will infuriate people. But it is right.

What should be pay our politicians? What happened under Margaret

Thatcher was that when they wanted a pay rise then, she said no, tell you

what, one a bit on your expenses `` put a bit on your expenses. And at a

time when people are losing jobs, being made redundant and not

receiving pay rises, the theory comes from that. And we do not

expect polishes Philip macro politicians to be respected. `` we

do not expect politicians to be respected. The Parliament standards

authority was brought in because of the fiddling of expenses so it is an

independent judgement. Maybe expenses claims will go down 11 .

There are losing golden handshakes and final salary pension schemes.

Onto the Sunday Telegraph. This is in reaction to a High Court ruling,

soldiers to face 11 more trials over Iraq deaths. Tell us more on this.

This is on the back of Sergeant Alexander Black who has been sent

down for ten years for murdering a wounded Taliban fighter. They are

now looking at 11 different deaths in Iraq in British hands. This will

result in 11 separate enquiries I result in 11 separate enquiries I

would imagine the army are feeling the league that all this is being

raised. We are going back now ten years to what happened in Iraq. But

if evidence is coming to light, that should be investigated, we have a

duty to do so. Equally, a huge number of Iraqi families fighting

for justice and it has taken that long. Yes, but the climate is

slightly different now. We have a soldier who has been sent to jail

for ten years for murder, that is focusing minds and we are now

looking at possible misdemeanours in the past. When we say we are morally

right, we have to show we are. When we have situations where a soldier

has killed someone like in this case, a wounded Taliban there has

got to a trial of some sort. Do you think lessons are learned from

trials like this? The Ivy capable of implementing fence to prevent abuses

of power. `` are they capable? It is difficult. So long as we do not do

what some other regimes do which is see that killing like this has not

happened. `` say. It will make a lot of people think twice before perhaps

doing something that they should not. We have run out of time. Thank

you for taking us through the papers. We will do it again in

around 25 minutes time. We will be looking at the papers just after 11

o'clock this evening. Coming up next, it is the Reporters, do not go

away. Welcome to the programme. I'm Zeinab

Badawi. In this week's programme: Inside China's Tibetan areas. Our

reporter looks at increasing revelations over human rights

abuses. There has been a clamp`down on monasteries and all aspects of

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