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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be ringing


us tomorrow for sub with me is the pensions expert Ros Altmann and also


James Lyons, the deputy blood alleged the Daily Mirror. Let's have


a look at what the papers are showing us. On the front page of the


independent, a lovely picture of one of thousands of people, young child,


paying their respects Nelson Mandela, dominating the front page.


Also room for and the ongoing protest in the Ukraine is the main


photo on the frontal times. Alongside the news HSBC is


considering floating its UK arm. Father with no right is the Daily


Mail headline as the paper tells Father's 12 year divorce battle to


see his daughter. And the weather story dominates the Daily Express.


Storms are on the way this Christmas. What is it about the


express? They are obsessed with the weather, aren't they? Good evening


to you both. A bit of a mix now emerging on the front pages from


Strictly Come Dancing to South Africa, two very domestic stories as


well. We are going to start with the Daily Telegraph. A High Court judge


appealing to couples to get married basically. It's unbelievable in this


day and age to share somebody express it in that way. You know,


you might have heard that 50 years ago, but... Nothing wrong with that,


though. There's nothing wrong with it but to tell people, to think you


need to tell people I do have to be married or make sure you need to


tell people I do have to be married or make sure you're ready to have


it's like someone from a different age. I'm going to shock you now. I


age. I'm going to shock you now I had my children out of wedlock. I


just had my third and just married before that. Has being married made


a difference to your jaw wife? Do you feel like your relationship is


stronger? I'm a lot poorer. Wait till you get divorced. I'm trying to


avoid that expense. This guide is going to retire next year. I think


you should probably push off now if that's his idea. How are you


supposed to know? I never felt ready. It does quote the whole of


criminal justice organisation who said this something different about


being married, it's more stable people are bound together when they


are married in a way they are not if they are just living together, which


is... That's because they had been living together for donkeys years


and split up before. And they have children. Do you think marriage has


become more and fashioned? It's not about that. For a lot of people,


it's just the relevant. And it's not for everybody, is it? Nearly half of


kids are born out of wedlock now. In 1998, it is a quarter of kids born


out of wedlock. But are you going to say nobody is best to have kids


unless they are married? A child is a big commitment. A lifelong can


admit you can't get out of. Divorce rates are at a record high so


getting married is no guarantee whatsoever staying together. I don't


think he has done the judiciary any favours. No, they are out of touch.


Of course, you got to be able to afford to get married falls to do


that, you've got to have a job and people are now being told to stop


moaning about migrants and find a job for themselves. Well, I'm


slightly surprised to see Sir Stuart Rose, the former boss of Marks


Spencer 's, talking about it in bold terms like this. Basically, he's


saying, if not prepared to work as hard as foreign immigrants,


Romanians, dimensions, you should expect not to a job, but his words


ignore the facts that there's lots of people coming over from Eastern


Europe, younger, they don't have the same family commitments as people


here, all have families back home where it's cheaper to send money


back home, so it's not a level playing field. To just brushed aside


people 's concerns about living standards, being undercut in this


way, which is what has happened in a lot of industries competently


building work for example. I think it's a bit of a bubble. A lot of


British workers have already taken quite a lot of pain, accepted lower


wages sometimes. Accepted worse working conditions, to some degree.


They've managed to keep their job and actually, when you read what


they've said, what is actually saying is, the economy is going to


do very well, go out and find a job because it will be easier to find a


job now. Just saying that is fine. Yes, actually, I think we have


turned a corner in the economy. Yes, I think 2014 is going to be a


pretty strong year. But, why make that into some kind of... Are still


millions more unemployed people out there. The economy may be recovering


but anybody can get a job. I remember reporting during the


construction of the Olympic site and there was lots of moaning about


particularly in the East End of London from locals saying they


weren't getting the jobs they were promised on the Olympic site and


they were going to Eastern European 's, but when you look at some of the


jobs, they were the low skilled jobs in the early days of the


construction. What a lot of us for men and agencies were saying is


British people weren't willing to take those jobs. Eastern European


swear. Do you think we do suffer with snobbery about some of the you


willing to take on? If that's the case, then I think young people are


starting to be more realistic in their expectations about being in a


job. If a passport to a better job, rather than being out of work


altogether. I just don't know why we need to make this into an immigrants


versus British people issue. That's the danger and it could end up


heading that way. On the front page of the independent, stunning


picture. This gorgeous girl. One of 2000 at the church in Soweto for the


National Day of prayer for Nelson Mandela. Room for a story which


takes forward a story we have been reporting today. The poorest pay the


price for austerity. They are saying a significant number of either


public sector workers or workers who have been contracted out into


private sector like care workers, for example, are being paid so


little now, even when you are in work you actually stay poor. And


certainly, I have seen that with workers in the care sector. Pay is


appallingly low. And by contracting the care work out from the local


council, to private sector providers, the actual workers


themselves are paid a lot less than they would be paid by the council.


You know, it is an issue. I don't You know, it is an issue. I don t


know what to do about it. This is the story... We've had a grim


economy for three years. There are people. Been doing very well and


people at the bottom doing really, really badly. Buried in the fine


print of the Chancellor's autumn statement last week, was a graph


which showed actually, the tax and benefit changes this government have


brought in since the last election, mean the bottom 40% of people are


worse off than they would otherwise have been and the next 50% above


that are doing very nicely thank you very much. They then pile pane onto


the top 10%, which are not arguing against, to try to make it look like


the rich are doing their bit as well. I don't think things like that


affect David Cameron. I think people accepted from Nick Clegg. He said we


won't balance the books on the backs of the portals of that exacted what


they have done. Things are becoming more expensive, particularly food.


Salaries aren't going up. A problem with inflation. Next, hopefully,


with inflation. Next, hopefully will be a lot better. Very briefly,


sorry to put you on the spot, but do you feel more families will be


struggling in retirement as well? Presumably, one of the things they


do fall back on his pension payments. Yes, there has been an


issue on pensions. And there will continue to be. Although pensioners


have been probably better protected than some of the other areas of


society, we started off from a very low base but there is definitely an


issue with low paid workers, it s not clear whether these are


part`time workers or not. There's another report around... Its


underemployment. There's another report around from the Joseph


Rowntree Foundation who show 6.7 Rowntree Foundation who show 6.7


million people who are in poverty but working. Extraordinary. The idea


that workplace, doesn't ring true. Onto the financial Times. Two very


interesting stories on the front page. A remarkable image of the


statue of Lenin being knocked down in the Ukraine. We haven't seen a


protest this pic in the Ukraine since the Orange Revolution in


Independance Square. Extraordinary pictures coming out this evening. A


sinister development. The security services have launched a criminal


investigation into activities aimed at overthrowing the government. I


think we can all begin to imagine what that might involve, the grim


news. Basically, they want to go into the EU. I think Russia is


putting pressure on the Ukraine. into the EU. I think Russia is


putting pressure on the Ukraine. I putting pressure on the Ukraine. I


don't think it's about going into the EU but a sense of national


identity as well. If they are closing up to Russia, it's too much


like the old days. They want to sign a deal which would mean a closer


deal with the EU. And Moscow went mental. This country has just hosted


2012. Very scary. The other story, supermarkets want independent


Scotland will pay more for food. Another foreign country if we're not


careful. This is interesting because what is significant about this as


it's the first time we have heard unnamed business organisation


talking about the impact of independence. For various reasons,


understandable, people are quite reluctant. Andy Murray doesn't want


to say doesn't want to say doesn't want to see Scotland breakaway


because he will get all sorts of flak from the Scottish Nationalists,


but we have got various supermarket chains here, Tesco, Asda, Morrisons,


Sainsbury's, adding their heads above the parapet and saying, look,


at the moment, we factor in the extra transport costs for food and


averaged across the UK. If Scotland goes independent, we will put up


grocery prices and that's the kind of thing which will hit home. We


will see a lot of headlines therefore the spokesman from the


Scottish governance that was no reason for retail prices to rise,


transferring the Panasonic to proposals for lower corporation tax


and fuel duty as well. So thank you very much for that we have run out


of time but we will be doing it again in one hour. Thank you both.


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