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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be ringing

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us tomorrow for sub with me is the pensions expert Ros Altmann and also

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James Lyons, the deputy blood alleged the Daily Mirror. Let's have

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a look at what the papers are showing us. On the front page of the

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independent, a lovely picture of one of thousands of people, young child,

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paying their respects Nelson Mandela, dominating the front page.

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Also room for and the ongoing protest in the Ukraine is the main

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photo on the frontal times. Alongside the news HSBC is

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considering floating its UK arm. Father with no right is the Daily

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Mail headline as the paper tells Father's 12 year divorce battle to

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see his daughter. And the weather story dominates the Daily Express.

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Storms are on the way this Christmas. What is it about the

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express? They are obsessed with the weather, aren't they? Good evening

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to you both. A bit of a mix now emerging on the front pages from

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Strictly Come Dancing to South Africa, two very domestic stories as

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well. We are going to start with the Daily Telegraph. A High Court judge

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appealing to couples to get married basically. It's unbelievable in this

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day and age to share somebody express it in that way. You know,

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you might have heard that 50 years ago, but... Nothing wrong with that,

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though. There's nothing wrong with it but to tell people, to think you

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need to tell people I do have to be married or make sure you need to

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tell people I do have to be married or make sure you're ready to have

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it's like someone from a different age. I'm going to shock you now. I

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age. I'm going to shock you now I had my children out of wedlock. I

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just had my third and just married before that. Has being married made

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a difference to your jaw wife? Do you feel like your relationship is

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stronger? I'm a lot poorer. Wait till you get divorced. I'm trying to

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avoid that expense. This guide is going to retire next year. I think

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you should probably push off now if that's his idea. How are you

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supposed to know? I never felt ready. It does quote the whole of

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criminal justice organisation who said this something different about

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being married, it's more stable people are bound together when they

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are married in a way they are not if they are just living together, which

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is... That's because they had been living together for donkeys years

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and split up before. And they have children. Do you think marriage has

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become more and fashioned? It's not about that. For a lot of people,

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it's just the relevant. And it's not for everybody, is it? Nearly half of

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kids are born out of wedlock now. In 1998, it is a quarter of kids born

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out of wedlock. But are you going to say nobody is best to have kids

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unless they are married? A child is a big commitment. A lifelong can

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admit you can't get out of. Divorce rates are at a record high so

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getting married is no guarantee whatsoever staying together. I don't

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think he has done the judiciary any favours. No, they are out of touch.

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Of course, you got to be able to afford to get married falls to do

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that, you've got to have a job and people are now being told to stop

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moaning about migrants and find a job for themselves. Well, I'm

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slightly surprised to see Sir Stuart Rose, the former boss of Marks

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Spencer 's, talking about it in bold terms like this. Basically, he's

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saying, if not prepared to work as hard as foreign immigrants,

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Romanians, dimensions, you should expect not to a job, but his words

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ignore the facts that there's lots of people coming over from Eastern

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Europe, younger, they don't have the same family commitments as people

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here, all have families back home where it's cheaper to send money

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back home, so it's not a level playing field. To just brushed aside

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people 's concerns about living standards, being undercut in this

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way, which is what has happened in a lot of industries competently

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building work for example. I think it's a bit of a bubble. A lot of

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British workers have already taken quite a lot of pain, accepted lower

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wages sometimes. Accepted worse working conditions, to some degree.

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They've managed to keep their job and actually, when you read what

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they've said, what is actually saying is, the economy is going to

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do very well, go out and find a job because it will be easier to find a

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job now. Just saying that is fine. Yes, actually, I think we have

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turned a corner in the economy. Yes, I think 2014 is going to be a

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pretty strong year. But, why make that into some kind of... Are still

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millions more unemployed people out there. The economy may be recovering

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but anybody can get a job. I remember reporting during the

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construction of the Olympic site and there was lots of moaning about

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particularly in the East End of London from locals saying they

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weren't getting the jobs they were promised on the Olympic site and

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they were going to Eastern European 's, but when you look at some of the

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jobs, they were the low skilled jobs in the early days of the

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construction. What a lot of us for men and agencies were saying is

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British people weren't willing to take those jobs. Eastern European

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swear. Do you think we do suffer with snobbery about some of the you

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willing to take on? If that's the case, then I think young people are

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starting to be more realistic in their expectations about being in a

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job. If a passport to a better job, rather than being out of work

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altogether. I just don't know why we need to make this into an immigrants

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versus British people issue. That's the danger and it could end up

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heading that way. On the front page of the independent, stunning

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picture. This gorgeous girl. One of 2000 at the church in Soweto for the

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National Day of prayer for Nelson Mandela. Room for a story which

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takes forward a story we have been reporting today. The poorest pay the

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price for austerity. They are saying a significant number of either

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public sector workers or workers who have been contracted out into

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private sector like care workers, for example, are being paid so

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little now, even when you are in work you actually stay poor. And

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certainly, I have seen that with workers in the care sector. Pay is

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appallingly low. And by contracting the care work out from the local

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council, to private sector providers, the actual workers

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themselves are paid a lot less than they would be paid by the council.

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You know, it is an issue. I don't You know, it is an issue. I don t

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know what to do about it. This is the story... We've had a grim

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economy for three years. There are people. Been doing very well and

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people at the bottom doing really, really badly. Buried in the fine

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print of the Chancellor's autumn statement last week, was a graph

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which showed actually, the tax and benefit changes this government have

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brought in since the last election, mean the bottom 40% of people are

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worse off than they would otherwise have been and the next 50% above

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that are doing very nicely thank you very much. They then pile pane onto

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the top 10%, which are not arguing against, to try to make it look like

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the rich are doing their bit as well. I don't think things like that

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affect David Cameron. I think people accepted from Nick Clegg. He said we

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won't balance the books on the backs of the portals of that exacted what

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they have done. Things are becoming more expensive, particularly food.

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Salaries aren't going up. A problem with inflation. Next, hopefully,

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with inflation. Next, hopefully will be a lot better. Very briefly,

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sorry to put you on the spot, but do you feel more families will be

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struggling in retirement as well? Presumably, one of the things they

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do fall back on his pension payments. Yes, there has been an

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issue on pensions. And there will continue to be. Although pensioners

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have been probably better protected than some of the other areas of

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society, we started off from a very low base but there is definitely an

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issue with low paid workers, it s not clear whether these are

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part`time workers or not. There's another report around... Its

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underemployment. There's another report around from the Joseph

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Rowntree Foundation who show 6.7 Rowntree Foundation who show 6.7

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million people who are in poverty but working. Extraordinary. The idea

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that workplace, doesn't ring true. Onto the financial Times. Two very

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interesting stories on the front page. A remarkable image of the

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statue of Lenin being knocked down in the Ukraine. We haven't seen a

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protest this pic in the Ukraine since the Orange Revolution in

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Independance Square. Extraordinary pictures coming out this evening. A

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sinister development. The security services have launched a criminal

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investigation into activities aimed at overthrowing the government. I

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think we can all begin to imagine what that might involve, the grim

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news. Basically, they want to go into the EU. I think Russia is

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putting pressure on the Ukraine. into the EU. I think Russia is

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putting pressure on the Ukraine. I putting pressure on the Ukraine. I

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don't think it's about going into the EU but a sense of national

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identity as well. If they are closing up to Russia, it's too much

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like the old days. They want to sign a deal which would mean a closer

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deal with the EU. And Moscow went mental. This country has just hosted

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2012. Very scary. The other story, supermarkets want independent

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Scotland will pay more for food. Another foreign country if we're not

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careful. This is interesting because what is significant about this as

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it's the first time we have heard unnamed business organisation

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talking about the impact of independence. For various reasons,

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understandable, people are quite reluctant. Andy Murray doesn't want

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to say doesn't want to say doesn't want to see Scotland breakaway

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because he will get all sorts of flak from the Scottish Nationalists,

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but we have got various supermarket chains here, Tesco, Asda, Morrisons,

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Sainsbury's, adding their heads above the parapet and saying, look,

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at the moment, we factor in the extra transport costs for food and

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averaged across the UK. If Scotland goes independent, we will put up

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grocery prices and that's the kind of thing which will hit home. We

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will see a lot of headlines therefore the spokesman from the

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Scottish governance that was no reason for retail prices to rise,

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transferring the Panasonic to proposals for lower corporation tax

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and fuel duty as well. So thank you very much for that we have run out

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of time but we will be doing it again in one hour. Thank you both.

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But coming up next, on BBC News, it is Click.

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