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access to investigate China's Tibetan areas where there have been


allegations of human rights abuses `` Damian Grammaticas has rare


access. So, welcome to our look ahead to


what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me to do that are


some familiar faces, Nigel Nelson, the political editor of the Sunday


people and Mihir Bose, a columnist for the London Evening Standard Let


for the London Evening Standard. Let me take you through some of the


headlines on the front pages tomorrow. A black and white photo of


nozzle Mandela dominating the front page of the observer with the


headline that his body will lie in state in a Glass Coffin before he is


buried at the village where he grew up.


The Sunday Times talks about an 11% pay rise for MPs which it pricks


will be met with fury `` it predicts.


Soldiers are to face 11 more trials over Iraq deaths according to the


Sunday Telegraph according to human rights ruling.


The independent was my main photo highlights the slaughter of


Africa's elephants and the weather also makes room for a story on what


it says is the housing crisis facing the Tories.


Gentlemen, let's begin. We will start with the observer and Nelson


Mandela, as you would expect, still dominating front pages tomorrow. A


chance for the papers to dig out their own archives as well. Yes.


Here we have a portrait in the Observer from 1962 and the story now


is looking ahead to the funeral which is going to be a 10`day event.


We have got world leaders turning up in South Africa on Tuesday and then


the funeral proper which will not be until next Sunday. Lots of people,


Nigel, over the last couple of days have been describing him as the


greatest political leader of all time. Is that fair's that is a


long`time! I do think he was the greatest leader of the last century.


Because he became such an inspiration to every other political


leader. You have seen by the kind of tributes pouring out, just what


influence he had on them. There was a man who could knock on any world


leader's law and know that they would would open it # on any world


leader's door. He gave Tony Blair a hard time over Iraq and Tony Blair


tried to avoid him and for the most part, he could do anything, go


anywhere. I saw one of the statesman`like appearances he made


at the Labour Party conference and he was the biggest political


celebrity that anybody had ever seen there. A big piece for the Labour


Party, and for the audience, everything was focused on Nelson


Mandela. The outpouring has been global. I was reporting in


Parliament Square at the statue which he unveiled himself. There


were people there have never been to South Africa. I've never met him. ``


had never met him. He seems to touch many lives. It is hard to imagine


any other figure dying and there being a minute's silence at a


Premier League match. He united the world in quite a remarkable fashion.


Is that because he was an inspiration? He was an inspiring


person? I met him a year after he was released and taken to his Soweto


home and he understood remarkably well. He carried no bitterness. He


described how he had watched a test match in segregated seats you could


not approach the players and South Africa were playing Australia but he


dare not speak to the main Australian batsman because if you


spoke to them, he would be thrown out and he spoke without any


bitterness of the many call him Madiba and I think after the 27


years in prison, he emerged and he emerged at a time when perhaps our


views of the world's views on racial discrimination completely changed


and he created this rainbow nation without the violence. Everybody


predicted there would have to be violence, the Afrikaners would not


accept anything but he did all that and he was very good at reaching out


to people. You have lots of celebrity friends, lots of royal


friends `` he had lots of. The Sunday Times, one of the papers


tomorrow, looking ahead at the possible guest list for his


funeral. Also remembering that the Queen referred to him as her dear


friend. She will not be in attendance but the funeral is


causing a major problem. Because where it is taking place is in his


village in the Eastern Cape. It would be a security nightmare so


what seems to be happening and still being firmed up is that certainly


our political leaders, Ed Miliband and David Cameron, they will go to


the memorial service in the football stadium where the World Cup was held


in Johannesburg on Tuesday. It is looking increasingly unlikely they


will go to the funeral itself. Just to explain, this is where he grew


up. The open fields and other family members buried there. It really is a


working farm. Yes, and you will have his genuine friends going there so


Bill Clinton will be giving the address there. I think that seems to


be the idea. Bono as well. It could be tricky with that many people


there. A few of the Spice Girls as well. It is quite difficult to get


there as well. And Nelson Mandela came from royal stock. The play she


had come from. Presumably there will be a private burial ceremony. The


Sunday Times suggested there may be a traditional slaughter of a cow or


a sheep. A tribal ritual of which they have already been some. That


move onto other stories featuring on the front pages. Back to the


Observer now. This is a story now which looks ahead at Ed Miliband's


possible election team. And we seeing the return of new Labour?


This will cause a lot of fuss. It seems to be an internal memo that


the observer have managed to get their hands on. It is suggesting


that some of the bigwigs of new Labour, Alistair Campbell, Alan


Milburn, Peter Mandelson may be on their way back and will be advising


at the band during election time. Should this turnout to be true, ``


advising Ed Miliband during election time. How much should we read into


that? Alistair Campbell is good at his job. He does what he does. That


is the point. And so is Peter Mandelson. When it comes to winning


elections, Peter Mandelson is a master at that kind of thing.


Whatever the policies. They will have to do something tactical rather


than check Egypt. That is Ed Miliband's job. And we have seen a


shift to the left `` tactical rather than strategic. As long as they


don't surround with the policies, I can see them trying to help the


campaign. They are coming back because they have been successful


before so they know how to win elections. As opposed to what the


policies might be that may not be a tricky balancing act. They might not


support the policies. I will be surprised to keep them keep their


fingers out of the policies as well. Let's move on to the Sunday Times,


sticking with politics and how much politicians get paid. A lot of this


goes right back to the expenses scandal. But the argument with the


expenses scandal was that they do not get paid a lot. We have never


really worked out what they should be getting paid. If you look at what


they are paid in America, what we should compare with is what they pay


in other countries and what they were should be paid. Far too many


MPs act like local councillors. Should they be doing that? Their


role should be to look at the legislation, that make sure we have


good legislation. Do they have enough resources? That should be the


case. Hasn't the argument from the politicians being that they could


earn a heck of a lot more money not being politicians? Then they


shouldn't become politicians. They have their arguments. We could talk


about the BBC... I love my job, I would do it for free. Everybody has


had their salaries stamped on and the idea that politicians will lead


up from 66,000 two 74,000 will infuriate people. But it is right.


What should be pay our politicians? What happened under Margaret


Thatcher was that when they wanted a pay rise then, she said no, tell you


what, one a bit on your expenses `` put a bit on your expenses. And at a


time when people are losing jobs, being made redundant and not


receiving pay rises, the theory comes from that. And we do not


expect polishes Philip macro politicians to be respected. `` we


do not expect politicians to be respected. The Parliament standards


authority was brought in because of the fiddling of expenses so it is an


independent judgement. Maybe expenses claims will go down 11 .


There are losing golden handshakes and final salary pension schemes.


Onto the Sunday Telegraph. This is in reaction to a High Court ruling,


soldiers to face 11 more trials over Iraq deaths. Tell us more on this.


This is on the back of Sergeant Alexander Black who has been sent


down for ten years for murdering a wounded Taliban fighter. They are


now looking at 11 different deaths in Iraq in British hands. This will


result in 11 separate enquiries I result in 11 separate enquiries I


would imagine the army are feeling the league that all this is being


raised. We are going back now ten years to what happened in Iraq. But


if evidence is coming to light, that should be investigated, we have a


duty to do so. Equally, a huge number of Iraqi families fighting


for justice and it has taken that long. Yes, but the climate is


slightly different now. We have a soldier who has been sent to jail


for ten years for murder, that is focusing minds and we are now


looking at possible misdemeanours in the past. When we say we are morally


right, we have to show we are. When we have situations where a soldier


has killed someone like in this case, a wounded Taliban there has


got to a trial of some sort. Do you think lessons are learned from


trials like this? The Ivy capable of implementing fence to prevent abuses


of power. `` are they capable? It is difficult. So long as we do not do


what some other regimes do which is see that killing like this has not


happened. `` say. It will make a lot of people think twice before perhaps


doing something that they should not. We have run out of time. Thank


you for taking us through the papers. We will do it again in


around 25 minutes time. We will be looking at the papers just after 11


o'clock this evening. Coming up next, it is the Reporters, do not go


away. Welcome to the programme. I'm Zeinab


Badawi. In this week's programme: Inside China's Tibetan areas. Our


reporter looks at increasing revelations over human rights


abuses. There has been a clamp`down on monasteries and all aspects of




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