28/08/2014 The Papers

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

us tomorrow. With me are is Kate Devlin, political correspondent of

the Herald and live from Glasgow is Susan Stewart from Women for

Independence. Welcome to both of you and thank you for being with us.

Tomorrow's front pages. The Financial Times says David Cameron

is scrambling to restore order in his party after the defection of the

leading Tory Eurosceptic MP Douglas Carswell to UKIP. The express leads

with the same story, saying the move threatens to split the party. The

Daily Telegraph reports on the prospects of more MPs following Mr

Carswell to UKIP. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are pictured are as

they are on many front pages. The Guardian leads on the crisis in

Ukraine and the indications that hundreds of Russian troops are

involved. The Metro leads on the scandal in Rotherham and the report

that police try to disprove victim accounts. The Daily Mail says

Conservative MPs have talks with UKIP. The Times says David Cameron

is warned to brace himself for more defections in the coming months.

And, baking bad, the Sun focuses on the great British bake off and the

controversy over eight ruined baked Alaska. Rest assured, we will do the

Sun in a few minutes. We will kick off with the Daily Mail, leading

with the headline, eight more Tories in UKIP talks. Kick us off, Susan,

with the Tate on problems facing David Cameron and news of Douglas

Carswell's defection. Indeed, every political work in London will be

looking for others in the Tory party looking to defect and the Daily Mail

claims to have eight. This gets serious for the Prime Minister and a

guess the question is how he will respond. `` I guess. One wonders and

one worries if he will adopt tougher anti` European rhetoric and shift

the Tory party even further to the political right in relation to

Europe. Thereby, shifting political gravity again in Westminster and a

game creating a political culture. Particularly around Europe, which is

increasingly out of sync with the views of the Scots. It is a little

disappointing that none of the front pages or not many of the London

based front pages have analysed today's news in relation to

Scotland's referendum which is three weeks today, we will all have voted.

That seems astonishingly myopic in my view. Kate, one word in the

coverage. It goes on to talk about suggestions that nine Conservatives

have dined with the UKIP doughnut, Stuart Wheeler and that it might be

significant. `` donor. I think they were trying to persuade more. One

hell of a Kunar. It has come off. `` one hell of a coup. It has been a

difficult day for David Cameron and this raises all sorts of problems

going into the future, not least will the Conservative party start

obsessing about Europe again and tearing itself apart, but very

interesting to see that it doesn't seem as if, despite their

protestations and best efforts, the Conservatives have a handle on this

at the moment. Does Susan have a point about the Scottish view about

this? The interaction between the Scottish referendum and the EU

referendum has been incredibly interesting because it clearly

blindsided number ten and they weren't expecting it. They thought

it would be two separate issues and they thought the two would never

meet. `` Number Ten. They have had a lot of traction arguing the main

threat to Scotland's membership isn't independence, it is David

Cameron, which we will come to. Kate suggests that on the front page. I

had we come to that. We will. Scottish Premiership to the EU has

been debated during the referendum campaign with doubts in some circles

cast about how the relationship would be established if Scotland

vote yes `` Scottish membership. It was one of the early scare tactics

of the campaign towards the end of 2012. It has been resolved by the

slew of European experts who have said that actually, there would be

no problem and Scotland's population have been citizens of the European

Union for 40 years and there position would be relatively short

and the process would be relatively straightforward so, any traction

that it would have had at the beginning of the campaign, it has

been a long one, has dissipated and indeed, most people are beginning to

realise the safest way and best way of ensuring Scotland stays in the

European Union is a yes vote on September 18. Pro union politicians

would completely disagree, they would say it is not true. They would

admit they would have hoped to line it up with a win for them and the

fact that the issue has been muddied on this one isn't what they would

have hoped for. Let's move on because there is more to cover. The

front page of the times and while that leads with further domestic

politics there is a line about Russia and Ukraine `` Times. Kate, a

reference about what Nato are saying in Ukraine. Yes. They are taking a

strong line on this. This is interesting because of the dramatic

scenes we have seen in Ukraine today and the struggle that is happening

across the international community on how to deal with it. Nato is

particularly interesting because David Cameron is hosting in Newport

next week, a Nato summit, in which he said a couple of weeks ago that

he is hoping to convince them that more is needed is just a complete

change in Nato's relationship with Russia. His hand will be

strengthened by this. I think there will still be a lot of deep

negotiations in Wales next weekend. Let's stay with this story but move

onto the next newspaper, Susan, namely, the Guardian. The

interesting point about the headline is the worried, in faded, we have

been invaded, Kiev accuses Russia. That carries all sorts of legal

implications `` invaded. The Ukrainian President says further

down the story that Russian forces have entered Ukraine and Western

leaders said that there will be consequences. As yet, they are

undefined. One gets the sense that Nato and other Western leaders are

talking tough but I think that particularly the Prime Minister will

be conscious that Durm mood of the country will not be for any kind of

precipitous action, particularly after Iraq et cetera `` that the

mood. One gets the sense through the front pages of a rise in the

rhetoric without necessarily anyone being terribly clear what exactly

Nato should do. The United Nations were debating this tonight as well.

They were. Strong language there as well. From the American ambassador.

Before we move on, it was interesting, Kate, to see the press

conference with President Obama and he was asked if he regarded this as

an invasion. He came out with this strong language we have shown all

the headlines but he didn't repeat the word. He didn't. So far, no

world leader has. It will be interesting to see if they back up

here. They have been very strong about this. The Scottish Daily Mail

has a poll on independence. Union on a knife edge. Poll shock as yes camp

narrows gap to six points. I don't doubt, Susan, you are pleased by

that. I point out that you are still in second place on this. Yes. Is

this significant? What is your take ? It would back the trend in other

polls that the gap is tightening between the note and the yes

campaigns and undoubtedly, I am not sure when the fieldwork for this

poll was done, it was after the debate, and the first minister it

was said one big debate handsomely `` of the No campaign. It has not

been a great week. They had a broadcast out on Tuesday night that

was lampooned widely on social media and thought to be incredibly sexist

and located perhaps in the 1950s, in Don Draper land. Today, of course,

they had David Cameron's visit, which isn't wholly positive for the

No campaign. Not a good week. Certainly, the yes campaigners have

felt that the opinion polls have not been picking up the critical sector

of the population, those who have never voted before perhaps because

they thought it wasn't worth it and who, when the expressed an intention

to vote in the referendum, they will overwhelmingly vote Yes. Name on. It

will be very tight in September the 18th, even the Daily Mail says so ``

game on. Kate, came on? In some ways, yes. Three weeks ago. This is

too close to comfort for the No campaign. `` came on. It is

resetting it, taking it back to the same poll for the same newspaper one

month ago. It is suggesting the TV debates cancelled each other out.

That is interesting. What has happened is essentially that Alex

Salmond managed to end on a high. I don't know if Susan will agree.

Whether the momentum continues and whether a poll set next week shows

it is continuing, will be interesting. This is far too close

for what the pro union party would have wanted at this stage.

Especially when you compare it with six weeks ago, or two months ago,

when the mood in the No campaign was buoyant and we were reported... It

was reported that Labour and story were complacent and thought it was

done and dusted and it is clearly not. People don't always tell the

pollsters what they will end up doing in the actual confines of the

ballot, which is what is worth pointing out. We saw that in 2011.

We have seen it on a number of occasions in the last 20 years in

different elections. Tell us more Kate. This is a dramatic thing that

happened in Glasgow this evening. David Cameron went to speak to the

CBI to give basically a strong speech on the dangers of Scottish

independence to business and before he gave his speech, the president of

the CBI, sir Michael Rake, stood up and told the Prime Minister to his

face that the EU referendum that David Cameron has promised in 2017

was causing problems for business and it is very embarrassing `` Sir.

Not only does it fit into the issues that business have around this, but

it also feeds into the wider independence debate. It is

interesting, Susan, because you made reference only on to what you saw as

the contrasting view towards the EU in Scotland as a pose to the rest of

the UK and presumably you would argue that this story further

that narrative if you like. Absolutely. I think that the word

humiliation isn't too strong. Not in the Herald headline. If there is one

audience a Tory Prime Minister traditionally would have expected a

fairly warm welcome, it is the CBI. And, for the president of the CBI to

criticise a Tory Prime Minister in relation to Europe suggests the

scale of the urgent on matters European north and south of the

border. Not a good night for the Prime Minister and I am sure that

people in the No campaign will be licking their wounds and wondering

what else can go wrong this week. Says somebody from the Yes campaign

I should point out in the interest of maintaining a degree of balance

in this. Talking of balance, let's move on to the front of the Sun.

This is a fantastic headline. And, extraordinarily story. I encourage

you both as you tell it to throw lots of unleaded into what you are

about to tell me `` allegeds. Kate, tell us more. Taking bad. First of

all, this is a fantastic headline, taking bad. Who knew that date

Alaska could cause so much scandal. It is all about the bait off and the

episode they show the other night and Allah `` allegations of

sabotage. There were allegations of a stitch up. To be fair and I speak

someone as a Masterchef girl than a great British bait off, but the chap

who went to Alice Gatt collapsed and he said that he, under dirty diet,

are at best of chums. `` Dirty Di. It is self`referential and cheeky.

`` are the best of chums. It might be a wee bit of fuss over nothing in

terms of the Bake Alaska war. I love the complaints. Viewers complained.

When people call up they normally complain about TV. Apparently, he

was complained that the Bake Alaska was taken out of the other when it

should not have been. I think that it is great that people are so

caught up on this. Was it the other or the freezer? The freezer. I am

sorry. Stand corrected. The reason it collapsed was because it came out

of the freezer and he accused her of doing that and then it melted. Did

he? The ice cream melted but I'm not sure if he accused her of doing that

or if it were the viewers who thought she had done that because

certainly, today, he is quoted as saying they are the best of chums.

She says she was up. Yes. In the end,

wedding and good luck to them, I guess. I am claiming this is a great

old`fashioned local news story that emerged when he was at a museum in

Devon doing a junket for his latest film and it was noticed he was

wearing a wedding ring. So, someone spotted it. And, word got out. Hats

off to the person who spotted it. Time is up. Thank you very much

indeed for reviewing the front pages for us. Kate and Susan. Stay with us

on BBC News. At midnight, the latest on the political fallout following

the defection of Douglas Carswell to the UK Independence the. Coming up

now, it is time for Sportsday. `` UK Independent Party. In

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