30/01/2016 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

With me, Dawn-Maria France, Editor in Chief of Yorkshire Women's Life

magazine and James Martin, Executive Editor of Huffington Post

Cameron closes in on stop-gap EU deal? The paper is saying there is a

meeting tomorrow with Donald tusk, the President of the EU and they are

discussing the attempts to thrash out a deal to take control of the

migrant flow into Europe and also to discuss the benefit payments. But

the Euro-sceptics have said they dismissed the meeting and said that

the preelection pledge is dead in the water. So I think it's one of

those where we'll have to wait and see how it pans out. Yes. James,

manoeuvering beyond manoeuvering going on at the moment isn't there?

Yes, the line Number Ten are briefing out at the moment is that

Cameron wants an immediate block on payments the day after any vote.

It's either a mad panic from David Cameron to try and prove that he can

get the vote done potentially in June, maybe June 29 or June 23 are

the dates being currently looked at, or potentially prove he can't get it

done and we are going to have to wait until February or March next

year. He met with Jean-Claude Juncker on Friday. He's now going to

be dining with Donald Tusk tomorrow night, the EU President. One thing

is for sure about this, whatever David Cameron manages to get out of

this meeting, it's not going to be enough and the pre-briefing has

already been briefed again. It's very clear here that even if David

Cameron wins this concession, Euro-sceptics aren't happy. That is

the point isn't it, Dawn-Marie, that whatever he comes away with, some

will say it's not enough and critics say he's already been to bed off?

There is a ruling where he can put the breaks on the talks. The

emergency brakes? The emergency brakes. The Euro-sceptics are saying

that's not sufficient and they want to see more. I don't know if he

could get a deal because, if you look at it from one point of view,

you've got to look at the British nationals that go over to Europe.

They'll be subject to the same four-year benefit taking place, so

it's something that he needs to thrash out and he needs to satisfy

the voters because, on the doorstep, that is the thing coming up over and

over again. This is classic isn't it, the unintended consequences of

pushing one lever and all sorts of things happen that maybe you didn't

anticipate? Absolutely. What is really interesting here is the

politics of the way that this EU debate is coming down on at the

moment and you have the big beasts of the Tory party essentially

seemingly going to back the in-campaign. Boris Johnson is

hinting last week that he's going to back the campaign. It leaves Theresa

May as really the only big Cabinet Minister who hasn't declared her

hand yet. We know she's a big fan of the European arrest warrant, so

essentially it's looking like she might stay on the in-campaign which

leaves Chris Grayling as the only Cabinet Minister who may be fronting

the out campaign. It doesn't really seem to matter at the moment how

many out campaigns there are because obviously there are, what are we up

to now Adam, three or four different outcomes? Multiples, if we put it

that way. Another one last weekend didn't we? Yes, that is right. This

is either an in or out debate, it doesn't strike me as something that

even if the ad campaign come up with an argument that is going to matter,

just the same way as the other side come up with a good idea. The only

thing that will concern Number Ten is how many people vote, if it goes

under 60%, it's likely that those who vote will be the ones voting

out. That is the concern, can we get it above 50 or 60%. You nexted

migration at the start of this, which is clearly going to be one of

the defining principles of this debate. Here we go, front-page of

the Sunday Telegraph; migration crisis deepens. Another one of these

photographs. We have seen a few of these this year that looks almost

like a bit of art, all manner of things going on. Just give us a

run-down of how you read this story and also the background to it? There

are a number of stories in this, the march of the far right looking to

else scapegoat migrants, there's the drowning in Turkey, the EU

referendum and talking about looking at the migrant crisis and also the

Schengen agreement. We are now seeing Fortress Europe. There are

quite a few things going on in this story. What I would like to come on

to is the talks that took place with the UN Security Council when they

talked about the Road Map for Syria. A lot of these migrants are coming

from Syria and they talked about moving forward with plans to

actually look at moving Syria forward, but they didn't talk about

what they were going to do with Assad or Daesh. It frustrates me,

does the Syria question, so I think there's not joined up thinking. I

would like to see some sort of European solution to how we tackle

Syria because that is where the crisis is taking place. We need to

tackle that fundamentally and look at stopping people leaving that

country in desperate need. It's a really interesting point that

Dawn-Maria has made because 39 people killed in the Aegean sea

today off the back of 20 killed only a few days ago. You've got 224

migrants that have already drowned this year trying to make that

crossing. That is a huge number of people. Actually, 55,000 arrivals

into Europe already this year. That is a 35-fold increase from January

last year. This whole EU vote debate really hinges on this migration

crisis. The reason why Cameron wants to get this done soon, he's pushing

for the June deadline, is we don't know what will happen with the

crisis. It's only going to be seen to get worse as a political problem.

This photograph here is essentially the worst case scenario isn't it,

something that you feel like it could be a Banksy painting at some

point, it's such an amazing photograph, but what's happened here

in the shadow of the white cliffs of Dover is that this wasn't a protest,

this was always set out to be a brawl. You look at some of the

weapons seized here and no-one comes out of it looking well. Both sides,

you've got masked people, all dressed in black, I don't think

either side comes out looking particularly well. You have people

carrying cans of Strongbow here, lock knives, knuckle dusters, people

waving around poles and bits of wood and so on. It's the crisis at its

worst in many ways and this is actually in Britain, you know, this

isn't Stockholmes. Dawn-marine, you mentioned the whole cocktail of

issues that are in here and, from a media perspective, is that cocktail

going to be reflected in the coverage, or do you think it could

come down to just things like migration - good/bad. I think it's

migration and scapegoating as well, people looking to apportion blame

and the migrants are taking the blame for everything that is going

wrong. Also the march of the far right are looking to further their

claim to, it's the migrants coming over causing this, that and the

other, and a mix of David Cameron trying to resolve the issue. And

they need to look at, in the summer when the migrants come over, if the

EU referendum goes out, that could be disastrous. It will impact

clearly. Estimates upwards of two million attempting to make that

crossing trying to get into the EU. I mean, in the shadow of that, you

can understand why David Cameron wants to get this vote done sooner

rather than later. Lots of familiar topics in the Sunday papers, but

here is one that you will not have failed to miss. Have I got my double

negatives the right way around there? You didn't have to search

hard. The front-page, fury over Tory battle to protect Google's ?30

billion island tax haven. James, we have been hearing about ?130 million

tax bill, the stakes have gone up here? ! Bermuda sounds great this

time of year, regardless of whether it's a tax haven or not giving the

weather here. Since 2005 on about billions of profits. The debate here

is essentially what we are seeing played out on in fronts -- many

fronts, is there a legislative solution here? Unless every country

in the world will sign up to a deal to stop this corporation tax arms

race which seems to be going on at the moment, we have Linked-in,

Facebook, Google, they get the nice healthy tax rate. Lord Lawson has

been saying, you start taxing on sales but not profits, potentially

you might have a solution there because it's liking unlikely you are

going to get a global deal. The politics of this, I use Google

probably thousand of times every week. My bill from Google is zero.

And unless I'm a small business person of which there are many and

the backbone of the UK economy and 31st deadline coming up for your

assessment and you can guarantee if you don't get it done on time you

will probably get fined, I'm indifferent about it as being a

political issue. I don't know if it's going to hurt the Tories as

much as potentially everyone thinks it will. What do you think, if you

were Google, Barclays I remember getting pelted when they were the

first movers in paying up some banking fines, are we castigating

Google just because it's their name in the headlines when it could be

any number of other tech companies? That's true. I watched Prime

Minister's Questions on Wednesday, the debate between Cameron and

Corbyn and Corbyn discussed it and Cameron said under Labour they

didn't pay anything and at least they are paying something. My

argument is that small business, the background of the economy, they have

to pay their tax rates on time and I believe that maybe there needs to be

some sort of change in the law to make it equal. If they pay their

taxes late, they'll be penalised so it looks like an unequal balance

between big business and small business. But then it might be a

question of big businesses are too big to fail, which is a question

that's being stated a lot of the time and the sweetheart deal does

sound very conflicting. Too big to fail. We have heard that expression

before! For the moment, thank you very much and well done if you have

a self-assessment tax return to do and you've done it. Well done.

Thank you very much indeed to James and Dawn-marine who are back at 11.