29/01/2016 The Papers

Manchester United and Derby County. And another setback for many to a

lady -- Tualagi. Hello and welcome to our look

ahead to what the the papers With me are the Evening Standard

columnist Mihir Bose and Assistant The Times leads on a payout made to

eight Republicans who had their convictions for being part

of an IRA kidnap gang overturned. The Sun leads on the case of

Tareena Shakil, the first British woman found guilty

of being a member of IS. A new theory that Alzheimer's may

have been transmitted between patients during particular types of

surgery, that's the lead in the i. In the Telegraph,

the Head of the Army warns that fabricated legal claims made against

the military may cause soldiers to The Daily Mail leads

on comments made by a senior immigration judge that many migrants

in Calais are not genuine refugees. Hospitals are being told

by regulators to get rid of staff to rescue the NHS

from financial crisis, And the Independent leads

on comments by a World Health Organisation expert

that the Zika virus could travel across the Atlantic to Africa,

and even to parts of Europe. We will start with the Daily Mail.

Migrants, a judge who dared to tell the truth. He says that many in

Calais are not genuine refugees and they are after our benefits. This is

a judge who is considering the application of four refugees who

have siblings said to come to the country. He had granted them leave

to come to this country, but there were special circumstances, the

question of a possible mental disorder and disability. At the same

time, he has used a judgement to say that not everyone in the Calais

jungle can claim to be a refugee, that many are just migrants who see

a better life in this country and they want to leave France and come

to Britain, because Britain offers more. This raises the question, a

lot of people have discussed this in this country. Many refugees a

terrible situation, many are fleeing war, but many of the others are

piggybacking on the back of them, if you like, hoping to come to this

country because they think it offers a better life. Doesn't the

accusation that they are after benefits that Britain offers get

contradicted frequently by statistics that we net gain by

having immigrants and refugees here? We are in the middle of the

great philosophical argument as to whether refugees are phenomenal

source of capital, talent and employment, which is what Germany

thought when it brought in all those refugees, or as to whether they will

just be a drain on our services. It will be a debate that runs right

through to the referendum on EU membership. You are saying to me

earlier that you thought that migrants would be the issue, the

issue that decide the outcome of the vote. I think so. I think a lot of

people feel that they are losing their country, and that fear will be

played on by those who feel we should leave the EU. The question

will be, we are part of the EU, free movement of labour, so any number of

people from Europe can legitimately come. I think that will be a hard

line. As far as refugees are concerned, we are facing a situation

we have never faced before in Europe were a lot of refugees are coming

from another culture, that is one thing, and normally they come backed

by armies. These are poor and helpless refugees, most of them

fleeing war. How does Europe, which claims to be a humanitarian

continent, with great humanitarian traditions, how do we cope with

that? What the judge has raised and this is what the paper has

highlighted, in addition to those sterile are the refugees who are

economic migrants and they should be judged by different standards. Also

we are seeing great moral problems that Sweden is having, which was a

very welcoming country and is now turning the other way. It is an

extraordinary moment in our history, and people really want to

be kind but they feel that maybe they look as if they are mugs. There

are so many complex arguments rolling around. You mentioned the EU

referendum. The Daily Express headline, pathetic EU deal in chaos.

The PM is said to be under pressure, vowing to keep on fighting. Has a

deal being done? I think there has just been a lot of discussions. This

idea that the PM is saying that he wants to get rid of the idea that

people get something for nothing, it is merely under deliberation, this

idea. There has been no deal to put a brake on benefits for migrants at

all. This is in the Express, which is a paper that will argue that we

should leave the EU I think. We have had a feeling among those who want

to leave in the past few weeks that the PM and some of the other

ministers are already making the case for Europe, for us to stay, and

if you like this is the backlash argument coming up and saying, there

is no deal coming along, the PM can't get a deal good enough for us

to stay. How many more months doing have obvious? I'm trying to count

how many... How weary people will be the EU referendum by the time it

comes around. This debate will be longer than the one about whether

Louis van Gaal stays at Manchester United. Which we have all followed

as closely as you have. If you are in the Yes camp or the No camp, stay

or go, you have decided anyway, haven't you? I don't know whether

anyone is truthful about their voting intentions following the

general election. All these shy Tories, people who profess to great

socialist ideas, but when they get their finger in a polling booth a

vote Tory. I think there are quite a lot of people undecided, and I think

that politicians and all these warring sides need to realise that

the average person only turns on to politics for a few days around the

time of an election. Just as they get into the booth. I think it

depends on whether the younger people vote or not. If they do, we

will stay in. If it is mainly the older people, I think we might well

be out of the EU. That is my feeling, and I'm not a poster. Say

that recording and we will play it back and see if you were right.

Outrage pay-out for IRA gang. ?1.6 million reward as soldiers and the

tombs suffer. These are convictions that were quashed because there was

a secret agent involved in the defence were not told. There was

someone involved in the ranks of the IRA, and this was not to disclosed,

someone was kept kidnapped in the house. Now we come to the moment of

compensation, which seems to be a roundabout ?200,000 each are these

people, including a member of the IRA who famously said that power

would be grabbed with a ballot box and the Armalite. I sense an awful

lot of people will be quite disturbed and dismayed by this,

thinking, what about the compensation for people who have had

no redress for injuries from bombings, and also the ability of

lawyers to get money for people who have been found guilty? They were

only exploiting or following the rules, aren't they? They were

following the rules. They have changed, and prove that the crime

was not permitted, in order to overturn something. In this case,

that information was not disclosed. I think this reflects the fact that

we live in the compensation culture, that anybody who feels they have

been a victim of justice claims condensation. The other question is,

this has taken so long, some of these crimes were committed 25 years

ago. It does raise the question as to why it has taken so long. And

also about how much we know about the troubles, and what will always

remain secret in the relationship between the British government and

informants, and members of the IRA and informants. These Troubles will

haunt us for many decades to come. It is almost within families, that

is part of the problem. The Guardian has a picture of the daughter of

Aravindan Balakrishnan, who has been jailed for 35 years. She was

imprisoned by her father in south London for 30 years, and yet she

says she has forgiven him. I think this is a remarkable story. She says

she has forgiven her father, taking the advice of Nelson Mandela, who

said if you leave prison with anger and bitterness, you are still in

Britain. The fact that she has been willing to do that when the

temptation must have been very great not to come out and talk about it at

all, and also to come out and be very bitter about it... To think

this was a father who told her you must never leave the house because

there are fascist groups out there who are going to enslave you. And

not just for a few months or years, but for such a length of time. To

imagine the cruelty that this girl must have gone through. Apparently

she is a very bright woman, who was terrified of crossing the road

because she had never done it. She was told she would spontaneously

combust if she stepped outside and threatened the rule of law. This is

an important thing newspapers need to do to make people realise life is

worth living. To hold a people and say if she can put that kind of past

behind her, what can I do? I do think there will be a big emotional

response to this. This is a terrible family story of how this could

happen. And the amazing thing is that Balakrishnan still has some

women who say he is right and that he is the victim. The FT, Japan

enjoys the negative rates club, the move sparks surge in equities and

bonds, fears rise over China and of slowdown. This feels like deja vu

for Japan. This is an interesting headline because an awful lot of the

18 million savers in Britain will read that headline and think, there

have by the grace of God go where. People will think, what is the

difference between what I am receiving and negative rates? This

is Japan flailing around and trying to find ways of getting its economy

moving again, to deal with the problems of the fact that they have

a shrinking population, an ageing population, and to get people

spending. Whether this will overcome the natural habits of thrift, I'm

not sure. They must hope that if you have to pay to keep your money in

the bank, you might as well go out and shop. Of course, whether it

happens or not... Of course I think the implication of the FT leading on

this story is that we might see it happening here. Probably not in this

country, I don't think we need negative rates here. The ECB and the

Bank of England have said they are willing to shift their policy

stances as well, because they were heading towards rate rises. The

final story on the FT, Apple build a virtual reality unit in search of

the next tech platform. Who are they trying to outdo? An interesting

story. We may be at Pete iPhone. -- peak. Many people have got an iPhone

and maybe they didn't want one, so maybe people want to move onto

something else. I am told people will put virtual reality goggles on

to visualise pieces of furniture in their sitting room to see where they

would go. That we may watch news stories that way, read a news story

about Syria and then be in Syria. I put these on and I find it slightly

unnerving, but Apple is a very interesting company. They are

determined not to be left behind, they won't be the Sony of the 21st

century. They got left behind in technological innovation and Apple

is determined to be one step ahead. It sounds like they are trying to

build on something Google did with Google Glass, and Apple tend to do

that. They managed to perfect something that was invented by

someone else. Apple have a good habit of coming late to the party

and drinking the champagne. Or trying to do it. What an excellent

idea! That is what we would all like to do, wouldn't we? Apple is at the

vanguard of technology, I am so far behind... You are late adopter. I

think this thing about virtual reality, many people will be having

virtual reality goggles and then living their lives in our living

room? Is that how it will be? Apparently the boss of Apple think

it is really cool. What we can imagine the carpenters in here. That

is it for the Papers tonight, lovely to see you both, thank you very

much. Now, Sportsday.