30/01/2016 The Papers


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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me, Dawn-Maria France, Editor in Chief of Yorkshire Women's Life


magazine and James Martin, Executive Editor of Huffington Post


Cameron closes in on stop-gap EU deal? The paper is saying there is a


meeting tomorrow with Donald tusk, the President of the EU and they are


discussing the attempts to thrash out a deal to take control of the


migrant flow into Europe and also to discuss the benefit payments. But


the Euro-sceptics have said they dismissed the meeting and said that


the preelection pledge is dead in the water. So I think it's one of


those where we'll have to wait and see how it pans out. Yes. James,


manoeuvering beyond manoeuvering going on at the moment isn't there?


Yes, the line Number Ten are briefing out at the moment is that


Cameron wants an immediate block on payments the day after any vote.


It's either a mad panic from David Cameron to try and prove that he can


get the vote done potentially in June, maybe June 29 or June 23 are


the dates being currently looked at, or potentially prove he can't get it


done and we are going to have to wait until February or March next


year. He met with Jean-Claude Juncker on Friday. He's now going to


be dining with Donald Tusk tomorrow night, the EU President. One thing


is for sure about this, whatever David Cameron manages to get out of


this meeting, it's not going to be enough and the pre-briefing has


already been briefed again. It's very clear here that even if David


Cameron wins this concession, Euro-sceptics aren't happy. That is


the point isn't it, Dawn-Marie, that whatever he comes away with, some


will say it's not enough and critics say he's already been to bed off?


There is a ruling where he can put the breaks on the talks. The


emergency brakes? The emergency brakes. The Euro-sceptics are saying


that's not sufficient and they want to see more. I don't know if he


could get a deal because, if you look at it from one point of view,


you've got to look at the British nationals that go over to Europe.


They'll be subject to the same four-year benefit taking place, so


it's something that he needs to thrash out and he needs to satisfy


the voters because, on the doorstep, that is the thing coming up over and


over again. This is classic isn't it, the unintended consequences of


pushing one lever and all sorts of things happen that maybe you didn't


anticipate? Absolutely. What is really interesting here is the


politics of the way that this EU debate is coming down on at the


moment and you have the big beasts of the Tory party essentially


seemingly going to back the in-campaign. Boris Johnson is


hinting last week that he's going to back the campaign. It leaves Theresa


May as really the only big Cabinet Minister who hasn't declared her


hand yet. We know she's a big fan of the European arrest warrant, so


essentially it's looking like she might stay on the in-campaign which


leaves Chris Grayling as the only Cabinet Minister who may be fronting


the out campaign. It doesn't really seem to matter at the moment how


many out campaigns there are because obviously there are, what are we up


to now Adam, three or four different outcomes? Multiples, if we put it


that way. Another one last weekend didn't we? Yes, that is right. This


is either an in or out debate, it doesn't strike me as something that


even if the ad campaign come up with an argument that is going to matter,


just the same way as the other side come up with a good idea. The only


thing that will concern Number Ten is how many people vote, if it goes


under 60%, it's likely that those who vote will be the ones voting


out. That is the concern, can we get it above 50 or 60%. You nexted


migration at the start of this, which is clearly going to be one of


the defining principles of this debate. Here we go, front-page of


the Sunday Telegraph; migration crisis deepens. Another one of these


photographs. We have seen a few of these this year that looks almost


like a bit of art, all manner of things going on. Just give us a


run-down of how you read this story and also the background to it? There


are a number of stories in this, the march of the far right looking to


else scapegoat migrants, there's the drowning in Turkey, the EU


referendum and talking about looking at the migrant crisis and also the


Schengen agreement. We are now seeing Fortress Europe. There are


quite a few things going on in this story. What I would like to come on


to is the talks that took place with the UN Security Council when they


talked about the Road Map for Syria. A lot of these migrants are coming


from Syria and they talked about moving forward with plans to


actually look at moving Syria forward, but they didn't talk about


what they were going to do with Assad or Daesh. It frustrates me,


does the Syria question, so I think there's not joined up thinking. I


would like to see some sort of European solution to how we tackle


Syria because that is where the crisis is taking place. We need to


tackle that fundamentally and look at stopping people leaving that


country in desperate need. It's a really interesting point that


Dawn-Maria has made because 39 people killed in the Aegean sea


today off the back of 20 killed only a few days ago. You've got 224


migrants that have already drowned this year trying to make that


crossing. That is a huge number of people. Actually, 55,000 arrivals


into Europe already this year. That is a 35-fold increase from January


last year. This whole EU vote debate really hinges on this migration


crisis. The reason why Cameron wants to get this done soon, he's pushing


for the June deadline, is we don't know what will happen with the


crisis. It's only going to be seen to get worse as a political problem.


This photograph here is essentially the worst case scenario isn't it,


something that you feel like it could be a Banksy painting at some


point, it's such an amazing photograph, but what's happened here


in the shadow of the white cliffs of Dover is that this wasn't a protest,


this was always set out to be a brawl. You look at some of the


weapons seized here and no-one comes out of it looking well. Both sides,


you've got masked people, all dressed in black, I don't think


either side comes out looking particularly well. You have people


carrying cans of Strongbow here, lock knives, knuckle dusters, people


waving around poles and bits of wood and so on. It's the crisis at its


worst in many ways and this is actually in Britain, you know, this


isn't Stockholmes. Dawn-marine, you mentioned the whole cocktail of


issues that are in here and, from a media perspective, is that cocktail


going to be reflected in the coverage, or do you think it could


come down to just things like migration - good/bad. I think it's


migration and scapegoating as well, people looking to apportion blame


and the migrants are taking the blame for everything that is going


wrong. Also the march of the far right are looking to further their


claim to, it's the migrants coming over causing this, that and the


other, and a mix of David Cameron trying to resolve the issue. And


they need to look at, in the summer when the migrants come over, if the


EU referendum goes out, that could be disastrous. It will impact


clearly. Estimates upwards of two million attempting to make that


crossing trying to get into the EU. I mean, in the shadow of that, you


can understand why David Cameron wants to get this vote done sooner


rather than later. Lots of familiar topics in the Sunday papers, but


here is one that you will not have failed to miss. Have I got my double


negatives the right way around there? You didn't have to search


hard. The front-page, fury over Tory battle to protect Google's ?30


billion island tax haven. James, we have been hearing about ?130 million


tax bill, the stakes have gone up here? ! Bermuda sounds great this


time of year, regardless of whether it's a tax haven or not giving the


weather here. Since 2005 on about billions of profits. The debate here


is essentially what we are seeing played out on in fronts -- many


fronts, is there a legislative solution here? Unless every country


in the world will sign up to a deal to stop this corporation tax arms


race which seems to be going on at the moment, we have Linked-in,


Facebook, Google, they get the nice healthy tax rate. Lord Lawson has


been saying, you start taxing on sales but not profits, potentially


you might have a solution there because it's liking unlikely you are


going to get a global deal. The politics of this, I use Google


probably thousand of times every week. My bill from Google is zero.


And unless I'm a small business person of which there are many and


the backbone of the UK economy and 31st deadline coming up for your


assessment and you can guarantee if you don't get it done on time you


will probably get fined, I'm indifferent about it as being a


political issue. I don't know if it's going to hurt the Tories as


much as potentially everyone thinks it will. What do you think, if you


were Google, Barclays I remember getting pelted when they were the


first movers in paying up some banking fines, are we castigating


Google just because it's their name in the headlines when it could be


any number of other tech companies? That's true. I watched Prime


Minister's Questions on Wednesday, the debate between Cameron and


Corbyn and Corbyn discussed it and Cameron said under Labour they


didn't pay anything and at least they are paying something. My


argument is that small business, the background of the economy, they have


to pay their tax rates on time and I believe that maybe there needs to be


some sort of change in the law to make it equal. If they pay their


taxes late, they'll be penalised so it looks like an unequal balance


between big business and small business. But then it might be a


question of big businesses are too big to fail, which is a question


that's being stated a lot of the time and the sweetheart deal does


sound very conflicting. Too big to fail. We have heard that expression


before! For the moment, thank you very much and well done if you have


a self-assessment tax return to do and you've done it. Well done.


Thank you very much indeed to James and Dawn-marine who are back at 11.


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