02/06/2016 The Papers


02/06/2016

Similar Content

Browse content similar to 02/06/2016. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will bring us tomorrow.

:00:17.:00:26.

Our guests this evening are Henry Bonsu and Kieran Dixon former Trade

:00:27.:00:31.

Minister Lord Digby Jones. Nice to see you both. Front pages, starting

:00:32.:00:37.

with the Metro, dedicating its front page to be HS going into liquidation

:00:38.:00:41.

with the expected loss of 11,000 jobs. The FT goes with the same

:00:42.:00:47.

lead. The Daily Express goes with a health story, reporting that doctors

:00:48.:00:51.

now believe are obese people with type two diabetes can quadruple

:00:52.:00:56.

their chances of survival with weight loss surgery. The Guardian

:00:57.:01:00.

focuses on David Cameron asking the UK not to commit self harm by

:01:01.:01:09.

leaving be you. The Daily Mail says the UK is failing to expel foreign

:01:10.:01:13.

criminals and this has undermined the case for Britain to remain in

:01:14.:01:18.

the EU. The Daily Mirror claims boxing legend Muhammad Ali has been

:01:19.:01:21.

rushed to hospital after suffering from breathing problems. Let's start

:01:22.:01:27.

with a famous name on the high Street, 88 years in business and now

:01:28.:01:30.

British home stores has gone into liquidation. Here it is on the

:01:31.:01:35.

Metro. The shutters finally come down on BHS. We have heard a lot of

:01:36.:01:40.

people, Digby, saying they are sorry to see it closing, but we are

:01:41.:01:47.

shocked. The significance of the liquidation is overplayed in the

:01:48.:01:59.

press. These people's jobs are no more or less insecure than

:02:00.:02:02.

yesterday. The differences, it is an admission that no one wants to buy

:02:03.:02:08.

it, so no longer will it be a going concern, no longer can somebody say

:02:09.:02:11.

they will pay money and buy a business that opens every day, so

:02:12.:02:14.

there is an admission that no one wants it. The problem you have is

:02:15.:02:20.

how much of this is a commentary on the world going past BHS. Dear one

:02:21.:02:25.

Woolworths went? What it was about was that the product, the offering,

:02:26.:02:30.

people didn't want any more, and if that is the case, the best thing we

:02:31.:02:36.

can do with 11,000 people is put the effort into Skillings and finding

:02:37.:02:39.

the mother worked rather than saying, this is dreadful and we

:02:40.:02:43.

ought to keep BHS open, because it is probably the offering to the

:02:44.:02:48.

public is what they want to buy. Even if that is the case there have

:02:49.:02:52.

been criticisms of previous owners and how they have treated them, lack

:02:53.:02:58.

of investment, taking money out. Especially when you consider the

:02:59.:03:01.

person who became a billionaire when he bought be HS 16 years ago, Sir

:03:02.:03:06.

Philip Green, he was a darling of a number of newspapers, seen of the

:03:07.:03:11.

great British buccaneer of the high Street. Some people including Labour

:03:12.:03:16.

MP Frank Fielding want to drag him before select committees, I think is

:03:17.:03:20.

going before one in parliament and a couple of weeks, and I sat -- some

:03:21.:03:24.

people are floating the idea of removing him. We will be in violent

:03:25.:03:31.

agreement about this, but you are mixing up two things. One thing is,

:03:32.:03:35.

11,000 people out there who tomorrow morning are working for a company

:03:36.:03:41.

nobody wants to buy its products, therefore the whole issue should be,

:03:42.:03:45.

how do we find work for 11,000 people. That is different from how

:03:46.:03:50.

did we get here. We are looking at the coverage area, it is the paper

:03:51.:03:56.

reviews. Let's look at the FT. Last-ditch efforts fail to save BHS,

:03:57.:04:01.

fruitless scrabble to find a buyer. On the point of how people behave

:04:02.:04:06.

when they buy companies, surely it should be against the law to take so

:04:07.:04:13.

much money out that the future of that company is imperilled. Except

:04:14.:04:18.

of course. If you have this amount of profit you have made and it is in

:04:19.:04:23.

the company called reserves, you are entitled as a shareholder to eat

:04:24.:04:26.

into the reserves as long as you can pay the debts. You Anae can argue

:04:27.:04:33.

about whether that is morally right or what it does to the stability of

:04:34.:04:38.

the business, but the concept of it being illegal, no matter how morally

:04:39.:04:42.

we might have a view, you have to be very careful. Indeed we must but we

:04:43.:04:48.

talk about being ethical, we hold summits in this country on

:04:49.:04:55.

corruption, we preach on it... What I am saying is, the brand of Britain

:04:56.:04:59.

and business and ethics is famous throughout the world so we need to

:05:00.:05:05.

hold ourselves to a high standard. Business people in this country need

:05:06.:05:09.

to. But if you own the company you only assets in it. Including the

:05:10.:05:14.

people, it would appear. There are two distinct things here. Yesterday,

:05:15.:05:19.

the people running it say, no one wants to buy this business, 11,000

:05:20.:05:24.

good people will lose their jobs. Let's have a maximum effort to try

:05:25.:05:28.

to find the mother work. That is a different argument to, how did we

:05:29.:05:35.

get here. In the first bit, that is what the paper review is about. The

:05:36.:05:39.

second bit, how did we get here, I am in agreement with you, we have to

:05:40.:05:44.

be careful about using certain words. I am pulling back... The

:05:45.:05:50.

people who buy large did nothing illegal, although morally there is a

:05:51.:05:54.

big issue. The question is, what should the select committee be able

:05:55.:05:59.

to do. They will ask questions Philip Green and Dominic Shepherd. I

:06:00.:06:04.

have appeared before a select committee, the people asking

:06:05.:06:08.

questions don't knows much as you do so they grandstand and try to ask

:06:09.:06:14.

questions that say, look at me, whereas the people being questioned

:06:15.:06:18.

now the subject. The real sport would be, will Philip Green keep his

:06:19.:06:26.

temper. Will presses buttons? We have to move on, I'm so sorry! Let's

:06:27.:06:31.

look at the Guardian, Cameron, let us not roll the dice on Britain,

:06:32.:06:35.

voting to leave the EU would be economic self harm, the Prime

:06:36.:06:39.

Minister insists. Angela Merkel also, saying, if you want to change

:06:40.:06:45.

the rules on how the EU operates, staying. She is making it very clear

:06:46.:06:50.

that although Brexit supporters say the Germans want to sell BMW to us,

:06:51.:06:56.

the French sell champagne to us, there is no way they will wreck good

:06:57.:07:00.

established relationships over decades. Angela Merkel is saying

:07:01.:07:05.

clearly, you might find it very chilly outside the European Union,

:07:06.:07:08.

so don't be foolish. Cameron is echoing that in the first of the set

:07:09.:07:16.

piece discussions on sky earlier this evening, and Faisal Islam was

:07:17.:07:21.

the presenter, really pushing him hard on the issue of migration, and

:07:22.:07:27.

also project fear, and apparently Cameron came unstuck on the issue of

:07:28.:07:32.

keeping immigration down to the tens of thousands. I am quite pleased

:07:33.:07:39.

that the Prime Minister, for once, hasn't often does death of the

:07:40.:07:43.

first-born, plague of frogs and blood in the street if we leave the

:07:44.:07:50.

EU. He is finally being asked to address certain issues. I did say,

:07:51.:07:55.

the Prime Minister behaving in a statesman-like fashion, which I

:07:56.:07:58.

think has been lacking. The other side have been doing much the same

:07:59.:08:02.

sort of stuff. What I find interesting is, I am worried about

:08:03.:08:08.

this nation hitching its wagon to a train that is marching towards 1917.

:08:09.:08:17.

In Asia's century, I don't see much reform in Europe. Some people like

:08:18.:08:20.

me are saying, I don't want to leave it but I wanted to reform. For my

:08:21.:08:25.

grandchildren's sake I am beginning to think it should be right to come

:08:26.:08:30.

out. What Cameron is saying, for your grandchildren's circuit would

:08:31.:08:33.

be right to stay in. I think the long-term issue is the one not being

:08:34.:08:37.

talked about. I think economic turbulence will happen and I believe

:08:38.:08:41.

Europe is not competitive, but it is what will happen 30 years down the

:08:42.:08:45.

line. The trouble is, that you can't deal with that. I can't forecast in

:08:46.:08:51.

the morning, nor can the Treasury. I am so sorry, there is too much to

:08:52.:09:01.

talk about! I am trying to be rational about those. The Daily

:09:02.:09:07.

Mail, we fail to deports... Human rights being blamed here, Digby,

:09:08.:09:13.

there is a mechanism for deporting criminals. The issue, in the text

:09:14.:09:18.

they do with the issue quite well, the problem is always with this sort

:09:19.:09:22.

of newspaper, the headline has little to do with the merits of the

:09:23.:09:31.

case. They are saying, you have at the moment the right for people to

:09:32.:09:33.

come into Europe without defence. Some will be criminals. If they

:09:34.:09:36.

commit a certain crime there is in place in agreement, you can deport

:09:37.:09:40.

them, and we have 5000 people walking around in the communities

:09:41.:09:43.

who have already committed offences, waiting to go home. You can blame

:09:44.:09:49.

Brussels for a lot but you cannot blame Brussels for this. This is

:09:50.:09:53.

about the UK Government, and I guess it is all parties, and they are

:09:54.:09:58.

saying, we can deport you but we haven't got round to it yet. That is

:09:59.:10:05.

not Europe's fault. Exactly. We are not going to agree again?! These

:10:06.:10:12.

people are sewn dangerous, surely you don't release them from prison

:10:13.:10:17.

until you are ready to deport them. You release these people unlicensed

:10:18.:10:21.

because you think they are no longer dangerous, you call them back if you

:10:22.:10:25.

think they have breached the terms of their licence. If you think they

:10:26.:10:29.

shouldn't be in Britain you should hold them until deportation. They

:10:30.:10:35.

are dealing with 5789 living in the community. I was going to throw

:10:36.:10:45.

water on you! The Times, page two, hospital delays leave thousands

:10:46.:10:49.

waiting outside in ambulances. I am one of these people who say

:10:50.:10:51.

obviously the NHS needs more money but can we have the money better

:10:52.:10:57.

spent, more efficiently. I don't mean privatisation, I just mean,

:10:58.:11:02.

everybody knows this, it is just no one will say it, a lot of the money

:11:03.:11:07.

in the NHS is wasted. The system so often doesn't deliver, not that

:11:08.:11:10.

there is not enough money because often it needs more money, not that

:11:11.:11:16.

wit hasn't got good people, it has, the system isn't right. In this

:11:17.:11:22.

article you have three different people from vested interests saying

:11:23.:11:26.

the same thing, the reason this is happening is beds are full, beds are

:11:27.:11:30.

full because too often we have linked up there with social care so

:11:31.:11:33.

there is not enough in the community to get them out there, secondly we

:11:34.:11:38.

have a bad system in the way we get them in, people wait, and thirdly

:11:39.:11:42.

there isn't enough money. Those things together, I thought this

:11:43.:11:44.

article was fair because you have people from vastly different areas

:11:45.:11:51.

talking about this. Let's quote Norman Lamb the former Lib Dem came

:11:52.:11:56.

minister, a very serious sky in this area, and says we are projected to

:11:57.:12:00.

spend a reducing percentage of our national income on health, so even

:12:01.:12:05.

though people like Digby complain about too much waste, we have to

:12:06.:12:09.

spend money to get the system right, and every government that comes in

:12:10.:12:13.

reconfigure the system. It takes four or five years to bedding and we

:12:14.:12:16.

change it every time we have a new government, that is part of the

:12:17.:12:21.

problem. It is persistent, not the money. It is both, I know a bit

:12:22.:12:26.

about this, it is both. I am questioning what I have just heard?

:12:27.:12:38.

How much longer have I got? Three minutes. Crikey, we could have

:12:39.:12:40.

carried on talking about something else. Not to worry. There is a link

:12:41.:12:48.

between this and Brexit. Your people claim... Hold your breath! The

:12:49.:12:54.

Brexit supporters say if we leave the European Union, that ?350

:12:55.:12:59.

million a week that we currently sent to the EU, a significant

:13:00.:13:03.

proportion can be spent on improving the NHS. That is what their election

:13:04.:13:08.

broadcast was about two nights ago. If you engaged brain before... Oh!

:13:09.:13:16.

OK! On the Brexit bus they have this thing on the NHS and I think they

:13:17.:13:24.

are wrong to do it. Hello! Just because a view conflicts with yours,

:13:25.:13:30.

why are you derogatory about it? Stop! Time out! We're going to move

:13:31.:13:36.

on. I am going to move the song, Digby. Digby thinks he is

:13:37.:13:41.

presenting! He's not the only one who comes on here and behaves in

:13:42.:13:45.

this fashion, but he is always so smartly dressed. The Financial

:13:46.:13:50.

Times, the gender pay gap starts young as boys force a better deal on

:13:51.:14:00.

pocket money, Henry. Who knew indeed, this 12% difference in the

:14:01.:14:03.

current round, so boys receive an average of ?6.93 per week, versus

:14:04.:14:08.

girls getting ?6 16 per week. As with use, so with adults, because we

:14:09.:14:14.

know there is a pay gap between women and men, and apparently boys

:14:15.:14:18.

are more abstract Brezovan girls... I find that difficult to believe.

:14:19.:14:22.

Can you imagine Digby asking his parents for more money? Does the

:14:23.:14:28.

article suggests we should get girls to practice asking for more money

:14:29.:14:33.

when they are little? It is a good point in that respect,

:14:34.:14:35.

assertiveness, self-respect and self esteem are some of the biggest

:14:36.:14:40.

barriers to improvement in the job market, and using education

:14:41.:14:43.

properly, because people don't feel they can because they don't have

:14:44.:14:48.

that... Or assertiveness. Assertiveness in women is

:14:49.:14:53.

interpreted differently from that of men. What is important is if in the

:14:54.:14:57.

domestic, trusted environment of pocket money, if you could get a

:14:58.:15:02.

young woman to start thinking intensive, I am worth it, then

:15:03.:15:05.

possibly in the job market in years to come that filters through to a

:15:06.:15:11.

better and more balanced society. Or it might be that parents and

:15:12.:15:15.

employers are sensitive enough to be issued having been on training to

:15:16.:15:18.

spot this, and if they see a young woman not raising her hands... I

:15:19.:15:26.

think I need to go home and reassess what pocket money everybody gets! I

:15:27.:15:32.

lacked for your daughters. She will be very pleased! That's it for you

:15:33.:15:38.

didn't -- for tonight. You can see a detailed review of the papers seven

:15:39.:15:42.

days a week on our website. You can see us thereto with each night's

:15:43.:15:49.

edition posted on the page shortly after each addition. Thank you,

:15:50.:15:53.

Henry and Digby, it's always good fun. Coming up next, it's the

:15:54.:15:56.

weather. Once again on the weather front

:15:57.:16:11.

today it was a case of all of nothing. You either had clear blue

:16:12.:16:16.

skies and sunshine across many western areas

:16:17.:16:17.

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS