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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
You both sat upright then... LAUGHTER. | :00:19. | :00:29. | |
We knew that we were on telly and thought we had better look our best. | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
With me are the broadcaster, John Stapleton, and the former | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
It is nice to have you both here. Thank you. | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
But first let's have a quick look at some of the front pages, | :00:41. | :00:48. | |
which are almost all focus on the EU Referendum. | :00:49. | :00:50. | |
The Telegraph reports that Boris Johnson has used a letter | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
in the paper to call on voters to seize a once-in-a-lifetime | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
The Times reveals that Baroness Warsi, a former co-chair | :00:57. | :01:05. | |
of the Conservative Party, will announce that she is abandoning | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
Brexit and defecting to the Remain campaign in protest at what she has | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
described as its "hate and xenophobia." | :01:12. | :01:12. | |
The Guardian leads with the news we have been covering tonight. | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
The Prime Minister using an appearance on Question Time | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
to invoked the memory of Winston Churchill as he delivered | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
an impassioned plea for EU membership. | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
The Financial Times says that David Cameron invoked the memory | :01:24. | :01:31. | |
of the murdered Labour MP, Jo Cox, to press the case for Britain | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
staying in the EU during that Question Time appearance. | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
The Daily Mail sees it differently, saying the David Cameron | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
was subjected to a live TV mauling over his failure to curb EU | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
The Express claims that every family could be hit with a ?2,600 tax bill | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
The paper says that European Union is opposed to the UK charging zero | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
The Sun goes with Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn's comments this | :01:57. | :02:03. | |
morning that there can be no upper limit on the number of people coming | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
into the UK while there is free movement of labour in the EU. | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
And the Mirror meanwhile splashes on what it says is the first picture | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
of a pensioner who tried to save MP Jo Cox before her death. | :02:14. | :02:24. | |
So, we will begin this time with the Times, and since we were last on a | :02:25. | :02:33. | |
it has changed its headline. Exit camp divided as senior Tory walks | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
out. Gove and Farage accused of spreading hatred. And Baroness | :02:40. | :02:50. | |
Warsi, communities minister, now a peer in the House of Lords. She had | :02:51. | :02:59. | |
started off as a Leaver and with what happened in the last couple of | :03:00. | :03:00. | |
days and weeks it appears that she days and weeks it appears that she | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
has had a change of heart. To be fair I would call it a non- | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
defection- defection because we would have thought she was always a | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
Remainer, so it is desperate stuff, trying to invent a defector. What we | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
know for sure is Lord Guthrie, former head of the armed forces, he | :03:21. | :03:29. | |
has defected to leave and he is now an Brexiter. I don't think this | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
rings true. She left in 2014 saying she couldn't support the decision on | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
the conflict. It is powerful. She is accusing Michael Gove in her words | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
of peddling lies and xenophobia and I think she has in mind... There are | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
three that David Cameron has identified. The EU cost ?300 | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
million. It doesn't. We get half of it back. There will be an EU army, | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
well it won't be happening. And Turkey will join the EU. Well, maybe | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
one day but not within my lifetime. I think that is what she is talking | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
about. Whatever she is talking about, it is a non- defection | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
defection because most people would have always thought she was a | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
Remainer. What people were saying is, why are we paying ?10 billion to | :04:22. | :04:29. | |
an organisation? We are actually paying 62 billion in trade deficits. | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
People would say we are not having our sovereignty and we need to keep | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
control of Allah borders. We are talking stories either way -- our | :04:38. | :04:46. | |
borders. Why would she say she was the final straw and can't support it | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
if it's not a defection? Because most of us would have had her down | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
as a Remainer. But what she thinks she is and says she is... We have | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
quotes of her as a Remainer. Maybe she has changed. We are not sure | :05:01. | :05:05. | |
about her. Boris said he wanted to stay in. He would decide to leave if | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
Cameron didn't get the right reforms. To be fair, people would | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
have said they don't know which side of the argument to be on and they | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
will look at what he brings back as a deal and then people have said, | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
actually, there is no deal. We still have freedom of movement. We still | :05:23. | :05:25. | |
want. We haven't got sovereignty. want. We haven't got sovereignty. | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
People said he didn't bring anything back. The sovereignty argument is | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
interesting. We choose to belong to Nato and the UN. We choose to belong | :05:35. | :05:45. | |
up until now to the EU. So all of our sovereignty has gone but we | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
decide to belong to bigger organisations because we think that | :05:49. | :05:53. | |
on balance it is worth doing. We are saying, who makes the laws? You have | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
unelected commissioners making the laws. They are commissioners we | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
send, just as all the others. They have to be approved. They are not | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
elected and we cannot get rid of them as we do in this country. 50% | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
of the laws are coming from Europe. That is not true. Something like 2% | :06:15. | :06:22. | |
of our laws in this country are from the EU. We send MEPs who vote on | :06:23. | :06:30. | |
policies brought down from the commission. Laws are introduced by | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
people who are not elected by us and we cannot get... We agree on that. | :06:34. | :06:43. | |
The point is MEPs vote on it. They can have a vote on it to tinker them | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
but they are not introducing them. The commission introduces laws at | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
the request of the member states. Having been there for several years | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
and watching the process that goes through, I would say it is bordering | :06:56. | :07:05. | |
on to the least worst option as 28 countries cobbled together laws. We | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
think it is right in saying that it is diminishing our democratic | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
process here and that is a huge part of the issue. Get a word in, John. | :07:17. | :07:25. | |
It does claim to be a Brexit, it was a Brexit, and she was in the | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
remaining camp, and she says she has left because of the UKIP poster | :07:31. | :07:37. | |
issued on Friday showing a stream of people coming with the headline, | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
breaking point. Most people didn't agree with that. It is on the Metro. | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
The implication that they were coming into Britain. They were | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
Syrians going to Slovenia. George Osborne said today it was vile and | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
disgusting and Nigel Farage is battling to defend it. Everyone else | :07:55. | :08:00. | |
has said it was wrong and misguided. They said they shuddered. We must be | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
able to talk about immigration. That was misguided without doubt. It was | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
only a one-day poster. He will have another one tomorrow. Well, he has | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
to say that. In the Metro he says he is a victim of political hatred. I | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
don't follow that. I heard him say it earlier, we have to be careful | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
about this, I think he was saying that had it not been for the | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
unfortunate murder of Jo Cox he would have been put through the | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
ringer over that poster. People can understand what I mean over that. | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
That was one of his lines of defence and whether you agree is another | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
thing. I thought it was a vile thing to do. They are not EU migrants. | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
They asked Syrians. They have no idea of Britain. He came out and | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
said it was wrong, the tone was wrong - mistake. Michael Gove | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
distance himself too. The Daily Mail, PM's TV mauling over | :08:58. | :09:01. | |
migration. A mixed reaction to his performance. Some thought he did | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
well and was impassioned, others thought he began to rant. I missed | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
the first few minutes. Esther said it was a game of two halves. I saw | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
35 minutes and I thought the audience was really good and feisty | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
with intelligent questions and they were not letting him off the hook. I | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
thought he coped quite well. What got him going was a reference to | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
someone saying he was a modern day Neville Chamberlain with | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
paper that he waves in front of us. We all know that it is a European | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
dictatorship that can put the paper in the bin. That got him going, | :09:37. | :09:42. | |
talking about Churchill. He said he didn't give in and we shouldn't get | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
in. This is what we were talking about before, the democracy having | :09:48. | :09:50. | |
what you thought you have got, he came back and said... Neville | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
Chamberlain, waving this piece of paper with what you have thought you | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
had got and it actually isn't, you think you have got it but those 27 | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
other countries can turn against you. You have brought back nothing. | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
Marks out of ten, what would you give him for that performance? You | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
saw it all. I thought the second half was much better. He was much | :10:14. | :10:21. | |
stronger on that answer. But I think... He looked anxious in the | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
first half. Oh, really? I don't think there was anything new. He | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
would be anxious. I have to say, when you are doing those debates, | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
they are nerve-racking. Obviously he has placed his credibility and | :10:37. | :10:38. | |
belief on the line. He didn't sparkle. And the polls are neck and | :10:39. | :10:46. | |
neck with a search, if you believe them, towards the Remain camp. The | :10:47. | :10:55. | |
Sun - we just can't keep them out. Oh, dear. Jeremy Corbyn admitting it | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
would be impossible to put any limit on EU migrants if the country votes | :11:01. | :11:06. | |
remain. Well, he has it right. There is no argument. If the country votes | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
to leave, but the negotiations take place for us to remain as trading | :11:13. | :11:20. | |
partners, a bit like Norway or Switzerland, they would still be the | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
same freedom of movement issues. That is untrue. Like they have their | :11:25. | :11:31. | |
own agreement, we would then have our agreement. Some of those | :11:32. | :11:33. | |
countries asked for more immigration to go to them because that was part | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
of it, they wanted that. We would look at it and said, what do we want | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
and not want? You can't compare the UK agreement with someone else's | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
agreement -- say. For the first two years, not too much would be | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
happening. And because we've got most things in place it would be a | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
pretty quick deal. And it would be because most exports are coming to | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
the UK. If we leave the EU, the UK is Europe's biggest single export | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
market. Of course we can negotiate. Why would the 27 members make it | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
easy for Britain to leave and strike a deal easily when they would tell | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
us that we are at the back of the queue? They are selling more to us. | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
We are on a 62 billion deficit each year with them. That's why they | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
would make it easier. They argue in more from us. Back to the story from | :12:27. | :12:32. | |
the Sun, briefly, it is interesting because of the impact it will have | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
on Labour Party support and support for members because don't forget | :12:38. | :12:40. | |
John McDonald has said we should be campaigning for reform of movement | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
of labour and so on. It never happened. Arguably, these remarks | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
from Jeremy Corbyn, they are damaging to Labour and the Remain | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
cause because it highlights what is a fact. We are trying to hide behind | :12:56. | :13:02. | |
this and he has told the truth. There is nothing we can do if we | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
remain. What the others say is we have tried to negotiate but we | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
can't. It never happened. The Daily Express, EU tax rate on Britain. The | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
soaring cost of staying in is revealed as PM is heckled on TV. By | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
some. I mean, they did laugh, I mean, at the Prime Minister. This is | :13:25. | :13:33. | |
because Brussels stone like Britain charging zero cut rate VAT on some | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
items -- Brussels don't like. All the papers have their position on | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
Remain or Leave and quite rightly they have a story that suit their | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
cause. The Daily Mail is very much to Leave. The Express is to leave. | :13:48. | :13:55. | |
This is a story which is quite true, it is quite possible that the EU | :13:56. | :14:02. | |
would scrap... We currently have a zero rate of VAT on certain items. | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
They could change it. No one is saying it. No one is saying we would | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
do this. It is theoretically possible. No one is quoted as saying | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
it would happen. They are saying the VAT is an EU tax and it is what they | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
control, so whereas George Osborne and David Cameron said we have | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
negotiated so sanitary towels for women can be zero rate of tax rather | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
than 5%, they haven't got it, but if they should in future want more | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
money from the UK, the way they would go about it is no doubt | :14:34. | :14:36. | |
through VAT. Just like last year... (CROSSTALK). Last year it was | :14:37. | :14:43. | |
November, 2014, they decided the UK had too much of a black economy, so | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
they took ?1 billion from us. This is how to do it. They could do it | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
but there is no plan to do it currently. They took 1 billion from | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
us the other year like that. We will see. That is all I can say. We could | :14:57. | :15:02. | |
carry on but I think we've got to go. The taxi is here. Thank you very | :15:03. | :15:08. | |
much, Esther and John. Lovely to see you both. | :15:09. | :15:10. | |
Coming up next, it's The Film Review. | :15:11. | :15:13. |