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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment.

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David Cameron has made the case for Britain remaining in the EU.

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He told a BBC Question Time special that leaving the EU would put

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Britain's economy at risk, and that instead the UK should "stay

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Meanwhile, George Osborne has also issued another stark warning

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on the economy if Britain was to leave the EU.

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Boris Johnson says a vote leave would give the UK

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Three 12-year-old girls who were hospitalised after taking

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ecstasy pills in Salford are now said to be in a stable condition.

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And church services have been held to commemorate the life of Jo Cox -

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the MP who was killed in her constituency on Thursday.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are Esther McVey and John Stapleton.

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John Stapleton, broadcaster, in Man City blue. All of us are. I hope

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we're not going to see any blue on blue tonight! And Esther McVey,

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broadcaster. With hours the Daily Telegraph tells us Horace Johnson

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has called on voters to seize on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to

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leave the UK. -- leave the EU. And David Cameron delivered an

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impassioned plea for EU membership. The Daily Mail sees it differently,

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it says David Cameron was subject to a life TV mauling over the

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interrogation on immigration in question Time. It could be a tax

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bill of Britain stays in the EU says the Daily Express. It is opposed to

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the EU delivering cut rate VAT on some goods. Most of the papers

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feature the referendum in some form or another. We will start with even

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Argentines. Cameron invokes murdered MP in neck and neck exit race. TM

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tweets a link to an article written by Jo Cox. He has two dread

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carefully? He said she was a powerful ally for the remaining case

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and she will be a sad loss to the campaign. One of the most

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interesting things in this article to me, I have not come across this

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before, according to the Financial Times, legal experts are now warning

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of constitutional chaos after, if we vote to leave because the primacy of

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EU law is enshrined in the devolution agreements of Scotland,

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Wales and Northern Ireland and they would need the consideration of the

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other parliaments which could cause problems in Scotland if they wish to

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remain. I have not heard at pretend that we with regard to devolution

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but, of course, Parliament has two agreed to this because it is a

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referendum that has been put in front of the house at it would be

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able to leave House of Commons that would overturn a vote to leave if

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that what is theirs on Thursday? It is about democracy and if the will

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of the people had been to leave then that is what they have said in a

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referendum and you would have to go along with that. Yes, there would be

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legal measures to pass through what we don't want to see our people

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coming out and whatever way they vote, people who have voted a

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certain way, you have got to get on with the will of the people. That is

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what Europe does, doesn't listen. It is a sticky situation if the people

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of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland had a different choice.

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You'll macro you will see different regional variations and people will

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carefully look at that. People have made that very clear that even if

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there has been a vote to leave then that is what we are about, listening

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to the people. It is about power to the people and that is why I'm glad

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to be living in a democracy. They refer to question time and I missed

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the first five or six minutes of it. I thought Cameron, despite some of

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the headlines you just read, it is a bit like going to a football match.

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Where these guys at the same game? Somebody got the mauling, I did not

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think he got a mauling, some of the questions were good and powerful.

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Going back to your football analogy, it was a game of two halves. At the

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beginning I think he was warming up and he is fighting for something so

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he did seem rather tense. Probably by the time you came in he had

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warmed up. I think people are still asking the same questions, whether

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it is about more prissy, whether it is about, is it a good deal the UK?

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You can be getting 10 billion net to the EU and getting a 10 billion

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deficit. Immigration came up, everything came up actually and he

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answered all the questions. It was an allegation from a member of the

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audience that he was a 21st-century Neville Chamberlain waving a paper

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in front of us saying he had gotten agreement. I think it is right. What

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he says he has got the negotiations when actually it all hinges on that.

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He said actually it has not got anything and it is still to be voted

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on. You're quite right he did get his most powerful of the right when

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he was talking that we do not want to quit but you should know when he

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should be getting out and making a stand for what is right as well. The

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Daily Telegraph, Boris saying Britons can regain control of this

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great country's destiny. The rowdy lot of people still undecided after

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weeks and weeks of very heated debate. -- there are a lot of people

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still undecided. Here is Boris in the Telegraph again. They have

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turned him to their front page. You have still got a chunk of people who

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are undecided and that sort of movement between those people will,

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I think, continue right up until the moment of voting. I am always amazed

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even at a general election when people say I was walking into the

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booth and that is when I made up my mind. That is unusual for me to do.

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Quite right it has been either way but one thing we do know, it is

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close. Mighty close. Boris is saying what I the main offering? Nothing,

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no change, nor approved mid, no reform, nothing but the steady

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erosion of Parliamentary the mob Chrissie in this country. --

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democracy. The other side say that is not true, they'll help us reform

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it. Now the poster we saw earlier in the week with Nigel Farage in front

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of a huge crowd of people who look to be refugees, at breaking point it

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says and the implication was that these people can get to Britain

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because of the EU. The where Celine refugees entering Slovenia and there

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was outrage about this poster which was paraded on the street just hours

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before Jo Cox was murdered and even then certain people said this is a

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horrible poster. Completely unjustified. Today the Chancellor,

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George Osborne, said it is vile and disgusting. That view will be shared

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by a lot of people. I would say this to Nigel if I knew him, big mistake.

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It was a mistake and I say it is on British if I am being honest. I saw

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Nigel Farage interviewed on ITV this morning and he said it was a one-day

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poster, he will have a new poster out tomorrow. You were saying that

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is a true reflection as he saw it, a one-day poster. I heard all the

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things he is saying but I think most people using the words of both

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winced when they saw it. I thought it was disgraceful, frankly. Paul's

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tighter than ever with just three days left. It will be interesting to

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see how the tone of the campaign is over the next few days. The London

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mayor said the tone of the debate had previously been poisonous and

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hopefully if anything possibly good could come out of the murder of Jo

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Cox hopefully one of those things might be that the tone changes a

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little bit to become more moderate and tolerant. I think that is true

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of the tone of politics for a long time. Whether it was an act or

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whether it was the expenses of MPs, the general election, it has been

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ratcheting on for a long period of time, a lack of respect on either

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side. I think there is one easier that has gone into the dead and it

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is just 140 digits of bile and Weill and that is the Twitter sphere. It

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is not been the entire responsibility of politicians but it

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has been fuelled I some of them. The thing that intrigues me, I get quite

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depressed about the level of debate and what is happening in this

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country. The level of debate is too much sometimes? The things you see

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on social media, who are these people? They have probably been

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there all along and never had a platform. What happens if they have

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a platform on Twitter and that can go into the mainstream newspapers,

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even if they are rebutting it it still has a life of its own. It is

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on a Twitter feed and then moves on to a newspaper comment feed and it

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is really poisonous. It will do not put pictures of themselves up. You

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have no idea who you are dealing with at all. Howard 's. I think the

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whole question that has come out of late was the security of MPs. Was

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what was happening and how can you necessarily protect someone in a

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very open democracy which we have which is key to the fact you can

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meet up with an MP. That is what we have always wanted. The answered

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your question about the polls being really tight. A surge back for the

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Remain camp it would appear, precisely why we are not sure

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because some of those polls were taken before the death of Jo Cox and

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somewhere at the same time so we do not know if that was a factor. The

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Guardian, Jo Cox's fund raisers so much money in two days, quite

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remarkable, how will it be used? In the guarding the Yorkshire cricket

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team, terrific for them, a minute was Max Islands. You want something

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coming out of the death of this woman. I have been on and donated

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already to this fund. It is important it is a legacy here and

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more importantly there is a legacy on the ongoing dialogue in the

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political world. A feisty, intelligent, caring, loving, MP and

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women. We should all get behind this because somebody like I could change

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the discourse of politics and I hope so. Just so you know the three

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charities are at the Royal voluntary service to combat all menace in her

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constituency. Rescue workers in Syria and one two challenge the

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politics of hate and extremism across Britain. An MP urges Madison

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Avenue to seek out street savvy creative challenge. This is the

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Chief Executive of an ad agency in advertising, missing a trick by only

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employing graduates. -- not complying graduates. They want

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people who are more street savvy and correct in. You do have a riverside

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view if you have only gone to at select delete place. You have a good

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word to say about this? Absolutely. I did not go to university. The

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school of hard knocks. When I first joined the BBC in 1975I was one of

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the few people on nationwide, the programme I was working on, who had

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not been to university. I had in my house one night a lovely guy who had

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worked on panorama and said with a straight face that the BBC should

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not imply anyone who had not been to Oxford or Cambridge. Mrs Stapleton

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was so angry she had to stand in the kitchen for half an hour. The BBC

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has changed quite dramatically since then. Of course she is right.

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Indymedia you shouldn't have to have a degree. How can you resonate and

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be talking to all of your viewers if you only have a certain niche of

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society? You need to connect with everybody and I think that is part

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of the greatness, really, of the media. Good on her I say. Look at

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that. Thank you Esther McVey

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and John Stapleton, you'll both be back at half eleven

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for another look at the stories Barbara Taylor Bradford's

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