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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment.


David Cameron has made the case for Britain remaining in the EU.


He told a BBC Question Time special that leaving the EU would put


Britain's economy at risk, and that instead the UK should "stay


Meanwhile, George Osborne has also issued another stark warning


on the economy if Britain was to leave the EU.


Boris Johnson says a vote leave would give the UK


Three 12-year-old girls who were hospitalised after taking


ecstasy pills in Salford are now said to be in a stable condition.


And church services have been held to commemorate the life of Jo Cox -


the MP who was killed in her constituency on Thursday.


Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be


With me are Esther McVey and John Stapleton.


John Stapleton, broadcaster, in Man City blue. All of us are. I hope


we're not going to see any blue on blue tonight! And Esther McVey,


broadcaster. With hours the Daily Telegraph tells us Horace Johnson


has called on voters to seize on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to


leave the UK. -- leave the EU. And David Cameron delivered an


impassioned plea for EU membership. The Daily Mail sees it differently,


it says David Cameron was subject to a life TV mauling over the


interrogation on immigration in question Time. It could be a tax


bill of Britain stays in the EU says the Daily Express. It is opposed to


the EU delivering cut rate VAT on some goods. Most of the papers


feature the referendum in some form or another. We will start with even


Argentines. Cameron invokes murdered MP in neck and neck exit race. TM


tweets a link to an article written by Jo Cox. He has two dread


carefully? He said she was a powerful ally for the remaining case


and she will be a sad loss to the campaign. One of the most


interesting things in this article to me, I have not come across this


before, according to the Financial Times, legal experts are now warning


of constitutional chaos after, if we vote to leave because the primacy of


EU law is enshrined in the devolution agreements of Scotland,


Wales and Northern Ireland and they would need the consideration of the


other parliaments which could cause problems in Scotland if they wish to


remain. I have not heard at pretend that we with regard to devolution


but, of course, Parliament has two agreed to this because it is a


referendum that has been put in front of the house at it would be


able to leave House of Commons that would overturn a vote to leave if


that what is theirs on Thursday? It is about democracy and if the will


of the people had been to leave then that is what they have said in a


referendum and you would have to go along with that. Yes, there would be


legal measures to pass through what we don't want to see our people


coming out and whatever way they vote, people who have voted a


certain way, you have got to get on with the will of the people. That is


what Europe does, doesn't listen. It is a sticky situation if the people


of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland had a different choice.


You'll macro you will see different regional variations and people will


carefully look at that. People have made that very clear that even if


there has been a vote to leave then that is what we are about, listening


to the people. It is about power to the people and that is why I'm glad


to be living in a democracy. They refer to question time and I missed


the first five or six minutes of it. I thought Cameron, despite some of


the headlines you just read, it is a bit like going to a football match.


Where these guys at the same game? Somebody got the mauling, I did not


think he got a mauling, some of the questions were good and powerful.


Going back to your football analogy, it was a game of two halves. At the


beginning I think he was warming up and he is fighting for something so


he did seem rather tense. Probably by the time you came in he had


warmed up. I think people are still asking the same questions, whether


it is about more prissy, whether it is about, is it a good deal the UK?


You can be getting 10 billion net to the EU and getting a 10 billion


deficit. Immigration came up, everything came up actually and he


answered all the questions. It was an allegation from a member of the


audience that he was a 21st-century Neville Chamberlain waving a paper


in front of us saying he had gotten agreement. I think it is right. What


he says he has got the negotiations when actually it all hinges on that.


He said actually it has not got anything and it is still to be voted


on. You're quite right he did get his most powerful of the right when


he was talking that we do not want to quit but you should know when he


should be getting out and making a stand for what is right as well. The


Daily Telegraph, Boris saying Britons can regain control of this


great country's destiny. The rowdy lot of people still undecided after


weeks and weeks of very heated debate. -- there are a lot of people


still undecided. Here is Boris in the Telegraph again. They have


turned him to their front page. You have still got a chunk of people who


are undecided and that sort of movement between those people will,


I think, continue right up until the moment of voting. I am always amazed


even at a general election when people say I was walking into the


booth and that is when I made up my mind. That is unusual for me to do.


Quite right it has been either way but one thing we do know, it is


close. Mighty close. Boris is saying what I the main offering? Nothing,


no change, nor approved mid, no reform, nothing but the steady


erosion of Parliamentary the mob Chrissie in this country. --


democracy. The other side say that is not true, they'll help us reform


it. Now the poster we saw earlier in the week with Nigel Farage in front


of a huge crowd of people who look to be refugees, at breaking point it


says and the implication was that these people can get to Britain


because of the EU. The where Celine refugees entering Slovenia and there


was outrage about this poster which was paraded on the street just hours


before Jo Cox was murdered and even then certain people said this is a


horrible poster. Completely unjustified. Today the Chancellor,


George Osborne, said it is vile and disgusting. That view will be shared


by a lot of people. I would say this to Nigel if I knew him, big mistake.


It was a mistake and I say it is on British if I am being honest. I saw


Nigel Farage interviewed on ITV this morning and he said it was a one-day


poster, he will have a new poster out tomorrow. You were saying that


is a true reflection as he saw it, a one-day poster. I heard all the


things he is saying but I think most people using the words of both


winced when they saw it. I thought it was disgraceful, frankly. Paul's


tighter than ever with just three days left. It will be interesting to


see how the tone of the campaign is over the next few days. The London


mayor said the tone of the debate had previously been poisonous and


hopefully if anything possibly good could come out of the murder of Jo


Cox hopefully one of those things might be that the tone changes a


little bit to become more moderate and tolerant. I think that is true


of the tone of politics for a long time. Whether it was an act or


whether it was the expenses of MPs, the general election, it has been


ratcheting on for a long period of time, a lack of respect on either


side. I think there is one easier that has gone into the dead and it


is just 140 digits of bile and Weill and that is the Twitter sphere. It


is not been the entire responsibility of politicians but it


has been fuelled I some of them. The thing that intrigues me, I get quite


depressed about the level of debate and what is happening in this


country. The level of debate is too much sometimes? The things you see


on social media, who are these people? They have probably been


there all along and never had a platform. What happens if they have


a platform on Twitter and that can go into the mainstream newspapers,


even if they are rebutting it it still has a life of its own. It is


on a Twitter feed and then moves on to a newspaper comment feed and it


is really poisonous. It will do not put pictures of themselves up. You


have no idea who you are dealing with at all. Howard 's. I think the


whole question that has come out of late was the security of MPs. Was


what was happening and how can you necessarily protect someone in a


very open democracy which we have which is key to the fact you can


meet up with an MP. That is what we have always wanted. The answered


your question about the polls being really tight. A surge back for the


Remain camp it would appear, precisely why we are not sure


because some of those polls were taken before the death of Jo Cox and


somewhere at the same time so we do not know if that was a factor. The


Guardian, Jo Cox's fund raisers so much money in two days, quite


remarkable, how will it be used? In the guarding the Yorkshire cricket


team, terrific for them, a minute was Max Islands. You want something


coming out of the death of this woman. I have been on and donated


already to this fund. It is important it is a legacy here and


more importantly there is a legacy on the ongoing dialogue in the


political world. A feisty, intelligent, caring, loving, MP and


women. We should all get behind this because somebody like I could change


the discourse of politics and I hope so. Just so you know the three


charities are at the Royal voluntary service to combat all menace in her


constituency. Rescue workers in Syria and one two challenge the


politics of hate and extremism across Britain. An MP urges Madison


Avenue to seek out street savvy creative challenge. This is the


Chief Executive of an ad agency in advertising, missing a trick by only


employing graduates. -- not complying graduates. They want


people who are more street savvy and correct in. You do have a riverside


view if you have only gone to at select delete place. You have a good


word to say about this? Absolutely. I did not go to university. The


school of hard knocks. When I first joined the BBC in 1975I was one of


the few people on nationwide, the programme I was working on, who had


not been to university. I had in my house one night a lovely guy who had


worked on panorama and said with a straight face that the BBC should


not imply anyone who had not been to Oxford or Cambridge. Mrs Stapleton


was so angry she had to stand in the kitchen for half an hour. The BBC


has changed quite dramatically since then. Of course she is right.


Indymedia you shouldn't have to have a degree. How can you resonate and


be talking to all of your viewers if you only have a certain niche of


society? You need to connect with everybody and I think that is part


of the greatness, really, of the media. Good on her I say. Look at


that. Thank you Esther McVey


and John Stapleton, you'll both be back at half eleven


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