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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
With me are the broadcaster, Shyama Perera and the lawyer, Andrew Kidd. | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
As we have them at the moment. The Financial Times reports on the | :00:23. | :00:37. | |
possible purchase of Twitter. Both Google and Salesforce are in talks | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
to buy the social media platform. The independent reports on the | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
Labour leader, saying that polls reveal many are not keen on Jeremy | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
Corbyn. The Daily Mail claims doctors can work in the UK without | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
safety checks. The Times reports on a ledge at passport fraud on the | :01:00. | :01:06. | |
dark web. A new British Bill of Rights will ensure that service men | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
and women will no longer be subject to European human rights laws on the | :01:12. | :01:20. | |
battlefield. The Daily Express calls the mind blowing arrogance of | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
European president Martin Schulz. The Guardian says one in seven | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
takeaway restaurants fails basic hygiene tests. We're going to be | :01:29. | :01:31. | |
talking about a few of those stories, but let us kick off with | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
the Defence Secretary talking about British troops being the victims of | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
a witchhunt, and that a legal cases being brought against them from | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
things that have happened on the battlefield. Iraq and Afghanistan, | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
particularly. This really captures people's attentions, and people feel | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
strongly about this. Rightly, that our service men and women are doing | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
a job protecting our country and then they are being dragged through | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
the courts in these really difficult cases. And Michael Fallon here is | :02:01. | :02:05. | |
saying that it's going to come to an end. I think a lot of people will | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
support that. And he is saying that the European legislation will be | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
replaced by a British Bill of Rights and there will be a limitation | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
period, so there will be a long stop date after which these cases cannot | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
be brought. So pleased that will give certainty to these service men | :02:21. | :02:27. | |
and women -- so at least that will. So pleased that is a positive thing. | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
Some people will say that soldiers have to have legal constraints. Of | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
course they do, and that is what separates us. We fight fair, we have | :02:39. | :02:47. | |
rules that we and our soldiers stick to. The problem is not that there is | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
a rich witchhunt, the problem is that there are lawyers like Andrew, | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
presumably, there are loopholes in the law that allow them to chase | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
after soldiers and accuse them of stuff. As has been suggested | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
recently, almost perniciously. One company has closed down as a result | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
of that. It is not actually a rich witchhunt, it is an expert | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
annotation of fair laws -- it is not actually a witchhunt, it is an | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
exploitation. It's not what we do that is wrong, it is the way that we | :03:20. | :03:22. | |
have been doing it. One point Michael Fallon makes is that it's | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
not only worrying, intimidating to use his words, for soldiers who | :03:28. | :03:33. | |
retrospectively think they might be prosecuted for something. But also | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
for people who are serving now. They are worried about in the future, | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
they could possibly be prosecuted for something. So does have an | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
impact potentially on morale, I suppose? Inevitably. There has to be | :03:45. | :03:50. | |
accountability. Nobody is saying we remove accountability. It is just | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
striking the right balance between accountability and allowing our | :03:56. | :03:57. | |
service men and women to do their job. At the end of the day, we're | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
giving them a weapon and telling them to go into a war zone. And keep | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
us safe. Has that balance been tilted too much? It seems to me... | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
Human rights gets a bad press in the UK, let's face it. But it's our | :04:11. | :04:18. | |
observance of human rights which separates us from the bad guys. | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
Absolutely. We can't contemplate bad use of good laws with morality. Did | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
that bad guy deserves a beating? Yes, we probably all think secretly | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
and some publicly that he did. But should our soldiers have done it? | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
Well, you know, that is what separates us from the other side. I | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
notice very interestingly that Michael Fallon is quoted at the end | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
talking about the Russians and what's going on in Syria. He says if | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
it was a mistake, Russia should apologise. If it was deliberate, | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
then the Russian commanders should be turned in for prosecution. | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
Actually, that's all that's happening here. When somebody has | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
transgressed, they are being turned into a prosecution. What has upset | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
us is that people are exploiting this to make what appeared to be | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
pernicious allegation against individual. Let us go on The Times. | :05:09. | :05:15. | |
A different story about the dark web, saying that forged British | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
passports and things like driving licences, even GCSE certificates, | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
are being sold on hidden Internet websites in the so-called dark web | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
or the deep Web, whatever you want to call it. We have known for a long | :05:31. | :05:35. | |
time that all sorts of things and weapons and drugs, whatever, are | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
sold on the dark web. Children. Everything. Is that, not a | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
particularly shocking revelation perhaps? I suppose not. We were | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
saying before, we weren't entirely sure the dark web was. Rewound | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
absolutely sure the story was, either. We have just come from all | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
of those, you know, my daughters when they were younger got fake | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
driver 's licenses. It didn't cost them ?100, it cost them ?20. Maybe | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
get a better class of false driving licences if you go on the dark web. | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
Takes a bit of a sinister tone if you read the article. Jihadists are | :06:12. | :06:21. | |
known to be adept at using the technology and share guides on how | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
to do it. They share weapons and class a drugs and those things are | :06:27. | :06:33. | |
stoically late in the stop rather -- are circulating. These things are | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
circulating across the world. They all things like Islamic state. A lot | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
of criminals. Just to explain to anyone who doesn't know the dark web | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
is, it's like the Internet, but below the surface, isn't it? And it | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
is encrypted, that is the key. That is the key. There is a degree of | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
secrecy involved. Journalists might not use the dark web, but they will | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
use those levels of encryption. They delete that kind of onion state | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
which doesn't allow people to access what they are doing. In that sense, | :07:09. | :07:16. | |
it is a sole source for good. Brilliancy, it can be figured. Here | :07:17. | :07:24. | |
is being used for bad -- previously can be for good. You're not | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
impressed with that for a front page from The Times. I prefer the picture | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
of Jeremy Paxman above it. He says he hated his dad, at least he knew | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
him! We weren't going to too much detail about Jeremy Paxman's father. | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
It is featuring exclusive extracts from his autobiography. Now, the | :07:42. | :07:49. | |
Guardian newspaper is looking ahead to the Labour Party conference. We | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
are going to get the leadership result tomorrow. Will it be Evan | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
Smith? Will it be Jeremy Corbyn? All money seems to be an Jeremy Corbyn. | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
This is another story that is very interesting, stating the obvious, | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
Labour's divisions will become irreconcilable and the damage to the | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
putty terminal if it enters another bitter year infighting. -- to the | :08:11. | :08:22. | |
party turn terminal. That is from someone who is not a Corbyn fan as | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
such. He got dispatched as part of that initial leadership... Is this | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
paper says, he has remained neutral during the leadership race. He is | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
saying Labour will only be able to heal if there are serious | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
concessions from the leader. He is looking for some sort of compromise | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
between the two wings of the party. Mr Corbyn has said there is an olive | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
tree outside his office. Not so much an olive branch, but he is prepared | :08:52. | :08:58. | |
to offer some softening on his policies. But it remains to be seen | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
what form that will take. You would have a hard time arguing that he was | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
trying his best in terms of communications. His approach to | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
Brexit was along similar lines, or his approach to campaigning for a | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
Remain. If you put as much effort into bringing the party back | :09:21. | :09:27. | |
together as he did for that,... 7.5. It looks like he will win. What is | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
your perception of that what will mean for the Labour Party? The next | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
election it will be touch and go for the Labour Party. I would have said | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
two months ago if they carry on like this, they will lose the next | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
election without question. Now that Theresa May has started pushing her | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
own agenda, I actually think it could be 50-50 by the time we get to | :09:53. | :09:58. | |
the ballot box. They will both lose ground. You a Jeremy Corbyn Labour | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
Party could win the next election? I think if the Tories carry on in the | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
way they have the last couple of weeks, yes. OK. On that subject of | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
the Labour Party, have a cartoon in the Telegraph. We like to feature | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
these cartoons because they are so good. It is just a very simple | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
policeman being asked for directions in Liverpool. To the Labour | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
conference, says the policeman, turn left, then further left. I should be | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
doing this on this girl 's accent! Then much more left, and it's on | :10:32. | :10:39. | |
your left. -- in a Scouse accent. Your crimes staggered that she | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
thinks that Mr Corbyn has any chance. -- I am just staggered. Look | :10:43. | :10:52. | |
at the evidence, look at the polls. He can't even bring his party | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
together, and nevertheless the country. I think that she is somehow | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
crippling the Tories. She has just brought in to much that was not on | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
the manifesto. She's taking them off somewhere else together, grammar | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
schools. What did she do this we? I forgotten already, but she keeps | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
taking them off message. That's not going to be enough to hand victory | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
to Corbyn, let's face it. I think you get a 50-50, I think you'd get | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
another coalition. Or a demolition, I think it would be! Not a coalition | :11:27. | :11:35. | |
between Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn, I don't think. The Financial | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
Times have a story about Twitter. I don't know if you guys are on | :11:40. | :11:42. | |
Twitter, but it looks like it could be up for sale with Salesforce and | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
Google in talks to buy it. What you think that? Well, yes. We were | :11:47. | :11:53. | |
reading this before. I was just surprised at how much bigger | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
Facebook is then Twitter. I used Twitter so much more than I use | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
Facebook. But it says here that Facebook is 24 times larger than | :12:03. | :12:13. | |
Twitter. And snapped at also has a higher valuation. Twitter have been | :12:14. | :12:21. | |
flat-lining and struggling to get new users. They have been talk about | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
loosening the 140 characters. At the moment, I like it. It's snappy, | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
punchy. If you turn it into a blog, where there is no character limit, | :12:31. | :12:38. | |
that may make it... What's a lot? May be daily, I tweet. It's a great | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
way of interacting. I think there is a big difference between Twitter and | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
sites like Facebook. Facebook is about the heart, people obsessing or | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
pining. Twitter is about the head. Little thoughts that come out, | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
pieces of news, information. It's not really a conversation. Do you | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
like Twitter? I love Twitter and I don't like Facebook. I much prefer | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
sharing what in my head than what's in my heart. I think this is | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
interesting. You're doing both tonight 's. So you think! I think | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
this is interesting, because where does Twitter go? They won't monetise | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
Twitter, they won't put ads in. The Financial Times is saying it is | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
valued at $16 billion. Which is brilliant money. There are 70 | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
people. There must be a way to actually start influencing those | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
people. -- there are so many people. We will see what happens to Twitter. | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
Will it be sold, will it not? The Daily Mail have a question for EU | :13:45. | :13:51. | |
doctors. They say thousands of EU doctors can work in the United | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
Kingdom without basic state if the checks, according to a watchdog | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
warning today. -- basic safety checks. Is that a worry? The | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
headline is a worry. I mean, the Daily Mail supported Brexit and they | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
are sort of continuing with that line. Niall Dickson, the head of the | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
GMC is saying that the loophole needs... General medical Council. | :14:15. | :14:22. | |
The he says there is a genuine worry when it comes to protecting the | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
public. We can't check their competencies and EU policy rules. | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
Language can't be tested. -- EU equality rules. The body call for | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
this loophole to be closed. Yeah, on the facts that we have here, it is | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
worrying. I know, but what they are not saying is why this is an issue | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
at this minute. Is it because European doctors are accidentally | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
knocking us all off and we're all disappearing from GP surgeries | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
because we no longer exist? Or we are all in hospital beds that, you | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
know, and it's down to European GPs not to diagnosing us? Or is it just | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
another bit of fluff? It's relevant now because we're all talking about | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
article 50 and when will it be invoked. The Daily Mail is keeping | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
the Brexit... Dickson is a former BBC correspondent. He's obviously, | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
you know. Let us stick to health. The Guardian have something | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
potentially alarming. If you're watching this on a Friday | :15:25. | :15:41. | |
night a takeaway on the sofa, you might be a bit alarmed to know that | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
one in seven take aways fail hygiene tests, according to the Guardian | :15:46. | :15:47. | |
analysis. The ten worst areas, apparently, are the London boroughs | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
of new, Edinburgh, Shetland Islands, Islington, Lancashire, Harrow | :15:52. | :15:59. | |
Midlothian, Luton and Ealing in west London. They are full of fried | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
chicken shops! I thought this was quite fun and also very worrying. | :16:06. | :16:08. | |
I'm sure we've all got kids who come in late at night with things in | :16:09. | :16:10. | |
plastic containers that really don't look edible at all. Not just the | :16:11. | :16:20. | |
kids! I live in Islington and I'm certainly not having a takeaway on | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
the way home. I'm very choosy where I get my take aways. I think you | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
have to be very careful. I used to frequent a Chinese restaurant a lot | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
near where we lived. And suddenly in all the newspapers was a photograph | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
of a mouse in their sweet and sour sauce, running up the wall. The | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
photograph was taken by food hygiene inspectors which closed the | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
restaurant down City months, and it is still going strong. I have to | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
say, it really made us think as a family unit. -- down for two months. | :16:49. | :16:59. | |
You fiend then? Trying to eat healthy. But inevitably... Do you | :17:00. | :17:07. | |
like a takeaway curry? Occasionally, yes. Occasionally I indulge. It's | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
not a crime! You don't need to be so defensive. It's allowed. Fish finger | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
sandwiches. If you're watching at home, enjoy your takeaway. Thank you | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
so much for being with us, very good to have you on the programme. | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
Don't forget all the front pages are online on the BBC News website | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
where you can read a detailed review of the papers. | :17:30. | :17:31. | |
It's all there for you - seven days a week at bbc dot co uk | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
with each night's edition of The Papers being posted | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
on the page shortly after we've finished. | :17:41. | :17:43. | |
Thank you to our guests. And from me, goodbye. | :17:44. | :17:56. | |
It's been a fine Friday for many of us, but the weather's been on the | :17:57. | :18:02. | |
turn across the North West of Scotland. It is quite wet here from | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
this weather front. This very long weather front extends way out from | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
the Atlantic. On either side of it, | :18:11. | :18:11. |