03/10/2016 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

With me are the journalist and broadcaster Aasmah Mir

and the political commentator for the Financial Times,

The Daily Express looks ahead to Jeremy Hunt's speech tomorrow

at the Tory Party conference, in which the Health Secretary

will outline plans to create hundreds of new training places

The Metro has on its front page a picture

of the reality TV star, Kim Kardashian-West,

arriving home in New York after being robbed at gunpoint

Phillip Hammond's announcement, that the government will scrap

its target of a budget surplus by 2020.

too, with the paper pointing out how the pound has fallen to its lowest

level against the dollar for three months.

as well as featuring Jeremy Hunt's plans, also carries the news that US

is pulling out of talks with Russia over the future of Syria.

front page features the government plans to opt out of international

human rights law which is used to bring cases against soldiers.

The Times newspaper, doctors must pay back thousands if they quit the

NHS? This will be the centrepiece of Jeremy Hunt's speech to the Tory

party conference? Yes, he seems to have a two pronged attack that he is

talking about. One, that he says there will not be any need to import

what he calls overseas doctors, because we are going to train 1500

extra doctors and everything will be fine and dandy. Also, if a doctor is

to be tempted to go somewhere, perhaps more lucrative or whatever

the phrase may be, Australia for example... They kind of point be

allowed to. Some newspapers are calling it a fine, but The Times

newspaper say that they will have to pay back thousands, some of the

money that third government puts in to train the doctors in the first

place, not exactly a deterrent to stop what some people see as a brain

drain, people leaving the NHS to work overseas. I don't know whether

it will work and how it will work. But certainly, it is headline

grabbing. Yes, and it has grabbed the headlines in a number of papers.

Miranda, there is a time limit? You qualify as a doctor and 43-4 years

you must work in this country and then you can go to Australia or

Canada? People would ask, why are they leaving the UK in the first

place? -- for 3-4. Yes, Jeremy Hunt has come out of a dispute with the

BMA, either his plans for a seven-week NHS, now he declares war

again. It seems that they have put out a statement, not excepting

welcoming, of what he will announce in the speech tomorrow. He will be

daggers drawn with doctors all over again after this. Some would say,

perhaps, this kind of approach, we know that there are tens of

thousands of foreign trained doctors in the NHS. They are very important

for keeping the NHS going. The government is going to have a

problem after Brexit. He has said is not The Times version of the story

but one of the others, he has said EU nationals are working in the NHS

is doctors, and they are allowed to stay. But we cannot recruit from the

EU, we must train our own doctors. But the idea that you will not let

British trained doctors leave, what will happen? A fortress NHS? Nobody

leaves, nobody comes in. It seems like he believes the current dispute

with junior doctors is over? He's basically moving on to something

else... Moving on to the next one! It's another issue, the BMA would

say that is not the case? Yes, and what about the circumstances that

would make people want to leave and go to Australia? He can't do a lot

about the weather in Australia... And the beaches, but he can stop

changing the terms on which the NHS doctors are expected to work. There

is a difference in perception, some people say doctors here are

overworked, and they work long hours. Obviously we have had this

stuff about the seven-day NHS. And other people feel, like I hinted

earlier, that some doctors perhaps want to line their pockets. Their

view, not necessarily mine, by going abroad and having an easier time,

maybe shorter hours, sunnier climates and more money perhaps as

well. There are two ways of looking at this. And also private practice

as well, not just doctors being prevented from going abroad too

early. It will affect that as well, the public purse pays for their

training. The Daily Mail, this is after a Daily Mail campaign... Well

done. At yourselves on the back! Yes, every changed anything about

the legal or justice system must always be a victory for some sort of

newspaper campaign or another... -- pat yourselves. There's been a lot

of coverage about the number of cases being brought against British

troops, based on their actions in the battlefield, or how they treated

prisoners of war and, there's been a feeling that the legal profession

may be exploiting the Human Rights Act, essentially. It looks as if

tomorrow, at the Tory party conference, The Papers are

dominated... It's a drip drip of things that would distract from

Brexit, in my view. They are going to announce that actually, during

times of conflict, in the theatre of war, the Human Rights Act will not

apply to British troops. It's an extremely... Dramatic break with the

idea of the Human Rights Act being an integral part of British law.

This feeds into the long-term promises from senior Tory

politicians to repeal the Human Rights Act. Where it goes from

this... That will be interesting to watch. Do we leave it at that? How

can you suspend... One area of law in... Can you do this? They said

they would withdraw from EC HR temporarily, I did not know that you

could do that. But in 2016 it seems anything is possible. The last

country to suspend the application of the Convention on human rights

was Turkey to suppress the coup. Once again it is this thing of

Britain putting itself in uncomfortable company

internationally by pulling out of these human rights agreements. Also,

as well, there are suggestions that they are never any questions to ask,

that should be asked, potentially, they soldiers conduct in war being

beyond the bounds of what is reasonable. One wonders if what the

Daily Mail and others who are pushing the campaign, they would say

very legitimately and reasons for doing so... They believe that the

British can do whatever they like? Absolutely, you are right, but their

argument is, it has turned into, in their words, a vexatious claims

industry. And they are selling it by saying it is expected to save

taxpayers hundreds of millions of pounds in legal aid payments. It is

a sticking point for a lot of people as well. Indeed. You were talking

about the newspaper six -- escaping Brexit, they can't. It

is what the public wanted! The front page of the Financial Times. Hamman

warns of two years of financial turbulence and uncertainty. --

Hammond. Your seat belts on! It is interesting. You could say that he

is being refreshingly honest. We are heading for some tough times, but

I'm going to mitigate this is much as I can buy not putting all of the

money into reducing the deficit and getting into surplus, but forgetting

about austerity, and spending on housing and infrastructure. The

reason he's doing that is to kind of soften the edges of the fallout of

Brexit. It is an interesting change of course, totally opposite to what

George Osborne was doing... But, I don't know. It's probably welcoming,

people spending on housing and infrastructure, not a bad thing! It

is interesting. Philip Hammond was four remained. He did not agree, he

does not agree, with the decision -- wanted to remain. But he has to

follow through. And others in the Cabinet. They make the point that

the British people did not vote for the economic circumstances to go

through the floor. They are willing to fight and fight. It's quite

interesting, that someone who is on that side of the argument, who was

on that side of the argument before the vote, is willing to go the extra

mile to make the vote work? You would on this thing that they would

think, you know what? You voted to leave, it's going to be a mess! Let

it be a mess! They are expending political capital in defeating this.

Absolutely. Actually, Philip Hammond, as an individual in this

internal Cabinet War, it will now go on for the next few months about how

we approach the negotiations to leave, is emerging as an interesting

figure. I don't know if you watched his speech today, it was very

strange, he kept talking about how boring he was being. But the

Financial Times in its column tomorrow rightly welcomes this sober

and sensible pragmatic figure who seems to be almost signalling to his

colleagues to calm down. We had to handle this sensibly. We have to

make the best of it. Absolutely. That means, I'm afraid, retaining as

much access to the single market as possible. At the moment at the

conference, party conferences are terrible things, right? Politicians

stand up, preaching to the converted, so bonkers things that

press the hot buttons of their own people. But we've had crazy stuff

from Liam Fox saying that this will lead to a six boarding a lot of jam

and Barber led, that is literally what he said -- marmalade. It was

said that if we need 10% tariffs, so be it. So... He would not suffer,

would he? This is the awful thing. People would suffer... Philip

Hammond would not suffer either, why is he bothering to expend political

capital, potentially, with a lot of the Conservative Party who want hard

Brexit and want to get out, why is he bothered? Patriotism, I think

he's fighting for the best outcome. Good for him. This is why the Brexit

discussion and the referendum was so interesting. Different

interpretations for different people. Absolutely, let's go to the

metro. And the story... Are we going to the Metro? Yes. It's a horrible

front page if this is what she said...

You get what I'm saying. Her plea to these ?9 million jewel robbers in

Paris. If you don't know who she is... She is a businesswoman,

reality star, etc, she was in Paris with a lot of jewellery, I don't

know if it was hers, but she was held at gunpoint by armed robbers

pretending to be police officers. She was tied up in the bathroom, it

sounded like a traumatic experience for her Comanche may have said,

don't kill me because I have children to look after.

What is horrible about the story, the amount of vitriol and lack of

sympathy because she is someone... Some people suggested it was staged?

This is someone who has gone through a horrendous experience, and is not

to be laughed at. Those who have been critical online, they are

critical of the brand and not the human being. It's difficult to see

beyond the brand to see the human being. That's part of the problem

with, essentially, making money from your life, 100% of your life. Yes,

but I wonder whether it is such a modern phenomenon, really... The

idea that, really, we are less than an pathetic when someone in the

public eye suffers a horrible trauma. It has probably always been

that way... But I agree absolutely. It is horrible and sounds like she

has had a horrendous experience, tied up by armed robbers. You would

not wish that upon your worst enemy. What will be interesting is, with

the programme that follows her around, and the cameras, they would

not have documented this episode but would have documented the before and

after. If it is then broadcast, it probably will be to some extent on

her programme. Then, you can understand that some sympathy levels

will be dropped. Briefly, the express, on the second page, fury on

running around in the playground. You can't run around in the

playground any more? It is health and safety gone mad according to

paragraph two. My kids are back in primary school, they went back a few

weeks ago. You get this thing, phone calls saying... I don't want to

worry you, everything is fine, but she's bumped her head again. What

the school has actually done, they've tried to set up will turn to

of lunchtime activities so they aren't... Human cannonball is!

Including dancing to the YMCA. That sounds like a good idea! All right,

OK. Thank you to both of you for looking at the stories behind the

headlines. Thank you. Much more coming up later but now,

it's time for a look at the weather.