23/10/2016 The Papers

to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow.

With me are Tom Bergin, who's a business correspondent for Reuters,

and the writer and journalist Lucy Cavendish.

How lovely to see you both, thank you for coming in. Very autumnal! It

has all been thought through! The Telegraph leads with the claim

in an article written for the paper by the chair

of the Airports Commission that the only viable option

for airport expansion is Heathrow. The paper also claims that the

arrival of lone child migrants is a Devon town

is concerning residents. The Metro too devotes its front page

to the migrant story, of what it calls the Calais

migrant "shanty town". It says fires blazed

as migrants and police clashed. The Guardian's take on the

demolition of the Calais camp is to warn of the dangers

to vulnerable child refugees. The paper also splashes on calls

from Labour MPs to act set by Ched Evans being found

not guilty in a rape retrial. Violence amid the closure of the

Calais Campbell also dominates the Times' front page, it claims

anarchists are staring up trouble. So let's start with Calais, on

several of the front pages, as you would expect, as we approach this

move tomorrow to close down and dismantled the camp that has become

known as the Jungle. They say there are about 7000 people there, some

argue it is more like 10,000. A picture here of police and migrants

fighting running battles, it says, in Calais around this encampment on

these of this enforced eviction. There is a British angle to this, up

to 70 teenage migrants have been shipped to one rural town, Lucy,

where is it? They have gone to great Torrington in Devon, and there is

obviously some concern there, but also lots of people saying they are

a very welcoming town and they are happy to have these teenagers there.

And that it is a welcoming place for them to be. But it sort of reminds

me of a story about families that have been sent up to the middle of

Scotland, and they were complaining that they hated it because nothing

happened! It will be interesting to see what happens. The pictures on

the front pages of the papers are pretty shocking, and it looks

horrible, what is actually going on there, so going to Great Torrington

will probably be a massive relief. There is criticism of the French and

British authorities, that they have not handled this particularly well,

even though we have known for quite some time that these young children

were going to be coming. Yes, I mean, I suppose like quite a lot of

things they could be handled better, but for me, looking at this story on

what really grabs me is the amount of attention we are giving to

something where the numbers are not that great. For example, 70 people,

children, teenagers coming to this area, it seems probably temporarily,

they are not going to be in one area, although 70 in one area, it is

hard to see how it would create a massive strain on local

infrastructure. It is a small place, though. If you put this in the

context of the broader problem of migration, and the issue of asylum,

Germany received 1 million people last year. This full cap, even if it

is 10,000, it is less than 1% of that. It is a strange basis on which

to make policy decisions or develop a view of the broader issue of

migration. And it feeds in, of course, to the broader perception

that there is a pressing problem for us, and maybe it is not compared to

what other European nations have to deal with. I think it is because it

is the first people we have taken. There has been talk of taking a

measly amount of people in terms of Syrian refugees, and very few have

come. It is not something that has been talked about. This is the first

set of people that have appeared, and obviously there is a hole who

hard about weather they are children. I think people were

expecting teary six-year-old appearing wrapped up in bundles, and

of course it is a different story that has emerged. But what happens

tomorrow is an issue, isn't it? The Times is talking about anarchists

coming, the possibility of violence, and the people want to be there with

a view to getting into the UK, many of them, and it looks like it could

be violent. The Guardian says the Ayr for child refugees if the camp

is not broken up, if there is not a proper register of children under

18. -- fear. I think that is actually a proper fear, people are

going to disappear, and they are not going to say where they have gone,

and for a lot of people this will be a disaster, and there is no

register, and that is what could happen, it is a real fear. If you

have made your way to Calais, your intention was supposedly to end up

on this side of the channel. Absolutely, and France is a big

country, you could be hundreds of miles away from where you want to

be. Maybe other camps will emerge in other areas that will be launching

points to the UK. It may not solve the problem in the longer term,

having quite a unsafe camp here, it may reappear somewhere else. You

could imagine that it might do, because it was an organic thing in

the first place - people chose that place to make it across. It may just

appear somewhere else, and on it will go. Shall we move onto another

story, still on the Guardian? We have to be careful is, of course, it

is a legal issue, the case is now resolved. MPs call for legal change

after Ched Evans' case. This is a fear that, when the sexual history

of the complainant in this trial of Ched Evans, the footballer, of

course he was found not guilty on retrial, could set a precedent that

it will become open season for a woman's sexual history to be brought

up. Who is taking this case, making this challenge? Well, 40 female

Labour MPs are cited as having written to the Attorney General

asking for a review of the law, doubtless others would support that,

I assume it could be a broader group. It is an interesting case. We

discussed it earlier, is it a precedent or not? Is it the first

time it has happened? We don't know. But the fact that it has happened,

it can happen, it is of deep concern to these MPs. And it does seem a

little bit unusual. I remember having a conversation some years ago

with a doctor who was being sued for malpractice, and the doctor told me

that they believed that the claimant, that it was a fraudulent

claim, and they believed that the basis that this person had made

several claims before against other doctors. And they were not able to

bring that history up. So the idea that you are allowed to bring

somebody history up willy-nilly is not universal, so that in a brake

case, being allowed to do that, bringing up someone's sexual

history, it does not follow across other areas of law. The Lord did

change to prevent the sexual history being brought up, but this was a

very specific case, a very specific reason for it. -- the law.

Barristers we spoke to when the case ended said, actually, it will not be

subject to case law, to, law - it is a very specific issue that was part

of this hearing. -- to will next the -- to common law. The message that

is sent out, that women will take from this potentially, which is why

the MPs are writing this, it is going to be very difficult to bring

allegations of rape with a fear that your sexual history as a woman could

be brought up and be cared in public. And I think that is a very

dangerous thing to happen. And as they have said, you know, there is a

social media thing that goes on, there could be a lot of bullying,

all this sort of stuff. I think it is really important. Yes, because

complainants and victims are entitled to anonymity, but in this

case, this complainant was named on social media. Absolutely, and that

makes a massive difference. You are saying this was a very special case,

so specific to this case that it would never appear anywhere else -

that is something that people get concerned about, because these

one-off cases sometimes, you know, end up being replicated. It is hard

to say it would not come up again. Let's look at the Times, a few

stories here, what is happening in Iraq - Isis leave deadly booby-traps

for advancing Iraqi troops. This is the offensive we have been learning

about to retake the city of Mosul in Iraq from the Islamic State

militants, and of course we know that they have popped up in other

places to try to distract forces from what is happening in Mosul.

Tell us what is happening as they leave the city behind. Well, it

seems to be quite a horrific situation. Already, we have seen the

Isis forces have set fire to a sulphur plant, and we can imagine

what that is like, up to 1000 people have had to be treated for the

abuse. There is talk about vast quantities of explosives being set

up, booby-traps being rigged, trenches full of oil, the horrors

that we have seen in the past that IS has set up on the population in

the areas that it has occupied - we can only imagine what brutality as

possible. So it looks like it could be a very difficult attack, they say

it is going well for the Allied forces, but it is a difficult area.

I was in Kurdistan a few years ago, before Isis, and even then most was

perceived to be a place high volatility. -- Mosul. The population

is quite hostile at the best of times to the central government, so,

you know, the early signs are for the Western backed forces of

advancement might not continue at the same pace. And the fear is, if

they are pushed out of their strongholds, they could pop-up

elsewhere - not just in the Middle East, Iraq and Syria but here. A

really good piece in the Times, you do not see this with war reporting

very much anymore, a very experienced reporter does say in

this piece that, Rory Stewart is saying that one of the concerns is

that militants will launch terrorist attacks here as they are pushed out.

A very difficult and dangerous situation. We mentioned Moscow to

Chris Hughes in the Mirror, he has been on the front line, some

detailed reporting coming from him as well. -- we mentioned Mosul.

Pointless treatments are costing the NHS ?2 billion a year, which

treatments are these? Oh! I should not laugh about this, but I have so

much experience of the sort of placebo thing, people going in and

saying, I am ill, being given some kind of... Sugar pill. No, actual

treatment... What sort of conditions? Go go crazy is, back

pain, terminal cancer is awful, using saline solution, no difference

between using that and tap water. -- raises. It is calling all this

money, lots of plaster casts when people do not need them. It is a

ethical thing... I think it makes the patient feel better, do you not

know people like that? The antibiotics is a problem, lots of

people have insisted they wanted when they have the common cold and

we know it does not work. It is an interesting thing, why are we using

saline solution? Because the patient feels better, much more

professional, but actually you can use tap water to clean your cuts. I

do a lot of reporting, I had a conversation with an NHS Direct are

a couple of months ago, I said I would love to be doing investigative

reporting on this kind of thing. -- an NHS director. In the US, you can

get this data, you can see how much money is being wasted, and even

where it is being wasted. They can find doctors in Florida who are

doing vast quantities of fillings that do not need to be done. So we

have the academy of Royal Court is to thank. This information should be

available on the intranet. They do not seem to be keen to release this

information that would allow someone like me to assess their efficiency,

one wonders why they do not want to have that scrutiny! But it is partly

our fault as patients? That we insist on stuff? We need to grow up

a bit? Yes, I don't, because I am very hearty, and we don't do that

Sword of State in my family! No, we just don't. -- we don't do that sort

of stuff in my family. I want the least amount of medicine in my body!

So do I! Aren't we good, saving all this money for the NHS?! We are back

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