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Now on BBC News here's Gavin Esler with The Papers

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Hello and welcome to our look at The Papers. Let's have a look at the

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front pages. The Observer leads and the claim by the British bankers

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Association that some of the UK's biggest banks are preparing to be

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located outside the UK next year overpacked -- Praxiteles.

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The Times also mentions Calais and refugee arrivals,

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but their main story is an account from reporter Louise Callaghan

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of the Iraqi mission to liberate the city of Mosul

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The situation in Calais also dominates the Telegraph's front

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page, but the paper focuses on claims that the Home Office

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ignored warnings about the issues - such as age checks -

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And the Express claims to have an exclusive on its front

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page, a row between Prince Charles and Prince Andrew over the official

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roles of Andrew's daughters Beatrice and Eugenie.

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Leading banks set to pull out of the UK early next year overpacked said.

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City chiefs are poised to hit the relocated button. Is this Project we

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are again or somehow project fact when it happens? It is probably a

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bit of both. He is saying, rather graphically, that some banks are

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offering their fingers over the relocated button and are thinking of

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going. They would say that. They are lobbying for their own interests. We

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have heard this before from the banks. There have been reports of

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the 70,000 jobs could go. There is a fundamental truth which is that the

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banks like being in London. While there is talk of them being lured to

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Paris or Frankfurt, bankers enjoy living in London. His lobbyist for

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banks lobbying for bikers. Bikers also like Monday -- like money and

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if they thought they had a better chance in France, the France -- the

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French were trying to lure them to Paris with little adverts. I think

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they will go where they think they make the biggest profits and they

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can afford to let up on these leases in London which are overpriced

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anyway. Restaurants are better in Britain than in France, anyway.

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Paris isn't as interesting in as many ways. It is thanks to the

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bankers that we have such fantastic food in London and all these things

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because they have pumped money through London for 20 years. They

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ordered the most sympathetic lobby group after 2008. They have become

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literally pantomime villains. With some justification. The problem is

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as an economy we are over relied on the financial sector, so this is

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part of the intense lobbying campaign with the government. It is

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special pleading if you like, but it is pleading the government cannot

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ignore because they are important to the economy. The Observer also have

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this. 50 refugee girls arrive after U-turns by officials. They also have

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Kerry Mulligan clutching a toy bear. What do you make of this story and

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the way in which some people who are celebrities, Lily Allen as well,

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have come out and talked about this? I am not sure what the use of

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celebrities does except to make people more cross. As a woman, it is

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lovely to see girl children being brought in because one of the

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biggest problems for all people deal with the refugee crisis is that all

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we see is young men. To most of this, even when we see our

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home-grown young men standing on the corners in groups all we see is a

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trouble. The idea we will bring in even more young men who stand on

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street corners and get cross with each other is pretty terrifying to

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people. It is very important to be reminded that there are girls there

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and young women there because we see them possibly as an integrated

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future. They tended to be invisible in much of the coverage. When the

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young men came in, there were a lot of photographs. I am not sure why

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that is. Are we protecting them from traffickers or whatever. We seem to

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treat women differently and we are not sing enough girls and women. The

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Observer coverage is about the young girls and the pictures that have

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been around, they are very young. The journey between 13 and 17. There

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is a problem of perception because the first draft of people coming in

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looked of dubious age. There were warnings from border officials that

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many migrants were posing as children to get into the country

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when they were substantially older. There is good coverage around the

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fact that the latest group of refugees are girls. It is

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unfortunate that are in the second set of arrivals, rather than the

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first. Even the Brexit problems are that you are only seeing male

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refugees coming in. Again, it is that sense, to me, of an importation

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of aggression. Good for Kerry Mulligan for speaking up. It

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wouldn't have got the coverage if it wasn't for this sort of celebrity

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endorsement. It is what it is. It is done for a reason, quite rightly. It

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expands the coverage and that is a good thing. There is a different

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take from the Telegraph. Warnings as child migrants try to cross the

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Channel. It is the typical photo of young men with their faces covered,

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which makes us feel anxious because those images we associate with

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violent activities. If you juxtapose that with the Observer story, it is

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two different sides of the same story. It depends where you sit and

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look at it. The Telegraph have a lot of the warnings. There is a

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suggestion Chief inspectors of workers have warned that people were

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posing as migrants and children as much as three years ago. Suggestions

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that council officials offered to help with age verification have been

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shunned by various authorities. The Telegraph agenda is to pull together

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all the fears and preconceptions about the fact people are trying to

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pose as children to get in and reaffirming it. The picture is the

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key part of that. There is not too much mentioned about the group of

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young girls the kingpin. It is the focus on the bogus element. One of

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my favourite cartoonists is on the front page. It says children on

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board apparently. On the front page of the Telegraph we also have a

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story which will please a lot of people. Nuisance phone call bosses

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to face Avei million pounds in fines. You get these nuisance phone

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calls and that they could face fines. They come often via internet

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phones so that is no redress because in the old days you could keep them

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hanging on until they were paying huge phone bills if nothing else for

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the price of knowing you. Now they bring fire escape or similar and

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just stay on for ever. I think the problem with this isn't that most of

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these companies close. They go into liquidation as soon as they are

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fined. Somebody phoned up and it was a person who said how are you today?

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I thought this is completely anonymous. They are just trying to

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come up with an introduction other than I heard you have been involved

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in an accident. The key thing is pinning it on the directors. They

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liquidate the company is immediately so what the government is saying,

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good work has been done on this by consumer groups who have led the way

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on this in terms of saying that crackdown on these people. Let's see

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if it works. It is all good work has been done on this by consumer groups

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who have led the way on this in terms of saying that crackdown on

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these people. Let's see if it works. The result was in theory, but I

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don't think it. These calls, unfortunately. You can of course

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ring the telephone service and get your phone number ticking off these

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lists. I do it regularly for me and my mum. Top consumer tips. The

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Sunday Times. I was entrapped by Isis Dons. This is about Mosul and

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other parts of that conflict. It points out the risks people, war

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correspondents, have to take to do their job. It is an extremely

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dangerous job and I think it will get more dangerous for these

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embedded correspondents were those on the outskirts of Mosul as they

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get closer to the city and the fighting is likely to get harder and

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more difficult and dangerous. There is already a suggestion that as many

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as 250 men and boys used as human shields have been killed in Mosul.

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It is going to get worse before gets better and the idea that Islamic

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State or so embedded with the population just that everybody at

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greater risk, both soldiers and civilians. They have been there for

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more than two years. Children are not quite to school for two years

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because they have been indoctrinated. It is terribly sad.

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On a point of process, I am not sure I like personal stories on front

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pages. I want the personal stories inside, even on a Sunday newspaper

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and a more conventional story on the front page. I don't want something

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that starts with the reporter on the front page. It doesn't diminish her

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bravery in doing the job. She doesn't have to be there in the

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sense she is doing her job and is reasonably well-paid by the Sunday

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Times for doing it and that is very different for the people who are

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trapped in their everyday. One of the reason I like Sunday newspaper

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is that they have done something like what the Observer has done.

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Three pages on Trump and Clinton. It has great graphics. This is rather

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good. What they do is they say what would happen if you took out a black

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voters or female voters or college educated voters or Hispanic voters?

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How would it change the result? It shows, America is not unique in

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this, how divided America is between these various groups. It also draws

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a parallel with the UK with the Brexit foot. It looks at different

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states, different areas. It looks at how white menfolk, generally Trump.

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Of the black and Hispanic population thought, were women. It basically

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says that Clinton is ahead by 48-2, the margin of error is still pretty

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good, she is less unpopular than Trump, which seems to be key to this

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election. It is 48-42, but a margin of error of 4%. The other big

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question which is raised here is you don't count people who don't

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normally vote. If they come out in big numbers it will change

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everything. Trump only came top in the graphic that showed no black

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voters. In every other combination, Clinton is ahead. That is quite

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interesting. Our final story of the day is Ed balls. Out on a limb. This

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is from the mail on Sunday. Why you should never ask Ed for a lift. What

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is this about? He looks like a butcher. The EP member when a

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butcher would wear a waistcoat and a hat? They were dancing. The looked

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like Mr Morris, the old butcher in Morris when I was growing up,

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sweeping some of the street and throwing around. He did really well

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until that particular left and he just didn't pull off that list and

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that is what cost. He is very stiff. He looked like a hammer, not like a

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woman. He is the first to admit he is the worst dancer on the show but

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everyone loves a try. Some of these people have been in West End

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musicals. They are pretty good at it. It would be interesting to see

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if he survives because he comes bottom of the leaderboard but does

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better on the public vote. You can't help but admire him. He is like John

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Sergeant but not so charming. There is a rigidity in him which is

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difficult. You didn't notice it, I always thought he would be the sort

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of man who would be good in a fight. When you see him it is like he is

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frozen. I admire anyone who goes on it. In terms of his progress, he is

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a pretty good. A lot of were pretty good at the start. Those of us who

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are challenged by two left feet just admire the guts of taking part,

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never mind how he did. That is it for The Papers. A reminder, we look

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at the front pages every evening at a quarter to 11 on BBC News.

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A cold start to the day, feeling like an autumnal morning out there.

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Some mist and

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