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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are Tom Bergin, who's a business correspondent for Reuters,

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and the writer and journalist Lucy Cavendish.

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How lovely to see you both, thank you for coming in. Very autumnal! It

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has all been thought through! The Telegraph leads with the claim

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in an article written for the paper by the chair

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of the Airports Commission that the only viable option

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for airport expansion is Heathrow. The paper also claims that the

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arrival of lone child migrants is a Devon town

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is concerning residents. The Metro too devotes its front page

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to the migrant story, of what it calls the Calais

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migrant "shanty town". It says fires blazed

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as migrants and police clashed. The Guardian's take on the

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demolition of the Calais camp is to warn of the dangers

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to vulnerable child refugees. The paper also splashes on calls

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from Labour MPs to act set by Ched Evans being found

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not guilty in a rape retrial. Violence amid the closure of the

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Calais Campbell also dominates the Times' front page, it claims

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anarchists are staring up trouble. So let's start with Calais, on

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several of the front pages, as you would expect, as we approach this

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move tomorrow to close down and dismantled the camp that has become

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known as the Jungle. They say there are about 7000 people there, some

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argue it is more like 10,000. A picture here of police and migrants

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fighting running battles, it says, in Calais around this encampment on

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these of this enforced eviction. There is a British angle to this, up

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to 70 teenage migrants have been shipped to one rural town, Lucy,

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where is it? They have gone to great Torrington in Devon, and there is

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obviously some concern there, but also lots of people saying they are

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a very welcoming town and they are happy to have these teenagers there.

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And that it is a welcoming place for them to be. But it sort of reminds

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me of a story about families that have been sent up to the middle of

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Scotland, and they were complaining that they hated it because nothing

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happened! It will be interesting to see what happens. The pictures on

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the front pages of the papers are pretty shocking, and it looks

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horrible, what is actually going on there, so going to Great Torrington

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will probably be a massive relief. There is criticism of the French and

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British authorities, that they have not handled this particularly well,

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even though we have known for quite some time that these young children

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were going to be coming. Yes, I mean, I suppose like quite a lot of

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things they could be handled better, but for me, looking at this story on

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what really grabs me is the amount of attention we are giving to

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something where the numbers are not that great. For example, 70 people,

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children, teenagers coming to this area, it seems probably temporarily,

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they are not going to be in one area, although 70 in one area, it is

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hard to see how it would create a massive strain on local

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infrastructure. It is a small place, though. If you put this in the

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context of the broader problem of migration, and the issue of asylum,

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Germany received 1 million people last year. This full cap, even if it

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is 10,000, it is less than 1% of that. It is a strange basis on which

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to make policy decisions or develop a view of the broader issue of

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migration. And it feeds in, of course, to the broader perception

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that there is a pressing problem for us, and maybe it is not compared to

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what other European nations have to deal with. I think it is because it

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is the first people we have taken. There has been talk of taking a

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measly amount of people in terms of Syrian refugees, and very few have

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come. It is not something that has been talked about. This is the first

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set of people that have appeared, and obviously there is a hole who

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hard about weather they are children. I think people were

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expecting teary six-year-old appearing wrapped up in bundles, and

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of course it is a different story that has emerged. But what happens

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tomorrow is an issue, isn't it? The Times is talking about anarchists

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coming, the possibility of violence, and the people want to be there with

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a view to getting into the UK, many of them, and it looks like it could

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be violent. The Guardian says the Ayr for child refugees if the camp

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is not broken up, if there is not a proper register of children under

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18. -- fear. I think that is actually a proper fear, people are

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going to disappear, and they are not going to say where they have gone,

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and for a lot of people this will be a disaster, and there is no

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register, and that is what could happen, it is a real fear. If you

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have made your way to Calais, your intention was supposedly to end up

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on this side of the channel. Absolutely, and France is a big

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country, you could be hundreds of miles away from where you want to

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be. Maybe other camps will emerge in other areas that will be launching

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points to the UK. It may not solve the problem in the longer term,

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having quite a unsafe camp here, it may reappear somewhere else. You

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could imagine that it might do, because it was an organic thing in

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the first place - people chose that place to make it across. It may just

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appear somewhere else, and on it will go. Shall we move onto another

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story, still on the Guardian? We have to be careful is, of course, it

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is a legal issue, the case is now resolved. MPs call for legal change

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after Ched Evans' case. This is a fear that, when the sexual history

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of the complainant in this trial of Ched Evans, the footballer, of

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course he was found not guilty on retrial, could set a precedent that

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it will become open season for a woman's sexual history to be brought

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up. Who is taking this case, making this challenge? Well, 40 female

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Labour MPs are cited as having written to the Attorney General

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asking for a review of the law, doubtless others would support that,

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I assume it could be a broader group. It is an interesting case. We

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discussed it earlier, is it a precedent or not? Is it the first

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time it has happened? We don't know. But the fact that it has happened,

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it can happen, it is of deep concern to these MPs. And it does seem a

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little bit unusual. I remember having a conversation some years ago

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with a doctor who was being sued for malpractice, and the doctor told me

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that they believed that the claimant, that it was a fraudulent

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claim, and they believed that the basis that this person had made

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several claims before against other doctors. And they were not able to

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bring that history up. So the idea that you are allowed to bring

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somebody history up willy-nilly is not universal, so that in a brake

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case, being allowed to do that, bringing up someone's sexual

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history, it does not follow across other areas of law. The Lord did

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change to prevent the sexual history being brought up, but this was a

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very specific case, a very specific reason for it. -- the law.

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Barristers we spoke to when the case ended said, actually, it will not be

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subject to case law, to, law - it is a very specific issue that was part

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of this hearing. -- to will next the -- to common law. The message that

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is sent out, that women will take from this potentially, which is why

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the MPs are writing this, it is going to be very difficult to bring

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allegations of rape with a fear that your sexual history as a woman could

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be brought up and be cared in public. And I think that is a very

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dangerous thing to happen. And as they have said, you know, there is a

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social media thing that goes on, there could be a lot of bullying,

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all this sort of stuff. I think it is really important. Yes, because

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complainants and victims are entitled to anonymity, but in this

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case, this complainant was named on social media. Absolutely, and that

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makes a massive difference. You are saying this was a very special case,

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so specific to this case that it would never appear anywhere else -

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that is something that people get concerned about, because these

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one-off cases sometimes, you know, end up being replicated. It is hard

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to say it would not come up again. Let's look at the Times, a few

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stories here, what is happening in Iraq - Isis leave deadly booby-traps

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for advancing Iraqi troops. This is the offensive we have been learning

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about to retake the city of Mosul in Iraq from the Islamic State

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militants, and of course we know that they have popped up in other

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places to try to distract forces from what is happening in Mosul.

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Tell us what is happening as they leave the city behind. Well, it

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seems to be quite a horrific situation. Already, we have seen the

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Isis forces have set fire to a sulphur plant, and we can imagine

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what that is like, up to 1000 people have had to be treated for the

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abuse. There is talk about vast quantities of explosives being set

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up, booby-traps being rigged, trenches full of oil, the horrors

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that we have seen in the past that IS has set up on the population in

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the areas that it has occupied - we can only imagine what brutality as

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possible. So it looks like it could be a very difficult attack, they say

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it is going well for the Allied forces, but it is a difficult area.

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I was in Kurdistan a few years ago, before Isis, and even then most was

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perceived to be a place high volatility. -- Mosul. The population

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is quite hostile at the best of times to the central government, so,

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you know, the early signs are for the Western backed forces of

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advancement might not continue at the same pace. And the fear is, if

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they are pushed out of their strongholds, they could pop-up

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elsewhere - not just in the Middle East, Iraq and Syria but here. A

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really good piece in the Times, you do not see this with war reporting

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very much anymore, a very experienced reporter does say in

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this piece that, Rory Stewart is saying that one of the concerns is

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that militants will launch terrorist attacks here as they are pushed out.

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A very difficult and dangerous situation. We mentioned Moscow to

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Chris Hughes in the Mirror, he has been on the front line, some

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detailed reporting coming from him as well. -- we mentioned Mosul.

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Pointless treatments are costing the NHS ?2 billion a year, which

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treatments are these? Oh! I should not laugh about this, but I have so

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much experience of the sort of placebo thing, people going in and

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saying, I am ill, being given some kind of... Sugar pill. No, actual

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treatment... What sort of conditions? Go go crazy is, back

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pain, terminal cancer is awful, using saline solution, no difference

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between using that and tap water. -- raises. It is calling all this

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money, lots of plaster casts when people do not need them. It is a

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ethical thing... I think it makes the patient feel better, do you not

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know people like that? The antibiotics is a problem, lots of

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people have insisted they wanted when they have the common cold and

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we know it does not work. It is an interesting thing, why are we using

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saline solution? Because the patient feels better, much more

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professional, but actually you can use tap water to clean your cuts. I

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do a lot of reporting, I had a conversation with an NHS Direct are

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a couple of months ago, I said I would love to be doing investigative

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reporting on this kind of thing. -- an NHS director. In the US, you can

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get this data, you can see how much money is being wasted, and even

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where it is being wasted. They can find doctors in Florida who are

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doing vast quantities of fillings that do not need to be done. So we

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have the academy of Royal Court is to thank. This information should be

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available on the intranet. They do not seem to be keen to release this

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information that would allow someone like me to assess their efficiency,

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one wonders why they do not want to have that scrutiny! But it is partly

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our fault as patients? That we insist on stuff? We need to grow up

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a bit? Yes, I don't, because I am very hearty, and we don't do that

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Sword of State in my family! No, we just don't. -- we don't do that sort

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of stuff in my family. I want the least amount of medicine in my body!

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So do I! Aren't we good, saving all this money for the NHS?! We are back

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