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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
With me are Ben Riley-Smith, Assistant Political Editor | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
at The Daily Telegraph and Lindsay Razaq. | :00:23. | :00:23. | |
Westminster Correspondent at the Scottish newspaper, | :00:24. | :00:25. | |
Let's look at some of the front pages. | :00:26. | :00:34. | |
The Telegraph says tonight's Brexit vote in the Commons has handed | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
Theresa May a 'blank cheque' for leaving the EU. | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
The Prime Minister's victory also dominates the front of the i - | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
it says the government will now set out a strategic Brexit plan. | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
And the most jubilant headline on the story comes from the Express. | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
The Financial Times reports on the deal to save the Tata | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
Steelworks in Port Talbot, which will keep the blast | :01:00. | :01:01. | |
An image of the out-going HMS Illustrious dominates | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
the front of the Times, which also has a story | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
on consultancy companies earning billions from overseas aid. | :01:11. | :01:17. | |
And the Metro leads on the fines handed down to two pharmaceutical | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
companies for over-charging the NHS for drugs. | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
We are going to start, where else, with Brexit. Lindsay, victory for | :01:25. | :01:34. | |
the promised, the Commons backs her, and MPs show support for Downing | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
Street on Article 50. There is no going back now, it is going to | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
happen. That is what the Brexiteers would | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
like to think. It has been a significant day, a significant vote | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
in the House of Commons today. It is the first time MPs have shown | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
support for Article 50. Clever politics from Theresa May. It came | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
from a Labour motion calling on the government to publish its plan for | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
Brexit. She was fearful of a rebellion from the backbenches, and | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
came in with an amendment of her own, which said, yes, OK, but in | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
exchange, we want you to commit to our timetable for Brexit, Article 50 | :02:16. | :02:25. | |
being triggered. It gives her breathing space. | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
A bit of breathing space, Ben, the fact is we have a few months before | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
31st March, there could be a lot of pitfalls and barriers, and hurdles | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
up to that point. For instance, the Labour motion said they wanted a | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
plan. That plan has got to be detailed enough, hasn't it? To | :02:44. | :02:51. | |
satisfy those critics who feel the party, the Tory party is not putting | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
out enough details as to what it is going to do. | :02:56. | :02:57. | |
That is one of the big question is, we are in a big spin operation after | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
the vote to work out what it means, which side has won. Whatever happens | :03:02. | :03:11. | |
in the Supreme Court, whatever legislation, whatever decision is | :03:12. | :03:18. | |
taken, the others are saying, hang on, there needs to be a piece of | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
legislation, that is what we are arguing for in the Supreme Court. | :03:24. | :03:28. | |
The second is how detail should the plan be? Labour appear to want to | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
say, do you want to be in and out of the customs union, the single | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
market, be specific about what you want. You can imagine, Theresa May | :03:38. | :03:48. | |
will keep it broadbrush. Some conservatives? Ken Clarke voted | :03:49. | :03:56. | |
against. One conservative. He voted against the government | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
today. He is a well-known Europhile, which is not surprising. Others that | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
did back the Prime Minister, it might not prevent them from being | :04:05. | :04:12. | |
vocal, the Lib Dems are demanding a vote on the final referendum on the | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
final deal, so people know they voted to leave, but now they want to | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
know what the next stage will be. They want to have a vote on that. | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
The pressure isn't going to go away. I suppose it is a momentary pause | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
for her where she can reflect and think, OK, this is under my belt. | :04:30. | :04:37. | |
Fact is, critics, the Labour Party, Plaid Cymru, they might say that | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
there is not enough detail, they want a Bill. We will get to the | :04:41. | :04:48. | |
Supreme Court in a minute. We know it has to be done by 31st March, we | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
have agreed to that, but they could be big problems. | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
It becomes incredibly hard labour and the critics which is where | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
Theresa May has been clever. She has said, you backed 5-1 that we should | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
begin the talks, if they begin to amendments down saying, OK, we are | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
not going to talk again until you reveal the plan, she will ask why? | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
You are undermining the agreement that we made a couple of weeks ago. | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
It is hard for Labour to say, yes, we will force you to reveal the | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
plan, but agree that you have total authority to begin it. | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
Keir Starmer initiated the motion in the first place. Although Labour | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
will claim it as a victory, it has backfired a little bit, potentially. | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
The papers seem to think it has backfired. They are talking about as | :05:33. | :05:37. | |
we talk about the Daily Telegraph, MP s hand made blank check for | :05:38. | :05:49. | |
Brexit. Whatever happens in the Supreme Court, it doesn't matter. | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
In theory, it does, because the vote we had today in Parliament isn't | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
binding. It is utterly meaningless. In reality, it is not. But if the | :06:00. | :06:07. | |
Supreme Court says she has two consult parliament before triggering | :06:08. | :06:10. | |
Article 50, we have to have a Bill. I understand the government has | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
prepared a three line Bill on the back burner in case they are obliged | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
to do this. Even one of the justices is conceding that it would appear | :06:21. | :06:27. | |
odd now if the Supreme Court were to say, "This is what we think". That | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
is in contradiction to what the MPs have voted. | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
You can see the way the Tories are beginning to put it, the Brexiteers, | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
the Supreme Court ruling is now irrelevant. Iain Duncan Smith saying | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
the government have a blank cheque. They are saying, case closed, job | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
done, move on. The numbers are interesting. Like you said earlier, | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
5-1, backed exit. If you look at Labour, this year, who has been the | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
party with the biggest split over Europe, the Tories will thought one | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
Tory refused to vote with the government. Most of Labour voted | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
with them, 50 Labour MPs refusing to take a decision, and 23 Labour MPs | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
voting against the motion. They are the most spit party. | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
Why are we surprised at the size of the victory here? I was going to say | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
that no one in their right mind, there was Tim Farron and others | :07:25. | :07:26. | |
saying we should have a second referendum. The bottom line is, the | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
vast majority of people did not say, we should overturn the will of the | :07:33. | :07:35. | |
British people, and rerun the whole thing, they didn't. | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
And remember, the key thing is that MPs are accountable at the ballot | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
box. If you are at an MP in a constituency that is proper exit, | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
you cannot stand up in Parliament and say your constituents are wrong. | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
Anyone that wants to get elected again shouldn't be doing that. | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
What these headlines are suggesting is that there was nervous and is on | :07:56. | :08:02. | |
the part of Brexiteers that there could be some mechanism whereby the | :08:03. | :08:10. | |
vote was overturned -- nervousness. That was seriously real. | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
The greater fear was not that the vote would be overturned, that was | :08:15. | :08:20. | |
the ultimate fear. It is two fold, one that they could use the vote to | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
force Theresa May to be really specific about what she wants. Once | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
she is public with that, they can chip away at it. The second one is, | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
can you delay the process by withholding their support? Maybe she | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
will miss her March deadline. Those two things become less likely with | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
this boat. They are not out of the woods yet. | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
The mention of the devolved nations, we heard from the lawyer for the | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
Scottish Government, who is arguing that there should be a vote in | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
Holyrood as well. Is that going to fly? | :08:53. | :09:00. | |
We will have to wait and see. We are going to prejudge the most | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
eminent minds in the Supreme Court, it is worth a go on the part of the | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
SNP, no question about that. Let's go to Tata Steel. On the face of it, | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
Ben, a good news story. Thousands of jobs look as though they will be | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
saved. As with businesses up and down the land, the pension scheme | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
has been the real stumbling block here. That seems to have been taken | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
out of the equation now because the old scheme is the past. | :09:28. | :09:35. | |
It is such a turnaround from when the announcement seemed sudden when | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
the plant could be closed. The government was caught on the hop. | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
Sajid Javid came in for criticism because he was abroad when the | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
announcement was made. Critics said this looks fantastic on the face of | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
it, 1 billion over the next ten years, 8000 jobs secured until 2021. | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
The sticking point, I think, will be the pension scheme. Tata Steel are | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
saying let's close the ?15 billion pension scheme that was spiralling | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
away. Let's replace it with a new contributory scheme. It has not yet | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
gone to the trade union, so we are only halfway there, which is why | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
Greg Clark is cautious. Let's wait and see. On the face of it, very | :10:20. | :10:21. | |
good news. Indeed. What the steel industry is | :10:22. | :10:27. | |
saying is that Tata Steel have moved a long way here, secured some jobs, | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
now the government has got to step in. Got to deal with Chinese | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
dumping, deal with green energy, taxes, corporation tax, energy | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
costs, a whole host of things. The head of UK steel was telling me | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
tonight that he hasn't heard, as part of Theresa May's industrial | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
policy, an idea of where steel fits in, and that is what he wants to | :10:50. | :10:51. | |
hear. There has not been a huge amount of | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
detail with strategy, as with the Brexit plan. Certainly, the | :10:58. | :11:00. | |
government will be under pressure off the back of this because there | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
is momentum with this. Theresa May has stood outside Downing Street and | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
said she is on the side of ordinary, working people, as she called it, | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
the people that are just about managing. These are the very people | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
she is talking about when she says that. There will be pressure for her | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
to do more. All right, OK. Back to the | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
Telegraph, commuters on rail strike line lose job offers, what is this | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
about? Extraordinary story, the problems at | :11:30. | :11:31. | |
Southern Rail have been well but committed, terrible delays, people | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
spending hours getting to work and getting home. We are seeing some of | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
the terrible repercussions but that is having on people. Specifically, | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
job offers are being removed when employees here that the people they | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
were going to employ are travelling on Southern Rail. There is a woman | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
who is an IT Trainer quoted in the paper, telling me could not have the | :11:55. | :12:05. | |
role because users Southern Rail. This person has done nothing more, | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
they may be perfectly qualified, the problems of somebody else, other | :12:10. | :12:12. | |
than them, has stripped them of the chance of getting a is worrying. | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
It is horrific. If you are a boss, the point of having a worker is that | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
they will come and be able to do the job on time and when he you require | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
them to do so. If that cannot be guaranteed because the trains are | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
rubbish, what are you going to do? It does seem extraordinarily harsh | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
that people are being dismissed as candidates, they might be the best | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
candidate going, but may be dismissed because of this. If you | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
are the boss, you are counting the pennies, and you have to make sure | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
your employees are at work on time. In one sense, I guess, it could be | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
perceived as reasonable. When I first read it, I wondered if, | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
legally, employers can disconnect on this basis. I don't know if there is | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
an illegal reason. Any lawyers out there, if Lord | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
Pannick is watching, tell us what is going on with this story. | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
The Metro, we have a little picture in the corner, Donald Trump, Person | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
of the year on the cover of Time magazine. There he is on the front | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
of the Metro. He is Person of the year. That picture is taken from the | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
front page of Time. There it is will stop he is upset lips is who is that | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
fellow? Is it a contributor from the United States? He is upset that at | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
the bottom of Time magazine it says that Donald Trump is president of a | :13:34. | :13:41. | |
divided States of America. He is suggesting that he did not divide | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
America, he is bringing America back together. | :13:46. | :13:47. | |
I don't think he would argue that it is divided, that is essentially the | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
reason why he won. But he is taking issue with the reason, I guess, | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
behind it. He did say it was a great honour, but has taken issue with | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
that description of him, unsurprising really. It is like Time | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
magazine having their cake and eating it, giving it to the | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
controversial person and... the editor said it was a | :14:13. | :14:15. | |
straightforward decision, and a choice of the person that has had | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
the greatest influence on events for better or worse. | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
If you speak to Nigel for while -- he beat Nigel Farage to the title. | :14:25. | :14:32. | |
Donald Trump call the list a joke in 2014. | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
No one is surprised any more. Thank you so much for the stories and | :14:38. | :14:40. | |
headlines, many thanks for that. Stay with us on BBC News. | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
Don't forget all the front pages are online on the BBC News website | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
where you can read a detailed review of the papers. | :14:49. | :14:50. | |
It's all there for you, seven days a week | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
at bbc.co.uk/papers - and you can see us there, too - | :14:54. | :14:55. | |
with each night's edition of The Papers being posted | :14:56. | :14:57. | |
on the page shortly after we've finished. | :14:58. | :14:59. | |
Thank you to you for watching. Goodbye. | :15:00. | :15:12. | |
Good evening. The last 36 hours has felt like going from early winter to | :15:13. | :15:19. |