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Hello and welcome to Tuesday in Parliament, our look at the best

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of the day in the Commons and the Lords.

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Pleas for action to stop the carnage in the Syrian city of Aleppo.

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We urgently now need a mechanism with clear consequences to deter

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further barbaric attacks on civilians.

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All that dubious international money used to buy houses in London.

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MPs are told, "Why isn't anybody doing anything about it?"

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If you take the thought that a lot of corrupt money goes into London

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property, there is the question, why aren't they reported to anybody?

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The footballers of Leicester get parliamentary recognition.

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Spake Mike does that he accepts that rather coloured red Leicester, it is

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now blue Leicester? -- call it red Leicester?

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That was how the Foreign Office Minister Tobias Ellwood described

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The fragile truce in Syria that was negotiated in February

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does not cover Aleppo, the country's largest city

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and the scene of appalling violence in recent weeks.

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A monitoring group said more than 270 civilians had been killed

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in Aleppo by bombardments in the last ten days,

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150 in rebel-held areas and 120 in government-held districts.

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55 died last week in an air strike on a hospital.

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In the Commons, the situation was raised by a Labour backbench MP.

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On Friday, desperate doctors in Aleppo appealed for international

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help to stave off further massacres and the potential besiegement

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of that city, fearing a repeat of the horrors of Srebrenica.

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In the light of this, does the Minister agree

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that it is the Syrian authorities who are primarily responsible

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for these horrific ongoing abuses, continuing their long-standing

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policy of targeting civilians in rebel-held areas?

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What is the UK doing to work with all those with an influence

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over parties to the conflict, including Saudi Arabia,

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Turkey, Iran and Russia, to put pressure on all sides to stop

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all attacks on civilian targets, including hospitals?

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Does the Minister have evidence that Russian forces have been directly

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If they were, does he agree that is it surely time for fresh

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We look to Russia, with its unique influence over the regime,

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to ensure that the cessation of hostilities does not break down.

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It has set itself up as the protector of the Assad

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regime, and it must now put real pressure on the regime

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This is crucial if peace negotiations are to be

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I ask the House to consider how different Syria might look if,

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in August 2013, we had voted in favour of punitive bomb strikes.

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Daesh did not even exist in Syria at that time - it had no

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Instead, this House stepped back from that decision,

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and I think that we will live to regret that.

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Surely we have to accept Syria as it is.

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Whether we like it or not, Assad is not going to

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He has the only army on the ground capable of defeating ISIL,

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and he has just as much support as all the hundred

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If we undermine him, an authoritarian, we will unleash

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Is it not significant that any progress this week has been

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as a result of contacts between America and Russia,

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yet our Government have put the Russian Government

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We are denying them visas, we are not talking to Lavrov,

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we have absolutely no influence - because of our obsession

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with Russia and getting rid of Assad, we are not actually

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This is an urgent question, but it would be helpful if we heard

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more of a tone of urgency in the Government's response.

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The destruction of the infrastructure in Aleppo

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is so wanton that we are beginning to wonder whether there will be

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The first priority has to be a ceasefire so that humanitarian aid

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can be supplied to those desperately in need.

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Are the Government making or supporting preparations

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to deliver aid as soon as any window of opportunity arises?

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The UK is levitating on a flow of dirty money,

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The financier and critic of Vladimir Putin, Bill Browder,

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told the Home affairs Committee there was a lack of interest

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in prosecuting those involved in large-scale money laundering.

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Large amounts of that money was in the London

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The committee is investigating how the UK deals with

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It seems likely that in terms of money-laundering going through the

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UK system every year, it is at least ?100 billion,

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of which a proportion is corrupt money.

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In terms of where it goes, some of it uses the UK as a

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Some flows through to other destinations.

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Clearly one of the things that makes the UK

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attractive as a centre for money-laundering is its historic

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links with the overseas territories and Crown dependencies, because you

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can move money very quickly to jurisdictions that are very well

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linked, for whom your sort of bank of lawyers and accountants will have

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very close connections and easily set up shell companies and so on.

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The system we have at the moment is just shot full of holes.

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One of the other big supervisors that has quite a lot of

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As far as we can see, not doing a very good

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For example, they supervised the estate agents and if

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you take the thought that a lot of corrupt money goes into London

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property, there is the question, why aren't the estate agents reporting

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We have a niche role in that we prosecute a

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relatively small number of high value, high-profile cases.

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Those cases are significant in that they

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concern the most sophisticated criminals, or some of the most

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sophisticated criminals, that UK law enforcement deals with.

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What is important is that those who are

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convicted in those cases are seen to have as much of their proceeds of

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that activity confiscated as possible.

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authorities, to the Serious Fraud Office,

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through the Home Office to

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Do they know about what you have just told this

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We have filed, over the course of five years, we have now

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We filed a complaint with the Metropolitan

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Police in 2010 to investigate the organised crime group.

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Their response to us was that the

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responsibility to investigate the fraud does not lie within the

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We failed a complaint in 2012 with the

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They said they were not the appropriate body for the job.

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We filed a complaint with the Serious

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Fraud Office in 2012 to investigate this crime.

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They say matters do not fall within the offences that the

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Serious Fraud Office is permitted to investigate.

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So, basically, what you are saying is you went to a

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government agency about this very serious crime that you say has been

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Each one of them says it was not in their remit?

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I think that this country is levitating off of

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If that money was stopped, certain people would find

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themselves without businesses and I think those people have some

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I can't explain it any other way, because I have been to France.

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I am working very intimately with the French police.

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I am working with the Department of Justice.

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I am working with the Luxembourg police.

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Why is it so hard that the British authorities...?

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Do you think it is a fair judgment that quite an amount

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of dirty money is going into property, and particularly London?

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I would merely that wish to repeat that I don't think there is

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any problem with the rules and regulations, it is just that nobody

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is interested in enforcing them or appears to be enforcing them.

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If you go to most estate agents in London,

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certainly 12 months ago, still probably today, the majority

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think that their responsibilities only

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Meanwhile, issues of tax avoidance and tax evasion were also

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being debated in Westminster Hall, ahead of next week's

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Anti-Corruption Summit, which is taking place in London.

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The former chair of Parliament's public spending watchdog,

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Dame Margaret Hodge, talked about the need

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for greater transparency in tax havens, including

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British Overseas Territories, also known as Crown Dependencies.

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She said thousands of houses and flats in London were owned

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Tax havens are being used to hide money and to enable money

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laundering and corruption, yet the Prime Minister has failed

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to secure what I thought he was setting out to do, to ensure

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that the Crown dependencies and the overseas territories have

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registers of beneficial ownership that are open to the public.

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She said thousands of houses and flats in London were based offshore.

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That is a scandal, which hikes up property prices here in London

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Because that is at the top of the market, I am not sure

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whether that is taking away from many people in real housing

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need, but we therefore become the centre and focus of money

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laundering and bringing money into the London property market.

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As we have heard, the forthcoming anti-corruption summit presents

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a unique opportunity for world leaders, business and civil society

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to come together and advance the international transparency

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and the anti-corruption agenda in a way that we have

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the lead on this issue, because we are uniquely

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Our status as a pre-eminent global financial centre and the unfortunate

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financial secrecy touted by our overseas territories

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and Crown dependencies make the UK seem a safe haven for the proceeds

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of corruption and the individuals and organisations that facilitate

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and benefit from financial crime and tax evasion.

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The amount of money that goes

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uncollected and is therefore unavailable to Governments in Africa

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is greater than the amount of international aid that

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Here in our own country, the amount of tax that is evaded

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or avoided by those who should be paying it is estimated to be

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If the Government were so minded and were able to collect that money,

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it would be enough to do away with all the proposed cuts

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to welfare and social security that we have spent many hours

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debating over the past couple of years.

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We really need to get a grip on this.

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The revelations in the wake of the Panama papers show how much

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further we can go and how much further public opinion,

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although it has moved, still needs to move.

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I am sure that this topic will continue to develop

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and that the rules and regulations and, most importantly,

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the ethos and culture of international business,

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investment and ownership, will continue to change and tighten.

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You're watching our round-up of the day in

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Peers debate the merits of academisation in education.

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The collapse of British Home Stores is to be investigated

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The familiar high street shop has been placed in administration

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with debts of ?1.3 billion, including a pension

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11,000 jobs are at risk across 164 stores in the UK.

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The former owner of BHS, Sir Phillip Green, bought

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the business for ?200 million, but sold it last year.

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Questions were asked about the lack of retail experience

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The Business Secretary told MPs about the next step.

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I have written today to the Chief Executive

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I've instructed her to immediately commence an investigation.

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And I will make both those letters, mine and hers,

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available in libraries of both houses later today.

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Mr Speaker, that is good news, and I welcome the steps

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During Sir Philip Green's stewardship of BHS, the pension fund

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went from a surplus to a black hole of ?571 million.

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What options do the Government and Pensions Regulator

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now have to ensure that Sir Philip Green pays his fair share

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And does the secretary of state agree with me

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that the Pension Protection Fund was designed as a lifeboat

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not a funding stream for the owner's luxury yachts?

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Hopefully the Right Honourable Lady will understand it would be wrong

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of me and anyone else to single out any particular individual.

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That is for independent investigators to look at,

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by looking at the evidence in front of them.

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She will also know that when it comes to defined

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benefit pension schemes, there are many in deficit,

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just because one is in deficit, it doesn't necessarily mean

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there has been any kind of wrong doing.

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Again, this is an investigation that I have instructed today.

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Also, she can be reassured that the Pension Regulator will be

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A Health Minister says he's not ruling out a public inquiry

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into deaths at units run by Southern Health

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A Care Quality Commission - or CQC - report published at the end

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of April found the trust was still failing to protect

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That verdict followed an independent investigation in December

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which concluded it had failed to investigate hundreds

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The chairman of the trust resigned last week.

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But Labour's shadow Health Minister didn't think enough had changed,

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and said patients and parents had a right to be angry.

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To read the litany of failure, missed warnings, reports,

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recommendations ignored and secrecy over the last four years would make

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And Friday's CQC report shows that very little has been done

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since we last discussed this matter in this House in December.

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We should be angry that Conor Sparrowhawk was left

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We should be angry that Angela Smith took her own life.

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We should be angry that David West died in the care of this NHS Trust.

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His father was repeatedly ignored when he raised his concerns.

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All of them denied the care they so desperately needed.

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Last week, the BBC reported that over the past five years,

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12 patients, who had been detained for the safety of themselves

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or others, have jumped off the roof of a hospital run by this trust.

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Does he agree with me that the position of the chief

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executive is now untenable, and she should be sacked?

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Third, will he listen to the heartfelt pleas

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of the victims' families, campaigners and all of us

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who are demanding a full, public enquiry into Southern Health

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and the broader issues, such as the abject failure to adequately

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The minister agreed the report made "disturbing reading".

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There are things that seem to be discovered,

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I'm not content with that in any way at all.

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But the process is in place to do something about that.

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The engagement of CQC and the fact they ruled out no further options

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in terms of taking any further action, its options are quite

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extensive, including prosecution for things it has found.

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He wouldn't be drawn on the future of the Trust's Chief Executive.

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I want to wait and see what comes out of the further work that's

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I'm not ruling out some form of further enquiry,

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but remember, the enquiry is physically being

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done now by the action taking place on the ground.

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What needs to follow is urgent action to respond to

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Not a long, drawn-out public enquiry, which is not

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The failure of care for people with mental health, learning

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disabilities and autism has been shocking, and the board should go.

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Equally shocking is that 11 months before Conor Sparrowhawk's tragic

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and unecessary death, there was failures identified and

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What can the Minister do to ensure that as part

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of a robust inspection regime, when failures are identified,

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there are acted upon and done so very, very quickly to prevent

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The determination of myself and colleagues is to do whatever

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we can to breakdown those situations where people feel they have

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to fight for everything and they find closed doors against

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All too often in mental health, I think the lack appears to be that

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when people are challenged there is a defensiveness

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He explained the Government was taking steps to try to change that.

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These concerns have been expressed in the past,

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But I'm quite convinced the system is better placed to deal with them

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now and more seriously than was the case,

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What reassurance can he provide to my constituents,

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such as the family of David West, that the regulatory bodies

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have the powers necessary if intervention is required?

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The balances between ensuring there's continuity and stability,

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to make sure what the trust has promised is delivered,

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rather than a wholesale change which will simply provide

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opportunity for any further delay and prevent the work going on.

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The Speaker drew the urgent question to an end with these

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Perhaps on the half of the House, I can express the hope

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that the Hansard text of these exchanges will be supplied

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to Southern Health NHS Foundation Trust.

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They need to know that we have treated of them, and what has

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been said, politely, and would not want restraint,

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been said, politely, and with notable restraint,

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but with very real anxiety in all parts of the House

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We're not too far away from the Queen's Speech.

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The Government's legislative programme will be announced

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There'll be intense interest to see what it has to say about how

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the Government will force every state school to become an academy

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school, free from local authority control.

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It's known that some Conservative MPs have concerns about the idea.

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In the Lords, a Labour peer said academisation was appropriate

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But, he said, there was no evidence that conversion to an academy

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What counts a lot is hard work and clear plan for improvement,

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both of which can be achieved without convertion.

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The Government needs to accept it has failed to win the argument

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What they have achieved is a remarkable feat,

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because since the publication of the White Paper, we have seen

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the emergence of a broad alliance involving parents,

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head teachers, trade unions, local government leaders -

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both Labour and Conservative - and MPs - more than a few

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of whom are Conservatives - all impacably opposed

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Can the Minister tell the House who, apart from existing academy chains,

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has come out in favour of the White Paper proposals?

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The Sutton Trust have told us that sponsored academies are doing

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Ofsted said that attainment in sponsored academies has

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increased over the time, with the longest-standing academies

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My Lords, there has been considerable concern

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over poorly performing primary schools.

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How many have been taken over by academy sponsors,

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There are 960 primary sponsored academies open

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many of which suffered from chronic underperformance previously.

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I thought the question was how many organisations had come

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out in favour of every school being forced to become an academy?

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I thought in his answer, he gave us some comments that had

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But I'm not sure he answered that question?

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I don't think I did, and I don't think PR is my job.

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We make absolutely no apology for our belief in academies

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and multi-academy trusts, because of the substantial benefits

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in Academy freedoms and working closely together in close

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If noble Lords were to spend any time meeting with people who run

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academies or multi-academy trusts, seeing substantial benefits

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for the staff and pupils, that they would understand.

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Would the noble lord care to explain to the House when answering a direct

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And would the noble lord the Minister answer the concern

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of both local authority and church voluntary-aided schools

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Would he say that no small primary schools will be closed on financial

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grounds in his programme of academisation?

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No strong schools will close as a result of the White Paper.

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Indeed, we think many rural schools will be much stronger working

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And there are very strict rules about the closure of

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I would expect all of those considerations would continue

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in the future in relation to all rural schools.

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Leicester City has won football's Premiership title.

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The triumph of the East Midlands club is being seen as one

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of the more unlikely successes in the modern-day sporting world,

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The Mayor of Leicester said the achievement was even better

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for his city than the re-burying of King Richard III one year ago -

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the event that appeared to spark the dramatic turnaround

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The celebrations for the team that's known as the Foxes

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Mr Speaker, could I ask the secretary of state if he'd

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like to join me and other Leicester MPs, and many throughout the world,

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in congratulating Leicester City Football Club on winning

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Can I say to him, does he agree that this will boost jobs in, not

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just Leicester, but all of the Midlands region.

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Not just those interested in football, but also

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And does he accept that rather than call it Red Leicester any more,

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Mr Speaker, first, I like the sound of Blue Leicester,

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Let me congratulate him and most of all his constituents

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on their stunning victory last night.

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I think the whole nation celebrates that, and I suggest he makes

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That's full-time now for this programme.

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Do join me for the replay, when we have the next daily round-up.

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Until then, from me Keith Macdougall, goodbye.

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