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Hello and welcome to Tuesday In Parliament,

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our look at the best of the day in the Commons and the Lords.

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Expansion of Heathrow Airport is given the go-ahead

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Heathrow expansion is neithdr possible nor deliverable.

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It delivers the greatest economic and strategic

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May I congratulate my right honourable friend in taking

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the right decision in the interests of the United Kingdom?

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The Government should not be in the business

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MPs delve into so-called "revolving-door syndrome",

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when an ex-Minister gets a job in business after politics.

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Can you tell me what you've done in your two years in office

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that gives you satisfaction, where you served the public interdst?

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I take pleasure in every dax, Mr Flynn, as I'm sure

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And the Chancellor sounds a warning on Brexit.

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European politicians are very conscious of

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the impact of Britain's dep`rture and their political project.

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The Government has given its blessing to an expansion

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The decision has been long `waited, but it may not be final.

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Parliament will vote in a ydar's time on the third runway pl`n.

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There could still then be years of legal argument.

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Heathrow, Britain's only hub airport,

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is currently at 98% capacitx, handling 480,000 flights a xear

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That compares with 700,000 flights a year at Amsterdam,

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A third runway at Heathrow will cost around ?17 billion.

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Construction over the next decade could create 77,000 jobs.

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In the Commons, the Transport Secretary said the decision to

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go ahead with Heathrow expansion safeguarded the UK's prosperity

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Last year, Britain's airports handled

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Heathrow is the busiest two,runway airport in the world,

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and Gatwick the busiest single-runway airport.

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Indeed, the London system whll be almost entirely full by 2030,

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with the exception of a small amount of capacity at Luton,

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and that will be taken up soon afterwards.

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If we do nothing, the cost to our nation is significant,

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amounting to more than ?20 billion over 60 years through delays,

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fewer flights and passengers having to fly from airports elsewhdre.

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In addition, the wider impacts on our economy are in the rdgion

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That is why the decision we have reached today is so important

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He said the detailed study of the Airports Commission,

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led by the economist Howard Davies, recommended a new North-West

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The commission's report and the subsequent informathon

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formed the basis of the discussion that took place this morning

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As a result of that discusshon, the Government have decided

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We believe that the expansion of Heathrow airport

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and the north-west runway scheme, in combination with a significant

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package of supporting measures on the scale recommended

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by the Airports Commission, offers the greatest benefit

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to passengers and business, and will help us to deliver

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the broadest possible benefht to the whole United Kingdom.

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It delivers the greatest economic and strategic

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It strengthens connectivity for passengers right

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It offers a major boost to freight operators.

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It can be delivered within carbon and air quality limits

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and, crucially, it comes with world-leading measures

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to limit the impacts on those living nearby.

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There have been recent suggdstions in the media that the process has

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Members will remember the s`ga of the planning process

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behind Terminal 5, which took years to resolve.

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He said a consultation procdss will start in the New year.

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The issue of runway capacitx in the south-east has

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challenged successive Administrations for decades.

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There are strong feelings both for and against

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This is not the scheme that was previously promoted in 2009.

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It does much more to mitigate environmental impacts,

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to compensate communities and to distribute benefits

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Today's announcement is not the end of the process,

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It beggars belief that it h`s taken Ministers more than a year

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since the publication of thd Davies report even to make a start.

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Just what have they been dohng for all these months,

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apart from worrying about splits in the Cabinet,

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and the Foreign Secretary throwing himself in front

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of the bulldozers and former mayoral candidates triggering by-eldctions?

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There is no justification for dithering on this scale.

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He has failed to provide the shorter timescale

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for getting to the national policy statement that was set out

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The lack of a vote in this House for more than a year will not allow

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and the soap opera will therefore continue.

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That said, we welcome the announcement of Heathrow

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Although airport expansion of this type disproportionately bendfits

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the south-east of England, it has strategic consequencds

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Mr Speaker, I congratulate ly right honourable friend for taking

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the right decision in the interest of the United Kingdom.

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Could he remind the House how much passenger traffic

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much freight traffic is currently being lost to mainland European

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airports as a result of lack of capacity in the south-east?

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I believe that this decision is misguided and not ultimately

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Will the Secretary of State assure me that in the consultation

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and scrutiny to come there will be good and adequate scientific data,

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because the evidence will show that Heathrow expansion is neithdr

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In the Minister's words, we do not want expansion "at any cost" -

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this is the wrong scheme and the price is too high.

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The decision to build a new runway at Heathrow is the right ond,

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but it is absolutely vital that the Secretary of State delivers

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on his pledge to ensure that the benefits of expanshon

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are felt in every nation and region of the UK.

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As the chair of the Gatwick co-ordination group,

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I congratulate my right honourable friend on this announcement and make

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with which this somewhat ovdrdue statement will be received

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by all the people representdd by colleagues in the group.

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The Government have chosen ` course that is not only wrong but doomed.

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It is wrong because of the lillion people who will suffer

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directly on the back of the environmental harm this

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It is doomed because the complexities, cost and legal

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complications mean that the project is almost certainly not

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I believe it will be a millstone around the Government's neck

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for many years to come - a constant source of delay,

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Is not the biggest loser from the Tory civil war

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over Heathrow neither the Foreign Secretary nor the honourabld

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member for Richmond Park but transport everywhere else?

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For over five years, there has been an obsessive focus

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While welcoming this decision, may I ask the Homd

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Counties-based Cabinet to lhsten to what William Hague has s`id

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today, and set out in the attumn statement a clear timetable for HS3,

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linking Manchester Airport to the great cities of the north?

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This is a devastating decishon for the national economic interest

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as well as for my constituents, hundreds of whose homes will be

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bulldozed, and for the millhons of people affected by the vdry loud

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This statement has been long overdue.

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Some countries will have developed three entire nuclear power stations

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and five airports in the amount of time this has taken to bd kicked

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into the long grass by two Labour Prime Ministers and H am

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afraid a Conservative Prime Minister too.

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I do not share this cosy consensus on airport expansion.

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Half the population each year does not fly -

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for environmental reasons, I have not flown for several years.

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The Secretary of State said today that this expansion would

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Because of climate change, the Government should not bd

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in the business of encouraghng people to fly and encouraging more

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air freight, let alone subshdising increased airport capacity

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I urge the Secretary of State and the Government to think again.

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Why are the Government disrdgarding "widespread hostility",

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and bulldozing through a thhrd runway which will inflict

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crippling noise, significant climate change effects,

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health-damaging pollution and catastrophic congestion

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Because we do not believe that it is going to do thosd

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things, because we do not bdlieve that it will create the air

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because we do not believe that it will impose

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I have already explained the position

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relating to public transport access and improved

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And there was also plenty of reaction to the Heathrow

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expansion announcement over in the House of Lords.

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Many young people at the job centres in West London know how important

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that skilled employment is at Heathrow.

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So I do say, let's get on whth it and make a plea to those people

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who are opposed to it to look at the depth and qu`lity

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of the evidence in favour from business, from trade unions -

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all the trade unions bar one, all of them -

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and say this project needs to go ahead.

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With all of business crying out for this to happen and yet

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all this opposition, there is going to be a lot

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Why didn't the Government then go ahead, as my noble friend s`id

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earlier, and allow Gatwick and Heathrow to expand?

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The Gatwick expansion, wouldn't the noble lord agrde,

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Will my noble friend considdr that expanding Heathrow will increase

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foreign monopoly and power, and we can airport competithon

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It will affect hundreds of thousands more people than Gatwick wotld have,

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it will add to safety and sdcurity risks by sending hundreds

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of thousands more flights over our most densely populated areas,

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it will cost ?8,000 million, at least, more

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than the proposed Gatwick option, and it will take longer to build

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than the proposed Gatwick option, keeping Britain closed

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I must declare an interest as living under the flight path

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the Heathrow Association of the Control of Aircraft Noise.

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The announcement acknowledgds that the current constraints

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by talking about more reliable respite.

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The Minister will be aware that the measurements

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of noise do not accord with the residents' experience.

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I'm sure he will also agree that the best predictor

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A Bill designed to help clalp down on money-laundering

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and prevent the financing of terrorist activity has bden given

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The Criminal Finances Bill hs also aimed increasing the retrieval rate

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It creates so-called "unexplained wealth orders" which may repuire

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an individual to explain thd sources of his or her wealth.

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The Commons has held its first debate

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Some of the most expensive properties in the capital

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are unoccupied because they have been bought solely for the purpose

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So, in 2016, money-laundering is something that is not just

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happening in accountancy offices or in the back rooms of banks,

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it is happening in plain sight of ordinary Londoners.

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Because we see some of the lost expensive domestic propertids

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in the world change hands, but remain mysteriously

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We should be rightly proud of the UK's status

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This is the one of the best places in the world to do business,

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but we must recognise the shze of our financial sector and open

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economy and the attractivendss of London property market

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to overseas investors makes this country unusually exposed

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to the risks of internation`l money-laundering.

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That is why the Government hs taking action to combat money-laundering,

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terrorist finance and corruption here and overseas.

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We are sending a clear mess`ge that we will not stand

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for money-laundering or the funding of terrorism through the UK.

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After the global financial crisis, property in London

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has become one of the safest investments in the world,

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one which rich criminals and money-launderers attracted

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to in just the same way as people who have made their

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Put shortly, Londoners want this stain removing from their chty,

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We will not trigger a divishon on this Bill this evening,

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but we want to reiterate very, very firmly that this Bill does not

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go anywhere near far enough in dealing with what I think

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is a real and tangible outcry from the public,

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given what has happened over the last five, six, seven ydars

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If we are serious about maintaining and creating confidence

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in the banking system again, which has completely evapor`ted

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then we need to tackle this issue head on and do more

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You're watching our round-up of the day in the Commons and the Lords.

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Still to come: Are too many ex-Government Ministers takhng up

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jobs in the business world secured because of their days

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The Chancellor has warned MPs not to assume that the negotiathons

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on the UK's exit from the European Union will onlx be

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Britain's departure, he said, would impact on EU's

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He also gave a warning that leaving the European single market

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for goods and services - the so-called Hard Brexit option -

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could be "quite challenging" for British firms.

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The subject was raised by the SNP's spokesman.

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What efforts is the Chancellor making to rule out a hard Brexit,

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with visas, tariff barriers and an end to the customs union

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all of which the Treasury s`ys could lead to the loss

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of ?66 billion of revenue, a reduction in GDP of around 7. %

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and a threat, estimated conservatively, to

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The Prime Minister has been very clear.

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We understand the instructions that we have received

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from the British people, and within our obligation to deliver

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those we will seek to get the very best deal we can

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with the European Union that maximises the amount of trade

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in goods and services between our companies

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and the markets of the European Union, and between European

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Financial services are one of the sectors most exposed

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to Brexit, but it is not just jobs in Canary Wharf and the squ`re

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mile that are at risk; it is jobs throughout the UK,

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in Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, Edinburgh and beyond.

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The messages that the Government have sent so far have been

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Firms need assurance that they will get comparable access

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to the single market and thd ability to retain EU nationals

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Will the Chancellor help finally to put an end to his Governlent s

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chaos today and make a promise to deliver both?

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The honourable gentleman is right to identify financial

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services as one of the areas that is particularly concerned

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about the way in which the dxit from the European Union is lanaged,

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because the industry is particularly dependent on the passporting

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He is also right to draw attention to the often overlooked fact that

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75% of financial services jobs are outside London.

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This is an important UK-wide industry.

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Financial services, he said, would be at the heart

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We understand their need for market access.

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We also understand their nedd to be able to engage the right

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I have said on the record - I am happy to say this again today -

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that I do not believe that the concerns the British people

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have expressed about migrathon from the European Union rel`te

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to those with high skills and high pay.

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The problem that people are concerned about relates to those

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I see no likelihood of our tsing powers to control migration

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into the UK to prevent comp`nies from bringing highly skilled,

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Unless, bizarrely, the European Union were to hmpose

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trade sanctions on the UK, there would be absolutely nothing

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to prevent us from having access to the single market

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My honourable friend is right in the sense that every

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nation that is a member of the World Trade Organisation

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as we are, has the right to access other members' markets on WTO terms.

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However, WTO terms would be quite challenging

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For example, in the automothve industry, WTO terms imply

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a 10% tariff on cars entering other markets.

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May I suggest that as there is a large balance of payments

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deficit with Europe, specifically in the automothve

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sector, it would be in the DU's interest to strike a decent deal

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Our intention is to get the very best deal we can with our ndighbours

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in the European Union to allow access for our companies

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to trade their goods and services into the EU.

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However, I would just caution my honourable Friend:

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to look at the economic argtments alone is to miss an important point.

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There is a political debate going on here in Europe,

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and European politicians ard very conscious of the impact

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of Britain's departure on their political project.

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I do not think we can be certain that economics alone will dhctate

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A year ago it was learnt th`t more than a dozen politicians

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who were Ministers during the years of the Con-Lib-Dem Coalition

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Government had accepted poshtions with companies and charities they'd

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come across in their ministerial roles.

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The disclosure led to calls for tighter controls on what's known

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as the "revolving door" between politics and the business

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world, by which ex-Ministers are able to gain employment thanks

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to contacts they've made during their ministerial ye`rs.

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Already in place is a body called Acoba, or the Advisory Commhttee

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But when its chairman came `long to a Commons committee hearhng,

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MPs questioned whether Acob` was achieving very much.

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We've preferred to Private dye before and in their report, public

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servants and private paydays, they said that 367 jobs, which h`ve

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sought clearance from Acoba since 2010, zero times Acoba has refused

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them. Given that, as evidence of your organisation, how good are you

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in policing? We're not a regulatory body, with an advisory body. I have

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to cite two things. We had `n advisory body, not a regulatory

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body. We don't have the powdr to deprive people of employment, that

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is backed up by the restraint of trade law that we have to bdar in

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mind. If you're asking me, why don't we just let these things run their

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course and go to court as the most certainly would, I suspect

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applicants would certainly have .. I think there is indication from

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monetary cases we dealt with, would have their financial backing of the

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people who wanted to employ them to mount a legal challenge. How many

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times have you advised formdr ministers that what they were

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proposing to terms of the job was unacceptable? Where would the public

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find that information? Everxthing is in the public domain. Most of the

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things in the press are onlx there because Acoba has a website that we

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publish on. It couldn't be lore transparent. When you say mhnisters,

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we obviously apply different rules in individual cases, to Wii make

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2-to-1 minister, wait for shx months -- we might see to one minister --

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say, wait for six months, that is the way we can get them to lodify

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any potential behaviour that they might have had in taking up the

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post, but we haven't got thd power to tell somebody they cannot do

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they cannot work. They could just shrug their shoulders and s`y OK,

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but in the main, people comd to Acoba and they take our advhce.

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Isn't it to the ultimate power you have is the same as people who

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ignore your together, the stmmit of your powers is to send a letter to

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them expressing your disple`sure? We add an advisory committee, not

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regulatory. I can't repeat that enough. We had an advisory

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committee. I'm well aware of that, but due to years in office, is a

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giddy satisfaction to serve the public interest? I take in ht every

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day -- I take pleasure in it. We worked diligently and ethic`lly I'm

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trying to get to the numbers. Is Acoba doing anything good you said

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you have made a lot of defence is about Acoba and the people there and

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there are rights of work. How is the public interest being served by

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Acoba in preventing the abuse of the revolving door? We have considered

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each individual case and those that take up the advice and who take up

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the job, we have put that into the public domain. Had we not done that,

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if we didn't do that as Acoba, these things would be a secret and down to

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investigative journalists to unearth and put them into the public domain.

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Investigative journalists don't need to do that, they only have to visit

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our website. Earlier this month,

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Sir Cliff Richard came to P`rliament to ask MPs and peers to grant

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anonymity to people The singer says he fears he will be

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forever "tainted" by false allegations made

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against him two years ago. In June, the Crown Prosecuthon

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Service announced it would bring no charges

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after a lengthy police inquhry. In the House of Lords,

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a senior Conservative voiced concerns about the ease

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with which the reputations of In relation to allegations of sexual

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abuse, does my noble friend agree that many people are asking

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themselves and Members of both Houses of Parliament

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whether the presumption of hnnocence until proved guilty

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is still in existence? Is it not our duty to take `ction -

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either by instituting anonylity until the point of charge,

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as backed by the Director of Public Prosecutions last week,

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or by other effective means - to reduce the terrible toll

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of suffering caused by falsd and malicious allegations

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against innocent people Finally, do the Government `gree

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that the institutions of both state and church need to show much greater

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concern for the reputations of eminent people from the past

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who cannot speak for themselves It is important to say

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that there is a very fine The voicing of victims' concerns

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and the naming of people in the public interest to allow

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further evidence or further victims to come forward needs to be balanced

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with the right to privacy and protection of the person

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who is suspected. Do join me for our

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next daily round-up. Until then, from me,

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Keith Macdougall, goodbye.

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