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Hello it's Thursday, it's 9.15, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria, | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn will finalise his front bench today | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
after shadow ministers announced their resignations. | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
But the dispute between the party's factions boils over online. | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
It sparked three days of violence in France a year | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
on from the shooting at the satirical magazine | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
Charlie Hebdo; the wife of one of the victims tells us | :00:32. | :00:33. | |
the authorities didn't learn enough lessons to prevent further | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
TRANSLATION: We should have anticipated an attack could have | :00:37. | :00:45. | |
taken place and put it under surveillance then organise | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
themselves so when an attack happened there wouldn't be any | :00:49. | :00:49. | |
panic. Also ahead, why loneliness | :00:50. | :00:50. | |
is being described as a new epidemic It's Difficult to admit you're | :00:51. | :01:11. | |
lonely to other people but it's also difficult to admit it to yourself. | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
We're on BBC 2, the BBC News Channel and online until 11 this morning. | :01:16. | :01:29. | |
We'll keep you across the latest breaking and developing stories. | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
A little later we'll be hearing from our political guru Norman Smith | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
as Jeremy Corbyn is expected to finalise his Labour frontbench | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
team today a job he thought he'd finished in the early hours | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
That was before three shadow ministers announced | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
And now it seems the dispute between Labour's various factions | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
We really value your comments throughout the morning so do | :01:49. | :01:55. | |
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And of course you can watch the programme online wherever | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
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by going to add topics and searching Victoria Derbyshire. | :02:10. | :02:11. | |
First this morning a year ago today Islamist killers attacked | :02:12. | :02:13. | |
the offices of Charlie Hebdo, the satirical French magazine. | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
It sparked three days of violence across France leaving 17 people | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
dead, and bringing thousands of people out onto the streets | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
across the world in support of freedom of expression. | :02:26. | :02:42. | |
At 11:30am on Wednesday, January 7th, a black Citroen drove | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
up to the Charlie Hebdo building in Paris. | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
Two masked gunmen entered the newsroom | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
12 people were killed. Seven were wounded. | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
Eyewitnesses described carnage at the scene. | :02:56. | :02:57. | |
Watched by onlookers, the gunmen escaped, shooting | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
a policeman at point-blank range as they went. | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
The attackers hijacked a car and disappeared, | :03:04. | :03:05. | |
At about 8:45am local time the following day, | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
as police continued their search for the | :03:12. | :03:13. | |
Charlie Hebdo attack suspects, a lone gunman shot two people | :03:14. | :03:15. | |
in the southern Paris suburb of Montrouge before fleeing. | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
The French authorities initially dismissed any | :03:19. | :03:20. | |
suggestion of a link between the shooting | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
and the Charlie Hebdo killings, but later confirmed | :03:24. | :03:25. | |
A major breakthrough in the hunt for the | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
Charlie Hebdo suspects came at about 10:30am that day, | :03:31. | :03:32. | |
when they robbed a service station north-east of Paris. | :03:33. | :03:35. | |
It took the police searched the small village of Longpont, | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
where homes were sealed off and searched. | :03:39. | :03:40. | |
Police were getting closer to their two wanted men, | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
On the morning of the 9th the manhunt entered its | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
final stage, as police closed in on the suspects, | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
who were holed up in a printing works in Dammartin-en-Goele, | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
Elite forces deployed snipers, helicopters and military equipment, | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
sealing off any means of escape, beginning a tense, | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
Just before 5pm local time, the impasse ended as smoke was seen | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
rising from the print works amid explosions and gunfire. | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
The two brothers, who had told local media they would die martyrs' | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
deaths, emerged from the building firing at police. | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
Both suspects were killed and two police officers were injured. | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
Meanwhile in Paris, another siege was under way as a gunman took | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
several people hostage at a kosher supermarket at Porte de Vincennes | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
in the east of Paris after a shoot-out. | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
Police quickly surrounded the building. | :04:35. | :04:36. | |
Amedy Coulibaly was identified as the hostage-taker and was killed | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
by Special Forces as they entered the store, freeing 15 hostages. | :04:41. | :04:49. | |
Three days of terror came to a close, but the world became | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
united in support for freedom of speech. | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
Thousands took to the streets of Paris in a show of defiance. | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
World leaders walked hand-in-hand as people declared, | :04:59. | :05:10. | |
The widow of one of the men killed in the Charlie Hebdo attack has told | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
this programme that the French government still has lessons | :05:15. | :05:16. | |
Georges Wolinski was one of France's best known cartoonists. | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
He was taking part in the magazine's editorial meeting with other members | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
of staff when the attackers arrived and opened fire. | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
Maryse Wolinski, his widow, told us she still feels "angry | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
and very fragile" a year on from the attack. | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
TRANSLATION: My year began with the news that my husband | :05:35. | :06:01. | |
Above all, I was in a state of devastation, stupor. | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
A state of denial, which continued after I shut myself off | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
And I asked myself the question that seemed | :06:12. | :06:27. | |
How could such an attack, a massacre, have happened | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
in the offices of a satirical magazine that had been considered | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
sensitive or at risk for a number of years? | :06:36. | :06:47. | |
Why wasn't Charlie Hebdo under surveillance? | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
Why didn't the police arrive before the massacre took place? | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
Why hadn't the magazine put in place measures they had been told to, | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
And I did a sort of investigation into all these questions. | :06:57. | :07:11. | |
And afterwards, when I got my notes together, there was this phrase | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
It was the last sentence of my husband. | :07:15. | :07:25. | |
We would have breakfast together, look at our diaries to see | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
what we were doing together, and indeed we were meant | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
to have an appointment at four o'clock to visit an apartment. | :07:35. | :07:36. | |
After that, we let each other get ready. | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
I was in my bathrobe when he came to me to say, | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
I looked at him, I don't remember if I kissed him... | :07:43. | :07:52. | |
And that sentence, "Darling, I'm off to Charlie". | :07:53. | :08:02. | |
They were my husband's last words to me. | :08:03. | :08:12. | |
They remind me of everything about my husband. | :08:13. | :08:20. | |
They remind me of my husband, who dedicated 50 years of his life | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
They remind me of everything about my husband. | :08:27. | :08:35. | |
I was in a taxi when I learned about the attack. | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
When I was returning home, this taxi driver, he was very kind, | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
And through his tears, I saw the death of my husband. | :08:44. | :08:51. | |
When I got home, I felt like a ball of fire was inside me. | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
And I understood then that something had ended. | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
Because I said to myself, they haven't learned the lessons | :09:01. | :09:37. | |
The place which was considered a soft target, I'm talking | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
about the Bataclan, wasn't protected. | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
And the attack left 130 people dead before the police had arrived. | :09:47. | :10:08. | |
They should have anticipated that an attack could take place | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
and at least put it under surveillance. | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
And then organise themselves so that, when an attack happened, | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
And also to understand that you shouldn't abandon | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
mourning relatives to look for their children, their husbands | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
Unfortunately, I have to live with the memories. | :10:32. | :10:45. | |
It's what I always used to say to my husband. | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
When my mother died, I told him, "You become nothing more | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
than a photo in a frame - it's what happens". | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
So the future makes me feel very fragile, because I never asked | :11:00. | :11:01. | |
myself that question when I was with my husband. | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
Because, you know, we had lived together more than 47 years. | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
I met him when I was 21, so I've always lived | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
So how will I live now, without him looking at me? | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
Without the conversations we had? Without his advice? | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
And it's that that's difficult, and it makes me feel a bit fragile. | :11:24. | :11:34. | |
My husband still makes me laugh when I look at his cartoons. | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
For example, I found this sentence a few days ago | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
I believe in nothing, but if God left me a message | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
on my answerphone, that would make me happy. | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
So my husband continues to make me laugh with his cartoons, | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
Official ceremonies to mark the anniversary are being held | :11:57. | :12:11. | |
President Francois Hollande will address members of the security | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
forces at the police headquarters in Paris later today. | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
He's expected to give details of plannned changes to the law, | :12:20. | :12:22. | |
including stronger stop-and-search powers for police. | :12:23. | :12:25. | |
Meanwhile Charlie Hebdo has printed a million copies of its anniversary | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
edition which features a cartoon of a gun-toting, | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
God-like figures and the words: "one year on - | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
You can of course watch and share those films again | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
Still to come: Has Cologne become a no-go zone for women? | :12:46. | :12:57. | |
We speak two women in the city after a string of New Year sexual | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
attacks has left inhabitants terrified. | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
And we'll be discussing plans which could see crucial GCSE | :13:08. | :13:10. | |
and A-level exams being rescheduled, to avoid clashing with the height | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
The Chancellor, George Osborne, is to warn that the economy | :13:15. | :13:26. | |
is facing a "dangerous cocktail" of new threats this year, | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
In contrast to the upbeat tone of his Autumn Statement six weeks | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
ago, Mr Osborne will tell business leaders that Britain risks | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
going into decline if it eases up on austerity. | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
The chief executive of Marks and Spencer, Marc Bolland, | :13:45. | :13:47. | |
has insisted he's not stepping down early due to disappointing sales. | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
He announced his departure this morning as the company reported | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
that sales of general merchandise, including clothes, fell by nearly | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
6% in the three months to the end of December. | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
Trading has been halted on China's stock markets for the second time | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
this week after share prices plunged by more than seven %. | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
An automatic shutdown took place after just half an hour of trading. | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
The mechanism was introduced after the stock market crash | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
Today marks one year since the attacks by Islamist gunmen | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
on the satirical French magazine, Charlie Hebdo. | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
12 people were killed, including a policeman outside, | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
and five other people were killed in co-ordinated attacks afterwards. | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
The US Presidential hopeful Donald Trump has warned | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
he will withdraw ?700 million of investment | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
in his championship golf courses in Scotland if he is banned | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
MPs are due to debate whether the Republican politician | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
and businessman should be refused entry. | :14:49. | :14:51. | |
Last month Mr Trump called for a ban on Muslims coming to America. | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
The biggest ever UK lottery jackpot went unclaimed again last night. | :14:57. | :14:58. | |
Operator Camelot said it sold about 200 tickets a second | :14:59. | :15:01. | |
in the hour before sales closed, leading the website to crash. | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
The new estimated jackpot for Saturday is ?57.8 million. | :15:05. | :15:12. | |
Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Catherine Downes. | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
The campaigning is in full swing for a new head of Fifa, | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
and Prince Ali says he's the man for the job. | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
That is right, the politics rumbles on at Fifa. Next month there will be | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
an election to find a new president after Sepp Blatter was removed in a | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
storm of controversy. Prince Ali says he is the man tough enough to | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
bring around real change. We will be hearing from him a little later on. | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
We will also have the latest on the case of Dr Eva Carneiro against | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
Chelsea, she has brought a case of constructive dismissal against the | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
club, who dropped from first-team duties after she ran onto the pitch | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
season to treat a player, leaving them with nine men on the field. We | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
also have League Cup football results and some tennis results from | :16:05. | :16:07. | |
down under. Later on in the programme as well I will speak to | :16:08. | :16:11. | |
will Bailey, a table tennis player who won silver at the London | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
Paralympics, he will be coming in to tell us who the big stars will be | :16:16. | :16:18. | |
for the British team ahead of the real Olympics coming up this summer, | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
and telling us how we can get behind them as supporters for that team as | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
well. All of that coming up after 10am. | :16:27. | :16:33. | |
Thank you, see you later. The Co-op Group is facing serious charges at | :16:34. | :16:36. | |
an employment tribunal today brought by a woman who used to be a big boss | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
there. She was the former group procurement director and claims she | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
was unfairly dismissed after discovering and reporting wrongdoing | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
at the group. She is seeking more than ?5 million in damages. Our | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
legal eagle Clive Coleman is here. Tell us more about it? | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
It is high profile, these are serious allegations. Let's recall | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
some of the history of the troubled Co-op Group. In 2013A1 5p black hole | :17:05. | :17:10. | |
was found in the Co-op Bank's finances, which led to a billion | :17:11. | :17:17. | |
loss for the group as a whole in 2013. 2013. -- led to a ?2.5 billion | :17:18. | :17:28. | |
loss. One of the chief executive stepped down because of issues | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
related to expenses and was subsequently convicted for | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
possession of drugs. Off the back of all of that trouble, the Co-op were | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
clearly looking to cut costs to get their business by contract. They | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
hired Kath Harmeston, head hunted her from the Royal Mail. She had | :17:45. | :17:51. | |
been instrumental there in achieving ?650 million in cost-cutting. They | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
took her on but it was not a happy relationship. She claims that she | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
was unfairly sacked because she reported, disclosed that there was | :18:01. | :18:05. | |
wrongful corporate wrongdoing taking place at the Co-op, and as a result | :18:06. | :18:15. | |
of that she made what is known as predicted, anyone of us, you what I, | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
if we make disclosures about things that are wrong at work, it is called | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
protected disclosures, and she says she was unfairly sacked. It is a TUI | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
case beginning today in which she will detail the allegations and | :18:30. | :18:32. | |
there is some senior top brass from the Co-op also giving evidence. | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
Looking back over an uncomfortable recent past for the Co-op. What is | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
the scope of the Co-op? It is not fair to determine, under | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
the act, the basis on which you can make these protected disclosures if | :18:47. | :18:49. | |
you say they are criminal offences taking place or if someone was in | :18:50. | :18:59. | |
breach of a legal duty, what the tribunal cannot do is determine | :19:00. | :19:01. | |
whether there was criminality or breach of a legal duty. What it is | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
there to do is determine whether Kath Harmeston honestly and | :19:05. | :19:06. | |
reasonably believed that those things were taking place, and | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
therefore made protected disclosures, and, if, as a result of | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
making those, she was sacked, that would be unfair dismissal and they | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
would award the appropriate result because of that. | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
Keep us updated as it goes along. Briefly, the Co-op strenuously deny | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
her allegations. We will hear more from you | :19:28. | :19:29. | |
throughout the tribunal, no doubt. Germany is in a state of some shock | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
at events on New Year's Eve in Cologne and some | :19:33. | :19:35. | |
other big cities. It was more than rowdy behaviour - | :19:36. | :19:37. | |
there was intimidation of women, thefts, groping and sexual attacks | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
and fireworks were dangerously And it seems to have been | :19:41. | :19:42. | |
perpetrated by large gangs of young To a country that has been | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
so welcoming to refugees, it's led to some deep soul-searching | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
and it's divided opinion. Amid concerns that Cologne has | :19:52. | :19:54. | |
become a "no-go area for women" the mayor has also been criticised | :19:55. | :20:00. | |
for proposing a code of conduct that women should follow | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
to avoid being assaulted. These women have talked | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
about what happened to them. TRANSLATION: All of a sudden, these | :20:10. | :20:11. | |
men around us began groping us. They touched our behinds | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
and walked in step with us. So my girlfriend and I wanted | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
to get out of the crowd. When I turned around, | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
one guy grabbed my bag and ripped it I thought to myself that | :20:21. | :20:23. | |
if we stay here in this crowd, they could kill us, they could rape | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
us and nobody would notice. I thought we simply | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
had to accept it. There was no-one around us | :20:31. | :20:32. | |
who helped or was in TRANSLATION: They felt | :20:33. | :20:34. | |
like they were in power and they could do anything | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
with the women who were out They touched us everywhere. | :20:40. | :20:42. | |
It was truly terrible. We ran to these police cars | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
but there was no-one there. We knew very well that | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
at that moment the police were so understaffed | :20:54. | :20:55. | |
that they couldn't deal with this, so us women had to go | :20:56. | :20:58. | |
through something like that. Let's speak to Julia Hiltscher, | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
a mum who lives in Cologne. And Mirle Heinzen, who also lives | :21:04. | :21:06. | |
in the city and was sexually Thank you both for joining us. The | :21:07. | :21:19. | |
events of New Year's Eve particularly shocking. Mirle, you | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
have been attacked previously. Tell us your experiences and how it makes | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
you feel now in the light of what happened on New Year's Eve? Last | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
July I went out with some girlfriends and at about 1am I had a | :21:32. | :21:40. | |
gentleman follow me home and thought he would disappear, because it | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
actually happens quite a lot, if you walk or cycle home at night people | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
will approach you and talk to you and they think it is fun and games | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
and then they disappear, but he actually followed me home, I thought | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
he would leave but he jumped in my front door, put his foot in the | :21:58. | :22:02. | |
door, held it open and attacked me from behind. I screamed at the top | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
of my lungs, I picked, I scratched, and eventually I got rid of him. I | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
had pepper spray which I tried to use which he managed to take off me, | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
but I think seeing the pepper spray he realised he was not going to get | :22:20. | :22:28. | |
anywhere with me and I was lucky. I was wearing a lot of layers and he | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
had a hard time trying to get anywhere with me, he couldn't get | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
his hands down my pants, which he tried, so after leaving I called the | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
police and they were brilliant, the way they treated me, they way they | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
tried to investigate. I'm impressed with the way the cops are treating | :22:47. | :22:53. | |
the situation. You said it is quite common to be followed around. What | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
happened on New Year's Eve obviously was particularly brazen. Do you make | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
a link with the people who are doing all of these, following this sort of | :23:04. | :23:12. | |
behaviour? Yes and no. To be honest, the people I have been approached by | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
have, by and large, been of northern African or Arabic descent, but the | :23:17. | :23:23. | |
group on New Year's Eve I think was a completely different kettle of | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
fish altogether, just because that was sort of organised and it was | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
large groups of people that were doing it, whereas the incidents that | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
have happened to me in that style have always been isolated, | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
individual incidents. Because they usually go away you get lulled into | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
a false sense of security. As long as you are aware and make sure that | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
you are not stupid about it, don't go home by yourself, have | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
protection, have a whistle, take a taxi, I think a lot of it can be | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
avoided and I think New Year's Eve was different because it was a large | :23:57. | :23:59. | |
group and difficult to get away from. Is it a relatively recent | :24:00. | :24:06. | |
phenomenon? It is a large city, this is always sort of happened, but I | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
have lived in Cologne for four years, it has got worse in the last | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
year, I have been approached about ten times more than I had in the | :24:17. | :24:19. | |
previous three years. What do you put that down to? It is difficult to | :24:20. | :24:27. | |
say. I do think there is probably an increase in population, foreign | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
population, but more importantly I think it becomes a self-fulfilling | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
prophecy because if the media and general community keep going on and | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
on about how these gentlemen attack ladies then I think they will just | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
think, this is what is expected, we can get away with it, that is what | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
people think anyway. So I think there is a lot to be said for | :24:52. | :24:59. | |
people... The more it gets spread in the media or amongst communities, | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
social media, the more people are going to get those ideas. Mirle, we | :25:04. | :25:09. | |
are having some trouble hearing you so we will try to fix that. We will | :25:10. | :25:12. | |
bring in Julia, hopefully we can bring you back in in a moment. | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
Julia, tell us your experiences, have you seen anything like this? I | :25:18. | :25:26. | |
have to say I haven't noticed any changes, but I have been out and | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
about with my baby for the past 14 months, so I go out by day, mostly, | :25:33. | :25:39. | |
not by night will stop before I had my daughter I was always coming home | :25:40. | :25:45. | |
very late and I was always walking home on foot for an hour and didn't | :25:46. | :25:55. | |
notice anything. I hope that this incident at the main station is just | :25:56. | :26:03. | |
a very bad incident that is not happening more often now. We can | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
just see your Child peeking into view there, having a good old play | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
as you chat to us. You are saying that you have not particularly seen | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
much going on. Do you feel vulnerable, having read about what | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
happened on New Year's Eve and seeing the pictures? Just yesterday | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
and Arab looking guy helped me with my stroller, and I don't know if it | :26:27. | :26:36. | |
is, like, what kind of people, everybody can do bad things, not | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
just Arab looking people. I feel very safe in the underground still, | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
I'm going on the underground with my daughter every day, and I hope that | :26:45. | :26:52. | |
a few people will not change and I hope the police will be | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
investigating in this particular case, they said there are 70 more | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
policemen now working on this case to find out who did this on New | :27:01. | :27:07. | |
Year's Eve and I hope that they will find the people who are responsible | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
for this. Germany has obviously welcomed a lot of migrants over the | :27:13. | :27:15. | |
last year, more than a million over the last year. From the people who | :27:16. | :27:22. | |
you know, are the sorts of incidents impacting on the way people are | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
feeling about that migration? I feel like people have become more caring | :27:28. | :27:35. | |
and more friendly. There are lots of refugees coming here, at the same | :27:36. | :27:41. | |
time I think neo-Nazis are using this incident to kind of jump on the | :27:42. | :27:50. | |
bandwagon and use it for their propaganda, especially on social | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
media, and that scares me, and I hope that people of Cologne will | :27:54. | :28:03. | |
stay strong and not be fooled by people who are victimised in, people | :28:04. | :28:11. | |
who are scapegoating people who are not to be blamed. Mirle, has it had | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
an impact on how you view immigration? To be honest, no. I am | :28:17. | :28:22. | |
very fortunate in that I have a very large group of friends and most of | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
them are foreigners, including myself. I love the culture of | :28:26. | :28:35. | |
diversity that you get in Cologne, so it is actually a very, very cool | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
place to live in terms of all the different nationalities you have in | :28:40. | :28:42. | |
one place. What it does impact is the way that you sort of approach | :28:43. | :28:47. | |
particular individuals, so whether you want to or not once you have had | :28:48. | :28:52. | |
an experience like that if you see a guy late at night with a slightly | :28:53. | :28:59. | |
darker skin colour, you will sort of stay out of his way. What do you | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
both think about the way the authorities are dealing with this? | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
The comments from the mouth Cologne sailing that women should not be any | :29:09. | :29:13. | |
closer than arm's-length to strangers -- comments from the Mayor | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
of Cologne. Is that a helpful message? I think it was taken out of | :29:18. | :29:24. | |
context, she didn't mean to say it this way. Of course, the victims are | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
not to be blamed, and I think she sees it the same way and it was a | :29:30. | :29:35. | |
very unlucky way that she put it and the way it was taken out of the | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
interview, out of context. Of course she wants to find the people who did | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
this and who are responsible, and she doesn't want victim blaming | :29:44. | :29:55. | |
going on there. Mirle, what do you think? Have you changed your | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
behaviour after what happened to you to try to protect yourself? | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
Absolutely, for starters I tend to agree, I think the comments that the | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
mayor made were taken out of context. Of course it is ridiculous | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
in a large city, and Europe is very, very crowded, to stay at arms length | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
to anyone at any given time in the central city areas, it seems a | :30:17. | :30:22. | |
little impractical. But there are a lot of things that you can do as an | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
individual, as a community, as a group of friends to protect | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
yourself. While Peppers break isn't exactly legal in Germany, to be | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
honest, keep it in your pocket -- pepper spray. | :30:35. | :30:36. | |
honest, keep it in your pocket -- online, keep it in your pocket, it | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
is a good thing to have. Get one of those whistles, the police | :30:41. | :30:48. | |
recommended I get what is called a Fox 40, the loudest you can get. | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
Police are trained to listen to those. Anything that has a loud | :30:54. | :30:57. | |
noise will deter people that attack you. The police said one of the | :30:58. | :31:00. | |
biggest issues with victims was that they freeze, dear in the headlights, | :31:01. | :31:06. | |
they get attacked, they don't know what to do and they don't react. As | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
long as women are aware that there is potential danger and they train | :31:11. | :31:16. | |
themselves to at least scream and scratch... If you are out with a | :31:17. | :31:19. | |
group of friends, make sure everybody gets home OK. If you are | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
in a group and you see something bad happening, make sure you react. | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
There are lots of cops in the city, a lot of police presence, so make | :31:28. | :31:32. | |
sure you approach them. It is better to cry wolf than let something | :31:33. | :31:39. | |
happen and not react at all. Mirle and Julia, thank you both for | :31:40. | :31:40. | |
joining us. Lots of you getting in touch on | :31:41. | :31:54. | |
lonelines. We'll have people in the studio talking about this, some you | :31:55. | :31:58. | |
might not expect to feel lonely. Alex says working in various studios | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
over the past ten plus years often on my own and often feeling lonely | :32:03. | :32:06. | |
I've had to figure out ways of coping with this challenging issue. | :32:07. | :32:09. | |
My personal solutions have been keeping the radio on, particularly | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
talk shows, regular exercise, set routines, speaking to family and | :32:14. | :32:16. | |
friends on the phone but the best solution is getting a sociable | :32:17. | :32:19. | |
part-time job working with people to balance the quiet time in the | :32:20. | :32:25. | |
studio. E-mail from Ian, sometimes lonelines can be terribly | :32:26. | :32:27. | |
debilitating. We can slip into it so easily and it can also be | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
self-inflicted. When I went through a time of lonelines, I had so many | :32:32. | :32:37. | |
pity-parties, as my friend once put it or "poor me" time. Text from | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
Isabel, lonelines is terrible, I lost my job after 26 years and got | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
MS, I was made redundant, I miss the company and colleagues. | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
Loads of you getting in touch on this, and we are reading your | :32:53. | :32:56. | |
comments, keep getting in touch and be part of that discussion with us | :32:57. | :32:57. | |
this morning. More on that later. As George Osborne warns | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
about the risks to the economy - there are more poor results | :33:01. | :33:02. | |
from the High Street. They come from Marks and Spencer - | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
and at the same time it's been announced that the troubled | :33:06. | :33:09. | |
retailer's boss is to retire. Marc Bolland's decision | :33:10. | :33:11. | |
to leave comes after a tough M and S, along with retailer Next, | :33:12. | :33:14. | |
which also had a poor performance, are blaming the unusually | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
mild winter weather. Ben Thompson's here: With me | :33:19. | :33:20. | |
is our correspondent Ben Thompson. How hard has it been? The frenzy | :33:21. | :33:33. | |
after the pre-Christmas trading, the reality sets in for the retailers | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
and we find out how they fared. Today it's the turn of M Their | :33:38. | :33:44. | |
sales were down. Another poor performance, when it comes to its | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
clothing business especially, that we have been watching closely. Food | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
tends to do well at M but it's always the clothing that tends to | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
struggle, so news this morning that Marc Bolland, the Chief Executive, | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
is to stand down. M keen to point out that the two aren't related. | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
They suggest it's been a disappointing Christmas but Marc | :34:05. | :34:07. | |
Bolland decided to leave in the summer, to be replaced by Steve | :34:08. | :34:13. | |
Rowe, the boss of General Merchandise, homewear and clothes, | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
he's been at M for 25 years so has a good idea of what is going on, but | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
people are saying perhaps they need an outsider with fresh ideas to turn | :34:23. | :34:30. | |
around the fortunes for M We often look at, as an indicator for | :34:31. | :34:34. | |
the high street. Clothes aren't doing quite so well but food is. | :34:35. | :34:41. | |
It's not just M not doing well, different companies are saying it's | :34:42. | :34:44. | |
down to the mild weather, it's been unusual? Always the same excuse, the | :34:45. | :34:49. | |
weather wasn't what the retailers expected but they have a point to a | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
certain extent. Of course for fashion it involves getting the | :34:53. | :34:56. | |
right stuff in the right stores at the right time. We heard from Next | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
who said they had a tough time, high street sales were down 0.5%, even | :35:01. | :35:05. | |
though online sales were up 2%. They said it was difficult because of the | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
unseasonably warm weather and you look at it from their point of view, | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
they are not selling big winter coats or savrs and hats and boots -- | :35:15. | :35:23. | |
scarfs. In that respect, it's been a very difficult time for them. | :35:24. | :35:25. | |
Nonetheless, there are always some winners on the high street. We heard | :35:26. | :35:30. | |
from John Lewis, even though sales were down slightly, it said over the | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
three peaks of Christmas, before Christmas, Black Friday, Christmas | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
and New Year, their sales were up % so there are some winners but it's | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
always the likes of M and Next, the biggest, that we watch closely | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
and they say disappointing largely because of the weather. | :35:50. | :35:53. | |
Looking ahead, the broader economic picture, the Chancellor George | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
Osborne has been speaking this morning with a warning about what's | :35:57. | :35:59. | |
potentially to come over the course of the next year, he was upbeat when | :36:00. | :36:02. | |
he gave the Autumn Statement. What's happened? It's funny because we read | :36:03. | :36:09. | |
a lot into what the Governor of the Bank of England tells us and the | :36:10. | :36:13. | |
Chancellor and today he's talked about not taking our foot off the | :36:14. | :36:16. | |
pedal and we are led to believe the economy is starting to mend itself, | :36:17. | :36:20. | |
things are looking a little better and that there's probably a danger | :36:21. | :36:23. | |
that we feel blase about things being OK and we are not too worried | :36:24. | :36:27. | |
about what happens next. His point is that there are a lot of head | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
winds, a lot of Daningers to the world economy, oil prices have | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
fallen significantly because there's too much supply, stock markets in | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
China fell 7% overnight triggered an automatic shutdown of the Chinese | :36:42. | :36:44. | |
stock market, so there are worries about slowing global demand. America | :36:45. | :36:50. | |
seems to be doing OK, but China is slowing down, what effect will that | :36:51. | :36:53. | |
have on the rest of the world here in the UK? We expect economic growth | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
to come in at between 2 and 2.5% this year, it's not bad but at the | :36:59. | :37:01. | |
same time it's not great, so the warning from the Chancellor is | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
things are OK, getting better but we have to make sure we keep our foot | :37:05. | :37:10. | |
on the pedal, so for you and me, that means keeping working a bit | :37:11. | :37:13. | |
harder, spend a little bit more, try and save a bit more if you have got | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
it to prepare for that rain aye day, we shouldn't be too complacent about | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
the economy being on the mend and therefore we all think that it's | :37:22. | :37:24. | |
great, the warning is it's not as great as we might think. | :37:25. | :37:25. | |
Thanks, Ben. Coming up, the Labour | :37:26. | :37:27. | |
leader Jeremy Corbyn has finalised his front bench reshuffle | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
but with a spate of resignations and online spats between different | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
sides; we'll ask our political guru Norman Smith how the party | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
can move forward. Now, the daily journey to work does | :37:38. | :37:50. | |
not always go to plan. In a survey for the BBC, most said they cannot | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
rely on getting to work on time. What is being done to improve how we | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
get around. Graham Satchell's been looking at what the future of | :38:01. | :38:02. | |
commuting might hold. I'm about to immerse myself in a | :38:03. | :38:19. | |
virtual world. Actually, it's Milton Keynes complete with driverless | :38:20. | :38:24. | |
pods. You have got complete freedom to walk around the virtual world to | :38:25. | :38:27. | |
experience it from different perspectives. This might look | :38:28. | :38:35. | |
gimmicky, but the boffins are using virtual technology to improve thorny | :38:36. | :38:47. | |
problems like traffic jams. Press the traffic light and you could | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
change the sequence by 2%, here we go. Changing traffic | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
change the sequence by 2%, here we from your desk is clever, but for | :38:55. | :39:02. | |
some it misses the point. Jason Downes' commute to | :39:03. | :39:03. | |
less than a minute. Thanks ever so much for joining nice and early as | :39:04. | :39:13. | |
less than a minute. Thanks ever so we kick off 2016. From his converted | :39:14. | :39:18. | |
out building, he can contact everybody. It's training when you | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
are commuting so I use it the days I work from home to plan. The speed | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
and reliability of modern technology means working from home is now a | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
real option but it's not for everyone. In fact, less than 15% of | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
people work from home. Do you think the future of commuting | :39:36. | :39:41. | |
is no commuting? No. I think it would be reduced commuting. We still | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
need face-to-face meetings, we still need to interact people, but I think | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
it will reduce. Thank you, bye... | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
This precise motion simulator at Southampton university can recreate | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
any journey, cars, trains, planes boats. All right? Yes. If we are | :40:01. | :40:08. | |
going to carry on commuting, Professor Kchu is trying to make the | :40:09. | :40:22. | |
journey better -- Professor Qiu. We can develop the mathematical or | :40:23. | :40:25. | |
numerical models can develop the mathematical or | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
in the seat so that we can reduce the vibration transmitted through | :40:32. | :40:40. | |
transport systems catapult, Paul predicts the future of commuting | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
like this, staggered working times, fewer cars, monthly contracts with a | :40:45. | :40:47. | |
transport provider. You will use your | :40:48. | :40:50. | |
transport provider. some form to say where you want to | :40:51. | :40:53. | |
go from and to. Your service provider will give you options, a | :40:54. | :40:58. | |
driverless pod might pick you up and you will not pay or, all the payment | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
systems will be dealt with as part of a monthly contract. But we are | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
still talking about cars, trains, planes, but the way we use them will | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
be very different and the way we pay for them is going to be very | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
different. A hassle free journey to work? | :41:15. | :41:16. | |
That's the dream. We are going to be talking about | :41:17. | :41:38. | |
lonelines later in the programme. Often I would think, what do I have | :41:39. | :41:42. | |
to be lonely about? I live in London, I work with fantastic | :41:43. | :41:45. | |
people, there are just so many people here. It's difficult to admit | :41:46. | :41:51. | |
you're lonely to other people but I think one of the other things you | :41:52. | :41:55. | |
don't necessarily consider is it's really hard to admit it to yourself | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
and it does take a while to, I guess, kind of click and you think, | :42:00. | :42:05. | |
OK, I think I'm lonely. That is Kylie who will be with us in | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
the studio a little later to talk about lonelines. Loads getting in | :42:10. | :42:14. | |
touch on this. Theresa says, as soon as lonelines becomes a health issue, | :42:15. | :42:18. | |
you will get good hearted folk trying to force folk into not being | :42:19. | :42:24. | |
lonely. Elaine is 52, living with epilepsy, nobody will employ her, | :42:25. | :42:27. | |
friends have abandoned her, she lives in a town full of strangers | :42:28. | :42:31. | |
and she is drowning in depression and she is desperate to start a new | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
life. Isolation is part of living with epilepsy but I just can't deal | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
with it. Do keep on getting in touch. We are reading your comments | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
and we'll bring in as many into the conversation we'll have a little | :42:45. | :42:46. | |
later. Carol is here with the weather | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
update and I'm loving how we've coordinated our jutt fits today! | :42:52. | :42:58. | |
Thank goodness we didn't coordinate our shoes otherwise we'd have looked | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
like a couple of book ends. We have been talking about how cold it's | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
been in Eastern Europe in particular and also the Netherlands. Look at | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
these pictures, people ice skating down the streets. Do you fancy a wee | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
bash at that? I actually would, it looks quite cool. I like that | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
better. Like the penguins you get in this country. Yes. The Netherlands | :43:23. | :43:31. | |
have had snow and ice and these pictures are from the north, one of | :43:32. | :43:37. | |
the places is called Freezeland. Put song of your shows and it stops you | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
sliding. Doesn't look great but it works. Not that kind of cold is | :43:43. | :43:49. | |
going to come our way, but early next week, it's going to turn colder | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
for us. The cold air in the east of Europe is coming from a different | :43:54. | :43:56. | |
source. Ours will come from the Arctic, so from the north. | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
It will gradually come down through the course of next week. It will be | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
coldest in the northern half of the country where temperatures will be | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
three or four. It's further south, more likely to be closer to average, | :44:11. | :44:17. | |
which will come as a shock to the system. Do you like the winter? I | :44:18. | :44:23. | |
like all of them. The best of every season each time I think this is my | :44:24. | :44:27. | |
favourite. A very good way to be, although I'm not so keen on the rain | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
and that's what we have on the forecast today. | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
We have a beautiful picture to show you taken earlier on today from one | :44:35. | :44:38. | |
of the weather batchers of Wales where it was wet. We have a band of | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
rain that has been pushing steadily north-east wards and behind it we | :44:43. | :44:45. | |
have seen a lot of showers, courtesy of this low pressure and weather | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
front. Here it is here, continuing to edge north-east wards, becoming | :44:50. | :44:52. | |
ensconced across Scotland through the day. Also tightly packed | :44:53. | :44:59. | |
isobars, it will be a windy day, especially across the south-western | :45:00. | :45:02. | |
approaches, parts of the south-east too and across the north-east where | :45:03. | :45:08. | |
gusts here are at gales or severe gales. | :45:09. | :45:14. | |
A lot of surface water and spray on the roads. Be aware of that. We have | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
also got snow across the Grampians and Highlands. Some of the heavier | :45:20. | :45:25. | |
bursts will see that to lower levels so that is likely to affect the | :45:26. | :45:28. | |
higher routes in Scotland. By the end of the day, we could have two to | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
five centimetres. You can see the amber triangle, with the Met Office | :45:35. | :45:41. | |
having a weather warning for Aberdeen, Angus and Stirling. The | :45:42. | :45:44. | |
rain out of Northern Ireland replaced by sunshine and showers, | :45:45. | :45:48. | |
then slowly moving away from the north-east of England, replaced by | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
sunshine and showers. Further south, a lot of dry weather. A lot of | :45:54. | :45:59. | |
sunshine and fewer showers. A noticeable breeze and wind depending | :46:00. | :46:02. | |
on which half of the country you are in. Temperatures six or seven are | :46:03. | :46:05. | |
the maximums in the south-west. There is a risk of ice on untreated | :46:06. | :46:18. | |
surfaces. The next weather front will bring the rain, but also sleep | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
and snow on the hills of Northern Ireland, northern England, and | :46:23. | :46:25. | |
southern and central Scotland. A cold start with rain, seed and slow | :46:26. | :46:32. | |
across northern Ireland as well. There will be no heat wave in | :46:33. | :46:37. | |
prospect! Temperature wise it will be quite chilly, particularly in the | :46:38. | :46:42. | |
north. Highs in Glasgow of two, Aberdeen four. A bit milder in | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
Belfast, but still wrapping up in that. A high of ten as we sweep down | :46:48. | :46:53. | |
towards London. As we go through the weekend, the forecast remains | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
unsettled, low-pressure rattling across as with various weather | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
fronts, and we can see from the squeeze on the isobars that it will | :47:02. | :47:06. | |
be quite windy at times. In summary, for the weekend, further rain at | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
times, the risk of flooding and it will turn a bit colder. | :47:11. | :47:14. | |
Hello, it's Thursday, it's 10am, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria. | :47:15. | :47:17. | |
Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us. | :47:18. | :47:19. | |
The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn will finalise his front bench today | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
after shadow ministers announced their resignations. | :47:25. | :47:27. | |
But the dispute between the party's factions boils over online. | :47:28. | :47:36. | |
The house-buying scam that can con would-be home owners out of hundreds | :47:37. | :47:39. | |
This programme is told it's happening to people | :47:40. | :47:42. | |
Also ahead - why loneliness is being described as a new epidemic | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
It is difficult to admit you are lonely to other people, but one of | :47:47. | :47:59. | |
the keeping she don't consider is that it is really hard to admit it | :48:00. | :48:01. | |
to yourself. The Chancellor, George Osborne, | :48:02. | :48:05. | |
is warning that the economy is facing a "dangerous cocktail" | :48:06. | :48:15. | |
of new threats this year, In contrast to the upbeat tone | :48:16. | :48:17. | |
of his Autumn Statement six weeks ago, Mr Osborne will tell business | :48:18. | :48:21. | |
leaders that Britain risks going into decline if it | :48:22. | :48:24. | |
eases up on austerity. The chief executive of Marks | :48:25. | :48:29. | |
and Spencer, Marc Bolland, has insisted he's not stepping down | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
early due to disappointing sales. He announced his departure this | :48:33. | :48:34. | |
morning as the company reported that sales of general merchandise, | :48:35. | :48:38. | |
including clothes, fell by nearly 6% in the three months | :48:39. | :48:40. | |
to the end of December. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has | :48:41. | :48:42. | |
made six new appointments to the front bench, including | :48:43. | :48:45. | |
Kate Hollern at Defence, Andy McDonald at Transport | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
and Fabian Hamilton in Foreign Mr Corbyn lost three of his team | :48:51. | :48:53. | |
yesterday when they resigned in protest at the handling | :48:54. | :48:59. | |
of the reshuffle. European stock markets have fallen | :49:00. | :49:10. | |
sharply on opening after China suspended trading for the second | :49:11. | :49:14. | |
time this week. An automatic shutdown took place after just half | :49:15. | :49:17. | |
an hour of trading, raising fears over the country's economic help. | :49:18. | :49:20. | |
Today marks one year since the attacks by Islamist gunmen | :49:21. | :49:22. | |
on the satirical French magazine, Charlie Hebdo. | :49:23. | :49:29. | |
12 people were killed, including a policeman outside. | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
Five more people were killed in co-ordinated attacks afterwards. | :49:34. | :49:35. | |
The US Presidential hopeful Donald Trump has warned | :49:36. | :49:38. | |
he will withdraw ?700 million of investment | :49:39. | :49:41. | |
in his golf courses in Scotland if he is banned | :49:42. | :49:44. | |
MPs are due to debate whether the Republican politician | :49:45. | :49:47. | |
and businessman should be refused entry. | :49:48. | :49:49. | |
Last month Mr Trump called for a ban on Muslims coming to America. | :49:50. | :49:56. | |
The biggest-ever UK lottery jackpot went unclaimed again last night. | :49:57. | :49:58. | |
Operator Camelot said it sold about 200 tickets a second | :49:59. | :50:01. | |
in the hour before sales closed, leading the website to crash. | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
The prize will now grow over again until Saturday, where it must be | :50:07. | :50:12. | |
shared if there are no outright winners. | :50:13. | :50:14. | |
Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Catherine Downes. | :50:15. | :50:16. | |
Next month's Fifa presidential election is the last chance | :50:17. | :50:19. | |
to save the organisation, according to one of the candidates | :50:20. | :50:21. | |
Prince Ali of Jordan says he is "tough enough" to lead | :50:22. | :50:27. | |
football's world governing body, telling our Sports Editor Dan Roan | :50:28. | :50:29. | |
that he can be trusted to bring about "real change". | :50:30. | :50:37. | |
I come from a background in my own country working in crisis | :50:38. | :50:44. | |
management, something that we need in an organisation like the phone | :50:45. | :50:48. | |
right now. I can guarantee that I am the right person for this job. And I | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
do, my track record is that I keep with my word and what I say. | :50:54. | :50:59. | |
Hopefully when I win this judge me by my actions, and that is why I | :51:00. | :51:02. | |
keep saying the president has to take responsibility for himself and | :51:03. | :51:03. | |
for the entire organisation. There'll be a further hearing | :51:04. | :51:05. | |
to resolve doctor Eva Carneiro's A private hearing yesterday failed | :51:06. | :51:07. | |
to resolve her complaint of constructive dismissal, | :51:08. | :51:11. | |
brought after the then-manager Jose Mourninho publicly | :51:12. | :51:13. | |
criticised her when she went onto the pitch to treat a player, | :51:14. | :51:20. | |
and she was then dropped Carneiro is pursuing | :51:21. | :51:23. | |
a separate personal legal Manager Roberto Martinez says a club | :51:24. | :51:26. | |
of Everton's scale should be reaching cup finals | :51:27. | :51:30. | |
on a regular basis - and they gave themselves a great | :51:31. | :51:32. | |
chance in the League Cup, with a 2-1 victory over | :51:33. | :51:34. | |
Manchester City in the first leg Romelu Lukaku scored the winner, | :51:35. | :51:37. | |
but he was injured in the process and may not make Saturday's | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
FA Cup match, against Some more sad news from the world | :51:42. | :51:43. | |
of cricket this morning - the death of a second young player | :51:44. | :51:50. | |
in the space of a few days. Former Warwickshire bowler Tom Allin | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
has died at the age of 28. His former club Warwickshire said | :51:55. | :51:57. | |
they were deeply saddened and described him as an incredibly | :51:58. | :52:00. | |
popular player during the six years The 22-year-old Sussex bowler | :52:01. | :52:02. | |
Matt Hobden died last weekend. Tennis, and British number three | :52:03. | :52:12. | |
Kyle Edmund has reached his first ATP quarter-final after beating | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
Spain's Daniel Munoz in three sets But women's number three Naomi Brody | :52:16. | :52:17. | |
is out of the Auckland Classic. She lost in the quarter-finals | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
to the fifth seed Sloane Stevens, Broady had knocked out the former | :52:22. | :52:24. | |
world number one Ana Ivanovic I will be back at 10:30am with | :52:25. | :52:38. | |
Paralympic and Will Bailey who will be here to tell us why he is excited | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
about 2016, which is of course a Paralympic year. | :52:44. | :52:45. | |
Hello, thank you for joining us this morning. | :52:46. | :52:47. | |
Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us - | :52:48. | :52:49. | |
we're on BBC Two and the BBC News Channel until 11am this morning. | :52:50. | :52:53. | |
We are talking about loneliness, and concerns it is becoming a much | :52:54. | :52:58. | |
bigger issue than previously thought. There has been a huge | :52:59. | :53:01. | |
reaction from you to this this morning. A tweet saying, I have | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
experienced loneliness for many years, total isolation dustup as a | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
care lever, had no family, their friends, didn't anyone. | :53:12. | :53:16. | |
Another tweet, how do you find others who feel the same? People are | :53:17. | :53:20. | |
so scared to speak up and connect, it is difficult to get contact in | :53:21. | :53:23. | |
modern society. Keep on sending us your thoughts on | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
this and everything else we are talking about today. Texts will be | :53:28. | :53:30. | |
charged at the standard network rate. | :53:31. | :53:32. | |
And of course you can watch the programme online wherever | :53:33. | :53:34. | |
you are via the BBC News app or our website, bbc.co.uk/victoria. | :53:35. | :53:37. | |
And you can also subscribe to all our features on the news app, | :53:38. | :53:40. | |
by going to 'add topics' and searching 'Victoria Derbyshire'. | :53:41. | :53:48. | |
The Chancellor is warning that the UK economy is facing | :53:49. | :53:50. | |
a "dangerous cocktail" of new threats including | :53:51. | :53:52. | |
There's also speculation that he may talk about a future rise | :53:53. | :53:55. | |
Mr Osborne will tell business leaders in Cardiff that 2016 | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
is shaping up to be one of the toughest years | :54:00. | :54:01. | |
It sounds quite dramatic, tell us more about what he will say? | :54:02. | :54:17. | |
It is a funny old world, normally chancellors tend to talk about how | :54:18. | :54:20. | |
the economy is doing well, everything is on the up. A reverse | :54:21. | :54:25. | |
from George Osborne today, he is sounding fairly bleak and ominous, | :54:26. | :54:28. | |
warning about the challenges that are now facing the British economy. | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
The reason for that is he thinks we are all getting complacent about the | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
economy, we think things are ticking along very nicely so maybe we can | :54:37. | :54:42. | |
ease off on posterity. He has given some extracts of a speech he will be | :54:43. | :54:45. | |
making later. Let me give you some of the language, it is almost like a | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
rhetorical shock therapy to the British electorate. He says, anyone | :54:50. | :54:52. | |
who thinks it is Mission accomplished is making a grave | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
mistake, 2016 is the year we get down to work, all will be the year | :54:58. | :55:02. | |
we look back at as the beginning of the decline. | :55:03. | :55:04. | |
The beginning of the decline, for heaven 's sake! We got a taste of | :55:05. | :55:08. | |
his mood this morning on the today programme. This is what he said. | :55:09. | :55:11. | |
I'd say, at the start of this year, our economy faces a dangerous | :55:12. | :55:14. | |
cocktail of threats from abroad, from falling stock markets in places | :55:15. | :55:17. | |
like China, to instability in the Middle East. | :55:18. | :55:19. | |
Our antidote is to go on putting our own house in order | :55:20. | :55:25. | |
here in Britain, so far from 'mission accomplished' | :55:26. | :55:34. | |
on the economy, 2016 is the year of 'mission critical'. | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
George Osborne is expecting us to go through ten years. Ricky, which we | :55:40. | :55:46. | |
have not done before. When Mrs Thatcher was in power, it was three | :55:47. | :55:52. | |
or four years. He is bracing for the fact that we have a lot of pain to | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
come and we needn't think we are at the end of the road, he is flagging | :55:57. | :56:01. | |
up the fact there are problems in China, oil prices are falling, | :56:02. | :56:03. | |
commodity prices are falling, there is instability in the Middle East. | :56:04. | :56:09. | |
In other words, there are some hard years still ahead. | :56:10. | :56:12. | |
Bring us up to date with what is going on with the Labour Party? That | :56:13. | :56:16. | |
reshuffle still isn't over, we thought it was, Jeremy Corbyn | :56:17. | :56:20. | |
thought it was, but then there were president of and there is a lot of | :56:21. | :56:22. | |
acrimony. Breaking news, I think, I think, the | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
label reshuffle has now limped across the finish line, I think it | :56:28. | :56:32. | |
is over! We had a number of new names announced this morning, new | :56:33. | :56:38. | |
appointment to have moved into some of the posts that have been vacated. | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
What is striking about these new faces, if you look at them, they | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
look young, fresh faced, not all of them, some of them, because many are | :56:47. | :56:51. | |
new MPs who only came into Parliament six months ago and now | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
they have already been shot up into the front which is an | :56:56. | :57:00. | |
extraordinarily rapid rise, which probably tells us how Mr Corbyn is | :57:01. | :57:04. | |
maybe struggling a little bit to find people who are his supporters | :57:05. | :57:09. | |
and get them into front bench job. The movements may have ended, the | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
recriminations have not. The rows and wrangling are continuing, an | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
extraordinary Twitter storm seems to have erupted amongst Labour poker, | :57:17. | :57:21. | |
prompted in large part by Diane Abbott, one of Mr Corbyn's key | :57:22. | :57:26. | |
allies. Last night she appeared on Newsnight and basically got stuck | :57:27. | :57:29. | |
into some of those shadow ministers who have decided to abandon ship and | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
resign. She said, I don't want to say anything nasty about anyone, but | :57:35. | :57:37. | |
then made this accusation about those who have resigned. Have a | :57:38. | :57:41. | |
listen. I'm not attacking people as people. | :57:42. | :57:47. | |
I would say this, though, of the people that have resigned and so on. | :57:48. | :57:52. | |
Kevin Jones, I consider a friend, I don't agree with him on everything | :57:53. | :57:57. | |
but here's a great guy, and I think he is a big loss. When you look at | :57:58. | :58:04. | |
some of the other people, Jonathan Reynolds, Mr Dugger, if you look at | :58:05. | :58:08. | |
some of these others, what do they have in common? They are all former | :58:09. | :58:14. | |
special advisers. What you are seeing is people who came up under a | :58:15. | :58:18. | |
certain system where you did politics at university, became a | :58:19. | :58:22. | |
special adviser, became an MP, became a minister, who are | :58:23. | :58:25. | |
rightfully upset because Jeremy has brought a lot of new energy and | :58:26. | :58:29. | |
people into politics. Well, some of those former Labour | :58:30. | :58:34. | |
ministers who Diane Abbott has just slagged off when not at all amused | :58:35. | :58:37. | |
at the suggestion that they were somehow professional politicians, | :58:38. | :58:43. | |
former special advisers who expected an important job, and they took to | :58:44. | :58:47. | |
Twitter to get back at Diane Abbott. Let me show you this, this is the | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
Twitter account of Jonathan Randolph, former shadow transport | :58:52. | :58:55. | |
minister who abandon ship. If I scrolled down here, let's see if I | :58:56. | :58:59. | |
can find this, he got straight on to Twitter and said, is that what she | :59:00. | :59:05. | |
said? Referring to Diane Abbott. At least Google us before slagging us | :59:06. | :59:12. | |
up. In a subsequent tweet, he said, for the record, Diane Abbott, I was | :59:13. | :59:16. | |
a trainee solicitor when elected, having gone to law school as a | :59:17. | :59:19. | |
mature student and single parent. And above that, Stephen Dowty, a | :59:20. | :59:29. | |
European minister who resigned live on television, got stuck in with a | :59:30. | :59:33. | |
tweet, and says, nonsense, Diane Abbott, I worked for seven years for | :59:34. | :59:43. | |
World Vision and Oxfam, 18 months at DFI D you think she would know that. | :59:44. | :59:49. | |
We learned this morning that some of the Corbyn MP 's are complaining | :59:50. | :59:53. | |
they had been blocked on Twitter are some of the mainstream Labour folks. | :59:54. | :00:00. | |
Tom Blenkinsop, who I think supported Liz Kendall in the | :00:01. | :00:03. | |
leadership contest, has blocked a load of Corbyn MP is from following | :00:04. | :00:08. | |
him on Twitter, including Richard Bergen, who was asked about it this | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
morning on the radio and this is what he had to say. I don't think | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
Labour voters are going to be losing sleep over rows between junior | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
ministers all basic and is, a resignation live on the BBC politics | :00:22. | :00:29. | |
show. People don't come to my constituency surgeries, or any | :00:30. | :00:31. | |
constituency surgeries, about that. They are talking about the lack of | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
council houses, the Government's daily on flooding, the effect of the | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
Government's cuts on people's day-to-day lives and public | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
services. So where are we after what has been | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
probably one of the longest lasting and acrimonious reshuffles I can | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
remember in recent years? It has shone a light into just how divided | :00:52. | :00:57. | |
the Labour Party in Parliament appears to be, with some people | :00:58. | :01:03. | |
signed up to the Corbyn Project, others in despair over the Corbyn | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
Project, and it is very hard to see how the two sides can hold together. | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
Excuse the alarm! I think I should go now! | :01:13. | :01:13. | |
Thank you, Norman! Let's cross live to Paris now | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
where the French President, Francois Hollande is due to speak; | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
he will be delivering his annual address to security forces | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
which is coinciding with the first anniversary of the | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
Charlie Hebdo attacks. Once again, we come together here in | :01:27. | :01:42. | |
this court and this is marked by history. 70 years ago, the battle to | :01:43. | :01:51. | |
liberate our capital started. Here, we met together a year ago to pay | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
homage to the policemen killed by terrorists. The terrorists committed | :01:57. | :02:13. | |
the cowardice and coward attacks against Charlie Hebdo and today, two | :02:14. | :02:23. | |
months after the acts of war in Paris that left 130 people killed. | :02:24. | :02:30. | |
Also a number of victims. Every time, it's the policemen who have | :02:31. | :02:39. | |
faced to neutralise the assassins, to protect our citizens and help the | :02:40. | :02:53. | |
security victims to help security. The ceremony is under the banner of | :02:54. | :02:59. | |
gratitude and memories. The first instance we address, the policemen | :03:00. | :03:00. | |
killed on the 8th and 7th January. READS OUT NAMES OF THOSE | :03:01. | :03:29. | |
KILLED IN HEDBO ATTACKS We will never forget these people. | :03:30. | :03:53. | |
They died so that we can live freely. But today, I would like to | :03:54. | :04:04. | |
express the gratitude of the nations to those who have taken the risk in | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
January to face up to the enemies who are determined to kill and | :04:10. | :04:26. | |
Police, Security Forces and intervention forces helped | :04:27. | :04:41. | |
neutralise the people who held hostages. I am thinking of the | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
policemen who put themselves in the face of danger at the Bataclan armed | :04:49. | :04:58. | |
with weapons before being joined by specialist forces who have managed | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
to liberate the 12 hostages and neutralise and kill the last two | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
terrorists who kept them hostages. neutralise and kill the last two | :05:09. | :05:16. | |
would like to mention the firefighters, civil protection who, | :05:17. | :05:25. | |
that night, saved lives and brought help to those who've been | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
traumatised and supported those who needed support. Beyond this act of | :05:31. | :05:38. | |
bravery and during this tragic circumstance, I would like to | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
mention the military officers who, every single day, every single | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
night, carry out their rounds in our streets to protect our public | :05:50. | :05:58. | |
buildings, religious buildings, schools, airports which is admirable | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
work, passionate, indispensable. It's like the work of the | :06:04. | :06:14. | |
specialists of the intelligence people who thwart possible attacks, | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
like the judiciary police who cautioned the suspects under the | :06:22. | :06:24. | |
supervision of the judge and, without forgetting the customs | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
officers who are fighting against trafficking. Ladies and gentlemen, I | :06:29. | :06:36. | |
would like to express my confidence and trust and that of the French, | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
you protect them, I wanted to express to you throughout the | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
cortege on the 11th June in Paris and throughout the cities of France, | :06:49. | :06:55. | |
you have been the recipient of marks of sympathy of the highest mark. | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
Ladies and gentlemen, to protect French citizens, you also protect | :07:01. | :07:07. | |
their way of living life, their liberty. It's this way of life that | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
the terrorists wanted to attack because it's joy, the sharing of our | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
culture, for them, that inspires hatred. For centuries. I have the | :07:20. | :07:32. | |
responsibility here to say that the mission was demanding. Terrorism's | :07:33. | :07:42. | |
not finished. It's not finished to pose a threat against us. Outside | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
France, we are responding with our army against ISIS and here again we | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
have achieved results and this terrorist group is declining. Inside | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
France, we are chasing the terrorists, we are dismantling cells | :08:03. | :08:10. | |
and we are closing financial loopholes and organisations that | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
help them to face up to this challenge. We should have the | :08:15. | :08:28. | |
necessary means and I am planning to review the military statutes and ask | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
the government to provide you with the necessary sources and means. | :08:34. | :08:47. | |
Every year, between 500 and 2000 jobs have been created, but the | :08:48. | :08:57. | |
gravity of the challenge calls us to even raise our commitments. I have | :08:58. | :09:04. | |
told the Parliament the start of a further 5,000 jobs between now and | :09:05. | :09:11. | |
2017 and in total, more than 9,000 would have been created in the | :09:12. | :09:20. | |
police sectors. Whereas those jobs have been closed down, but we have a | :09:21. | :09:30. | |
long way to go. We have not only demanded but we actually stressed | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
that our country needed more magistrate posts, penitentiary and | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
customs officers jobs to be created and more effort and unprecedented | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
efforts, to consolidate to work of the Interior Ministry. This plan | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
will allow you to consolidate and strengthen your force, you have more | :09:52. | :09:58. | |
vehicles to refurbish more buildings like police stations and also to | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
modernise your telecommunications means. I know also the effort made | :10:03. | :10:14. | |
by the municipal and communal authorities... | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
STUDIO: President Hollande in Paris on the one-year anniversary of the | :10:19. | :10:20. | |
Charlie Hebdo attacks. Some crucial GCSE and A-level exams | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
could be rescheduled over the next three years to avoid clashing | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
with the height of the Muslim month of Ramadan, when some | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
pupils may be fasting. Examination boards have held talks | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
with Muslim groups and aim to avoid holding exams in the most popular | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
subjects during the period. This year Ramadan is due | :10:37. | :10:38. | |
to start in early June. Brian Lightman is the General | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
Secretary of the Association Thank you for joining us. What is | :10:42. | :10:43. | |
being looked at? Morning. The Ramadan period falls | :10:44. | :10:57. | |
during the period of examinations and, actually, it's going to get, at | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
the moment, it's going to be in June this year but it's going to get | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
earlier over the next few years, so it's going to clash quite heavily | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
with the exam period. Obviously, we want to make sure that we do | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
everything to help those pupils to enable them to not be disrupted in | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
their examinations. So I think the awarding bodies and the joint | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
council have been liaising with faith groups and so on and have | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
looked at the programme. They can't actually move the examinations and | :11:31. | :11:33. | |
some are reporting that they'd actually been moved, they'll have to | :11:34. | :11:36. | |
be during that period because of their connection with university | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
entry and so on. But what they are trying to do is put the large entry | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
exams I think earlier in the period and so on. What we are doing as a | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
professional association representing head teachers is, we | :11:50. | :11:52. | |
are liaising with the leaders of the faith and community groups to | :11:53. | :11:55. | |
produce some guidance which is helpful to our members so that we | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
can ensure that we do the very best for the young people. It's not our | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
job to tell people how to manage the fasting and we wouldn't wish those | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
individual decisions, but we'd obviously want to do everything we | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
can to help with that process. So will it change anything | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
dramatically from what has gone before? No, I don't think it will, | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
not at all. The programme for this year's already been finalised and | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
the large entry exams tend to be at the end of the cycle anyway and | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
quite often they are in the mornings because it's better to have those | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
large exams in the mornings for all sorts of reasons. So we don't see | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
any problems with the timetable for this year, but it's just a question | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
of making sure everybody is aware that some of those examinations are | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
going to fall within the Ramadan period and we do have a large number | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
of Muslim pupils in the country and want to obviously make sure we meet | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
their needs, just as we do the other students. What if anyone is | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
concerned that shifting things around might have an impact in like | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
an unforeseen consequence maybe in terms of there being less of a | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
run-up to certain exams than they might have expected? No, as I said, | :13:12. | :13:19. | |
the exam programme for this year's already finalised and they're | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
prepared well in advance, so people know the period when the exams are | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
going to be, so I don't think there are going to be any surprises there. | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
Obviously, teachers just want to be concerned that all pupils have the | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
best possible opportunity that they can to do as well as they can in | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
their exams? Absolutely. We know how important the exams are and so do | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
the students and we want to make sure that everything is in place to | :13:48. | :13:53. | |
enable that whole process to run as smoothly as possible. The regulatory | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
and joint Council for Qualifications which oversees and plans the | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
timetables is very aware of the issues, I'm sure. | :14:01. | :14:02. | |
Brian Lightman, thank you very much. Still to come before 11, | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
why loneliness is being described as a new epidemic affecting | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
people of all ages. The Chancellor, George Osborne, | :14:11. | :14:26. | |
is warning that the British economy faces a "cocktail" of serious | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
threats from across the globe. In a speech later he will say | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
factors including tension in the Middle East and slowing | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
growth in China could all affect The chief executive of Marks | :14:35. | :14:37. | |
Spencer, Marc Bolland, insists that disappointing | :14:38. | :14:40. | |
results are not He announced his | :14:41. | :14:42. | |
departure this morning. The company reported much worse | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
sales than expected in the run-up The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
made six new appointments Newly-elected MP Kate | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
Hollern goes to Defence, Andy McDonald takes Transport, | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
and Fabian Hamilton goes to Foreign Mr Corbyn lost three of his team | :15:00. | :15:02. | |
yesterday when they resigned in protest at the handling | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
of the reshuffle. European stock markets have | :15:08. | :15:09. | |
fallen sharply on opening, after China suspended trading | :15:10. | :15:11. | |
for the second time this week. An automatic shutdown took place | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
after just half an hour of trading - raising fears about | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
the country's economic health. Ceremonies are being held in France | :15:18. | :15:29. | |
today to mark a year since the attack on the satirical magazine | :15:30. | :15:30. | |
Charlie Hebdo by Islamist gunmen. 12 people were killed, | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
including a policeman. In the following days, | :15:34. | :15:34. | |
five more people were killed The US Presidential hopeful | :15:35. | :15:36. | |
Donald Trump has warned he will withdraw ?700 million | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
of investment in his golf courses in Scotland if he is | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
banned from the UK. MPs are due to debate | :15:43. | :15:44. | |
whether the Republican politician and businessman should | :15:45. | :15:46. | |
be refused entry. The campaign edition in band says | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
the threat could be considered blackmail -- the campaign | :15:53. | :15:55. | |
petitioning for the ban. The National Lottery operator, | :15:56. | :15:58. | |
Camelot, says nobody won the record jackpot of ?50.4 million | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
in last night's draw. The prize will now roll | :16:02. | :16:03. | |
over again to Saturday, when it must be shared | :16:04. | :16:05. | |
if there are no outright winners. Let's catch up with all the sport | :16:06. | :16:07. | |
now and join Catherine Downes, and eight months before | :16:08. | :16:10. | |
the Paralympics begin in Rio she has and eight months before | :16:11. | :16:19. | |
years since the London games? It's a new year - | :16:20. | :16:20. | |
and more importantly, if the team for this year's games | :16:21. | :16:34. | |
in Rio can beat that tally. One man who will be trying to add | :16:35. | :16:42. | |
his gold to that tally is Will Bailey, a Paralympic table tennis | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
player. How do you feel going into a Paralympic year, 2016 is a big one? | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
I can't wait, it is what I have been thinking about since 2012. I won the | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
world is in between but am focused on doing well in Rio. The reason you | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
have come to talk to us today is because it marks the start of the | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
campaign to drum up support for the team. How important was it that the | :17:08. | :17:09. | |
country got behind you in London? team. How important was it that the | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
For me, personally, I am biased but I think we have the best support in | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
the world in this country behind the Paralympics team. | :17:19. | :17:19. | |
the world in this country behind the special, the public took as to the | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
heart, and we need that support for Rio. Do you feel there has | :17:24. | :17:30. | |
been a dip in interest around Paralympic and disability sport? I | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
know around London there was a real high, but David Weir said last year | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
at the World Championships that he was disappointed in attendance | :17:37. | :17:43. | |
figures where they were being held. Have you noticed a bit of a drop? I | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
think after London 2012 it dropped a little bit, it was absolutely | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
massive in London 2012, the sport was fantastic. To be honest I have | :17:54. | :17:56. | |
focused on training and doing as well as I can. I think the British | :17:57. | :18:02. | |
public will get behind us and really supporters in Rio, I'm confident | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
that. One of the other this big push is push is for is to raise funds for | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
Paralympics GB as well. We don't hear about other athletes, | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
able-bodied athletes, Olympic athletes, coming out to Ascot for | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
funding. Do you think you get enough support in that regard from the | :18:21. | :18:22. | |
authorities or do you think you could do with more? We do get good | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
support, we get lottery funding and it is fantastic. This is just a | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
little bit extra to supercharge our performance and to set us up to have | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
a great training camp before Rio and the games, and also beyond Rio for | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
2020, things like that. We can always do with more support, | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
especially the Paralympic team. Fingers crossed the British public | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
out behind you. You have already got the bronze, the Silver, is this your | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
year to get the gold? I hope so! I will do everything I can. All I can | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
promise is to work as hard as I can, hard about anyone else in the world. | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
I wanted so much. How is the preparation going? I feel like I'm | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
playing well, I'm training six hours a day, looking forward to the | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
challenge. We looking forward to it as well, thank you so much for | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
coming in to talk to us. And Olympic and Paralympic year, it | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
will be a big one. Cannot believe it is four years | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
since the last lot, it has gone so quickly. | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
What an amazing year that was, fingers crossed Rio will be just as | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
good if not better. At least 50 house-buyers every year | :19:33. | :19:38. | |
lose their cash for a deposit through dodgy transactions. They | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
think they are sending it to their solicitor but it is fraudulently | :19:45. | :19:47. | |
transferred elsewhere. They transfer tens of thousands of pounds, | :19:48. | :19:50. | |
sometimes hundreds of thousands of pounds, to what they think is a | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
lawyer's bank account, only to find they have been conned with a | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
fraudulent e-mail redirecting their money elsewhere. Once it is gone, | :19:59. | :20:00. | |
they cannot get it back. The Solicitors Regulation Authority | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
- the regulatory body for solicitors in England and Wales - | :20:06. | :20:08. | |
has told us that they get at least one case a week of this | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
nature reported to them. So just how much money is being lost | :20:12. | :20:13. | |
and how many people officially Well, the City of London police say | :20:14. | :20:16. | |
that between 1st January 2013 to the 31st October 2015, | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
there were only 91 crime reports of this nature made to Action Fraud | :20:21. | :20:23. | |
- that's the UK's national fraud The combined losses of those is | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
?10.2 million. And the average lost | :20:27. | :20:36. | |
for each report is ?112,310. Well, last summer we spoke | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
to a 59-year-old woman who said she lost her life savings | :20:40. | :20:41. | |
after being tricked Vivian Gabb was in the process | :20:42. | :20:43. | |
of purchasing a buy-to-let property to give her some future security, | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
as she doesn't have a pension, but her ?46,500 deposit | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
was transferred to a fake account. She was sent an email | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
giving her false bank details into which to transfer the money - | :20:57. | :20:58. | |
and the cash vanished. I'm going to be 60 | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
years old next year. And I thought with my life savings | :21:03. | :21:05. | |
I could get a buy-to-let property I just kept thinking, this is banks, | :21:06. | :21:14. | |
there's going to be some sort of net There's this awful feeling that | :21:15. | :21:22. | |
I don't have any rights. ..nothing anybody can | :21:23. | :21:31. | |
do, that I can do. Just trying to get on with my work | :21:32. | :21:38. | |
and hold it together. It's been really, | :21:39. | :21:59. | |
really tough. Let's talk now to Steve Proffitt, | :22:00. | :22:15. | |
deputy head of Action Fraud. In Birmingham we have Paul Philip, | :22:16. | :22:33. | |
the chief executive of the Solicitors | :22:34. | :22:35. | |
Regulation Authority. And in Margate, | :22:36. | :22:36. | |
solicitor Peter Rodd. Paul, how often are cases like this | :22:37. | :22:45. | |
happening? Actually, far too often we are seeing these types of things | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
on the rise, month after month. In December last year we reported ten | :22:50. | :22:58. | |
cases of such scams on our website, on our Twitter feed and Facebook | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
accounts, so it is unfortunately becoming quite common. Is it | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
relatively new and getting more common? Relatively new, most | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
definitely getting more common, and we are picking up on those. We post | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
them on our website so that the solicitors know what is happening | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
and how to guard against it. Let's bring in a solicitor, Peter Rodd. | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
How where are you of this e-mail? -- of this problem? We are aware of it | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
and conscious of the problem. The difficulty we face is as we create | :23:31. | :23:37. | |
defences for one particular type of scam, the perpetrators develop | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
another. What we need to do is to educate clients and ourselves as | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
consumers of the nature of the risk that exists and how people can | :23:48. | :23:50. | |
protect themselves. What do you do to protect your clients? We avoid | :23:51. | :23:57. | |
giving information of bank details to our clients by e-mail. We also | :23:58. | :24:05. | |
stress the clients that solicitors will very rarely change their bank | :24:06. | :24:11. | |
account. Inevitably solicitors will change their account from time to | :24:12. | :24:15. | |
time but it is a very rare occurrence, so any suggestion that | :24:16. | :24:18. | |
we have suddenly changed our account, particularly if it goes to | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
a client by e-mail, should be regarded with the greatest of | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
suspicion and the client should contact us directly. The problem, | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
however, is often that clients themselves don't have adequate | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
protection on their own computers or laptops, and if grumbles are able to | :24:36. | :24:41. | |
download malware, that will very often enabled the criminal to access | :24:42. | :24:45. | |
that client's e-mail and send bogus e-mails to them. Paul, Peter is | :24:46. | :24:52. | |
saying there that his company will rarely send out bank details by | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
e-mail to clients to protect them, and it echoes what Vivian has said | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
to us, who we were hearing from earlier, she cannot be with us today | :25:01. | :25:03. | |
but wanted us to read out a statement. She says, solicitors | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
should not be sending client completion statements by e-mail, | :25:09. | :25:11. | |
they should warn there are fraudsters around, payment details | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
should come by post and telephone, not by e-mail. Solicitors should | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
encourage clients to verify details by calling the solicitors before | :25:19. | :25:26. | |
making a payment. It sounds like sensible precautions, why aren't all | :25:27. | :25:28. | |
solicitors doing that? Many solicitors do do that type of thing | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
that you have just heard. However, this is one of the largest purchases | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
you will make in your life, buying a house. You are transferring large | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
amounts of money to and broke and cyber crime is everywhere, so we | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
will advise solicitors that it is best practice to make sure that | :25:47. | :25:49. | |
their staff are trained to understand the risk, that they | :25:50. | :25:52. | |
advise clients in the way you have just described. That they don't send | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
unencrypted e-mails or ask for personal data by e-mail, and if you | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
are a client and get an unsolicited e-mail or something that looks odd, | :26:02. | :26:04. | |
because if you get something that looks odd it probably is odd, you | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
pick up the phone and verify with a solicitor that the e-mail has come | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
from them, all you say you are not prepared to give that information by | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
e-mail and would rather do it by phone or in person. Steve, how easy | :26:16. | :26:26. | |
is it to spot what is going on if something is going wrong? It is | :26:27. | :26:29. | |
very, very difficult. A whole process, because it is focused | :26:30. | :26:31. | |
around a completion date and the pressure of completing around there, | :26:32. | :26:33. | |
basically the fraudsters have access to all the information because, as | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
we have heard, through malware or hacking into e-mail accounts, they | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
know precisely when the transaction is going to take place and how much | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
it is for. If you receive an e-mail saying, I'm really sorry that the | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
amount of money you need to transfer today, we have changed our bank | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
account, please change it. All the details are factually correct, you | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
are under pressure to get the house, so you don't take the due diligence | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
that you should do. Likewise, as we have heard, the fraudsters can | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
change their M O, so if you tighten up the Internet aspect they will | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
phone you, they will phone you directly. Our advice is always to | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
be, and it goes to any single transaction that you get that says | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
your bank account has changed, don't take it on face value. Always verify | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
with the people that you are going to send it to that it has in fact | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
been the case. Additionally, I would recommend that you talk to and | :27:30. | :27:32. | |
insist that you talk to the solicitor you have been dealing with | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
because you will recognise that voice, so that you are not talking | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
to the fraudsters. The issue for the people who have been losing money is | :27:43. | :27:46. | |
that they are losing their hard earned cash. Is there anyway to get | :27:47. | :27:53. | |
it back? We would also recommend, immediately you are aware of the | :27:54. | :27:56. | |
problem, the first thing you must do is contact your bank. You must | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
contact your bank because that gives them an opportunity to try and | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
recover those funds. The transaction. The longer you leave | :28:05. | :28:08. | |
it, the less chance there is that the money will be retrievable -- | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
recover those funds or stop the transaction. The solicitor said they | :28:14. | :28:16. | |
are not liable, the banks say they are not liable, and that is though | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
-- that is why the individuals that transferred the money, even though | :28:22. | :28:26. | |
they had no idea, are losing the money. Should there be an indemnity | :28:27. | :28:32. | |
insurance if this is a new issue? These are tragic cases, no doubt | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
about it. If it is a solicitor's fault, if there is systems have been | :28:36. | :28:42. | |
hacked, if they have failed to protect client information or money, | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
then we mandate that they have insurance for these purposes that | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
would cover, in most cases, the client. Failing that, they can come | :28:50. | :28:53. | |
to the Solicitors Regulation Authority and we can compensate them | :28:54. | :28:57. | |
for the loss. Thank you very much, all of you, for joining us. | :28:58. | :29:03. | |
New research suggests being lonely and isolated is twice as bad for | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
your help as obesity and that the problem is so widespread it is seen | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
as a major public health issue. But it is not just older people at risk. | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
According to the Campaign to End Loneliness, more than a million | :29:16. | :29:18. | |
people in the UK are affected and it is as big a problem for the young | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
and middle-aged as their grandparents. It is the subject of a | :29:23. | :29:24. | |
programme on BBC One tonight. Often I would think, what do I have | :29:25. | :29:42. | |
to be lonely about, I live in London, there are so many people | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
here. It is hard to admit you are the only to other people but one of | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
the other key things you don't really consider is that it is hard | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
to admit it to yourself, and it does take a while to click in your head, | :29:54. | :30:00. | |
OK, I think I'm lonely. With me now is the film-maker, Sue | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
Bourne, alongside Richard Smith, Kylie Taylor and Emily Jones, who | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
all feature in the night's programme. Thank you for coming in | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
and talking to us. Kylie, we just saw you there, people | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
might be surprised to see someone like you talking about loneliness? I | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
think the dangerous thing about loneliness is that it is | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
indiscriminate and affects people of all ages, gender, ethnicity, but I | :30:26. | :30:31. | |
agree, as I said, I feel... I have a busy job, her busy life, but still | :30:32. | :30:39. | |
feel lonely. Why? It is down to two things, I'm not from here, I'm from | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
New Zealand, I'm away from family And Childcare Trust, but also the | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
emotional isolation. I recently separated from my husband, my | :30:48. | :30:51. | |
partner of 11 years, and anyone who has gone through a break-up will | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
know that is very difficult, and at times you feel you are the only one | :30:55. | :30:58. | |
suffering, the only one going through what you are going through, | :30:59. | :30:59. | |
but of course that isn't true, Do you find it hard to talk to | :31:00. | :31:09. | |
people when you say you feel like people haven't gone through it don't | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
understand and people kind of say things that inadvertently make you | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
feel worse? Definitely. I would say the people that do understand and | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
who're just there to listen, it's definitely hard to admit to | :31:21. | :31:24. | |
yourself, it took me quite a long time to realise that how I was | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
feeling was lonelines. On the other hand, there are people who're like, | :31:29. | :31:32. | |
what have you got to be lonely about, be positive, life is great. | :31:33. | :31:45. | |
Richard, your wife died in 2011 after 40 years of marriage which | :31:46. | :31:49. | |
inevitably is going to be devastating to deal with. How have | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
you been left feeling? Well, yes, that isn't when the lonelines | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
started, strangely. It's bereavement and lonelines are connected, of | :32:00. | :32:01. | |
course they are, but I've come to the conclusion that they are two | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
different items and I was helped with the bereavement because she | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
organised a replacement lady friend, if you like, not that she knew | :32:09. | :32:15. | |
anything about it until afterwards. She was worried and you wanted | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
companionship? Yes, it worked very well, we are good friends but don't | :32:22. | :32:24. | |
live together. I found out what lonelines was. My late wife said I | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
wouldn't cope with it and she was quite right. It was a shock. | :32:30. | :32:34. | |
Suddenly sitting at home thinking, I'm not enjoying this and I've never | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
been depressed seriously, but I do know what the symptoms are because | :32:40. | :32:43. | |
of things I've done in my life and I could feel the symptoms rolling in | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
and a good kick up the back side, move on, you know, this is not on. | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
But here you are a year later, doesn't matter what you do, there | :32:53. | :32:56. | |
are times you sit at home and might be watching you on TV for instance | :32:57. | :33:00. | |
and all of a sudden you want to say something and there's nobody there | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
and it's sort of, your shoulders go down. I'm a very positive individual | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
but find this very difficult to cope with, I don't deny it. When are the | :33:10. | :33:17. | |
worst times? Going to bed. That sounds, you know, put what | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
contagions you like on that, but going to bed is the worst thing -- | :33:24. | :33:30. | |
connotation. I got a come-uppance at Christmas, the first time I'd woken | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
up alone not surrounded by somebody else and Christmas presents an | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
things of that nature and I really struggled with that. I will not make | :33:39. | :33:44. | |
that mistake again. If I find another partner that's fine, but if | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
I don't, I'll look at Christmas in a completely different light. You are | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
nodding, you know what I mean. Christmas is hard. It's difficult to | :33:53. | :33:55. | |
explain. A colleague wants to have lunch with me and I said, sorry I | :33:56. | :34:02. | |
can't do it until next week partly because of this and something else | :34:03. | :34:05. | |
and he said, you don't sound lonely to me. How would you describe it to | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
someone who is saying that and the sort of people who say to Kylie and | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
many others, you know, cheer up and you don't seem like you should be | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
lonely? How do you explain it? It's a black hole in your soul. You just | :34:18. | :34:26. | |
find it very difficult to grasp, it's like an eel, it's a feeling | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
deep inside. It's something, you know, a little catch phrase that I | :34:33. | :34:36. | |
came up with, I got loads of people to do things with, I've got nobody | :34:37. | :34:40. | |
to do nothing with and it's that nothing period that you want, that's | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
when you really miss people. Silly things, commenting on a television | :34:46. | :34:50. | |
programme or the fire's gone out or, oh look, lightning bolt, you know, | :34:51. | :34:54. | |
you've got nobody to share it with. We are naturally, as humans, so the | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
anthropologists say anyway, work in pairs, in couples. Sex isn't | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
particularly relevant to that, it doesn't have to be male or female | :35:04. | :35:07. | |
and without that, we don't survive. I've been reading for the last year | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
to try and understand better why that might be so. | :35:12. | :35:17. | |
People identify it, the books identify but they don't identify why | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
so I still struggle with that. Answering your question is | :35:21. | :35:22. | |
difficult. I don't know why, it's just in here. | :35:23. | :35:29. | |
Emily, Richard is saying about not having people to do nothing with. | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
You've got young kids haven't you and you're married but still feel | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
its. Before you talk to us, let us have a look at you from the | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
programme as well. And isolated. 7% say they always... Any big | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
supermarket you look down the aisles and there'll be lonely mums just | :35:49. | :35:51. | |
like myself pushing buggies. They're there. We are all there. We all do | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
it. I stopped doing a big weekly shop so | :35:56. | :36:05. | |
that I had an excuse to pop to the shops. Even talking to the cashier, | :36:06. | :36:14. | |
I won't go to the self-service things, just to get conversation | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
from the cashier. Would you like a bag? How old is the little' un... | :36:20. | :36:27. | |
Emily, it's heartbreaking to hear you say that you go to the | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
supermarket because you want that contact from someone just at the | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
checkout. Tell us how you feel? It's during the day, you know, husband's | :36:37. | :36:43. | |
gone to work, older children are at school, when babies are so young, | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
you should feel absolute elation that you have this bundle of joy, | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
but when you've been surrounded by so many people, even in the first | :36:52. | :36:56. | |
two weeks of the baby's life, it's all of a sudden everybody goes and | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
you're at home changing nappies, feeding, but no conversation. | :37:03. | :37:08. | |
There's that thing, you can't have a full blown conversation with baby, | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
you can talk to baby but baby doesn't answer back, you know, and | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
you miss conversation. Is it easy to pick up the phone and tell someone | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
you're feeling like that? No, not at all. No. It took me a while to | :37:23. | :37:32. | |
realise what was happening. I was depressed, I had postnatal | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
depression. Even admitting to that was hard. I knew the signs. Once I | :37:37. | :37:44. | |
admitted it, other stems came open and I was able to say, you know, | :37:45. | :37:48. | |
during the day I'm feeling so alone by myself. I shout out to the | :37:49. | :37:55. | |
friends that are there, we get out, we go out and do stuff, but it's | :37:56. | :38:00. | |
having the balls to get up and say, this is me, help. Sue, the old | :38:01. | :38:08. | |
perception of lonelines is that it is the elderly who suffer. You've | :38:09. | :38:12. | |
done this programme and you've clearly tapped into something which | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
is that there are so many people out there that you would not expect to | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
feel lonely. What have you learnt? I wanted to make the film because I | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
saw the headlines coming, it's the age of lonelines, a silent epidemic, | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
one in four live alone, it affects all ages, the stat I found | :38:31. | :38:37. | |
fascinating is that younger people are finding themselves lonely almost | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
to the same degree as their grandparents' generation so it's | :38:42. | :38:50. | |
kind of everywhere in the ether. Mental health issues are at the | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
forefront as well. I make films about people and I give them a | :38:55. | :39:00. | |
voice. I had a long list of all the people I wanted in the film from the | :39:01. | :39:03. | |
student, the 19-year-old student right through all the different ages | :39:04. | :39:10. | |
to the 100-year-old Olive. We spent months, talked to over 500 | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
people to narrow it down to to 14 people who were brave enough to go | :39:16. | :39:18. | |
in front of the camera and talk about their lonelines. | :39:19. | :39:21. | |
in front of the camera and talk wonderful about the film is the | :39:22. | :39:23. | |
response we are having because there's something in it for | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
everyone, you know. I listen to Emily and I remember being at home | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
with my daughter. I found it so lonely. I think lots of us have | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
worked and we've had that constant companionship and then we are on our | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
own with the baby and you feel so guilty admitting that you are lonely | :39:41. | :39:43. | |
because you are meant to have the bundle of joy. Divorcees, young | :39:44. | :39:49. | |
people who move from home and they're ambitious and go for work | :39:50. | :39:53. | |
and they're in the City. I remember coming from Scotland wandering about | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
Kent High Street on a Saturday afternoon with tears streaming down | :39:58. | :40:01. | |
my face thinking, what have I done? ! I've got no mates any more, I'm | :40:02. | :40:09. | |
like a bit of driftwood. I think if this is an epidemic that's | :40:10. | :40:12. | |
happening, we have to bring it out of the closet and they're brave | :40:13. | :40:15. | |
people to talk about it in public and the more people talk about it, | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
the more we can address it. I'm very excited about this because society | :40:22. | :40:25. | |
is changing. I make films about how society is changing and I think this | :40:26. | :40:28. | |
is a major change in the sense that I think we are disconnected and the | :40:29. | :40:34. | |
traditional forms of connection have gone, are going, and we need to make | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
new ones. Honestly, it's really wet to say this, but tiny acts | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
kindness can transform people's kindness can transform people's | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
lives. Emily put a wee poster up in the supermarket saying, anyone fancy | :40:47. | :40:47. | |
a buggy walk. the supermarket saying, anyone fancy | :40:48. | :40:54. | |
coming over the hill! You know, Kylie was lonely, it wasn't just | :40:55. | :40:57. | |
about the break-up of her marriage and we must stress that, it isn't. | :40:58. | :41:00. | |
Kylie sensed that lonelines and and we must stress that, it isn't. | :41:01. | :41:03. | |
because of that, she volunteered to go and help with tea parties for | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
lonely old people. You know, it's brilliant. Human connection isn't | :41:08. | :41:15. | |
it. They are all connections of some description. Richard is brave. Not | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
many men will go in front of other people saying I have material | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
things, family and friends, but I am lonely and it's the something to do | :41:25. | :41:27. | |
nothing with or someone to do lonely and it's the something to do | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
nothing with is the key phrase, sitting watching telly and chatting. | :41:31. | :41:37. | |
You don't have to be alone to be lonely. That is so true. Some | :41:38. | :41:43. | |
friends organised a dinner party Christmas Eve which was absolutely | :41:44. | :41:47. | |
fabulous, you know, but it didn't alter anything. I was lonely because | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
it was three couples and me and what that actually does is to, I'm sorry, | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
but that emphasises the fact you are on your own, you are lonely and you | :41:58. | :42:03. | |
can't change that, it's this interrelationship with somebody | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
that's close to you, your soul mate. Company is good, I have stacks of | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
company, I'm rarely alone but it's that one unit. That special person. | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
Yes. I really can't explain it any better than that, it's just having | :42:18. | :42:21. | |
that soul mate and if you've got a soul mate, you don't have the | :42:22. | :42:25. | |
problem. I want to read out comments from people watching you all because | :42:26. | :42:28. | |
what you are saying is chiming with so many people. Richard says I'm | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
lonely now and fully understand the things you Richard are saying, | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
relate completely. Simon tweeted to say it can be like cancer and can | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
slowly destroy you from within and nobody can see it. Someone else | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
tweeted to say one thing you learn from being lonely is nobody cares, | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
that is why people bury themselves into work. The age of lonelines is a | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
sad one, we should spend more time out there and less time in there. I | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
see where Kylie is coming from, I am in a good place but knew something | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
was missing. When you thought to yourself I am lonely, that is what | :43:06. | :43:08. | |
it is, did that help shift things for you? Well, it did and it didn't. | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
Took a long time to admit it because you think, what is going on here | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
because that is one of the biggest issues. You feel like you have to | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
right to feel like that. You felt you should be happy because you have | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
a baby. You think you should be feeling this and that but we don't | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
so you put pressure on yourselves. When I realised how I was feeling, I | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
thought OK, there was relief. I still feel lonely, Christmas and New | :43:39. | :43:44. | |
Year is a really hard time and even though I have face time with New | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
Zealand, you know, on New Year's Eve, it was just incredibly low. We | :43:50. | :43:54. | |
have to tend conversation here I'm afraid. Thank you all very much for | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
coming in. Sue, the programme is BBC One tonight the Age of Lonelines. | :43:59. | :44:01. | |
Thank you so much for your comments and | :44:02. | :44:02. | |
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