02/03/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

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Should tackling in school rugby be banned?

That's what dozens of doctors and health experts are calling for -

saying injuries from this "high-impact collision sport" can

have lifelong consequences for children.

Supporters say rugby builds character, and banning tackles

But critics argue two-thirds of injuries in youth rugby and most

concussions, are down to tackles - they want schools to move to touch

The Rugby Football Union is in the middle of a programme

aimed at introducing rugby to a million children in state

Really keen to hear from you this morning.

If you've got kids at school and they play rugby,

do get in touch and tell us your reaction.

Professor Eric Anderson is one of 70 doctors and health experts who've

written to the government calling for a ban on tackles.

And in our Belfast studio, David Ross, who was 18

when he broke his neck playing school rugby.

He's now paralysed from the neck down, and is hoping to play

wheelchair rugby at the Rio Olympics.

We are joined by Matt Perry, a former England international.

Why should contact rugby the band? Children are compelled against their

will to play contact rugby in school systems. Some children desire it and

there is a place for that. It is community level rugby. But children

and their parents are often compelled to play rugby as far as

the national curriculum. The Rugby Football Union desires to expand

this. Rugby is a great game but it should be a game of touch in a

school systems. What injury statistics concerning new? Some of

the latest research from Ulster followed 525 school-age boys. There

were 204 injuries that were so serious that the athletes could not

play for 28 or more days. Amongst that group there were 81 diagnosed

concussions. Concussions are difficult to diagnose. If you are

subjecting 81 out of every 525 children to concussion in the name

of health and well-being, we are doing something wrong. David, you

are injured playing rugby at school, left paralysed as a result. What

happened to you? I was just on the ground and the tackle happened

beside me. The two guys came down on top of me and my neck bent in a way

that it should not have. Playing a game changed your life completely.

How do you feel? No animosity towards the sport. It is a freak

accident. These accidents can happen doing anything. A lot of people are

broken their next doing a lot of different things. There is a small

margin for these types of injuries. I cannot blame rugby. We are seeing

pictures of you playing wheelchair rugby. What do you think about the

suggestion that contact rugby should be banned to avoid injuries to

children in school? It is something I do not agree with. That would just

change the sport. Rugby is a contact sport. It is a key element of the

sport. Taking it out of the sport changes it for me. People are

getting involved in rugby now it is a contact sport and they know what

they are getting into. I think changing the sport is something that

should not be done. If a simple change can be made, rugby can be

played without the tackling and that could avoid injuries like the one

that uses stained, a lot of people say that would be a good thing?

Contact is part of rugby. It does change the sport completely. You say

it is a small change but it is a massive change for the sport of

rugby. Taking contact out of its changes the game. Matt Perry, you

play rugby for your career. How do you see this debate? I agree with

the argument that you cannot force a child to do something against their

will. But the data and research we have now, for me it is down to

individual responsibility. There are a number of key parties involved. We

talk about coaching. The professional game is a lot safer

than we think. There has always been a risk to rugby and contact and to

the tackle area. Now with the evidence coming through, we need to

use the data in a pragmatic way to understand that if we lose the

tackling rugby, we have pretty much lost the game. For me it is about

regulating coaching to get outstanding coaches bringing talent

through and training them technically to play on the values of

what rugby is based on. That is respect, self-awareness,

understanding how to protect your own body and the body of your

opponent. It is not a collision sport, it is a contact sport. The

shrewd players and teams try to find the space. It is a bit nanny state,

knowing there is risk in all sports. Horseracing except taking the tackle

out of rugby, I think, will ruin it. These are two guys who know the

sport well and David badly injured. Neither of them think you are saying

the right thing. What they are saying is the sport of rugby. The

sport of rugby will survive and it will survive for children who want

to play it. But horse racing is not part of the national curriculum.

Touch rugby should be. The matter of educating children in how to tackle

appropriately, studies of physical education teachers show that only

14% feel they are adequately trained to provide rugby tackle provision.

There are no requirements for physical education teachers to have

a level four, three, two or even one coaching certification. They are not

required to have first aid training. So you have PE teachers who are

wholly unable to provide to children who do not want to play rugby. We

should not be compelling these children to do this. The Rugby

football union should be paying attention to teaching abruptly in

rugby leagues. -- appropriately. Physical education is not support.

It is supposed to be about education, physicality, health and

well-being, not subjecting 10% of our students to concussion and 40 to

50% to serious injury. I completely agree. And in many ways what you are

talking about is regulating coaching. When we hand our kids over

to schools we delegate responsibility. That duty of care

has to be upheld. If there are a coaches technically coaching our

kids to tackle Ronchi. That is not right. We need to go back to the

basics. Look at the core values of the sport and how we train the next

generation. The uptake of kids wanting to play rugby is massive

from the World Cup. Rugby is really there. We do not want to cross that

talent but we need to regulate coaching. Parents have a

responsibility as well in terms of on the sidelines with their kids not

shouting, smash him, but being more constructive about returning to the

core values of rugby. Unfortunately, parents do not have a choice. They

are compelled for their kids to do as required physical education. We

have letters from parents whose children have broken legs playing on

the field of PE, who not want to play, who the sport is compelling to

play. We need to change the system drastically. In the school system,

let's just played touch. It is a faster game. Children find it more

enjoyable. Then perhaps we could look to expand in touch rugby to

women. Because right now girls and women are not forced to play rugby

in school settings like boys. The issue of compelling kids to play? I

completely agree. If the child does not want to play rugby, you cannot

force anybody to do that. I completely agree with the argument.

But on the other side, for individuals and parents of children

who want to play the game, do not remove the contact. Train them well,

coach them well. We are all in it together. Agreed. Let's not have

children who are not being coached well, who do not want to be there

and expect them to not get injured. David, what do you think about

compelling kids? We had games once a week where the boys did play rugby.

That was the only option for the first few months of school. We never

played full contact rugby. You only played full contact rugby if you

went to the after-school clubs. It was your choice. I do agree that

forcing kids to play when they do not want to should not be done. It

should be a choice. But for children who want to play rugby, they should

be allowed to play contact rugby. If that is what they want to do, they

should be allowed to do it. Pulling in a complete system of only touch

rugby takes away from those who want to play the sport. We are not

arguing to take away contact rugby within community level. We are

arguing that within the school system and within the school system

alone where ministers have the control over what happens, not the

RFU. That rugby be played as touch. Let's bring in the thoughts of

viewers. Loads of people getting in touch. Mostly rugby lovers, I would

imagine. My son lost his adult top front tooth in school because of a

bad tackle. He still has problems. Somebody else, anonymous, rugby,

band skiing, worse Reading... None of those things are part of the

national curriculum. Those kids that are compelled to

play rugby will not go on to play rugby as adults because they do not

enjoy rugby. We are trying to protect kids who do not self select

into competitive contact rugby. Juliet says it should not be banned.

It is ridiculous to suggest it. As long as it is taught properly, they

should be no issues. Her son is nine and plays contact rugby for a local

club. All proper precautions are taken and he loves it. As do the

other 45 children registered. Mats, over your career did you see lots of

friends and fellow players injured? I certainly did and I had a number

of injuries myself. Concussion being one of them. If I was around now I

think I would be in a better place because of the safety protocols.

With evidence and with data, what we do not want to get to a position of

his where lawyers are making the money out of lawsuits and people

suing because there is a grey area. I completely agree that if a child

does not want to play rugby they should not be forced to. But

undermining the contact in the tackle area when it comes down to

responsibility is the key thing. 20 years ago there was more risk. There

has always been more risk. Now we can make informed decisions. That

goes to the parents and the child to agree to in themselves whether they

want to play rugby, and if they do not, they should take themselves

out. The ones who do, should crack on and enjoy one of the great

cultural games. A lot of people will say it is character building and if

you take the tackles out of it it changes the game? There is no

research that shows that tackling is the character building component of

rugby. If that was the case, you would also say that team sports

without tackling our less effective in building character and

cooperation amongst players. That is not the case. Where you really do

diverged from Eric is on this issue of whether taking tackling outdoors

change the sport to an extent that makes it a completely different

game? Why do you think tackling is such an important element?

It is the camaraderie of knowing how to tackle well. It is quite physical

and you can imagine your back and your body getting put in all

different kinds of positions. But when I started amateur rugby and got

into professional as my choice, it is more about the core values of

what rugby is, it is about respect, team and ship, camaraderie, and

self-awareness development. If you are making a tackle, you can look at

your team-mate and it else character, because it doesn't even

need to be a handshake, it is a look, and if we take the contact

out, where do we stop? Nothing he said is dependent upon the tackle,

the respect, the quality, the cooperation, the looks between

team-mates, none of that necessitates that children tackle

each other. And a last word from David, because you did suffer a

terrible injury, and your life changed as a result of playing

rugby, yet you still love it. What is it but you gain from playing

rugby then and now in a wheelchair Chris? Just a love of the sport. My

family played rugby, I was introduced to it through school, it

just built a love for the sport, I started playing sports Risley, I got

fitter and stronger, and I just got better quality-of-life, and I still

do because of the sport I play now. So the contact element for me was

always enjoyable, the looking to your team-mate, putting your body on

the line of your team-mates, it gave me an energy that I can't describe

that I have got anywhere else. Thank you all very much. David, Eric and

Matt. Thank you. The debate is a lively one, loads of comments coming

in from you, thank you for them, and do keep them coming. We will be

talking more about it after ten, and we will bring your comments in

before then and during that conversation as well.

Still to come: We'll talk to the mother of a young woman

with schizophrenia who jumped off a cliff in Bristol killing herself

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First - it's the main news this morning.

It's been a good night for both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton

on the biggest day in the race for the US presidential nominations.

Each secured seven out of eleven states on Super Tuesday,

although there were important wins for their rivals,

who vowed to fight on.

As we've been hearing, there's been a call to ban tackling

on the school rugby pitch due to the risk of serious

More than 70 doctors and academics have written to the government

to say there could be lifelong consequences from injuries

from the high-impact collision sport.

The RFU says it's undertaking a large-scale injury surveillance

There's been a warning that that 22-year-olds may now have to work

into their 80s unless they start saving

Lib Dem MP Steve Webb, formerly the pensions minister,

says that even if they do save at the minimum level,

they may not be able to retire until they're 77 years old.

The UN says Europe is on the cusp of a largely self-induced

humanitarian crisis, as a bottleneck of thousands

of migrants and refugees continues to build on the border of Greece,

trapped by Macedonia's decision to close its border.

The Government says Britain will be weaker, less safe and worse off

It's published a document setting out the claims.

Those wanting the UK to leave the European Union have dismissed

the report as a "dodgy dossier" that ignored the risks of staying in.

There were 23 near misses of drones and planes around airports in UK

last year. Pilots are calling for research

into what would happen if a drone In one incident a drone passed

within 25 metres of a Boeing 777 After nearly a year aboard

the International Space Station a Nasa astronaut and a Russian

cosmonaut have returned Their 340-day mission aboard

the International Space Station was twice the length of a normal

stay, which is will form part of a study looking at the effects

of what long-duration spaceflight Let's catch up with all the sport

now and join Chris Mitchell - with news that the Premier League

title race has taken another twist. Good morning. I'm so happy. Not me,

I meditate, but Claudio Ranieri is delighted. His side drew in what

many were calling a slip-up, but the boss said he was really pleased with

the way his side had played. Leicester are now clear at the top,

but Tottenham can overtake them later if they win.

The Olympic and world champions Sir Bradley Wiggins and Laura Trott

are in the British team at the World Track Cycling

They start today at London's Olympic velodrome.

Live coverage across BBC TV and we'll keep

There's a good page on the BBC Sport website too that -

if you need reminding - explains the difference

between a keirin or a straightforward scratch race.

How about no head gear for the boxers at the Olympics?

The change has been made and none of the male boxers in Rio

The theory goes that opponents don't hit so hard

The change has already been made in amateur boxing.

It's now been ratified by the International Olympic

Those are our top stories at the sports centre right now. Thank you.

The mum of a woman who jumped off a cliff in Bristol with her newborn

daughter has told this programme the government need to commit

to spending billions of pounds on maternity care for pregnant women

and new mothers who experience mental illness.

who had schizophrenia, walked out of St Michael's Hospital

in Bristol with her daughter Zaani in December 2014.

sectioned several times before she became pregnant.

At an inquest last year the coroner said that there was a "chain

of failures" leading up to her suicide.

of failures" leading up to her death.

I've been speaking to Charlotte Bevan's mum Rachel Fortune

in her first national TV interview and I started

by asking her what Charlotte was like.

She was very tall, beautiful young woman, creative, artistic. She was

perfectly happy at school, and growing up as a teenager, she

displayed the normal glitches of teenage life. So how old was she

when things started to change? It was around 2000, after my husband

died, that things started to change. Initially, Janet and Charlotte helps

with the funeral, and the first few months were fine, and then I began

to worry that she was out a lot, not really communicating with me very

well or with Janet, but it wasn't until 2010 when she was about 25

that I realised that there was a bigger problem, and that she might

have psychosis, might have a real mental health problem. What were the

signs that alerted you? Very strange behaviour. If we were out in

Bristol, she would say, let's go into the shops, and then we would go

into a shop, and then she would leave the shop and leave me in

there, lots of little things that told me things were not right. So

how did you end up in a situation where she was getting help? That

happened in 2010. She liked music, and she had been to the Sunrise

festival, and while she was there something happened, and to this day,

we don't know what happened, but she drank something, and she couldn't

really remember. She lost a whole week after the Sunrise festival, and

a friend of hers rang me to say that Charlotte was with her in Bristol,

and could I come and collect her, she wasn't well, she was

hallucinating. I went to pick her up, and she was very ill. She was

hallucinating, I tried to take a home, we got to the village where I

live, it is dark at night with no street lights, and she got very,

very frightened, and she completely flipped. So much so that I couldn't

cope with the situation, so I dialled 999. She ran away and the

police managed to find her about an hour later, and she was admitted to

a psychiatric ward in Taunton. And did she start to improve? Not

immediately, no. From 2010 to 2012, she was sectioned four times, so

that gives you some time of, she wasn't really well. So what was it

like when she fell pregnant? How did that affect her? Initially, how it

would affect any young mother. She was a bit sick for the first three

months, she was quite happy to communicate with me for the first

three months, and then... Was she excited about it? Yes, eventually. I

think they had a discussion about what they should do, and there was

some discussion about whether they should terminate the pregnancy,

because of her being on medication, because of her history. I wasn't

aware of that discussion at all until after her death.

And then one morning, she text me, I had seen her the day before, and she

said she didn't want to see me any more. She was about three and a half

months pregnant. She had been concerned about the medication

through pregnancy. She then stopped taking the medication, didn't she?

She did, and nobody really knows when or how, did she just suddenly

stop it or did she reduce it gradually, we don't know. Would she

have been able to carry on taking it? Were there issues? I don't

believe so, that there is very little research, because you can't

do research on pregnant mothers, so the pharmacist had told her later on

towards the end of her pregnancy that she could carry on taking the

Risperidone, but they have to say that there is an element of risk,

because there is no research done. It is difficult to know when there

is an adult with mental health issues as she had, and she is taking

decisions as an adult, but she has issues and people are caring around

her. Do you think anyone could or should have stepped in? With

hindsight, yes. I think all the professionals would probably say

that. But there is a question of deprivation of liberty is. She

wasn't ill enough to be sectioned. She was taking these decisions on

her own. And don't forget, nobody knew that she had come off her

medication. She gave birth to Zaani in December 20 14. What was that

like? For her, it was wonder. She had wanted this baby, she knew it

was a girl, she had named her, and it she had her baby at Saint

Michaels Hospital, and she was very well looked after, her labour went

relatively naturally. There were concerns shortly afterwards in terms

of her mental health? Psychiatrists spoke to her. What were the

concerns? Psychiatrists spoke to her over the weekend, the main concerns

were she wasn't looking after herself. She was unkempt, she hadn't

had a shower, and she wasn't eating, she wasn't sleeping. That is fairly

normal for any young mum for a day or two, maybe, but for Charlotte,

these were the warning signs. And just a few days later, you had a

call to say she had gone missing. Yes. When I received a phone call at

11:30pm on Tuesday, the 2nd of December, I thought, silly girl, she

has left the hospital and gone to friends. I thought that until the

following day, the Wednesday, when it began to get dark, 24 hours had

gone by, and diarrhoea light that something had happened -- 24 hours

had gone by, and I realised that something had happened. And it

emerged that she had killed herself and Zaani. It was horrific. Janet

and I were together at her house. The family years on officers were

with us. They had looked after us very well right from the beginning.

But it was all, as anyone can imagine, absolutely horrific.

Inevitably after that everybody looks back and tries to work out

where things might have been done differently, how things might have

been different. The coroner said there was a chain of failure is

leading up to the deaths. The coroner said her relapse after the

birth should have been diagnosed and managed but it was not. How did you

feel when you heard that? Very distressed. The inquest was an awful

ten days. The coroner made recommendations, three main

recommendations. And those recommendations have been

recognised, they have been acted upon. Governments have to realise

the enormity of mental health problems. But to Charlotte's

specific case, it is paramount, it is imperative, that all women with

mental health problems have access to a multidisciplinary specialist

perinatal. Before, during and after birth. If you have a specialist team

around the lady, the woman, then the staff looking after her and dealing

with her that have concerns, have somebody senior, have a specialist

to go to and to refer to. What would you say to other people who find

themselves in that situation? What did you learn about the best way to

cope? I think the most important thing that I learned was not to take

things personally. And to seek advice for myself, so that I could

then best help Charlotte. And how do you remember Charlotte and Zaani

now? I think of Charlotte now, we talk about her a lot, Janet and I. I

remember her as a little girl, happy little girl messing about in the

garden or macro playing with Janice. Zaani, that is difficult. I only

knew Zaani for four days and I only saw her twice. I held her both

times. I love them both clearly. And I hope, I am sure, that they are

both at peace and in a wonderful place. That is how Janet and I

remember them both. Rachel Forge and talking to me about

her daughter Charlotte and grand daughter Zaani. NCL medic has been

in touch to say absolutely heartbreaking, and incredible

account. We have had a couple of statements through.

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Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump have pulled further ahead in the race

to become the official Democrat and Republican candidates hoping

Eleven states voted on what is known as Super Tuesday, though for us

in the UK it really should be called Super Wednesday.

So what do the frontrunners, Clinton and Trump, stand for,

First up, you've got Donald Trump - the reality TV star and businessman

- who's been leading the race to become the Republican candidate

He's known for speaking his mind and has insulted the other

He's taken a particularly strong line on immigration,

claiming he wants a "total shutdown" of Muslims entering the US,

and wants to build a wall that spans the length of the US-Mexico border.

He's not exactly short on confidence either.

Trump recently said, "I could shoot people and I wouldn't

He currently leads the way in the Republican race,

Here's what he had to say last night.

We're going to make America great again, folks.

And, you know, I watched Hillary's speech, and she is talking about,

"wages have been poor", and "everything is poor"

and everything is doing badly, but we are going to make it.

I mean, if she hasn't straightened it out by now,

she's not going to straighten it out in the next four years.

It is going to become worse and worse. She wants to make America a

whole again. Making America great is going to be much better than making

America whole again. And the other main Republican Party

candidate is Ted Cruz, Cruz has talked a lot about cutting

taxes for families and business. He's been strong on immigration too,

saying he'd round up and deport No easy task given that there

are thought to be around 12 million! Like Trump, he's keen

on building a border wall too, but he's got other ideas about who's

going to stump up the cash. "We will build a wall that works,

and I'll get Donald Trump Cruz has so far won 142 delegates -

so trailing in second So long as the field remains

divided, Donald Trump's path to the nomination remains more likely. And

that would be a disaster for Republicans. For conservatives. And

for the nation. And after tonight we have seen that our campaign is the

only campaign that has beaten, that can beat and that will beat Donald

Trump. a kind of senior MP

- in Florida. He's very strongly anti-abortion,

even in cases of rape or incest. He's also against stricter gun

controls and says he'd repeal any new gun controls Barack Obama

is likely to bring in before Rubio's been trying to position

himself as the "anti-Trump2 candidate, and has been trading

playground insults with him The Florida Senator made light

of Trump's apparently short fingers, saying, "You know what they say

about men with small hands - Rubio had won 78 delegates,

putting him third in This was his take on

the results last night. We began to unmask the true nature

of the front runner so far in this race. Five days ago, we began to

explain to the American people that Donald Trump is a con artist. And in

just five days we have seen the impact it is having all across the

country. We are seeing in state after state is numbers coming down,

our numbers going up. who lost out last time around

to Barrack Obama and is the wife She's positioned herself

as the moderate candidate in the Democratic election,

and has promised stricter gun laws. She wants background checks

on people who try to buy guns, and is a strong proponent

of women's rights. She's also had a pop at Trump,

even though she's not up Her take on his campaign -

"You can't just say whatever pops into your head if you want

to be the President!" She is flying high now having won

989 delegates overall. Here she is after her

success last night. It is clear tonight that states in

this election have never been higher. -- stakes. And the rhetoric

we are hearing on the other side have Neser -- has never been lower.

Trying to divide America between us and them is wrong. And we are not

going to let it work. Last up, Bernie Sanders,

the left-wing senator from Vermont. He says he wants big companies

to pay loads more in tax, and wants to set up free healthcare

and free university education. He's a proponent of much

stricter gun laws too. Sanders says he's keen to shake up

the political system in America, and has criticised the influence

of the super-rich there. He wasn't overly optimistic

about his chances though, saying recently: "My God,

if you want to run for president, you're going to need

a gazillion dollars." Sanders now has won at least

349 delegates in total. This campaign is not just about

electing the president, it is about transforming America. It is about

making our great country the nation that we know it has the potential to

be. It is about dealing with some unpleasant truths that exist in

America today and having the guts to confront those truths.

Laura Bicker is in Washington. How significant are these results? There

is still a long way to go. We have around a quarter of the vote in

Super Tuesday. But it does give us an indication of where voters are

pledging their allegiance. When it comes to the Democrats, I think

Hillary Clinton will be feeling very confident. She won seven states,

including the key state of Texas, which is full of delegates. She has

won Texas and a further six states. And I think, especially when you

look at her voting base, she has increased support amongst women. She

is also winning amongst black and Hispanic voters and she is sweeping

across the South. I think she will feel fairly confident. But she is

certainly not pulling any punches. Bernie Sanders has brought new blood

into the party. He has energised young voters with this talk of a

political revolution. She will want those young voters with her when it

comes to the next part of the race. That brings us to the Republicans.

Donald Trump, the front runner. Who thought we would be saying that six

months ago. A billionaire, a reality TV star leading the Republican race.

Many Republicans just simply do not like this. They have tried over the

past week to stop this man. There have been TV adverts running, really

saying his business reputation is not all it is cracked up to be. They

have also tried to get behind Florida senator -- Florida Senator

Marco Rubio. He has only won one state this evening. They are not

pleased with Ted Cruz either. He is a radical in Washington. He is seen

as an outsider. He is seen as the man who shot down the government.

Certainly they are not that pleased with him. They are stepping back and

really they look very divided. It will be very interesting to see what

they do next. If well. Laura, thank you. After ten

o'clock we will be getting reaction from some Americans living in the

UK. Stay with us for that and let us know what you think about what is

going on with the American votes right now.

Now let's catch up with the weather. Yesterday we were talking about

Weather Watch pictures being sent in. -- Weather Watchers pictures.

You tried to send one? I did. I was in the rain and I took a picture.

We have had a variety of weather this morning. Some of us have had

some snow. This was sent in area. Quite a bit of snow first thing in

Northern Ireland. It was not just in Northern Ireland. This is a recent

picture that one of the Weather Watchers has sent in from Harrogate.

A little bit of snow. A very similar story in Accrington in Lancashire.

It was not the whole story. Not all of us did see snow. In Kent it was a

beautiful start to the day. There are some showers now. A country of

many bits today. There is some snow in that forecast

for the rest of the day. You can see where the snow has been

falling, adding to the totals already across Scotland for the as

we go through the rest of the morning and temperatures rise, what

you will find is the snow level will also rise, so it will tend to be

more in the hills. Then we run into the next weather feature, gusty

winds, already happening across parts of the South West and

south-west Wales. It is sweeping through the English channel as well

towards the Channel Islands. And the showers will be interspersed with

some sunshine, but it will feel cold where ever you are, temperatures

tempered by the wind. Through the evening and overnight, once again we

have showers pushing from the west towards the east, still a wintry

flavour. And with low temperatures, there is still a widespread frost,

and we are looking at ice tomorrow morning, something to be aware of.

This is the picture tomorrow morning, a little sleet as well as

rain at lower levels. A lot of them will tend to fade, and most of us

will have a dry day. You can see we have this line of rain coming in

across south-west England, south-west Wales and also Northern

Ireland. This is actually a weather front coming in from the west, and

it will drift eastwards. Once again we will see some snow falling out of

the sky along with sleet and rain. Picking up the story for Thursday

evening, we have this rain coming in with sleet and snow mixed in, and

that will continue into Friday, the front crossing into the near

continent, which you can see this curl coming back, and it is a

mixture of rain, sleet and snow, and it does mean that something we are

keeping a close eye on, it could change, it could move a little

further south or indeed a little further north. But it is going to be

a cold day whichever way you look at it. And that in itself will lead to

a cold weekend, and you will need to get your woolly jumpers out again

for the weekend. More later on. Hello it's ten o'clock,

it's Joanna Gosling, just joined us...coming

up before 11. A group of 70 doctors,

academics and public health experts are calling for a ban on tackling

rugby games in schools because of the risk

of serious injury. Some children want to play contact

rugby, and there is a place for that, but children are often

compelled to play at as part of the national curriculum, and the RFU

desires to expand this play. What we are arguing is that the game is a

great game, but it should be a game of touch in school systems. We will

get reactions from mums and young rugby players.

# Work, work, work if you are in your 20s, you face plenty more work,

work, work, get to retire till you're in your

mid 70s or possibly even later. In America it was a good night

for both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton on the biggest

day in the race for the US Each secured seven out of eleven

states on "Super Tuesday" although there were important wins

for their rivals who vowed As we've been hearing on this

programme, there's been a call to ban tackling on the school rugby

pitch due to risk of serious More than 70 doctors and specialists

have written to the government warning of lifelong

consequences from injuries from the high-impact

collision sport. Matt Perry told us his views. I have

had a number of injuries myself, and I think I would be in a better place

now from these protocols. There's been a warning that that

22-year-olds now may have to work well into their 80s -

unless they start saving Lib Dem MP Steve Webb,

formerly the pensions minister, says that even if they do

save at the minimum level, they may not be able to retire

until they're 77 years old. The estimates we have made, if

people aged 22 now, if they only say that the minimum level, this 8% of

salary, they could be working to something like 77 if they want the

kind of pension and their parents had. A trickle of migrants is being

allowed into Macedonia from Greece is around 10,000 remain camped at

the crossing. 200 people from Syria and Iraq were let in overnight. The

bottleneck is caused by more and more EU nations further north in

posing tougher border controls. Let's go to the Supreme Court right

now. Judges have made big judgments on whether employers are responsible

for the actions of their employees. And responsible for criminal

actions. This is a desperately sad case. In 2008, at Morrison's petrol

station in Birmingham, a man called Ahmed Mohammed went to the petrol

station, Didier pressure on his tyres and then went into the kiosk

and asked the staff to help him print often documents from a USB

stick that he had. He got an extremely rude response to that.

That Ben was followed up by some racist abuse. He was followed out

onto the forecourt by a Morrison's employee, a man called Angie Ucan,

who proceeded to punch him in the head. -- Tabac three.

Anjid Khan. This case was brought by Mr Mohammed's family, he died of an

unrelated illness. This case was brought by his family who were

seeking to hold Morrison's vicariously liable for those

criminal acts by Mr Khan, so at the heart of this case was the test as

to when an employer is liable for the criminal conduct of an employee.

Today, the Supreme Court has unanimously ruled in favour of Mr

Mohammed's family, and against Morrison's, and it has found that

Morrison's were vicariously liable for those criminal acts of their own

employee, and as you say, it is a ruling which roared and the law. --

broadens the law. Previously it was only when the employment involved an

element of risk, such as a nightclub bouncer or a carer in a care home.

This broadens that out. Use Boca but half of the bar pro bono. Give me

your take on how significant this is false. We are delighted with this,

because Mr Mohammed had lost in the Court of Appeal, and this ruling

says that the law must be applied flexibly to ensure that justice is

done in the case. In doing so, they have ruled in his favour, and made

it easier for victims of violence to bring claims against businesses

where violence has occurred in their interaction with that business. And

it may also have indications on cases when open please might be

exposed to violence or assault in the workplace. Yes, in the past it

has been very difficult to pin liability on the employer and claims

Epingle to get individual, but this means it will be easier in the

future to argue that the employer is liable for what the ploy has done in

the course of his duties. And a statement, Morrison's have sent that

this is a highly regrettable and appalling incident. They have said

that although the law has not been changed, they acknowledge their

liability in this case, so as I say, this is a ruling which employers up

and down the land will be looking at with great care, because it does now

make it rather easier for anyone who is affected by violence on behalf of

an employee to bring a claim against their employer. Joanna, back to you.

Thank you very much, Clive. The Government says Britain will be

weaker, less safe and worse off if it leaves the use. -- the EU.

It's published a document setting out the claims.

Those wanting the UK to leave the European Union have dismissed

the report as a "dodgy dossier" that ignores the risks of staying in.

There were 23 near misses of drones and planes around airports

That's led pilots to call for research into what would happen

In one incident a drone passed within 25 metres of a Boeing

After nearly a year aboard the International Space Station

a Nasa astronaut and a Russian cosmonaut have returned

Their 340-day mission aboard the International Space Station

was twice the length of a normal stay, which is will form part

of a study looking at the effects of what long-duration spaceflight

Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Chris Mitchell.

Leicester have captured the hearts of the neutrals in the title race -

but last night's result leaves the door wide open

It does! Leicester draw shocker is the top story.

You are right, Tottenham could go top tonight if they beat West Ham.

Claudio Ranieri says his side played well but couldn't catch a break.

Tonight we weren't so lucky. We played much better than Norwich, and

there we won, and today we drew, so I am not happy, but I am satisfied

for the performance. Sometimes you can play well and the

ball doesn't go in. Sir Bradley Wiggins and Laura Trott Haruna

strong British team starting at the velodrome today. Wiggins, who won

the time trial in 2012, is hoping to grab a spot in the format pursuit

team. There are so many guys that can do your job, so you are always

looking over your shoulder and trying to produce each session, and

it is quite cut-throat. If you are not up to it, someone else's, and it

is nice having numbers, because it keeps you training every day, keeps

you doing the right things, and no one takes for granted that their

spot is booked. The England centre Manu Tuilagi says he will be

honoured to play a trick and again after being re-called to the England

Six Nations squad. He is in line for a return for the match day squad a

week on Saturday against Wales. And when you watch boxing at the

Olympics later this year, you might notice something a little different.

Gone are those head guards, mailboxes will not be wearing those

protective head guards. The women still will be, the boxing

authorities say the move will lead to fewer concussions. Boxers have

worn headgear at every Olympics since 1984, but research shows that

moving them could actually lead to less serious injuries. The theory is

that opponents don't apply so much force, don't hit so hard, if the

head is unprotected. The change has already been made in amateur boxing,

but it has now been ratified by the International Olympic Committee.

That's all sports are now, Joanna. Thank you, Chris. Thank you for

joining us this morning if you have just joined us, we are BBC Two on

the BBC News channel for the next hour. Throughout the programme we

will bring you a latest breaking news and developing stories, and

we're keen to hear from you on all the stories we're talking about. You

can get in touch and all the usual ways, and don't forget. Loads of you

have been getting in touch today on the subject of rugby in schools and

whether rugby tackles should be banned in schools. Josh says, I'm

21, when I was in school we used to play rugby, at a younger age we

played that run. As an older age we played contact rugby, but we knew

the dangers involved. Our PE teacher was always on hand to control the

tackles and help us tackle properly without danger. James Azema to say I

have played rugby since the age of five, and I have gained friendships

that will last a lifetime and developed a range of skills. I have

suffered concussion once over this period, so if you're going to ban

tackling, what about other contact sports? Rugby is a well looked after

sport and it makes you grow up. And Michael has e-mailed to say you

cannot take tackling out of rugby, do that and it is no longer rugby.

Kids can't be wrapped in cotton wool. Rugby build a spirited

competition, take tackling out of grassroots run the and you destroy

the game at all levels. So many of you getting in touch on this one, so

do keep your thoughts coming in. It all comes because of the fact that

more than 70 doctors and health experts have written to the

Government to call for a ban on tackling in schools. Let's talk to a

couple of young rugby players, Angus Swanson who is 20, he had a brain

haemorrhage at the age of 18 but still plays and coaches and under 14

team, and Hayley Everett who is 18 and plays rugby at university. Thank

you both rain much for coming in. The what do you think of this?

Banning contact in schools will impede the game. If children are not

taught to tackle properly with the correct technique at a younger age,

how are expected to do it when they play adult rugby? S me and Hayley

were discussing this beforehand. If children are not taught proper

tackle discipline, when they do get to a level... If we banned contact

in rugby and they are not taught proper tackling when they are young

and impressionable, by the time they get to an age where they are

involved in proper tackling, they're going to be dumping on their heads.

You did suffer an injury. What happened? I took the ball into

contact badly. I had the ball high. You are supposed to carry it about

here. I had my chin, my head popped back. I woke up a month later. Those

who want to see contact rugby band say that not all kids will go on to

play it later. If they are being forced to do something that could

cause them injuries, life-threatening injuries, life

changing injuries, it is not a risk worth taking. What would you say to

that? At the end of the day although it is something taught in schools as

part of the curriculum, the onus is on the PE teachers around them to

make sure that the tackling is saved, the correct technique is

being taught. But old so, parents know what their children are going

to be entering into and the players themselves should be aware of the

risks. I have been playing rugby for eight years. I have always known

there are risks. Everybody has accidents and injuries. But at the

end of the day it is part of the game, that is why we play rugby.

Have you played contact rugby and rugby without tackling? I have

played touch rugby as well, which is fun. But for me rugby is a contact

sport. That is why people play it. There is so much you can gain from

rugby. Team spirit, camaraderie. Can she get that without the tackling?

Some people would argue that you could. -- can you get that. What

about the element of compelling children to play when sometimes some

of them might not want to and it can have dangerous for them? I do not

think they should be forced to play. We were never forced to play rugby.

We had the option. In the winter we would play hockey rugby and

football. You had the option. If you did not feel like playing rugby, you

had the option of two less physical sports. Children should be given

that option rather than neutering the game by taking the tackling

aspect out of it. Some people have been getting in touch. They can join

us now as part of our conversation. Madeleine is in Walsall. Her son was

badly injured at school playing rugby when he was 14. And Sam is in

the Scottish Borders. He played rugby at school. Pat is in Bristol.

Her grandchildren play rugby at school. Thank you for joining us.

What happened to your boy, Madeleine? The teacher was not

paying attention at the time and my son experienced a bad tackle from

one of the children. He fell onto his face into the hard ground, which

caused one of his teeth to go through his bottom lip and out of

his chin. He lost two thirds of the other two. He had to have stitches

in his chin as well as having to have the tooth capped. He has since

gone on to a root canal treatment. He has had infections. They had to

drill into his gums to release pressure. It is an ongoing battle.

He will lose what remains of the tooth soon. It really knocked his

confidence. I had to go and collect him. He was crying, he was sure

Corp. We had to go to A He did not actually like rugby. He

mentioned a couple of weeks before that how he did not like it. But

suddenly at his school it was scheduled to happen and they could

not say no. It was something they had to take part in. Also, I just

want to point out that mouth guards were not recommended by the school.

After my son had his accident and lost his tooth, they actually sent a

letter out to advise all pupils play rugby with mouth guards. What do you

think about those elements being discussed today, for their kids

should be forced to play rugby in schools and whether it should be

touch rugby or contact rugby? I think touch rugby is a very good

idea. From my own experience and my son's experience. It does still

bother him now. It is a personal choice. My son did not like rugby

from the start. Sadly he ended up being one of the injured pupils. He

did not want to take part and I do not think our children should be

forced to do anything they do not want to do. Sam, what is your view?

Sorry, Pat joining us from the Scottish Borders. It is Sam. Maybe

we have lost some. Pat, your grandchildren play. What do you

think? It should be personal choice. I do not think it is fair making

children that are a bit intimidated play football. I have got two grand

sons playing rugby in senior school and they love it. They are very

sporty. But as grandparents we always worry. I just feel it is not

worth the risk. I do not think it should be the government who... I do

not see why children should be forced to play something they are

not happy about. What about people saying it is nanny State? I do not

think it is. I think it comes to personal choice. We are all

individuals. If you are not enjoying it you should not be forced to do

it. What do you think when you hear that? I agree in the fact that no

child should be forced to do something they do not wish to do.

There are sports I did in secondary school that I wish I did not have to

do. For various reasons. What they sports that could have resulted in

injury? There is always a concern of injury and rugby. As Pat said about

children being quite small, everybody grows at different rates.

Some are larger than others and more suited to the game. We have got some

back. What is your perspective? I was about 14 years old 20 years ago.

I was a much bigger child, much stronger than other children and I

was not into rugby. I was into athletics and football. That is

where my heart lay. But the teacher was insistent. He threw a son to be

rugby pitch and got us going. It was pretty much the first time I held a

rugby ball. I was tripped up, hit the floor and cracked my shoulder

blade here. It made a hairline fracture. My throwing arm was never

right after that. I think if we had been taught how to tackle properly

rather than just being chucked in the deep end and told to get with

it, then things would be better. After I had healed, although it

never fully healed, they took me, because I was still one of the

biggest in my class, and rugby matches. And I took that one of the

opponents and I broke someone's leg. I did not know what I was doing. I

was just told to take the ball come run to the other end of the pitch. I

still do not completely understand rugby. It could have been taught

better. What do you think about whether kids should be forced to

play and should be playing contact or touch? I have a couple of

children. They are both maniacs, they are very physical. They need to

let out there, I am not sure if it is aggression or energy, in some

particular way, but it could be done in a more controlled manner rather

than, just get on with this, in what can be a dangerous sport. I think it

affected me in the future after that. I do not want my

three-year-old, who may start playing rugby in the next year two,

to not taught that. I think things might have changed since the 1990s.

I hope so. Thank you very much some. And thank

you to the rest of you. Thank you for all your comments.

No one is really sure what daily brutalities so-called Islamic State

carries out in the areas it controls.

Reporting from Syria is so dangerous now,

from any news organisation go anywhere near IS controlled areas.

But there are a number of activist groups which manage to smuggle

information to the outside world at huge risk to their own lives.

One activist based in Raqqa - the capital of the so-called

Islamic State controlled territory - has been keeping a series of diaries

for the Today programme on Radio 4 which we've been

We've changed names and some details and had his words are spoken for him

The days seem all the same now. The revolution sparked my hopes and

dreams. I dreamt of leaving my country and building a better life

elsewhere. But that is no longer possible. My country needs me. I

hear her calling like a mother to her son. It is early morning. I have

been woken. I can hear the sounds of explosions and children crying. It

is a bitter reminder of reality and the need to focus on staying alive.

The explosions are getting closer. My brother and I go outside to see

what is happening. One of our neighbours is running around

hysterically. He is asking if anybody has seen his son. He went to

Brighton bread. -- to buy some bread. We run to Mohammed's house as

fast as we can, to find scattered bodies. One of them belongs to a

pregnant woman. She was due to give birth in a few days. Then the noise

of warplanes grows louder. One is overhead. We all scatter. It is

quite like the ones that hit was a few days ago, a Russian plane. After

the planes had gone, I got up and walked to the shop I work in. My

boss, who was quietly slipping -- sipping tea, give me a smile. I

noticed he was not smoking. That was unusual. He usually had a cigarette.

But Daesh have banned smoking. After smelling his cigarette they had

humiliated him, then they beat him up as if he was a criminal. While we

were talking, two men carrying some papers went into the shop next door.

Seconds later, they walked into ours. They handed us both pieces of

paper before leaving without a word. These were an order from Daesh,

banning all televisions in shops. We had a week to remove ours. It seemed

it was not enough to stop is talking to the outside world, now we cannot

even look at it. A little later a friend Kim in the shop. We had not

seen him since he was arrested by Daesh. You are alive, I shouted! We

thought you were dead. He laughed with a weird smile on his face. He

said the last time he was arrested it was because his trousers were too

long. Daesh insist they should be above ankle length. Anybody found

breaking this rule is to undergo a course. Then my mobile rang. It was

my mother. She asked me to buy some groceries for the family. But I

cannot afford much these days. Tomatoes now cost more than 400

Syrian pounds and rice is about 400. It is terrible. On the way back I

thought of plot of excuses. But I didn't need to. Like most parents

here, my mother was just delighted I had not been arrested or killed and

was safely home again. That film was produced by the artist

and animator Scott Coello for Radio 4's Today programme -

you can watch it back on their programme page and tomorrow

we will have the next Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

surge ahead on Super Tuesday. We'll get reaction from

Americans in the UK. And returning to Earth

after a year in space - we'll be speaking to two space

experts about the two astronauts readjusting to life back home

after landing safely just Donald Trump says he wants to unify

America, and Hillary Clinton says the world needs more love,

after last night's US presidential primaries saw each stretch

out their lead for the nominations. Republican Trump and Democrat

Clinton each secured seven out As we've been reporting,

doctors and specialists are warning that school rugby

tackling is so dangerous About 70 experts have written

to the Government saying high impact collisions can have

lifelong consequences. Former England international

Matt Perry told us about his I had a number of injuries myself,

Concussion being one, and if I was around now with the protocols, I

would be in a better place. And this programme's been told

that 22-year-olds may have to work

well into their 80s - unless they start saving

for a pension straight away. MP Steve Webb - formerly

the pensions minister - says even if they do -

they could be waiting till the age The estimates we have made, able age

22 now, if they only say that the minimum level required, eight ascent

of salary, them and their employers together, they could be working to

77 if they want the pensioner parents had. We will hear the full

interview soon, and we will be talking to people affected by it,

and if you are thinking about having to work into your 80s, what do you

think? A trickle of migrants has been

allowed into Macedonia from Greece as around 10,000 remain

camped at the crossing. About 200 people from Syria and Iraq

were let in overnight. The bottleneck is caused by more

and more EU nations further north There is more claim and counterclaim

today in the EE referendum debate. The Government says Britain will be

weaker, less safe and worse off Its published a document

setting out the claims. Those wanting the UK to leave

the European Union have dismissed the report as a "dodgy dossier" that

ignores the risks of staying in. We will hear from the Foreign

Secretary Philip Hammond shortly. Chris Mitchell has the sport. Lester

shocker, the drew, but it has got very exciting in the Premier League.

They missed a chance to go five points clear at the top because of

that free kick from West Brom's Gardner. It means Tottenham could

replace Leicester at the top tonight if they beat West Ham, but that will

be tough. The Olympic and world champion Sir Bradley Wiggins and

Laura Trott both in action, and a strong British team they start at

the London Olympic velodrome today, one o'clock the team pursuit starts.

Places for this man, so -- Sir Bradley are up for the limits in

Rio. Manu Tuilagi hasn't played for England since 2014 but has been

re-called to the England squad. He should return to the match day squad

against Wales a week on Saturday. You have been talking about no

tackling in run it, ridiculous, many people are saying, but how about no

predictive head guards the boxes at the Olympics? You are used to seeing

these, and the women will still have them in Rio, but the boxing

authorities say statistics show the move to remove them will actually

lead to fewer concussions. So, for the men in Rio, the blue one and the

red one, the headgear, it is gone. Interesting. Thank you, Chris. Loads

of you getting in touch on the rugby still. More on that a little later.

But now let's talk about US politics. Donald Trump and Hillary

Clinton have extended their lead is in the race to become the candidates

for the Republicans and Democrats. They are an course to win seven

states each on Super Tuesday. Super Tuesday is when the campaign

for the American presidency Voters in 11 states get their pick

that day, and more delegates are in play than at any

other time in the race. If they don't win delegates,

a candidate might as well pack their bags and,

if history is any indication, With simultaneous voting

across several states, we will get a more immediate sense

of the direction of this campaign. A test run, if you will,

for the real thing. But it's tricky for

the candidates, and here's why. It stretches them thin in the two

ways that matter most - A would-be nominee can't

be everywhere at once, so how they spend

their time is vital. When a candidate can't be

there in person, he or she needs a good campaign operation,

and TV ads, lots of TV ads. I'm Donald Trump, and I

approve this message. So, if nothing else,

Super Tuesday can be thought of as a series of final exams

all held on the same day. The candidate has to perform well

across enough of them to graduate to the next phase of the campaign,

and if they don't, it's "Thanks for trying -

better luck next time." Let's speak to four Americans living

in the UK, two Republicans and two Democrats. What you think?

Statistically and historically, it looks like it will be Donald Trump

and Hillary Clinton. I would personally not like either of them.

Who is your preferred candidate? At the moment, Ted Cruz. I don't vote

until May for Oregon, so I have been more focusing on who I don't think

would make a good president before choosing somebody that I will be

voting for, so right now, I'm not sure if I'm going to stick with Ted

Cruz. Why is that? I am looking for people that I don't support. Drew,

you are a Democrat. Undecided? I am still on the fence between Bernie

Sanders and Clinton. I like the ideology of Sanders. I like the goal

of reducing the wealth gap in the United States. My concern being a

bit of a realist as well is that I don't know if those policies

necessarily economically make sense, so while he can promise these

things, I don't know if it is something that can actually happen.

So if I was pushed to it, I would probably vote for Clinton, but not,

she wouldn't be my first choice. And what would you think of a

Clinton-Trump showdown? I would have no choice than to vote Clinton. I

still think Clinton would win, I think it would make for a very

interesting election campaign. I think, Donald Trump has been such a

wild card, and no one thinks he will be able to win the primary, people

just were ignoring him, and he has got all the way to this point, so

you can't necessarily count him out, which is, as an American, slightly

terrifying, but I think Clinton would still win. Alicia, you are

Republican, but not for Trump, either? I am a Marco Rubio

supporter, and he probably fared the worst, coming out with only one

state, and Trump did very well, as expected, and inevitably will become

the nominee, I think. But the Washington elite don't want him?

Yes, it will be interesting to see what they do, because they work

Lessing around Marco Rubio. -- they were coalescing around Marco Rubio.

Is having such a wide field doing them any favours? Is it time to

Rubio to go even though he was their preferred candidate? Yes, there have

been a number of calls for Republicans to consolidate, and that

would increase their share of the vote and possibly put up a fight

against Trump. The Republican establishment has been trying to

persuade people like Ben Carson to drop out. The problem is that not

all of those votes were necessarily go to Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio,

depending on which one is dating, there is still a percentage that I

think would go to Trump that leave Carson or Ted Cruz. And as we saw

last night, some of these states, he is up 40%, so he doesn't need that

many more votes, and I fear that even with a consolidated field, it

will be a very tough shot to beat him. Vanessa, you are Democrat,

Bernie Sanders? Yes, I am his target audience, I am a millennial, I have

student debt, the cards are stacked against us, and I'm ready for

change. It is part of the reason I moved abroad three years ago, I used

to live in China which is not the standard American democracy that we

should all aspire to be, but after moving here, I really saw the

opportunities to have access to health care, to limit gun control,

and access to those weapons here, and I think it should be standard in

America as well. After last night, it doesn't look... It isn't looking

like it is going to be him? No, it's not, and after studying economics, I

think you have a real good point about the validity of some of these

Republican candidate and how these outrageous things that Trump is

saying is pandering to a very small but powerful community that's giving

him all the support for some reason. I think in reality, the GOP really

needs a makeover on what it stands for and who it is trying to reach in

order to fight Donald Trump. Just quickly, if it is Donald Trump, will

you swing behind him? No. I would have a very hard time voting for

Donald Trump unless you see significant change. So what would

you do? If it was Trump versus Hillary, but if I had to pick one, I

probably would vote for Hillary. And what would you do? I probably

wouldn't vote. It is super Tuesday, so there is

probably some way to go. Now, if you are in your 20s, when do you think

you will be able to retire? At the moment, the retirement age for men

is Dixie five and women 63, but by 2020, both men and women will retire

at 66, a six-year jump for women in ten years. Experts warn that people

who are only just beginning to join the workforce could have to carry on

working far longer, with a potential retirement age of their mid-70s,

possibly even having to work into their 80s. A review of the state

pension age is currently under way. Steve Webb, the former Liberal

Democrat pensions minister, now director of policy in London, told

me that young people need to get into a saving habit. There are two

issues, one of which is that we are living longer on average, so the

state pension age will go up more, that is happening around the world.

But that is made worse by the fact that we are generally saving less

our retirement, so although we might get a state pension at 70, something

like that, if they had been earning a decent wage, they will not want to

retire on ?8,000 a year, they will need something more, and unless we

get into much more of the savings habit, they would be able to afford

to retire even at the state pension age. So you're saying what about the

age retirement? The estimate we have made is that people aged 32 now, if

they only say that the minimum level the Government acquires, 8% of their

salary, they could be working to something like 77.

# People aged -- 22 now. Perhaps when they get a

pay rise, they could put that extra bit in before they spend it, and

gradually build up, because otherwise people won't have choices

about when they retire, they will either have to retire on a meagre

income all work for longer. And could people find themselves

working into their eighties? That particularly applies to people who

don't start saving at the beginning of their working life. It is not

uncommon for people not to think about pensions until there are 30 or

40, and the brutal arithmetic is if you don't start until you are half

the way through your working life, you don't have the time to build up

the pot you need for the retirement you want. In a sense, this isn't

telling people off, it is saying, think about yourself, think about

yourself when you are older, the quality-of-life you want, and if you

don't want to have to work until you drop, if you want to have time with

grandchildren or travel or whatever it is, you need to put more aside

now? How do you persuade young people to do that when life is

already expensive enough, they have debts from studies, expensive rent,

they are trying to get into the property

There is lots of pressure on young people. There is one encouraging

development. Government rules that put workers into a pension. Millions

of people are free to opt out of the pension but they have not done so.

Lots of twentysomethings do have a pension. Getting started is really

important. I am not saying you should put a fortune into a pension

at 22. I am saying that when you are saving a pension with your employer

you get tax relief from the government. As your career

progresses, as you get a pay rise, as you get promotions, put some of

that money aside before you have spent it. What does the political

change to the pensions system do to the confidence of people? We need a

period of stability. We have the budget in a couple of weeks. There

is expected to be an announcement on pension tax relief. I hope something

will emerge from that that is stable, simple and predictable. Yes

of course, pensions are not just for Christmas, they are for life. People

need to know the state pension will be there when they retire. We do

desperately need a period of stability and simplicity.

Steve Webb, former pensions minister. Katie McCarron is 23 and

has two jobs. She never even thinks about pensions. Daniel Walters, 26,

also never worries about pensions. And Katie Maureen is a personal

finance reporter. Katie McLaren, does the thought of saving for your

retirement never come into your mind? No. When you are my age,

especially if you have been to university, what you are worried

about Moore is student debt and trying to get your own house and car

and trying to start your life rather than worry about the end of it when

you are trying to settle down and find a place. Does it cut through to

you when you say somebody saying, if you have that attitude you may find

yourself working in your 80s? I worked for quite a few years of my

life. It is hard to save. If I have to work on my 80s, I will. I think

people are not taking into account that it costs more to live nowadays.

For young people it is more of a struggle. Daniel, what do you think?

I am pretty much of the same opinion. I have struggled with money

quite a lot in my life, so I am not thought about pensions. One thing I

do think is that maybe there is too much pressure on us to save money

when there is not enough pressure on the government to save money on arms

and stuff like that. What about the thought of having to work into your

80s? Does that make you think you might try to put something away, or

would you be prepared to work in your 80s? The way things are going I

am not expecting a pension to be available when I am that age anyway,

to be honest. How would you feel about working in your 80s? Obviously

I would be distraught but it is the system and it is what you would have

to do. Caitie, money is tight when you are starting out. These two

saying exactly that. How do people find the money to put the wafer

pensions? I really feel for these guys. They are typical of young

people these days, struggling with student debt, the cost of renting,

buying a property, those costs are somewhat greater than in the past.

Young people are being hit from all angles. It is all very well to say

that you need to save more but that is grossly unrealistic. This

proposal by the government extremely worrying. Something we really need

to be looking at is healthy life expectancy as well as actual life

expectancy. What we know at the moment is around one third of people

aged between 65 and 75 have a limiting illness that may prevent

them from doing certain types of work. What we should not just assume

is that for our generation that is not going to be the case as well.

Interestingly, I was talking to a physiotherapist the other day and

one of the things she was saying to me was that with the rise of

technology and smartphones, she was seeing a lot of people with injuries

from text thing and back injuries, skeletal problems, already emerging

from our generation. So to limit our pensions now seems quite scary. What

would you say? In terms of practical advice. The messages if you do not

start saving, you will have to work much later to supplement what you

get from the state? Talk directly to Katie and Daniel. Is there anything

practical you can tell them? If there was one thing I would say, in

about two years all employers will be legally obliged to give you a

company pension. The great thing about that is that they put money in

as well and you put money on. That grows over time. That is in a way

free money you would not get if you were not putting into the pension

and you will automatically be enrolled. It is easy to allow

yourself to be in those pensions. If you want a comfortable retirement,

you would need to be adding more into that pension or saving and

ices. If you did want any chance of retiring earlier are having a good

standard of living, you have to start saving young. The great thing

about starting saving when you are young is that the money has got more

time to grow. You have that big a chance for pensions. At least you

guys are thinking about that now rather than leaving it until the

last minute, which is the worst thing you could do. What do you each

think of that? I am of the opinion basically that all of this is about

not having enough money, our system does not have enough money. But it

does. We have the money to spend on arms and missiles. How have we not

got enough money to protect the most vulnerable people in society? I

would love to start saving for a pension but when you are living

month by month and you are happy that you're making rent and can

afford better food, it is all well and good. But I cannot put one aside

a month. I certainly could not put something aside to some kind of

future. Thank you all very much.

Food prices will go up if Britain leaves the EU, according to the

government. Norman Smith can explain.

Claim and counterclaim continue. What is the latest? We are only one

week into this referendum campaign and already it feels like a

spaghetti western with big old crashing tables and chairs being

turned over. I don't know how we are going to sustain this performer --

four months. Today we have a row over what on earth will happen if

and when we leave. It is one of the unanswered questions of this

campaign. Those who want to leave have not been spelt out what leave

might actually look like. The government have done the job for

them and they have concluded basically that all of the options

are pretty unpleasant. And certainly worse than remaining in. Option one

is the Norway example. Norway has access to the EU single market, even

though it is outside the EU, but the price they have to pay is they have

two allow EU migrants free access to nowhere. If we did that we could

still do nothing about stopping EU migrants coming to Britain. He

second option is the Swiss option. In terms of food, the Government are

saying that you could face tariffs of up to 50%, and companies would

pass the bill is consumers. In the last few minutes, we have been

hearing from the Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond, who said that even

negotiating those deals would involve the prolonged period of

uncertainty which would amend it is business. Our economy would

literally be on hold whilst our competitors, including our European

competitors, forge ahead. And at the end of two years, there is no

guarantee at all that we would have reached agreement, but our exit

would be automatic unless every single member of the remaining

European union agreed to an extension. Access to the single

market would cease, our trading agreements with more than 50

countries around the world would lapse within immediate and negative

effect on confidence, growth investments and jobs. Years of

uncertainty Fern Britton, just as we are getting back on our feet.

It is probably one of the laws of politics that if you do not define

yourself, your opponents will do it for you. If you do not set out your

stall, they will set out their stall and it will not look very

favourable. That is kind of what we have seen today because the out

campaign have not been able to tell us what leaving the EU would look

like. Mr Cameron and his supporters have decided to do the job for them

and it is not a pretty picture. In the past few hours an American

astronaut and a Russian cosmonaut have returned to Earth safely

after spending nearly a year in space, on a mission intended

to prepare for a possible The scientists spent 340 days aboard

the International Space Station trying to learn more about how

the human body adjusts to weightlessness and the

high-radiation environment of space. We can speak now to Monica Grady,

Professor in Planetary Sciences, at the Open University,

and Brendan Owens, astronomer at the Royal Observatory

in Greenwich. They have been in space for nearly a

year. What would you expect the impact to be. --? They have lost

bone density and muscle wastage. What is the interesting about this

particular mention is that the American astronaut has a twin

brother who stayed behind on earth. They will be comparing his changes

with what has happened to his brother in the first study like

this. Was he picked deliberately because of that? Both of them are

astronauts, very handy. Every great opportunity. How does it prepare for

possible voyage to Mars? A voyage to Mars will take at least nine months.

You will be nine months in a low gravity environment where your

muscles will waste, your bones will lose density, your circulation will

start changing, you will be subject to radiation. So having somebody for

a long time in a low gravity environment prepares for that, see

what sort of changes happen and how you can prevent them occurring and

make sure they are not so bad. You are always seen the astronauts on

treadmills and running on the space station. This is why, so they keep

fit and their body does not decay. Thank you very much.

Thank you for your company this morning. So many getting in touch

about whether tackling should be banned in rugby in schools. Reginald

has e-mailed to say that he played rugby from 11 to 36, never agreed

with school policy forcing pupils to play. Felt sorry for those always

last to be chosen. The BBC's website have been asking you to vote on the

issue. The result suggests 15% say it should be banned, 85% say it

shouldn't. Keep the comments coming by a social media. That never

closes. Back same time tomorrow. Had a good afternoon. Goodbye.

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