01/03/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

It is Tuesday, it is 9:15am, I am Joanna Gosling in Fort

This morning - dramatic footage which shows the moment a homeless

man is nearly crushed to death after sleeping in a waste bin.

You can see is a driver as he starts to lift the container, then he

disappears from the view from the front camera over the top of the

cab, and the other camera is looking into the hopper, and as you can see

from this, there was still somebody in the container, despite doing all

the checks that we could. One waste management company says

it's finding three people a week Also on the programme,

clashes between police and migrants overnight in Calais -

we'll be live in the Jungle camp as French riot police

move in to make way And how much salt do you think

is in all of these products? We'll reveal all in around 20

minutes' time, and find out why the amount of salt in some

products is increasing - despite a promise from food

manufacturers to cut it Welcome to the programme,

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or our website, bbc.co.uk/victoria. First this morning, hundreds

of homeless people could be putting themselves at risk of serious injury

or death by sleeping One of the largest rubbish

collection companies, And in the last five years

the bodies of at least 11 people have been found in recycling

depots after being crushed The rise is being put down

to an increase in the number of rough sleepers and partly

because shops are recycling more dry waste like cardboard and plastic,

making the bins more attractive So you can see the driver

as he starts to lift the container, and then he disappears from the view

of the front camera over the top And then you get the other camera

looking into the hopper. As you can see from this video,

despite doing all the checks, there was still someone

in this container. The chances of someone

being in there... May be minimum, but they could be

in there, so this is why we do every A recycling centre near

the docks in Bristol. Thousands of tonnes

of plastic and cardboard come In 2014, staff here called

the police after finding human The fingerprints were matched

to 34-year-old Matthew Symonds. a few nights before,

after getting there too late. into a recycling bin in the back

of a shopping centre. When something like that happens,

it is absolutely devastating. because whatever happens,

we can't bring these people back. Was there anything that could have

been done in that case differently? Honestly, I don't think

there could have been. We have evidence that

the driver checked the bin. That's the worrying

thing about this. No matter how well we check our

containers, there's absoluely no It happens far more often

than you might think. These cameras, mounted on bin

trucks, spotted not one, but two people jumping out of larger

recycling bins seconds before And this footage, taken

at night in Nottingham, A large container is picked up

and the contents dropped 20 feet. A camera inside the compactor itself

shows what happened next. Anybody that goes through a tipping

motion into a truck is very lucky. Generally, you're going to be

falling onto waste that's soft, so you have a little bit

of a cushioned landing. But if you're not seen,

the driver compacts the waste, and the issue is that you won't be

seen until we get to Getting an idea of the scale or size

of this problem is difficult. Biffa is just one waste

management company in the UK. In the year to March 2014,

they found 31 people in their bins. A year later, that had risen to 93

and in the current financial year, which finishes at the end of March,

they have already found 175. I think there's

a combination of factors. We are certainly putting more effort

into our drivers ensuring they report everyone found

in or around our waste containers. But undoubtedly, the numbers

of people homeless and needing to sleep rough are

increasing as well. The only dedicated night shelter

here has 18 beds. It turns away that many again

on a typical night, George says he has been homeless

since he lost his job before His family doesn't know,

and he doesn't want his face Has that ever

happened to you? For the bin drivers themselves,

dealing with all this is now part Barry starts his shift at five,

picking up large commercial containers from shops

and industrial estates. Could be cigarette packets,

or bottles of alcohol if they've All the bins do have locks to stop

people getting inside. In theory, shops, cafes and other

firms can be fined or even taken Maybe it's the same customer

locking their bins. Again, you're looking around

everywhere just to see if there's It's unscientific, but around half

of the bins we found round the back of these shops were left open

and completely unlocked. Another two foot down,

could climb in there, Especially in the winter,

and because there's so many about, we're disgusted that these shelters

are full up and they've Another problem is that we sort

and recycle so much That means those large bins

are often left unlocked, full of dry cardboard

and soft plastic. Shift the cardboard about,

just in case there's We've heard from drivers,

who despite warnings, have found the same people sleeping

in the same bins night after night. I need to keep my eye on the camera,

which is fixed on the top roof. The trucks are fitted with cameras,

so they should be able to see But if someone is hiding

in the bottom of a container, drunk or passed out or just asleep,

they could still be missed. So your customers have some sort

of responsibility to make sure that they're in a safe state and that

people don't climb in? Yes, every bin we supply

to our customers is lockable. There is a device to secure

and lock the containers. Not all of the bins

we go to are locked. It's a UK-wide problem for everybody

that produces waste. The Government says no one should

have to sleep rough, and it is now increasing some

funding to tackle homelessness. The only sure-fire way to cut

the risk is to reduce the number Figures out last week show

the opposite is happening. The number sleeping rough in Bristol

has more than doubled After 10am we'll be joined

in the studio by a man who's homeless and has slept

in bins in the past. If you want to share Jim's

film you can find it on the programme page,

bbc.co.uk/victoria. You have been getting Internet, Nina

says, really, how many sleeping choices does a homeless person have?

They have been dehumanised by the Government. John says shelter and a

bed should be the minimum for everyone, paid for by the state. One

anonymous text says my wife bloke -- works at a charity looking after the

homeless, she has been told that they will be stopped from letting

people sleep at the centre because of financial cuts, bad in this

weather. David says, I take stuff to a local homeless shelter, it is

disgusting this happens. People need to see this, it is real. So many

empty houses, give them shelter. We will be talking more about that

later so keep getting in touch. Demolition teams have moved back

into the migrant camp - known as the Jungle -

in Calais, to continue dismantling Yesterday violence broke out as some

of the workers were pelted with stones and overnight

there were running battles Lorries making their way to the port

were also attacked This morning riot police marched into the camp

as bulldozers moved in to continue The French authorities

want people to move Our reporter Anna Holligan sent this

report a short time ago. We saw and felt the police response

yesterday, they deployed tear gas And now they are heading right

into the heart of the Jungle. They've got their own gas masks

with them attached to their sides, shields, as you can see, batons,

mostly in their belts for now. But the one thing you can be

sure of here in Calais is that the situation

can change very fast. Everyone is on edge,

and the tension yesterday... There are still people

living inside these tents, there were approximately

100 cleared yesterday. The people who were living in this

southern section which was scheduled for demolition, according

to the judge's order last week, they are mostly young men,

the women and children The young men who we were speaking

to yesterday were from Afghanistan, There are lots of

Sudanese people here. Some of them trying to sit

on top of the tents We saw police pointing

a gun at one of them, asking him to come down to make way

for the demolition squads. And then we saw people setting fire

to the wooden structures, perhaps in protest, perhaps before

knowing that the demolition teams You can see down the edge

of this muddy pathway, it looks as though the water cannon

is coming back into position. This is the situation moving

slightly faster than yesterday, it looks as though the police

are coming in first to make way Yesterday was the demolition

team that went in first, I'll stand back so you can

have a look at this developing scene We can speak now to Philli Boyle,

Calais manager for one of the most active volunteer groups,

Help Refugees UK. She has just left the Jungle. Thank

you for joining us. What was the picture when you left? I left about

an hour ago. Things were looking very can. Many people in the

neighbouring area to wear was demolished yesterday had evacuated

during the night. We presume that some will have fled, some will have

gone to seek refuge in the shelters or caravans of friends and family in

other areas of the camp, many will have wanted to avoid being any part

of the scenes that they saw yesterday. What is the objection of

the people you working with to move into the shipping containers? It is

not one or the other. There are 150 places left in the shipping

containers and 3500 people in the southern part of the camp. The

numbers do not tally up. This is our concern, there are not enough

proposed options for the people living in the camp. The French

authorities have said they will move people to shelters in other parts of

France, do you see that as a viable option? Yes, you know, what we want

is for refugees to have a roof over their heads, the warm, clothed, fed

and safe for the winter. If these accommodations are real enough for

everyone, if they are the only option we would encourage the

refugees to take this. The problem that we have is the way that the

authorities have that we have is the way that the

process. Arriving and telling someone they have one hour to get

their belongings together before their shelter will be destroyed as

the best case scenario. Yesterday we saw people returning from a trip to

the toilet to find their shelter had been dismantled and they had lost

all of their possessions. This is not a way to treat people, to show

all of their possessions. This is the kind of dignity that we were

told by the authorities in the last couple of weeks that we would see.

It is not a humane treatment. What are you as a charity doing in that

situation? The long-term volunteers are on the

ground. We have the packs so when people lose their belongs, we make

sure they are given the essentials, we have food pack positions within

the camp to enable people to have something to eat, food that's quick

that they can take and eat on the go should they decide to make their own

way out of the camp and in the days to come. We remain in conversation

with the residents constantly, you know. We are supporting them in the

way that they need. What they have asked us to do is to be peaceful, to

help them communicate with the police where necessary and to supply

the aid that we have always done. Thank you very much.

Still to come: Five years after the food industry sign add voluntary

code saying it would try to reduce salt levels, the programme's been

told some ready meals contain more salt than ever before.

And this is Megan who drowned after a night out. We'll speak to her mum

about it. The main news now: An operation to demolish makeshift

shelters for migrants in the French Bulldozers have moved

in to the camp, known Police are being backed up by water

canon after violent clashes between riot officers

and migrants overnight. Hundreds of homeless people could be

putting themselves at risk of serious injury or death

by sleeping in large recycling bins. One of the largest rubbish

collection companies - Biffa - has told this programme

it is now finding three people Scientists say they have evidence

for the first time that the Zika virus sweeping Latin America can

cause a severe neurological disorder Barclays Bank has announced a fall

in profits and a big shake-up in the company, which will see it

sell its business in Africa. Full-year profits, before tax,

have dropped two percent, Justin Bieber dropped in to see the

singing health workers and congratulate them on their number

one success, he presented them with their award. Let's catch up with the

sport now with Chris. 11-games to go in the Premier League

and Leicester are still top of the table but don't go

thinking they're favourites The Leicester boss has said you need

to be looking at Tottenham if you want favourites..

Claudio Ranieri says the London club He says they along with Arsenal

are the clubs most likely A touch of mind games perhaps

but it's all; good fun, Leicester play tonight they meet

West Brom and you wonder about the motivation

of the West Brom players. Their boss Tony Pulis says he'd love

Leicester to win the title. If Leicester win they'll be

5-points clear at the top.. And for the record

they are favourites. Perhaps next season we#ll be

talking about Brighton for the Premier League,

they've moved to within 1-point of automatic promotion to the top

after they beat Leeds And we'll also be talking Athletics

- it's 500-days to go to the 2017 World Championships in London ,

we'll have some special Salt; we all know we should consume

less of it, but how much salt do you think is in ready

meals like these? Five years after the food industry

signed a voluntary code saying it would try to reduce

salt levels in foods. This programme's been told some

ready meals contain more salt Consensus Action on Salt and Health

or cash call the rise "shocking" and say it's proof the voluntary

scheme isn't working. They're calling for the govt

to intervene. Let us go through what is in these

particular meals because you have been looking into them. This is

Sainsbury's and we are demonstrating with crisp packets because people

understand the salt levels in crisp packets. That has the equivalent of

four standard 25g bags of crisps. Yes. When we last surveyed spag bol

in 2007 we found this particular meal's increased by about 160% since

then, so quite a big jump in salt content which goes against what

they've pledged to do and what many companies have said they would do,

which is to reduce the salt content of the foods in a gradual step so

that not many people would notice the difference in salt taste. Let's

look at ASDA. This has less salt, around two 25g bags of crisps. How

is that done? That also has increased slightly too but you can

tell by looking at the two meals the huge variation in salt content

within any given ready meal, so two competitors, one has twice the

amount of salt as the other which goes to show it's not just one salt

value for all of these meals, there is a huge variation and it's really

important people look at the labels, compare like for like and choose the

healthier option. There's another option that we couldn't get hold of

but it's an ASDA extra special option? Yes. And it has the

equivalent of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight bags of

crisps. It's shocking. People would know that plain crisps are a salty

product, you would know that would contain a significant amount of

crisps, but not the case with ready meals, significantly I'm guessing

that might have been a healthy or luxury range, people would assume

it's healthier, it has more fruits and veg, perhaps more nutrients but

to contain that amount of salt is shocking really.

Sainsburys told us "salt reduction is an important part of our ongoing

programme of reformulation and all the products referenced meet

the government's 2017 salt targets, with the exception of Sainburys

cornflakes which are currently being redeveloped.

So how do you explain why the levels are going up then? Many retailers

and companies in general have actually pledged to reduce the salt

which is great. We have worked with them since the early 2000s to get

salt levels down gradually and it was working very successfully before

the coalition Government came in. It was under the control of the Food

Standards Agency, it was closely monitored and they applied a good

amount of pressure on the industry to follow through. Unfortunately,

after 2010, the Government took responsibility for nutrition away

from the Food Standards Agency and developed this responsibility deal

which is being governed by the Health Minister. I think it's from

that point, and this is what we have seen in the surveys we have done,

not just in the ready meals but other categories of food, it's at

that point that we have seen that pressure has reduced significantly

and therefore the pressure to reduce the salt levels in these foods just

aren't their priority any more. I should say as well, this is

Sainsbury and ASDA ready meals, what about the other two, Morrison and

Tesco? It depends on the category of food we are looking at. The ready

meals, spag bol, they weren't quite as negative in the impact of salt

increases, but we also looked at cottage pie and found increases

there. Cheese, cheddar cheese is a good example of where very little's

happened in the last ten or good example of where very little's

and that could be a situation where they can't remove as much salt

because of the preservative factors or the process in making the cheese.

Having said that, again looking at the 200 cheddar cheese products we

surveyed, there was a Sarah yous once again in the salt content in

there, so there are products that have much less salt in them than

others. Time Rycroft from the Food Drink Federation joins us. Take a

seat, Sonia. What is going on, there was a voluntary level for salt to go

down, they are going up, what's happened? That's not right. The food

and drink industry has taken another 8% of salt out of products so it's

not true to say the responsibility deal has stalled, that is on top of

a 15% level on salt between 2001 and 2011. How does that square with what

we are seeing over there? If we take salt out of the national diet, we'll

have to do that across a huge range of foods. You are picking on a few

products. Sonia says salt levels are flat in some categories an going

down in others. Progress is being made. 50% less salt in crisps now

than in the early 90s. If progress is being made obviously in a large

number of areas that you are talking about, why sit that some products

are being able to slip through the net and the salt content is

increasing? Individual manufacturers and retailers I suspect will always

have variations in products, there'll be competition between

them. What I would say is our responsibility as consumers is to

use the front of pack labelling which will always declare how much

salt is in there and how much of your guideline daily allowance that

represents to make informed choices, so those products that are

relatively speaking high in salt will declare it on the front of the

pack. A fair Sonia, there for everyone to see? It is, but that

relies on people to be more oak I van and to use the labels and it's

-- more observant. Without people realising the salt has increased in

their popular brand, it becomes very difficult. I appreciate your point,

we appreciate the food industry has been reducing the salt but the

surveys we found which admittedly is only in five categories of food, but

refry day products that people would buy weekly probably, we have found

the biggest reductions were under buy weekly probably, we have found

the Food Standards Agency control. Those reductions have now slowed

down or halted all together under the responsibility deal. Sorry, I

don't think that. the responsibility deal. Sorry, I

a role in food that is Cowan to taste. The salt in bread slows down

the yeast, makes the dough stronger, there's only so much salt you can

take out of bread before there's only so much salt you can

being bread. The fact huge progress has been made, it's not surprising

that there is a bit of a slowdown in some categories where it's getting

harder to take salt out and still bring consumers with us. It has

preservative value as well? It increases shelf life as well. Using

salt instead of artificial preservatives is something consumers

would appreciate. I suppose it's the shock factor of people not

necessarily knowing what shock factor of people not

consuming. For instance, one particular tin of soup has more salt

in it than a Big Mac and large fries, people think they are taking

a healthy option when they have soup? I do come back to the

labelling and great work that CASH has done, the advice on salt has

been consistent for a long time and people do understand that they need

to think about their salt intake, so we need to work to help people

understand the labels, to use the labels, to make those informed

choices and if they want to choose a lower salt product, use the labels

to help you choose. Do you think anything should change, Sonia? Do

you think that the voluntary system is working effectively? Should there

be a mandatory system? If the voluntary process does not work,

then we do need to start considering the mandatory side. Would you say

it's working as it stands? The way it is now, currently, no. Under the

Food Standards Agency, it was working, if you apply a significant

amount of pressure and you monitor the industry with annual reviews and

updates, it can work and that's the best way to do it if we all work

collectively. But you think now it's the time for mandatory reducing? I

would say so unless David Cameron within his obesity strategy plan

whenever that comes out, in the summer I think, if they can include

an independent agency that would be in charge of nutrition that isn't

affected by the current Public Health Minister at the time, then

that could help, but otherwise, mandatory would be, and many

countries have already done that, South Africa is an example where

they have set mandatory targets for their products and all countries

have to follow. Would put a figure on what the targets should be?

Currently we have voluntary targets for about 80 different categories of

food, those could be the mandatory targets that people have to follow

and if the companies don't meet the maximum or average levels, they

should be fined. What would the food and drink industry have to fear from

that? I think mandatory targets would be

incredibly complicated to put in place. Given we have a system that

is currently working, I don't ink there is a case. People would say it

is not working and salt levels are increasing. We are waiting for a

whole population information on sodium intake on the last day to

have is for 2011, there is new data due soon, that will be a good

indication. Today 's reporters a bit of a snapshot, the whole population

data will help us to make a judgment. Our members are continuing

to make progress to reduce salt. If that data showed the pig jurors...

Figures were going wrong direction, would you be looking to make

amendments? Yes, it is well-known that salt is something we need to

consider. Thank you both very much. Coming up, the dramatic footage

which shows the moment a homeless man is almost crushed to death by a

bin lorry. One man who has been speaking rough for the past four

years shows us why he resorted to sleeping rough in a bin.

There were 400 accidental deaths in water in the UK last year -

that's more than the number of fatalities in domestic fires

Drowning is one of the leading causes of accidental death

and for the first time today there is a concerted effort

to tackle those numbers with a group of organisations and charities

trying to make people more aware of the risks.

Jackie Roberts' 20-year-old daughter Megan died in January 2014.

She fell into the River Ouse in York after a night out with friends.

She is here with me, thank you very much for joining us. Obviously a

devastating tragedy for your family, tell us what happened to Megan? She

was on a midweek student social night out. You know, large groups of

them were out in York. At the end of the night, they left the club, Megan

got sort of left behind a group of other young people. They were all

quite drunk. She inadvertently followed one of the young men who

turned right before the bridge, possibly to go for a week, and she

followed him, not realising she was going the wrong way. He did not see

her, and as he came back up she went under the bridge and fell in from

some step into a very fast flowing, icy cold river. You say she had been

drinking? Yes, they had all been drinking. Uni had not reopened, it

was just after Christmas, she went back early. Where she was, how easy

would it be for somebody to stumble and fall? Incredibly easy. That

particular area was a bit of an accident waiting to happen, it was

incredibly close to where they had been drinking, it shows how easily

these things can happen. It is extraordinary to know that there are

400 accidental deaths every year like Megan's. Was that something you

were aware of? It is not a figure out there like other things like

cycling deaths? There is not a spotlight? My children were all

taught to swim, I assumed they knew the general risk. None of us would

have ever realised what a risk open water was, like something like this

could happen so quickly. What sort of changes do you want to be made as

a result of Megan's death, and the other deaths happening in similar

circumstances? There has been a significant amount of changes in

York, for instance, where the university has done a lot of work.

There are organisations like the Royal Life Saving Society, who I do

some work with as well, with awareness raising campaign

increasing education and old people's behaviour. There is the

other side of things, councils can do a little bit more to maybe put

barriers and strategic points -- increasing education to alter

people's behaviour. When you say alter people's behaviour, does that

go back to the drinking? You said Megan had been drinking? That is

quite a significant part. A huge percentage of drownings are people

with alcohol in their bloodstream. The tendency is for it to be young

men who go off, maybe on their own, leave their friends, it is more

likely to be young men ending up in that situation, but unfortunately

Megan... It was a tragic, freak accident, what happened to her. Tell

us more about her? Yeah, she was lovely. She was in her second year

of a final degree at uni, a very creative and bright young lady. She

had made lovely friends at uni who are now my friends, which is really

nice. She was always considered to be somebody that you could talk to

and she would understand and be able to help people, that's kind of

character, she was lovely. You said she could swim, but the dangers of

water was not something that was ever on your radar or hers? She was

probably the best swimmer in the family, and excellent swimmer. You

just don't consider it, open water is very, very dangerous. Harold

Murch has talking about what happened to Megan and trying to make

sure that other people are aware of the dangers helping you through the

grieving process? -- how much has talking? It has been helping me, it

is quite common with parents, particularly when they become

bereaved very, very quickly, to try to do something in their honour and

transform the loss into a legacy. In Megan's case, this is hopefully

prevent it happening this and stop it is trying to make a positive out

of Megan 's loss. You look at things like level crossings, safety has

improved dramatically records of being a focus, would you like to see

more safety barriers along rivers? Yes. Personally, if it will make a

difference, I would definitely like to see more. But I think it is a

combination of education and putting the barriers and things in place,

improving lighting, that's kind of thing. Thank you for talking to us,

Jackie. Every day this week we are showing a

series of films which tried to give an insight into what life is like in

the capital of the so-called Islamic State, Raqqa, in eastern Syria. It

is based on a diary of an activist. Yesterday he took this back to when

IS first arrived in his city, he was arrested and told he would face 40

lashes. Today he tells us what happened next. To protect his

identity, his words are spoken to him.

When I arrived at my front door, I collapsed. After hearing what had

happened to me, my pregnant sister had gone into shock and began

bleeding heavily. We knew we had to get it to a gynaecologist as quickly

as possible, but when we arrived at the clinic we found that it was

closed. The man outside told me, the doctor has been my neighbour for

years but Daesh arrested him and shut down his clinic. They forbid

male doctors from treating female patients. We had to trouble to find

a female gynaecologist. My sister was told to go home and rest.

Later in the day I bumped into an old friend. Looking nervous, he

pulled me aside. We formed a secret campaign group against Daesh, he

whispered, we want the whole world to know what these murderers are

doing to our city. You can play a part. I met my friend, who runs a

shop, on the way home. He pointed to a score -- store across the road is

owned by a man we had known for many years. A group of Daesh men were

speaking to him, one of them held papers in his hand. Hey, who owns

the shop? My friend replied, it is mine, how can I help? This is

supposed to be eight gritty that the poor, but acts as a kind of tax for

Daesh. He said he was from that group and was collecting tax. My

friend said he had paid what he was due. Shut up, the Daesh man shouted

back. You must pay as 100,000 Syrian pounds. My friends gasped, that is

too much, but he paid. The severed heads of others are hung on Park

fences as a brutal warning. Our home was rocked by explosions last night.

I switched on television to hear the news that the international

coalition was launching its first air strikes against Daesh. The next

day, a local cab driver told me that many of Daesh's buildings had been

hits. He warned me, police are roaming the streets in big numbers

looking for spies. A crowd had gathered around a deep Hull.

Crouched inside it was a woman. I asked to she was and what she was

doing. Before I got an answer, a large masks man began wailing. This

woman was an adulterous and her punishment is to be stoned to death.

His words were interrupted by the noise of warplanes. A local vendor

shouted, Hyde, hide! There were big explosions and body parts

everywhere. Roasted them belong to civilians. It was a Russian air

strike on a supposedly targeting terrorists. Isn't the terrorism we

suffered on the ground enough? Now you bring it from the skies as well?

That film was produced you bring it from the skies as well?

and animator for the today programme on Radio 4. Tomorrow we will have

the next day re-entry. We often see your lovely pictures

sent in Absolutely right. It is called a

geolocator, it means you can send in pictures from anywhere. The Weather

Watchers' pictures are brilliant, we use them in lots of television

broadcasts. They show the weather where you are, like this one in

Swindon yesterday, really cold and frosty. But it was not just cold and

frosty in Swindon, this is from Suffolk, it also shows the sunshine.

And another one from Bournemouth beach, a beautiful shot. If you

compare yesterday's crisp, cold, sunny and wintry weather to today,

it is another good tool that we use these pictures for, it has been a

wet start in Durham this morning, as in Manchester. All sent in by

Weather Watchers. In London this morning we saw some rain, this was

sent in from roars from the weather centre. If we look at the Weather

Watchers' tools and how they have been dated, you would change your

name and put in Joanna Gosling, you might want to create that report for

the empty box in the corner. That is where you would put in your picture.

Before you could just send it from one location, maybe your home

address or a picture from your work, you might have a lovely view. Now if

you press the icon in the corner, it will choose exactly where you are

from. You may have London, for example, you can put in your

picture. The temperature, whatever you want. I imagine that is exactly

what you do as soon as you get into the studio. I was just thinking

that! If you're wondering how you do it, you can do it by going online.

If you are not online, go to your local library, they can help you.

I love seeing the pictures, I am not sure that I will do it.

Thanks, Joanna We have seen a snippet of what the weather is like

a the rain is moving south-east with it to see this weather front. If you

look at the squeeze on the ice baths, it is not just wet, it is

windy. The rain and the wind will continue to push towards the south

and east, clearing East Anglia and can plaster wall. Behind it, there

will be lots of cloud around. Some sunshine, especially in the shelter

of the hills, but all of the showers coming in, some of them merging, to

give longer spells of rain. Some will be wintry with height. That is

the scenario across Northern Ireland and Scotland. You could see sleet at

lower levels in Scotland. In the east, there will be brighter breaks,

even a bit of sunshine. The northern England, very similar, it will be

fairly cloudy with brighter breaks, a bit of sunshine and the same for

the Midlands into East Anglia, Essex and Kent, left with quite a lot of

cloud. Drifting across southern counties, lots of cloud with a few

brighter breaks. For Wales, you guessed it, similar again, lots of

cloud, brighter breaks. In the shelter of the hills we will cease

in China and showers. Mild conditions, particularly across the

South, as this front comes in it will turn much colder, as you can

see. Through the evening and overnight, the front is producing

the rain and shallots, it moves steadily southwards. It will be

colder than the night just gone. Across Scotland, northern England

and Northern Ireland, some whingeing is in the weather. We could see

sleet and snow. Further south, we are more likely to see the snow with

height, more likely to be sleet or rain at low levels. Tomorrow is

fairly unsettled, we have a combination of rain, sleet and snow,

maybe some hail as well. Still quite windy, brightness in between, but

feeling cold. Welcome to the programme. Coming up

before 11. A sharp rise in the number of homeless people sleeping

in recycling bins, says one waste company. And this dramatic footage

showing the moment a homeless man is nearly crushed to death by a bin

lorry. So you can see the driver as he

starts to lift the container, then it disappears from the view from the

front camera over the top of the cab. The other cameras, he's looking

into the hopper. As you can see, despite doing all the checks, there

was still someone in this container. We'll speak to Richard, who is

homeless, and who has slept in bins. Also on the programme, clashes

between police and migrants overnight in Calais. We'll be live

in the so-called Jungle camp, as French riot police move in to make

way for demolition workers. And, Justin Bieber drops in on the NHS

choir who beat him to the number one spot over Christmas. He has a

message for them. Keep making smashers. We'll speak to one member

of the choir who met him. Clash An operation has resumed to demolish

makeshift shelters at the so-called Bulldozers have moved

in to the camp, and riot police Last night there were clashes

between police and migrants One of the largest rubbish

collection companies has told this programme it's now finding three

people a week sleeping Hundreds of homeless people could be

putting themselves at risk of serious injury or death

by sleeping in large recycling bins. Scientists say they have

evidence for the first time that the mosquito-borne Zika virus

sweeping Latin America can cause a severe neurological disorder

which can paralyse and kill. Barclays Bank has announced a fall

in profits and a big shake-up in the company, which will see it

selling much of its business in Full-year profits, before tax,

dropped 2% to ?5.4 pounds. Dozens of people called police

in Scotland last night after a bright light

from a suspected meteor shower lit Residents reported seeing

a "fireball" in the sky and hearing violent bang just before

7 o'clock last night. Let's catch up with all the sport

now and join Chris Mitchell, and we're talking about the race

for the Premier League title. Spooky stuff in the Premier League

too. 11 games to go and Leicester could go five points clear tonight

if they beat West Brom but don't be fooled into thinking they are the

favourites for the title. They are, but the Leicester boss says, you

need to be looking at Tottenham if you want the leading title

contenders. I think Tottenham and Arsenal are very favourite. Even

though Arsenal lost? Yes, of course. They have the players who can do

everything. They can start and win every match. We know we can win, we

can lose, we can draw. It's not important the rest of the other

teams what they do. It's important how we play, how we fight on the

pitch. That's important.

Perhaps next season we might be talking about Brighton as potential

Premier League title contenders, they move to within a point of the

automatic promotion places in the Championship last night after they

beat Leeds 4-0. Leeds were awful. All four goals for Brighton coming

in the first half. Rio is on the horizon for sure, but

there are only five hundred days to go until the 2017 World

Championships in London at the Olympic Park. The sprint star Asher

Phillip hopes to be there, so too Richard Whitehead who still has the

great memories of winning there in 2012.

Just the noise was immense and when the athletes were announced in the

stadium, you just couldn't hear the actual names because it was so loud

and there was so many Union Jacks. I had to compose myself. Obviously, I

realised this was my one moment to shine in my whole career. Flashbacks

of how tough it had been training up to that point, all the obstacles

I've had the overcome to get on the track and get to the start line and

then blow the field away like I did in the 200 metres, that was

something that in my head I'd gone through thousands and thousands of

times, but to be able to deliver that on that day was very special

for myself, family and friends that were in the crowd as well. You won

on the same track as able-bodied. How important is it that in 2017

they are going to be within the same meeting, if you like, Paralympic

sport first then the able-bodied next. How much of a step forward is

that do you think? It's amazing they are putting the Championships close

together as it would be in Olympics because usually they separate them

and it goes in a wave of emotions for the crowd and, as much as

spectators, but the fact that it's going to be together, it will be

good for the sport. Everyone is going to be concentrated on

athletics this time. Usually it's spread out between different sports.

This one is going to shine a lot on athletics. The stadium is a

brilliant cauldron of opportunity for people to be involved, whether

you are a volunteer, spectator or athlete. I think it's really

important for the footprint of British sport to be part of

something that's the biggest opportunity for London since the

games. More from Richard and Asher

throughout the day and I'm back in half an hour.

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Hundreds of homeless people could be putting themselves at risk

of serious injury or death by sleeping in large recycling bins.

One of the largest rubbish collection companies,

Biffa, has told this programme it is now finding three people

The number has risen five fold in two years.

And in the last five years the bodies of at least 11 people

have been found in recycling depots after being crushed in refuse

The rise is being put down to an increase in the number

of rough sleepers and partly because shops are recycling more dry

waste like cardboard and plastic - making the bins more attractive

Lee says, I'm watching and feeling angry. Why are so many people on the

streets? Patricia says, why are the bins not locked by the shops. Ian

tweeted to say, it says a lot about our society that people has to sleep

in containers. Another texter said he saw a homeless man and a woman

said to him he shouldn't be there and was worth lest. He said he gets

that all the time and got set on fire in his sleeping bag one. What

is wrong with us, we are an ill species.

Here's a short recap of our reporter Jim Reed's film we played

This footage taken in shows how dangerous it can be. He

was very, very lucky. We managed to get him out. If you are not seen,

the driver compacts the waste and that's the worrying thing about

this. No matter how well we check our containers, there's absolutely

no guarantee that we are going to find everybody. In 2014, the body of

math rue Simons was discovered at a recycling plant in Bristol after

he'd been turned away from a homeless hostel. There have been ten

other similar deaths recorded in the last five years.

other similar deaths recorded in the Biffa is one of a number of waste

management companies that operates across the UK. In the year to the

end of March 20 #14rks they found 31 people in bins across their entire

fleet. A year later, that had increased to 93 and in the current

financial year that doesn't finish until the end of March, they've

already found more than 150. It comes at a time when the number

sleeping rough is rising sharply, the emergency hostel in Bristol is

full every night. George says he's been homeless since

he lost his job before Christmas. Drives now he can for rough sleepers

as part of the regular morning routine.

All these bins do have locks to stop people getting inside and maybe

injured. Companies can be fined or taken to court if they are not used.

Around half the bins we areth we found around the back of this

shopping centre were left completely open. Climb in there, put this lid

up, they'd be dry and warm. These shelters are all full now and

they've just got nowhere to go so this is where they are heading. The

Government says no-one should have to sleep rough and it's increasing

funding to tackle homelessness. We can speak now to Richard,

who's been sleeping rough for the last four years -

he doesn't want us to use his full name, Andrew Faris, a former

homeless person who now runs a soup kitchen for the homeless

and Dr Toni Gladding, from The Chartered Institution

of Wastes Management, which represents waste

management companies. Talk all for coming in. Richard,

first of all, you sleep in bins, don't you? I do. I just look for

office recycling so if they have excess paper or cardboard which they

have used, I just use that as like a mattress so I'm sleeping sound

rather than sleeping on the concrete which is grimy, dirty and just

stinks basically. I'm trying my best to look for a bed

and just seem to be like... I'm not going to give up. I'm going to tray

to succeed and hopefully one day in the near future... How long have you

been homeless? Coming up to four years now. What happened? Why did

you end up homeless? I got attacked in October 2010 and that person who

attacked me left me with brain damage for life. So it was like

thank you and yes, it was... There were times I was in hospital, I just

wanted to kill myself but I thought of my family, my friends and they've

pulled me through. Sorry, I'm filling up. They mean the

world to me and I just want to say thank you all so much for supporting

me. I've been in pain but thank you so much.

Richard, you've got a tough life though to the extent that you are

sleeping in bins and we were just seeing in our report how dangerous

that can be. Do you feel on a daily basis that there are great risks for

you out there? There are. It's like with the lorries coming to pick up

the bins to take to the scrapyard, to deposit. When that thing comes

down, the cutter or whatever it is, the cutter, you know. Let's talk to

Andrew. You know Andrew don't you from the soup kitchen? I do, yes.

Andrew, you see people like Richard. Are there many you are coming across

who're finding bins are better options than sleeping on the

streets? We find that some of the guys who attend the day centre, more

than anything just than a soup kitchen, we welcome them in, we sit

down with them, we ask them what problems they have, the majority

have housing problems and we find it's on the increase now because in

East London where we have a community care, in Central London

the people we meet near cam Ben, Leicester Square, the majority are

choosing to find a clean bin to sleep in because they are more

protective, if you like, they are a shell around them, nobody can kick

them around. Sometimes the police don't even see them which is a good

thing in one way because they could get woken up and moved own. It's

about protection from other people then? Yes and having that little

territory. Believe it or not, some of them are getting possessive now,

"this is my bin". I feel shocked in this day and age in 2016 we are

talking about people sleeping in bins. I don't know what the general

public's view is when they see somebody sleeping in a bin. We go

past them every day. Is that the point though, they are hidden from

people, they are not aware? People I think are quite aware in the

mornings when the guys have been woken up by the bin lorries and the

police and council. Yesterday a whole lot of police and council

workers went around Leicester Square and Covent Garden and Camden borough

and Westminster, that side of it, went round and moved them on, so you

don't see them yesterday, you didn't see many yesterday. We may start

serving food on the streets, we did that yesterday, but we didn't see so

many because they got moved on. That is the policy the councils adopt. I

think it's very kiss appointing. It's shocking.

The bin companies, we saw in and to reports, a shocking instance where

it was only a camera that picked up on the fact that somebody was in a

bin. Are they always checking as carefully as can be done? I think it

is now a well-known problem. Most companies will have a procedure in

place, they will look in the bins, knock on the bins, it is in a risk

assessment, but unfortunately incident still happen. It happened

several hundred times the year, actually, that people are in bins.

Normally they jump out when the truck arrives, but not always,

sometimes they get tipped, sometimes they entered in the heartland,

tragically, sometimes they die. -- sometimes they end up in the hopper.

We quoted figures from Biffa, in 11 bodies ending up in recycling depots

after being crushed. But the figures could be higher? Yes, it is simply

because they are recorded in different places. Sorry, they are

environmental service agency figures. Figures are recorded in

different places. Anecdotally, it could be between four and six people

a year that died from being tipped from bins. They only get into the

official figures if they end up at the recycling centres. If they are

discovered prior to that, they may not end up in figures. They are

reported somewhere but it is difficult to know the exact number

because they are reported in various places. Why aren't they just locked?

Bins are normally supplied with a lock, it is the customer that has to

ensure that the bin is locked. If they are using it several times a

day, it is probably a little inconvenient. The onus is on the

customer, really, to ensure that access is not easy. It is one of

those things that the waste industry is at the back-end of a problem that

they are trying to cope with. Should the companies be forced to lock

them, when people are dying because they can get into unlocked bins,

should there not be enforcement? The group sometimes people are found in

bins even if they are locked, they break and because it is a warm, dry

place. But often they are left unlocked. When a bin is sited in a

retail place, lots of people might be using it. They can fall between

one person and another, it is not ideal, they should be locking them.

Richard, Andrew was saying that people getting the bins to hide from

other people as much as anything, is that one of the reasons you do it?

No. How do you get treated on the streets by people who see you? I get

a lot of abuse. Oh, what are you looking at? Look at the state of

view. I am right, sorry, I got attacked almost six years ago now,

sorry I have brain damage forever, but I am doing the best that I can

to live my life as happy as I can. Like I say, it is people like Andrew

who wake me up in the morning, that is why I get up, so I can spend time

with my family, my is why I get up, so I can spend time

a typical day for you? Usually wake up... Whereabouts? Would that be on

the streets, or in a shelter? Most of the time, 80, 80 5% is waking up

in the lovely cold, of the time, 80, 80 5% is waking up

if I am in a bin. There might be the odd state where

if I am in a bin. There might be the see my mum at the shop and she would

say, oh, would you like to see my mum at the shop and she would

round tonight? She said she would love to, like, put me up but, sadly,

she can't, she only has a two bedroom flat and it is quite tiny. I

say, it's all right, mum, I will just live on the roof.

say, it's all right, mum, I will morning! It is fine, I don't want to

come around and invade morning! It is fine, I don't want to

area. That would be quite morning! It is fine, I don't want to

well. One person has tweeted to say, I wish Richard all the best in the

world, what a brave man. Another person has said

world, what a brave man. Another see the homeless,

world, what a brave man. Another issues. This is shockingly

world, what a brave man. Another are to blame, the Government needs

to do more. Leanne, and extremely moving item, more needs to be done

to help the homeless. Another Tweet, it is a national disgrace that we

should be involved it is a national disgrace that we

missions all over the world when our own people are homeless. Is this a

bit of a wake-up call, Andrew, talking about people sleeping in

bins? I like the idea 's and dimension of the Government cuts,

they just cut them again, to the local communities and councils. -- I

like the idea somebody mentioned. Charities do not benefit, we do not

get anything from any council, we do it as a donation. Our charity, we

have no except -- no expenses, no volunteers are paid anything, we do

it because we feel there is a need for someone like Richard to come in

and be helped, accommodation. We have asked the council 's time and

time again, they need to rethink how they will be help -- help with the

homeless projects. Every year we get increases in numbers. 3569 people

slept rough last year on the streets. Nearly 4000 people sleeping

rough on the streets. A lot of them are in central London, London in

particular, Westminster, Camden borough have a lot of homeless

people. It is a wake-up call. We would like the Government to come

forward, contacts and body like our charity, the homeless charities,

maybe have some kind of formula to solve these problems. We know we can

only do so much. We have no money to get accommodation for Richard. We

can only give him advice and clothing, food, hopefully a bit of

warmth from the time he comes in during the day. We play music, he

does drumming, you like drumming, don't you? To me, someone like

Richard coming in, to have a bit of time at the space we have, it is

like a community cafe. Come into your little home for a few hours,

enjoy the time that we have. We do not have the facilities otherwise.

You know something, we may be leaving our own space in Hackney and

in Camden Town echoes both have been redeveloped. We may not have a home

ourselves. We will appeal to people out there, if you have a building to

give to charity, please contact us. Maybe you guys can pass it onto us.

We are desperate the moment, in May, we have no home. We think we can

help a lot more people, homeless friends like Richard coming to us,

many more people can be helped. We only have limited resources. Andrew,

Toni, Richard, thank you all. Thank you for your comments.

We did want to speak to the Government about the number

of homeless people sleeping in bins but no-one was available.

In a statement, Homelessness Minister Marcus Jones told us.

No one should ever have to sleep rough, which is why we have

increased central funding to tackle homelessness over the next four

Still to come, Justin Bieber drops in on the NHS choir, who beat into

the top spot the Christmas charts. We will meet one member of the

choir, who was there. Demolition teams have moved back

into the migrant camp - known as the Jungle -

in Calais, to continue dismantling Yesterday violence broke out as some

of the workers were pelted with stones and overnight

there were running battles Lorries making their way

to the port were also attacked. This morning riot police marched

into the camp as bulldozers moved The French authorities want people

to move to shipping We can talk now to Joe Murphy

who is one of the founders of Good Chance Calais,

which is a theatre set up Tell us what is happening where you

are, what you can see? It is a very distressing scene today, again.

There are hundreds of police around, bulldozers which were promised by

the French Government not to be used. Groups of people standing

around fires, it is really windy today, it is not a day to lose a

home. It is a very distressing scene.

They are obviously trying to raise morale, what are you doing? We have

found that as times get more difficult, it becomes more popular

and there are people who treat it as a sanctuary, they come to create

theatre, to paint, to escape, basically, from this terrible

situation which, you know, is a situation that nobody wants. It is

clear that the French government don't want it, the refugees don't

want it, and all the refugees. It is bad news. What is the mood? I think

people are incredibly anxious about moving their homes, whatever we

think about this place that we call the Jungle, it provides some shelter

for all fleeing persecution. These are people who are the victims of

the news reports we have been watching about they should, all

around the world. -- about station. They are searching for century. We

have been unable to provide for them at the moment. -- they are searching

for sanctuary. It is a very troubling reality. Also as well as

in Calais, there are reports of trouble is that the Macedonian

border. It is happening all across Europe, it is a real problem. We

need to figure out how to deal with these people who are suffering so

much. The French authorities say there are alternatives, they have

the shipping containers and there are alternatives elsewhere in France

where they could go to be looked after? Of course. There is a

statistical problem going on, which I think will be very helpful to

clear up. There are 3500 people living in the southern section of

the Jungle, the area to be demolished. 300 or 400 places left

in the containers. In terms of the spaces around the rest of France,

there are not adequate numbers to move these people around. At the

moment, it is the job of the French Government to increase the possible

alternative accommodation for these people. Our particular interest, one

of the things we have been trying to make noise about, is children. There

are two injured 91 unaccompanied children, children at the age of ten

years old who have nobody. They have no mother or father here, no family

whatsoever. They are suffering in winter in this shantytown. It is a

disgrace. There is legislation for those children who have families in

the UK. That is their legal rights. There must be an expedited process

that allows them to obtain that legal right and offer them the

safety that those children, certainly, deserve. I think we can

all agree on that. Joe Murphy, thank you very much.

An operation has resumed to demolish makeshift shelters that the

so-called Jungle migrants Cabinet Calais. Bulldozers have moved in at

riot police are on stand-by. There were clashes last night between

police and migrants resisting. One of the largest refuse collection

companies, Fed, says it is finding many homeless people sleeping in its

containers. Hundreds of homeless people could be putting themselves

at risk of injury or death by sleeping a large recycling bins.

Scientists say they have evidence for the first time that the mosquito

borne Zika virus sweeping Latin America could also trigger a severe

neurological disorder called Guilon Barre syndrome, that can lead to

paralysis. Barclays has announced plans to wind

down its operations in Africa after more than a century. Reporting a 2%

fall in full-year pre-tax profit, the bank unveiled plans to simplify

its UK and international operations. And a suspected meteor shower later

much of the early evening sky across Scotland last night. Any people

reported seeing a fireball in the sky and hearing violent bangs just

before 7pm. Here is the sport with Chris.

Maybe Claudio Ranieri is starting to feel the pressure with the mind

games he's playing. Ranieri, he says his side are still

not favourites to win the title! He says Tottenham who're two points

behind in second are the leading contenders. Good fun all that.

Arsenal though not having good fun there. The England winger Alex

Oxlade-Chamberlain will be out for up to eight weeks. He got the knee

injury in that Champions League defeat to Barcelona. Big blow for

England and Arsenal. With just 500 days to go until the 2017 world

athletics Championships in London, Asher Phillip and the Paralympic

champion Richard Whitehead, said this could be a special time for

London and athletics. It will be amazing that able-bodied and

Paralympic events will be held so close together and not separated.

That's it for now. The Prime Minister David Cameron's

warned his EU deal might not be legally binding. Our political guru

Norman Smith can tell us more. How strong are the doubts, Norman?

Joanna, today we have heard from the man who was one of those sitting on

the other side from Mr Cameron when he was negotiating that marathon EU

deal the other week from a chap called Lord Hill. So he's a Brit but

he's a European commissioner, so he was, if you like, arguing for the EU

against David Cameron trying to get a deal. Of course we have heard from

the Prime Minister over the last few days ability how he regards things.

-- about how he regards things. Lord Hill struck a different tone

than the Prime Minister. He was asked, so David Cameron got this

deal, when is it going to be written into EU treaties and legally

binding. Lord Hill said, well actually we haven't even started

talking about that and he was asked well have you any idea when it might

be a new treaty and he said no, we haven't begun the process, so in

other words that looks like it's years and years away. He was asked

about the specific protection Mr Cameron thinks he's got to protect

basically the City from being bossed around by the eurozone club. Under

the agreement, Mr Cameron says he's got the power basically to force the

other EU countries to listen to Britain's concerns. It became clear

in the hearing that actually, all Mr Cameron could do is ask them if they

wouldn't mind listening to Britain's concerns and then they have a vote

to decide whether they're prepared to listen to Mr Cameron's concerns.

In other words, they could allow it, but there is no reason they have to

allow it. So, you know, there were some pretty serious question marks

raised about the deal. Interesting though, Lord Hill who obviously now

sits on the other side of the table took the view that actually, despite

all the grumbling and groaning about the EU, Britain was in many ways

setting the agenda. Just have aliketh listen to what he said.

Often Britain is complaining about things in Europe. They say to me,

hang on, you have got the single market, free trade, we've got an

agenda on better regulation and we all speak English. I mean, this is

what has happened over the last 25 years.

We also actually heard today from another commissioner or former

commissioner, Peter Mandelson, famous of course during the Blair

years as one of the fervent campaigners to keep us in the EU,

and he was trying to boss the argument of the Brexit come pain

that if we leave we'll be able to negotiate a fine and dandy deal with

the EU. He said forget about it, he said if we wanted to negotiate a

deal, we'd have to sign up to their rules on free movement, in other

words still allow the migrants to come in and still not be able to do

anything about it. And if we didn't agree to that, we may have to face

tariffs to be allowed to trade with the rest of Europe. So, he was

questioning the argument of Brexit campaigners that we can be sure of

getting a good deal with the EU once we'd left. Talking of migration, one

of the stories in the heedlines is what is going on in Calais with the

dismantling of the Jungle camp. People who want to come over here.

What is the Government's perspective on what is hatching there right now?

-- happening there right now. The view of the British Government

is actually, the French are on the right track, one Downing Street

figure described it to me as a positive step. The reason Number Ten

views the clearing of the jungle or parts of the jungle as a positive

step is two fold. One is, they take the view that there is a sanitation

issue, if you like, a basic quality of life issue in the jungle. The

alternative they think is much better in the new containers. The

real reason is, when the migrants move to this new camp, they are

being fingerprinted by the French authorities which means, if they

apply for asylum, the first country where they'll be documented as

having arrived in will be France, not the UK. In other words, it will,

if you like, remove their ability to claim asylum if they manage to make

it to Britain. In other words, the British Government view is the

French are in effect ensuring that the people gathered in Calais, if

they move to the new camp and if they are fingerprinted, they cannot

legally come to Britain. So the British Government view is, this is

all good news. Thank you, Norman.

Remember the last Christmas number one?

Yes, the NHS Choir beat Justin Bieber to the top spot -

but not without some help from the singer himself who tweeted

asking his fans to buy the charity single and get it to the top

of the charts despite his own single being in the race.

The American star made a surprise visit to meet the singing health

workers - and congratulate them on their success.

My hand has been left hanging, honey!

And Katie Rogerson, who is a member of the choir,

What did you think when Justin Bieber walked through the door? I

was one of the few members of the choir who actually knew who we were

meeting and it was still pretty weird because, you know, that

flairty of someone you have seen a lot, but the rest of the choir had

no idea -- Flaherty. There was an audible kind of shock that went

through the room in a good way -- familiarity. What was he like?

Really quite sweet. I think even if you are that famous it must be

intimidating coming into a bunch of people staring at you like weirdos

and he ran around and high-fived everyone, chatted to everyone and

said congratulations as we obviously did back. He seemed like quite a

nice, sweet celebrity. So have you all been touched by the

way he's handled everything because him saying to his fans, support the

choir, it's fine for me not to be number one for one week, do the

right thing, and then, you know, taking the time out to come and meet

you all? Exactly. I mean, he was fabulous. He was just a really good

sport. It made it really Christmassy, then to come on and

meet us, I think we were, his only other engagement over here really

other than the Brits, he's been a really good sport about the whole

thing and, you know, one of our aims originally with the whole song and

everything was the raise the morale, boost everyone in the NHS, say thank

you to the heroes of the NHS that are throughout the country in the

NHS. He continued that for us by kind of turning up and saying hello

to us. He was lovely. Does he help? The fact that he's effectively

endorsing what you do, does that help beyond what he's done already

and what you've done already? Yes. I think he's giving some weight behind

everything and, in terms of just as a story, I think he's made us an

international story, whereas maybe we'd meet obviously the NHS,

everyone cares about it in the UK, but not such in Chile or Canada or

America, and he's kind of carried on and given us a bit of weight. He's

just, you know, put a really lovely twist on it. It continues the

feel-good factor that we were going forward with with the song in the

first place so yes, he's been great. Did he say much? Did you get a sense

that he really does know what you are doing and that's something that

he's been interested in? It was quite a rushed meeting. We didn't

speak in-depth about the NHS or the choir a lot. He encouraged us to

make more hits and he was charming in that sense. We know he's a

national health care supporter. Previously he's released statements

to that effect. He was quite pressured in London so I don't think

he'd call me his best friend or anything like that, but it was good

fun. Are you all Bieber-believers now?

Definitely. I thought it was... I think you know, as an older woman,

older than Justin, I hadn't really listened to his music before, I

didn't know a great deal about him. Actually, I really like his music

I've discovered and he's been really sweet along the way, so I'm an Emma

Bieber and he's an NHS Bieber. I'm older than you and I'm a fan too!

Thank you. Lots of you getting in touch with the story we have been

reporting on, homeless people sleeping in bins. We have had lots

of you getting in touch, particularly after the conversation

with Richard who joined us telling us he sleeps in bins. Chris e-mailed

to say, it's disgusting that our own are sleeping in bins with mental

health issues when we are letting more foreign nationals in. Sally

said it's a disgrace that the world's sixth richest country cannot

care for homeless but of course 350 million pounds per week is give

tonne the EU. Steve Tweeted to say it's terrible that people are

sleeping in bins. Do keep your comments coming into

us. Thank you very much for all of your contributions so far to our

discussions. We have been reporting that a

suspected meteor shower lit up much of the early evening sky across

Scotland last night. Many reported seeing a fireball in the sky and

hearing a violent bang just before 7 o'clock. Ross Stuart was an

eyewitness. We can speak to him now. Hi, Ross, what did you see and hear?

I was on the way back from the helicopter from the North Sea oil

platform at the time. When it happened about 6. 50, I thought we

were about to hit lightning, the sky lit up with a flashy bang then it

all went quiet again. It was only when I landed and I saw the eruption

on social media -- media that it was something more than lightning. How

noisy was it? Helicopters are noisy anyway, so I didn't hear much. How

long did it go on for? The sky was starting to light up, two seconds

before the initial flash, then there was another flash, then a couple of

small flashes then it was gone. Two or three seconds, not long. What

were you thinking when it was happening? You didn't obviously know

what it was it was? I was hoping it was not lightning. Was it quite

special to see because it's pretty unusual to see something like that?

It was, yes. We got a pretty good view of it because it looked like it

was happening right over our heads. Thank you very much, Ross, thank you

for telling us about that meteor shower and lots of people obviously

were talking about it on social media. It was a mystery at first to

what it was. Survivors of child sexual abuse say they are extremely

unlikely to get justice in the courts and they are calling for a

Royal Commission to be established to work out whether the current

criminal justice system is fit for purpose.

The people's tribunal was set up in 2014 and has heard evidence from 20

people who were sexually abused as children. One regular theme was the

difficulties people experienced in reporting what's happened to them to

the authorities. Cheryl is one of the survivors of the People's

Tribunal. She says she was raped several times in care and she's

waived her right to anonymity to speak to us this morning. Also, Alan

Collins, a legal adviser to the tribunal from Hugh James solicitors.

Tell us first of all quickly Alan why this was set up because it's got

no legal standing and no criminal cases will arrive from it? 15-16

months ago, there was a lot of debate in the media about the

Government's proposed inquiry which is now happening, so that's fine,

that's good. But at the time, it looked as though there was going to

be a struggle to get the inquiry under way and many survivors were

saying, is this inquiry going to happen, is there a lot of

frustration and concern, so a group of them came together and said we'll

hold our own inquiry, do our own investigation, so instead of

something coming from top-down, the grass roots said, let's do it

ourselves and they've done it. They have commissioned their own

investigation, obtained their own report into the issues and here we

are today. The grass roots have produced their own inquiry and their

Cheryl, tell us about you, why you own report.

Cheryl, tell us about you, why you wanted to get involved with this

tribunal? It is fair to say, is it, that your life has been defined by

what you say happened in a care home since you were 14? Yes, definitely.

Once you have been in care, you are treated differently, like you are

below normal. Authorities... I have been involved with authorities all

my adult life, which I can't go into here, but every person in authority

I have met over the last 25 years, I have told them what happened when I

was in care and they were like, that doesn't matter, that doesn't matter.

I have told the police, been to the police three times, they take my

statement and evidence and don't come back. It is like... Why do we

not matter? It is not historical, it has never been dealt with. I am

hearing the same stories over and over and over again. The issue for

you was not that you were not telling people, you were? They

didn't want to know, didn't want to help us. I was doing activism online

and trying to research what was happening, I am finding more and

more people with similar stories to me. For such a long time I thought

it was just me, my face didn't fit, and I am finding hundreds and

hundreds more with similar stories, nobody has wanted to help them. We

haven't chosen to be abused. The help should be there for us. Tell us

what happened to you? Nobody has ever been arrested over what you say

happened to you. We are not naming the care home, it has closed down

anyway, but just talk is through what you say you experienced in the

care home? The first care home I was in was like a prison, I was 15, I

was put in care because my mum didn't want to me. I hadn't done

anything wrong. It says in my notes I wasn't reprobate enough for the

care system. We were locked in 24 hours a day, weren't allowed out

whatsoever. Just before my 16th birthday I was raped by a male in

the building. It just broke me, it broke me. I went to another home, in

the other home we were encouraged to drink alcohol. After being locked in

for so long... Encourage? The staff and courage is to drink alcohol,

tour goes to parties. I came back from one of the parties and I was

like... You have got to imagine, the months before I had been locked up

like a prison, if you will, then I went to visit the home when

everything was open, I was encouraged to drink alcohol, I was

not used to things like that. I came home from one of these parties drunk

and I was gang raped off a load of local lads. It took me over 25 years

to get any sort of paperwork and it is only that thick from when I was

in care, it states in the paperwork I went to the police and told them

what had happened, the police rang the care home and said, she is

making up stories. It beggars belief. I was a child. Where was my

protection? This care system is supposed to protect children, where

was mine? Nobody can say it has changed, you have got rather run,

Rochdale, it is the care kids again. -- you have got Rotherham, Rochdale.

If it is to look after the children, why are we not being taken care?

Alan, you explained why the People's Tribunal was set up, how many people

came forward saying they had not been listened to? A wide spectrum,

and many had this complaint that they had said something, either at

the time all afterwards, and for one reason or another it was not taken

seriously. Some of the victims, the survivors, they were taken seriously

and there were police investigations, some resulting in

successful prosecutions. But there were others who would strike a chime

with Cheryl, something was known at the time, but for whatever reason it

was not dealt with. That is a sort of re-occurring theme over the

years, and that was one of the patterns that the panel that was

assessing the evidence identified. It was a weird caring theme that a

lot of these survivors had the same issue -- it was a wee occurring

theme. Cheryl, you said, where was the help for you? What impact did

feeling you were not listened to have? I ran away from care after the

gang rape at 17, I could not face being there any more. I ended up

living rough on the streets for about a year. That is in my notes as

well, I went to social services and said, I am living rough, I was still

a child under their responsibility, they were giving me phone numbers,

never offered me help, support, nothing. For a long, long time I

believe that I deserved it, I must have otherwise start -- otherwise

nor why did nobody help me? I ended up going into relationships where I

was abused badly. It has affected every single thing of my life. The

lack of support you get, you can't get any mental health support, it is

only two years ago I owe sugar -- I was diagnosed with mental health

issues. You go back on my site which excites Twitter gets ago, nobody

said, you might be suffering from mental health issues. It has

affected everything. My children have been removed from me twice,

everything. I can't have a nation ship. I just can't trust anybody to

be with. How has the People's Tribunal affected you? The People's

Tribunal has turned my life around. To go from what I was two years ago

to now... There is no way I would be sat in front of this camera two

years ago. What has done that? Helping other people, by helping

other people... It has given me a sense of purpose. By helping other

people it has helped me get back on the road that I should have been put

on at 17, I am on the road to healing myself. It is knowing that I

wasn't the only one, there is a lost ball. It was not just directed at

me, it was not personal. There are bad people in the world. Alan', the

People's Tribunal has given people who say they were victims of abuse

and opportunity to come forward and speak in an environment which is not

an tag in a stick, not convert it like the criminal justice system --

not antagonistic. How different is that? Very different, it is

illuminating because it highlights a very profound question, which is

does our justice system actually meet in the 21st-century the demands

created by survivors coming forward? In the People's Tribunal

environment, people are not necessarily being judged, or felt

they were being judged, it was not adversarial or convert it. People, I

think, were a bit more relaxed than they would normally be and had the

time to explain their stories in their own way. Can you see that that

could translate in a real, meaningful way into the criminal

justice system? In the criminal justice system, when justice needs

to be done for everybody, every aspect needs to be rigorously

scrutinised? Indeed. What I would say is that there is possibly

something to be learned from this experience. Maybe our justice system

can be improved or developed in some way to take into account... Maybe

there is another way of looking at things, maybe another way of

approaching these issues. That is very important. It is a legitimate

question. The panel on the tribunal, and in my own experience, you see

cases sometimes weather survivors have gone through the criminal

justice process and there has been a successful prosecution and the

abuser has gone to prison or whatever, fine, that is very

important, but it has not necessarily been a cathartic

experience for the survivor. They are left to pick up the pieces.

Interesting, so you think this is more cathartic than seeing simply

held to account? Possibly, we need to learn a lot more from survivors

and their experiences. In my opinion, there is a lot to learn.

This People's Tribunal experience, in my opinion, demonstrates, yes, we

still have a lots to learn, and if we are going to improve and try to

learn from the past then this is something that can be looked at and

thought about, but that is one of the recommendations that the panel

has come up with, that a lot more needs to be done if we are to

improve our lot as a society. Cheryl and Alan, thank you very much.

This morning we have reporting about the number of homeless people in

waste bins and the outcome being fatal. In the last five years the

bodies of the least 11 people have been found in recycling depots after

being crushed and refuse lorries. A little early I spoke to Richard, who

is homeless and has let in bins, lots of you have been moved by what

he told us, so we wanted to play some of his interview again.

I... Just look for office recycling, so if they have excess paper or

cardboard which they have used I just use that as a mattress, so I am

sleeping sounder than sleeping on the lovely concrete, which is a bit

grainy, dirty and just stinks, basically. I am trying my best to

look for a bed, and I just seem to be, like... I'm not going to give

up, I'm going to keep trying until I succeed, and hopefully one day in

the near future... I call it the Kennedy Palace. How long have you

been homeless, Richard? Only... Coming up to four years now. What

happened? Why did you end up like that? I got attacked in October

2010, that person who attacked me left me with brain damage for life,

so thank you. And... There were times when I was in hospital but I

just wanted to kill myself. But I thought of my family, my friends,

and they have pulled me through it. My eyes are filling up. Of course.

They mean the world to me. I just want to say thank you also much for

supporting me. I know I have been a pain, but thank you so much. You can

see Richard on the programme page, and also Jim's full report. Richard

has been attached to say I am in tears watching, it is completely

heartbreaking to see what can happen to people. Thank you so much for

your company today, thank you for your comments. Back again the

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