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showers. Things settle down on Thursday. Some wintry showers in the

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east but largely dry with some sunshine, feeling a bit nippy.

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I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria.

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Welcome to the programme if you've just

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Hospital workers have been telling us about the impact it's having:

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On top of my ordinary shifts, I have worked extra shifts. That, I was so

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exhausted that at all actually giving up the profession.

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Lots of you are getting in touch with your experience.

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Jay on Twitter says the goodwill that oiled NHS

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to keep going has gone due to continual change and low morale.

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no-one wants to be a part of a system that is being

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Also on the programme - what impact can growing up

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with an alcoholic parent have on children?

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We'll talk to one 27-year-old whose father has recently died

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And Jane's already brought you all the winners and losers

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from this year's Oscars - before 11, we'll focus on diversity

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and hear how host Chris Rock poked fun at the oscars-so-white

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I am here at the Academy Awards are otherwise known as the white

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people'schoice awards. An Oscar at last for Leonardo

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DiCaprio. The 41-year-old won best actor for his survivor role in The

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Revenant. He used his speech to call for action on climate change.

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Thank you for this amazing award tonight.

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Let us not take this planet for granted.

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I do not take tonight for granted, thank you so much.

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The NHS is struggling with a shortage of doctors and nurses in

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much of the country. A BBC investigation has given a snapshot

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revealing that trusts in England, Wales and Northern Ireland are

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actively recruiting abroad as they try to fill thousands of vacant

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posts. This is impacting massively. We have wrote a gap throughout the

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country in emergency medicine, and we are struggling to recruit doctors

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to emergency medicine. A warning of tough times ahead for shop workers.

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Almost one in three, or 900,000, could lose their jobs in the next

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ten years, according to the British Retail Consortium. The squeeze will

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be caused by more online shopping, higher taxes and the national living

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wage, they predict. The Raspberry Pi has become the most

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popular British computer ever made. British astronaut Tim Peake took one

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into space, and total sales are now expected to top 8 million. The new

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model has been unveiled with a faster processor, built-in wi-fi and

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Bluetooth. Customers in the UK will soon be

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able to buy fresh and frozen food online from Amazon. The retailer has

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signed a deal with the Morrisons supermarket chain to provide the new

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service, which is expected to begin later this year.

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And the German Chancellor Angela Merkel says Greece could plunge into

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chaos if neighbouring countries keep their borders closed the migrants.

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Austria has led a group of central European states who have put up

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fences, stranding migrants on the Greek side of the border.

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Let's catch up with all the sport now. Never mind the Oscars,

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Manchester City won football's first major award of the season. And there

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was a pretty Oscar-winning performance from Louis Van Gaal? We

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will be talking about that. The League Cup is not top of clubs'

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priorities at the start of the season, especially those of the

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stature of Manchester City, but it was a great final at Wembley

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yesterday, 1-1 at the end of extra time. It went to penalties. City

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made one change to their starting line-up, bringing back that up

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keeper, Willy Caballero. He let in five against Chelsea in the FA Cup

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last week, so there was some speculation that Manuel Pellegrini

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might draft Joe Hart, England's number one, back into the team. But

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the City manager said he had to keep his word because it would not have

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been right to drop him. The Argentinian paid him back and some

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in the shoot out, with three penalty saves to clinch the first silverware

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of the season. Yaya Toure scored the winning penalty, but the hero of the

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hour was Bolero, to give City a fourth League Cup title. Very happy

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for Willy Caballero. He deserved his moment. Personally, about my

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decision, I prefer to use the title than to lose my words and lose a

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chance for Willie not to play. What a weekend we had in the Premier

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League. Leicester went five points clear at the top of the table on

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Saturday, so Arsenal and Spurs were playing catch up yesterday. Arsenal

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slipped up at Manchester United, losing 3-2. What a few days it has

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been for Marcus Rushford. We talked about his debut last week on this

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programme, scoring twice in the Europa League on Thursday. Yesterday

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was his Premier League debut and he followed up with another two goals.

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The 18-year-old brought the feel-good factor back to Old

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Trafford. This almost got the biggest cheer of the day, Louis Van

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Gaal claiming that Arsenal players were diving. And just in case the

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didn't understand, he did that. The crowd loved it. Mike Dean didn't

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even raise a smile. But whenever Louis Van Gaal's reign ends, that

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will be a defining image. Can we see it again? I cannot see that enough.

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I have been told we can't. It is all over the internet. A lot of people

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are having a lot of fun with this over the last 24 hours. Various

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spoofs, those means across social media. Look at this one. In the

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spread addition, this is him doing his Leonardo DiCaprio impression in

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The Revenant, the opening scene with the bare. Here he is, crowd surfing.

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Or what about having fun on a slide? There are a lot of them that we

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couldn't show you at this time of the morning. Remember the picture of

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a Manchester night out that went viral before Christmas choir --?

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Those are brilliant. He was lamenting the fact that normally, he

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gets criticised for just sitting on the bench, and he has gone to

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another extreme now. It is a complete turnabout. Everybody loves

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him, for now. Until they lose their next match, perhaps. At 10.02, I

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will show him falling over once more. Nothing much to talk about

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apart from the football at White Hart Lane yesterday. Just a very

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important to-1 win for Spurs against Swansea City. They went three points

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above Arsenal in the table, two points behind leaders Leicester.

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They came from behind as well, Danny Rose with the winner inside the last

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15 minutes. A great day for Spurs fans, with the gunners losing as

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well, but no title talk from the manager yet. For me, Arab opponent

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is not important. Our performance is more important -- our opponent is

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not important to me. We have a lot of games ahead, 11th Premier League

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games -- 11 Premier League games. It is important to focus. That is about

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it. I can see people scrubbing away, getting that LVG picture ready for

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you at 10.30. If I haven't got it for you, I am going to fall over

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myself! That would be better! See you later.

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Thank you for joining us this morning, welcome to the programme

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if you've just joined us, we're on BBC Two

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and the BBC News Channel until 11 this morning.

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Over the next hour, we'll keep you up to date with the latest

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Lots of you getting in touch with your experience of the NHS

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facing a shortage of qualified staff.

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We were speaking to three NHS workers earlier, and you have been

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getting in touch. Julie says, I was in A on Friday morning and again

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last night with my 14-year-old. Staff were overworked and

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understaffed. I fear the number of hours staff are working and the

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mistakes that are being made. John says, I am a nurse in the south of

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England, very experienced in acute and community settings. I was forced

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to retire after 31 years in the service at the front line, due to

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whistle-blowing over bad and unsafe practice. My son is a junior doctor,

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and considering leaving to go into research if the new contract is

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imposed. He works in A Keep your thoughts coming in.

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You can get in touch in the usual ways -

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If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

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Wherever you are, you can watch our programme online

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via the BBC news app or our website, bbc.co.uk/victoria.

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What impact can growing up with an alcoholic parent

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The National Association for Children of Alcoholics say

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there are 2.6 million children living with an alcoholic parent -

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but local authorities don't have a plan for dealing with them.

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Radio 1's Newsbeat is running a special programme looking

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We can speak now to Charlotte Hayman, who's 27 and from Cambridge.

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Her father Ian died in December after losing his fight

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You have decided to speak, because you feel that children of alcoholic

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parents need more help. Tell us your experience? I first realised about

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my dad's struggle in my early teens. It all came to a head when I was at

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university at about 17. Other than my family, my sister and my mum and

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a few close friends, I didn't have anyone to talk to about it. And I

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didn't know what I could do. And there are all of these feelings that

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you have, and you don't know how to process it. It's a very taboo

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disease, and it is not common close to talk out about it. It leads to

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embarrassing situations. So when you say there were few people to talk

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to, would you have wanted to, or did you want to keep it hidden? It was

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tricky, because perhaps the schools would have been willing to talk, but

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then I didn't want to embarrass my dad that way. You don't want to open

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yourself up to that judgment. People either laugh off alcoholism or

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think, they have a perception of an alcoholic person that is not

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necessarily true. Then there were groups that my mum went to the

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partners or families of struggling alcoholics. Again, as a teenager,

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that is not necessarily what you want. As a child, you do not want to

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chat with grown-ups about this sort of thing. Without my friends and

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sister, I would have struggled massively to deal with it. I think

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it is good to talk about these things and help work it out and

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realise it is not your fault and there is not much you can do to

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help, or find out ways you can help. When you work it out, tell us how

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you worked out what was going on. What were the first things you

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started to see and you had to piece together what was going on? We would

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soar to find a glass of wine in the morning, but it would be stashed

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down the side of the sofa, rather than openly in the kitchen, like, I

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had a drink last night. It began to be hidden. Then you would clean the

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house and find bottles of wine behind the sofa and things like

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that. When dad came out and said he was struggling and perhaps he should

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stop drinking, that was when it became very hidden. If you ever did

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find wine, you would be stuck behind a rock -- between a rock and a

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helpless, not knowing whether tell my mum or keep his secret and help

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them hide it. Must have been confusing for a child. It is really

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the goal. All of a sudden, you are stuck between your parents. -- it is

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really difficult. My mum loved him so much that she got frustrated with

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him. If he was jinking, there might be an argument, because she herself

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did not know how to help him -- if he was drinking. And we are not

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going to stand a chance if adults don't know how to deal with it. As a

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child, you have no clue where to go or who to talk to. What was your

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relationship like with him? It was really good. He was a great dad. And

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then he completely changed. It was very gradual. I was a proper daddy's

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girl, so I was very close with him. Then in my 20s, that diminished and

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I distanced myself from him more and more, because it became more and

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more difficult. And to know that he was hiding this from so many people

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and to either have to help him lie or to be the person to break my

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mum's hard again and his family's hard again by telling them that he

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was still drinking. The way you talk, it is like you lost your

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father a long time before he sadly died. It felt that way. I would

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often say to Kirsty, my sister, that he is a completely different person

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now. It is almost like now he has died, we are allowed to grieve for

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someone that we lost so long ago. That is what it feels like. Why does

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it feel like you can grieve now when you could before? Because he was

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still alive before, and it was about whether to help him and how to help

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him and whether he was going to be open to kick this disease and

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whether we would get him back. Whereas now, he is lost. I would say

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I lost my dad in my early teens, because he was not that man any

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more. There might have been glimpses of him, but he changed so much that

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now, I feel like there was so much anger before. It is difficult to

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explain. But there is so much anger for why he can't choose you over the

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alcohol. But when he became ill, that diminished. I felt like for

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him, we had to be strong. We all wanted to be there and we put it all

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aside. We were at the hospital. It completely changed. It was really

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difficult for my boyfriend particularly to understand, because

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he has only ever known the alcoholic dad, and me not really wanting to

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talk to him. And then suddenly, I was going to the hospital every day

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and really sad about it, because I allowed those feelings to come.

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Tell us more about the impact on a child. You felt he was choosing

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alcohol over you and your sister and your mum. It is not as

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straightforward as that, but that is the viewpoint of a child. How does

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that impact on your self esteem and everything else? It is crazy because

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as much as you tell yourself it is a disease, it feels like a choice and

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you constantly questioning why and you constantly question whether

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there is something you could be doing to help and constantly

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question whether you are doing the right thing to help and whether...

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You are constantly questioning yourself and questioning your role

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and what you can do and wondering, always wondering, what you will be

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coming home to. Children and teenagers should not have those

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worries. It should be what to wear to school and things like that. You

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ended up not doing very much housework and things to help out

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because you don't want to find any evidence, any alcohol, anything in

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the house to implicate him because you didn't want to be in that

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position again. It takes a confidence knock and it means you

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are always wondering what people think of your parents and think of

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you and you are always worried people will find out because it is

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so taboo that you do not want people to know. We gave the features of how

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many children have alcoholic parents. That surprised me. What

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would you say? Can you say anything from your experiences that would be

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helpful to others in the same situation? Just go and talk to

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someone, a friend or the other parent if they are not suffering or

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chat to a GP, just talking really helps me with it because it helps

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you realise a lot of thoughts and feelings you are having. It helps

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the process the whole thing and talking to people makes you realise

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you are not alone because it is not openly discussed, you eat feed like

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you are struggling alone. The figures are there, there are so many

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people and you have two feel like you are not alone and you are not

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going to follow in the footsteps of your parents, that you can break

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this and you can grow up to not be them, to be a normal adult. It is so

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recently that he died, it was just before Christmas, how do you

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remember him? Do you remember the dad of one you were very young or is

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it still too recent for that? It varies from day to day, which is

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bizarre, because you do not know what you are going to wake up

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feeling. Sometimes I will have a dream about my old dad and I will be

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filled with really warm memories and really nice things and sometimes you

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think more about the alcoholic side think more about the alcoholic side

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or I Will smell stale beer and it or I Will smell stale beer and it

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will bring back those horrible memories and it is a whole mixed bag

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of emotions. You do not know on a daily basis and I am trying to take

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it one day at a time, process each of those feelings as they come up,

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because usually when you grieve it is talking about the nice memories

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and things, but as a whole we need to look at him as a whole and all of

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that and get past the alcoholic side and get past the anger that I am

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feeling so I can get down to the nice memories and the real happy

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childhood that Kirsty and I had. I mentioned that the beginning you

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were talking about it is because you want other children in the same

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position to get more help. Have you had much help? Not so much. I am

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getting more now with him passing. I have reached out to my GP and I am

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going forward with mental health care. When I was younger, I didn't

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know who to talk to. I did not know, I did not think about it, I did not

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know that I could get help. You almost feel silly for going forward

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and saying this is happening to my dad, but it is massively affecting

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me, but of course it is. It is just a case of making people aware that

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they are not alone and they do not have to go through this on their

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own. They can put their hand up and say this is happening. It is a

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little bit embarrassing, but we can't get through it. Thank you,

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thank you very much Charlotte. And you can find out more

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about the impact of alcoholism on children - including

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help and support - at Newsbeat's website -

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and in special programmes at 1245 The RSPCA is rethinking the way it

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pursues prosecutions for animal cruelty with a greater emphasis on

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pet owners. It follows a story with rocket last year on how prosecutions

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by the RSPCA could be curbed. We will bring you the details.

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Public beheadings, floggings and bombs reducing the city to rubble.

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This is the daily reality inside the serene see it described as the

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Islamic State capital. IS took over Raqqa in north eastern

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Syria about two years ago. Now they run the city and patrol

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every aspect of daily life. But that doesn't mean all the city's

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current residents support the group. Those who don't, have to try not

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to be noticed and attempt to survive both the constant bombings

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from Russian and US-led forces Rules like no swearing in public -

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that could get you forty lashes, whilst talking to a foreigner

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could mean death by beheading. Getting information out

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of Raqqa is difficult - since IS took over, the BBC hasn't

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been able to send one of its reporters to the city

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because it is too dangerous. But some of the people living

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there want to speak out One resident of Raqqa has been

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keeping a diary for Radio 4's Today programme, giving us a rare insight

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into what everyday life This is the day we used to gather

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in the street after prayers and have Anyone gathering in public

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without permission now risks being accused of

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plotting against Daesh. I am passing a crowd

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in a public square. I don't want to join them

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because they may have been told to watch a beheading,

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but thank God, it His offence, I'm told,

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was committing a homosexual act. Tomorrow I go back to work,

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a new week, with new hopes But I want to tell you

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about when Islamic State On Mother's Day,

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a cold winter morning, My brothers and sisters and I had

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planned a small party. As my taxi neared, clouds

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of smoke filled the air. The regime's warplanes

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had hit our street. People were running around,

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carrying the dead and the injured. One of my neighbours told me

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that my parents were hurt and had When we arrived there,

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the smell of blood and death They asked us to look at the bodies

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laid out in front of us to see His body was covered

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in shrapnel wounds. A voice said quietly,

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"Don't go in yet". Two hours passed

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and finally a doctor "I have managed to save her life

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but she is very ill", he said. A neighbour of ours,

:26:00.:26:06.

who has a fruit and vegetable shop, "From now on", he said,

:26:07.:26:09.

"You can work for me." A few weeks later, I was working

:26:10.:26:14.

in the shop when I heard gunfire and the boom of heavy

:26:15.:26:20.

weapons outside. My friend grabbed my arm and said,

:26:21.:26:24.

"Daesh have taken over the city". Soon after that, a man

:26:25.:26:28.

I had never seen before shouted at me, "Hey, you,

:26:29.:26:31.

smoking is not allowed". Another cried, "Hey, you,

:26:32.:26:36.

why is your wife not wearing a veil? I heard loudspeakers

:26:37.:26:41.

in the streets saying some people were

:26:42.:26:45.

about to be executed. A group of blindfolded young

:26:46.:26:48.

men stood in handcuffs. In front of them, a masked

:26:49.:26:51.

man began reading. "Hassan, fighting

:26:52.:26:54.

with regime forces. Reza was a media activist,

:26:55.:26:57.

accused of speaking A man with a sword carried

:26:58.:27:01.

out the punishment. As I walked down

:27:02.:27:11.

the road cursing out loud, a group of Daesh's religious

:27:12.:27:13.

police rushed over and grabbed me. I tried to reason with

:27:14.:27:17.

them but it was no use. "You were cursing out loud.

:27:18.:27:23.

Your punishment is 40 lashes". And every day this week we'll bring

:27:24.:27:31.

you another instalment of his diary. Mike Thomson is a correspondent

:27:32.:27:35.

with Radio 4's Today programme and he helped this

:27:36.:27:37.

man tell his story. Extraordinary to hear his words.

:27:38.:27:49.

What can you tell us about the diarist? They were collated over a

:27:50.:27:55.

period of months, it took quite some time to put them together. We were

:27:56.:27:58.

extremely worried about identity is being revealed because the

:27:59.:28:02.

punishment for anyone speaking out is death. The secret need and the

:28:03.:28:08.

activist group he belongs to dedicate itself to trying to inform

:28:09.:28:12.

the world about what is happening there, because the place is to shut

:28:13.:28:16.

off. There is such brutality happening but no one can live

:28:17.:28:20.

without permission from Islamic State and phone calls and intimate

:28:21.:28:24.

use is heavily monitored and controlled. It was vital for them to

:28:25.:28:29.

get their story and the best way to do it seemed to be by diary. A

:28:30.:28:34.

testament to how strongly he feels about getting it out, the fact he is

:28:35.:28:40.

risking his life doing that. He is risking his life. It is thought at

:28:41.:28:44.

least ten people have been beheaded by Islamic State. Two of them in

:28:45.:28:49.

Turkey. The crossed the border and thought they were safe, but they

:28:50.:28:53.

evidence it or not. It is a very dangerous thing for him to do and it

:28:54.:28:58.

is a great tribute to him and other activists that they are willing to

:28:59.:29:02.

take this risk to help their city and they are doing this so well in

:29:03.:29:07.

the diaries we will be hearing from this week. Without their voices, it

:29:08.:29:10.

is so difficult to understand what is going on. It is the day-to-day

:29:11.:29:19.

reach of what is being done. The way it affects families, communities. We

:29:20.:29:23.

hear about it in a political or military context, here we are

:29:24.:29:26.

hearing what happens in people's homes and shops and on the streets

:29:27.:29:29.

and it is quite horrifying. And you can watch that film again

:29:30.:29:32.

on the Today programme's website. It's been revealed that a dog has

:29:33.:29:35.

been kept in a cage by police The pit-bull dog, called Stella

:29:36.:29:39.

was seized by police in 2014 and has been kept in a 3ft by 9ft cage

:29:40.:29:43.

in Devon ever since. She's being held under the dangerous

:29:44.:29:48.

dogs act and is now on death row. Sergeant Allan Knight,

:29:49.:30:40.

from the Devon and Cornwall Police dog handling

:30:41.:30:42.

unit, has told the BBC back to their owners

:30:43.:30:47.

during proceedings in the past. A few minutes ago, we spoke to

:30:48.:31:05.

Charlotte, whose father was an alcoholic and died a few months ago.

:31:06.:31:10.

She gave us a powerful insight into living with a parent who is an

:31:11.:31:14.

alcoholic. So many people have been getting to talk about what you have

:31:15.:31:19.

been saying. You have had a big impact. I just wanted to tell you

:31:20.:31:23.

what people are saying. Karen best has been in touch son of George

:31:24.:31:26.

best, who died from alcohol-related issues -- Cal best. He said, well

:31:27.:31:34.

done for speaking up. Another says, the strength of my family kept it

:31:35.:31:39.

together and kept my mother alive. She has come out positively on the

:31:40.:31:43.

other side after a long struggle. I fear the genetic impact, as I know I

:31:44.:31:47.

drink too much and have lost a cousin to the disease. However,

:31:48.:31:51.

strong family values and the wonderful NHS can do much to combat

:31:52.:31:56.

this problem. My condolences to your guest. Tracy says, my mum was

:31:57.:31:57.

alcoholic and died in 2011. Sophie says, what an inspirational

:31:58.:32:34.

young woman. And Heather has said, alcoholism is so isolating for the

:32:35.:32:37.

alcoholic and the family. Please don't suffer in silence. A lot of

:32:38.:32:41.

love for you out there. That is amazing. How is your family reacting

:32:42.:32:47.

now that you are speaking openly about it? I was quite worried about

:32:48.:32:55.

it, because I was being open about something we have been private

:32:56.:32:58.

about, but they were so supportive and amazing. We are all dealing with

:32:59.:33:07.

this big shock, but it has brought us closer. Especially as they family

:33:08.:33:19.

unit, but also as a bigger circle, my cousin and my aunties. Someone

:33:20.:33:26.

mentioned the genetic thing, and it is something that terrifies me

:33:27.:33:33.

because there is a cycle of that kind of thing patting down. --

:33:34.:33:43.

patting down. That was why I want to speak out, to break the cycle. It is

:33:44.:33:51.

understandable that that is something you have thought about. It

:33:52.:33:57.

is always there in your head. It is terrifying. It is difficult, but I

:33:58.:34:07.

guess by being aware of it and speaking out and by making family

:34:08.:34:13.

and friends aware that your parents were alcoholics, it helps you to be

:34:14.:34:22.

more aware of your behaviour. But as someone said, it is very isolating.

:34:23.:34:30.

Thank you, Charlotte. And thank you for those comments. Keep getting in

:34:31.:34:35.

touch. You can hear more from Charlotte in a Newsbeat special

:34:36.:34:36.

programme. A radical overhaul of the RSPCA's

:34:37.:34:40.

animal cruelty policy - now it's to reduce prosecutions

:34:41.:34:47.

and focus its efforts on pet owners. And we'll talk to a passenger

:34:48.:34:50.

on the Ryanair plane that was forced to make an unscheduled stop

:34:51.:34:53.

in Berlin because of a rowdy stag Some of the details of how that

:34:54.:34:56.

party was pretty shocking. It's time for the main

:34:57.:35:04.

news this morning. In the last few minutes, there has

:35:05.:35:14.

been trouble on the border between Greece and Macedonia as migrants

:35:15.:35:16.

have forced their way through borderlines and torn down razor

:35:17.:35:20.

wire. Many migrants have been prevented from moving north after

:35:21.:35:22.

countries began shutting their borders.

:35:23.:35:23.

An Oscar at last for Leonardo DiCaprio, after more

:35:24.:35:28.

than 20 years in Hollywood and six nominations.

:35:29.:35:30.

He wins Best Actor for his role in The Revenant and uses his speech

:35:31.:35:33.

to call for action on climate change.

:35:34.:35:35.

Best actress was won by Brie Larson, who played a kidnap victim in Room.

:35:36.:35:41.

Thank you to the fans, thank you to the moviegoers. Thank you for going

:35:42.:35:43.

to the cinema and seeing our films. The NHS is struggling

:35:44.:35:47.

with a shortage of doctors A BBC investigation reveals most

:35:48.:35:50.

trusts in England, Wales and Northern Ireland are actively

:35:51.:35:56.

recruiting abroad, as they try to fill tens of thousands

:35:57.:35:58.

of vacant posts. We've got rota gaps

:35:59.:36:04.

across the country in emergency medicine and we're struggling

:36:05.:36:07.

to fill and recruit doctors You know there is only one story I

:36:08.:36:09.

am interested in! We will get there! These are your headlines

:36:10.:36:23.

this morning. Manchester City have

:36:24.:36:25.

claimed the first silverware They beat Liverpool

:36:26.:36:26.

on penalties in the League

:36:27.:36:28.

Cup final at Wembley. Willy Caballero was

:36:29.:36:30.

City's match winner. He saved three

:36:31.:36:32.

spot-kicks in the shootout. Arsenal have slipped up

:36:33.:36:35.

in the title race. Teenager Marcus Rashford

:36:36.:36:37.

scored another two goals. That's four in his first two

:36:38.:36:41.

appearances for Manchester United, but this also got one

:36:42.:36:45.

of the biggest cheers of the day, remonstrating with the fourth

:36:46.:36:48.

official and explaining how he thought Arsenal's

:36:49.:36:51.

players were diving. The Gunners' defeat was good

:36:52.:36:59.

for Spurs, as they came from behind

:37:00.:37:01.

to beat Swansea. Danny Rose scored their winner

:37:02.:37:04.

at White Hart lane to close the gap on leaders Leicester to two

:37:05.:37:08.

points once more. And one of the young athletes

:37:09.:37:11.

who lit the Olympic flame at London 2012, Adelle Tracey, has qualified

:37:12.:37:14.

for the World Indoor Championships in the 800 metres,

:37:15.:37:16.

beating Lynsey Sharp and Jenny Meadows in

:37:17.:37:18.

the British trials yesterday. That is all your sport. That makes

:37:19.:37:35.

me giggle every time. I look forward to you falling over later.

:37:36.:37:43.

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is warning the Prime

:37:44.:37:46.

Minister David Cameron against fighting what she has called a

:37:47.:37:50.

miserable, negative, fear -based EU referendum campaign. Our political

:37:51.:37:53.

guru Norman Smith is at Westminster for us.

:37:54.:37:58.

It is an age-old question- does negative campaigning work? Is feared

:37:59.:38:04.

that card to play? That is the accusation being made against the PM

:38:05.:38:08.

and those who want to stay in the EU, that they are trying to give us

:38:09.:38:12.

the heebie-jeebies about leaving. You remember that the other day, we

:38:13.:38:17.

had warnings about the so-called Jungle refugee camp in Calais coming

:38:18.:38:22.

over to Dover if we left the EU. Then we had those letters from

:38:23.:38:26.

business people wanting about the damaging economic consequences. Then

:38:27.:38:29.

we had the letter from military leaders about the security risks of

:38:30.:38:34.

leaving. Well, today we get another dossier from the government which

:38:35.:38:38.

says that it could take more than ten years to negotiate our

:38:39.:38:41.

withdrawal from the EU. In the meantime, it is argued that that

:38:42.:38:47.

would have a hugely negative impact on the economy, on the value of the

:38:48.:38:52.

pound, on jobs, questions over what would happen to the 2 million Brits

:38:53.:38:56.

still living in EU countries, what would happen to the fishing

:38:57.:38:59.

industry? Would they still have access to EU waters? The response of

:39:00.:39:07.

the Leave campaign is to say this is a dodgy dossier by Project Fear. In

:39:08.:39:11.

other words, they are tried to make us nervous about the idea of leaving

:39:12.:39:16.

the EU, that we just that, we will not do that. That was also the

:39:17.:39:19.

message, interestingly, from one of Mr Cameron's unlikely supporters,

:39:20.:39:25.

Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland's First Minister, who is also campaigning

:39:26.:39:29.

for us to stay in the EU. She also cautioned Mr Cameron not to go

:39:30.:39:31.

negative, because it could backfire. I hope the debate we engaged in over

:39:32.:39:40.

the next few months is a thoroughly positive debate, because one of the

:39:41.:39:46.

undoubted lessons of the Scottish experience is that a miserable,

:39:47.:39:52.

negative, fear -based campaign saw the no campaign in the Scottish

:39:53.:39:58.

referendum lose, over the course of the campaign, a 20 point lead. I

:39:59.:40:05.

don't have to point out to anybody here that the ink campaign in this

:40:06.:40:09.

referendum doesn't have a 20 point lead -- the inner campaign.

:40:10.:40:14.

Boris Johnson, in this morning's Daily Telegraph, has picked up on

:40:15.:40:20.

that theme, saying the Brexit campaign is project hope. Those who

:40:21.:40:26.

want to remain our Project Fear. He says, are you frightened? Have

:40:27.:40:31.

Facebook you yet? The question is, does fear work? I guess if you look

:40:32.:40:35.

at the Scottish referendum, it did work -- have they spooked you yet?

:40:36.:40:40.

Maybe they are tried to do the same again. We also in for a debate over

:40:41.:40:46.

TV debates? I think we are. The broadcasters have come up with a

:40:47.:40:51.

series of proposals for TV debates. One will be hosted in Glasgow on May

:40:52.:40:56.

the 19th. Then there are two others in June, one done by David Dimbleby,

:40:57.:41:02.

I think on June 15, a Question Time style debate where the rival

:41:03.:41:08.

leaders, presumably the Prime Minister and maybe Boris Johnson,

:41:09.:41:12.

may be questioned by a studio audience as they were during the

:41:13.:41:16.

general election campaign. Then there will be a third debate, which

:41:17.:41:22.

will be a much larger debate at Wembley Arena. They had that in the

:41:23.:41:27.

Scotland campaign, when they had a similar huge debate at the Glasgow

:41:28.:41:32.

convention centre. Talking to the good folk at Number Ten, they say

:41:33.:41:38.

the PM is happy to look at taking part in a debate. I get the idea he

:41:39.:41:42.

doesn't want to take part in the Wembley Arena one, which was

:41:43.:41:45.

described as a circus to me. Not very flattering. I think he will be

:41:46.:41:52.

happy to take part in the Question Time one. The key issue is, who goes

:41:53.:41:57.

up against him? Is it RS versus the PM? Is it Michael Gove versus the

:41:58.:42:01.

PM? Believe campaign have not said so far, but they say both Boris or

:42:02.:42:05.

Michael Gove would be very effective. So we could be facing a

:42:06.:42:09.

sort of showdown in a Question Time style debate between the PM and

:42:10.:42:13.

maybe Boris Johnson. What box office that would be. We will also have a

:42:14.:42:20.

big studio debate here on the programme in June.

:42:21.:42:25.

The RSPCA is changing the way it deals with cases of animal abuse

:42:26.:42:28.

The charity takes more than 1,300 people to court each year.

:42:29.:42:31.

After criticism of its record, it now says it will leave some cases

:42:32.:42:35.

to local authorities and state prosecutors.

:42:36.:42:37.

Our reporter Jim Reed looked into all this last year and is back

:42:38.:42:41.

Tell us how much power the RSPCA has? It is worth pointing out that

:42:42.:42:53.

these are some very grim cases of animal abuse. And it is worth

:42:54.:42:59.

explaining how these things work. These are criminal offences.

:43:00.:43:02.

Normally with a criminal offence, you would have the police

:43:03.:43:06.

investigating and then you would have an independent organisation,

:43:07.:43:08.

the Crown Prosecution Service in England and Wales, deciding whether

:43:09.:43:11.

there is enough evidence to take this to court and it is in the

:43:12.:43:15.

public interest. In animal abuse cases, you don't work that way. You

:43:16.:43:22.

have RSPCA inspectors investigating and a prosecution unit from the

:43:23.:43:26.

RSPCA deciding whether to prosecute. Critics say there are not the right

:43:27.:43:30.

checks and balances there. It means the wrong people can be taken to

:43:31.:43:35.

court. Last year, we looked into one case of Claude, an elderly

:43:36.:43:40.

15-year-old cat. He lived with the Burns family in Hertfordshire. Some

:43:41.:43:45.

neighbours called the RSPCA because, they said, he looked shabby and had

:43:46.:43:49.

been neglected. The RSPCA came round, and Claude was taken away and

:43:50.:43:53.

put down two days later, the family say against their wishes. Then Mr

:43:54.:43:57.

and Mrs Burns were prosecuted for animal neglect and animal cruelty

:43:58.:44:02.

and went through a two-year process before all the charges were dropped.

:44:03.:44:05.

We asked Richard Burns about the impact on him and his family. We are

:44:06.:44:16.

a nation of animal lovers. No one would want to be associated with

:44:17.:44:19.

animal cruelty. We loved Claude absolutely and never did anything

:44:20.:44:25.

near cruelty that cat. What kind of treatment did you get on the

:44:26.:44:30.

internet and social media? Well, I was compared to a paedophile. My

:44:31.:44:38.

daughter came across Facebook pages saying things that are not

:44:39.:44:45.

repeatable about me and the family. In that case, the RSPCA had to

:44:46.:44:50.

apologise, but it is those cases which have proved for a

:44:51.:44:53.

controversial over the last couple of years. What changes are being

:44:54.:44:57.

made? There are a couple. Part of this is about the types of cases the

:44:58.:45:01.

RSPCA is taking on. There are three areas where it says it will back

:45:02.:45:06.

away from prosecuting. One is hunting cases involving red coated

:45:07.:45:13.

hunts. Another is cases involving animal sanctuaries and a third is

:45:14.:45:15.

cases involving farms. It may prosecute in the future, but it says

:45:16.:45:18.

it will generally leave those cases to other authorities like trading

:45:19.:45:21.

standards or the CPS. As for cases of pets, it will continue to

:45:22.:45:25.

persecute, but there will be extra safeguards. There will be an

:45:26.:45:30.

independent complaints service, and it says it is going to stop

:45:31.:45:35.

publicising some of the prosecution cases as a way to increase

:45:36.:45:40.

donations, which is another area it has been criticised in the last few

:45:41.:45:46.

years. Let's speak now to Hayley Firman from the RSPCA. Are these

:45:47.:45:52.

changes and acknowledgement that the RSPCA has been overstepping the

:45:53.:45:53.

mark? We welcomed the review. The review

:45:54.:46:09.

covered all of our prosecution processes and it has made 33

:46:10.:46:14.

recommendations which we have embraced and are enacting in our

:46:15.:46:19.

processes. As a result of that review, we have had an opportunity

:46:20.:46:22.

to look at our business practices and lived to see how we can make

:46:23.:46:26.

improvements and continue to do a good job. Under the changes, would

:46:27.:46:36.

someone like Richard Bryans whose case we highlighted, go through the

:46:37.:46:40.

same sort of thing, or is that going to be a thing of the past? I would

:46:41.:46:45.

hope that is a thing of the past. The RSPCA acknowledges that in the

:46:46.:46:54.

past we may not have conducted an investigation or prosecution in the

:46:55.:46:59.

most measured ways and this has been helpful, the review, to look at that

:47:00.:47:04.

and we sincerely hope that incidences like that are things of

:47:05.:47:07.

the past and that we have learned from that experience. Why did it

:47:08.:47:14.

take this review to make the changes come about, because people have been

:47:15.:47:19.

criticising the RSPCA for years since it has been overstepping the

:47:20.:47:26.

mark? We had to do something, I suppose, and this seemed like an

:47:27.:47:32.

opportunity to have a review. I cannot say what it took so long, but

:47:33.:47:36.

it has happened and it has been a positive experience for the RSPCA.

:47:37.:47:43.

Your companion organisations in Scotland and Northern Ireland

:47:44.:47:47.

generally do not prosecute, they do not prosecute their own cases, White

:47:48.:47:51.

should you have this power in England and Wales but not use it in

:47:52.:47:56.

other parts of the United Kingdom? Because we can. There is the power

:47:57.:48:04.

to take private prosecutions. The RSPCA see it as a charitable purpose

:48:05.:48:10.

for them to enforce animal welfare legislation and at the moment, we

:48:11.:48:14.

are a leading player in that. Therefore, we use the opportunity to

:48:15.:48:20.

take a private prosecutions in the cases where we think it is

:48:21.:48:25.

appropriate. You will still have the right to do that going forward? Yes.

:48:26.:48:32.

That has not changed. Would you expect the number to be reduced?

:48:33.:48:41.

That is difficult for me to say. We have had to consider each case and

:48:42.:48:45.

it will depend on how many cases are referred to us from the inspectors

:48:46.:48:48.

are carried out investigations. I can say that we are looking to

:48:49.:48:57.

review each case and we review each case in accordance with the code for

:48:58.:49:03.

the Crown Prosecution Service and we make decisions following the code.

:49:04.:49:09.

If there are cases where we feed there should be prosecutions because

:49:10.:49:12.

they meet those standards, I expect we will be commencing prosecution.

:49:13.:49:19.

Equally, we are looking at how we can move forward in eight more

:49:20.:49:23.

educational and preventative type way, looking at ways we can work

:49:24.:49:28.

with people who we field have committed animal welfare offences

:49:29.:49:31.

and we are working with organisations to do that. Thank you

:49:32.:49:43.

for joining us. Some breaking news we are getting from Moscow. A woman

:49:44.:49:48.

has been arrested after reportedly being seen outside a Metro station

:49:49.:49:53.

with a severed head of a child. She was dressed in black and shouting

:49:54.:50:00.

God is great. That just three. Reportedly, a woman has been

:50:01.:50:03.

arrested in Moscow after being seen outside a Metro station with a

:50:04.:50:06.

severed child APPLAUSE Head.

:50:07.:50:09.

We will check out those reports and we will bring you more as we get it.

:50:10.:50:18.

The big talking point from the Academy Awards is the fact that for

:50:19.:50:24.

the second year running, the acting nominees were white. It did lead to

:50:25.:50:31.

boycott of the show. The host, Chris Rock, did not shy away from tackling

:50:32.:50:41.

the race run head-on. I am here at the Academy Awards, also known as

:50:42.:50:47.

the white people's choice. If they nominated hosts, I would not even

:50:48.:50:48.

get this job. Actors Whoopi Goldberg,

:50:49.:50:51.

Sacha Baron Cohen and Mark Rylance praised Chris Rock's

:50:52.:50:53.

hard-hitting monologue. I feel like, when you hire

:50:54.:50:58.

Chris Rock, whatever is happening in the zeitgeist will

:50:59.:51:01.

come through what he He pulled no punches

:51:02.:51:03.

and he was not polite. Chris dealt with it I think

:51:04.:51:09.

pretty well and you know, I think there is a bigger

:51:10.:51:14.

issue, which is there has to actually be greater diversity

:51:15.:51:17.

at all levels of Hollywood. I think it would be a shame

:51:18.:51:21.

if it was just tokenism and a few more black actors

:51:22.:51:24.

appear on the screen. I think at all levels,

:51:25.:51:29.

in all the production companies and all the studios,

:51:30.:51:31.

then needs to actually be positive discrimination and

:51:32.:51:34.

affirmative action. When he talks about people hanging

:51:35.:51:46.

from trees and that is why they didn't care about whether some one

:51:47.:51:50.

cinematography, you party class and you pass want to cry. I am not sure

:51:51.:51:56.

I want to be laughing at this. It is not just Hollywood he is responding

:51:57.:51:59.

to come it is to do with the killings of people by police and the

:52:00.:52:07.

number of African Americans who are in prison. There is a deep issue

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that needs to be addressed. With me now is Akua Gyamfi,

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is the founder of the British Blacklist, database

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of Black British Actors. What do you think about how Chris

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Rock handle it? He did the job was supposed to do. We all expected him

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to come out blazing, say something hard-hitting and that is the comedy

:52:33.:52:37.

we got used to. He does political, hard edged comedy. We knew he would

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take people down. I think he did a good job and handled himself the way

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people expected anti-cult of a feud things that needed to be spoken

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about. There was pressure on him, so some people are saying it wasn't

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enough, it shouldn't be comedy but he is a comedian and he did the best

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job he could do. He drew the analogy with sororities. We don't have them

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in this country but it is saying you are not in the right club. Was that

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a good analogy for him to draw on? Absolutely. It is people who are

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non-white looking in. It is across the industry and it is very

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exclusive. How did you get into this? You have to jump through

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hoops. You have got to be used before you can get in and are

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equivalent is doing things that are not supportive or positively

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representative of the community. Sometimes people think we have to do

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certain things to get in and it is a problem. How does that happen? A lot

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of actors spoke about it and they are saying the point is you just

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need to have black faces in movies in the same way that white faces

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are, but it is just not questioned and Chris Rock said every year

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Leonardo DiCaprio gets a great role, where the group rose for Jimmy Fox?

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How does that happen? Something needs to change in the industry and

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then the awards can reflect that. It is about letting non-white people, I

:54:14.:54:18.

represent black people but it is not white people, getting the chance to

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tell stories outside of the stereotypical boxes. It is not about

:54:22.:54:28.

slavery all the time or servitude, we have broader scope of stories to

:54:29.:54:32.

be told and we have to be allowed to tell them and it is about getting

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funding and support, it is the people who hold the keys to the kids

:54:37.:54:40.

sharing their knowledge of and the platform so more diverse stories can

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be told. There will be good to awards season, we have a broader

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range of films to choose from and the members and judges can make more

:54:49.:54:53.

informed decisions and we can look at the membership and spread that

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diversity as well. The industry needs to change. Do you think the

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process will speed up now it is being talked about in this way or

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does it go into, that was talked about this year, where does it go

:55:07.:55:11.

from there? That is why the people who boycott it has helped. People

:55:12.:55:15.

like Chris Rock speaking on the platform have helped. People behind

:55:16.:55:20.

the scenes have helped. We have to keep on talking about this and not

:55:21.:55:25.

let the industry say we are doing this because it is in the headlines

:55:26.:55:29.

but if you put down the line it will change and we will move onto

:55:30.:55:32.

something else. It cannot stop and we have to push the industry to

:55:33.:55:38.

change because otherwise... This has been going on, Richard Pryor, Eddie

:55:39.:55:42.

Murphy, over the years, these statements have been made. It is

:55:43.:55:47.

nothing new, but there is something different in the bus and around. I

:55:48.:55:51.

feel people will not take it lying down and there are so different

:55:52.:55:55.

mediums. The internet has been a massive ceiling breaker for people

:55:56.:56:00.

and you cannot avoid the talent and independent talent coming out from

:56:01.:56:05.

these communities. They give are talking about it. Let us know what

:56:06.:56:09.

you think about it. A Ryanair flight was forced to take

:56:10.:56:10.

an unscheduled landing in Berlin this weekend after members of a stag

:56:11.:56:12.

party became overly rowdy. The group of 12 from Southampton

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were among 170 passengers travelling from Luton to the Slovak

:56:16.:56:18.

capital Bratislava. According to German press reports,

:56:19.:56:19.

six members of the group became aggressive after being

:56:20.:56:23.

refused further alcohol. One member of the group

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then undressed. They may now face fines of up

:56:26.:56:27.

to ?20,000 and a possible Darius Davis was a passenger on

:56:28.:56:41.

board. What happened? It was a crazy flight. They were drug from the get

:56:42.:56:47.

go. Ten minutes into the flight one of the stag members still the

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trousers of someone else. One of them was exposed and he was being

:56:52.:56:55.

boisterous and naked from the waist down. He said I don't care if we

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crash, I have a helicopter and was spinning his genitals around. The

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passengers, I do not think they realised what was going on, they

:57:10.:57:12.

thought it was because it was a Ryanair flight. Most people were

:57:13.:57:20.

recording what was happening to put it on YouTube and essentially the

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stewards were not doing very much to help stop people recording and

:57:27.:57:31.

halfway through when it got too rowdy, he kept getting up, they said

:57:32.:57:40.

we are diverting to Germany. The vast majority of the group got

:57:41.:57:43.

arrested, a feud remained behind. There were children on board and it

:57:44.:57:49.

was terrible. You do not want to see that on your site. It ran our first

:57:50.:57:54.

evening of the holiday. You describe the most extreme thing going on. Did

:57:55.:57:58.

it come down after that or just keep going? If you can imagine very

:57:59.:58:06.

drunk, boisterous British going on, that is what it was. They were

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fighting amongst themselves. They would go quiet for two minutes and

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then he would stand up and put his genitals on the seat in of him and

:58:15.:58:21.

ask if the person wanted tea. It sounds funny now, but it wasn't at

:58:22.:58:27.

the time. Thank you for joining us. Ryanair have sent us a statement

:58:28.:58:30.

about the incident. They said we do not tolerate unruly or disruptive

:58:31.:58:34.

behaviour at any time. This safety and comfort of our safety --

:58:35.:58:39.

passengers, crew and aircraft is our number one priority. This is now a

:58:40.:58:41.

matter for local police. On the programme tomorrow we look

:58:42.:58:43.

at the number of homeless people risking their lives by sleeping

:58:44.:58:45.

in commercial bins. All sorts of other up and down the

:58:46.:59:10.

UK. It is fine and sunny after some wet and windy weather for some

:59:11.:59:14.

people. Has been snubbed in Northern Ireland. It has been turning back to

:59:15.:59:19.

green. Still some white stuff over the high ground. Pushing into

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