23/03/2016 Victoria Derbyshire


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Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

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Two suicide bombers who blew themselves up at Brussels airport

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have been identified as brothers who police were already searching

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for over links to the Paris attacks suspect, Salah Abdeslam.

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The third failed airport bomber has been named - he's on the run

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So-called Islamic State says it carried out the attacks.

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A bomb, chemicals and an IS flag have been found

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Brussels is in mourning - with tributes coming in for the 34

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people murdered in those attacks on the airport and metro system.

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We are fine, as a family, we are not injured, we are not hurt. It was

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very scary but we are lucky. Some people did not make it and our

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thoughts should go with them. I am Jon Kay reporting live from

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Brussels, as this city tries to come to terms with what has happened. The

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first victim has been named, a mother of two young twins.

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Two of the men thought to have been behind yesterday's bombings

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at the airport in Brussels have been named by Belgian state media

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as two brothers - Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui -

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Both are believed to have died in the two airport explosions,

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A third man thought to be involved in the airport bombings,

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who is still on the run, has been named by state media

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Yes, Victoria, this is a capital city. It is the centre of European

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Union decision-making, but it feels in parts like a village. There is

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hardly anybody out. The trends are empty, the Metro is not running. The

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main airport remains closed. This square has become a centre of quite

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reflection where people have been coming in their thousands on their

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way to work, or maybe they are not working this morning, to light

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candles, leave flowers and even flowers in Belgian beer bottles, to

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hug and gather one another and reflect. A lot of people have told

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me over the last few hours, that they expected something like this to

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happen in Brussels, after the Paris terror attacks, knowing there were

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links to this city and knowing there were raids over the last few months

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and days. Nothing could prepare them for the reality of what we saw

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24-hour is a go. You can hear drills going. This is still a functioning

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city but somebody said to me earlier, this does not feel like the

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same place. It will be a long time before it does. Let's get the latest

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now from Richard Lister. Three men in the airport. Suicide

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bombers about to strike. This man, named in Belgian media as Najim

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Laachraoui did not blow himself up and is on the run. He left this

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behind him. Smoke, chaos and death at one of Europe's Mac be --

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Europe's busiest airports. There was a second bombing at this station.

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These commuters were caught underground, unlucky, if terrifying

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escape. After a tip-off from a taxi driver, police raided a flat

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uncovering a nail bomb, chemicals and the flag of the so-called

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Islamic State. Brussels is a city on edge. Security has been stepped up

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and not just at the European institutions based here. Everyone

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this morning is wondering about what happens next. Yesterday I was seeing

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on Twitter somebody said we should kill all Muslims, so indeed this

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anti-Ms Lynn sentiment really increases. But what we need to

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understand is to unite against these terrorists. There is already evident

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urging that Najim Laachraoui on the right is linked to the Paris terror

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attacks. He is now the most wanted man in Europe.

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All-night people have gathered here. This has become a focal point. It is

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a very sombre, but I think a workmanlike attitude as well here.

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People a to prove that life does go on, and despite the fact that so

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many people are connected in some way to what happened, either knows

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someone who was caught up in it or know someone who is missing or died,

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they are determined not just to show their solidarity and defiance, but

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to get on with the realities of everyday life, as you can hear from

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the drills which are still going, as the people here remind you of what

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has happened on their doorstep. Jon Kay life in Brussels.

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The Foreign Office has warned people travelling to Belgium to remain

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vigilant and stay away from crowded areas.

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It says two Britons were wounded in the attacks.

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Concern has been expressed about David Dixon, an IT programmer

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from Nottingham, who is missing in Brussels.

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A family friend told the BBC that his partner Charlotte Sutcliffe

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has been searching the city's hospitals for him.

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Charlotte is desperately trying to find him.

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Trying desperately to find out where he is, and make contact

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with him, but he hasn't made contact with her at all.

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She's very worried, she's desperately searching for him,

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and if anyone can help, then please let us know.

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He's an amazing man, who deeply, deeply loves his son,

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David Cameron will chair a meeting of the government's emergency Cobra

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committee this morning to consider how the UK should respond

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Norman Smith is following developments

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Specifically, what will they be discussing? Well, I think the Cobra

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meeting has just finished. I saw Theresa May, the Home Secretary,

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just coming out. We should get an update on whether there are any

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British fatalities or injured. We have heard two injured. My senses

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these are not critical injuries. In terms of David Dixon, when I spoke

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to folk at them attend this morning, they did not have any detail about

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his whereabouts. We may get more information shortly. In broad terms,

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what Mr Cameron will be doing will be looking at the security

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arrangements put in place yesterday, which involved more visible presence

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of police, more controls, checks and sniffer dogs at airports and ports,

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but broadly, we are being told that people should be alert but not

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alarmed. At the moment, there is no suggestion of any direct link with

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the attacks in Brussels, and the threat in Britain. The threat level

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here remains the same. One other issue is whether there is any

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controversy over remarks from some politicians in the wake of the

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attack, particularly Ukip politicians, who have sought to

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suggest that the attacks were to some extent fuelled by lax EU

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migration rules. We had from the Ukip leader Nigel Farage overnight

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saying free movement equals free movement of Kalashnikovs. I think

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that will cause some disquiet and certainly, both the Prime Minister

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and the Home Secretary yesterday appealed to politicians not to use

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this attack in any way to do further arguments in the EU referendum

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campaign. Annita is in the BBC Newsroom,

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with more on this story, and a summary of the rest

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of the day's news. A review examining how

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South Yorkshire Police dealt with allegations of child sexual

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exploitation says a lack of interest by senior officers led to repeated

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failures to investigate. The force says it's made significant

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progress in tackling exploitation and grooming but it accepts that

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more needs to be done. Previous reports have detailed

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the scale of the abuse The frontrunners in the races

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for the US Republican and Democratic presidential nominations

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have won their parties' It makes it more likely it will be

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Hillary Clinton facing Donald Trump at the presidential

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election in November. But it wasn't a clean sweep

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for either of them - they look likely to lose

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their caucuses in Utah - where Ted Cruz and Bernie

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Sanders hold clear leads. The future of BHS is being decided

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today, as creditors vote Without an agreement,

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the loss making retailer may go into administration,

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putting more than 10,000 jobs The firm also has a pensions

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deficit of ?571 million. Prince Harry's tour of Nepal comes

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to an end later today. He'll finish his visit by opening

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an event aimed at promoting gender equality and discouraging child

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marriage in Nepalese society. Nicholas Witchell is

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on the trip with the Prince. He has spent three days now learning

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about Nepal. He has been out at dawn to watch the sunrise over the

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Himalayas, after spending the night at a small Gurkha village. He has

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received Garland after Garland of welcome. In another Gurkha village,

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he joined in celebrations for the Hindu celebration, having his face

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painted bright red. A visit which has also had a serious purpose.

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Harry paid tribute to the Gurkha soldiers who have given their lives

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in the service of Britain, and he has expressed its solidarity with

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Nepal as the country commemorates the earthquake last year. Today, he

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will turn to another issue in Nepal in society, the issue of women. He

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will attend a summit with the president, a woman.

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Conservationists say they found 160 plastic bottles for every mile

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of British coastline their volunteers cleaned last year.

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The Marine Conservation Society said the number had risen by 43%

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The charity is calling for deposit return schemes

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That's a summary of the latest BBC News -

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Thank you. Throughout the programme we will keep you up-to-date with the

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latest developments from Brussels. Let's get some sport now,

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with Chris, and we're less than an hour away from an important

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match for England's cricketers. We are indeed. England play

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Afghanistan at the T20 World Cup. A win for them will move them a step

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closer to a place in the semifinals. England won their opener but

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dramatically beat South Africa. Joe Wilson reports. England's

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victory in their last game at the world T20 really restored their

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credibility, the remarkable run chase against South Africa. But here

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in Delhi, they face a different challenge, taking on a nation where

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cricket is really booming. It was Afghan refugees in Pakistan who

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first picked up cricket. Here there is a well-established Afghani

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community where you can see traditional bread-making

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restaurants. As for the cricket team, they played two matches in

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this tournament, lost both but played well. Afghanistan not just

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here to create goodwill they have two matches left to create a good

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impression, starting with England. The focus is on a win. At least one

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win, whether it is England or the West Indies. We are trying at least

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to play good cricket and win the match, not just play good cricket.

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It is our fourth World Cup T20 and the last World Cup we did not

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perform. A very destructive side, certainly with the way they bat. We

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get a lot of footage from everybody. Playing them as a nation in the past

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is not what they used to be. Certainly watching a lot of them, we

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have an idea of the game plans they hold. In cricketing terms, England

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have demonstrated they have power, but can they exert control? Even in

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2020, especially here in India, there is a need for subtlety.

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England's women are already closing in on a place in the last four. They

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beat the tournament hosts India. A great catch coming up. Katherine

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Brunt with the sticky fingers underneath. India only making 90

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from their 20 overs. It was tight. They play the West Indies tomorrow.

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The Wales manager Chris Coleman says he is not fearful for his own, or

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his players safety at Euro 2016, following the attacks in Brussels.

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Uefa has said they will take all necessary measures to make sure the

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tournament in France is safe and secure. There have been lots of

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terrorist attacks, unfortunately, and there is always a doubt in the

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back of your mind. Do I feel safe going to the tournament? Yes, I know

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Uefa have worked really hard to make sure everything is OK for the

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tournament. Hopefully, the tournament goes ahead, I'm sure it

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will do, and I'm sure it will be a good one.

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And the new women's Super League season gets under way later. I will

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be speaking to Isabel Kristiansen just after ten o'clock about that.

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Thank you. "They took away everything" -

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the words of the husband of one of the women killed in yesterday's

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deadly attacks in Brussels. Adelma Marina Tapia Ruiz

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is the first of the 34 victims Her husband and twin four-year

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old daughters were unhurt because they left the area

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in the airport moments before Police in Belgium are now searching

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for the failed airport bomber walking alongside two brothers

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who blew themselves and others up, in the departure hall at Brussels

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international airport. He's been named locally as 24 year

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old Najim Lachrauio - he's suspected of being responsible

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for the bombs used in the Paris massacre in November after his DNA

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was found on suicide belts used at the Bataclan Theatre

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and the Stade deFrance. In this picture, he's seen pushing

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a luggage trolley with a suitcase thought to have contained a bomb

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that did not explode. The other two men in this picture

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have been named as brothers Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui who are also

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thought to be known to police. The Islamic State group says it

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carried out the attacks. A bomb, chemicals and an IS flag

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have been found at a house 34 people died and more than two

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hundred others were wounded in the blasts at the airport

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and at a metro station. Stay down. Stay down. People started

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panicking and running. The only thing I saw was just dust in the

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air. People were running for their lives. There were some announcements

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that something had gone wrong. The woman's voice was like quite shaken

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on the intercom and that's when I know we should move.

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Did you see or hear the explosion? No, but I walked through a mess,

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glass, metal, smoke, water dripping from the ceiling. We had to walk

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through puddles and we were evacuated.

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We felt a small blast of air. And we heard some thudding in the distance.

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The metro immediately stopped. The lights turned off. The engine turned

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off. After a few minutes someone came and had us evacuate on to the

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tracks and walk back to the metro station.

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This tragic moment, this black moment in our country and never

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before I would like to call on everybody to show calmness and

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solidarity. These are difficult times. These are appalling

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terrorists, but we must stand together to do everything we can to

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stop them and make sure that although they attack our way our

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life and they attack us because of who we were we are we will not let

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them win. It is the whole world that's concerned with this.

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We are just hearing the Home Secretary, Theresa May, is due to

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make a statement later. We will bring that to you live when it

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happens. Gavin Lee is at Brussels International Airport this morning.

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Gavin. Well, I am as far as you can get to

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the kiss and fly zone where families say goodbye to their loved ones

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before they get to the departures lounge, 400 meters from here and

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right now police, army officers and special forces operatives are

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walking around the perimeter saying you can only go through if you are

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part of the investigation team and part of the forensic team given the

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wreckage in the departure lounge, debris over the floor. There has

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been an update in terms of the investigation coming from

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intelligence officers it seems to the State media who are reporting

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the two men, the two bombers inside the hall were brothers, called the

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el-Bakraoui brothers, Khalid and Ibrahim el-Bakraoui. They were said

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to be accomplices of Salah Abdelsalam, arrested in this raid on

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Friday. The missing Paris suspect. We have also heard in the last half

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an hour of this third suspect on the run, who, he has been named in the

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last half an hour again by Belgian state media as Najim Laachraoui.

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This is someone who was seen with Salah Abdelsalam two months before

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the Paris attacks of the he is said to be a known bomb maker. His images

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fit according to intelligence sources of the image of a man issued

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on a photo ID. This morning, let me bring you up-to-date, people coming

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out from the airport, many said they were forced to spend the night at

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the sher ra tonne Hotel. This Anita. Tell me about what happened to you

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in the last 24 hours. Sure. I was at the hotel attending a conference and

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the first inkling I had that something terrible happened when I

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went to the meeting area and I ran into a gentleman and he said he was

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accosted by a woman who looked panicked and she was yelling and

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screaming in French. She said in English, "Don't go out. Don't go

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out. There have been two expositions." He saw another lady

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coming in with her forehead bleeding. We saw a steady flow of

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people coming in, they set-up a triage centre, they were bringing in

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empty stretchers and wheeling out people with minor injuries and arms

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bandaged up and around shortly after lunch 1.30pm, we were all told to go

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to the back of the hotel into a ballroom and to stand right back at

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the wall and a policeman came in and he said there maybe another

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explosion, a controlled one and of course, we all became very nervous

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because by that point we thought we were safe. And we stood there more

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about 10 or 15 minutes and another gentleman came in and said, "Please

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stay here. There is another suspicious item that's been found."

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After ten minutes we were allowed to go up to our rooms and we wondered

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whether it was the third bomb, the so-called controlled explosion. You

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were telling me a moment ago, when people were being treated in the

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triage, you were spaking to some of these people. Tell me about what you

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were hearing? Where the people were from and what injuries they had?

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There was a woman who was visiting Brussels for the first time from

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Malaysia. She was there with her special needs son and when the bomb

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went off, she told me that her son said, "I can't move. My leg hurts."

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He hadn't been injured, he was so panicked, so she dragged him out and

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took him into the hotel and the saddest most heartbreaking case was

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a woman I spoke to after eight hours after the explosion and she was

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sitting in the hotel ballroom, she had left her mother on a row of

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seats and gone to buy a ticket. And then she heard the blast and when

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she came back, she saw fires raging in front of the Delta KLM counter

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and on the row of seats where her mother was supposed to be, her

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mother was not there, but her mother's seat was clean, there was

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not a drop of blood, there was lots parts of the ceiling which had

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fallen down and she wondered if her mother was under one of the bits of

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ceiling. On Twitter I have had so many people saying they are looking

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for loved ones, please retweet and for you as well, I have spoke to

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many people in the hotel who said they were spoken to by intelligence

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officers and given a debrief, were you spoken to as well? My identity

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papers were checked and yes, I know there were members of the

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conference, there were people who had rooms overlooking the airport

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and I think there was someone in the conference group that actually saw

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the third bomber runaway and took a photo and this person was

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interviewed by the security officials and the photo was handed

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over. I know you are trying to sort out what you are going to do next in

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Brussels, thank you Anita. The other thing briefly to mention to you,

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Victoria is how many people around here have gone to help at a local

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sports hall where people are staying, it is a reception centre

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for those with nowhere to stay in Brussels, they are helping with

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food, water and basics and saying we have got rooms in our holes and

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please stay. A lot of Italians and Portuguese have been taking many

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volunteers up on that offer. STUDIO: Thank you, Gavin. Gavin Lee.

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We can talk now to Guy Trouvey who is the Belgian Ambassador

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Why does Belgium seem to have such a problem with extremists? Why

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Belgium? Well, we have problems. We are not the only ones, but we indeed

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have problems now. We have this phenomenon that we have been

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documenting now for years and we have been trying to contain which is

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the story of these young men and women who go and fight in Syria and

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come back with weapons, training, explosives training. But why so many

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from Belgium? Well, this is something maybe that a sociologist

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could answer you, but it is true that from one particular community

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there is a large number and I would say one particular community because

:25:24.:25:27.

you cannot put all Muslims in the same bag and the huge majority of

:25:28.:25:32.

Muslims living in Belgium are doing extremely well. Are integrated, but

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you have indeed, this minute group of three, four, five hundred people

:25:39.:25:43.

who have been to Syria, some of them have passed away there, others have

:25:44.:25:49.

come back and they are now fighting, they are ji hads in Europe. It is

:25:50.:25:53.

Belgium, it is France, it could be elsewhere.

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What is your Government's theory about why they are apparently

:25:58.:26:01.

thriving in this particular part of your capital city? Well, because

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that's where most of them, you know, it started, again as I said, I am

:26:07.:26:10.

not a specialist, but I can tell you that it may have started with groups

:26:11.:26:17.

of young men who started little gangs, petty criminality. They were

:26:18.:26:22.

closely tied to one another and decided at one point for reasons

:26:23.:26:26.

that would take I would say hours to explain, decided to go on this Jihad

:26:27.:26:31.

path. The connections were there. The community connections were

:26:32.:26:33.

there. The family connections were there. Again, I say within the town

:26:34.:26:44.

of Molenbeek, now it has become famous, we may as well mention the

:26:45.:26:48.

name, these chaps had the possibility of finding refuge and

:26:49.:26:52.

why did they go to Syria? This is the, I would say the topic of many

:26:53.:26:57.

debates? You have economic issue, maybe you have the religion, you

:26:58.:27:01.

have the fact that they were trying to redeem themselves and finding a

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reason to fight, but you have to say also that there is a terrible thing

:27:05.:27:09.

going on in Syria that can easily mobilise when you see the images of

:27:10.:27:14.

what is going on there, you can easily mobilise people or weaker

:27:15.:27:18.

spirits to go and fight over there. We have heard this morning that

:27:19.:27:24.

potentially the two brothers behind some of the explosions yesterday

:27:25.:27:28.

were known to your police service. How much does that alarm you? Well,

:27:29.:27:33.

to be honest, we have hundreds of names. We have hundreds of names. So

:27:34.:27:37.

we are alarmed. We are alarmed. It happens that this particular group,

:27:38.:27:42.

tied probably to the Paris attacks, are now the focus of everybody's

:27:43.:27:45.

attention, but there are hundreds of names. But, sorry to interrupt, you

:27:46.:27:52.

have the main suspect from the Paris terrorist attacks in your custody

:27:53.:27:56.

and yet this still happened days after he was arrested? Because he

:27:57.:28:00.

was arrested, but the rest of the group was not. So you have had, you

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know, you have besides the, when Salah Abdelsalam was arrested we

:28:09.:28:11.

said quickly, very quickly, the Prime Minister himself said this is

:28:12.:28:16.

a victory, but we realise that it is not over. That others are out there.

:28:17.:28:21.

That we still have a threat and in fact, we kept the lel of threat to a

:28:22.:28:25.

very high level because we thought when we said that attacks were

:28:26.:28:29.

plausible, unfortunately... Not imminent? We would say plausible,

:28:30.:28:34.

imminent, you never know. If we would have known it was imminent we

:28:35.:28:37.

could have arrested them. These are professionals. These are people who

:28:38.:28:41.

had the time to train. They had the time to I would say organise their

:28:42.:28:50.

logistics in the country. Yes, it is regrettable, but now the issue for

:28:51.:28:54.

us is not so much, is pinpointing what happened in the past, we have

:28:55.:28:57.

to see what we can do now and the good news here is the commitment we

:28:58.:29:03.

have received from our neighbouring countries, stopping the bickering

:29:04.:29:09.

and finger pointing and now we have solid commitments from France, from

:29:10.:29:13.

the UK, as we heard your Prime Minister, and I think this is

:29:14.:29:15.

something that we have to do together. To do together, fair

:29:16.:29:20.

enough, that is clearly a good thing, but are your intelligence

:29:21.:29:24.

services up to the job? They are, we hear this criticism. We

:29:25.:29:28.

think that... Do you accept it? We accept it maybe to a certain point,

:29:29.:29:34.

but what we can say also is that we have been over the years increasing

:29:35.:29:40.

our commitment to fight at both in terms of financial means and also

:29:41.:29:45.

recruitment of policemen, but this is a relatively new phenomenon, this

:29:46.:29:48.

is something that we had to face, that we haven't been facing before.

:29:49.:29:53.

So we are still in the beginning of this struggle and we are trying to

:29:54.:29:58.

do the best we can. We had success last year in stopping and foiling an

:29:59.:30:02.

attempt. We have foiled other attempts, but you know, the rule of

:30:03.:30:05.

the game is, you can noul nine attempts, but if the tenth goes on,

:30:06.:30:08.

that's the only one that people are tacking about.

:30:09.:30:11.

Thank you very much for talking to us this morning. Thank you.

:30:12.:30:14.

The Belgian ambassador to the UK. Two of the men thought to have been

:30:15.:30:23.

behind yesterday's bombings at the airport in Brussels have been

:30:24.:30:25.

named by Belgian state media as two brothers - Khalid and Brahim El

:30:26.:30:30.

Bakraoui, who lived in the city. Both are believed to have died

:30:31.:30:33.

in the two airport explosions along A third man thought to be involved

:30:34.:30:36.

in the airport bombings, who is still on the run,

:30:37.:30:39.

has been named by state media The Foreign Office has warned people

:30:40.:30:56.

travelling to Belgium to remain vigilant and stay away from crowded

:30:57.:31:01.

areas. It says two British people were injured in the attacks. Concern

:31:02.:31:06.

has been expressed for David Dixon, who was in Brussels on the day of

:31:07.:31:10.

the explosions. His partner has been searching the hospitals for him.

:31:11.:31:13.

Charlotte is desperately trying to find him.

:31:14.:31:15.

She's so trying to desperately find out where he is and make

:31:16.:31:18.

But he hasn't made contact with her at all.

:31:19.:31:21.

She's very worried, she's desperately searching for him

:31:22.:31:23.

and if anyone can help, then please let us know.

:31:24.:31:26.

He's an amazing man who deeply, deeply loves his son

:31:27.:31:30.

David Cameron has chaired a meeting of the Cobra committee this morning

:31:31.:31:50.

to consider how the UK should respond to the attacks. Senior

:31:51.:31:53.

ministers, including the Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond, were at

:31:54.:31:57.

the meeting. The Home Secretary Theresa May will make a statement in

:31:58.:31:59.

the Commons at 12:30pm. A review examining how

:32:00.:32:02.

South Yorkshire Police dealt with allegations of child sexual

:32:03.:32:04.

exploitation says a lack of interest by senior officers led to repeated

:32:05.:32:07.

failures to investigate. The force says it's made significant

:32:08.:32:11.

progress in tackling exploitation and grooming but it accepts that

:32:12.:32:14.

more needs to be done. Previous reports have detailed

:32:15.:32:16.

the scale of the abuse The frontrunners in the races

:32:17.:32:19.

for the US Republican and Democratic presidential nominations

:32:20.:32:27.

have won their parties' It makes it more likely it will be

:32:28.:32:28.

Hillary Clinton facing Donald Trump at the presidential

:32:29.:32:35.

election in November. But it wasn't a clean sweep

:32:36.:32:37.

for either of them - they look likely to lose

:32:38.:32:40.

their caucuses in Utah, where Ted Cruz and Bernie

:32:41.:32:43.

Sanders hold clear leads. The future of BHS is being decided

:32:44.:32:45.

today, as creditors vote Without an agreement,

:32:46.:32:48.

the loss making retailer may go into administration,

:32:49.:32:53.

putting more than 10,000 jobs The firm also has a pensions

:32:54.:32:54.

deficit of ?571 million. Prince Harry's tour of Nepal comes

:32:55.:33:02.

to an end later today. He'll finish his visit by opening

:33:03.:33:06.

an event aimed at promoting gender equality and discouraging child

:33:07.:33:09.

marriage in Nepalese society. Nicholas Witchell is

:33:10.:33:13.

on the trip with the Prince. It comes as the countries rebuilding

:33:14.:33:24.

following the devastating earthquake .

:33:25.:33:26.

Conservationists say they found 160 plastic bottles for every mile

:33:27.:33:28.

of British coastline their volunteers cleaned last year.

:33:29.:33:30.

The Marine Conservation Society said the number had risen by 43%

:33:31.:33:33.

The charity is calling for deposit return schemes to try

:33:34.:33:36.

That is a summary of the latest BBC News. Moore at ten o'clock. Time for

:33:37.:33:54.

the sport now. England are on the field with one win and one defeat,

:33:55.:34:01.

playing Afghanistan. They won the toss and decided to bat.

:34:02.:34:02.

England's women made it two wins out of two with victory over the hosts

:34:03.:34:06.

Great catch from England's Katherine Brunt to help them

:34:07.:34:09.

Novak Djokovic has tried to cool the row over equal pay in tennis,

:34:10.:34:18.

saying his comment that men deserve more prize money than women

:34:19.:34:21.

were taken the wrong way and what he meant to say

:34:22.:34:24.

was the sport needed a fairer and better distribution of funds

:34:25.:34:26.

The new Women's Super League season gets under way later,

:34:27.:34:33.

with Notts County up against last season's runners-up Manchester City.

:34:34.:34:35.

I'll be back with more on that just after 10.

:34:36.:34:53.

For many the attacks in Brussels striking at the heart of the city's

:34:54.:34:56.

transport network and killing at least 34 bought back powerful

:34:57.:34:59.

memories of the 7/7 attacks in London.

:35:00.:35:02.

Paul Dadge was caught up in the July 7th bombings -

:35:03.:35:04.

many of you will remember this image of him helping an injured passenger

:35:05.:35:07.

He says the attacks yesterday have bought back all the memories of 7/7.

:35:08.:35:19.

Thank you very much for coming on the programme. Are there specific

:35:20.:35:25.

moments that come back to you when you were watching the events

:35:26.:35:31.

unfolding yesterday? For me, it would be around the attacks in the

:35:32.:35:35.

tube station. Some of the images that have emerged are striking, in

:35:36.:35:40.

terms of the similarity from 7/7. Particularly of people making their

:35:41.:35:44.

way out of the tube network, the lights, the dark tunnel, with light

:35:45.:35:50.

in the distance, seeing people emerging from the front of a tube

:35:51.:35:56.

station, being cared for by paramedics. More so than any other

:35:57.:36:00.

attack on the last ten years, I would say, very similar, so

:36:01.:36:05.

striking. I have always been somebody who has been quite good at

:36:06.:36:12.

dealing with this, and I think yesterday was a down day for me, in

:36:13.:36:15.

terms of looking at the similarities, they were so much

:36:16.:36:19.

there, anger and frustration that these killings still go on. It's ten

:36:20.:36:26.

years, coming to 11 years later. Do you remember why you helped in the

:36:27.:36:30.

way that you helped on the 7th of July 2005? For me, it was a case of

:36:31.:36:36.

common sense. There were people injured and they needed assistance.

:36:37.:36:40.

At that point, there was very little resources on the ground to give that

:36:41.:36:44.

assistance. To me, it felt the right thing to do. I think you have come

:36:45.:36:48.

across people who did not do what you did, and feel enormous guilt?

:36:49.:36:54.

Yes, the world is full of... There are people that will help, people

:36:55.:36:57.

who want to help and people who would rather stay out of the way.

:36:58.:37:01.

Particularly the people that would like to help, I know a number of

:37:02.:37:04.

people that were quite badly affected, they wanted to help, but

:37:05.:37:07.

did not feel they were able to offer any assistance. They still feel

:37:08.:37:14.

those effects to this day. How have you dealt with what you experienced

:37:15.:37:20.

on that day since? By talking, mainly, to people that were involved

:37:21.:37:24.

in the attacks, not just at Edgware Road, but at other locations that

:37:25.:37:29.

were hit in London. We have quite a close-knit community of people that

:37:30.:37:33.

are involved, and we still keep in touch online. That has been linked

:37:34.:37:36.

with other attacks that have affected the British. So, what went

:37:37.:37:40.

on recently in Turkey, on the beaches in Turkey, that has now been

:37:41.:37:43.

brought into the online community. It doesn't necessarily have to be a

:37:44.:37:48.

terrorist attack, as long as people are able to talk to each other and

:37:49.:37:52.

share experiences. For me, personally, I have never had

:37:53.:37:55.

counselling, but I found it was a lot better to build a jigsaw of what

:37:56.:37:59.

happened. What kind of help and support did you get from those in

:38:00.:38:05.

authority? I guess in the aftermath of 7/7, the week or so afterwards, I

:38:06.:38:11.

was running on adrenaline for probably a week. I had a very big

:38:12.:38:20.

down, when I came down overnight, and there was a survivors and

:38:21.:38:23.

victims Centre setup, which was really good. I hope they have

:38:24.:38:26.

something similar in Brussels. People were able to meet up, people

:38:27.:38:32.

were able to talk councillors. I was talking about this before coming

:38:33.:38:36.

here, being able to have a massage, from somebody from the Red Cross,

:38:37.:38:41.

just to help you deal with what had gone on. That centre was so good for

:38:42.:38:48.

me, in terms of being able to find my way through the weeks after the

:38:49.:38:52.

bombing. What about later on, government help? The Government, the

:38:53.:38:57.

Labour government that were in power at the time, there were very good at

:38:58.:39:01.

supporting us. We had meetings with Lord Reed and Tessa Jowell, the

:39:02.:39:05.

Culture Secretary and the Defence Secretary at the time. He eventually

:39:06.:39:13.

became Home Secretary? Yes, a number of meetings with those. We keep in

:39:14.:39:20.

touch, especially with Tessa, who was at the memorial service last

:39:21.:39:30.

year and has done great work. Lord Reid is here. What kind of support

:39:31.:39:37.

did you give people, and why was that crucial from a government point

:39:38.:39:42.

of view? It is the government response validity to do what they

:39:43.:39:46.

can to protect citizens. In the event of something as traumatic as

:39:47.:39:49.

this, to do what they can to help those that are most affected, those

:39:50.:39:55.

that have lost loved ones, those that have survived, those who have

:39:56.:40:01.

been involved in the trauma, like Paul. That is part of the job of any

:40:02.:40:07.

caring government. Unfortunately, we can't guarantee, nor can any

:40:08.:40:10.

government, that this sort of thing won't happen. They have to be honest

:40:11.:40:23.

with the British people and tell them this will happen. The

:40:24.:40:26.

terrorists only have to get through once. The terrorists will get

:40:27.:40:36.

through. You are expecting another attack, another terrorist attack in

:40:37.:40:39.

this country at some point in the future? Yes, I am. I don't think

:40:40.:40:46.

that is a secret. As you know, we are at our second-highest level of

:40:47.:40:52.

threat, which is severe, which means a terrorist attack is likely. And

:40:53.:40:58.

Britain has been at that threat level for some time? When I was at

:40:59.:41:02.

Home Secretary, it was moved up to critical. That means that it is not

:41:03.:41:08.

only likely, we have information it is imminent. It is different in the

:41:09.:41:14.

UK from Belgium, and I think you raised some difficult issues in your

:41:15.:41:18.

previous interview. At a time like this, our first thought is for the

:41:19.:41:24.

victims, our condolences and solidarity with the nations and the

:41:25.:41:29.

individuals that have been affected. You have to have a delicate and

:41:30.:41:36.

difficult time raising the security issues. Belgium has had a degree of

:41:37.:41:44.

political instability. I think it is recognised that the intelligence

:41:45.:41:53.

services are integrated now. We use the police and their relationship

:41:54.:41:59.

with the intelligence services. On the ground, in the community, you

:42:00.:42:02.

can pick up some pretty vital information. I think we are quite

:42:03.:42:07.

well resourced. Having said all of that, there is no grounds for

:42:08.:42:12.

complacency. The terrorists will try to get through, they have changed

:42:13.:42:21.

back, in a sense, 7/7, which is what we would call an attack on a soft

:42:22.:42:26.

target, and then they went for some more difficult, but more spectacular

:42:27.:42:30.

attempts, for instance when I was Home Secretary they tried to bring

:42:31.:42:33.

down seven airliners simultaneously, which would have been 2500 victims.

:42:34.:42:41.

The success of the services has been such that they have gone back to

:42:42.:42:47.

soft targets. Mumbai style targets. You will notice that, in Brussels,

:42:48.:42:53.

it was an attack on the land side, not the air side. They did not have

:42:54.:42:58.

to go through security. The metro was very similar to the attacks on

:42:59.:43:03.

7/7. These types of attacks are much more difficult for intelligence

:43:04.:43:08.

agencies, police and so on to counter, because while I don't like

:43:09.:43:15.

the expression Lone Wolf, because nobody is a lone Wolf, they draw

:43:16.:43:20.

inspiration from an ideology, sometimes abroad, the community,

:43:21.:43:28.

gangs, sometimes in prison, they are not on their own, but they are less

:43:29.:43:31.

detailed in their orders and communication, and contact with a

:43:32.:43:37.

central body abroad. It makes it much more difficult to counter. I

:43:38.:43:42.

want to ask your views, you will have heard overnight Nigel Farage,

:43:43.:43:47.

of Ukip, suggesting that the free movement of people across Europe is

:43:48.:43:53.

free movement of Kalashnikovs. What do you make of a comment like that?

:43:54.:44:00.

It is very difficult to discuss this rationally in the context of both a

:44:01.:44:04.

European referendum and the tragedy that has happened. As far as

:44:05.:44:15.

Schengen is concerned... That is the passport free area, which we are not

:44:16.:44:21.

an member of? Doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out that, if, at the

:44:22.:44:26.

borders of Europe, you have porous holes, where people can come abroad,

:44:27.:44:31.

and you have an extant threat that wants to put people in, and you have

:44:32.:44:38.

28 nations in Schengen that reduce the border controls of that nation,

:44:39.:44:44.

it must increase the threat. That is why so many of the nations of Europe

:44:45.:44:50.

have suspended their Schengen operations. So you agree with Nigel

:44:51.:44:56.

Farage, perhaps not in his terms? I'm eating a point of view, I'm not

:44:57.:45:01.

agreeing with any particular politician, Michael Howard, previous

:45:02.:45:03.

Home Secretary, Nigel Farage or anybody else, I am stating the

:45:04.:45:10.

obvious, if you have no internal border controls, it must be more

:45:11.:45:13.

difficult to stop the movement of people. The thing is designed to

:45:14.:45:18.

increase the movement of people, with less bureaucracy and less

:45:19.:45:25.

checks. On the other hand, European sharing of information here is an

:45:26.:45:30.

advantage, the European arrest warrant is an advantage. So there

:45:31.:45:33.

are checks and balances on this. I would say that, and I have, long

:45:34.:45:38.

before you raise the question in the House of Lords, I said that the

:45:39.:45:45.

Schengen system has to be modified. As a principle, it is a good

:45:46.:45:50.

principle for the European Union. In today's conditions, we had to ask

:45:51.:45:52.

the question as to whether or not, thank goodness we are not in it, of

:45:53.:45:56.

course, we are not in the eurozone, we are not in Schengen, but there

:45:57.:46:01.

are other things we need to do. We need far more intelligence sharing

:46:02.:46:04.

throughout Europe. What we tend to find is that after an incident,

:46:05.:46:09.

people put in intelligence. It should be continually. At the

:46:10.:46:14.

moment, most of our intelligence is shared with what they call the five

:46:15.:46:19.

eyes, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United States and the

:46:20.:46:23.

UK. We have defined mechanisms for putting more of that in. When Euro

:46:24.:46:29.

poll tells us that of the five estimated returning the ball from

:46:30.:46:37.

Syria, they only have details on 40% of them. Belgium has, per capita,

:46:38.:46:45.

more jihadists going abroad than any other country in Europe. That is...

:46:46.:46:55.

I think we are well placed in terms of the energies and efforts of the

:46:56.:46:59.

intelligence services, police, community engagement, but, at the

:47:00.:47:03.

end of the day, nobody can guarantee 100% success and, unfortunately, my

:47:04.:47:08.

view is that tragedies like this are likely to happen, and therefore

:47:09.:47:11.

politicians have to be honest with people and tell them that this will

:47:12.:47:15.

be a very long struggle. This is a generational struggle will stop Isis

:47:16.:47:20.

May come and go, Al-Qaeda might come and go, but this is happening

:47:21.:47:24.

throughout the world. It will come here as well as other places. We

:47:25.:47:29.

have to be as resolute as we can in saying we will not allow this to

:47:30.:47:32.

destroy our way of life and democracy.

:47:33.:47:36.

Thank you very much Lord Reed now chair for the Institute of Security

:47:37.:47:45.

and resilience studies and thank you Paul for joining us.

:47:46.:47:51.

This is what we know so far about the latest from Brussels. Belgian

:47:52.:47:57.

media have named two of the men who carried out the attacks at the

:47:58.:48:02.

airport as Khalid and Brahim el-Bakraoui who were brothers who

:48:03.:48:05.

lived in Brussels. Local reports say the pair were known to the police.

:48:06.:48:10.

It's believed at least one of the brothers was seen in that CCTV image

:48:11.:48:15.

at Brussels International Airport. There were earlier reports that both

:48:16.:48:18.

brothers were in the picture but it's now thought that there was just

:48:19.:48:20.

one. Both are believed to have died in

:48:21.:48:24.

the attacks at the airport and Metro.

:48:25.:48:27.

A third man, thought to be involved in the airport bombings, who is

:48:28.:48:32.

still on the run, has been named by state media as Najim Lachraoui. Twin

:48:33.:48:36.

explosions at the airport and another at a Metro station yesterday

:48:37.:48:41.

left around 34 people dead and 250 people hurt.

:48:42.:48:46.

So-called Islamic state says it was behind the attacks and warned that

:48:47.:48:50.

more would follow. Belgium is observing three days of

:48:51.:48:54.

national mourning and a minutes' silence for the victims will be held

:48:55.:48:56.

at midday which is 11 o'clock here. So why was Brussels,

:48:57.:49:02.

the capital of Belgium, attacked? The country has struggled

:49:03.:49:05.

with Islamist groups for years and hundreds of its citizens have

:49:06.:49:07.

gone to fight for so-called Several cities have been known

:49:08.:49:10.

to contain Islamist cells, but the most active have been

:49:11.:49:16.

in Brussels and in the south-western suburb of Molenbeek in particular -

:49:17.:49:19.

an area with a high ethnic Several of the bombers and gunmen

:49:20.:49:24.

who targeted Paris last November, killing 130 people, had been

:49:25.:49:29.

living in Molenbeek. The main suspect not to die

:49:30.:49:32.

in the Paris attacks, Salah Abdeslam, returned to Belgium

:49:33.:49:37.

the day afterwards and managed He and an accomplice

:49:38.:49:43.

were captured alive, We can talk now to Jef Van Damme,

:49:44.:49:49.

MP for the Molenbeek district, Evegenia Gvozdeva, a counter

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terrorism expert, and journalist Tim King who has spent time looking

:49:57.:50:07.

at extemism in Belgium. Jeff, how have so many extremists

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been able to thrive in Molenbeek? The ambassador has explained quite

:50:32.:50:36.

well that this is a multilayered problem and therefore the solution

:50:37.:50:40.

will also be multilayered. After these attacks, we all want to point

:50:41.:50:45.

something or someone as the cause, as the solution to this problem, but

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I think unfortunately, there is not one single answer to what happened

:50:52.:50:55.

yesterday and there is not one single cause that explains what

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happens yesterday. There are some elements that are coming back all

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the time and I... Can I just interrupt you Mr Van Damme. It's

:51:10.:51:14.

being reported by Reuters that a Belgian newspaper is saying that the

:51:15.:51:21.

failed airport bomber, Najim Lachraoui, has been arrested,

:51:22.:51:24.

unconfirmed. Reuters are reporting that one Belgian newspaper says that

:51:25.:51:28.

Najim Lachraoui, who is thought to be the failed airport bomber, the

:51:29.:51:33.

man in the photograph wearing the hat and spectacles, they say that

:51:34.:51:37.

he's been arrested in Brussels. If that is the case, how would you

:51:38.:51:40.

react? Well, that would be very good news,

:51:41.:51:45.

that would be a relief and I really hope it's true. But I think even if

:51:46.:51:51.

it's true, that doesn't necessarily mean that this will be the end of

:51:52.:51:57.

everything as we have seen with the rest of Islam. It doesn't mean that

:51:58.:52:02.

because you get one terrorist that there will not be others trying to

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do the same so we have to remain vigilant in any case. There's a lot

:52:09.:52:12.

of measures to be taken in the future to avoid these kinds of

:52:13.:52:15.

things as much as possible to happen in the future. Tim, I think you

:52:16.:52:20.

believe it's because of the way the Government is structured that

:52:21.:52:24.

Belgium has a problem with extremists? I've been writing

:52:25.:52:30.

something about the preconditions of the Belgian state on top of which we

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then get this, as the ambassador was saying, relatively modern phenomenon

:52:37.:52:43.

of an extremely radical violent form of Jihadis. I have talked about the

:52:44.:52:51.

dysfunctionalties of the Belgian state and so made myself slightly

:52:52.:52:59.

unpopular in this country. One hesitates at a moment of deep grief

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and pain to dwell on this too much. One basic point explain to your

:53:06.:53:12.

viewers is that, because of Belgium's early industrialation,

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second industrial nation after Britain, with a big coal and steel

:53:16.:53:23.

industry, in the post-war period, the coal and steel industries went

:53:24.:53:28.

down to the Mediterranean to get labour for the mine and the steel

:53:29.:53:32.

industry. So they went to North Africa as well as the south of Italy

:53:33.:53:40.

which is why this immigrant community starts off in Belgium and

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then develops in parts of Brussels. And you believe the Government of

:53:52.:53:55.

Belgium never really believed they would be attacked? They did and we

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should know that over the past weeks and months, there was high concern

:54:02.:54:07.

and there were reports and signals about imminent terrorist attacks. We

:54:08.:54:14.

should still go back to November 2015 just to Remind of the threat.

:54:15.:54:24.

There was information about imminent threats of large scale terrorist

:54:25.:54:32.

attacks that could tackle or could attack public transport

:54:33.:54:36.

infrastructures. Since then, there were numerous signals and numerous

:54:37.:54:43.

reports and of course, Counter-Terrorism operations in a

:54:44.:54:48.

district last week and arrest of Salah Abdeslam in the Molenbeek

:54:49.:54:51.

district on Friday, they accelerated an investigation but at the same

:54:52.:54:57.

time they accelerated also other terrorist members to attack.

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Sorry, to act. Yes. Mr Van Damme what are you going to do and what

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should the Government do to stop the radicalisation going on in certain

:55:10.:55:13.

suburbs of Brussels? Well, I think it's very important to

:55:14.:55:17.

point out there are two elements in this that are very important to

:55:18.:55:23.

distinguish. There is the repressive part that is to find out where the

:55:24.:55:28.

terrorists are, what their plans are, thousand we can counter them

:55:29.:55:32.

and deal with them. That is one element and that's mostly the

:55:33.:55:35.

Security Services that should properly deal with that. On the

:55:36.:55:39.

other hand, we have a problem of, how do people get there, how do they

:55:40.:55:45.

radicalise, how do we prevent them from becoming a terrorist and I

:55:46.:55:51.

think the main concern for the long-term is there, it's trying to

:55:52.:55:57.

stop and to avoid young people from Brussels or from Belgium

:55:58.:56:01.

radicalising and turning against their own society. That is the main

:56:02.:56:03.

challenge ahead and that is something that is going to take a

:56:04.:56:09.

long time to solve because it's a multi-layered problem that needs

:56:10.:56:14.

multi-layered solutions. That's where the dysfunctionalties of

:56:15.:56:18.

Belgian state woman in because you've got different parts of the

:56:19.:56:21.

Government structure, local government, regional government and

:56:22.:56:24.

federal government and then divisions across the language

:56:25.:56:30.

barriers who're responsible for, for instance, education and very

:56:31.:56:33.

important in Counter-Terrorism, tackling poverty, housing, all these

:56:34.:56:38.

are different layers of the Government, just as the local police

:56:39.:56:44.

are too far removed from the regional police, the Federal Police

:56:45.:56:48.

and the security and Intelligence Services, as Lord Reid was alluding

:56:49.:56:52.

to earlier. Evegina, I don't know if you have seen the reports I've seen

:56:53.:56:56.

which suggest that members of the Islamic state group in Syria were

:56:57.:57:01.

celebrating the attacks yesterday by handing out sweets to children? Yes,

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exactly. We had since yesterday numerous messages of support that

:57:08.:57:12.

were shared by Islamic state supporters from all across the

:57:13.:57:18.

world, praising the attacks and urging for further attacks. There

:57:19.:57:22.

were calls for further large scale attacks similar to those who

:57:23.:57:27.

targeted Brussels and there were also calls for loan wolf attacks --

:57:28.:57:34.

lone wolf attacks for those Jihadis not linked to any other terrorist

:57:35.:57:38.

network, just to go on to the street and attack other people. Thank you

:57:39.:57:42.

all so much and thank you for being patient, I really appreciate your

:57:43.:57:43.

time this morning, thank you. A fairly cloudy day and mostly dry.

:57:44.:58:02.

There is rain in Northern Ireland and across parts of western

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Scotland. You can see the amount of cloud we have. One or two breaks

:58:06.:58:09.

currently still across the south. As we go through the day, the cloud

:58:10.:58:13.

will build and the breaks will fill in. Rain coming across western

:58:14.:58:18.

Scotland and Northern Ireland won't be particularly heavy. As it add

:58:19.:58:24.

Juanses east, it brightens up behind it with bright spells is and some

:58:25.:58:26.

showers. It won't be particularly cold in the

:58:27.:58:35.

south. In East Anglia, through the Midlands, into Wales, again a lot of

:58:36.:58:38.

cloud with own or two brighter breaks. In northern England, a bit

:58:39.:58:42.

of drizzle in the north-west but largely cloudy. As the rain clears,

:58:43.:58:46.

some sunshine and showers coming in behind in Northern Ireland and here

:58:47.:58:49.

is the band of rain moving from the west towards the east across

:58:50.:58:53.

Scotland. That will continue to move towards the North Sea through the

:58:54.:58:56.

evening and overnight period, as a weak feature. Where we have some

:58:57.:59:00.

breaks in the cloud, you will tend to find they are going to fill

:59:01.:59:05.

through the night as the next system comes our way. This heralds a

:59:06.:59:11.

change, bringing heavier rain and also stronger winds that many of us

:59:12.:59:15.

haven't seen for a wee while. That will continue to move south-east.

:59:16.:59:19.

Not getting into the far south-east until much, much later on. Behind

:59:20.:59:23.

it, a return to bright spells and also some more showers.

:59:24.:59:27.

As we head through the rest of Thursday and intoo Good Friday, the

:59:28.:59:31.

weather front bearing that rain, very slowly pushes on to the near

:59:32.:59:35.

continent. High pressure builds in behind, so many of us on Good Friday

:59:36.:59:39.

will see a fair bit of sunshine. It will be a pleasant day. Later on,

:59:40.:59:42.

you can see what is happening in the west. Our next Atlantic system

:59:43.:59:47.

coming our way introducing wet and windy weather.

:59:48.:59:52.

In the east, we start off on a dry and bright note but we have got the

:59:53.:59:55.

wet and windy weather coming our way from the west to the east. Coastal

:59:56.:00:00.

gales are also likely. That moves away during the course of Easter

:00:01.:00:04.

Sunday. Bright skies but then we've got more rain and showers coming in

:00:05.:00:05.

from the west. Hello it's Wednesday,

:00:06.:00:15.

it's 10 o'clock. I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:16.:00:17.

welcome to the programme if you've There have been unconfirmed reports

:00:18.:00:27.

that a man suspected of being involved in Brussels terrorist

:00:28.:00:30.

attacks yesterday has arrested. He is called Najim Laachraoui unbeknown

:00:31.:00:35.

associate of the man arrested after the Paris attacks, Salah Abdeslam.

:00:36.:00:44.

Brussels is in mourning, with tributes coming for the 34 people

:00:45.:00:47.

murdered in those attacks on the airport and metro system. One of the

:00:48.:00:51.

victims is named as a Peruvian mother of twin four-year-old girls.

:00:52.:01:03.

Let's bring you the latest news. We're getting reports that the prime

:01:04.:01:13.

suspect in yesterday's bombings yesterday, Najim Laachraoui, has

:01:14.:01:15.

been arrested. A Belgian newspaper says he was detained in the

:01:16.:01:22.

Anderlecht district. That is only one unconfirmed report, but we will

:01:23.:01:28.

bring you more when we get it. His accomplices have been named as two

:01:29.:01:31.

brothers, Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui, who lived in the city

:01:32.:01:34.

and died at the blast Sydney airport. Belgium is observing three

:01:35.:01:38.

days of national mourning and a minute's silence will be held in

:01:39.:01:40.

just under an hour. The Foreign Office has warned

:01:41.:01:56.

Britons travelling to Belgium to remain vigilant and stay away from

:01:57.:02:00.

crowded areas. Concern has been expressed about David Dixon, an IT

:02:01.:02:04.

programmer from Nottingham, who is missing.

:02:05.:02:06.

David Cameron has chaired a meeting of the government's emergency Cobra

:02:07.:02:09.

committee this morning to consider how the UK should respond

:02:10.:02:11.

He said that UK security have been stepped up in the wake of a very

:02:12.:02:19.

real terror threat across Europe. Theresa May will make a statement in

:02:20.:02:20.

the Commons at lunchtime. A review examining how

:02:21.:02:23.

South Yorkshire Police dealt with allegations of child sexual

:02:24.:02:25.

exploitation says a lack of interest by senior officers led to repeated

:02:26.:02:28.

failures to investigate. The force says it's made significant

:02:29.:02:30.

progress in tackling exploitation and grooming but it accepts that

:02:31.:02:33.

more needs to be done. Previous reports have detailed

:02:34.:02:37.

the scale of the abuse The frontrunners in the races

:02:38.:02:39.

for the US Republican and Democratic presidential nominations

:02:40.:02:46.

have won their parties' It makes it more likely it will be

:02:47.:02:47.

Hillary Clinton facing Donald Trump at the presidential

:02:48.:02:53.

election in November. But it wasn't a clean sweep

:02:54.:02:55.

for either of them - they look likely to lose

:02:56.:02:58.

their caucuses in Utah - where Ted Cruz and Bernie

:02:59.:03:00.

Sanders hold clear leads. The future of BHS is being decided

:03:01.:03:05.

today, as creditors vote Without an agreement,

:03:06.:03:08.

the loss making retailer may go into administration,

:03:09.:03:13.

putting more than 10,000 jobs The firm also has a pensions

:03:14.:03:15.

deficit of ?571 million. That is a summary of the latest

:03:16.:03:35.

news, Moore at 10:30am. Time for the sport, and the women's Super League

:03:36.:03:41.

season? It kicks off tonight, Manchester

:03:42.:03:52.

City player Notts County. Manchester City's Izzy Christiansen is with us.

:03:53.:03:56.

The first thing we have to mention is this, you have your foot in a

:03:57.:04:00.

boot. You're supposed to be playing tonight, against Notts County. What

:04:01.:04:05.

happened? I suffered an ankle injury in Saturday evening's game against

:04:06.:04:09.

Liverpool. Unfortunately, it has ruled me out for a month or two. I

:04:10.:04:13.

am devastated not to be involved, but very excited to watch and see if

:04:14.:04:18.

kick off tonight. Cruel as well, apparently nobody was around you, it

:04:19.:04:25.

was an accident you did on your own? Yes, feeling sorry for myself. It is

:04:26.:04:31.

part and parcel of the game. It is a case of refocusing my mind.

:04:32.:04:37.

Manchester City were second last season, a really exciting season.

:04:38.:04:40.

How are you going to do this time around? Again, a very exciting

:04:41.:04:47.

campaign to start us off tonight. It is a case of starting off well and

:04:48.:04:52.

we finish very strongly last season, we are confident in the team, the

:04:53.:04:56.

squad we have, the way that we play. I think, come the end of the season,

:04:57.:05:00.

I would like to think we would be up there as title contenders. A lot of

:05:01.:05:06.

new signings, especially foreign signings, which will make it more

:05:07.:05:10.

exciting. Who has benefited most from those signings? Each team has

:05:11.:05:17.

looked to strengthen. That is part and parcel of football. Each team

:05:18.:05:21.

will look to strengthen through the season. We have done well in

:05:22.:05:24.

recruiting a couple of girls from abroad. They fit the profile that we

:05:25.:05:31.

want to employ at Manchester City. They are settling in well and we are

:05:32.:05:34.

excited to see how they will perform this season. Chelsea are the

:05:35.:05:38.

champions and favourites to do it again. How will they be stopped?

:05:39.:05:43.

Well, there is no taking away, Chelsea are a very talented team.

:05:44.:05:46.

They have an exceptionally fierce front line. I think they will be

:05:47.:05:53.

stopped through hard work and dedication. Their front line are

:05:54.:05:58.

very creative. It will be an exciting season, I'm excited to

:05:59.:06:03.

watch everybody performing at the highest level. We are seeing them

:06:04.:06:07.

getting the trophy last season. The fixtures, a lot of people in the

:06:08.:06:11.

game talking about the fixtures. There are 19 is, two new ones,

:06:12.:06:16.

Doncaster and Reading coming into the league. When it gets exciting,

:06:17.:06:20.

you will be sat down again, Manchester City don't have a game on

:06:21.:06:24.

the last day of the season, people are saying the fixtures, with two or

:06:25.:06:28.

three-week brakes had not been well thought out? I think the FA are

:06:29.:06:35.

doing lots of work behind the scenes to progress women's football. The

:06:36.:06:39.

fact there are an odd number of teams in the league is a sign of

:06:40.:06:44.

progression for me as a player. It means there two more games to play

:06:45.:06:47.

in. As a player, that is what you want. Moving forward, I hope that

:06:48.:06:52.

the hard work will culminate into a larger league and more expansive

:06:53.:07:03.

league. So, in the end, it's a good thing, the expansion of the league.

:07:04.:07:08.

OK, the fixtures are a bit of a mess, but in the end, it is for the

:07:09.:07:16.

good of the game. OK, thank you. The women's Super League starts tonight,

:07:17.:07:20.

Manchester City against Notts County. Chelsea are in action, they

:07:21.:07:24.

kick off their season tomorrow night.

:07:25.:07:32.

They took away everything, the words of the husband of one of the women

:07:33.:07:39.

killed in the attacks yesterday. Adelma Tapia Ruiz is the first

:07:40.:07:45.

victim to be named. She was 37 and from proof. Her husband and twin

:07:46.:07:49.

four-year-old daughters were unhurt, because they left the area any

:07:50.:07:52.

airport moments before bombs detonated. -- from Peru row. Here's

:07:53.:08:04.

a recap of our events unfolded yesterday.

:08:05.:08:15.

People started panicking and running.

:08:16.:08:19.

The only thing I saw was just dust in the

:08:20.:08:22.

There were some announcements that something had gone wrong.

:08:23.:08:30.

The woman's voice was like quite shaken

:08:31.:08:34.

on the intercom and that's when I know we should move.

:08:35.:08:42.

No, but I walked through a mess, glass, metal, smoke,

:08:43.:08:48.

We had to walk through puddles and we were

:08:49.:08:52.

And we heard some thudding in the distance.

:08:53.:09:18.

After a few minutes someone came and had us evacuate on to the tracks

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TRANSLATION: This tragic moment, this black moment in our country,

:09:43.:09:44.

never before, I would like to call on everybody to show

:09:45.:09:47.

These are difficult times, these are appalling terrorists,

:09:48.:09:56.

but we must stand together to do everything we can to stop them

:09:57.:09:59.

and to make sure that, although they attack our way

:10:00.:10:01.

of life, they attack us because of who they are,

:10:02.:10:04.

TRANSLATION: The terrorists have struck Belgium, but it is Europe

:10:05.:10:09.

It is the whole world which is concerned with this.

:10:10.:10:48.

Ben Brown is in the centre of Brussels, where people have been

:10:49.:10:56.

paying tribute. What is the latest? In the last hour or so, quite

:10:57.:11:02.

dramatic news has been coming to us. It is not confirmed, but is running

:11:03.:11:05.

on a local newspaper's website, that the third suspect has been arrested

:11:06.:11:15.

in the Anderlecht area of Brussels. This is Najim Laachraoui. You might

:11:16.:11:19.

remember that yesterday there was a CCTV imagery released by the police,

:11:20.:11:24.

which showed three suspects walking into the departure hall at the

:11:25.:11:28.

airport. One of them is believed to have escaped and not detonated his

:11:29.:11:33.

device. A third device was found unexploded and was dealt with by the

:11:34.:11:37.

security forces. The two other suspects blew themselves up. These

:11:38.:11:42.

were brothers, Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui. It seems they blew

:11:43.:11:46.

themselves up, and those two bombs did explode. The third suspect

:11:47.:11:51.

escaped. The word is that he has been arrested. We have not had that

:11:52.:11:56.

confirmed. Interestingly, he was already being hunted in the wake of

:11:57.:12:00.

the Paris attacks, according to local media. His DNA, in fact, this

:12:01.:12:05.

man, Najim Laachraoui, his DNA was found in one of the houses used by

:12:06.:12:10.

some of the attackers. It is thought that he had travelled to Hungary

:12:11.:12:17.

last year with Salah Abdeslam, the 26-year-old arrested in Brussels

:12:18.:12:20.

last Friday. He had been hunted in connection with the Paris attacks

:12:21.:12:23.

for four months. He was effectively the most wanted man in Europe.

:12:24.:12:31.

Because he was arrested, in custody and being interrogated, perhaps his

:12:32.:12:34.

accomplices might have thought they were going to be exposed. They

:12:35.:12:38.

carried out yesterday's attacks may be sooner than they were

:12:39.:12:40.

anticipating, because they were worried he was going to blue Ali

:12:41.:12:48.

blow their cover. It is a very complicated picture that they have

:12:49.:12:52.

been trying to grapple with, both after Paris and in the wake of the

:12:53.:12:59.

attacks. Let me show you the scene here. I remember talking to you

:13:00.:13:08.

after the Paris attacks, it is like the memorial that appeared after

:13:09.:13:11.

those attacks. People have been coming through the night, lighting

:13:12.:13:16.

candles, leaving flowers, leaving messages. In short, in yellow, you

:13:17.:13:29.

might not be able to see it, it says #respondwithlight, which I think is

:13:30.:13:34.

a good way of putting how the Belgian people feel they need to

:13:35.:13:38.

respond, as happened after the Paris attacks, with hope, optimism and a

:13:39.:13:42.

sense they have to defeat terrorism, they cannot let them destroy their

:13:43.:13:47.

way of life. I am just going to walk you through the crowd, beginning to

:13:48.:13:58.

gather. This is the memorial scene. Again, a larger memorial. There are

:13:59.:14:08.

more candles here at plaster -- the square. Another says, we are all

:14:09.:14:12.

human, a message to the bombers. A very sombre scene. Actually, later,

:14:13.:14:21.

at 11 o'clock, your time, midday, our time, there will be a minutes

:14:22.:14:25.

silence here and across Belgium in memory of the dead and also the

:14:26.:14:34.

wounded. It is 31, we think, maybe 260 injured. If you look up there,

:14:35.:14:42.

towards the fence behind me, you can see the Belgian flag draped on the

:14:43.:14:57.

fence. A message on the red flag, united against hatred. We saw all of

:14:58.:15:01.

that solidarity around Europe and around the world, with Paris and the

:15:02.:15:11.

French flag was projected onto monuments around the world. After

:15:12.:15:15.

this attack, the Belgian flag has been projected onto the Eiffel

:15:16.:15:19.

Tower, and other famous landmarks around Europe. The Brandenburg gate

:15:20.:15:24.

in Germany, for example, the Trevi Fountain in Rome.

:15:25.:15:34.

Again, international tragedy. I feel almost depressed, covering a story

:15:35.:15:41.

like this, because I was in Tunisia after the attack on the beach, where

:15:42.:15:45.

so many British citizens lost their lives, and in Paris after that

:15:46.:15:51.

attack. Here we are, once again, standing in a city which has been

:15:52.:15:55.

traumatised, frankly. That is the only word for it. The people in

:15:56.:16:01.

Brussels and Belgium, many of them have come to pay tribute this

:16:02.:16:08.

morning, but I think they had been perhaps expecting and bracing

:16:09.:16:10.

themselves for a terrorist attack after the attacks we saw in Paris.

:16:11.:16:13.

There were so many connections between the Paris attacks and

:16:14.:16:18.

Brussels. So many of the trails from the Paris attacks led to Brussels

:16:19.:16:29.

and the Molenbeek district in particular. Security had been raised

:16:30.:16:33.

to a high level. When it happened yesterday, there was still immense

:16:34.:16:38.

shock and anger, and nervousness that there could be more attacks as

:16:39.:16:40.

well. People now, as you can see, holding

:16:41.:16:49.

hands. As we pan the camera round, you can see a little bit more to

:16:50.:16:54.

your right there, you can see that people are holding hands, I suppose

:16:55.:16:58.

just trying to come to terms with what has happened here and joining

:16:59.:17:05.

together in this sort of gesture of solidarity amidst their shock. As I

:17:06.:17:11.

say, a sense of fear, a sense of nervousness here in Brussels but

:17:12.:17:14.

also a bit of a sense of defiance. You can see people lifting their

:17:15.:17:21.

arms now and I think they're trying to say that the terrorists will not

:17:22.:17:26.

win here, that they won't destroy a way of life. Again, this was the

:17:27.:17:31.

response that we saw after the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris at

:17:32.:17:36.

the beginning of last year and then the November attacks that were even

:17:37.:17:41.

more deadly that killed 130 people. Now these attacks here in Brussels.

:17:42.:17:49.

They have killed at least 31 people. Terrorism now and the brand of

:17:50.:17:58.

terrorism, of terror that so-called Islamic state with pedalling is

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something that Europe is having to come to terms with and having to

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learn to live with. But this is the response this morning.

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People you can see of all ethnic backgrounds, all religions, or of no

:18:09.:18:18.

religion perhaps, coming together because they want to send out a

:18:19.:18:26.

message to the world that terror attacks like the ones we saw

:18:27.:18:29.

yesterday, the two bombs at Brussels International Airport, followed an

:18:30.:18:35.

hour later by the bomb at Maelbeek Metro station that was even more

:18:36.:18:41.

deadly that killed some 20 people and injured

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They feel like they have been living in fear and their lives have been

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put on hold. We can speak to some residents of Brussels.

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Let's talk to some residents in Brussels.

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Elivien Chiau, Selma Franssen, Natalia Aerts Lopez and Adam Hall

:19:55.:19:57.

who been living in Brussels for 10 years, who's a professional

:19:58.:19:59.

basketball player and whose close friend was injured by the bombs

:20:00.:20:04.

I went to plaster -- Place de la Bourse yesterday, we went and sang,

:20:05.:20:58.

just to let people know that we will not be defeated by this, Brussels

:20:59.:21:03.

will still be united, even though all of these things happened. Which

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are, of course, terrible, but we want to say the terrorists will not

:21:12.:21:16.

win. I think he went down to the city centre yesterday, is that

:21:17.:21:20.

right? Yes, I went to the city centre. I was trying to give blood,

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because there were news messages asking people to come and give

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blood. In the end, they only had a lack of oh negative. For the rest, I

:21:32.:21:40.

spend my day hanging around in the city centre. Then I just spent time

:21:41.:21:46.

at home, trying to reach family, talk to friends. Just trying to be

:21:47.:21:55.

chill. Do you feel afraid, or pragmatic? I think pragmatic, I am

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not afraid. I think we were expecting these bombings already, a

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couple of years ago. I am also not angry. I think the only time I felt

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angry was when there were bomb attacks in Madrid. This time, I am

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not angry, frightened. I think I am quite at ease with it. I am really

:22:17.:22:21.

sad about what happened, but I am not being hysterical. I think I am

:22:22.:22:29.

quite pragmatic about it. Adam, what happened to your friend, Sebastien,

:22:30.:22:37.

and how is he now? Late last night I heard he was going into his second

:22:38.:22:40.

surgery, doing well, but in a lot of pain. For me, the hard part was his

:22:41.:22:46.

family, his wife in the USA, his kids, who had no idea what was going

:22:47.:22:51.

on in Belgium, they were trying to relay messages through third parties

:22:52.:22:54.

to find out what was going on, where is he being held, what hospital is

:22:55.:22:59.

he in? We finally got word where he was located. That was the hard part.

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Seeing the images, when I woke up, I thought, is this a joke? It was

:23:05.:23:10.

really just sad, to think one of your friends is hurt, and it could

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be even worse, and other people I might know could be injured. You

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never think something like that could happen. Like the young lady

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said, we were expecting this for months, that something could happen

:23:22.:23:25.

in Belgium. We did not know where. So it was still a shock when it

:23:26.:23:29.

happened. I think a lot of people expected it, with the military

:23:30.:23:33.

walking around the streets for the last four or five months. Everybody

:23:34.:23:37.

was on edge, nobody knew where or how it would happen. Did Sebastien's

:23:38.:23:42.

wife, did she find out what had happened to him? By seeing a

:23:43.:23:48.

photograph of him? Is that the first she knew? That is the first I knew.

:23:49.:23:52.

They are in Michigan, the time difference is long. I have been

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calling my mother and dad, to let them know before they see the

:24:00.:24:03.

images, I am OK, my daughter is OK. Another colleague in New York, he

:24:04.:24:08.

hid from a friend in Asia, he didn't know anything about it until the

:24:09.:24:10.

people in Asia told him, because of the time difference. I think a lot

:24:11.:24:16.

of people in the US hand-out from pictures or social media, and the

:24:17.:24:20.

first thing they saw was people being bombed and injured. There have

:24:21.:24:26.

been soldiers on the streets for a while now. Is that reassuring? No,

:24:27.:24:38.

not to me. To me, it is actually more like... It gives you a strange

:24:39.:24:44.

feeling, that there are soldiers walking around. Also, they have been

:24:45.:24:53.

there for months. At this point, I barely noticed them any more. It's

:24:54.:25:01.

so normal, almost. In the beginning, it is strange, you think, what is

:25:02.:25:06.

going on? Is it really necessary that they are here? At one point, it

:25:07.:25:11.

becomes quite normal that they are there. It doesn't really make me

:25:12.:25:18.

feel better when I see all of the soldiers. Not at all. Natalia, are

:25:19.:25:28.

you a Belgian citizen who believes that your government should have

:25:29.:25:36.

been doing more? Well, I think... What could have been done more? I

:25:37.:25:41.

don't know. I really don't know if they could have done more. Maybe

:25:42.:25:46.

they should actually have dogs sniffing for TNT? That is a way of

:25:47.:25:55.

testing if there is on the airport or the metro somebody carrying

:25:56.:25:58.

something dangerous, instead of having the military. Maybe that is

:25:59.:26:02.

something they could add to security. But I am not an expert.

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The capture of one of the men, we knew that something was going to go

:26:44.:26:53.

down. We wish you all the best, thank you for talking to us.

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A British man who lived in Brussels is one of those missing. David

:27:01.:27:05.

Dixon, who works in IT, has not been in touch with his partner since the

:27:06.:27:10.

attacks. His partner has been carrying out a heartbreaking tour of

:27:11.:27:14.

the city hospitals in the hope of finding him. David Dixon is thought

:27:15.:27:17.

to have been on the metro when the bomb exploded yesterday. We can talk

:27:18.:27:23.

to Philip Dixon, David's cousin. Thank you for talking to us. Have

:27:24.:27:29.

you had any news from David's partner? Not at the moment. I have

:27:30.:27:37.

spoken to my parents, we are in Holland at the moment. My parents

:27:38.:27:45.

spoke to Charlotte this morning, but she is still waiting on news. She

:27:46.:27:50.

has been around the hospitals, still no news. As far as you know, what

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were his movements yesterday morning? As far as I'm aware, just

:27:57.:28:03.

his normal working day. He took the metro to work. Unfortunately, it

:28:04.:28:09.

looks like he could have been on this metro train at the time of the

:28:10.:28:15.

bombing yesterday. Charlotte tried phoning work, and he did not turn up

:28:16.:28:19.

for work yesterday morning. We are fearing the worst at the moment.

:28:20.:28:24.

Absolutely unimaginable, actually, what your family must be going

:28:25.:28:30.

through. In terms of Charlotte, she has been to the hospitals, what are

:28:31.:28:34.

her options, what help is she getting from the British Consulate?

:28:35.:28:41.

Yes, they are working alongside Charlotte, going around the

:28:42.:28:49.

hospitals. There is a lot of social media out there. We are just hoping,

:28:50.:28:53.

his picture is being distributed everywhere, hopefully somebody knows

:28:54.:28:57.

where he is at and he is safe and well. Has the family been asked for

:28:58.:29:02.

any particular information by the authorities in Brussels? Yesterday

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evening, worst case scenario, they have asked for his dental

:29:10.:29:18.

information, just in case. OK. We wish you all the best. Thank you

:29:19.:29:25.

very much for talking to us. Philip Dixon, cousin of the missing British

:29:26.:29:33.

man David Dixon. He went to work as normal yesterday and, as you heard

:29:34.:29:37.

his cousin explaining, he has not been heard from since. His partner,

:29:38.:29:43.

Charlotte, going around hospitals in Brussels desperately trying to find

:29:44.:29:46.

him. Let's bring you the latest news.

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Reports in the last 30 minutes claim the prime suspect in yesterday's

:29:51.:30:00.

bombings in yesterday's bombings, Najim Laachraoui, may have been

:30:01.:30:04.

arrested. Here is Richard Lister. Three phases in a busy airport. It

:30:05.:30:08.

is thought their trolleys were carrying bombs. These men are

:30:09.:30:11.

reported to be Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui, black gloves thought to

:30:12.:30:16.

conceal detonators, suicide bombers about to strike. This man fled the

:30:17.:30:20.

scene. Belgian media named him as Najim Laachraoui. Unconfirmed

:30:21.:30:27.

reports say he has been arrested. This is what they left behind at one

:30:28.:30:33.

of Europe's's busiest airports. You have to go outside! But there was

:30:34.:30:38.

more, a second bombing at a major metro station. These commuters were

:30:39.:30:41.

caught underground when the train ahead blew up, a lovely, if

:30:42.:30:50.

terrifying escape. -- a lucky, if terrifying escape. Police raided a

:30:51.:30:55.

flat, uncovering a nail bomb, chemicals and the flag of the

:30:56.:31:00.

so-called Islamic State. Brussels is a city on edge, security has been

:31:01.:31:05.

stepped up and not just at the European institutions. Everybody

:31:06.:31:08.

this morning is wondering about what happens next. Yesterday I was seeing

:31:09.:31:13.

on Twitter that somebody says we should kill all Muslims. So, indeed,

:31:14.:31:18.

the anti-Muslim sentiment really increased. But what we need to

:31:19.:31:23.

understand is to unite against these terrorists. Najim Laachraoui, on the

:31:24.:31:29.

right, is also linked to the November attacks in Paris.

:31:30.:31:32.

Authorities are yet to comment on reports of his arrest. Meanwhile,

:31:33.:31:38.

the Foreign Office has warned people travelling to Belgium to remain

:31:39.:31:40.

vigilant and stay away from crowded areas. It is just saying that three

:31:41.:31:48.

Britons, I beg your pardon, four Britons have been injured, three of

:31:49.:31:52.

whom are in hospital. Concern has been expressed about David Dixon, an

:31:53.:31:57.

IT programmer from Nottingham who is missing in Brussels. His family have

:31:58.:32:02.

said they have no news, despite searching local hospitals. David

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Cameron has chaired a meeting of the government's emergency Cobra

:32:08.:32:10.

committee to consider how the UK should respond to the attacks. The

:32:11.:32:13.

Prime Minister said UK security had been stepped up in the wake of a

:32:14.:32:16.

very real terror threat across Europe. Theresa May will make a

:32:17.:32:23.

statement in the Commons at 12:30pm. The front runners in the races for

:32:24.:32:28.

the US Republican and Democratic nominations have won the primaries

:32:29.:32:29.

in Arizona. It makes it more likely it will be

:32:30.:32:32.

Hillary Clinton facing Donald Trump at the presidential

:32:33.:32:35.

election in November. But it wasn't a clean sweep

:32:36.:32:37.

for either of them - they look likely to lose

:32:38.:32:39.

their caucuses in Utah - where Ted Cruz and Bernie

:32:40.:32:42.

Sanders hold clear leads. That is a summary of the main news.

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Join me at 11 o'clock. In a moment, we will talk to terrorism experts

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about the threat to this country. You might have heard John Reid

:33:05.:33:08.

telling us that further terrorist attacks were inevitable.

:33:09.:33:16.

It isn't going well for England in Afghanistan. They are six wickets

:33:17.:33:24.

down. Stokes out in a calamitous fashion. He goes for six and he

:33:25.:33:28.

misses the ball. We will see it again in a second. Look at this.

:33:29.:33:35.

That, I am afraid, sums up England's innings so far. 81-60 moments ago.

:33:36.:33:40.

If they lose, in danger of going out. England's women made it two

:33:41.:33:45.

wins out of two. A great catch from Katherine Brunt coming up. Sticky

:33:46.:33:50.

fingers. India making 90 off 20 overs. India getting a two wicket

:33:51.:33:56.

win. Novak Djokovic has tried to call the row of equal pay in tennis

:33:57.:34:01.

saying his comment that men deserved more prize money were taken the

:34:02.:34:06.

wrong way. What he meant to say was that the sport needed a fairer and

:34:07.:34:10.

better distribution of funds for men and women. Super league season gets

:34:11.:34:15.

underway tonight with Chelsea the defending champions playing

:34:16.:34:18.

tomorrow. They will play 16 matches over the next seven months.

:34:19.:34:28.

If you have just joined us, in Brussels, one of the suspects

:34:29.:34:35.

yesterday has been named by state media as Najim Laachraoui. Gavin Lee

:34:36.:34:40.

macro is at the airport in Brussels. What do you know? In the past few

:34:41.:34:47.

minutes, I think we have been talking about the name of this third

:34:48.:34:51.

suspect inside the airport, the one who is said to have survived on the

:34:52.:34:56.

run by the name of Najim Laachraoui. His name first appeared about two

:34:57.:34:59.

days ago just after the rate of Salah Abdeslam in Molenbeek. -- the

:35:00.:35:08.

raid. The DNA of Najim Laachraoui was discovered. Just before the

:35:09.:35:12.

Paris attacks, this was a man Belgian authorities said was a bomb

:35:13.:35:18.

maker, had spent time in Syria in 2013, had come back to Belgium and

:35:19.:35:23.

rented properties, where some of the bombs were made for the Paris

:35:24.:35:27.

attacks, crude, home-made suicide belts. Used a pseudonym until last

:35:28.:35:35.

week. Only after Salah Abdeslam was taken to this maximum security

:35:36.:35:39.

prison is his name emerged. This is what Belgian media reporting.

:35:40.:35:43.

Belgian media have also reportedly has been arrested in Anderlecht very

:35:44.:35:49.

close to Molenbeek. There is an ongoing government emergency meeting

:35:50.:35:53.

now. We are told there will be an update at 1pm, 12pm in the UK, on

:35:54.:35:58.

the details of the three attackers. Very little known about what is

:35:59.:36:02.

happening in Maelbeek. To give you a sense of what is going on elsewhere

:36:03.:36:06.

in the city, about 500 yards away, there is a sports hall turns

:36:07.:36:10.

reception centre where some people have stayed overnight, the

:36:11.:36:14.

passengers who got stuck in Belgium, and many people nearby have been

:36:15.:36:17.

putting them up in else's. It is growing into a number of people

:36:18.:36:24.

lighting candles and putting flowers in Belgian style bottles of beer, to

:36:25.:36:29.

commemorate, despite the government saying not to congregate in huge

:36:30.:36:32.

numbers. We are told the airport will be closed for an independent --

:36:33.:36:39.

an indeterminate amount of time. Is further details emerge about

:36:40.:36:44.

Tuesday's tax in Brussels, Panorama has made a fresh insight into how

:36:45.:36:50.

Islamic State operates in Europe. He detail is here. What have you found

:36:51.:36:56.

out? We started our investigation immediately after the Paris attacks

:36:57.:36:59.

and concluded yesterday with the tragic attacks in Brussels, although

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I suspect it isn't the conclusion of our investigation. What we used as

:37:05.:37:08.

evidence for trying to find out how the networks were structured and how

:37:09.:37:11.

the attacks were carried out were two things. One was intelligence

:37:12.:37:17.

documents from various European agencies, and the other word

:37:18.:37:20.

transcripts of interrogations carried out by France's equivalent

:37:21.:37:26.

of MI5 of captured returning jihad the fighters. They give a rare

:37:27.:37:30.

insight into how these operations are planned. They are planned by IS

:37:31.:37:35.

in Syria. We have established there is a specialist department in Syria

:37:36.:37:41.

which in Arabic means security. This was the department which we were

:37:42.:37:45.

told by one of the people involved was run by the command of the

:37:46.:37:52.

European jihadist network in Europe. He gets an interesting account of

:37:53.:38:04.

this particular organisation in which Abaaoud was closely involved.

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This is from the transcript. 1500 people work for this organisation.

:38:10.:38:17.

You have to be trustworthy to join. Its role is to detect spies in Iraq

:38:18.:38:22.

and Syria. That is its only internal role. Its external role is to send

:38:23.:38:29.

people all over the world to commit violent attacks. Each spy gets

:38:30.:38:35.

50,000 euros to mount an attack in Europe. What are the intelligence

:38:36.:38:41.

agencies doing? Or that they possibly can, but it has been

:38:42.:38:46.

difficult. Our investigation revealed that, throughout 2015, the

:38:47.:38:48.

agencies were involved in a desperate race to find Abaaoud, the

:38:49.:38:55.

commander of the network, and to try and stop him. He was identified to

:38:56.:38:59.

be in Athens a week after the Charlie Hebdo attacks. He was

:39:00.:39:04.

identified being there via telephone intercept. With the help of Israel's

:39:05.:39:12.

Mossad and the CIA, the CIA tried to get him, tried to arrest him in

:39:13.:39:16.

Athens but, for whatever reason, they failed. He went back to Syria

:39:17.:39:20.

and boasted about having evaded the best of Western intelligence. But

:39:21.:39:26.

the documents clearly indicate that concern over Abaaoud and the network

:39:27.:39:30.

increased as the months went by last year, with the result that in

:39:31.:39:36.

October, a month before the Paris attacks, MI5 and MI6 at a meeting

:39:37.:39:40.

with a European partner agency to discuss Abaaoud and what they were

:39:41.:39:43.

going to do, and there was particular concern about a report

:39:44.:39:49.

that Abaaoud was planning to send 60 jihadist fighters to attack Europe.

:39:50.:39:54.

There was great concern about this. Roughly at the same time, European

:39:55.:39:58.

agencies got together to discuss the problem of Abaaoud and the network,

:39:59.:40:03.

and they discussed setting up a specialist team to track him and

:40:04.:40:09.

target him. A meeting was planned to finalise the specifics of the

:40:10.:40:12.

specialist teams and the original date planned for that meeting which

:40:13.:40:17.

never happened, was the 13th of November, which tragically was the

:40:18.:40:24.

date of the Paris attacks. We have also been finding out about Abaaoud

:40:25.:40:29.

himself and the way in which he operated and the network operated,

:40:30.:40:33.

again relying on a transcript from another captured fighter. He

:40:34.:40:40.

describes how not only was he trained in Syria by Abaaoud but he

:40:41.:40:44.

was also given he's instructions. To go back to Europe and he described

:40:45.:40:51.

the kind of targets that Abaaoud directed him to attack. This was a

:40:52.:40:58.

clip from the interrogation by France's MI5. He told me to choose

:40:59.:41:03.

an easy target. Imagine a rock concert in a European country. He

:41:04.:41:07.

specified that the best thing to do is to wait for the intervention

:41:08.:41:12.

forces and to die fighting with hostages. He told me whoever rushes

:41:13.:41:18.

the enemy will have the reward of two maters. You can see that special

:41:19.:41:27.

Panorama tonight at 9pm on BBC One. Let's talk down to Baroness Pauline

:41:28.:41:33.

Neville Jones, a former security and counterterrorism minister, and also

:41:34.:41:38.

at Hussein, a counter extremism expert. He has spoken openly about

:41:39.:41:42.

his own experience of being radicalised and being a member of

:41:43.:41:48.

extremist groups from aged 16 to 21. What is your view on why Brussels

:41:49.:41:53.

was attacked in this way and at this time? I think it was clear that

:41:54.:42:00.

Brussels still harboured a number and does indeed harbour a number of

:42:01.:42:04.

people who are active in terrorist activity. I think that immediately

:42:05.:42:13.

after the attacks in Brussels, I think there is still momentum, they

:42:14.:42:17.

still have caches of arms, they still have planning and they want to

:42:18.:42:22.

get on with something. And they do know that Brussels itself, the

:42:23.:42:27.

Belgian authorities, have not really built a strong and professional

:42:28.:42:31.

intelligence service, or indeed really good cooperation with the

:42:32.:42:35.

police. I think the understanding of the structure of the Belgian state

:42:36.:42:41.

is rather weak. So it is a vulnerable place, and I think there

:42:42.:42:45.

has got to be a very serious attempt now on the part of the Belgians

:42:46.:42:49.

themselves, with a lot of help from their friends and allies, to

:42:50.:42:53.

strengthen their capabilities against this kind of attack.

:42:54.:43:04.

Presumably they have to look at stopping the attacks of the young

:43:05.:43:09.

Belgian nationals? You are absolutely right. It's a two-layered

:43:10.:43:14.

problem. On a macro level, you have issues around the identity, lack of

:43:15.:43:17.

being race, lack of a feeling of belonging in Europe. Which makes

:43:18.:43:23.

them vulnerable to IS's ideaology? Of offering them a sense of purpose

:43:24.:43:28.

and belonging and this utopian perfectionist Islamic state. On a

:43:29.:43:33.

microlevel we have increase of radicalisation and extremism in

:43:34.:43:35.

prisons, on university campuses, online and some mosques. We have to

:43:36.:43:41.

tackle this on the microand macro level and we are not doing that. We

:43:42.:43:45.

don't have a comprehensive strategy. You say we, do you mean in Belgium

:43:46.:43:53.

or across Europe? Across Europe. Joined up Government isn't just a

:43:54.:43:56.

slogan but at the moment it seems to be just that. Arab and Muslim

:43:57.:44:04.

Governments hand over intelligence and help falter efforts. More deeply

:44:05.:44:09.

at civil society level, we are looking at the logistics, but when a

:44:10.:44:12.

suicide bomber undertakes action, in his or her mind they think and

:44:13.:44:15.

believe in the theology that's offering them continuity in their

:44:16.:44:18.

next life. It's not just about stopping the act, but getting into

:44:19.:44:22.

their minds and stopping them from thinking along the lines that they

:44:23.:44:28.

don't belong here and somehow a belief in an afterlast, not

:44:29.:44:34.

criticising the belief but believing in the fact that you are led to

:44:35.:44:51.

heaven. I have talked to many people since the 7/7 bombings about that

:44:52.:44:56.

very subject, about how to change those young men's minds about what

:44:57.:45:00.

will happen if they blow themselves and others up? Well, if that's what

:45:01.:45:05.

you have been doing, except lent and we need much more of that... But I

:45:06.:45:09.

mean, the then Labour Government and the Governments since have been

:45:10.:45:13.

trying to, you know, install those kind of programmes, those

:45:14.:45:16.

initiatives within certain communities, you will know that?

:45:17.:45:21.

Yes. There are various programmes and Ed is right about the

:45:22.:45:25.

fundamentals. In fact when you get down to it, each country is

:45:26.:45:29.

different. It's Moroccans in Belgium, Turks in Germany and so on

:45:30.:45:33.

and so there is generality and cultural specific aspects and each

:45:34.:45:36.

country has to develop a programme. There are a lot of common themes we

:45:37.:45:40.

can use. You have got to do it with the local community. We'll never do

:45:41.:45:48.

this without the copration of the Muslim community itself. People have

:45:49.:45:52.

been saying that since 2005 as well. We are very conscious of it in this

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country. We are not anything like winning but we are making progress.

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In other countries they haven't got there. I think it would be fair to

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say the Belgians haven't realised until recently that this was a real

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issue and a lot of the people who live in Molenbeek, the area we are

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talking about, it's also a crime area. It's very easy to get hold of

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the protection they need, the arms they need, the criminal networks

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they need, the communications that are out to other networks, so

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there's a very great deal that you have to do. Simultaneously by way of

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pursuit and preventing over the long-term, this kind of behaviour,

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so it's a big task. We heard John Reid, Lord Reid he is now, who said

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British politicians should be honest with the electorate here, "there

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will be another terrorist attack in this country, it's inevitable".

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I'm afraid I don't accept the word inevitable. It's certainly the case

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that the agencies say, and rightly, that they cannot reckon to prevent

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everything that's potentially going to happen. However, I do think it's

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the case that this country is better protected than many. We have the

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advantages of our geography, we have kept our borders under control, we

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don't let the arms in in anything like... Well it's not easy. You have

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to be vigilant all of the time but I wouldn't equate the security

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situation in the UK with that in Belgium and we shouldn't give people

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the impression that it's like that either. I want to bring the audience

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some new pictures of the suspects. If I can just have a closer look.

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Just coming into us here. These are photographs of the brothers, the two

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of the three men photographed at the airport pushing those luggage

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trolleys, the bombs contained inside their suitcases we are told. These

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are the latest pictures of the two brothers. Khalid and Brahim Al

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Bakraoui. Ed Hussain, do you agree with Lord Reid or Baroness

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Neville-Jones about whether an attack... The Baroness Is right that

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we can't compare Belgian security responses to the way it's been

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operating here in the UK. We have been further ahead than most

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Governments sothe British Government's response hasn't been

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this countering of extremism that we see in the US or large parts of

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Europe. This Government and a lot of it under Baroness Neville-Jones was

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to remove to preventing extremism itself and not waiting for it to get

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to vale lens. We have won that, but that said, we shouldn't rest on our

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laurels. Terrorists have to be lucky once and every time, so that risk is

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there, and whether it's in the UK, whether it was in the US, in France,

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Germany, none of us are immune from the imminence of this global terror

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threat. Let's remember, yes, we have been through Paris and we have just

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gone through Belgium and previously Madrid and London and New York, but

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this kind of terrorist across Si happens -- atrocity happens almost

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every day. This is monitored in the centre for geopolitics. At some

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point this will touch us. Good policing and good intelligence are a

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huge deal in preventing things happen. I'm note trying to say we

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are immune but we shouldn't just take the view that somehow we are

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not going to ever be able to make an effective defence of our security. I

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do think that we will maintain a very high level of security in this

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country and our agencies and police need the support of the general

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community but also obviously of the Muslim communities in which the

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vital information is actually going to be found. That's another part of

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the battle against this kind of penetration and the destruction of

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our values. What does the group Islamic state want? The The group

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wants to retain its territory but also wants to expand outwards. It's

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not content with the landmass they've got, they want to continue

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to broadcast and export its ideaology. It's an ideological

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entity, too often we overlook the fact this is based on theology and

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philosophy and it wants to export that among its Muslim populations

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and it targets those, then outward among non-Muslims in trying to

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recruit them to the literalist outdated world view. The claim of

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being a caliphate and having a state is a very great draw at the moment I

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think and coming under pressure of course in reducing the level of

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success is in fact something that they feel they need to counter, so

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they are being more active in a sense outside, you know, because

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they want to demonstrate they still have power. It's a big battle.

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Yes. If they kill Muslims in Brussels or Paris or wherever,

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Turkey, wherever else in Europe, beaches in Tunisia, is that just the

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way it is, it's still a means to an end for them? For them, the vast

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majority of Muslims they kill and the vast majority of their victims

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have been Muslims around the world, they are not Muslim enough and that

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I think plays to the advantage of all of us that even Muslims aren't

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Muslim enough for us because they are more Muslim than Muslim, most

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Muslims reject them because they are extreme and out of fringes of Islam

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historically and at the moment. It's worth remembering that a good five

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or six years ago when the Baroness And I worked on these issues, we

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were talking about a caliphate, an expansion of state and people said

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we were alarmists. Right now this issue is a generational issue and

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all of us across civil society, it's not about being Muslim or

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non-Muslim, it's a common threat to all of us and it shouldn't be

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divided along left, right, political lines, Brexit or anti-Brexit, it's

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affecting key cities around the world and it targets Muslims

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noovened Muslims and we shouldn't fall into their trap by turning on

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innocent Muslims. Much of the intelligence and countering efforts

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of the extremists lies within these communities. Thank you very much.

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As we heard from Ben Brown, Place de la Bourse in Brussels has become the

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Centre for Tributes for those who died in the attacks. Hoping to bring

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you some live images in the next few minutes where hundreds of people

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have been coming to the square to mourn and to reflect using the chalk

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messages to express themselves, as Ben told us earlier, and also as we

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saw earlier, getting together, complete strangers, holding hands

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and raising their arms aloft in a gentle show of defiance, if I can

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put it like that. I felt so powerless

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and I wanted to do something. I'm really not afraid...

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I don't know. Four British people have been

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declared as being in Belgium at the time of this. We have a read out

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from the meeting so there were four Brits who were injured. One has been

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discharged from hospital, she's a woman, the other three who're still

:55:24.:55:29.

in hospital are men. Two I'm told do not have life-threatening injuries,

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they seem OK, they are in one hospital. The third, there are no

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details on at the moment. That's not to say he's got life-threatening

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injuries, but the details haven't been forthcoming. In terms of the

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missing Briton, David Dixon, Number Ten are saying there is some concern

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now about him obviously because we are 24 hours on from the bombing, he

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was thought to be on the Metro on his way to work. You would think he

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would have been in contact with his partner. His partner has been around

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the hospitals to see if he's been at the hospitals, the Foreign Office

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has been trying to do the same. That has to be of some concern. We'll get

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a minutes' silence in Government departments at 11 then a statement

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by the Home Secretary in the House of Commons after Prime Minister's

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Questions. Thank you. The BBC's Secunder Kermani

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is in Brussels - he has been spending time in Molenbeek,

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where the chief Paris terror suspect Salah Abdeslam was

:56:28.:56:30.

detained last week. What have you been finding out? The

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man who has been arrested this morning, Najim Lachraoui, we believe

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he's been arrested certainly. What is interesting about him and the

:56:44.:56:47.

others is their links seem to go back to the cell behind the Paris

:56:48.:56:53.

attacks, though we are not entirely sure how Najim Lachraoui was stopped

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at the Hungarian border with one of the people involved in the Paris

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plots. He was stopped with another man,

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they were using false identity cards. They used those cards to rent

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safe houses that were used to prepare for the Paris attacks. The

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police found his DNA on some of the explosive devices used in the Paris

:57:23.:57:26.

attacks. Then we have the brothers believed to be in the bombings as

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well and both very interestingly have long criminal pasts which I

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think more of that will come out today.

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Thank you very much. We'll continue our coverage of all of the

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developments after yesterday's bomb attacks in Brussels. Flags are

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flying at half-mast across Belgium and a minutes' silence is due to be

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held in the next few minutes which will be observed across the country.

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Now to Ben Brown in the main square in the capital where all the

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tributes are. You join us for a special BBC News

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