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Welcome to the programme. Our top story. | :00:07. | :00:13. | |
More than a million workers get a pay rise today, | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
as the National Living Wage takes effect. | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
But it's predicted jobs will be lost if companies struggle to pay | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
Also ahead, Business Secretary Sajid Javid prepares to meet Port Talbot | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
steelworkers following criticism over his absence in Australia | :00:30. | :00:30. | |
since the Tata sell-off hit the industry. | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
Workers tell us they want the government to step in. | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
And the viola player who says his hearing is irreversibly | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
damaged because he had to sit too close to his | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
I've been a professional musician since I went to music college. | :00:42. | :00:49. | |
So since I was 17, for the last quarter of a century, | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
music was my income and my everything really. | :00:55. | :01:10. | |
Hello. Welcome to the programme. | :01:11. | :01:11. | |
We'll keep you across the latest breaking and developing stories. | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
Also ahead, from today, the NHS is being told it must get | :01:18. | :01:24. | |
better at investigating and learning from its mistakes. | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
A new investigations board will ensure errors | :01:27. | :01:27. | |
We'll speak to one mum whose son died and tells us the medical | :01:28. | :01:34. | |
profession needs to be less defensive when things go wrong. | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
Please feel free to get in touch whenever you'd like. | :01:38. | :01:39. | |
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you are - via the BBC News app or our website bbc.co.uk/victoria. | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
More than a million workers will receive | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
a pay rise, as the new National Living Wage comes into force. | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
It will mean that employers will have to pay all workers aged 25 | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
or over at least ?7.20 an hour and is expected to give 1.3 million | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
Unions have welcomed the new hourly rate, but business groups have | :02:07. | :02:14. | |
warned that some firms may have to cut jobs as a result | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
Let's go over to York and speak to our business correspondent Ben | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
What is the feeling thereabouts it? Good morning. We are in York because | :02:22. | :02:33. | |
this is one of the industries, the hospitality industry, that will feel | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
the increased more than most. It will be things like hospitality, | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
health care, retail and social work you will see a rise in wages of 50p | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
per hour to ?7.20. Some of the workers here will get a payday that | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
equates to about ?1000 extra over the course of the year. Welcome news | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
for them but the big issue is what it could cost business. This hotel | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
has just undergone refurbishment but they have said they may have do have | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
put off how long that will last before they refurbish again if they | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
are taking on extra costs associated with paying the staff more. The | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
other option is whether they pass the extra cost on to customers, the | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
people staying in the hotel but whether they would be prepared to | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
pay more money every night for their room as a result of higher prices | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
for its staff. Crucially, today, it's also worth remembering that | :03:22. | :03:24. | |
this increased only applies to workers over the age of 25. If you | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
are under 25, you will still get the national minimum wage, not the new | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
National Living Wage. That is set at ?7.20 per hour from today. A big | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
increase across-the-board but there are also fears that it could lead to | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
fewer jobs in the economy as well. Some estimates show that workers and | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
firms will put off hiring workers, about 60,000 fewer jobs in the | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
economy as a result of the increased burden on business. Big questions | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
about the impact on business but at the same time, welcome news for | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
workers in some industries and some professions that say they have not | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
been paid enough up until now. The government says this is a payday | :04:03. | :04:04. | |
which is long overdue. Thanks, Ben. Later in the programme, | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
we'll hear from people We'll also hear from businesses, | :04:08. | :04:09. | |
some of whom say it could force them Is it affecting you? Let us know | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
what you think on social media. Keeping us across the rest | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
of the day's news is Maxine. She's in the BBC Newsroom | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
with a round-up of what else The Business Secretary, | :04:23. | :04:24. | |
Sajid Javid today visits the threatened Port Talbot | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
steel works today - and is expected to meet some | :04:29. | :04:30. | |
of the workers who fear He's expected to tell them | :04:31. | :04:32. | |
that the government will use all official and diplomatic levers | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
to secure the future the threatened Port Talbot | :04:37. | :04:38. | |
steel works today - The Indian-owned Tata group has | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
announced its All ready to sell off the loss-making business, | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
which employs nearly 15,000 Let's got more on this | :04:48. | :04:49. | |
from our political correspondent Chris Mason, who's in our | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
Westminster studio. is this what they want to hear up | :04:53. | :05:03. | |
their in Port Talbot? Are they going to believe what they are told, given | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
what has happened so far? I think they will be glad the Business | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
Secretary has finally rolled up in south Wales, swapping New South | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
Wales. Wales, given that he's been away in Australia for the last | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
couple of days and facing quite a bit of political heat as a result. | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
We are told by Sajid Javid's team that he will make as positive a case | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
as he can about the future of steel-making in the UK. But the | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
language from the government has been pretty cautious in the last | :05:34. | :05:36. | |
couple of days. I think a recognition that there is a limited | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
amount at this stage that they can do. An increasing amount of heat | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
about what, in the view of some, they have not done, particularly | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
around the issue of what is known as Paris, suggesting there's a huge | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
amount of steel floating around at the moment from China which has | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
driven down the world price and the UK, in the view of some, could have | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
done more to effectively put a greater price tag on that Chinese | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
steel by imposing tariffs. The government has argued in the past | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
that to do that would have bumped up the price of steel for consumers, | :06:08. | :06:14. | |
for buyers of the product. I suspect that question about government | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
action or inaction on tariffs will follow Sajid Javid to south Wales | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
today. How politically difficult is this, do you think? It's very, very | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
awkward for the government. On the one hand, as conservatives, the | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
instinct of many in the government is do not intervene in a big way in | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
the free market, to allow free enterprise to succeed or fail, | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
depending on whether or not they can make a profit in the market. And | :06:37. | :06:43. | |
yet, we have seen some conservatives make the argument that perhaps | :06:44. | :06:45. | |
nationalisation, buying these plants back would be a good idea. The Prime | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
Minister seems to have ruled this out. So what can the government do | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
without racking up a huge bill for the taxpayer? That is the big | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
question. Can they offer some support for the pension liabilities | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
of the firm, for instance? Or some kind of financial support in the | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
short term to keep the plants open until a buyer can be found? But can | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
a buyer be found when the existing owners, Tata Steel acknowledged that | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
they are losing millions of pounds a week keeping the plant open? It is | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
very difficult. Thank you for joining us. Chris Maize on, there. | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
-- Chris Mason. There are now more adults | :07:19. | :07:20. | |
in the world who are obese, than those who are classed | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
as underweight, according Hundreds of scientists, | :07:24. | :07:25. | |
led by a team at Imperial College London, warn that if the current | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
trend continues, one fifth of the world will be obese | :07:30. | :07:31. | |
in ten years' time. Here's our health | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
correspondent Jane Dreaper. Our world is changing, | :07:35. | :07:35. | |
and getting bigger. This research points out | :07:36. | :07:37. | |
that four decades ago, being underweight was a far | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
more common problem But now, more adults worldwide | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
are obese than underweight. The scientists looked at data | :07:45. | :07:50. | |
on height and weight from almost They found obesity in men | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
has tripled since 1975, to more than 10% of them now, | :07:54. | :08:00. | |
and it has more than doubled The US has the highest number | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
of severely obese adults, more than 39 million, and women | :08:04. | :08:10. | |
in the UK have the third-highest There is a global target that | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
countries have agreed to, to actually stop the rise | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
in obesity compared to 2010. We are not nearly | :08:20. | :08:21. | |
on track to get there. But we hope that its existence | :08:22. | :08:23. | |
actually modulates the sort of policies around food, | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
that will help get closer. The authors want governments to make | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
fruit and veg more affordable, and to tax sugar and | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
highly processed foods. They say the problem of obesity | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
is too significant to be tackled by giving people medication | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
or building bike lanes. Hundreds more armed police officers | :08:44. | :08:50. | |
will be stationed across the country poised to deal with | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
a Paris-style terror attack. Police forces | :08:55. | :08:56. | |
across England and Wales have begun recruiting an extra | :08:57. | :08:58. | |
1,500 firearms officers. There's also to be an increase | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
in the number of high-speed Most of the officers will be trained | :09:03. | :09:04. | |
and equipped within Greater Manchester becomes the first | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
English region to take responsibility for running its own | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
health services today. Nearly 40 organisations are joining | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
forces to take control Could this be the | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
future of healthcare in Greater Manchester, | :09:21. | :09:31. | |
targeting prevention This boxing gym in a | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
deprived part of south Manchester trains youngsters to keep | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
fit, focused and disciplined. Learn about the eating, | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
and trying to be a sportsman instead And it sets them up | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
on the right path for life, This is about better co-ordination | :09:49. | :09:57. | |
between health and social care. Council leaders and NHS | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
managers will pool budgets If one part of the system | :10:02. | :10:02. | |
is not doing its bit, and because of that | :10:03. | :10:10. | |
there's a knock-on effect elsewhere, previously | :10:11. | :10:12. | |
there was no easy mechanism for knocking heads | :10:13. | :10:15. | |
together and saying, "Look, you're letting | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
the side down". That will change, | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
that has to change. Some MPs are worried there is not | :10:23. | :10:23. | |
enough cash or transparency. This system is incredibly complex, | :10:24. | :10:30. | |
and if the point of devolving power was to give the people | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
of Greater Manchester more control over the decisions that | :10:36. | :10:37. | |
affect their lives, it's clear to me that we have | :10:38. | :10:39. | |
a very, very long way to go Don't mistake this for some kind | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
of NHS reorganisation. It is a radical attempt | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
to transform people's health. But it is a political gamble, | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
with huge implications for the rest A new rate of stamp duty for people | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
investing in buy-to-let property and second homes comes | :10:56. | :11:04. | |
into force today. Estate agents | :11:05. | :11:05. | |
and solicitors reported a last-minute rush to complete | :11:06. | :11:07. | |
property deals before the 3% increase came into | :11:08. | :11:10. | |
effect at midnight. Police in the Indian city of Kolkata | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
say at least 24 people are now known to have been killed when a partially | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
built flyover collapsed. At least 100 people | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
were injured in the collapse. The flyover came down | :11:22. | :11:29. | |
into Kolkata's most densely Rescuers have been clearing | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
the wreckage since yesterday. Our South Asia Correspondent | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
has more from there. There is a huge amount | :11:37. | :11:38. | |
of anger building here. Questions about | :11:39. | :11:40. | |
whether it cut corners. It's now been revealed | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
a number of Indian states had blacklisted | :11:44. | :11:45. | |
the company that was building I have to say it's very | :11:46. | :11:47. | |
noisy at the moment. As you can probably see, | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
they're still clearing these huge lumps of concrete and twisted | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
steel that collapsed down As I was saying, huge | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
amounts of anger here, directed at the company which it's | :11:58. | :12:08. | |
believed may have used Also at the local | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
politicians who were urging the company to finish this | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
much-delayed project. State elections are | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
due in just a couple of days and this has become | :12:17. | :12:18. | |
a huge political issue, not just in Kolkata, | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
but across India. What we are seeing here | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
is the last efforts to clear the rubble | :12:27. | :12:28. | |
and debris from the site. You can probably see | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
in front of me here, there is a large lorry | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
and behind it is a digger Perhaps you can see | :12:36. | :12:37. | |
it moving behind me? There is a digger clearing | :12:38. | :12:40. | |
the last mounds of debris. In fact, within the last three | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
hours, a body was pulled from the rubble, | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
but the official line from the rescuers here is, | :12:47. | :12:48. | |
they're not expecting to find I have to say, looking at how much | :12:49. | :12:50. | |
of the debris that's been cleared from this site, | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
it does seem unlikely any more But it is a scene | :12:57. | :12:58. | |
of real devastation. On either side of the roads running | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
up to this crossroads, the wreckage of rickshaws, burnt-out | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
motorcycles, discarded belongings. A renowned viola player is suing | :13:08. | :13:10. | |
the Royal Opera House in London for ruining his hearing | :13:11. | :13:18. | |
and his career. Chris Goldsheider | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
says his hearing was destroyed by brass instruments placed | :13:23. | :13:23. | |
immediately behind him during rehearsals, | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
when he was a member of orchestra The Musician's Union says hearing | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
damage is a major problem The Royal Opera House | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
denies it is responsible. And we'll be hearing | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
from Chris Goldsheider, Debbie Harry, Michael Stipe, | :13:41. | :13:42. | |
Cyndi Lauper and The Pixies are among the musicians who have | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
been honouring David Bowie Originally organised | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
as a retrospective, it become a memorial event after the singer's | :13:52. | :13:58. | |
death from cancer in January. Organisers say they were overwhelmed | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
by requests from performers keen to take part, and had | :14:03. | :14:05. | |
to turn some down. That is the latest news. We will | :14:06. | :14:12. | |
have more from you at 9:30am. Coming up in a moment - | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
the Business Secretary Sajid Javid is set to meet Port Talbot | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
steelworkers later today, and we'll hear from Tata workers | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
who are heading into a uncertain future and say closure | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
will be a disaster. Do get in touch with us | :14:28. | :14:29. | |
throughout the morning - use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
and If you text, you will be charged | :14:35. | :14:36. | |
at the standard network rate. Let's catch up with the sport. We | :14:37. | :14:46. | |
have some news on the Boxer Nick Blackwell. What can you tell us? | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
It seems like some great news coming out of this story. | :14:50. | :14:56. | |
We have some news on the boxer Nick Blackwell. | :14:57. | :15:12. | |
He suffered a small bleed on the brain but hasn't required | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
However, he won't be allowed to box again. | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
It's been just a couple of weeks since Olympic cycling champion | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
Victoria Pendleton swapped a bike for a horse on the biggest stage | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
and fulfilled her ambition to compete at the Cheltenham | :15:26. | :15:27. | |
Now her GB teammate Sir Chris Hoy is to race in one of motor sport's | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
Sir Chris will live a childhood dream when he races in the Le Mans | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
24 hour race in June - part of motor sport's | :15:37. | :15:38. | |
It's not something I ever thought I'd get a chance to do. | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
I think you dream of racing cars as a small boy, | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
but you never think you're going to get the opportunity. | :15:46. | :15:47. | |
And to think I will be starting on the grid at the same time as some | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
of the world's best drivers on a legendary track, | :15:54. | :15:55. | |
it's just an incredibly exciting opportunity. | :15:56. | :15:56. | |
First practice gets underway at lunchtime for this weekend's | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
Bahrain Grand Prix, but two-time F1 world champion, | :16:03. | :16:04. | |
Fernando Alonso, won't be taking part. | :16:05. | :16:05. | |
He's been ruled out of the race having not fully recovered from rib | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
fractures and a partially collapsed lung after his high-speed crash | :16:10. | :16:11. | |
at the Australian Grand Prix two weeks ago. | :16:12. | :16:13. | |
West Indies will be represented at both the men's and women's | :16:14. | :16:16. | |
That's after the men completed a seven-wicket win over | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
The win sees them face England in Sunday's final in Kolkata | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
England will certainly be aware it's not a one-man show in this team. | :16:27. | :16:39. | |
Chris Gayle did not get off tonight but we managed to get over the line | :16:40. | :16:46. | |
with a big total. He did not perform, but we were still able to | :16:47. | :16:49. | |
put up a fight and that shows a lot of character from our players. | :16:50. | :16:52. | |
Britain's Penny Coomes and Nick Buckland have claimed | :16:53. | :16:54. | |
a career-best finish at the World Figure Skating | :16:55. | :16:56. | |
The pair were making a comeback after illness forced them to miss | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
last year's World and European championships, coming | :17:01. | :17:01. | |
France's Gabriella Papadakis and Guillaume Cizeron clinched | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
And British eventer William Fox-Pitt will return to competition this | :17:06. | :17:14. | |
weekend, six months after suffering a head trauma in a serious accident. | :17:15. | :17:17. | |
The three-time Olympic medallist has been out of action | :17:18. | :17:19. | |
since being placed in an induced coma after falling at | :17:20. | :17:21. | |
the World Young Horse Championships in October. | :17:22. | :17:24. | |
He's entered the Burnham Market International Horse Trials, | :17:25. | :17:26. | |
We'll be talking to the man himself at 10.30. | :17:27. | :17:33. | |
I'll be back with the headlines at 9:30. | :17:34. | :17:40. | |
It's been an uncertain week for thousands of steel workers | :17:41. | :17:43. | |
at plants across the country, as Tata Steel announced | :17:44. | :17:45. | |
If no buyer is found, the plants could be forced to close, | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
We make a top quality product with a very highly skilled workforce who | :17:50. | :18:02. | |
are second to none and they need to hear that we have a future for this | :18:03. | :18:06. | |
plant. Somebody needs to come down here to see Mr Cameron himself. But | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
I cannot see that happening. Somebody needs to come. The steel | :18:12. | :18:13. | |
industry is more important. Business secretary Savid Javid | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
visits the threatened Port Talbot site in south Wales | :18:19. | :18:19. | |
today, after cutting short The government has been criticised | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
for not intervening sooner. They need to start looking at | :18:23. | :18:35. | |
stopping the Chinese completely. They are at least raising tariffs to | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
the point of what they had in the USA, for argument's sake. They are | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
not hanging about. They stepped in and protected the industry | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
straightaway. We need to not be punished for the business rates that | :18:49. | :18:55. | |
they put on us. We built a ?200 million new blast furnace in Port | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
Talbot but we get taxed beyond belief for it. You do not punish | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
people that bring in investment, you give them a fair crack at the whip | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
and a chance of delivering something. | :19:09. | :19:09. | |
The government insists it's doing everything | :19:10. | :19:11. | |
possible to rescue the British steel industry, as it struggles with high | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
energy prices and trying to compete against a flood of cheap | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
We want to help to find a sustainable solution that will | :19:18. | :19:28. | |
support the steel-making communities in the UK, but to be sustainable, it | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
has to be a solution that recognises the contexts and the reality of a | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
world which is drowning in an oversupply of steel. And we cannot | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
simply ignore that, just continuing to produce steel of which there is | :19:47. | :19:49. | |
not adequate demand is not the answer. It has to be a more nuanced | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
solution that focuses on supporting the communities who are most | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
affected by this oversupply in the market. | :20:00. | :20:04. | |
Let's speak now to Scott Bamsey, one of the workers at the Tata Plant | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
Also joining us is Tony Ellor who was made redundant when the van | :20:08. | :20:14. | |
manufacturer he worked for collapsed in 2009. | :20:15. | :20:16. | |
And he can tell us how his life has changed since. Scott, you were one | :20:17. | :20:24. | |
of the workers at Port Talbot, and it is something that family members | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
have done before you. Tell us, what is working there meant for you and | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
your family? Good morning. I am a fourth-generation steelworker. I | :20:38. | :20:39. | |
have a young family who rely on me. My brother and children work there, | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
and my father and my great-grandfather. Even my | :20:45. | :20:50. | |
great-grandfather. My whole family have earned good money from the | :20:51. | :20:52. | |
steelworks over the years and we want the opportunity to continue to | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
do so because it is all we know. Is it fair to say that it is a way of | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
life for you as much as a job? Very much so. It is a way of life for | :21:01. | :21:07. | |
myself, but it is not an unfamiliar story. Most people import all but | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
have worked there, either directly or indirectly with family members | :21:13. | :21:15. | |
working in the steelworks. The town is built on steel. If we lose our | :21:16. | :21:22. | |
steelworks, I think we will lose Port Talbot as a town. It will | :21:23. | :21:29. | |
become a ghost town. So how do you feel right now, with all of this | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
uncertainty? Presumably everybody around you feels as vulnerable as | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
you do. It is not a good time for myself and my family and colleagues. | :21:39. | :21:44. | |
It is such an uncertain time. It is like a dark cloud hanging over our | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
heads. We're just praying that we can get through this tough time. We | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
need the government to step in and act. It is time to step up and save | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
steel. If they give us money to keep us going, or time, that is all we | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
need, time to find a buyer. Tata steel want to take us forward, to | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
find a buyer. That is all we are asking for. Chris, you have worked | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
for more than 21 years at the Tata plant in Rotherham. Is it the same | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
for you? Is it a family concern? Exactly. I am third generation down | :22:25. | :22:35. | |
at Rotherham. 21 years. To echo what has been said, if we lose that site, | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
Rotherham will become a ghost town. We have just gone through a | :22:42. | :22:47. | |
restructuring and I lost a lot of friends yesterday, who have gone | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
down the road, and we just thought we were trying to build up again, to | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
get a sustainable industry, and then we get the rug pulled over us. With | :22:57. | :23:04. | |
the future so uncertain, are you thinking potentially about a change | :23:05. | :23:07. | |
in your future or are you just really having to wait and see what | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
happens at whether the plans can be saved? I am not painting a black | :23:11. | :23:21. | |
picture yet. -- whether the plant. I'm hoping the government to support | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
us. We need help and we want a level playing field to prove that we are | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
the best, because we have got the best steel across the UK. And that | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
is all we want. A level playing field, so we can compete. What would | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
give you that? What do you want the government to do? A tariff would be | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
a start. Business rates would help. And the energy costs. At Rotherham, | :23:47. | :23:53. | |
it is recyclable steel, 100% recyclable. But we pay more green | :23:54. | :24:02. | |
taxes than anybody. Tony, you went through what Scott and Chris went | :24:03. | :24:10. | |
through now many years ago, when like them it was effectively the | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
only job you had ever known. Tell us how you got through at. -- got | :24:15. | :24:21. | |
through it. As a former van maker, at first the shock hits you and you | :24:22. | :24:28. | |
are devastated. It takes time. It took me 18 months to get my feet | :24:29. | :24:35. | |
back up and running. I am now working as a health care assistant | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
in the NHS. I have just been promoted to ward housekeeper after | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
working for six years in the NHS. And presumably the work you are | :24:45. | :24:46. | |
doing now is something that you said we could not have envisaged before | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
your life unfolded in the way that it did. Absolutely. I have gone from | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
being an engineer to a health care assistant. It is totally different. | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
What took you down that path? Were you given support when the business | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
went under? When the business went under, we were given no support | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
whatsoever. After six months you are classed as long-term unemployed and | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
you get more help than when you are unemployed. Scott, you are shaking | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
your head as you were listening. What do you think? For me, there are | :25:20. | :25:26. | |
no jobs around here. I have not given up hope that we can save the | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
steelworks and keep going. I don't know what I would do. I came here | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
straight from school and I have not given a second thought of doing | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
anything else. I don't know what I would do. I can't imagine it. | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
Everyone else is in the same boat, people in their 40s or 50s, that is | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
all they have ever done. Retraining, it is great to hear nice stories | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
like that, but I cannot see it being the case in Port Talbot. There are | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
so many people. Chris, you are nodding your head. Yes, you can | :26:00. | :26:08. | |
applaud moving on, but you dread to think, if we lost the steel | :26:09. | :26:11. | |
industry, we need a sustainable steel industry, and each area, Port | :26:12. | :26:20. | |
Talbot, Shotton, Teesside, Scunthorpe, you name it, they will | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
all become ghost towns and we cannot have that. For everyone | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
steelworker's job, or four other jobs tied in. It would be | :26:35. | :26:43. | |
devastating. -- there are four other jobs tied in. There is a big issue | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
with the steel industry and so many people being caught up with this, | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
not knowing what the future might be but in the end, individual | :26:52. | :26:53. | |
self-preservation has to come through and that is what you found. | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
When you hear Scott and Chris saying they cannot imagine another life, | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
what do you say for them? -- say to them? I can see where they are | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
coming from. You are blinkered and you do not see any way out, but | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
there is help for you after six months. I got my confidence built | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
back-up. Your confidence takes a shot. You are sending out CDs to | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
companies, left right and centre, and you are getting no return back | :27:22. | :27:24. | |
whatsoever. Your confidence hits rock bottom. And what was the best | :27:25. | :27:30. | |
way for you in coming up through that? What is the best thing that | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
you would pass on to anyone that finds themselves feeling like that? | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
Don't give up. There are people out there willing to help you. Make sure | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
you do everything you can go to the agencies and get the agencies help | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
you. Scott, the situation is not resolved for Port Talbot and all of | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
the other Tata plans. It has yet to be seen how it unfolds but do you | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
take heart from what Tony is signal. It is good to hear good stories but | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
not for me, because there are no jobs here. -- take heart from what | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
Tony is saying? There is no work here as it is so for me, it is vital | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
that we keep the steelworks going. Is there anything in the way of help | :28:16. | :28:21. | |
being offered to you at the moment, and support? Is anyone talking in | :28:22. | :28:24. | |
that way or at the moment is the focus on how to protect the plants | :28:25. | :28:34. | |
there? Our focus is on keeping the steelworks going and I know the | :28:35. | :28:37. | |
other plants are feeling the same way. It is too early to start | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
talking about looking for work elsewhere. We are still fighting to | :28:42. | :28:44. | |
keep the steelworks going and I think we will get there. We need | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
government help, business rates, energy costs, tariffs on Chinese | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
steel. The fight is not over and I think we will save the steel | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
industry in this country. Failure is not an option. Do you feel | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
particularly angry at anyone aspect of the way this has been handled? | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
Are there things that could have been done differently? My anger is | :29:07. | :29:13. | |
mainly with the government. I cannot knock Tata Deal. They have been a | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
great employer and they have stuck with us through probably the worst | :29:18. | :29:26. | |
recession in history. -- Tata Steel. I cannot knock Tata Steel, but I | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
will knock the government. If they had helped us before, perhaps this | :29:30. | :29:35. | |
could have been avoided. If they had helped us with tariffs on Chinese | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
steel, energy costs, and it was only a month ago that Mr chivvied was | :29:41. | :29:46. | |
trying to block plans for tariffs, and the government have not helped | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
us at all. -- Mr Javid. When they say they want to help us, they are | :29:51. | :29:58. | |
flat-out lying. If you got to speak to Mr Javid directly, what would you | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
say? It is probably too late. He should've gone to India to fight our | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
cause but he would rather go to Australia with daughter. If I saw | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
him today, I would asking the question, what exactly are you doing | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
to help us? Thank you very much, Scott, Chris and Tony. And we are | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
hoping to hear from George Osborne on this a little later. We will | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
bring you that when we get it. You have been getting in touch on this | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
as well. A tweet from Bernie, saying: At times, it is worth | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
subsidising the community to keep it going. Why be reliant on other | :30:36. | :30:44. | |
countries, says one viewer. And Lee says, Tata has not made money in | :30:45. | :30:49. | |
years, and the owners should sell. An e-mail from Carolyn poor can | :30:50. | :30:52. | |
anyone explain why the government was happy to bail out that banks, | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
but why will they not bail out the steel industry? Thank you for your | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
thoughts and keep them coming. Coming up... | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
The way the NHS investigates errors in patient care is changing, | :31:04. | :31:06. | |
but will it be enough to change a culture where problems have | :31:07. | :31:09. | |
And we'll hear from the top musician who says the noise | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
at London's Royal Opera house has ruined his hearing and his career. | :31:14. | :31:24. | |
Maxine is in the BBC Newsroom and has a summary of the rest | :31:25. | :31:27. | |
More than a million workers will receive | :31:28. | :31:36. | |
a pay rise today as the new National Living Wage comes into force. | :31:37. | :31:39. | |
It will mean that employers will have to pay all workers aged 25 | :31:40. | :31:42. | |
or over at least ?7.20 an hour and is expected to give 1.3 million | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
Unions have welcomed the new hourly rate, but business groups have | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
warned that some firms may have to cut jobs as a result | :31:51. | :31:52. | |
The Business Secretary, Sajid Javid visits the threatened | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
Port Talbot steel works today - and is expected to meet some | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
of the workers who fear for their jobs. | :32:02. | :32:03. | |
He's expected to tell them that the government will use | :32:04. | :32:06. | |
all official and diplomatic levers to secure the future | :32:07. | :32:08. | |
The Indian-owned Tata group has announced its ready to sell off | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
the loss-making business, which employs nearly 15,000 | :32:13. | :32:13. | |
Scott has worked at Tata Steel for many years and he's concerned the | :32:14. | :32:32. | |
future. Port Talbot is built on steel, Port | :32:33. | :32:38. | |
Talbot and steel go hand-in-hand and if we lose the steelworks, Port | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
Talbot will become a ghost town. It is anything for the community at the | :32:43. | :32:43. | |
minute. There are now more adults | :32:44. | :32:44. | |
in the world who are obese, than those who are classed | :32:45. | :32:46. | |
as underweight, according Hundreds of scientists, | :32:47. | :32:48. | |
led by a team at Imperial College London, warn that if the current | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
trend continues, one fifth of the world will be obese | :32:53. | :32:54. | |
in ten years' time. Hundreds more armed police officers | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
will be stationed across the country poised to deal with | :32:59. | :33:01. | |
a Paris-style terror attack. Police forces | :33:02. | :33:03. | |
across England and Wales have begun recruiting an extra | :33:04. | :33:05. | |
1,500 firearms officers. There's also to be an increase | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
in the number of high-speed Most of the officers will be trained | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
and equipped within Police in the Indian city of Kolkata | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
say at least 24 people are now known to have been killed when | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
a partially-built flyover collapsed. At least 100 people | :33:24. | :33:26. | |
were injured in the collapse. The flyover came down | :33:27. | :33:29. | |
in one of Kolkata's most Rescuers have been clearing | :33:30. | :33:31. | |
the wreckage since yesterday. Debbie Harry, Michael Stipe, | :33:32. | :33:38. | |
Cyndi Lauper and The Pixies are among the musicians who have | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
been honouring David Bowie Originally organised | :33:43. | :33:44. | |
as a retrospective, it become a memorial event after the singer's | :33:45. | :33:51. | |
death from cancer in January. Organisers say they were overwhelmed | :33:52. | :33:56. | |
by requests from performers keen to take part, and had | :33:57. | :33:59. | |
to turn some down. That's a summary of | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
the latest BBC News. Some sad news just coming into us | :34:05. | :34:19. | |
about Denise Robertson, the TV agony aunt for ITV's This Morning, who has | :34:20. | :34:26. | |
died after a short battle with cancer, the show has just announced | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
that Denise Robertson, the programme's agony aunt, has died | :34:31. | :34:32. | |
after a short battle with cancer. Here's some sport now with Will - | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
and the doctors are cautiously What are they saying? | :34:36. | :34:47. | |
It seems like good news, the British boxer is expected to wake from his | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
induced coma in the next two or three days, according to his family. | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
Of course, he suffered a small bleed on the brain on Saturday night after | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
his title fight against Chris Eubank Jr. Britain's most successful | :35:00. | :35:03. | |
Olympian will fulfil a childhood dream this summer when he takes part | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
in the Le Mans 24-hour race. Sir Chris Hoy has already made the | :35:09. | :35:11. | |
switch from cycling and this will be the most prestigious motorsport | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
event he will compete in. Practice gets underway this lunchtime for the | :35:15. | :35:18. | |
Bahrain Grand Prix and two time Formula 1 world Champion Fernando | :35:19. | :35:21. | |
Alonso will not take part after sustaining fractured ribs and a | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
partially collapsed lung in last month's high-speed crash in | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
Australia. West Indies will be represented by both the men's and | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
the women's cricket teams in India, West Indies compete in a seven | :35:33. | :35:35. | |
wicket win over hosts India yesterday which sees them faced | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
England in Sunday's World T20 final in Kolkata with the women taking on | :35:41. | :35:42. | |
Australia. More at 10am. The NHS must get better | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
a learning from its mistakes - that's the message from | :35:47. | :35:49. | |
the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt. From today, the way the NHS | :35:50. | :35:52. | |
investigates and ultimately learns The Healthcare Safety Investigation | :35:53. | :35:55. | |
Branch or HSIB will be independent and offer guidance to NHS | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
organisations on looking into how errors have been made, and carry out | :36:00. | :36:02. | |
some investigations itself. We can speak now to Melissa Mead, | :36:03. | :36:15. | |
whose one-year-old son William died of sepsis after repeated visits | :36:16. | :36:18. | |
to the GP and a call the the NHS Professor Martin Elliott | :36:19. | :36:21. | |
is a specialist in patient safety at | :36:22. | :36:24. | |
Great Ormond Street Hospital Matthew Syed wrote | :36:25. | :36:25. | |
the book Black Box Thinking, which the Health Secretary | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
says influenced his thinking when coming up with some | :36:29. | :36:30. | |
of his reforms to the Health Good morning. Melissa, absolutely | :36:31. | :36:39. | |
terrible, what happened to you and your family. Tell us, when William | :36:40. | :36:46. | |
fell ill, what happened and how was he treated? William began to get | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
poorly at the beginning of October, developed a very nasty cough. Over | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
the preceding 11 weeks, the cough had developed and he started | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
vomiting and coughing up green phlegm. We repeatedly went back to | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
the doctors, saw a different doctor and we were just sent away being | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
told it was a virus and he was a child and it was coming up to | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
winter, it was just a cough. Until we got to the point where, 36 hours | :37:10. | :37:14. | |
before he died, his temperature spiked to over 40 and we went to the | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
GP, thinking we were having what was a thorough examination which later | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
transpired that it was far from that. We took William home under | :37:24. | :37:29. | |
Doctor's advice. We called 111 the following day because we were still | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
concerned. We spoke to an out of hours doctor, and they all told us | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
it was not an emergency and to leave William in bed. That was the best | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
place for him, give him fluids and Cal Pol. We woke up the next day to | :37:42. | :37:47. | |
what is every parent's worst nightmare, to find your child has | :37:48. | :37:53. | |
passed away. And there were errors which have subsequently been | :37:54. | :37:56. | |
acknowledged, and it must be so hard when you have been through what he | :37:57. | :37:59. | |
went through, to hear it could have been different. I think the worst | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
possible thing that can happen in any one's life is to lose a child. | :38:04. | :38:08. | |
To then find out that the child died in what is unavoidable and | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
preventable circumstance is beyond, mention. -- and avoidable. | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
Especially when you have taken your child repeatedly about the symptoms | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
that they are presenting. Those symptoms have not been recognised | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
and you are not listened to as a parent. I think that is really | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
important. We are the people that know William the most, we are within | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
24 hours a day and to be listened to is important. -- with him 24 hours a | :38:37. | :38:41. | |
day. How did you feel everything was handled when it became clear that | :38:42. | :38:45. | |
things could have been done differently? Were you listened to | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
then? It takes a very, very long time to get to a point where the | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
organisations involved start investigating. We had an inquest | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
first. But there's a huge gap. No one really comes to you and says, | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
"This is what is going to happen, this is who will contact you, these | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
are your options". We basically had to turn to the Internet to find out | :39:09. | :39:11. | |
exactly what would happen, and what our rights and choices were. Then, | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
when the investigation began after William's inquest, it felt like a | :39:17. | :39:24. | |
very disenfranchised process. They have created a them and us culture. | :39:25. | :39:29. | |
You are met with almost a defence. Obviously, it was apparent that | :39:30. | :39:32. | |
there were errors and holes in William's care. So it always seems | :39:33. | :39:38. | |
to be that they are trying to shy away from saying, "We have made | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
business Day", because they don't want to be blamed but we don't want | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
to blame people. We want its not to happen again. We don't want to be | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
asking these questions. We have every right to know the answers to | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
the questions, though. People forget that as parents, we are William's | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
voice. It is very important to be part of the process. Martin, you are | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
a specialist in patient safety at Greg Orman. Is there a fear of blame | :40:06. | :40:12. | |
and why? There is a fear of blame, the threat to your career internally | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
within the institution you work and also the background threat of | :40:17. | :40:19. | |
litigation, which could finish your career completely. What does that | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
then mean when things go wrong? What is the first instance? The first | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
thing is when you call an investigation into a critical | :40:29. | :40:31. | |
incident, which we always do, then getting people together in a room | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
can be quite hard because they are worried that whatever they say might | :40:35. | :40:37. | |
be used against them in the future. You have to work really hard to | :40:38. | :40:40. | |
realise that firstly, all human beings make mistakes. It is not | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
about the mistakes that were made, it is about stopping it happening | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
again, making sure that wherever you are in the health system, people are | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
protected. I think people like the family are finding it most important | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
that no one suffers what they have suffered and making sure that the | :41:01. | :41:03. | |
systems which we build our secure and robust. Melissa was saying you | :41:04. | :41:09. | |
did not want it to be about blame, did you? You just wanted to feel | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
someone was listening. I think if we blamed people, we would just be | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
consumed with anger. While we are doing that, we are not thinking | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
about William in a positive way. When people have made errors, | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
everyone is human we know that the doctors don't go to work that they | :41:27. | :41:30. | |
with the intention of causing harm. But equally, when mistakes are made, | :41:31. | :41:35. | |
they need to be able to stand up and say they have made a mistake and | :41:36. | :41:38. | |
this is how they will move forward and make sure they don't make the | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
same mistake again and apologised for the mistake they have made. On | :41:42. | :41:47. | |
the other side of it, Martin, as Melissa says, nobody goes to work | :41:48. | :41:50. | |
meaning to do harm but there must be immense guilt. As you rightly say, | :41:51. | :41:56. | |
it is the opposite, you go to work to help people and have a strong | :41:57. | :41:59. | |
internal feeling to do that. The guilt that occurs if something does | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
happen or if you do cause harm lives with you for your life. You know | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
those people, they have lost their child for ever and you can never | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
lose that feeling. The most important thing is to find a place | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
where people can feel confident in talking about what has happened and | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
to be completely honest and open. That is the only way you can make | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
progress and prevent it happening next time. I hope that by creating | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
these new means of investigation, we will find a way of doing that will | :42:30. | :42:34. | |
stop they won't be able to take on every investigation. It will have to | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
be selective. But for the culture that would spread from that, as it | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
is done in the airline industry, is critical if we want to avoid causing | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
damage by blame, which it does. Matthew Connolly you have written a | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
book which looks specifically at the NHS and its approach to when things | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
go wrong. -- Matthew, you have. And the airline industry takes a | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
different approach. I was struck by how aviation has improved safety by | :43:02. | :43:04. | |
seeing every mistake as Paddy but other treasures -- as a tragedy but | :43:05. | :43:10. | |
a precious learning opportunity. If there's a near miss in the air, the | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
pilots submit a report and the totality of the system is analysed | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
for weaknesses so they can make reforms. If, God forbid, there's an | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
accident, there are two black boxes which can be probed and | :43:23. | :43:25. | |
deconstructed so reforms can be made and the same mistakes are never made | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
again. At the heart of this is independent investigation. The | :43:31. | :43:33. | |
pilots feel they can talk openly and honestly the information flows. If | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
there is blame, and they feel defensive and they don't share the | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
information, it completely undermines the process of adaptation | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
that protects future lives. I think far too often in health care, the | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
rush to blame the clinicians is undermining that information. And | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
maybe fear of blame as well because as Melissa said, they did not want | :43:57. | :43:58. | |
to blame anyone. Obviously everyone will handle the situation | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
differently but with a fear of blame, anyone's natural instinct is | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
to be defensive. That is right and what Melissa said is right, most | :44:09. | :44:11. | |
families want openness and honesty and they are not looking to punish | :44:12. | :44:14. | |
clinicians. The vast majority of them come into work to help and save | :44:15. | :44:19. | |
people's lives. Every now and again there will be negligence or | :44:20. | :44:22. | |
malevolence and that needs to be punished and penalised. But in | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
dependent investigation is the best way to get to the surface and the | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
root causes of what is going wrong. If you don't get to that level of | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
analysis, you can often blame unfairly, honest mistakes caused by | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
systemic weakness. Melissa, if what happened to your family makes a | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
difference, what does that mean for you and everyone else who loved your | :44:44. | :44:50. | |
little boy, going forward? I think it is overwhelming for us to know | :44:51. | :44:58. | |
that sharing William's story, seeing through the recommendations made in | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
William's report and helping to create a culture where change can be | :45:02. | :45:10. | |
effected and the systems can be evolved, and to be able to say that | :45:11. | :45:16. | |
that has been effected by our little boy is truly amazing. It is very | :45:17. | :45:22. | |
bittersweet. We don't want to be here. But we have the opportunity to | :45:23. | :45:27. | |
be here. We feel that... These mistakes can't be made again. | :45:28. | :45:38. | |
Martin, do you believe there will be change? I think the idea of having | :45:39. | :45:44. | |
open investigation is exactly as Matthew and Melissa said, it is | :45:45. | :45:47. | |
crucial but the question is whether the NHS will be able to implement | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
the lessons that are learned in these investigations. Can parallel | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
is really be drawn with something like the aviation industry? | :45:56. | :45:57. | |
Everything comes down to individuals but is it systems, are their obvious | :45:58. | :46:03. | |
systemic changes that can make a difference? There are significant | :46:04. | :46:07. | |
parallels. We have a bigger problem because 70% of the turnover goes on | :46:08. | :46:13. | |
people. The interactions between humans are greater than in the | :46:14. | :46:16. | |
airline industry. Having said that, learning those lessons from an | :46:17. | :46:22. | |
investigation can mean that your processes have to change. The real | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
test for the NHS is not just that the people don't feel guilty and | :46:28. | :46:30. | |
they learn from their lessons but the processes associated with every | :46:31. | :46:33. | |
step of care are modified afterwards. My anxiety is that we | :46:34. | :46:37. | |
don't have a governance structure in the NHS which can really make that | :46:38. | :46:38. | |
happen all the way down the line. For a long time, there was a | :46:39. | :46:58. | |
competent hospital but there was not reporting. Clinicians will not | :46:59. | :47:01. | |
filing reports on errors because they were worried that it would come | :47:02. | :47:04. | |
back to haunt them. They created an open culture, and suddenly | :47:05. | :47:11. | |
information started to flow. For example, when a nurse gave a patient | :47:12. | :47:16. | |
the wrong medication, they discovered their were two bottles on | :47:17. | :47:20. | |
the sideboard that had almost identical labelling but different | :47:21. | :47:26. | |
effects, so they changed the labelling. It was a gain. A patient | :47:27. | :47:31. | |
came in with the wrong colour wristbands saying do not | :47:32. | :47:33. | |
resuscitate. The nurse was colour-blind and they added text to | :47:34. | :47:42. | |
the wristbands. Another gamer. -- another gamer. They make small | :47:43. | :47:49. | |
changes but the totality led to a reduction in liabilities of 74%. It | :47:50. | :47:55. | |
is this process of seeing every error as an adaptive opportunity | :47:56. | :47:58. | |
that has led to this hospital being one of the safest three or four in | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
the world. You talk a lot of figures in your book. What sort of | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
difference could make to accidental deaths in hospitals and other areas | :48:09. | :48:17. | |
of help? In America, they estimate in the Journal of patient safety | :48:18. | :48:20. | |
that 400,000 people die every year because of avoidable mistakes. In | :48:21. | :48:27. | |
the UK, using the black methods, they estimate 7500, that is 100 | :48:28. | :48:34. | |
people a week dying because of avoidable errors. -- the Hogan and | :48:35. | :48:39. | |
Black method. Martin is right. It is not just about independent | :48:40. | :48:45. | |
investigations, it is the lessons that surface being metabolised by | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
the system. This is difficult because there are a lot of silos in | :48:50. | :48:55. | |
health care. Significant inroads can be made into that total, even though | :48:56. | :49:02. | |
it is difficult. And you are expecting again, I understand. | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
William is going to have a little brother or sister. We are delighted. | :49:06. | :49:12. | |
I hope it goes well. Some sad news coming into us about Denise Roberts, | :49:13. | :49:18. | |
the TV agony aunt. This Morning has said that she has died after a short | :49:19. | :49:24. | |
battle with cancer. Phillip Schofield has said he's heartbroken | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
to hear the news. She said she is kind, thoughtful, caring and | :49:29. | :49:31. | |
wonderful. Richard Madeley hosted this morning for many years. Good | :49:32. | :49:38. | |
morning. Very sad news. Extremely. Although we knew it was. Coming We | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
got the warning lights about ten days ago. Obviously, she has been | :49:45. | :49:47. | |
ill for a while and it is incredibly sad. But it has not been a | :49:48. | :49:55. | |
blindside, like the sudden news of Ronnie Corbett's passing last night. | :49:56. | :50:04. | |
We knew about -- we started This Morning together in 1988. She has | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
chalked up 28 years. I am not just saying this because of our huge | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
affection, but I think she was probably the best agony aunt in the | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
business. She was underrated somewhat in that regard because she | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
was not flashy. She did not come on, bells and whistles. She just got on | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
with giving very good advice. And very few people will know that when | :50:26. | :50:29. | |
the show was over, Denise would stay in the phone room, sometimes well | :50:30. | :50:32. | |
into the afternoon, talking to people who had not been able to get | :50:33. | :50:36. | |
on the air, continuing to counsel people. She give up so much time and | :50:37. | :50:40. | |
made a difference. She was a truly wonderful, warm hearted and wise | :50:41. | :50:48. | |
woman. The very worst sort. What was her background? What made her get | :50:49. | :50:51. | |
into that? She was quite a successful novelist. By the time she | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
came to This Morning, she had a string of novels under her belt. The | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
reason she was approached by ITV back in the day, I think she had a | :51:00. | :51:07. | |
column in a regional newspaper, and I think that was it. When we | :51:08. | :51:12. | |
auditioned her, along with the other experts that we had at the time, | :51:13. | :51:15. | |
about seven, fashion and cooking, that kind of thing, she shone. I | :51:16. | :51:22. | |
remember that we auditioned some established agony aunts, household | :51:23. | :51:25. | |
names already. And although they were very good, they did not match | :51:26. | :51:30. | |
Denise's authenticity. And her genuineness. And her obvious, | :51:31. | :51:36. | |
serious compassion. She was not in it for a career, she was in it | :51:37. | :51:39. | |
because she liked making a difference. And she did. She was | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
very effective. I imagine she was a fabulous person to have around for | :51:45. | :51:47. | |
all of you. Was she always giving you advice? She did not intrude in | :51:48. | :51:52. | |
that way. She only give advice if asked. As a companion and a friend, | :51:53. | :51:58. | |
she is from the north-east, and she brought all of that good baggage | :51:59. | :52:04. | |
with her. She was a real character. I remember once she heard that Judy | :52:05. | :52:09. | |
had a complete antithesis to musicals. She hates musical theatre. | :52:10. | :52:14. | |
As a birthday surprise, Denise got tickets for the Phantom of the Opera | :52:15. | :52:22. | |
in Manchester. For us all. And Judy went out of politeness, and she | :52:23. | :52:25. | |
absolutely loved it. I can still see Denise leaning forward from her | :52:26. | :52:31. | |
seat, and checking at the emotive points of the performance, that Judy | :52:32. | :52:34. | |
was crying at the right moment, and she was. It was such a lovely thing | :52:35. | :52:41. | |
to do. What would your best memory be of her, effectively? Actually, it | :52:42. | :52:49. | |
will be on the day, October, probably about 9090, at the Albert | :52:50. | :52:55. | |
Dock, when she came in wearing an enormously flamboyant silk pocket | :52:56. | :53:01. | |
for Remembrance Day. -- silk poppy. These days, we wear poppies much | :53:02. | :53:07. | |
earlier, but in those days, it was too early. And the editor very | :53:08. | :53:13. | |
politely said to her, it is a few weeks early, do you mind taking it | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
off, and she went absolutely spare, she got really angry. I have never | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
seen anything like it. Sure enough, an hour later, she went on a wearing | :53:23. | :53:26. | |
this silk poppy. She was not a pushover. Lovely to hear your | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
memories of Denise Robertson. Thank you very much. A great pleasure. | :53:32. | :53:36. | |
We will be hearing from people who will benefit from the new national | :53:37. | :53:45. | |
living wage going up 50p from today. We will also be hearing from | :53:46. | :53:49. | |
businesses, some of whom say that wage increase could force them to go | :53:50. | :53:51. | |
under. An all-star tribute concert | :53:52. | :53:59. | |
to David Bowie was held in New York's Carnegie | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
Hall last night. Debbie Harry, Michael Stipe, | :54:04. | :54:10. | |
Cyndi Lauper and The Pixies are among the musicians who have | :54:11. | :54:12. | |
been honouring David Bowie Originally organised | :54:13. | :54:15. | |
as a retrospective, it become a memorial event after the singer's | :54:16. | :54:18. | |
death from cancer in January. Organisers say they were overwhelmed | :54:19. | :54:21. | |
by requests from performers keen to take part, and had | :54:22. | :54:23. | |
to turn some down. Let's take a look at some of the | :54:24. | :54:27. | |
performances. Seoul there is a star man | :54:28. | :54:36. | |
Seoul we can be heroes just for one day. | :54:37. | :54:51. | |
# don't lean on me, man, cause you can't afford the ticket. We're | :54:52. | :55:01. | |
joined by Matt Everitt, the documentary maker who made a | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
documentary about David Bowie. All the stars coming out to pay tribute. | :55:06. | :55:10. | |
That's right. It was quite fitting, because although David Bowie was | :55:11. | :55:13. | |
born in London, New York was his home for 20 years. He considered | :55:14. | :55:18. | |
himself as a New Yorker. He really enjoyed being in the city, and I | :55:19. | :55:23. | |
think he liked the anonymity that it gave him. He was able to wonder | :55:24. | :55:28. | |
about relatively undisturbed. Apparently he was asked once, do you | :55:29. | :55:33. | |
wear a disguise, and he said, no, I just carry a foreign newspaper under | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
my arm and then it'll will think, if it is a Polish newspaper so it | :55:39. | :55:41. | |
cannot possibly be David Bowie. Carnegie Hall was the place he made | :55:42. | :55:46. | |
his debut in 1972. And loads of people apparently wanted to perform | :55:47. | :55:50. | |
but they could not accommodate them. Actually, there is a follow-on | :55:51. | :55:54. | |
events tonight as well. It is going to be streamed live, I think, as a | :55:55. | :55:59. | |
charity thing, for a small fee. You can watch it online. This is not an | :56:00. | :56:07. | |
official tribute show. The family, while ago, they made a statement | :56:08. | :56:10. | |
saying that they appreciate these shows but they will not do anything | :56:11. | :56:16. | |
as an official family gig. This was just his friends and Tony Visconti, | :56:17. | :56:19. | |
his producer for a long time, who narrated it. It is always quite nice | :56:20. | :56:26. | |
when you see well-known people actually just fans like the rest of | :56:27. | :56:29. | |
us. His impact was so vast. Obviously, this has been talked | :56:30. | :56:38. | |
about so much, and arrange of people, including Pixies, and | :56:39. | :56:44. | |
Michael Stipe, all paying tribute. I don't think it is the last thing | :56:45. | :56:47. | |
that we will see. I think there will be more tributes like this. If you | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
look the footage, you see all these fans turning up with a stripe on | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
their face. He still has that ability inspire passion. And are we | :56:56. | :57:03. | |
seeing a revival, not a revival because he never went away but his | :57:04. | :57:06. | |
music appealing to a new generation who were not aware of him before | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
this? I think there is a bit of that. There will always be artists | :57:11. | :57:14. | |
that will be discovered again and again by different generations and | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
David Bowie will be one of those people. I think we're seeing more | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
acts putting cover versions into their sets. Quite a few people have | :57:23. | :57:30. | |
done that. Prince did a show last week and he played Heroes just on | :57:31. | :57:35. | |
his own on a piano, which was apparently incredible. It just shows | :57:36. | :57:41. | |
that he's a legend and he will always be regarded like that. I have | :57:42. | :57:48. | |
not seen Prince ages. I think he was supposed to be coming to do some | :57:49. | :57:52. | |
shows in Europe so maybe we will see that. -- I have not seen Prince for | :57:53. | :57:58. | |
ages. Let's catch up with the latest weather. Stav has the details. We | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
have some big weather contrasts across the country this morning. The | :58:03. | :58:07. | |
extreme south and south-east, with scenes like this gorgeous picture in | :58:08. | :58:13. | |
Jersey. Further north, into the Midlands, we got some sunshine. A | :58:14. | :58:18. | |
chilly start with frost and mist. Some hazy sunshine, and the cloud | :58:19. | :58:24. | |
thickening up across the north and west. Quite a contrast. It is | :58:25. | :58:34. | |
feeling quite chilly. Through the day, that is how it is going to be, | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
with this area of low pressure moving in from the Atlantic. High | :58:39. | :58:42. | |
pressure further south and east keeping things fine and settled. | :58:43. | :58:46. | |
That divide will continue through the day. It looks like it will turn | :58:47. | :58:49. | |
wetter across north west England and West Wales. Some heavy rain likely | :58:50. | :58:56. | |
across west and south-west in Scotland. Maybe some shelter across | :58:57. | :59:00. | |
the north-east. With a bit of brightness, we could make 12 or 13 | :59:01. | :59:06. | |
across the Moray Firth. Quite chilly across the coast, out of the wind, | :59:07. | :59:16. | |
it will feel colder. Rain in northern and western Wales, maybe as | :59:17. | :59:21. | |
far eastwards as south-west England. For the Midlands, staying dry with | :59:22. | :59:26. | |
hazy sunshine. Overnight, bad weather front will sink further | :59:27. | :59:29. | |
south and eastwards, but will grind to a halt across central areas and | :59:30. | :59:35. | |
will never reach southern areas. Behind it, clearing up, with sky is | :59:36. | :59:40. | |
clear. On either side of bad weather front, it will be chilly in the | :59:41. | :59:44. | |
countryside with mist and fog in places. For the weekend, it is going | :59:45. | :59:51. | |
to be on -- a mixed bag. The wind will be like in general. The | :59:52. | :59:58. | |
pressure situation, on Saturday will import warm here from the | :59:59. | :00:01. | |
mid-continent which will push the weather front further north. Through | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
the day, the brighter skies across the South migrating northwards as | :00:06. | :00:08. | |
that weather front retreats into the far north of England, central and | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
southern Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Here, Wednesday, bright | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
with sunshine, but a. Temperatures generally in single figures, maybe | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
as high as ten. To the south, a lovely day. Feeling much warmer. | :00:23. | :00:30. | |
13-15dC. Onto Sunday, even warmer. We could make the high teens. | :00:31. | :00:42. | |
Welcome to the programme. Coming up for 11am, more than 1 million | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
workers will see their pay go up from today thanks to the national | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
living wage. But will it force some businesses to fold? We will speak to | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
some affected by the changes. The NHS makes thousands of mistakes | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
every year. From today, there are changes to the ways that those | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
errors are investigated. Willie more independent system be enough to | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
change a culture where problems are also remained hidden? Learning those | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
lessons from an investigation can mean that processors have to change. | :01:12. | :01:16. | |
The real test to the NHS is not just that the people do not feel guilty | :01:17. | :01:20. | |
and learn from their lessons but the processes that are associated with | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
every step of care are modified afterwards. My anxiety is that we do | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
not have a governance structure which can really make that happen | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
all the way down the line. And a warning that too little sleep could | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
damage your health. We're not just talking about those nights when you | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
are lying awake for ages, even a solid seven hours could be bad for | :01:41. | :01:41. | |
you. Changes to the living wage - | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
more than a million workers will receive a pay rise today | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
as the new National Living Wage But there are concerns the extra | :01:50. | :01:52. | |
cash could lead to job losses. Maxine is in the BBC Newsroom | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
and has more on that and a summary More than a million | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
workers will receive a pay rise today as the new National | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
Living Wage comes into force. It will mean that employers | :02:08. | :02:11. | |
will have to pay all workers aged 25 or over at least ?7.20 an hour | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
and is expected to give 1.3 million Unions have welcomed the new hourly | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
rate, but business groups have warned that some firms may have | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
to cut jobs as a result Let's go over to York and speak | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
to our business correspondent Ben The business secretary, Sajid Javid, | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
visits the threatened Port Talbot steel works today and is expected | :02:32. | :02:34. | |
to meet some of the workers who fear He's expected to tell them | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
that the government will use all official and diplomatic levers | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
to secure the future The Indian-owned Tata group has | :02:43. | :02:44. | |
announced it's ready to sell off the loss-making business, | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
which employs nearly 15,000 people The knock-on effect is unthinkable, | :02:50. | :03:06. | |
the tone is built on steel, if we lose the steelworks, we will lose | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
Port Talbot as a town, it will become a ghost town is unthinkable | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
for the community at the moment. A teenager has been detained for nine | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
years at the High Court in Edinburgh. He will serve nine years | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
in prison and two years of provision for stabbing the 16-year-old in | :03:26. | :03:27. | |
Aberdeen. Denise Robertson,the agony aunt | :03:28. | :03:29. | |
for ITV's This Morning programme, The show confirmed that she had been | :03:30. | :03:31. | |
suffering from pancreatic cancer. Philip Schofield has said | :03:32. | :03:39. | |
he is 'heartbroken' to hear the news adding: 'she was kind thoughtful, | :03:40. | :03:41. | |
caring and wonderful'. There are now more adults | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
in the world who are obese, than those who are classed | :03:50. | :03:51. | |
as underweight, according Hundreds of scientists, | :03:52. | :03:53. | |
led by a team at Imperial College London, warn that if the current | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
trend continues, one fifth of the world will be obese | :03:58. | :03:59. | |
in ten years' time. Hundreds more armed police officers | :04:00. | :04:07. | |
will be stationed across the country poised to deal with | :04:08. | :04:10. | |
a Paris-style terror attack. Police forces across England | :04:11. | :04:12. | |
and Wales have begun recruiting There's also to be an increase | :04:13. | :04:14. | |
in the number of high-speed Most of the officers will be | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
trained and equipped Police in the Indian city of Kolkata | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
say at least 24 people are now known to have been killed when | :04:24. | :04:30. | |
a partially-built flyover collapsed. At least 100 people | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
were injured in the collapse. The flyover came down | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
in to Kolkata's most Rescuers have been clearing | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
the wreckage since yesterday. Our South Asia Correspondent | :04:38. | :04:45. | |
has more from there. Debbie Harry, Michael Stipe, | :04:46. | :04:52. | |
Cyndi Lauper and The Pixies are among the musicians who have | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
been honouring David Bowie Originally organised | :04:56. | :04:57. | |
as a retrospective, it become a memorial event after the singer's | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
death from cancer in January. Organisers say they were overwhelmed | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
by requests from performers keen to take part, and had | :05:04. | :05:05. | |
to turn some down. That's a summary of the latest news, | :05:06. | :05:21. | |
Isle of Grain more that I have more for you at 10:30pm. Just how much | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
sleep do you get? Call this morning that we should be aiming for much | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
more than most of us are currently getting, we will talk about it. Let | :05:31. | :05:35. | |
us know what you think, do you think you should be getting more. | :05:36. | :05:43. | |
Here's some sport now with Will and more on Sir Chris Hoy's | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
announcement he'll be racing in the Le Mans 24 hour this summer. | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
What is it with these Olympians switching sports? First the Ludwig | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
cyclist Victoria Pendleton, who switched sandals and raced at the | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
Cheltenham Festival and now Sir Chris high announcing he will be | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
fulfilling a childhood dream by competing in this year's Le Mans 24 | :06:08. | :06:16. | |
race. How hard will it be? Jonny May is David Brabham, the former driver. | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
Explain why this race is so prestigious? It is one of the big as | :06:24. | :06:31. | |
watching events in the world, National Geographic rated it number | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
one a few years ago, which is pretty special. It has been going for years | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
and years and it has just got so much history, incredible and you can | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
only really explain it by going there and feeling the atmosphere | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
because when Sir Chris high gets there, it will blow his mind. The | :06:53. | :07:01. | |
Olympics is pretty big but this is such a new environment, driving | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
these cars he sits right in the middle of different degrees. He has | :07:08. | :07:20. | |
to be fully concentrating for hours on end while Helix at the fast cars | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
coming behind and try to get past cars in front, his mind will be all | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
over the place. He will be retested. We can see your beautiful winners | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
trophy. You are not necessarily racing for 24 hours, are you. What | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
are the logistics of the race? One driver doesn't do 24 hours, you have | :07:44. | :07:50. | |
two other team-mates. He cannot do more than four hours in the car. Not | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
very often people do that but you can do up to 3.5 hours, it depends | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
on the time strategy. You are in there for long periods and if it is | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
hot, then the cockpit temperature can be really high. That doesn't | :08:05. | :08:12. | |
help with your concentration. It is a fantastic event and he will | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
absolutely love it, no doubt. For me, looking at his experience going | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
in there, this is more of a test, get a feel for it and build up to | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
one day in the future and hopefully pick up one of these, which I'm sure | :08:26. | :08:33. | |
she is capable of doing! I'm hoping his tree trunk legs will fit behind | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
the steering wheel but when he is in the car, how transferable will have | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
skills be from the bike? Completely different discipline. He is | :08:44. | :08:49. | |
incredibly mentally strong, so you have to be that focused for such | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
long periods of time, which is one of the keys to Le Mans 24 success. | :08:55. | :09:02. | |
He has to learn all the other elements that he has had no real | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
background for. We will have to see how he gets on but he is going to be | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
pretty excited by just being there. Thanks for joining us. The Le Mans | :09:12. | :09:18. | |
24 former winner. What's more trophies underneath the camera to | :09:19. | :09:19. | |
show you at another time! More than a million low-paid workers | :09:20. | :09:27. | |
are getting a pay rise today with the introduction | :09:28. | :09:29. | |
of the National Living Wage. But there are fears of job losses | :09:30. | :09:31. | |
as companies struggle to pay The Living Wage Foundation, | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
which campaigned for the increase, is also calling for businesses | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
to 'aim higher' and pay more The New National Living Wage | :09:38. | :09:40. | |
is ?7.20 an hour and was announced That's 50 pence more | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
than the current National Minimum It only applies to workers | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
aged 25 and over. Those aged 21 to 25 will get | :09:51. | :09:54. | |
the lower rate of 6.70. And anyone paid cash in hand risks | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
missing out altogether. That works out an annual increase | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
of around ?900 a year We can speak to several people now | :10:05. | :10:06. | |
who will feel the impact June O'sullivan owns | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
the Early Years Foundation which runs 32 nurseries | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
across London. Jobeda Ali is the chief executive | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
of Three Sisters Care, which is a home care agency | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
in London and Essex. Richard Barry has two jobs both | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
which pay the minimum wage and Sheridan Swinson runs | :10:27. | :10:28. | |
Aardvark Books and Cafe I will come to you first, Sheridan, | :10:29. | :10:43. | |
you run a business and your viewers that you will have two actually | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
reduced the number of hours that you are paying for and it will impact on | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
the staff in that way. Tell us what impact it will have? We will have to | :10:54. | :11:01. | |
look at the balance. That is a large cost for our business. Whether we | :11:02. | :11:09. | |
end up reducing a lot will depend on circumstances, but by the time the | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
escalator ends in five years, when it will have gone up by a third and | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
I would estimate our sales will go stuff about half of that, so there | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
is a difference that has to be sorted out somehow. In the immediate | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
term, what impact would paying an extra 50p per hour to anyone over | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
25, how much would it cost you? The immediate impact will be quite | :11:38. | :11:43. | |
small, it is more the ongoing impact over the rest of the escalator. Is | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
it a small enough cost for you not to have to absorb elsewhere, or will | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
you make changes as a result? This year, the cost will be negligible. | :11:53. | :11:59. | |
You company employs 670 people. What impact will the living wage have on | :12:00. | :12:08. | |
you? I'm the TV executive, the largest childcare social enterprise | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
in the UK. We have already created an environment where we try to | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
support children from poor families as well as children from families | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
who can afford to pay the going rate. You have to see childcare | :12:20. | :12:26. | |
within a wider context. Currently, we have 35 staff who are not on the | :12:27. | :12:33. | |
London living wage. We have the London living wage to content with | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
because in London everything is more expensive and they are some of the | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
problems we have. How do you phase this in because we were not given | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
any time to do that and how do you deal with the implications of the | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
kind of promotions and the grading is that go with it. Everybody starts | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
at ?7.20. How do you do it for qualified and unqualified staff? We | :12:57. | :13:07. | |
also have to fund 7% on pensions, training opportunities for the start | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
because you want to recruit and keep the best staff, nurture them and | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
that is how you do it. Spell out the impact it will have on the business | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
in terms of extra costs and how that might be met? The childcare | :13:20. | :13:25. | |
business, quite a lot of our children are funded through the | :13:26. | :13:28. | |
government. The government says nowadays it is one of the biggest | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
purchasers of childcare in the country. They pay us a very low | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
rate, Sokoli we subsidise that might substantially. 80% of our costs are | :13:38. | :13:45. | |
staff, so we have very little flexibility and a margin to move in | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
terms of additional costing. Cost of staff is going up, by how much would | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
you estimate over the year? I don't want to put a national figure on it | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
because we had to look at the hours, the opportunities. Those kind of | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
things we are taking into account. When we first discovered this was | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
announced, we looked at how we would do that so we would maintain the | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
staff levels. Good quality childcare, you have to have a lot of | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
staff who are experienced, so if you take more under 25 is, that would | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
have a different effect on the quality of the service. It does you | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
are worried about how your business is going to go because of this. Once | :14:26. | :14:31. | |
only different levels. What will the business do if it does increase | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
costs and how would you deal with that? We would maybe have to take | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
more under 25-year-olds because we don't have to pay that wage, will | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
Beatty to ignore unqualified staff? It has an implication on quality | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
because you align your hourly rates to your qualifications. If you are | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
running a social business and you are targeting needy children, can I | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
afford to take more of those on Lake have to take fewer places for poorer | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
children as I have to put more money into the core business because we | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
have to pay a higher rate stuff. It is a dilemma when you are a social | :15:11. | :15:12. | |
business. You run a carer agency, how do you | :15:13. | :15:21. | |
think the living wage will affect the agency? I cannot disagree with | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
everything you said. Everything you said is accurate and I welcome this | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
very much. As a social enterprise, first of all, I should say that | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
three quarters of social enterprise is already paid the UK living wage. | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
Can you explain what social enterprise means? It does not have | :15:38. | :15:46. | |
one single definition. There are various bodies that define it in the | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
runways. The main thing is that you try to be an ethical employer, and | :15:51. | :15:56. | |
that is where my sisters and I, when we started our business five years | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
ago, we decided to be a social enterprise and pay everyone the | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
living wage. The UK living wage, set by the living wage foundation. And | :16:05. | :16:12. | |
we found that we couldn't. It was really difficult. We have never had | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
to go as low as the minimum wage but we have always paid at least the UK | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
minimum wage. It has taken us four years to get to the point where we | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
can pay the London living wage. And that is? ?9 at the moment. The only | :16:24. | :16:34. | |
way we have got to that position, we have NHS contracts and cancel | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
contracts that require us to pay the London minimum wage. More | :16:38. | :16:41. | |
importantly, they pay us enough to pay the London minimum wage. When | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
you have a two tier system in social care, I can work with the same is | :16:46. | :16:56. | |
ECGs and councils, and when I not on their contracted list, they will pay | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
me so little that I cannot pay the minimum wage. -- the same CCGs. I | :17:00. | :17:11. | |
have to subsidise that somehow. The government, they fund two thirds of | :17:12. | :17:13. | |
all social care in this country. They are the one main customer but | :17:14. | :17:20. | |
they do not pay us enough to pay the living wage so we have to find the | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
money elsewhere. And where do you find it? This is the system. Because | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
if you pay for care for your mother, and I am telling you that this | :17:31. | :17:34. | |
person who is caring for someone who might be on their deathbed, and we | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
do a lot of end of life care, and she will get ?3, the minimum wage, | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
for coming to see a mother, state funded care, and a majority of those | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
are only 30 minute visits, this lady will come across and see your mother | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
and get ?3, which is pretty much just her bus fare? You will say, no, | :17:56. | :18:00. | |
I am not having that. If you are paying for it, you want the person | :18:01. | :18:03. | |
looking after your parents to not be exploited, to be happy and confident | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
in their job to deliver a good service. But if you are not paying | :18:08. | :18:16. | |
for it, you are not thinking about it, and we're not saying that our | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
clients do not have the same values but they are not thinking about it | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
because as far as they know, the state is paying for it, without | :18:23. | :18:24. | |
knowing that the state is not. Wealthier people are subsidising it. | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
Richard, you are on the receiving end of the system, doing two jobs. | :18:29. | :18:37. | |
You will get a pay rise. I will be, it will be going up to ?7.20 an | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
hour. For me, it has been too low for too long. The minimum wage is | :18:43. | :18:45. | |
just catching up at the moment to where it should be. I have had | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
family members struggling, friends struggling, even just to pay bills. | :18:51. | :18:57. | |
I think now, at ?7 20, we are at a point where we can just about live. | :18:58. | :19:06. | |
So you will get ?19... ?19 a week more. What difference will that | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
mean? Sometimes that will mean that I don't go overdrawn or I do not | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
have to borrow from family members, which would be great for me to be | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
self-reliant. It does make a big difference. People getting in touch | :19:19. | :19:26. | |
on the social media. Christopher on Facebook says that may be CEOs | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
should take a pay cut. If they are worried about the minimum wage, it | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
is the people at the bottom that make the money. Being on zero our | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
contract, I do not know if I will see a difference today. In the end, | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
businesses make a profit, so does it just come out of the profit margin? | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
It is tricky. If it is a childcare business, it is not a direct source | :19:48. | :19:53. | |
of profit in that way, and particularly if you were running a | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
social business, you do not have that profit to pour into | :19:58. | :20:03. | |
disadvantage. That is what you would do, you would purchase more places. | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
What we will see with childcare, because it is part of | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
infrastructure, we are enabled in London, 76% of people go back to | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
work. But if they cannot access childcare, they cannot go back to | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
work. If childcare becomes too expensive, with more costs around | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
staffing, the main cost, it becomes problematic for parents to be able | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
to come back to work and the whole thing has a bigger impact. Nobody is | :20:27. | :20:33. | |
saying you should be -- should not be paying ?7 20, really we want to | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
pay the London living wage, ?9 16 at the moment, but it is facing it. He | :20:39. | :20:45. | |
is not simply about what you get an hour, it is about developed | :20:46. | :20:47. | |
opportunities and the ways that you face things in. But the guy that has | :20:48. | :20:55. | |
just written and, with the big companies, over 20% of them are not | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
paying the living wage. Now today, all of their cleaners will get ?7.20 | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
an hour, but that is not even a quarter of the bonus from a person | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
at the top. He is right, but don't forget that small businesses, family | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
run businesses like mine, we are exempt from minimum wage low. So | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
what actually happens, a small business running a cafe or | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
something, either he can increases cost or he takes the cut. That is | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
what I think a lot of workers and big businesses do not recognise, the | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
cuts come from the owners of these small businesses not taking as much | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
money as they work and deterring people from becoming entrepreneurs. | :21:36. | :21:38. | |
It is bad for the market. Sheridan, is that pertinent to you? It | :21:39. | :21:44. | |
certainly is. During the recession, there were months where I paid staff | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
and not myself and I think that most small businesses have that | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
experience. I would like to bring in one other point, which is the uneven | :21:54. | :22:00. | |
geographical impact of this. I am based in a beautiful area of the | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
country, on the Welsh Marches, but this is a low income area, a low | :22:05. | :22:11. | |
employment area, and the impact will be massively bigger than in the | :22:12. | :22:22. | |
south-east or London. I live in the south-east, I live in Shoreham, | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
close to Brighton, and ?7.20 for me, although it sounds like a big | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
increase, 50p, I do not think, I think that is just the start. I have | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
heard Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat, talking about ?8 or ?8. | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
And I think that is more the level we should be at. That would make me | :22:42. | :22:47. | |
feel even more comfortable than ?7. I do not think they have gone far | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
enough yet. Thank you all very much. Dave has e-mailed to say, wages go | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
up on the cost of living goal -- wages go up and the cost of living | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
goes up. Can someone tell me what that means to people on zero hours | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
contracts? On my contract, that will go up as well. It does not matter | :23:10. | :23:16. | |
weather you have an employer with a contract or a zero hours contracts, | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
it will still go up. Thank you all very much. Still to come, if you | :23:20. | :23:27. | |
were sleeping fewer than seven hours a night, it is not enough. And | :23:28. | :23:34. | |
should the cost of producing great music be irreversible hearing damage | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
to a musician? This is what a renowned viol player is claiming | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
happens to him. He says his hearing was destroyed by brass instruments | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
placed behind him during rehearsals when he was a member of the Royal | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
Opera House Orchestra. Now Chris is suing his former | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
employers in a civil case, claiming the hearing loss has | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
ruined his 25 year career. In court papers seen by the BBC it | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
says the sound on the orchestra's pit peaked at around 137 decibels, | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
which is roughly the sound The Musician's Union say hearing | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
damage is a major problem The Royal Opera House denies | :24:11. | :24:13. | |
it is responsible, but around a quarter of its players | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
suffer hearing illnesses. Our legal eagle Clive Coleman | :24:18. | :24:19. | |
went to meet Chris. For most of us live, music was | :24:20. | :24:30. | |
Chris's life. I have been a professional musician since I was | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
17, for the last quarter of a century. Music was my income and my | :24:36. | :24:45. | |
everything. The son of a composer, Chris played the viol with some of | :24:46. | :24:48. | |
the world was my greatest orchestras. He is seen here playing | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
at the Royal Albert Hall in 2005. In court documents seen by the BBC, | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
Chris claims that his healing was -- is hearing was irreversibly damaged | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
during rehearsals of Richard Wagner's thunderous developed | :25:08. | :25:10. | |
Sheila, from brass instruments positioned immediately behind him in | :25:11. | :25:18. | |
the pit. Normal sounds like banging cups and glasses together, that is | :25:19. | :25:22. | |
unpleasant, painful noise. My daughter last year, she has a very | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
powerful voice, she was crying so much that I actually got noise | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
induced vertigo from it because of my injury and I ended up in bed for | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
three weeks. To carry out ordinary, everyday tasks, Chris as to wear ear | :25:39. | :25:51. | |
protectors. His son is an outstanding French horn player, but | :25:52. | :25:54. | |
since Chris's injury, he has not been able to listen to his son | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
practice or play. He has missed public constructs like this one last | :25:59. | :26:05. | |
year. The effects of loud rock music are well-known, Pete Townshend is | :26:06. | :26:13. | |
just one rock icon to have suffered. The doctor said, well you are not | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
actually going deaf but I would advise you to learn to lip read. You | :26:18. | :26:24. | |
were a violinist? What is less well-known is that the problem of | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
hearing loss and injuries are common in the more sophisticated and sedate | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
world of classical music. Instruments are louder than they | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
ever were before. 200 years ago, they were built of different | :26:37. | :26:39. | |
material, which makes for a difference. And conductors are | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
allowed to ride roughshod over health and safety considerations. | :26:45. | :26:46. | |
They put players on the stage where they are in harms way. There are | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
over 100 players in the orchestra to you at the Royal Opera House. The | :26:52. | :26:53. | |
BBC has learned over a quarter complain of | :26:54. | :27:08. | |
mild or occasional during illness. And in the yearbook for last, there | :27:09. | :27:10. | |
were seven cases and 117 weeks of sickness leave taken. And that is | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
not music to anyone's years. The Royal Opera House does not accept | :27:14. | :27:15. | |
that the rehearsals led to Chris's injuries or that it is responsible. | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
In a statement, it said his claim is a complex medical and legal issue | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
which is still under investigation. All sides are keen to reach a | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
resolution. The matter is now the subject of legal proceedings. | :27:27. | :27:33. | |
Whatever the resolution up Chris Goldscheider's life has changed | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
beyond recognition. Looking at it there, how do you feel to know that | :27:38. | :27:40. | |
you cannot take it out and make it could like you used to. For someone | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
who spent nine hours playing update, it must be like for a footballer to | :27:46. | :27:55. | |
not be able to kick a football. Clive Coleman reporting. Today, | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
Apple is the most valuable and possibly most powerful company on | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
earth. It all started 40 years ago with three men in an apartment in | :28:04. | :28:04. | |
mountain view. We all know the story | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
of the late Steve Jobs. The nerdier among us will also know | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
about the flamboyant Steve Wozniak. But could you name the third | :28:14. | :28:16. | |
co-founder of Apple? The man who designed | :28:17. | :28:18. | |
the company's very first logo? Our North America technology | :28:19. | :28:20. | |
reporter Dave Lee went to meet him. Ronald Wayne, on May 17, 1934. In | :28:21. | :28:35. | |
the midst of the great depression. Steve Jobs had this focus. Once he | :28:36. | :28:43. | |
got an idea in his head, that was it. And you never wanted to be | :28:44. | :28:46. | |
between him and where he wanted to go. You would wind up with the | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
Prince on your forehead. This is the contract. I personally tied to this | :28:51. | :28:56. | |
up. I was a little more diplomatic than he was. There was a problem he | :28:57. | :29:00. | |
was having at that time with Steve Wozniak. I said, come over to the | :29:01. | :29:06. | |
house and we will chat. It took 45 minutes, less than an hour to get | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
him to understand, no, you cannot do it like that for a business | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
enterprise. OK, fine, he bought into it and understood. At that moment in | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
time, Steve jobs said, we are going to form a company. 12 days later, I | :29:21. | :29:33. | |
went down to the registrar's office and had my name taken off the | :29:34. | :29:35. | |
contract. If the company goes poof, we are | :29:36. | :29:52. | |
individually liable for the debts of the company. Jobs and Steve Wozniak | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
did not have to Nichols to rub together. I had a house, a bank | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
account, and a car, and I was reachable. Some months later, I get | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
a letter in the mail with a cheque for $1500, I believe, and the letter | :30:08. | :30:14. | |
said, all you have to do is sign away every possible interest you | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
could have in the Apple Computer company, and the check is yours. | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
Well, I figured that I had already done that, and as far as I was | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
concerned, it was found money. So I went ahead and signed. People will | :30:29. | :30:37. | |
watch this and they will say, surely as Ron is about to go to sleep, he | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
must often think of what could have been with Apple? Do you? I would | :30:42. | :30:48. | |
have wind up heading a very large documentation department at the back | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
of the building, shovelling papers for the next 20 years of my life and | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
that was not the future I saw for myself. Find something that you | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
enjoy doing so much that you would be willing to do it for nothing and | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
you will never work a day in your life. | :31:05. | :31:20. | |
Good to hear his perspective on life. | :31:21. | :31:27. | |
We will hear about a new scheme to make wants more peaceful places to | :31:28. | :31:40. | |
speak. Well and you scheme helping police crackdown on hate crimes | :31:41. | :31:43. | |
solve the problem? Let's go to the BBC Newsroom | :31:44. | :31:45. | |
for more on that and a summary More than a million workers | :31:46. | :31:48. | |
will receive a pay rise today as the new National Living | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
Wage comes into force. It will mean that employers | :31:54. | :31:56. | |
will have to pay all workers aged 25 or over at least ?7.20 an hour | :31:57. | :32:15. | |
and is expected to give 1.3 million Unions have welcomed | :32:16. | :32:18. | |
the new hourly rate, but business groups have warned that | :32:19. | :32:21. | |
some firms may have to cut jobs A teenager has been detained | :32:22. | :32:24. | |
for nine years for killing sixteen year-old Bailey Gwynne | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
at an Aberdeen secondary The youth who can't be named | :32:29. | :32:30. | |
for legal reasons will serve 9 years in prison and two years supervision | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
for stabbing the 16 year old Bailey The business secretary, Sajid Javid, | :32:35. | :32:37. | |
today visits the threatened Port Talbot steel works - | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
and is expected to meet some of the workers who | :32:42. | :32:43. | |
fear for their jobs. He's expected to tell them | :32:44. | :32:45. | |
that the government will use all official and diplomatic levers | :32:46. | :32:47. | |
to secure the future The Indian-owned Tata group has | :32:48. | :32:50. | |
announced its ready to sell off the loss-making business, | :32:51. | :32:53. | |
which employs nearly fifteen Aaron and viola player is suing the | :32:54. | :33:00. | |
Royal Opera house in London for his career and hearing. He says his | :33:01. | :33:05. | |
hearing was destroyed by Bracek instruments placed immediately | :33:06. | :33:07. | |
behind him during rehearsals when he was a member of the orchestra at the | :33:08. | :33:11. | |
Royal Opera house, the musicians union says hearing damage is a huge | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
problem for musicians playing in orchestras. The Royal Opera house | :33:17. | :33:18. | |
denies it is responsible. Denise Robertson,the agony aunt | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
for ITV's This Morning programme, The show confirmed that she had been | :33:24. | :33:25. | |
suffering from pancreatic cancer. Philip Schofield has said | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
he is 'heartbroken' to hear the news adding: 'she was kind thoughtful, | :33:30. | :33:31. | |
caring and wonderful'. That's a summary of the latest news, | :33:32. | :33:44. | |
join me for BBC Newsroom live Here's some sport now with Will - | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
with news of boxer Nick Blackwell, and a sportsman who's been | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
in a very similar position. The British boxer Nick Blackwell is | :33:52. | :33:58. | |
expected to wake from his induced coma in the next 2- seeded according | :33:59. | :34:04. | |
to his family. He suffered a small bleed on the brain on Saturday after | :34:05. | :34:08. | |
the title fight against Chris Eubank Jr. But in's more successful | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
Olympian will fulfil his childhood dream when he switches to Le Mans | :34:14. | :34:22. | |
24. The West Indies will be represented in both the men's and | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
women's T20 finals after the men completed a seven wicket victory | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
over the hosts yesterday. They will face England in Sunday's final with | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
the woman's team taking on Australia. Nick Blackwell beginning | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
that recovery in hospital. One man who knows dumping about what he is | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
going through is the British inventor William Fox, the three-time | :34:44. | :34:47. | |
prolific medallist has been out of action since raised in an induced | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
coma after falling at the horse Championships in October and will | :34:53. | :34:59. | |
return to action this weekend. We can speak to Great Britain 's most | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
successful writer. You have won it all. -- more successful rider. After | :35:05. | :35:13. | |
six months you about competing, people would say you are crazy, you | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
could have an easy life presenting the Olympics beside Clare Balding! | :35:18. | :35:24. | |
It is a sign of madness but I love riding my horses. I have a fantastic | :35:25. | :35:30. | |
team you and my vision is back to normal thanks to the doctor in | :35:31. | :35:34. | |
Bournemouth and I am able to ride again and it is what I do, looking | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
forward to tomorrow. That is something in you in particular | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
button sportsmen and sportswoman, you have to decide to go back and | :35:44. | :35:51. | |
put yourself in that position. To 19 year it is quite a big deal what | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
they had to go through while I was recovering was a great deal. The | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
fact that it is all systems go, I am lucky. It is what I love doing and | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
what I can do, what I know how to do and we have got the system here to | :36:06. | :36:15. | |
do it. This might sound like a silly question, what is it like when | :36:16. | :36:20. | |
you're in an induced coma, are you aware at all of what is going on, | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
are you aware you are alive in that situation? You are not aware of | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
anything, my memory from the occasion is scant, unluckily. I have | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
had it easiest, anybody I run the attack had it much worse. The | :36:35. | :36:46. | |
battery has just gone! Limit for me it has been easy, my memory is gone | :36:47. | :36:52. | |
from that, I hardly remember a thing or hardly remember being in France | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
and I was there for a few weeks but I am Bagnaia and all systems go. I | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
think it is much harder for the poor people who suffered looking at me | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
and wondering how I might be one day. What advice would you have for | :37:05. | :37:10. | |
somebody like Nick Blackwell and be a hearing good news from the boxing | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
world. He is to come out of the induced coma in the next few days. | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
The recovery process, taking your time, he will never box again but | :37:20. | :37:22. | |
you must be able to relate to his situation. Everybody said to me, | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
take your time, not to hurry. Don't expect great things and the brain is | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
amazing at recovering and it does recover in its own time. I have been | :37:36. | :37:41. | |
lucky, it has taken a few months but can take up to a year and you can be | :37:42. | :37:46. | |
back to normal again. An astonishing man, we wish you all the best and | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
good luck this weekend. Thank you very much. The incredible William | :37:51. | :37:55. | |
Fox Pitt, surrounded by rosettes. Margaret Thatcher famously survived | :37:56. | :38:08. | |
on just four hours of sleep a night. but the inventor Nikola Tesla never | :38:09. | :38:11. | |
slept for more than two. Winston Churchill was a night owl | :38:12. | :38:14. | |
but took a two hour nap every day - and when Napoleon Bonaparte | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
was asked how many hours sleep people need, he is said to have | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
replied: "Six for a man, seven for a woman, | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
eight for a fool." Well - today the Royal Society | :38:25. | :38:26. | |
for Public Health is warning that too many of us are on the wrong | :38:27. | :38:29. | |
side of that advice - So much so that they want | :38:30. | :38:32. | |
the government to intervene and issue guidance with a so-called | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
'slumber number' for the hours of shut-eye we should | :38:37. | :38:38. | |
get every night. Let's speak to Shirley Cramer | :38:39. | :38:40. | |
who is the Chief Executive of the Royal Society | :38:41. | :38:42. | |
for Public Health, who published Do people ever show off about how | :38:43. | :38:50. | |
much sleep they get, it is quite a thing? People sometimes it get four | :38:51. | :38:57. | |
hours a night and five hours a night and it should be seeing it is not | :38:58. | :39:01. | |
something to boast about, you should get between 7-9 hours if you are an | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
adult so the average slumber number would be between that. I very rarely | :39:07. | :39:15. | |
hate that. What impact is it having? Sleep deprivation has really | :39:16. | :39:21. | |
negative impacts on both the physical and mental health and we | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
know this from research which says that if you are sleep deprived and | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
in one of those ship rolls or in a job or you are getting much less | :39:31. | :39:35. | |
sleep, you are much more at risk for cardiovascular disease, for cancer, | :39:36. | :39:38. | |
for diabetes, for eating properly and for depression. We need to think | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
about sleep in the same way we think about all the other things that are | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
good for our health. The same way we think about our good diet or | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
physical activity, and think about sleep as being one of those issues | :39:53. | :39:57. | |
that we should all be concerned about and should all hope that we | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
get a bit more sleep. There are often stories about sleep, but this | :40:01. | :40:06. | |
is the first time there seems to be a message trying to come out | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
properly to say, don't see it as a waste of time, but actually | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
something that could really have an impact on your health. It really | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
does because it is restorative and even though we don't understand | :40:22. | :40:25. | |
every single baton the process run that, sleep researchers have | :40:26. | :40:29. | |
discovered just how good it is for us. For example, if you are sleep | :40:30. | :40:33. | |
deprived, you're more likely to have an accident and one in five road | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
traffic accidents are to do with sleep deprivation and being tired. | :40:38. | :40:43. | |
Accidents at home, if you are sleep deprived as well. It does put us all | :40:44. | :40:50. | |
at risk for a whole host of issues and chronic conditions are growing | :40:51. | :40:53. | |
in our society and as we are getting fatter and older, these are also | :40:54. | :40:58. | |
issues about sleep deprivation that we have to consider and think about | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
how we might help ourselves and how the government might help us to get | :41:03. | :41:09. | |
a better night getting sleep. We are suggesting that if you are being top | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
to health care worker they might ask you about your sleep pattern, how | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
are you doing with sleep, are you getting enough, so that people think | :41:17. | :41:24. | |
about sleep is a public health issue. When you get into any pattern | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
of behaviour it is all was hard to break, there are different reasons | :41:29. | :41:34. | |
as to why people get that and insomnia is something that affects | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
people and it is effectively out of their control. It is a really | :41:39. | :41:44. | |
vicious cycle if you are in one of the sleep disorders. Insomnia is | :41:45. | :41:47. | |
defined as somebody who has difficulty falling asleep three | :41:48. | :41:51. | |
nights in the week for three months and then you are having fewer days, | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
so you are grumpy or cannot concentrate during the day and at | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
that case you need some support and that might be through medication, so | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
sleeping tablets or cognitive behaviour therapy and we are calling | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
for more cognitive behaviour therapy to be available, it is tricky for | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
GPs because not too much of this is available and we are now having a | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
new app which is a digital CBT app because some people can get more | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
support, but sleep apnoea, some people have trouble breathing when | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
they are sleeping and waking up all the time. For that between 10-15% of | :42:27. | :42:35. | |
the population are affected by these persistent sleep problems. You talk | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
about an app being helpful, but the phones are often very unhelpful. For | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
many of us,, lots of us, the last thing you look at that night when | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
you are playing away on your phone and the first thing you reach for in | :42:49. | :42:51. | |
the morning and you can fritter away time when you should really be | :42:52. | :42:58. | |
crashing out. With adolescence and young people it is bad and from | :42:59. | :43:01. | |
American research we know that the more devices you have in your | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
bedroom at night, looking at your smartphone, computer. Whatever it | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
is, the less likely you are to have the right amount of sleep and that | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
impairs learning for young people and so what we really need to know | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
is try to think about getting those devices out of the bedroom we know | :43:22. | :43:22. | |
what we should do! Some news to bring you | :43:23. | :43:34. | |
coming out of India - and police there say they've | :43:35. | :43:36. | |
detained five officials of the construction company | :43:37. | :43:38. | |
that was building an overpass in Kolkata that collapsed, | :43:39. | :43:40. | |
killing 23 people. Kolkata police said the five | :43:41. | :43:42. | |
officials were detained today for questioning about why | :43:43. | :43:44. | |
the overpass fell in a busy neighborhood, leaving an enormous | :43:45. | :43:46. | |
pile of concrete slabs Twenty-three people were killed | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
and more than 80 people were injured If you've ever spent | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
the night in hospital - you'll know that it's usually a time | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
when your body needs a good rest and time to recuperate, | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
but how has that experience been for you, did you struggle to get | :44:04. | :44:05. | |
proper, because of a noisy ward - That was a re-creation of noise | :44:06. | :44:11. | |
you could hear on a ward which was used in training | :44:12. | :44:35. | |
by researchers at Oxford University. They've been working | :44:36. | :44:37. | |
with staff on the ICU ward at John Radcliffe Hospital | :44:38. | :44:39. | |
to lower noise levels. Lets talk to Julie Darbyshire - | :44:40. | :44:41. | |
a Critical Care Research Programme Manager at the University | :44:42. | :44:44. | |
of Oxford. Thank you very much for joining us. | :44:45. | :44:52. | |
A lot of those noises are an integral part of what is going on in | :44:53. | :44:57. | |
the ward, so how easy is it to tone it down? There are a number of | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
things we can do, so what we're doing is specifically looking at the | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
intensive care unit where the world health organisation say levels | :45:06. | :45:08. | |
should be somewhere between 30-35 decibel is, so that is lower than a | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
public library. Anybody in a hospital environment will tell you | :45:14. | :45:17. | |
it is not what it's like. We put our measuring devices into the intensive | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
care units in the Oxford area and found that it was more like 55-60 | :45:23. | :45:30. | |
decibel pool match, much like a busy restaurant -- 55-60 decibels. We | :45:31. | :45:39. | |
have put the staff on a bed and play sounds to them and we move around | :45:40. | :45:42. | |
the bed as we were delivering care to them like nurses and doctors | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
would what they have said is that it is enlightening and they are | :45:48. | :45:50. | |
surprised at how disorientating it can be just lying on the bed without | :45:51. | :45:53. | |
knowing what is going on and even familiar sounds, they cannot work | :45:54. | :45:57. | |
out what they are, so raising awareness of what makes what kind of | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
noise and what effect it can have on patients is really important. | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
Woodbridge is talking about the impact that not enough sleep can | :46:08. | :46:12. | |
have on health. If you are in hospital and you need to be | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
recovering, what impact could it have on patients? -- we were just | :46:17. | :46:23. | |
talking. There is evidence that sleep deprivation extends hospital | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
stays. Getting that sleep every night is really important. In the | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
intensive care unit, it is particularly bad. Patients can | :46:33. | :46:35. | |
expect to get something like three or four hours of sleep in a full 24 | :46:36. | :46:41. | |
hours, and that is very fragmented. They will fall asleep for five | :46:42. | :46:44. | |
minutes at a time. It is nothing like the restorative sleep that you | :46:45. | :46:50. | |
or I would get at home. Obviously, you have given people working in the | :46:51. | :46:53. | |
hospital the chance to see what it is like from a patient's | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
perspective, how much of the difference could potentially make? | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
It could make a huge difference. We are currently measuring the noise | :47:02. | :47:06. | |
levels and talking to patients to find out what difference it has | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
made. We have just started this programme and we have been running | :47:11. | :47:13. | |
it for a couple of months, so in a few months we should be able to have | :47:14. | :47:17. | |
some results and say, look, these changes that you can make, we have | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
changed metal bins for plastic ones, some simple environmental changes, | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
so if we can say this has made a difference, it has made the unit | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
quieter and patients feel better for it, then we would like to take that | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
nationally. And if it does translate, to shorter patient stays, | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
then obviously that is a big if at the moment, because it will not be | :47:41. | :47:43. | |
clear how much of a dividend will make, but it could have quite a big | :47:44. | :47:50. | |
impact? It could. Absolutely. Every patient day in an intensive care | :47:51. | :47:54. | |
unit costs the national health service about ?2000. Julie | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
Derbyshire, thank you very much. Pleasure. | :48:01. | :48:02. | |
Police forces in England and Wales are to start recording hate crimes | :48:03. | :48:05. | |
against Muslims in a separate category in their crime | :48:06. | :48:11. | |
Fiyaz Mughal is the founder of Tell Mama, a support | :48:12. | :48:15. | |
group which measures and monitors anti-Muslim incidents. | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
Thank you for coming in. Obviously, we have known this is coming in but | :48:20. | :48:29. | |
from today, hate crimes will have to be specifically recorded. Indeed. It | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
is a separate recording mechanism and that is a positive thing. It | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
provides a real opportunity to see the level and scale of issues, | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
particularly affecting Muslim communities around anti-muscle and | :48:42. | :48:44. | |
prejudice. It is a positive step forward. They do this with | :48:45. | :48:51. | |
anti-Semitic recordings, so it is about parity, ensuring that records | :48:52. | :48:54. | |
are accurate and reflect what is happening in society. It is almost a | :48:55. | :48:59. | |
question of why is it taking so long, when it is already connected | :49:00. | :49:05. | |
to other hate crimes. Good point. The government has made a bold step | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
in doing this. It is much needed and it is finally here. We have been | :49:10. | :49:12. | |
recording this for the last four years. No one will be getting police | :49:13. | :49:19. | |
data through data sharing, and it will give us an accurate picture. I | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
think it is a positive step forward. Over the four years that you have | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
been recording hate crimes against Muslims, what sort of crimes are you | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
recording and what is happening with the statistics? Are they changing | :49:33. | :49:37. | |
much? They are changing rapidly given international and national | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
incidents. When there is a terrorist incident, there will be a spike or a | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
peek. After the murder of Lee Rigby, after the terrorist issues in Paris, | :49:47. | :49:53. | |
after Charlie Hebdo, there were significant spikes. Sadly, it is a | :49:54. | :49:56. | |
growing problem of anti-Muslim prejudice. I think this year we will | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
see a doubling of cases coming to us, and if we had the statistics | :50:03. | :50:08. | |
from the three forces that have given statistics, today we are | :50:09. | :50:12. | |
looking at about 2500 incidents. It is a growing issue. The kind of | :50:13. | :50:18. | |
issues we pick up, we pick up general abuse, mainly towards | :50:19. | :50:21. | |
visible Muslim women at a street level, and also damage to mosques. | :50:22. | :50:27. | |
Just the other day we had racist graffiti, for example, in Dewsbury. | :50:28. | :50:30. | |
We picked up incidents where there have been Arsenal attempts -- arson | :50:31. | :50:35. | |
attempts against Islamic institutions. A range of incidents, | :50:36. | :50:42. | |
mostly general abuse targeting Muslim women. Specifically recording | :50:43. | :50:45. | |
them, what difference will this make? It is not that these crimes | :50:46. | :50:49. | |
are not being dealt with, it is just that they are not being listed as | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
official statistics. It is really important because these incidents | :50:55. | :50:57. | |
have an impact on a sense of identity and integration, and it is | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
important for public policy that would get a grip on what is actually | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
taking place and that can change public policy and help us understand | :51:06. | :51:09. | |
issues not only of integration but how big impact on identity and even | :51:10. | :51:13. | |
extremism. The main thing is to understand the needs of the victim. | :51:14. | :51:17. | |
It is about supporting victims and understanding what is happening out | :51:18. | :51:19. | |
there in society. Thank you very much. Thank you for your comments | :51:20. | :51:27. | |
about our story earlier on about how the NHS must get better at learning | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
at its mistakes -- from its mistakes. One viewer has contacted | :51:32. | :51:38. | |
us saying, my dad is still feeling the effects of a botched operation | :51:39. | :51:45. | |
in the 70s. Hugh says, I owe my life to the NHS and lives are saved every | :51:46. | :51:47. | |
day. Earlier I spoke to Melissa Mead, | :51:48. | :51:51. | |
whose year old son William died of sepsis after repeated visits | :51:52. | :51:54. | |
to the GP and a call William began to get brutally at the | :51:55. | :52:02. | |
beginning of October and developed a very nasty cough. Over the preceding | :52:03. | :52:09. | |
11 weeks, he started vomiting, coughing up phlegm. We repeatedly | :52:10. | :52:12. | |
went back to the doctor. We saw a different doctor and we were just | :52:13. | :52:19. | |
sent away, saying it was just a cough, just a virus. Until 36 hours | :52:20. | :52:27. | |
before he died, he had a temperature of 40, and we went into the GP. We | :52:28. | :52:35. | |
thought it was a thorough examination but it later transpired | :52:36. | :52:38. | |
that it was far from that. We took William Holman, and called 111 the | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
following day because we were concerned. We spoke to an out of | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
hours doctor and they told us it was not an emergency. Leaving him in bed | :52:49. | :52:53. | |
was the best place for him, they said. The next day, we woke up to | :52:54. | :53:00. | |
every parent's worst nightmare, to find your child has passed away. And | :53:01. | :53:07. | |
there were errors which have subsequently been acknowledged. It | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
must be so hard for you to hear that it could have been different. I | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
think the worst possible thing that can possibly happen in any one's | :53:16. | :53:19. | |
life is to lose a child. To then find out that the child died in what | :53:20. | :53:24. | |
was unavoidable and preventable circumstance is beyond, retention. | :53:25. | :53:30. | |
Especially when you have taken your child to them repeatedly with the | :53:31. | :53:36. | |
symptoms they have been presenting ample symptoms have been not | :53:37. | :53:39. | |
recognised, and you are not listen to as a parent. We are the people | :53:40. | :53:44. | |
that know William the most because we are with him 24 hours a day. To | :53:45. | :53:51. | |
be listened to is important. How did you feel everything was handled once | :53:52. | :53:57. | |
it became clear that things could have been done differently? Weren't | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
you listened to then? It takes a long time to get to a point where | :54:03. | :54:07. | |
the organisations involved start investigating. We had an inquest | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
first. But there is a huge gap. Nobody comes to you and says, that | :54:12. | :54:19. | |
is -- this is what is going to happen, these are your options. We | :54:20. | :54:22. | |
had to turn to the internet to find out what would happen and what our | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
rights were, what our choices were. And when the investigation began | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
after the inquest, it felt like a disenfranchised process, where they | :54:34. | :54:38. | |
had created a culture of them and asked. You are met with almost a | :54:39. | :54:43. | |
defence because obviously it was apparent that there were holes in | :54:44. | :54:50. | |
William's care, and it always seems that they are trying to shy away | :54:51. | :54:53. | |
from saying that they have made this mistake because they do not want to | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
be blamed. But we do not want to blame people, want for it to not | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
happen again. We don't want to be in this position, asking these | :55:02. | :55:04. | |
questions but equally, we have every right to know the answer to these | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
questions. People forget that we are William's voice as his parents. It | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
is important to be part of that process. | :55:14. | :55:15. | |
An all-star tribute concert to David Bowie took place | :55:16. | :55:18. | |
Cyndi Lauper, Debbie Harry, Michael Stipe and The Pixies | :55:19. | :55:21. | |
were among the musicians that appeared. | :55:22. | :55:22. | |
Originally organised as a retrospective, it become | :55:23. | :55:26. | |
a memorial event after the singer's death from cancer in January. | :55:27. | :55:29. | |
Organisers say they were overwhelmed by requests from performers keen | :55:30. | :55:32. | |
to take part, and had to turn some down. | :55:33. | :55:34. | |
Let's take a look at some of the performances | :55:35. | :55:36. | |
# There's a Starman waiting in the sky. # we can be heroes just for one | :55:37. | :56:07. | |
day. # Hey man! Leave me alone. # Hey | :56:08. | :56:20. | |
man! # it ain't easy. | :56:21. | :56:30. | |
# Don't explain what I have to know. # Sitting in the quicksand of my | :56:31. | :57:01. | |
thoughts. # Because I ain't got the power any | :57:02. | :57:09. | |
more. # We can be heroes, just for one | :57:10. | :57:15. | |
day. Thank you everybody. God bless David | :57:16. | :57:21. | |
Bowie. Tributes to David Bowie. Let's bring you more of your | :57:22. | :57:24. | |
comments about noisy wards in hospitals. Lots of you are | :57:25. | :57:30. | |
advertising with the report today about the impact of noise in | :57:31. | :57:36. | |
hospitals. Dorothy e-mails to say, I remember having my first baby in | :57:37. | :57:39. | |
hospital and I could not sleep because of doctors and nurses coming | :57:40. | :57:42. | |
down to the word on their brakes and having a jolly time in the office. | :57:43. | :57:52. | |
Keith has e-mailed to say the NHS has done research on noise, and we | :57:53. | :57:59. | |
have years, so it seems obvious. -- we have years. Always great to get | :58:00. | :58:05. | |
your input, whatever we are discussing. When we are not on air, | :58:06. | :58:10. | |
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online. Just visit our programme page: | :58:21. | :58:29. | |
This is the one opportunity that I have to show them something | :58:30. | :58:37. | |
ALL: Oooh! Mm-hm. | :58:38. | :58:43. | |
Wow! EXCITED CHATTER | :58:44. | :58:46. | |
Well, that is a really rare glimpse of an incredible elusive creature. | :58:47. | :58:52. |