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In a court ruling that could affect families everywhere, | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
judges are to rule in the case of a father who took his | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
The council wanted to fine him - magistrates disagreed. | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
We have exclusive access to a new police training scheme open | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
Before, if I was at university, coming across a child for something, | :00:30. | :00:47. | |
you thought ring the police. Now I am the police. | :00:48. | :00:49. | |
Plus junk food adverts that target your children | :00:50. | :00:51. | |
when they're online - should they be banned | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
in the same way they are during children's TV programmes? | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
Whenever you go on a gaming website, I don't know, down both sides, there | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
is always adverts, you go on the site to play the | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
games, not to play the efforts Welcome to the programme, | :01:06. | :01:14. | |
we're live until 11 this morning. Also this morning - | :01:15. | :01:22. | |
you may have been following the story of a British-Iranian woman | :01:23. | :01:24. | |
who's been separated from her young As her family finally get | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
to see her in prison, Do get in touch on all the stories | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
Live and If you text, you will be charged | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
at the standard network rate. Our top story today - | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
the case of a father who refused to pay a ?120 fine | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
for taking his daughter out of school for a holiday will be | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
heard at the High Court today. Magistrates ruled that Jon Platt had | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
no case to answer as, overall, his daughter had | :01:52. | :01:53. | |
attended school regularly. But Isle of Wight Council has asked | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
the High Court to clarify whether a seven-day absence amounts | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
to a child failing Here's our Education Correspondent | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
Robert Pigott. Jon Platt has become a leading | :02:02. | :02:08. | |
figure in a campaign by parents to relax the rules | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
governing term-time holidays. He took his daughter on a family | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
holiday to Disney World in April 2015 without her | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
school's permission. After he refused to pay a fine | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
of ?120, the Isle of Wight Council It said he had failed | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
in his legal duty to ensure However, magistrates accepted his | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
argument that even with this and other absences, his daughter had | :02:32. | :02:40. | |
been in class for at least 90% of school days, and that it amounted | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
to regular attendance. They have asked the High Court | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
to decide whether they were right to take the girl's attendance into | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
account when deciding in his favour. Mr Platt says that what is at stake | :02:51. | :02:57. | |
in the High Court today is parents' freedom to decide | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
what is best for their children. Ultimately it boils down | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
to who decides what is best Is that a local | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
authority or parents? It is not ideal to take your | :03:09. | :03:10. | |
children out of school on a term-time holiday, | :03:11. | :03:21. | |
but if you can't get away... There are many people | :03:22. | :03:23. | |
who can't go in holiday time. Head teachers were once able | :03:24. | :03:35. | |
to take their children out of school Regulations now prevent them from | :03:36. | :03:46. | |
doing so even exceptional circumstances. | :03:47. | :03:48. | |
The Department for Education insists that even one day's absence | :03:49. | :03:50. | |
We will be live at the High Court for reaction. We will also hear from | :03:51. | :04:09. | |
John Platt himself. Please do get in touch with your thoughts. | :04:10. | :04:11. | |
Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :04:12. | :04:13. | |
An EU mission to tackle people smuggling in the Mediterranean | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
Operation Sophia, which began last June, was launched to disrupt | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
the business of people trafficking but a parliamentary committee says | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
that while the mission has saved thousands of lives, | :04:25. | :04:26. | |
it's not having any meaningful impact on the smuggling networks. | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
These pictures show one of the latest rescue efforts | :04:29. | :04:36. | |
Scores of boats like these leave every week. | :04:37. | :04:45. | |
Behind them, people smugglers, profiting from despair. | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
Operation Sophia was set up after hundreds | :04:48. | :04:48. | |
of migrants drowned when their boat sank near Italy last year. | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
EU naval vessels patrol the Libyan coast, and while they have | :04:55. | :04:56. | |
contributed to the effort, rescuing 9000 people, | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
they report Operation Sophia an impossible challenge. | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
They have not put a stop to the multibillion pound migrant | :05:02. | :05:03. | |
They have not put a stop to the multibillion pound migrant | :05:04. | :05:33. | |
It has found around 50 smugglers have been arrested, but they are | :05:34. | :05:36. | |
low-level targets and not the key figures within the networks. | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
While 80 smuggling vessels have been destroyed, | :05:40. | :05:41. | |
it claims smugglers have | :05:42. | :05:42. | |
simply changed their tactics, changing from wooden boats to | :05:43. | :05:44. | |
What we obviously need is a co-ordinated response by the | :05:45. | :05:50. | |
European countries that will deal not only with the question of people | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
smuggling, but also with settlement and repatriation and processing. | :05:54. | :05:55. | |
With spring turning to summer, record numbers | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
of people are expected to try and flee from Libya | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
The report concludes that without a strategy | :06:02. | :06:03. | |
to address the root causes of migration, there is no end in | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
This morning we are live on search and rescue boat | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
Our correspondent Christian Fraser is there. | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
From where you are, can USS Operation Sofia. | :06:16. | :06:27. | |
You can see we have 233 rescued migrants. Economic | :06:28. | :06:47. | |
them... Apologies, technical problems with the line. | :06:48. | :07:01. | |
The US Navy has fired the commander of the ten American sailors | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
who were briefly captured by Iran in January. | :07:08. | :07:09. | |
The sailors strayed off course in the Gulf and were held | :07:10. | :07:11. | |
and questioned in Iran for fifteen hours. | :07:12. | :07:13. | |
A US Navy official said the commander had failed to provide | :07:14. | :07:15. | |
The police watchdog has launched an investigation after a former | :07:16. | :07:30. | |
South Yorkshire Police press officer claimed she was asked to "spin" news | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
Hayley Court claimed she was asked to encourage the media to report | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
evidence favourable to the police, including that fans | :07:38. | :07:38. | |
South Yorkshire Police has said the allegations were | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
The advertising industry is considering a total ban | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
on adverts for unhealthy food which target children. | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
Current restrictions apply only during children's TV programmes, | :07:50. | :07:51. | |
but not to online media such as gaming websites. | :07:52. | :07:53. | |
The Committee of Advertising Practice - | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
an industry body - is proposing extending the ban | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
to cover all media, including online, because of the rise | :07:58. | :07:59. | |
And we'll talk to the Advertising Standards authority, | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
the Food and Drink Federation and parents with a variety | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
A quick-thinking train driver helped save passengers from major injuries | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
in a collision with a lorry on the tracks. | :08:13. | :08:14. | |
The driver had just seconds to warn passengers of an impending crash | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
as the train travelled at 62mph towards a truck blocking a level | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
as the train travelled at 62mph after a truck blocked | :08:21. | :08:22. | |
The Obama administration is instructing schools to allow | :08:23. | :08:32. | |
transgender students to use toilets that match their chosen | :08:33. | :08:34. | |
The US Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, says the decree | :08:35. | :08:40. | |
The Obama administration is instructing schools to allow | :08:41. | :08:42. | |
transgender students to use toilets that match their chosen | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
The US Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, says the decree | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
serves to protect transgender students from discrimination | :08:49. | :08:49. | |
The state of North Carolina has provoked a storm of protest | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
after issuing a law requiring people to use public toilets that | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
correspond to the sex listed on their birth certificate. | :08:57. | :08:58. | |
Fire crews are tackling a blaze at what's believed to be a fireworks | :08:59. | :09:05. | |
Around 50 firefighters are tackling the fire at the factory | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
There are no reported injuries but some homes have been evacuated. | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
Ireland has been knocked out of the Eurovision Song Contest | :09:14. | :09:15. | |
after former Westlife singer Nicky Byrne failed to qualify | :09:16. | :09:17. | |
in the semi-final in Sweden, where he was one of 18 competing | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
The UK automatically qualifies, with duo Joe and Jake | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
We'll be talking more about term-time holidays | :09:28. | :09:38. | |
Use the hashtag Victoria Live and if you text, you will be charged | :09:39. | :10:04. | |
Taulafo sport to come this weekend. We will look further ahead to the | :10:05. | :10:13. | |
summer. After helping Sunderland avoid relegation by banking 15 goals | :10:14. | :10:16. | |
in the Premier League, Jermain Defoe has set his | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
sights on the England side for Euro 2016. Roy Hodgson is set to name his | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
squad on Monday, and he says he has done | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
everything right. He was last called up in November 20 13. Conscience has | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
delayed naming his Use without the Arsenal pair Danny | :10:35. | :10:45. | |
Welbeck in Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain through injury. A big weekend, | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
Saracens will take on Racing Metro in the Champions Cup will stop | :10:53. | :10:54. | |
yesterday unions looks at plans to stop | :10:55. | :11:04. | |
players being overworked. That means the Six Nations could move to April. | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
The Harlequins director of rugby shares concerns. You can see the | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
work and you rest their bodies around. The shortness of the | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
pre-season, the ability to recover. You look at the end of the season, | :11:16. | :11:24. | |
England playing Wales. There are commercial realities to that. | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
Something has to give. Danny Willett was back in action last | :11:30. | :11:31. | |
night for the first time since winning the US Masters last month. | :11:32. | :11:38. | |
He was playing in the unofficial fifth major at TPC Sawgrass. He said | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
the gap between the Triumph and last night meant he was not great. A 73, | :11:45. | :11:52. | |
with three birdies. Jason Day equalled the course record with a | :11:53. | :11:53. | |
nine under it, the shops are closed, all you | :11:54. | :12:08. | |
have a dog food? No, not me. Serena Williams said she was physically | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
match yesterday because she felt like | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
trying has dog's food. I tried a spoonful, salmon and rice, all mixed | :12:16. | :12:32. | |
together. I feel really sick. It was just a spoonful. Pretty nice food | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
for a dog. Joanna, tell the truth, one by? Not sure. | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
The family of a British-Iranian mother being detained in Iran has | :12:45. | :12:46. | |
been able to see her for the first time since her arrest. | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe has been held in a cell since being stopped | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
on the 3rd of April at an airport after visiting her family. | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
The charity worker was with her 22 month old daughter Gabriella | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
at the time of her arrest, she's now being looked | :12:59. | :13:00. | |
Let's talk now to Nazanin's husband Richard Ratcliffe. | :13:01. | :13:11. | |
Nazanin's parents have got to see her. And Gabriella. Yes, her parents | :13:12. | :13:24. | |
flew themselves down, 1000, to see where they live. They were picked up | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
at the hotel by the Revolutionary guard, and they were taken to a | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
hotel where they met Nazanin. They had about three hours together, | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
having lunch. Talking to Nazanin. Not allowed to talk about why she | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
was arrested. Not about her condition. They were allowed to be | :13:46. | :13:52. | |
together. The first 15 minutes, Gabriella sat in her mother's arms. | :13:53. | :14:03. | |
It was all stage-managed, but Gabriella given a goal by the | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
Revolutionary guard. It was played out in a statement. Reassuring to at | :14:08. | :14:14. | |
least have the contact. Have your parents-in-law said how she is? | :14:15. | :14:22. | |
Reassuring. They said this is not normal, this is because of Gabriella | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
when the baby deserves to see her mother. In terms of how Nazanin | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
look. They said she looked calm, stronger than expected. Did not go | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
into more details. He/she still being held in solitary confinement? | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
To the best of my knowledge. The hotel was much nicer, then back to | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
where she was before. Take us back to the 3rd of April, she was | :14:50. | :14:51. | |
arrested at the airport, along with Gabriella. They were preparing to | :14:52. | :14:59. | |
come home. They had been on a family holiday for two weeks. They were | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
stopped at the check-in. Told it was a passport issue. The passports need | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
to be looked after. Gabriella given back to her grandparents, while it | :15:12. | :15:13. | |
was sorted. Nazanin taken into a room with both | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
of the passports. That was the last we saw of her. Do you have an idea | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
why she was picked up from no charges have been made. The only | :15:26. | :15:36. | |
issue, national security. She's a young mother, charity worker, she | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
has been to Iran four times in the past two years. Hard to see what it | :15:41. | :15:47. | |
could be. Because she has a British husband for site it is just not | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
clear. There is a report she has signed a confession? | :15:53. | :16:01. | |
As far as I know what she has told her parents on the phone was that if | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
she corroborated with investigations at the end of the day she was | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
allowed to phone home and she confirmed to her father that she had | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
signed something. To say it was a small mistake. It is typical for | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
other cases for detainees to be kept in solitary and sign a confession | :16:18. | :16:23. | |
and then brought out and convicted later. So you don't know what she | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
has been questioned about. Her family were not allowed to discuss | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
that with her on Wednesday. The Foreign Office advised you against | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
speaking out. She had been held for around a month. Today is day 40 and | :16:41. | :16:47. | |
we spoke out on Monday. Why did you decide to do that? Partly because | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
the time was passing and it felt that we were not having any success | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
in getting through to her through the formal, official channels. I | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
spoke to other families of former detainees and current detainees. | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
There are quite a few. In the public domain, there may be two or three | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
and a couple more that haven't come forward yet. Talking to them, it is | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
different in different cases, they all said they wished they had gone | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
public earlier and I felt that we had left it too long. One of the | :17:22. | :17:28. | |
current detainees as a man of 76 who has been held in prison since 2011. | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
He was in solitary confinement for some time and it took the family | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
quite some time to start to talk about it. I know that you have been | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
in touch with that family. Presumably looking at that situation | :17:43. | :17:45. | |
where he's been held for a long time it must make you feel nervous. | :17:46. | :17:52. | |
Terrifying. That family have led a dignified campaign in trying to | :17:53. | :17:54. | |
raise his profile and doing what they can for their grandfather. Five | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
years the spurious charges is an extraordinarily long time. Goodness | :18:01. | :18:05. | |
knows what could happen to Nazanin. Does she have access to a lawyer? | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
Not to my best knowledge. She was not allowed to talk about it at the | :18:12. | :18:18. | |
meeting. Her father has an appointed lawyer for him but I don't think | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
he's been able to make contact with Nazanin, neither did the Red Cross. | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
The one hope is this petition we have started. We had a quarter of a | :18:28. | :18:31. | |
million signatures in four days. Yesterday someone wanted it | :18:32. | :18:37. | |
translated translated into Russian and 25,000 people signed it within | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
hours. The strength it has given to her family to see all these people | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
caring it has given me to go to the Foreign Office and say, there | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
are a lot of people who care, we will talk to the Foreign Office on | :18:52. | :18:57. | |
Wednesday and see what the new context is. Will you go to Iran? | :18:58. | :19:04. | |
Suddenly. Broadly I am more effective here at the moment. We | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
will see what the charges are and how things unfold. This has turned | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
your life upside down. Completely transformed it. One thing that has | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
been striking is how many old friends have got in touch and | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
reached out, and that sort of empathy that we've got in all sorts | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
of different ways. Whilst it is a horrible circumstance for people to | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
reach out in its actually the most important time for people to come | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
along and try to support in all the ways they can. When you took that | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
call to say what had happened, how did you react? The first call I got | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
was from her brother saying that she did not catch the plane, don't | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
worry, she will be on another plane, there is just a problem with her | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
passport. I did not understand things at that time so I believed | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
him. It was only when she could not be found for the first few days come | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
all the fears that go through your mind, she could have disappeared, | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
what could have happened, and then when she was able to call and say | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
she was OK and save that was reassuring. It has been an up and | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
down journey of emotions, hard-fought us to understand the | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
enormity of what she's going through. Thank you for talking to | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
us, Richard. To stay in touch. Thank you. -- do stay in touch. | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
This programme has been given exclusive access to a new police | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
training scheme open only to graduates with top degrees. | :20:33. | :20:34. | |
Police Now was set up last year to attract | :20:35. | :20:36. | |
what the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Bernard Hogan Howe, | :20:37. | :20:38. | |
described as the "brightest and best" into policing. | :20:39. | :20:40. | |
Ashley John-Baptiste has been out on the beat with two of the first | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
The left. This is one of our local areas that we have issues with. | :20:44. | :20:58. | |
You'll see a lot of people start run away. Last year the Metropolitan | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
Police set up a new training scheme. They wanted to improve on what they | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
saw as a lack of university graduates applying for jobs. It is | :21:08. | :21:14. | |
called police Now. We went filming with two of the first year recruits. | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
This is the sort of thing you get. You are not being evicted today, we | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
just giving you the information so it's a surprise. | :21:25. | :21:35. | |
If we go further up there is a little market, and in the past, to | :21:36. | :21:42. | |
an extensible ongoing, we have had an issue with people selling drugs. | :21:43. | :21:50. | |
Three years ago I was a student at the University of Nottingham, | :21:51. | :21:52. | |
different from anything I'm doing now. I spent a lot of time in the | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
library and with my mates, playing, has parties, generally a good time. | :22:01. | :22:07. | |
-- has parties. I just wanted to introduce myself, how long have you | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
been here? After six weeks of intensive training the new recruits | :22:13. | :22:14. | |
were sent out to be local officers in some of the toughest | :22:15. | :22:17. | |
neighbourhoods in London. This is the first time officers from the | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
scheme have been filmed at on shift. Most of the day I spent in my | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
community, smiling at people, saying hello, it's about knowing my hotspot | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
areas for crime and anti-social behaviour. We've been to some of | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
those, we go to some of them everyday, for example, one of the | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
blogs has a problem with drug abuse. I will visit that most shift, if not | :22:42. | :22:49. | |
every shift. -- most shifts. How often are you coming to this part of | :22:50. | :22:56. | |
the area? Maybe twice a week also, it depends on whether it is an | :22:57. | :23:04. | |
issue. And then we will come down. Three days ago... The smell is just | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
awful. Overwhelming. We had three people smoking drugs here are couple | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
of days ago. The first week and I got sent to a house where there were | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
two children, my job was to take care of their welfare and part of | :23:20. | :23:22. | |
that was to put them into police protection. It's quite an emotional | :23:23. | :23:29. | |
experience, I had never been in that situation before in my daily life | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
and to be there in uniform, it's my responsibility. Before that, when I | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
was at university, if you found a child or something you would say, | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
best ring the police. Now I am the police. Have you ever felt out of | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
your depth in the job? Sometimes but you have colleagues next to you and | :23:50. | :23:52. | |
some are more experienced and know what they are doing. This is one of | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
the places where we found some of the guys hiding some of their drugs. | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
Wishing them in here so they would not have them on them when we came | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
around and did searches, for example -- pushing them in here. This is | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
just a part of what I do in neighbourhood policing. Arresting | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
someone stops an immediate situation but most of my work is around | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
solving long-term issues that we have in our communities. We cannot | :24:21. | :24:27. | |
arrest our way out of those! Yes, she's very good. We know her. She | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
comes to our events, she's very approachable, she is well known. | :24:33. | :24:42. | |
What is your view of the police? I think they target the teenagers | :24:43. | :24:50. | |
mostly around you, stop and search. You're judged by your skin colour | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
and stuff. The other day one of my friends got stopped, and they said | :24:55. | :25:03. | |
they wanted to touch, you was not comfortable, they did not care, they | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
were not respecting him. I think there's a lot of age discrimination | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
as well. They don't show respect to us. But fails provide security and | :25:13. | :25:21. | |
stuff. Mice to see you. Take care. The shops like us to do more stop | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
and searching because of the issues they have. We do so many, that's | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
always going to be the case. What we want to do is make sure that when we | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
stop someone we have the grounds, there is a reason we are there, we | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
would not do it for no reason, we also talk to them and see what their | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
concerns are and if their concerns are that people are carrying knives | :25:44. | :25:46. | |
or smoking drugs will be there to combat this, when you have a safe | :25:47. | :25:52. | |
environment for everyone. The anti-social behaviour has improved | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
dramatically. In the last couple of days I've issued three drugs | :25:57. | :26:04. | |
warrants. The scheme has covered community policing on the same | :26:05. | :26:07. | |
patch. Just over 60 recruits meet regularly to share their progress | :26:08. | :26:13. | |
with senior officers. But at a time when the government wants police | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
forces to reflect the communities that they work in, should the scheme | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
not be open to everyone, not just graduates? In the graduate | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
recruitment market we are targeting female recruits and black and | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
minority ethnic recruits. For example the intake coming in this | :26:32. | :26:38. | |
summer are more than 50% female, and around 20% black and minority | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
ethnic. With the female figure I'm really pleased, that to me as a sign | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
of big progress. The black and minority ethnic recruits, 20%, | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
that's progress but we are still not at the races. I had one report of | :26:53. | :27:00. | |
someone in one of these blocks, setting off fireworks. I did have | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
some concerns about going in. One of my concerns was about being a woman | :27:07. | :27:11. | |
and how that would affect me. I like your phone. Thank you, it's very old | :27:12. | :27:18. | |
and big! There are not many ethnic minorities within the Metropolitan | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
Police, would I be in a minority within a minority? In fact there are | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
quite a few ethnic minorities working in Haringey. Are you all | :27:27. | :27:35. | |
right? What are you doing. Why is everyone leaving? From a small | :27:36. | :27:43. | |
village so I'm not used to the city and the pressures and the challenges | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
and brings. But I enjoy the challenge and I like to talk to the | :27:49. | :27:55. | |
community and see what they want. Police Now is now an independent | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
charity. This year it will provide 120 officers to seven forces across | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
England. That's currently around 120,000 officers in England and | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
Wales are the numbers are still small. But could this be what the | :28:10. | :28:11. | |
future of policing looks like? Some of you getting in touch, one | :28:12. | :28:25. | |
viewer says that the special training scheme is a waste of money, | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
you'd need life experience and you don't have this when you come from | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
education and you certainly don't need a degree to be a good officer. | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
Trevor on Facebook says there's nothing as good as an officer being | :28:37. | :28:42. | |
promoted through merit. Rapid promotion through graduate entry can | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
never replace this all produce good and experienced officers. | :28:46. | :28:47. | |
Junk food adverts that target your children | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
when they're online - we'll ask if they should be | :28:51. | :28:52. | |
banned in the same way they are during children's TV | :28:53. | :28:55. | |
We will be asking parents and industry experts if this is a good | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
idea. And the High Court is to rule | :28:59. | :29:01. | |
in the case of a father who took his daughter out of school | :29:02. | :29:09. | |
to go to Florida. The council wanted to fine him - | :29:10. | :29:11. | |
magistrates disagreed. Here's ANNITA in the BBC Newsroom | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
with a summary of todays news. An anti-smuggling mission is failing | :29:15. | :29:32. | |
to achieve its aims, says a parliamentary committee. Operation | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
Sophia which began in June was launched to stop people trafficking, | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
it is imported that while it has saved thousands of lives it is | :29:42. | :29:44. | |
having no impact on the smuggling networks. The US Navy has fired the | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
commander of ten American sailors briefly captured by Iran in January. | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
The sailors went off course in the Gulf and will hold and questioned in | :29:54. | :29:59. | |
Iran for 15 hours. The US Navy officials said the commander had | :30:00. | :30:01. | |
failed to provide effective leadership and had shown lack of | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
oversight and complacency. The advertising industry is considering | :30:07. | :30:10. | |
a ban on adverts for unhealthy food that target children. Current | :30:11. | :30:15. | |
restrictions apply currently only during children's TV programmes, not | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
to online media like gaming website. The industry body responsible is | :30:20. | :30:25. | |
proposing extending the ban to cover all media including online because | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
of the rise in childhood obesity. Hundreds of people have been | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
evacuated from their homes after an unexploded World War II bomb was | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
found in the next Mac bath. The device was found by developers | :30:37. | :30:39. | |
working on the former Royal health school site in the city. A safety | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
barrier has been put around 1000 homes as police assess the | :30:45. | :30:46. | |
situation. A quick-thinking train driver helped | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
save passengers from major injuries in a collision with a lorry | :30:52. | :30:53. | |
on the tracks. The driver had just seconds to warn | :30:54. | :30:55. | |
passengers of an impending crash as the train travelled at 62mph | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
towards a truck blocking a level as the train travelled at 62mph | :30:59. | :31:01. | |
after a truck blocked Ireland has been knocked out | :31:02. | :31:03. | |
of the Eurovision Song Contest after former Westlife singer | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
Nicky Byrne failed to qualify in the semi-final in Sweden, | :31:08. | :31:09. | |
where he was one of 18 competing The UK automatically qualifies, | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
with duo Joe and Jake We will talk more about Eurovision | :31:15. | :31:42. | |
later with some super fans and the winner. Let's catch up with the | :31:43. | :31:44. | |
sport. He scored 15 goals for Sunderland in | :31:45. | :31:53. | |
the league this season, now the 33 Rob Jermain Defoe says he has done | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
everything right to own a call up to the England squad for next month's | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
euros. Roy Hodgson will announce the squad on Monday. Kenya's | :32:04. | :32:11. | |
participation for the Olympics is in doubt after the IOC declared the | :32:12. | :32:25. | |
country's practices according to performance enhancing substances is | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
in breach of its rules. Danny Willett return to action after his | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
US Masters win at TPC Sawgrass. He scored a 73. Max Verstappen had his | :32:35. | :32:44. | |
first race in the rental head of the Spanish Grand Prix. Daniel Kvyat was | :32:45. | :32:56. | |
demoted to Toro Rosso. You have got in touch, regarding school holidays. | :32:57. | :33:15. | |
Richard says he missed months and months of school due to poor health, | :33:16. | :33:24. | |
I have college qualifications and a degree. | :33:25. | :33:26. | |
The advertising industry is considering a total ban | :33:27. | :33:28. | |
on adverts for junk food which specifically target children. | :33:29. | :33:30. | |
There have been strict rules on this for years, | :33:31. | :33:32. | |
but they mainly apply to children's TV programmes. | :33:33. | :33:34. | |
The new proposals would extent the ban to online video, apps, | :33:35. | :33:37. | |
magazines, billboards, even social media. | :33:38. | :33:44. | |
We went to Little Ealing primary school in West London to find out | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
what a bunch of 10 to 11 year olds make of it all. | :33:48. | :33:56. | |
My name is busy, my favourite fast food is Nandos. My favourite junk | :33:57. | :34:10. | |
food is ice cream. My name is Maisie. My name is Ruben. My | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
favourite website is Eugene. I watch a lot of music videos. How much do | :34:16. | :34:22. | |
you notice adverts? Whenever you go on a gaming website, down both | :34:23. | :34:29. | |
sides, and at the top, there are adverts. You go to play the games, | :34:30. | :34:35. | |
not to look at the adverts. I find it quite annoying. If we wanted to | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
buy a burger, we don't need people persuading us. What sort of adverts | :34:41. | :34:47. | |
do you see? A lot of McDonald's, fast food. A lot of adverts about | :34:48. | :34:56. | |
special deals, come and get our crispy chicken burger. I don't like | :34:57. | :35:05. | |
those. They are trying to over persuade someone. It makes you | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
think, you don't need to see that. Does not sound like the adverts are | :35:11. | :35:16. | |
convincing you? When you see adverts, do you want fast food? I | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
want it, I know it is really bad for us. What do you like? I don't like | :35:22. | :35:30. | |
McDonald's. I like KFC. You laugh about wanting fast food, you know it | :35:31. | :35:39. | |
is bad. How much do those adverts make you want the food more? I still | :35:40. | :35:44. | |
think they try to make it look really appetising, really nice. When | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
you get it, it just doesn't look appetising at all. Even though | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
they're trying to make it, does not really work. The suggestion is they | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
would stop advertising chocolate, sweets and crisps, other things will | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
be advertised and not bad for you. How does that sound? May be shutting | :36:06. | :36:14. | |
down the advertising would make them realise their food is not healthy, | :36:15. | :36:22. | |
making people want to eat it. If you take away the adverts, you less | :36:23. | :36:31. | |
people would be likely to go, eating more burgers, things that are | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
unhealthy. That way we would not be as obese. Sounds like pretty | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
switched on of kids. Let's talk more about this. We have | :36:42. | :36:58. | |
a mother of two boys, aged four and six. Bonner in mother of four, and | :36:59. | :37:07. | |
Kate, a mother of two. Let's start with a clear explanation of what has | :37:08. | :37:14. | |
been said? What would change if the proposals go through? We are | :37:15. | :37:20. | |
announcing a set of tough proposals, tightening up the rules on the | :37:21. | :37:25. | |
advertising of salty, sugary and fatty food, on media for children. | :37:26. | :37:35. | |
We recognise the scale of the obesity challenge facing the | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
country. One third of children are leaving school obese at the moment. | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
Advertising plays a small part. Bigger factors are parental | :37:45. | :37:50. | |
influence, school sports, education. There is a significant influence | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
between advertising and dietary choices. We want to play our part in | :37:55. | :38:01. | |
reversing the crisis. Another big driver in change, it children are | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
consuming media in a different way. Ten years ago kids watched | :38:07. | :38:13. | |
television, 96% of television have access to the Internet. Also | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
children watching 3.5 hours of programming on the Internet. It has | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
taken a while to catch up. It has been that way for a while. There are | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
other things coming into play, like billboards. A relatively recent | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
phenomenon. The rise of smartphones and tablets have contributed. Things | :38:34. | :38:40. | |
need to change, and if children are consuming media differently, the | :38:41. | :38:44. | |
rules need to be tightened up online, similar tough standards to | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
television already. You have two sons, are you concerned about the | :38:50. | :38:56. | |
adverts? Absolutely, the children use their iPad, watching child | :38:57. | :39:03. | |
friendly programmes, the adverts are food related, or adult based. I feel | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
that should be changed. What sort of adverts do you see? Don't tell us | :39:09. | :39:13. | |
about the brands, but the sort of things? Could be beauty, health | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
care, dental care, sports, music videos, adverts, not appropriate for | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
my age group of kids. Does it go over their heads? Eventually it does | :39:27. | :39:34. | |
get absorbed. They are sponges, they take in everything you give them. If | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
you are promoting the right thing, they will see that. Eventually it | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
takes over as they get older. Donna, you have four children. What are | :39:45. | :39:52. | |
they accessing, and the situation with adverts? My children I1, five, | :39:53. | :40:00. | |
eight and 11. My eight-year-old and 11-year-olds have their own tablets. | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
My daughter enjoys watching YouTube and Facebook. Adverts all over them. | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
Something you have been conscious about and concerns about? I was not | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
conscious until my daughter came to me and said I want McDonald's for | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
dinner. I realised she had seen an advert on the tablet. Is that what | :40:22. | :40:28. | |
she said? She would not have asked if she had not seen the advert. You | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
have a two -year-old and a four -year-old. I find this quite | :40:33. | :40:39. | |
patronising. Parents need so much guidance, in order to effectively | :40:40. | :40:46. | |
say no, exercising their power of no. Festering power -- the power of | :40:47. | :41:08. | |
children to pester you is enormous. But parents should be in charge of | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
healthy eating. Producers of junk food and drink have been enjoying a | :41:15. | :41:22. | |
loophole? This is something where we have seen the difference between the | :41:23. | :41:26. | |
rules of television and online, and posters. We came out last year said | :41:27. | :41:33. | |
we are supporting bringing all the broadcast rules into line. For us, | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
this cannot come soon enough. Anxious to get it into place, a | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
small and important step forward. Donna says one of her kids asked for | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
McDonald's, is a direct result of seeing it advert. Do you accept | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
there is a direct correlation between what they are seeing and the | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
results will stop the report says there is a modest impact from | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
advertising. One of many things that influence choices. What do you | :42:04. | :42:09. | |
think? Parents and public health professionals have been saying they | :42:10. | :42:12. | |
want to see tighter restrictions on junk food marketing, online, | :42:13. | :42:20. | |
television, all forms of media. It is a positive step. The industry has | :42:21. | :42:26. | |
already agreed to some of these things thanks to the pressure put on | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
them. I am not sure why we had to wait many months for the | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
consultation, which has a large scope for certain parts of the | :42:37. | :42:42. | |
industry to weaken what is proposed. Let's get Craig to answer that. It | :42:43. | :42:48. | |
is not a long period, ten weeks. The reason we're doing that, most | :42:49. | :42:56. | |
organisations when they pass changes, they want to say something. | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
We are interested from hearing from your organisation. There is a real | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
consensus from the industry, and there is a lot of support for what | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
we are saying. Interesting there is consensus from industry. The | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
industry setting the rules, setting the bar. We have to ask ourselves, | :43:15. | :43:24. | |
what are they looking at? The current rules on television do not | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
go far enough, allowing junk food to be advertised on the X Factor. What | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
sort of loopholes? Sponsorship, brand characters. Everything from | :43:35. | :43:46. | |
Star Wars promotions, Minions tie-ins. You think none of that | :43:47. | :43:53. | |
should happen? None of it should happen. Companies spend hundreds of | :43:54. | :43:56. | |
million pounds advertising these products to children. This will not | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
stop that overnight. We need to see what rules will be brought in. The | :44:02. | :44:07. | |
companies spend the money because it delivers results. They would not | :44:08. | :44:13. | |
spend it for nothing? The evidence points to a modest impact. That is | :44:14. | :44:15. | |
not to say there is no impact. points to a modest impact. That is | :44:16. | :44:24. | |
good one. points to a modest impact. That is | :44:25. | :44:29. | |
placements of the ads. Kids will not be seeing the adverts, in regards to | :44:30. | :44:38. | |
able to. Other changes are we are making it easier to see license | :44:39. | :44:41. | |
characters for the formation of healthy foods. Supporting public | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
health messages. What is the mothers think of that? Fantastic, if they do | :44:48. | :44:52. | |
that in a positive way, it will have a positive impact. With the adverts, | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
promoting junk food, sugars and fats, the children are influenced | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
stop when you give them spending money, you don't know where they are | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
putting it, crisps, chocolate, McDonald's. If you promoted in the | :45:07. | :45:13. | |
right way, exercise, fruit, salads. It will have a better impact. Donna, | :45:14. | :45:21. | |
Kate? I agree, fantastic idea. I am a founder of the parent group, last | :45:22. | :45:29. | |
night we had a poll of our members, 3000 members, to ask an opinion. The | :45:30. | :45:35. | |
biggest issue, consistently is an endorsement, the licensing of | :45:36. | :45:41. | |
characters. That really puts parents under a lot of pressure to say no. | :45:42. | :45:48. | |
People getting in touch. The three are saying similar. Stuart saying, | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
parents should take responsibility for their children's diet will stop | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
they have a duty of care. Laughable, banning junk food ads for kids. | :45:58. | :46:03. | |
Better to ban porn on the Internet. It causes bigger harm. | :46:04. | :46:12. | |
It comes down to parental responsibility then. I work | :46:13. | :46:19. | |
full-time and I'm a full-time parent so I do try to make the effort. I am | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
a big advocate of Jamie Oliver, I love the fact that he gives you 30 | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
minute recipes where you can involve the children and get organic bits | :46:30. | :46:33. | |
and pieces but organic produce is quite expensive and a lot of people | :46:34. | :46:37. | |
would like access to cheaper because that is what they can afford in | :46:38. | :46:41. | |
terms of budgeting the weekly shop. In terms of cooking I do try to at | :46:42. | :46:48. | |
that time, I restrict junk food to a minimum, I try to get my children | :46:49. | :46:51. | |
involved in the cooking process so they can feel they participated so | :46:52. | :46:54. | |
that will encourage them to eat good food. Craig has said, Tim, and you | :46:55. | :47:02. | |
have said, that the impact and advertising on pester power and it | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
is a small element and what the parents are choosing to buy that | :47:08. | :47:11. | |
people don't spend money on advertising for no reason. Of course | :47:12. | :47:18. | |
not. These are products enjoyed by people across the country, of course | :47:19. | :47:24. | |
in the face of an obesity crisis we have to do more to help. Parental | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
responsibility is important, there are things we can do to help parents | :47:30. | :47:35. | |
and this is a positive step forward. Is the food and drink industry being | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
demonised? Yes. There's been a lot of regulation on the industry in the | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
last few years. We are facing sugar levy now we've got a child beastie | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
strategy coming from the government, there could be further restrictions | :47:50. | :47:54. | |
there. This proposal is something the industry has embraced, is | :47:55. | :47:57. | |
committed to voluntarily before we've even got the process going | :47:58. | :48:02. | |
through. It would be nice to season credit for the fact that the | :48:03. | :48:08. | |
industry is trying to do its bit, to sort this out. We have a | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
responsibility of course but so do many others in tackling a very | :48:13. | :48:18. | |
complex problem. Can I throw a challenge to the industry? We | :48:19. | :48:21. | |
welcome the fact that some parts of industry like the food and drink | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
Federation are saying that advertising of an healthy food and | :48:28. | :48:30. | |
drink should not target children under 16, and I think you've said in | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
the past that we should not see children to egg images of children | :48:37. | :48:39. | |
on those adverts. That's good. Now we've got to look at the specifics | :48:40. | :48:44. | |
of what has been announced today and say, if you look at the criteria | :48:45. | :48:50. | |
that says, 25% of audience indexing it is how many children are failing | :48:51. | :48:54. | |
that compared to adults, for instance. We will say will that be | :48:55. | :48:58. | |
enough, are there many things that could be done beyond what is being | :48:59. | :49:03. | |
asked in these rules? And I think that is the challenge ahead, because | :49:04. | :49:08. | |
at the moment, I spend a large amount of my week going online, | :49:09. | :49:15. | |
looking at advertising, where existing companies are targeting | :49:16. | :49:24. | |
children very much on line. Widget you see parental responsibility in | :49:25. | :49:30. | |
this? We all have parental responsibility. Parents absolutely | :49:31. | :49:37. | |
do. It can be very tiring to be bombarded time and again by all this | :49:38. | :49:43. | |
advertising, all these pressures to say yes, buy this product, yes my | :49:44. | :49:48. | |
children should have it, and tiring to say no overtime. That is what | :49:49. | :49:55. | |
actually want to the end to this environment, and ways of promoting | :49:56. | :49:59. | |
properly healthy food, and also at the moment even the proposals that | :50:00. | :50:03. | |
are talked about, it doesn't go far enough, saying what is properly | :50:04. | :50:08. | |
healthy, rather than something that is not as sugary as the very worst | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
offenders. Stuart has tweeted that children always ask for the latest | :50:16. | :50:18. | |
gadgets, you don't give in to your demands, your other parent, do your | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
job. John says, children as Paul sorts of things, just say No. | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
Another viewer says, the people to blame parents, what is wrong with | :50:29. | :50:34. | |
saying no. It seems as if people are getting in touch saying that maybe | :50:35. | :50:37. | |
there is no need for this if parents say no. It's a mixture of | :50:38. | :50:43. | |
responsibilities, the advertising industry house to play a part in | :50:44. | :50:47. | |
limiting exposure to these adverts and parental responsibility plays a | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
part. There are strong rules of the moment so it is not as if we are | :50:52. | :50:56. | |
going from a situation where there are no rules to this set of rules, | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
already there, the situation is that if someone makes a complaint about | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
an advertisement which happens to the biggest multinationals in the | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
world, we ban that advertisement and take it off the air so people can't | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
see it again. What we want to do is strike a balance between protecting | :51:16. | :51:18. | |
the rights of advertisers to market their product responsibility but | :51:19. | :51:24. | |
also doing more to... It'll be harder to police this online, than | :51:25. | :51:28. | |
on TV. There is audience indexing and data that we use. We've done | :51:29. | :51:33. | |
that successfully. Exposure to sugar and fatty foods adverts has gone | :51:34. | :51:40. | |
down. We are very open to talking to Malcolm and others about how to make | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
it happen. I think we just first want to confirm with everyone that | :51:45. | :51:47. | |
there's a consensus behind this. I most people agree that there's a big | :51:48. | :51:53. | |
step forward fighting obesity. Anyone who is a parent would agree | :51:54. | :51:58. | |
it is not easy. Do you feel the sort of advertising that we are talking | :51:59. | :52:03. | |
about makes the job harder? It means I have to say No more often. Do you | :52:04. | :52:12. | |
find it hard to say No to your kids? Not a lot but they know how to wind | :52:13. | :52:18. | |
you around them! All kids do, what about you, Luke? - Lou. It can be a | :52:19. | :52:32. | |
drain if they have it hissy fit in the middle of the street because | :52:33. | :52:39. | |
they want something! Kate? I think one of your most practised phrases | :52:40. | :52:44. | |
is, we are so used to saying this, and may curtail a lot of behaviours | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
we don't want to encourage in our children, I think we need to give | :52:49. | :52:53. | |
more kudos to the parents. The majority of parents there want | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
children to be healthy and offer them a balanced and healthy attitude | :53:00. | :53:05. | |
towards food and drink. I think No is a very simple word and must | :53:06. | :53:13. | |
children understand it. If advertising has a modest effect on | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
children's eating wire is so much spent on it, says one viewer. | :53:18. | :53:21. | |
Another suggests that the problem is a lot of children sitting in front | :53:22. | :53:28. | |
of games consoles. Endorsement of licensed characters should change. | :53:29. | :53:35. | |
One contributor says that in their childhood, their mother would give | :53:36. | :53:39. | |
them food and raw carrot. Thank you is much joining us. We've got some | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
extraordinary pictures now from Poland. We saw shot clipped on the | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
news. At the moment a train driver helped save all his passengers from | :53:49. | :53:50. | |
major injury when he saw that his helped save all his passengers from | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
train was about to crash into a lorry on | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
train was about to crash into a He had three seconds to warn his | :53:59. | :54:01. | |
passengers to get down so he ran through the train and told them to | :54:02. | :54:03. | |
move fast. Isn't that incredible? Amazing. A | :54:04. | :54:43. | |
lot of you are getting in touch about taking your children on | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
holiday in term time. Peter says, School offers young people a route | :54:49. | :54:52. | |
to independence and a degree of freedom from the tyranny of parents | :54:53. | :54:56. | |
who believe they know best. Michael said, I missed school for holiday | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
every and I got respectable results, this is absurd, one week or two | :55:01. | :55:04. | |
doesn't have an impact, another viewer suggests that when the | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
teachers go on strike this interrupt schooling, why can't parents to take | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
them to court for interrupting the schooling? My daughter was a | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
paramedic and could not get the time off in holiday time, they got | :55:20. | :55:22. | |
permission from the school to take the children on holiday in term | :55:23. | :55:28. | |
time, it'll got a fine. The local authority disagreed. Suit says that | :55:29. | :55:31. | |
parents taking children away from school for holidays are selfish. | :55:32. | :55:35. | |
Sylvia says it is grossly unfair to punish parents are taking holidays | :55:36. | :55:39. | |
in term time, when my children were young and simply did not go away, I | :55:40. | :55:44. | |
can see why parents are forced to do it. A tweet from Lee. Often working | :55:45. | :55:49. | |
parents cannot choose the holiday dates, they have to dig what is | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
available, only teachers and MPs get the summer. Lilly says that she had | :55:55. | :55:59. | |
time followed school and is now at university and has cherished | :56:00. | :56:05. | |
memories. Another contributor agrees with the father who took his | :56:06. | :56:09. | |
children away on holiday in term time because he could not afford to | :56:10. | :56:14. | |
go in holiday time and got a fine. Parents should be alleged to do this | :56:15. | :56:18. | |
if attendance is regular. It is good to hear from you. We will be talking | :56:19. | :56:22. | |
about that shortly. Now the latest weather update. | :56:23. | :56:24. | |
How is it looking? Gorgeous or terrible, two weeks ago we were | :56:25. | :56:38. | |
looking at heavy snow in the UK and last week and we have the warmest | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
day of the year so far. Huge variety of the weather at the moment and the | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
sick and we are seeing a dip in the roller-coaster. Temperatures all | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
over the place, typically, this time of year we do get really big | :56:52. | :56:53. | |
variations in temperature across the UK. Still quite cold at this time of | :56:54. | :57:01. | |
year, although the days are getting longer so the ground heats at recent | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
review, we get big varieties in types of weather in the early part | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
of summer. Will it ever properly subtle? Things are looking cool. A | :57:10. | :57:15. | |
different MRC is in charge of the next couple of days, we've had warm | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
weather, in the next couple of days things are looking cooler. These are | :57:20. | :57:25. | |
such weather watcher pictures. These are gorgeous, really eye-catching. | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
This one was taken in Devon. A beautiful sunrise this morning. That | :57:30. | :57:41. | |
was Gwyneth in South Wales, it's not like that everywhere. Similar | :57:42. | :57:44. | |
latitude to the previous picture although this is Lincolnshire, | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
further east. We've had drizzle coming out of the cloud there. It's | :57:50. | :57:55. | |
a real variation across the country. Things are getting a little cooler | :57:56. | :57:58. | |
as we go into the next couple of days. This is the forecast. We will | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
start with a satellite image that shows that we have quite a lot of | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
cloud across many central and eastern parts of the country, | :58:07. | :58:12. | |
further west, more in a way of sunshine, the cloud should then and | :58:13. | :58:16. | |
break in the next few hours, decent spells of sunshine across southern | :58:17. | :58:22. | |
England, further north, cloudier skies, this band of cloud is a weak | :58:23. | :58:26. | |
weather front slipping further south as we head through the day and | :58:27. | :58:31. | |
introducing to the north of that cold and fresher conditions. For | :58:32. | :58:35. | |
Scotland we will see a return to sunshine this afternoon, northern | :58:36. | :58:40. | |
Ireland having a decent afternoon, decent conditions, compared to | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
recent days, clouded this afternoon, as they had further south we will | :58:45. | :58:48. | |
keep the sunshine and the warmer conditions for longer. So | :58:49. | :58:52. | |
temperatures along the south coast ready to possibly 23 degrees, with a | :58:53. | :58:56. | |
chance of scattered, isolated showers especially for the | :58:57. | :58:59. | |
south-west of England and South Wales. This evening and overnight | :59:00. | :59:03. | |
those showers fade quickly, the cloud continues to move south, that | :59:04. | :59:08. | |
cold front moving south, a cold night head, in the countryside a | :59:09. | :59:12. | |
touch of Frost, especially for the sheltered glens of Scotland, where | :59:13. | :59:17. | |
temperatures are likely to dip below freezing. A chilly start to the day | :59:18. | :59:20. | |
tomorrow wherever you are, lots of dry settled weather, plenty of | :59:21. | :59:24. | |
sunshine and a northerly breeze, that will blow scattered showers | :59:25. | :59:28. | |
down eastern Scotland and England, the best of the driest weather will | :59:29. | :59:33. | |
be further west, parts of Northern Ireland and Wales, temperatures much | :59:34. | :59:38. | |
cooler than in recent days, at best around 10-15d. We are in for another | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
chilly night as we moved to Saturday night and on to Sunday. Clear skies | :59:44. | :59:47. | |
that cold air mass to, could be a touch of Frost again for some | :59:48. | :59:51. | |
northern areas and a few scattered showers heading into the North West | :59:52. | :59:55. | |
of Scotland, temperatures lower than this in the countryside first thing | :59:56. | :59:59. | |
Sunday, again after that fresh start, Sunday shaping up to be very | :00:00. | :00:03. | |
fine for most of us, the best the sunshine in the West again, more | :00:04. | :00:08. | |
cloud and showers in the east and it will feel fairly chilly way you are | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
exposed to the northerly breeze around the coast of 16 degrees | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
should not feel bad to the day. Into the new working week, temperatures | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
less warmer than this week, we will see some rain on the way | :00:21. | :00:23. | |
particularly towards the north and the West. | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
Our top story today - In a court ruling that could affect | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
families everywhere, judges are to rule in the case | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
of a father who took his daughter to Florida. | :00:35. | :00:41. | |
The council wanted to fine him - magistrates disagreed. | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
The 20 year old woman in Holland helped by doctors to end her own | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
life because she could not live with her mental suffering. | :00:47. | :01:09. | |
We have exclusive access to a new police training scheme open | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
Before when I was University, when you switch out, you thought I better | :01:13. | :01:23. | |
phone the police. Now I am the police. | :01:24. | :01:25. | |
Bev says - Education is very important, but common sense | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
and being streetwise is more important in a profession | :01:28. | :01:29. | |
Heather says - It's a great initiative as it's in addition | :01:30. | :01:33. | |
Eurovision is back tomorrow - but without Ireland, | :01:34. | :01:48. | |
the most successful country in the competition's history. | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
Former Westlife singer Nicky Byrne failed to qualify. | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
An EU mission to tackle people smuggling in the Mediterranean | :01:53. | :02:18. | |
The IMF says leaving the EE could cause significant harm to the UK | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
economy. They say while growth is broadly positive, exit could cause a | :02:25. | :02:33. | |
protracted period of uncertainty. The case of a father who refuse to | :02:34. | :02:44. | |
pay a ?120 fine is due to be heard at the High Court. The father says | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
there is no case to answer, but the Isle of Wight High -- Council want | :02:50. | :03:04. | |
to know if one week out of school constitutes a prolonged absence. | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
An EU mission to tackle people smuggling in the Mediterranean | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
Operation Sophia, which began last June, was launched to disrupt | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
the business of people trafficking but a parliamentary committee says | :03:15. | :03:16. | |
that while the mission has saved thousands of lives, | :03:17. | :03:18. | |
it's not having any meaningful impact on the smuggling networks. | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
Our correspondent Christian Fraser is there. | :03:24. | :03:26. | |
One of the migrants told him his story. What they told us and what | :03:27. | :03:41. | |
they came with was quite different. The people smugglers? They told us | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
it was a quick crossing, and the boat is safe. When they took us to | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
the seaside, what we saw. The boat you are going in? They could not | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
believe. I could not back out, everybody had guns. You could not | :03:58. | :03:59. | |
say no? They said they may kill you, The US Navy has fired the commander | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
of the ten American sailors who were briefly captured | :04:04. | :04:21. | |
by Iran in January. The sailors strayed off course | :04:22. | :04:23. | |
in the Gulf and were held and questioned in Iran | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
for fifteen hours. A US Navy official said | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
the commander had failed to provide The advertising industry | :04:29. | :04:30. | |
is considering a total ban on adverts for unhealthy food | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
which target children. Current restrictions apply only | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
during children's TV programmes, but not to online media such | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
as gaming websites. Practice, an industry body, | :04:38. | :04:39. | |
is proposing to extend the ban to cover all media, including | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
online, because of the rise Hundreds of people evacuated | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
from their homes in Bath because of an unexploded | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
World War Two bomb have been told they may not be able to go | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
home until the weekend. The large device was uncovered | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
by developers working on the former A safety cordon has been put | :04:55. | :04:56. | |
in place around as many as 1,000 homes, as police assess | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
the situation. The world's oldest person has died | :05:02. | :05:16. | |
in New York at the age of 116. She was born on a farm in Alabama. An | :05:17. | :05:24. | |
Italian woman just a few months younger now takes on the mantle as | :05:25. | :05:26. | |
the oldest person in the world. Ireland has been knocked out | :05:27. | :05:39. | |
of the Eurovision Song Contest after former Westlife singer | :05:40. | :05:41. | |
Nicky Byrne failed to qualify in the semi-final in Sweden, | :05:42. | :05:43. | |
where he was one of 18 competing The UK automatically qualifies, | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
with duo Joe and Jake That is the summary of the news. | :05:49. | :06:00. | |
More at 10:30am. Some comments on taking holidays in term time. Mrs | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
Lesley says holidays are too expensive outside term time. For | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
less well off people, the only option is to take them out of | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
school. Disgraceful the holiday companies skyrocket prices, making | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
going away impossible for many. They should be governor legislation to | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
stop this. Get in touch on that and other things we talking about. If | :06:27. | :06:33. | |
you text, you will be charged at the standard rate. Let's get the sport. | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
Breaking news, from the Premiership. Watford have announced Quique | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
Sanchez Flores will be leaving the club at the end of the season. He | :06:46. | :06:51. | |
led them to an FA Cup semifinal, they avoided relegation in their | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
first season back in the top flight, after just four wins from the last | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
20 league games the club announced he will be leaving after their final | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
league match against Sunderland. After helping Sunderland avoid | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
relegation scoring 15 goals, Jermain Defoe setting his sights on the | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
England side for Euro 2016. Roy Hodgson announces his 23 man squad | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
on Monday, and Defoe says he has done everything right. He was last | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
capped in 2013. Hodgson delayed naming his squad until after the | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
weekend, he is without the Arsenal pair Danny Welbeck and Alex | :07:33. | :07:35. | |
Oxlade-Chamberlain through injury. Saracens play racing 92 in the final | :07:36. | :07:42. | |
of the European Champions Cup. This evening Harlequins take on | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
Montpellier in the Challenge Cup. Yesterday the players union approved | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
plans to safeguard players through playing too many games. The Six | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
Nations could move from February to April. The Harlequins director of | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
rugby shares concerns on player welfare. I am hugely worried, you | :08:01. | :08:08. | |
see what their bodies are under. You look at the shortness of the | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
preseason, the ability to recover, before another seven matches. The | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
end of the season, England playing Wales will stop there are commercial | :08:17. | :08:24. | |
realities. Something has to give. Sheffield's Danny Willett was back | :08:25. | :08:26. | |
in action for the first time since winning the Masters title. He was | :08:27. | :08:34. | |
playing only Players Championship CBC Sawgrass. He said the period | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
after winning the title meant he was not great. He carded a 73. The world | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
number one Jason Day showed his pedigree, nine under par with a 63. | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
Serena Williams says she was physically sick during the Italian | :08:52. | :09:01. | |
Open because she felt like trying out her dog's food. She still won in | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
straight sets. This is what she said afterwards. It looks good. I ate a | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
spoonful. Do not judge me. That is the salmon and rice will stop mix | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
together. Now I feel really sick. Just one spoonful. Just a spoonful. | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
That is all the sport. A former victim of child sex abuse | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
has ended her life under Dutch euthanasia laws | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
because she could not live The woman, in her twenties - | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
who has not been named - was given a lethal injection last | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
year, but details of the case have Doctors are said to have | :09:38. | :09:40. | |
treated her for some time and despite improvements | :09:41. | :09:48. | |
in her psychological state - and being deemed 'mentally | :09:49. | :09:49. | |
competent' - they concluded her condition could not be cured | :09:50. | :09:52. | |
and agreed to assist with her desire Euthanasia cases have risen by 55% | :09:53. | :10:10. | |
in Holland for is cases from psychiatric cases rose from just two | :10:11. | :10:27. | |
people in 2010, 256 last year. -- to 56 last year. | :10:28. | :10:29. | |
Let's talk now to Professor Sir Simon Wessely, President | :10:30. | :10:31. | |
of the Royal College of Psychiatrists | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
and in Amsterdam Philip Nitschke, Director of the pro-euthanasia | :10:34. | :10:35. | |
What do you make of countries like Belgium and Holland allowing | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
assisted suicide for people with mental health issues? | :10:39. | :10:40. | |
I will give you a direct answer, I think this is ghastly. Several | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
reasons, the area of mental illness is very complicated. In this country | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
the assisted dying regulation was soundly rejected in Parliament, just | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
for people with terminal illnesses. One reason, it is difficult to know | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
what is terminal. In mental health, it is difficult if not | :11:00. | :11:06. | |
know what is terminal. Every psychiatrist knows people who have | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
been seriously ill for many years, but who do recover, partially or | :11:10. | :11:11. | |
fully. someone intolerably ill, never | :11:12. | :11:21. | |
coming through it. Lots of people do not get better. The same physical | :11:22. | :11:29. | |
illness. Many people do. Many people's circumstances change, | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
treatments change. A very genetic study, people, to all intents and | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
treatments change. A very genetic purposes -- intensive purposes | :11:41. | :11:42. | |
committed suicide, but one in 300 survive. When they | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
committed suicide, but one in 300 on, they were all glad they | :11:48. | :11:55. | |
survived, the life change. -- their lives changed. We cannot know how | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
many people's lives will get better. lives changed. We cannot know how | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
Is there a distinction between patients seeking euthanasia, with | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
mental health issues, compared to someone with a terminal illness? The | :12:08. | :12:19. | |
criteria is unbelievable suffering. I support their approach. It can be | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
just as much from mental as well as physical diseases. I know it has | :12:25. | :12:31. | |
been well established, it is difficult, but once it is | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
established that the person has the capacity to make decisions, you can | :12:35. | :12:43. | |
do that with mental illness. To tell them to sit around and wait, is like | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
telling the cancer patient them to sit around and wait, is like | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
there could be a cure for cancer around the corner. This girl was | :12:53. | :12:59. | |
only 20. Had long enough being given to treat her? There was two years | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
establishing she has capacity, even though she had mental illness, she | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
had the capacity. Because that was established, done in detail, they | :13:12. | :13:20. | |
did allow her to take this step. To slam the door because this is a | :13:21. | :13:23. | |
psychiatric illness, and things may change in the future is not good | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
enough. You have to respect a person's decision, rather than | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
saying anyone who wants to die cannot be taken seriously. They | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
should not be given the option. If someone is determined to die, is | :13:40. | :13:48. | |
this a gentler way? I have heard the word gentle suicide. It is | :13:49. | :13:51. | |
outrageous. Suicide is not gentle, the effects on the family are | :13:52. | :13:57. | |
devastating. I have worked with many families bereaved by suicide, it is | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
ghastly. Nothing gentle about this. The issue about determining | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
competence. It is not easy. I do this for a living. It is | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
fluctuating. People have capacity and they do not. Not easy, but | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
possible? Severe mental illness affects your | :14:17. | :14:31. | |
thinking capacities. Most cases of suicide are cases of depression. It | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
affects your cognitive abilities, feelings of helplessness, feelings | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
of burden, guilt. Intolerable physical symptoms. They are all | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
reversible. Difficult to know in extreme cases, and we are dealing | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
with extreme cases, it is not a normal thing you do. It is more | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
difficult, then with clinical cases. We have two are on the side of life, | :15:00. | :15:08. | |
we're here to try prevent suicide. This is something I can think with | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
certainty will never happen in this country. Our profession will never | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
support this. It was not even discussed in Parliament. Dreadful | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
state of affairs. I hope it never happens here. Talk directly to each | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
other. The live wanted to answer what you are saying? | :15:28. | :15:37. | |
One of these views is what is current in the medical profession to | :15:38. | :15:50. | |
say that there is no rational motive for ending 1's own life. This is a | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
path that we don't wish to go down. The trouble is that the appended has | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
gone too far. We saw this a lot, whenever a person indicates that | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
they wish to die a psychiatrist says that they must be depressed with | :16:05. | :16:10. | |
some untreated mental malady and as such the queue needs to be adopted. | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
Please let me finish this time professor. So the queue is that we | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
treat the illness rather than respecting the person's wish to die. | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
I think that's the worst aspect of paternalism in medicine and it shows | :16:24. | :16:29. | |
how far out of step the psychiatric profession has come with the wishes | :16:30. | :16:32. | |
of the normal public who want to know that they have access to cases | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
of chronic suffering, and psychiatric illness certainly | :16:39. | :16:44. | |
presents symptoms of undiagnosed suffering. There was nothing that | :16:45. | :16:51. | |
hadn't been diagnosed about it, this was a serious disorder. One never | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
knows although if that was stated quite recently, the nose. Rational | :16:58. | :17:05. | |
suicide is unusual. Yet one of the definitions is that it does not | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
occur in the context of serious mental illness. Again we say that | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
this is a person who had such serious mental illness that she | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
lacks the ability to make this decision. How many years do you need | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
to establish that this person has a chronic condition that won't be | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
resolved. How long do you tell that woman that she must go on suffering | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
because they may be some change around the corner? At what point do | :17:28. | :17:35. | |
you stop and respect the view of the patient? Would you ever refuse | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
someone who came to use to say they wanted euthanasia? If the person | :17:39. | :17:45. | |
does lack capacity and has no insight into what they are asking | :17:46. | :17:48. | |
they should not be given access to this option. That was not the case. | :17:49. | :17:55. | |
The facts of the case are not clear although it still remains the case, | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
all research shows that people's capacity fluctuates, they changed | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
their minds, good research from many countries saying that these things | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
are transient, one could say, how many years of experience, a lifetime | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
of experience. I suspect you would say that no one the psychiatric | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
illness should ever do an assisted suicide. We're talking about killing | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
people with mental disorders. I know that people can recover. Not | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
everyone recovers completely, I know that, but many people make | :18:32. | :18:34. | |
significant recoveries and their quality of life improves when all | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
sorts of things change around them. We are out of time, thank you both | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
very much for sharing your views on that. Let us know what you think. | :18:45. | :18:51. | |
Still to come the Commonwealth judo champion fighting for her life after | :18:52. | :18:57. | |
a motorbike accident in Vietnam. We will be speaking live to her sister | :18:58. | :18:58. | |
and her friend. The case of a father | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
who refused to pay a fine for taking his daughter | :19:02. | :19:03. | |
on a term-time holiday to Florida is due to be heard | :19:04. | :19:05. | |
by the High Court in London. Magistrates had ruled that Jon Platt | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
had no case to answer as, overall, his daughter had | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
attended school regularly. But Isle of Wight Council has asked | :19:12. | :19:13. | |
the judges to clarify Campaigners say the case | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
could redefine the way the law Well, just before we came on air | :19:17. | :19:19. | |
I spoke to Jon Platt, and asked him why he thought | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
he was right to take his daughter I do know better than the school | :19:25. | :19:34. | |
what is right for my kids. When it comes to their education I cannot | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
pretend to be qualified as a teacher but I do know what is best for my | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
kids. And quality family time is extremely important to all families. | :19:48. | :19:50. | |
We have not arrived at a situation over the last three years where | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
100,000 parents in the UK have become criminally incompetent | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
parents because that is what it requires, 100,000 parents, more than | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
that number, got fines last year. Do we really have 100,000 parents in | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
England whose parenting is so incompetent that to a criminal | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
offence? We have not. What has happened is, in 2013, Michael Gove, | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
the then Education Secretary, changed the rules allowing | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
headteachers to authorise a holiday. Now it means that almost every | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
holiday is unauthorised. The headteacher cannot authorise it. So | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
when it is not authorised to get used to go on holiday, the local | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
authority, they don't all feel obliged to but the Isle of Wight | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
authority foot obliged to do is you a truancy notice and if you don't | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
pay they feel obliged to prosecute you in court. This is an | :20:45. | :20:50. | |
imprisonable offence. So because of a holiday, the number of days that | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
your daughter was out of school because of holiday taken in term | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
time, her attendance rate at school is 93%. And you think that is a rate | :20:58. | :21:04. | |
you are comfortable with. What if she fell ill and her attendance rate | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
fell below that? I would not go on holiday. I know attendance at school | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
is important. I know sometimes I get caught up in the doom and that | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
parents should be able to take the kids on holiday and they should but | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
the attendance of the child at school should comply with the Lord | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
and I believe that north of 90% is regularly and when you are getting | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
to 94 or 95% that is really good attendance. Although if you have a | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
child missing a lot of school because of illness or some other | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
reason maybe you should not take them on holiday, just accept that | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
you need to bust permit for six months, or a year. I'm not defending | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
parents who has risen can't get their kids to school on time. I'm | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
just saying that the run at criminally incompetent parents in | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
this country so indifferent to the well-being of their children that | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
this warrants court action. You could just have paid the fines, ?60 | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
each time and have done with it, do you feel you are on a crusade? I did | :22:03. | :22:09. | |
not pick this fight. I pleaded with the education welfare Department, | :22:10. | :22:12. | |
don't take this to court because I want back down, I would defend | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
myself. And I did and now by no choice of mind we ended up with an | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
appeal to the High Court. I did not file that appeal. I don't want to | :22:21. | :22:27. | |
lose so I have to be represented. ?13,000 of my own money going on a | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
defence, an action that I have already won. If you lose will you | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
keep taking her out of school? I want to break the law, I believe I | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
haven't, if the High Court tells me today, which they are titled to dash | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
I will not break the law. If a High Court tells me today that it is a | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
criminal offence to take my child and of school for one single day I | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
will not take her away for a holiday because I don't want to break the | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
law. I haven't broken the law. The magistrates on the Isle of Wight | :23:01. | :23:02. | |
agreed that I hadn't and I hope that the High Court says so today because | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
there are hundreds of thousands of parents who care passionately about | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
this issue. Jon plat talking to me earlier. | :23:13. | :23:13. | |
Let's speak now to Saleha Davis, who was fined for taking her | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
children to Brunei for a 'once in a lifetime' family holiday. | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
In Salford we have Julie Robertson, a Solicitor who deals with cases | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
of Fixed Penalty Notices for parents, and Allan Foulds, | :23:24. | :23:30. | |
who as well as being a head teacher is the President of the Association | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
Thank you for joining us. Allan, what do you think about this case? | :23:34. | :23:46. | |
It's good to share Jon talking about the importance of education. By just | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
like to set the record straight concerning what he said about the | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
former Minister of education. Headteachers do have the right to | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
allow term time holidays in some cases. The concern, which most | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
parents do acknowledge is the impact that even a small amount of | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
non-attendance has an achievement. It's quite profound. We all want the | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
same thing which is to open doors and the best life chances for our | :24:13. | :24:18. | |
young people. Two years in the fires with parents who say taking your | :24:19. | :24:22. | |
kids on holiday in school holiday time is very expensive, much more so | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
than if they took a week at a school and if they have solid attendance | :24:28. | :24:30. | |
for the rest of the year is there a problem with this? It is easy to | :24:31. | :24:36. | |
feel cynical about the additional charges of holiday companies and I | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
do have some sympathy with parents who have those difficult choices to | :24:40. | :24:47. | |
make. But we heard earlier about a 90% attendance rate being a good | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
rate. It does sound good but if you do the numbers that is missing six | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
months of schooling across the secondary stage of schooling. That | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
will have a profound effect on learning. The way that learning | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
works. We would all be familiar with this, if you miss one little concept | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
and is hard to build on that, and the jigsaw can begin to crumble. | :25:10. | :25:20. | |
Saleha, you took your children out of school. Both of them. My | :25:21. | :25:27. | |
daughters were in you're one and U2. We went back to Brunei where I was | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
born. My family, my parents, my sisters, my brothers, their | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
families, I did not think my children lost out at school at all. | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
Why it was the holiday in term time? In December we needed to take two | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
weeks extra. One reason was because my husband and I both work in | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
project -based work so this was the time that we could take holiday, and | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
family members were coming to Brunei, we had planned this for a | :25:58. | :26:00. | |
few years, there were coming at the same time, in December so we met | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
with people we had not seen for many, many years. Allan, do you have | :26:05. | :26:12. | |
sympathy with Saleha? No one is saying that family conduct is not | :26:13. | :26:18. | |
important and the bonds of family very important in supporting an | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
education. Accent there needs to be questions asked about the catch-up | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
for young people when they come back. We share many people speak of | :26:27. | :26:32. | |
what is being referred to as a once-in-a-lifetime occasion. Whilst | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
I understand that, education is also a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
That can be very difficult to catch up from missed work. Often the will | :26:43. | :26:48. | |
is there and parents have a good heart about that and they want to | :26:49. | :26:52. | |
have the children catch up but the skill lies with the professionals | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
and teachers need to work with children continually to promote | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
their progress so that they do the very best they can. Saleha? I | :27:01. | :27:07. | |
disagree that education is once-in-a-lifetime. I think you are | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
learning things all the time, between the age of man and 99. My | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
father is turning 19 next year and I'd like to go and visit again. | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
Without taking the children away in term time? If you might hope not, my | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
daughters are now at secondary school, it might be harder to take | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
them out because she's coming up to her GCSE years and it will be fully | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
to take them away in term time. When the exams are over, even if they | :27:37. | :27:39. | |
miss a couple of days of school, I don't think that is going to... You | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
got a fine last time you took them out. Yes. I have taken them out | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
since although I did not exceed the number of days. In 2008 and took | :27:51. | :27:56. | |
them out for ten days which the headmistress board exceeded the time | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
and that led to the fine. When I went to pay the fine the education | :28:01. | :28:07. | |
of only charged me for one child. Because she understood why I went. | :28:08. | :28:14. | |
She said, that is fine. The fact that you haven't done anything to | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
incur a fine since, is that because of the fine? Is it a deterrent? I | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
don't think so. I am responsible for my children. I do not think they | :28:25. | :28:31. | |
have been damaged at all. By missing ten days of primary education. We | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
tried to catch up with all the things they had missed at school. I | :28:36. | :28:41. | |
think parents know how important education is. Allan, you are nodding | :28:42. | :28:49. | |
and smiling, does that mean you agree or disagree? I am nodding and | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
smiling because it is good to hear the intent that Saleha had in terms | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
of helping their children catch up. That is good news. I also agree with | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
the breadth and scope of education that she refers to and the fact that | :29:05. | :29:07. | |
we learn from cradle to grave. That is the truth. But it is interesting | :29:08. | :29:13. | |
to hear her talk about the importance of the GCSE years ahead. | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
Statistics are quite profound there in terms of the dip below 90% | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
attendance, almost reducing the chances of a good suite of GCSE | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
grades by about half, and we should not step aside of these statistics | :29:29. | :29:33. | |
even the parents have difficult decisions to make. There is another | :29:34. | :29:39. | |
issue about proportionality. I believe there were 70,000 fixed | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
penalty notices is you'd last year. It sounds like an extraordinarily | :29:44. | :29:46. | |
high number yet we have eight and a half million children of | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
high number yet we have eight and a being educated currently. It | :29:51. | :29:52. | |
high number yet we have eight and a is less than 1% of parents who are | :29:53. | :29:56. | |
falling into this difficulty of the fixed penalty notice. I want to | :29:57. | :30:03. | |
bring in the lawyer. Julie, you fight cases of parents find by | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
schools, are there many out there? We heard that the statistic | :30:08. | :30:13. | |
schools, are there many out there? represents a small proportion of | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
parents. I regularly advise parents on this issue. They have been told | :30:18. | :30:19. | |
that they will get a on this issue. They have been told | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
have received fixed penalty notice and want to reject it. | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
have received fixed penalty notice difficulty is with many of the | :30:28. | :30:30. | |
cases, I don't come into contact with them. The risk of litigation | :30:31. | :30:32. | |
often puts off most parents. My with them. The risk of litigation | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
parents simply accepting fixed with them. The risk of litigation | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
penalty notices or choosing to take their children out | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
penalty notices or choosing to take legitimate reasons, often. | :30:47. | :30:50. | |
penalty notices or choosing to take father is taking his case to the | :30:51. | :30:53. | |
penalty notices or choosing to take High Court today and is fighting it, | :30:54. | :30:57. | |
the case hinges on whether his daughter attended school regularly. | :30:58. | :30:59. | |
How open to interpretation is that? The education of pharmacy have to | :31:00. | :31:12. | |
prove there has been regular attendance. This case will change | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
the legal landscape, in cases of this kind. Whether that is welcomed, | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
or should be left to the magistrate's | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
or should be left to the be seen. My own | :31:29. | :31:35. | |
against the backdrop of the child in question. Their achievements, the | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
attempts to catch up after the period of the absence. | :31:41. | :31:48. | |
attempts to catch up after the clear difference between truancy | :31:49. | :31:50. | |
attempts to catch up after the a parent taking their child away for | :31:51. | :31:54. | |
very different reasons. How much is riding on the outcome of the case? | :31:55. | :32:00. | |
Would it potentially open up the possibility of a parent taking their | :32:01. | :32:03. | |
children out of school without facing the penalty fine? It will | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
change the impact of the fixed penalty, how many are issued in this | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
country. That depends on the way the ruling will go. As yet, unknown. | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
There is a definition provided by the High Court, that may result in | :32:21. | :32:29. | |
more fixed and -- penalty notices. It may well affect the number of | :32:30. | :32:36. | |
parents fighting these cases. A lot of people may be waiting for the | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
decision to be announced before they consider whether to take litigation | :32:41. | :32:46. | |
further. If we're we may get something from the hearing before we | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
stop chatting. I want to go through some of the comments, it is a | :32:52. | :32:56. | |
subject people care about. Lucas said, how can one day's absence | :32:57. | :33:02. | |
affected child's education, they can catch up. Fining parents is | :33:03. | :33:07. | |
ludicrous. The government needs to break down -- bring down the cost of | :33:08. | :33:23. | |
hot holidays. In farming areas, families can not go away during the | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
school holidays. Previously it was down to common sense. Some parents | :33:29. | :33:35. | |
started having more than 12-macro week holiday in the year, because it | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
was cheaper. Two weeks is not the problem where authorised by the | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
school, where do you draw the line? Governments should pass legislation | :33:46. | :33:54. | |
mean prices are not so higher during the school holidays. We will | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
hopefully get something before the end of the programme. Thank you for | :33:59. | :34:02. | |
joining us, sharing your perspective on that. As we await that ruling | :34:03. | :34:05. | |
from the High Court. We'll speak to the sister and friend | :34:06. | :34:10. | |
of Scottish Commonwealth judo medallist Stephanie Inglis, | :34:11. | :34:13. | |
who is fighting for her life in a Vietnam hospital | :34:14. | :34:15. | |
after a motorbike accident. Eurovision is back, without | :34:16. | :34:27. | |
island-macro, the most successful country in the competition's is to | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
be. Nicky Byrne failing to qualify. We will speak to fans and a former | :34:33. | :34:40. | |
winner. Let's catch up with the news, from the newsroom. | :34:41. | :34:42. | |
The international monetary fund is warning that a vote to leave | :34:43. | :34:45. | |
the European Union could cause substantial harm | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
The Fund says that while the UK's growth prospects | :34:50. | :35:01. | |
are 'broadly positive', it describes the long run | :35:02. | :35:02. | |
effects of a UK exit on economic output and incomes, | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
The case of a father who refused to pay a ?120 fine | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
for taking his daughter out of school for a holiday will be | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
no case to answer as, overall, his daughter had | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
But Isle of Wight Council has asked the High Court to clarify | :35:18. | :35:21. | |
whether a seven-day absence amounts to a child failing | :35:22. | :35:23. | |
Power correspondent is live at the High Court. This case being watched | :35:24. | :35:35. | |
with massive interest? A lot of parents fall into this position, | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
taking children out of school during term time because it is cheaper and | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
they cannot go during other times. Prosecuted by the local council, | :35:46. | :35:53. | |
fined ?60, up to ?120 will stop they are taken to court if they do not | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
pay. Most parents have argued extenuating circumstances, visiting | :35:58. | :36:03. | |
a sick relative, and they have failed in cases. Mr Platt said my | :36:04. | :36:10. | |
daughter has been at school for 90% plus, she is a regular attendance. | :36:11. | :36:16. | |
He won his case at the Isle of Wight Magistrates' Court. It is up to the | :36:17. | :36:20. | |
High Court to decide whether that is upheld. There will be big | :36:21. | :36:26. | |
implications for parents, saying their child is a regular tender, why | :36:27. | :36:27. | |
can't I take my child as well? An EU mission to tackle people | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
smuggling in the Mediterranean is failing to achieve its aims, | :36:32. | :36:34. | |
according to a parliamentary Operation Sophia, which began last | :36:35. | :36:36. | |
June, was launched to disrupt the business of people trafficking | :36:37. | :36:40. | |
but the House of Lords EU committee says that while the mission has | :36:41. | :36:42. | |
saved thousands of lives, it's not having any meaningful | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
impact on the smuggling networks. Firefighters have been tackling | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
a major blaze at a tyre dump The authorities have ordered | :36:51. | :36:52. | |
local residents to stay Officials have said the fire seems | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
to have been started intentionally. The advertising industry | :36:57. | :37:03. | |
is considering a total ban on adverts for unhealthy food | :37:04. | :37:05. | |
which target children. Current restrictions apply only | :37:06. | :37:07. | |
during children's TV programmes, but not to online media such | :37:08. | :37:09. | |
as gaming websites. The Committee of Advertising | :37:10. | :37:17. | |
Practice, an industry body, is proposing to extend the ban | :37:18. | :37:19. | |
to cover all media, including online, because of the rise | :37:20. | :37:21. | |
in childhood obesity. The world's oldest person has died | :37:22. | :37:23. | |
in New York at the age of 116. Doctors said Susannah | :37:24. | :37:33. | |
Mushatt Jones was born An Italian woman, Emma Morano, | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
just a few months younger than Ms Jones, now takes | :37:38. | :37:49. | |
on the mantle of oldest Join me at 11 o'clock. Let's catch | :37:50. | :37:51. | |
up with the sport. The main sports story concerns | :37:52. | :38:07. | |
Premier League side Watford. Quique Sanchez Flores will be leaving at | :38:08. | :38:12. | |
the end of the season the club have announced. He reached the FA Cup | :38:13. | :38:19. | |
semifinal, they sit 13th in the table, winning just two of their | :38:20. | :38:24. | |
last 11 matches. Jermain Defoe has scored 15 goals for Sunderland, the | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
33 roll says he has done everything right to earn a call-up to the Euro | :38:30. | :38:35. | |
2016 squad. Roy Hodgson will announce the 23 players he's taking | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
on Monday. Zlatan Ibrahimovic has confirmed he is leaving Paris St | :38:41. | :38:46. | |
Germain at the end of the season. The 33-year-old has been linked with | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
a host of Premier League clubs. Masters champion Danny Willett was | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
back in action yesterday for the first time since winning the | :38:56. | :39:03. | |
competition last month. He carded a 73 at EPC Sawgrass. Max Verstappen | :39:04. | :39:11. | |
happy sixth fastest time on his first drive for Red Bull. Serena | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
Williams says she was physically sick during the Italian Open | :39:19. | :39:21. | |
yesterday because she felt like trying out her dog's food. She still | :39:22. | :39:30. | |
won in straight sets. We see her reaction on social media afterwards. | :39:31. | :39:35. | |
I am going to try apiece, it looks good. I ate one spoonful. That is | :39:36. | :39:45. | |
the salmon and rice. Mixed together. Now I feel really sick. Just one | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
spoonful. Those are the sport headlines. The main news, Watford | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
parting company with Quique Sanchez Flores. We will have more sport | :39:56. | :40:06. | |
throughout the day. You have been getting in touch on the conversation | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
whether it is right to let people with mental health problems to take | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
their own life at a euthanasia clinic. 120-year-old girl was health | :40:15. | :40:22. | |
to die at a clinic, when it was concluded her mental health issues | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
were enough to be allowed the right to die. Richard has tweeted, people | :40:28. | :40:34. | |
should have choice over their life. We have evolved enough to make | :40:35. | :40:45. | |
choices. Mental grief is as intense as physical pain, I have been there. | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
People should have the right to die, I am 59, and have no desire to die. | :40:51. | :40:58. | |
Once I am not working any more, my children have grown up, and cannot | :40:59. | :41:05. | |
partake in the physical activities I enjoy. I want the right to choose. I | :41:06. | :41:13. | |
don't want to be stuck in a home. Getting in touch on the school | :41:14. | :41:17. | |
holidays, taking children are in turn time. We are awaiting the | :41:18. | :41:24. | |
ruling from the High Court. Dave as e-mail, the government should pass | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
legislation to prevent holiday companies altering the prizes to | :41:29. | :41:31. | |
grossly inflated levels during holidays. Absurd parents are not | :41:32. | :41:38. | |
allowed to take children out of school, why does the government do | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
this? There is no law in the land that the child is to go to school, | :41:44. | :41:46. | |
merely educated to a minimum standard. The magistrates got it | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
right. in a Vietnam hospital - | :41:50. | :41:55. | |
after a motorbike 27 year old Stephanie Inglis, | :41:56. | :41:57. | |
who won silver at the 2014 Glasgow games, suffered severe head injuries | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
in the incident in Ha Long - After being told her insurer | :42:02. | :42:04. | |
would not cover her medical costs - Stephanie's family and friends | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
launched a campaign to help raise the money and it's already reach | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
?50,000 - Stephanie's sister Stacey and her friend | :42:11. | :42:13. | |
Khalid join me now... joining us. Stacey, tell us what | :42:14. | :42:30. | |
condition your sister is in? She's in a very critical state. In a coma. | :42:31. | :42:39. | |
I don't really know what is going to happen. There is a lot of leading to | :42:40. | :42:47. | |
the brain, swelling. We are not sure what is going to happen. It must be | :42:48. | :42:54. | |
awful. So far away. You are very worried about her. Who is with her? | :42:55. | :43:03. | |
My parents are with her the moment. They arrived yesterday. I have not | :43:04. | :43:10. | |
been able to contact them this morning. The phones are not that | :43:11. | :43:17. | |
great over there. We can only get through on Wi-Fi. Trying to keep | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
everything up to date with the family. The support has been | :43:24. | :43:30. | |
amazing. You are a friend of Stephanie. You will save play judo. | :43:31. | :43:38. | |
You have joined the campaign to raise money for her treatment. Silas | :43:39. | :43:45. | |
how you first heard about this? I got a call from my mum yesterday. | :43:46. | :43:50. | |
Just letting me know about the accident. It was very severe. At the | :43:51. | :43:57. | |
time, we weren't sure as to the extent of the damage, but we were | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
told she was in a coma. The hospital was supposed to transport her to | :44:03. | :44:08. | |
another hospital. Because of the insurance not being honoured, due to | :44:09. | :44:19. | |
a technicality, she took out a year-long policy, she had not read | :44:20. | :44:24. | |
the small print, saying she could not stay in the country for over 31 | :44:25. | :44:31. | |
days. We found this out, when her parents got in touch, the hospital | :44:32. | :44:40. | |
was more concerned about how much the cost of the treatment would be, | :44:41. | :44:49. | |
rather than saving her life. They made her father signed document, to | :44:50. | :44:56. | |
be a guarantor to any costs that will be accrued. Her parents have | :44:57. | :45:04. | |
been told numerous times they would be better off serving machine off, | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
they don't know how long the treatment will take. I don't feel, | :45:09. | :45:16. | |
and did not feel at the time, enough effort was put into looking after | :45:17. | :45:27. | |
her. The fund was set up, just to get money together, in the hope | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
people would come together. Giving money towards the costs to help | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
Stephanie. Did not expect to get the response we did. It is overwhelming. | :45:39. | :45:45. | |
Testament to the person she was. People respected her for the person | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
she is. The funding we have received so far shows that. Hopefully going | :45:51. | :45:54. | |
forward we can keep that going, take the pressure away. | :45:55. | :46:00. | |
You said you have had an amazing response because people know | :46:01. | :46:06. | |
Stephanie and the sort of person she is, tell us more about her, what | :46:07. | :46:13. | |
sort of person is she. Anyone who knew her knew that she did a | :46:14. | :46:17. | |
ruthless sport, it was hard, when you watch it on TV you cannot | :46:18. | :46:20. | |
comprehend how physically intense it is. On the mat she was very good, | :46:21. | :46:26. | |
talented, off the mat you would never think that she would ever get | :46:27. | :46:31. | |
into a physical fight with anyone. She was the nicest person I have | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
ever met, she never raised a hand to anyone, all that and I've known her | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
she never said a bad word about a single person. She was in Vietnam | :46:39. | :46:49. | |
teaching and children English. -- teaching and a privileged children. | :46:50. | :46:52. | |
It was her first venture outside her sport, doing something alone. She | :46:53. | :46:56. | |
was looking forward to building her life. She had an exciting future. | :46:57. | :47:02. | |
Now she is in hospital in intensive care, not receiving the treatment | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
that I think she should be getting. I know that you are really upset but | :47:07. | :47:12. | |
you want to talk about your sister. It must be amazing to show such warm | :47:13. | :47:16. | |
tributes paid to what a lovely person she is. She is that. She is | :47:17. | :47:22. | |
my big sister. I look up to her cell much. She is one of the nicest | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
people, the best system you could probably have, so supportive to me. | :47:29. | :47:35. | |
-- the best sister. She gives the best advice ever, not but I always | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
take it fight Tory or -- not that I always take Ed! She has a way with | :47:42. | :47:48. | |
words. I just want her home. I just want her home! And any support, any | :47:49. | :47:59. | |
help to bring her home! Stacey, we send all our best wishes and we hope | :48:00. | :48:01. | |
that too. Thank you both. Let's talk more about the school | :48:02. | :48:16. | |
holidays, Gene Sauers people are aware of school holidays before | :48:17. | :48:18. | |
holidays, Gene Sauers people are have children, I have three adult | :48:19. | :48:23. | |
children, two of them with children of their own, I never took them out | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
of school, you should create your life around children, what counts is | :48:28. | :48:33. | |
spending time with them and not flying around the world. Thank you | :48:34. | :48:38. | |
all for getting in touch with that. Let's move on to the Eurovision Song | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
contest, it is back tomorrow but without the most successful country | :48:43. | :48:48. | |
in the 61 year history of the competition. | :48:49. | :48:53. | |
Ireland's contender, former Westlife singer | :48:54. | :48:54. | |
The pop star was knocked out in the semi-finals | :48:55. | :48:58. | |
Well, organisers did promise a 'dramatic finish' this year | :48:59. | :49:01. | |
and are testing our new voting rules in Saturday's final. | :49:02. | :49:03. | |
In previous contests each country's jury and public votes were combined | :49:04. | :49:05. | |
Now the votes will be split, with each country's jury vote cast | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
first, and votes from viewers in all countries combined | :49:11. | :49:12. | |
# Heartbeat, when you are not around its beatings | :49:13. | :49:33. | |
# Heartbeat, when you are not around # And it's something that I've never | :49:34. | :49:39. | |
known. Oh, oh. # I'll be the answer you've been | :49:40. | :49:43. | |
waiting for. # I'll be the truth that you've been | :49:44. | :49:49. | |
looking for. # You're not alone, we're in this | :49:50. | :49:56. | |
together. # All of that you want is right sure | :49:57. | :49:58. | |
for another # All of that you want is right sure | :49:59. | :50:04. | |
# And they don't need to know # And they don't need to know | :50:05. | :50:27. | |
# Free to let go because I'll be here for you. | :50:28. | :50:29. | |
# Free to let go because I'll be # And when you fall I'll be your | :50:30. | :50:32. | |
parachute. # Oh, oh | :50:33. | :50:41. | |
# I, I, I feel # Oh, oh | :50:42. | :50:48. | |
# I come alive when I'm with you # I come alive when I'm with you | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
# You're not alone # We're in this together | :50:54. | :50:57. | |
# You're not alone # All that you want is right sure | :50:58. | :51:02. | |
# You're not alone # And they don't need to know, oh, | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
oh, oh. # I, I, I, feel like I'm | :51:08. | :51:14. | |
the sky # I come alive when I'm with you | :51:15. | :51:28. | |
# Don't speak, your smile tells me all I need to know | :51:29. | :51:32. | |
# Your eyes show me where I want to go | :51:33. | :51:38. | |
# Oh, oh #. # You're not alone, we're in this | :51:39. | :51:42. | |
together # All that you want is with you | :51:43. | :51:48. | |
forever # And they don't need to know, and | :51:49. | :51:53. | |
they don't need to know oh, oh, oh # I, I, I feel like dancing in the | :51:54. | :52:01. | |
sky... #. It's all right, isn't it? 25-1, two | :52:02. | :52:08. | |
win. We can talk notice and super fans and also to one previous | :52:09. | :52:09. | |
winner. We can talk to Sweden's winner | :52:10. | :52:11. | |
from 1984's contest, Richard Herrey as well as fans | :52:12. | :52:13. | |
of the Eurovision, Natalie Richards in Australia | :52:14. | :52:15. | |
and Kevin Lee Lesley Sim Jason Watkins - Alistair Cheetham | :52:16. | :52:18. | |
who are in Stockholm Lesley, you were singing along, do | :52:19. | :52:25. | |
you like that one. I love them all. I'm supporting everyone with all the | :52:26. | :52:35. | |
flags! Not everyone can win! Can I bring its ten to three, France, | :52:36. | :52:39. | |
Bulgaria, and Croatia. I don't really care who wins. I love it so | :52:40. | :52:47. | |
much. Kevin, you are next to Lesley. And you spend a fortune travelling | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
around to follow your revision. Why is that? It's not just for the song | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
contest, it is an experience, once again, like Christmas, when it comes | :52:59. | :53:01. | |
to my work they know I don't care about taking a holiday in the summer | :53:02. | :53:10. | |
or at Christmas, the only holiday I want is you have Asian week. Jason, | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
I don't know if you can show us your arm but I gather you have ten | :53:15. | :53:18. | |
tattoos on Ed! Jason, can you hear me? It's Joanna. I'm not sure if | :53:19. | :53:25. | |
Jason can hear me. Hopefully we can get him to show us his arm coming he | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
has got ten Eurovision tattoos. Alistair, you are flying the flag. | :53:31. | :53:39. | |
Absolutely. Why are you such a fan of Eurovision? I agree totally with | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
Kevin and Lesley. Good friends that they are, it is good fun, you get to | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
meet new people, it is great entertainment, and good fun, and why | :53:48. | :53:53. | |
not. I said that everyone was in Stockholm, Natalie, you are in | :53:54. | :53:58. | |
Australia, you wish you were. We are in Perth, Australia. Do you watch | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
every year, how long have you been a fan. Since I was about five, Terry | :54:05. | :54:11. | |
Wogan got me into it with his great commentary, and a massive fan. I've | :54:12. | :54:16. | |
got a treat. I said we could meet a former winner, it is Richard Herrey. | :54:17. | :54:25. | |
I just want to play some of your winning entry before you speak to | :54:26. | :54:31. | |
us. It is scored Diggi-Loo, Diggi-Ley. It was the winner in | :54:32. | :54:34. | |
1984. It is classic Eurovision because it | :54:35. | :55:10. | |
brings a smile to the face and makes you want to join in. How do you feel | :55:11. | :55:18. | |
when you could it? It was a time, of course, us it meant a lot. We very | :55:19. | :55:24. | |
young. -- it was a wonderful time. It had an impact on our lives, we | :55:25. | :55:30. | |
got to go on tour and make many records, we got to see many | :55:31. | :55:33. | |
countries and meet new friends and do things that you dream of as an up | :55:34. | :55:39. | |
and coming artist. Tell us more about that. When did you decide to | :55:40. | :55:45. | |
go into Eurovision, and start to dream of perhaps winning? We were | :55:46. | :55:52. | |
younger, I was ten, when Abba won the Eurovision. In Sweden, your | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
revision was a big deal when I grew up, though for us to be asked to be | :55:57. | :56:03. | |
a part of the Swedish entry or be asked to send in songs to the | :56:04. | :56:10. | |
Swedish gravitation was big and to win the Swedish qualification was | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
very big and to win the revision, it was unbelievable. We were fortunate | :56:15. | :56:19. | |
that you have to be a bit lucky and have a good song and a good | :56:20. | :56:22. | |
performance and just hope no one else beats you! We have just been | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
looking at the pictures when you were announced as winners, how did | :56:28. | :56:33. | |
you feel then? It was euphoric. Unbelievable. Like winning a great | :56:34. | :56:40. | |
sport tournament winning the World Cup or something. It was fantastic. | :56:41. | :56:47. | |
Leslie, what has your Eurovision highlight been over the years? I | :56:48. | :56:50. | |
shook hands and said thank you to Lys Assia, the first winner. | :56:51. | :57:14. | |
What about you, Kevin? There are hundreds and hundreds of fans, we | :57:15. | :57:17. | |
see them every year and I always look forward to enjoying the contest | :57:18. | :57:23. | |
with them, together. Natalie Gumede spreading the word around Perth, | :57:24. | :57:29. | |
people catching on? They are getting there, because Australia was in and | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
last year, there is a fantastic atmosphere in all the pubs when it | :57:34. | :57:38. | |
is on, yeah. Alistair, you are hoping that the UK will win tonight, | :57:39. | :57:45. | |
do you think we could, 25-1. We've got a good position in the draw, | :57:46. | :57:50. | |
25th out of 26, we are late on, good for that, although there are a lot | :57:51. | :57:53. | |
of strong countries and in the end of the best song will win. Does it | :57:54. | :57:58. | |
matter who wins when you have all the enjoyment of the contest? I | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
don't mind where it is, it's great when it's outside the UK because you | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
see new places and meet new people, Facebook is a great thing, we are a | :58:08. | :58:17. | |
group of fans altogether on the page, it's just a great thing. It is | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
lovely to talk to you all, thank you so much for joining us. And thank | :58:22. | :58:22. | |
you for joining us as well. I hope that you have a lovely, | :58:23. | :58:25. | |
restful weekend. Goodbye. But then she goes too far. | :58:26. | :58:42. | |
Why? What happens? | :58:43. | :58:43. |