03/06/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

David Cameron says he understands why people are worried

about immigration, but says it would be madness to try

to bring the numbers down by voting to leave the EU.

We should welcome the fact that people want to come to our country,

work hard, make a contribution, pay into our system, but they ought to

pay in before they get out, and that is what I have secured. No more

something for nothing. What really happened

at Deepcut barracks in Surrey? This morning a coroner

will give his verdict in the case of Private Cheryl James,

who died there from a bullet We'll hear from the mother

of another soldier who's certain her son's death

was not suicide. The new inquest can make people come

into court, answer questions, and maybe we will get near the truth of

what happened to our children. All we have asked for from the beginning

is the truth. We just want to know the truth and give these kids just

this. A week after being abandoned by his

parents on a mountain in Japan, a seven-year-old boy has been found

alive. He was cold and hungry, but otherwise in good health. We will

get reaction from Japan. Do get in touch this morning

if you watched the Cameron Europe Are you any closer to

deciding how to vote? We'll be talking to a panel

of undecided voters a little later, And if you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. David Cameron has said the UK can

control immigration even if it He claimed that it would be madness

to try to manage the situation The Prime Minister was speaking

at his first major TV event of the referendum campaign,

during which he was accused David Cameron's political fate

rests on this referendum, And in his first live TV session,

you could see the stakes were high. He was quizzed on immigration

and the challenge of controlling But the Prime Minister kept

returning to his preferred theme. Now, if you want to get out

of the single market, which is what the Leave campaign

want to do, you will fundamentally The audience had some tough

questions, accusing David Cameron of scaremongering about life outside

the EU, and that's not all. I've seen you interrupt many

people beforehand. That is not answering

the question, OK? I was going to do Turkey,

if you want me to do Turkey. I'm an English literature student,

I know waffling when I see it, OK? There is no prospect of Turkey

joining the EU in decades. At this rate, they will join

in the year 3000. Remain supporters thought

the Prime Minister won on key arguments, but rivals

from the Leave camp said With all that stuff

about if we leave the European Union it induces the likelihood of war,

et cetera, the audience I thought that was the most telling

bit, because they were fed up with the scaremongering,

and there were accusations The spin kicked in as soon

as it was finished, with each side convinced their case was more

compelling, but with three weeks to go, they know the real challenge

is persuading the public. Tonight will be the turn

of Vote Leave to try. They hope their arguments

will resonate beyond the spin room. I have a suspicion that Downing

Street will be licking their wounds after last night's roughhouse. But

how far do you think they will be worried about the focus on

immigration? There are two issues that count in this campaign, as we

stare the final three weeks in the face. Any Gration and the economy.

The Remain camp thinks the economy is its strong card. David Cameron

was happily reciting the risks again last night. But the Leave can think

immigration is their trunk card. David Cameron tried to manoeuvre the

debate back on to economic grounds when he was pressed on immigration

hearing last night's event, but will that satisfy people? We know

immigration is of great concern, and it might come down to who you

believe about what matters to you most. We have to watch these

debates, we cannot turn over and watch the football. Does any of this

change anything? They can be crucial. If you cast your mind back

to 2010, Nick Clegg stood up in the leader debates in the general

election, many people credit his performance with putting the Liberal

Democrats in the Coalition Government. Last night was not that

pivotal moment, there were a key votes lost and one on either side,

David Cameron got a grilling, but he is familiar with the format and he

held his own. A challenge for the campaign, it is engaging public in

the debate. I don't think events like last night can hurt, unless the

politicians put a button wrong, when they can do damage.

And coming up later on BBC Newsroom Live on the BBC

News Channel, the Ukip migration and financial-affairs spokesperson

and MEP Steven Wolfe, who wants Britain to leave the EU,

will be answering your questions at 12:30pm.

You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag #BBCAskThis,

Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

A group of MPs has warned that the public will question

the point of remaining in the European Union

if the Government can't deport criminals from other EU countries.

The Home Affairs Committee said Poland, Ireland and Romania

The removal of foreign prisoners from the UK has been a contentious

MPs believe foreign nationals should be removed quickly at the end

of their sentence or even during their sentence if they can

serve the remaining time in prison in their home country.

Close to 6,000 convicted criminals are still living in Britain,

even after their release from prison.

We are very concerned first of all at the numbers in prison,

11.5% of the population, and the numbers who remain

These are people who should have left the country by now

Almost 50% have been here for more than two years.

Today, the Home Affairs Committee expressed its particular

frustration at the number of EU prisoners in the UK.

The three nationalities with the highest number

of offenders are Poland, with 983, Ireland, with 764,

The MP said one advantage of being in the EU should be

the easy removal of criminals to other member countries

and the clear inefficiencies in the system would lead

to the public to question the point of the UK remaining

The Home Office said that three times more European criminals

were being removed compared to five years ago and it expected

significant numbers of Polish prisoners to be transferred before

The verdict on a new inquest into the death of a young soldier

found shot at Deepcut barracks in Surrey will be delivered today.

Private Cheryl James, who was 18 years old,

was one of four recruits who died at the barracks

The inquest, which is the second into her death, began

in February and has heard from more than 100 witnesses.

He was missing for six days in a mountainous

region of northern Japan, but now seven-year-old

Yamato Tanooka has been reunited with his parents.

The boy was found in an army training base about four kilometres

from the roadside where his parents had left him as a punishment

It was a manhunt which involved more than 200 soldiers,

Seven-year-old Yamato Tanooka was abandoned by his parents last

Saturday in a densely-forested area on the northern island of Hokkaido.

It was a punishment for throwing stones at people and cars.

Nearly a week later, as many people were starting to give up,

He had managed to walk to a military training base,

TRANSLATION: One of our soldiers was preparing for drills

and unlocked the door of the building, and there he was.

When he asked, "Are you Yamato?," the boy said yes.

For his father, it had been an agonising week worrying

about his son while being criticised for what many saw as a punishment

TRANSLATION: My excessive behaviour caused such pain to my son.

I deeply apologise for the burden caused to the people involved

in the search, and the school faculty.

With many accusing the parents of neglect or even child abuse,

the police may take action against them.

But for now, it is a happy ending that not many had expected.

Paris is on a high state of alert this morning,

with floodwaters expected to peak on the River Seine

The city council has closed a number of roads and bridges,

while the Louvre and Orsay museums have moved artworks stored

The flooding across France and Germany has left at least ten

people dead and forced thousands from their homes.

I understand that the president is going to declare a natural disaster?

He is going to declare a natural state of catastrophe for the areas

which have been hit, and insurance related measure, allowing people to

claim money back more easily. Here the focus is on the river, which is

good to doing to rise, it has become the latest tourist attraction,

because it is quite dramatic. All of the Riverside roads have been shut

off, the famous barges and boats that are moored alongside floating

above their normal level. It is quite dramatic but I don't think it

is dangerous. It will peak at six metres above its normal level, which

sounds a lot, but it is a lot below the famous flood of 1910, which

everybody kind of remembers, when it was up at eight metres, and it

poured into surrounding streets. It will peak at six metres at around

lunchtime, because of the head of water coming down from further

upstream. We have reported on the problems in the Department upstream.

The water is coming through, causing a big rush over the next few hours.

The museums are both shot so that people can move artworks out of the

basement. The hope is that by this evening and tomorrow the head of

water will have passed through on its way to the sea and the city can

breathe again. News just coming in, a rescue is

under way in the Mediterranean, south of Crete, after a boat filled

with migrants began thinking. Greek authorities say the 250 people have

been rescued from the semi-sunken vessel so far, but it is not yet

known how many people the boat is carrying or where it is from.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

Later we'll have more reaction to the extraordinary story

of the Japanese boy left in the woods by his

We'll find out more about how he was found and ask if his parents

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

And if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

Hugh Ferris has the sport, with the start of Euro 2016

It may well have prompted more questions than given answers,

but England did at least win their final warm-up game

for Euro 2016 to head to France on the back of three in a row.

They beat Portugal 1-0 at Wembley after the visitors

Now, you don't often get a red card in a friendly,

but Bruno Alves couldn't really argue with this.

The defender sent off in the first half.

And it was a defender who eventually made them pay.

Chris Smalling heading in from Raheem Sterling late

on after what was frankly a disappointing performance,

and one that perhaps helps Roy Hodgson to manage expectations.

We will go to France recently -- reasonably confident that we can

keep this going. And also knowing full well that we are not the

finished article. I don't know how many teams are the finished article.

That is also quite a good thing, occurs had we won the three games by

four goals to nil, all people would say is, you have got to win it now.

With a young team, they won't put too much pressure on them.

So, England head to France on Monday having completed

Northern Ireland and Wales still have a game to go.

Northern Ireland play their final friendly against Slovakia

on Saturday, and Wales' last match before the Euros

Heather Knight has been appointed as new captain of the England

women's cricket team following the retirement

Knight has been the vice captain for nearly two years,

and will lead a much-changed side after senior player Lydia Greenway

also retired and wicketkeeper Sarah Taylor decided to take

Anya Shrubsole is the new vice captain.

Andy Murray will attempt to reach his first French Open final,

but he'll have to beat the reigning champion to do it.

The British number one faces Stan Wawrinka in the semi finals

He is obviously playing great tennis here the last couple of years,

especially. But, yeah, we haven't played each other much the last few

years. You know, that was indoors at the O2 last time we played. So, a

lot's changed since then. And, you may know in golf

when a player hits a wayward Well, there's a good reason

for it, so that this This is a Phil Mickelson tee

shot during the first round of the Memorial tournament

in Ohio, and that is the head Mickelson was understandably

apologetic and handed over a signed glove,

and went on to make a birdie Mickelson apparently

said if the marshal's head was a touch softer,

his shot would have I am beginning to think they should

wear crash helmets! Private Cheryl James,

an 18-year-old from north Wales, was found dead at Deepcut barracks

in Surrey in 1995. She died from a bullet

wound to the head. Cheryl was one of four recruits

to die at the base in seven years. The Army insists the deaths were all

suicides, but the families disagree. In a moment we'll hear

from the mother of another of the four, Private Geoff Gray,

but first here is a reminder of the events that led

to today's inquest. In 1995, Private Cheryl Jones was

found dead in woodland near Deepcut She was 18 and died

of a bullet to the head. Cheryl was very bright,

from an early age. She was always bubbly, centre of

attention. She was impossible to tell off

from a very early age, until she Between 1995 and 2002,

three other soldiers also died The deaths came amid claims of abuse

and bullying. And another 17-year-old,

James Collinson. The Army treated all the deaths

as suicide, but the families The current inquest is looking into

Private James' death. The previous one, in 1995,

returned an open verdict. That is when the cause of death

could not be established. From 2002 and 2003, a police

investigation into the four deaths said there was no

evidence of a crime. However, a later review of the

investigation criticised Surrey Police for not fully

investigating the death. Three years later,

a review by a senior lawyer concluded all four deaths

were probably self-inflicted. Then two years ago, the High Court

ruled the first investigation into Private James'

death was flawed. A second inquest was ordered

and that is the verdict The coroner looking into the death

has heard It will focus on the state

of her mental health at the time. And he will also look at a claim of

attempted rape. Six years after the death

of Cheryl James, in 2001, 17-year-old Private Geoff Gray

was also found dead He had two gunshot wounds

to the head. The original inquest

recorded an open verdict. Since then, for the last 14

years his parents have been fighting a campaign for not only a second

inquest into his death, but a public inquiry

into the events at Deepcut. Just before we came on air,

Private Gray's mum Diane joined me, before heading off to Cheryl James'

inquest in Surrey. Diane, this is clearly a huge day

for you. But just give us a sense first of all about Geoff, the sort

of boy he was, why he joined the Army, what he was hoping for in the

Army. He really - he loved the Army. He went by himself and he joined up

for the Army. He had no hesitation with it, if that's what he wanted to

do we were happy with it and he went himself and sorted things out and

then took his father with him to sign him up. He was quite happy. Had

it always been an ambition of his to become a soldier? I don't think it

was. From being small he enjoyed being in the Scouts and he followed

the Scouts all the way through. He did like some sort of regime and

discipline type of thing. I think what spurred him on the most was

because when he was 15 he went to a park and done a run and he became

east London's fastest man at 100 metres with over 12 seconds and

somebody spotted him from the Army and said we can help you make a

career of this and I think that put the seed into his head and started

him thinking about joining the Armiment So here you have a

17-year-old boy in the Army. Now, did you get any impression from him

that he was being bullied or he was uncomfortable with the culture, was

there anything that gave you a sense that this is all going wrong? No,

none whatsoever. Absolutely nothing. He was quite an open person. If he

had a problem we would talk about his problems. We always - a very

close family and we discussed things like that. If anybody had anything

wanted to say, they would come out and say it, very blunt. He would say

what he thought. He didn't hide his feelings. So when you learned of his

death, I mean, that must have been utterly devastating, but more than

that, did you ever believe that he had taken his own life? Not for one

moment. I think every parent knows their child and you just know, hang

on, that's out of the blue. Just, I couldn't comprehend it. It was just

something, like, what? Total shock to begin with and, hang on, you are

trying to tell me he has done it himself? And it was, you know... I

was told three shots were heard at 1. 15 this morning and Geoff was

found dead. Did he miss twice? I was unaware then that he had been shot

twice. It was just out of the blue... What was the sort of initial

response from the military? Um... They just told us that, you know,

try and keep it quiet. He has committed suicide. Don't put shame

on the family. You don't want to put shame on the family? Yeah. So that

to me was a... Did you ever think possibly this could be correct or

no, this is not believable? From the beginning I thought it's not

believable. But then over time I began to think, well, you know,

maybe it is right. Maybe it is what they're telling us, it's suicide.

But the more I found things out, the more it became more bizarre and the

more proof I was getting that it wasn't suicide. Let's just talk

through the mechanics of who actually carried out the

investigation and what did they do? Originally the coroner's office was

first on the scene. She took some things. Then Surrey Police arrived.

They didn't do much investigation. I can remember a few days after we

were told about his death I phoned Surrey Police and said I want to

speak about my son who died at Deepcut and they gave me a total

different name. I said, no, my son's called Geoff. Again they gave me a

different name. So that raised doubts. Hang on, has there been a

death before Geoff, which there had been because Geoff had already told

me that a boy had died a few weeks before him. Again they were took to

a room and he said, we were told, the boy committed suicide. But I

never heard anything more from Geoff about that. But I did later find out

that, through Surrey Police, the boy had taken an overdose. What did you

think was going on, did you think it was incompetence? Yet I didn't think

anything at the time, because I was thinking well, the police will do

their investigations, you know, we trust the police, we think that they

are going to do, maybe too much CSI or something, but we trust the

police and think they're going to do a thorough investigation and that's

what I thought at the time. I thought they would do a thorough

investigation. What do you think now, because obviously there's been

this review by the Cornwall Police of what the Surrey Police

investigated and their work which had been highly critical, when you

look at that what is your assessment of what was going on? Devon and

Cornwall look at Surrey Police's investigation and they picked up a

lot of flaws from Surrey Police. They found out they were supposed to

follow what's called the murder manual and they didn't. All they

looked at was suicide, which they shouldn't have. They... Their

mindset was? Suicide from the very beginning. It shouldn't have been.

It should have been open and they should have looked at different

aspects and different scenarios and certain things, you know, they

should have looked and gone from murder, down to suicide. But they

didn't. They started at suicide and made everything fit into suicide.

What I am interested in is whether you think they were just not up to

the job, they had already decided it was suicide or whether you think

there was something else going on here? We have received documents

from Surrey Police, at the original inquest we had about 20 pages of

papers before we went in. This time we have 20,000 documents from the

reinvestigation. Within them documents we can find out that

Surrey Police have been, not incompetent, they've had the mindset

of suicide, they've followed suicide, and there is things in

there they've never told us, we had to find out ourselves. Maybe, I

don't know, maybe I can say it's a cover-up, I don't know. Why do you

say that? Because it's been sue from the very beginning with the Surrey

Police. -- suicide. If it is suicide, why? What would be their

motivation to cover up? I have no idea. That's something I can't

understand, I never can understand that, I don't know why. And why

they've been told to make it look like a suicide. I have no idea. Do

you suspect it may be because of the bad publicity for the Army, that

they wanted to douse that down, is that part of it? No idea. I really,

really, don't know. At first we think this is a big cover-up. But

the more we have looked into it and the more information we are getting

from it, it's just... Bizarre and why would Surrey Police want to make

it look like a suicide? There was a lot of collaboration going on with

the Army at the time. Why did they have to do that? Why were they going

to dinners with the police and Army getting together and having dinners

and things, why was there a need for that? Your son is one of four. Yeah.

How did you get involved with the other families and what was the sort

of - how did you work together, or did you work together? When Geoff

died we let the police get on with their investigations. Six months

later, there was a little piece in the newspaper saying that another

person had been shot at Deepcut. So I phoned the coroner's officer and I

asked her, will you pass my number on to the parents. Later on that day

I received a phone call from the parents of James Collinson and said

what have you been told. She said we have been told he committed suicide.

I said, do you believe that? She said, no. I said believe what's in

your heart. One thing I will say, please whatever you do, do not get

him cremated because one day you will need to go back and look at him

again, which it was true. He did have to be exhumez and they did find

evidence that will come to light later. Today we have the inquest

into Cheryls James. Previously an open verdict. What do you hope for

from this inquest? From the inquest I am hoping that it will open the

doors for the other families to have a new inquest because it sets a

precedent so that we can have a new inquest and then when we have the

new inquest more things will come to light because it's - because you can

bring people to bring evidence. At the time there was a review. This

was ordered by the Labour Government? That's right. I think

that was to try to keep us quiet because we have been asking for a

public inquiry all the way along and keep getting turned down. Rather

than do that they gave us a Blake Inquiry but it was only an inquiry,

it had no powers to bring people. He had limited information at the time.

Now we have a lot more information. He can only work on the information

he is given from the police and if the police don't want him to know

certain things they're not going to give it to him. So he is limited to

what he could review. Therefore, his conclusions, you know, he came up

with the same scenario, it must be suicide. But now the new inquest can

make people come to court and answer questions and maybe we will get

somewhere near the truth of what happened to our children. All we

have asked for, from the very beginning, is the truth, we just

want to know the truth and give these kids justice.

You'll hope is that the inquest could pave the way to an inquest

into your son. We will put an application in to the Attorney

General, and hope to get our original inquest overturned, and

then a new inquest opened. One of the extraordinary things is you have

kept going all this time. On a personal level, have you ever

doubted, have you ever thought, I have to move on with my life? For

you personally, what has this been like? It has put a strain on the

family health-wise. Some days you want to give up, some days you

think, my son was worth fighting for, and I will fight to the end to

get justice for him. Any parent that loses a child and they don't do what

happened, surely that is all we ask for, the truth, you want to know

what happened so that you can move on with your life.

More reaction later in the programme.

Cameron faces tough questioning over immigration in his first EU debate.

We ask a panel of our undecided voters how they saw it.

And the seven-year-old boy who went missing after his parents left him

alone in a forest for being naughty is found unharmed after six days.

Here's the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

David Cameron has said the UK can control immigration even if it

The Prime Minister was speaking at his first major TV event

of the referendum campaign, during which he was accused

The PM claimed it would be madness to try to manage the levels

of migration after leaving the single market.

A group of MPs has warned that the public will question

the point of remaining in the European Union

if the Government can't deport criminals from other EU countries.

The Home Affairs Committee said Poland, Ireland and Romania

The Home Office said three times more European criminals

were being removed compared to five years ago.

The verdict on a new inquest into the death of a soldier found

shot at Deepcut barracks in Surrey will be delivered today.

Private Cheryl James was one of four young recruits

who died at the barracks between 1995 and 2002.

The inquest, which is the second into her death, began in February

and has heard from more than 100 witnesses.

A rescue operation is underway in the Mediterranean,

south of the Greek island of Crete, after a boat filled

Greek authorities say that 250 people have been rescued

It's not yet known how many people the boat is carrying,

A seven-year-old boy who was left on a mountain road in Japan

as a punishment by his parents has been found unharmed

Yamato Tanooka was discovered in an army training base

about four kilometres from where his parents had left him.

He was cold and hungry but otherwise in good health.

There have been calls for his parents to be prosecuted

for leaving him in an area which has many wild bears.

His father said he had apologised to Yamato.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

Hugh Ferris has this morning's sports headlines now.

Roy Hodgson's assessment that England are not the finished article

would not have come as a surprise to those who watched them beat logical

1-0 in their final friendly. A Chris Smalling header late on. Woodland go

to France on the back of three straight victories.

Heather Knight is the England women's cricket team captain

following the retirement of Charlotte Edwards. She steps up from

being vice captain. Andy Murray will attempt to reach

his first French Open final, but he will have to beat the reigning

champion, Stan Wawrinka, in the semifinals this afternoon.

Greg Rutherford jumped as far as he did to claim gold at the London

Olympics to win the long jump Diamond League event in Rome last

night. 8.31 metres. His best leap of the season so far.

More later. David Cameron was accused

of "waffling" and "hypocrisy" by some people at last night's TV

debate on Sky, but he gave an impassioned defence of why

he believes Britain should remain He conceded that immigration

is a worry for many people, but said leaving is not the answer,

and he said a life outside the EU risks rolling a dice

with our children's future. We will talk to our audience of

undecided voters in a moment. First, let's listen to some

of what he had to say. I put it to you again that

you just cannot control... I mean, it is oxymoronic,

some might say lose the "oxy", You cannot control freedom

of movement, so why did As I say, there have been many years

where movements of people out of Britain into Europe,

out of Europe into Britain can have You knew this a year ago

when you re-stated this promise. You made the promise again,

and it is a promise which cannot be fulfilled while we remain

in the European Union. I think it remains the right

ambition for Britain. You seriously think it can be

fulfilled whilst we stay Because there have been years,

and there will be again, where people from Britain choose

to go and work overseas... Has this happened in any single year

of your Premiership? It happened in the first year I set

out the ambition. Can you seriously see it happening

at any period whilst you're still Prime Minister

in the next four years? What I will say, Faisal,

is there are good ways of controlling immigration,

and there are bad ways. A good way is doing what I did

in my renegotiation. Sometimes this organisation

drives me crazy, but do I sit there and think Britain would be

better off if we left? Do we think we quit

the European Union, we quit the single market, and somehow

we will be better off? The European Union does not stop

existing if we left. The Channel does not

get wider if we leave. A group of people would be sitting

round a table making decisions about our biggest market,

about the future of our continent, about things which affect us,

and we would have our nose sort of pressed to the window

trying to find out what Now I will answer your

question about Turkey. No, no, let me finish now,

I have seen you interrupt I am an English literature

student, I know How can you reassure the people

who do want to vote out, because I have many friends

who want to vote out, that we are safe from extremism,

when we are willing to work with a government like Turkey,

who want to be part of the EU, when, like I said, they are under

heavy acceleration? It is like Saudi Arabia,

who we sell military arms to. There is no prospect of Turkey

joining the EU in decades. At this rate, they will

join in the year 3000. Do you regret the personal damage

that your scaremongering campaign has done to your

reputational legacy? James, with respect,

I don't agree. I think there is a very

positive case for staying It is about jobs, it is

about Britain's strength and place in the world,

it is about keeping us safe. I think there are real

risks from leaving. I don't accept it is

scaremongering, sir. I am genuinely worried about Britain

leaving the single market. I think he probably needed a stiff

drink after that. Fiona Bell is 48 and a health

campaigner from Northumberland. She took part in the Sky

debate last night. Jo Musa is a 28-year-old business

entrepreneur who is undecided, and so is Moghul Veyhron,

who is a 27-year-old music Joining us from our Salford studio

is 35-year-old mum Sofia Ahmed, who's undecided and thinks

immigration is one of And Rebecca Connolly

is 19 and was undecided. She joins us from our

Belfast studio. You were there, would you hyped up

on Coffey something? It seemed to be a rough house. It was a 3-way split.

The undecided people, the ones who wanted to be in and the ones who

wanted to vote out. What came across quite strongly. There were quite a

few young people in the audience, some of them wanted to vote in, but

they were quite angry with David Cameron. They had legitimate

reasons. They have had tuition fees put up to 9000 a year, they were

asking how they can afford to live, you have got the likes of student

nurses that will not get bursaries anymore. Where you GW for to get

really pumped up, or was that the natural response? It was the natural

response to David Cameron. After the cameras stop rolling it still going

on. He watched on the box, lurched -- let's talk David Cameron. Did he

do with decent job selling Remain? He tried his best, but I think

people are disgruntled with him. There is a lot of distrust, which

makes it difficult for us to decipher the real issue. A lot of it

went on to the NHS and other things, but the issue is not what we are

walking away from but what we are walking away with. I agree. People

are trying to address everything in one setting, that is what caused

uproar. Do I think he has sold it? Not necessarily. He reiterated the

same point again and again, he talked about the car industry, the

one economy, so he kept coming back to the same point, but there was no

progression or direction of where we are going. There was a constant

refrain in the audience that he was scaremongering, he was trying to

frighten voters. Do you think basically he is trying to give you

the heebie-jeebies, make is terrified and he is over inflating

the argument? Of course. I am glad the audience brought it up. It has

been bordering on the ridiculous, world War three is going to start,

there will be holding in courts of Turkish people coming in. That is a

reason why I am undecided, because I don't think I have had concrete

arguments from either side of the debate. I am glad the audience

picked that up and went for it regarding that. He had his serious

face on, he said, I think there are risks, pay attention. Do you think

he genuinely is worried? Or is it a PR pitch to try and put the squeeze

on people, that they dare not take the risk? I think it is a bit of

both. It is both from both sides. Who can scare who the most and who

can scare who into leaving or staying? I am very undecided, my

heart says to stay in Europe, but I am coming into work everyday and I

am looking at the newspapers, they say, if we stay, this will happen,

you will lose your jobs. We have not been given any concrete evidence. I

am interested in politics, I have gone out of my way, I travelled to

Brussels to see what the EU looks like. For somebody that would not be

interested, I cannot imagine what it would be like. There is a lot of

concern about the tone of debate, the lack of information. One subject

which came up again and again last night was immigration. Would that

shaped the way you decide to vote? Is it an issue which you think, that

is what is going to make my mind up? I don't know. In terms of the NHS,

where I am coming from, we are dammed if we do and we are done if

we don't. The NHS has loads of nurses, doctors. Yes, hard-working

nurses and doctors from abroad. They prop up the NHS. Does that not make

you think, we depend on them? You have to look at the flip side, and

you say to David Cameron, as I tried to last night, will he give these

stuff the tools and resources if we stay in so they can do the job and

meet the demand? If you look across the NHS, it is struggling, it is in

crisis. Paramedics and Anne Boleyn screws, only last night I had a

family contact me, they said their mother was on a jolly in accident

and emergency for six hours because the paramedics had to stay with her

until she could be booked in -- on age folly. They don't have the

resources. If we stay in, we need the resources so that the staff can

do the job. If we go out, how do we fill the gaps? Your take on

immigration? It is coming back to immigration a lot. We are a

forward-thinking nation. We have problems in front of us. Staying in,

we know what the hurdles are, we can try to work those things out. By

leaving, I don't think it will solve a problem like immigration. We will

just end up with a few more problems. For some like me, just a

general person who is trying to look into the issue, I am not hearing

anything sound about how it is going to be dealt with either way. If we

leave, it is not necessarily going to provide the answers we think we

are going to get. Jo? Absolutely. There's nothing

concrete to say are we better staying or leaving? That's the key

issue, are we better off? As a forward thinking nation as you said

we have to always look ahead of time and not wait for the issue to come

to our door. In a case like this, you know, we migrate everywhere,

people do business abroad and people do business here. We have to look at

how does that affect our trade and everything else. So it's not just

what is good for Britain but gad for everyone as a whole. Sofia, the

argument seemed to be I will immigration is an issue but more

important is ensuring the economy kicks ticking over and I think it

was said let's not crash the economy to deal with immigration. In your

mind, is that the sort of decision you have to make, whether the

economy is more important than immigration, is that how you weigh

up the arguments here? I know that David Cameron tended to kind of push

everything towards that. He must have said single economy about

100,000 times! The single market. Yeah, the amount of times he said

that last time was just astronomical. For me this debate

around the immigration is troubling. As a second generation Pakistani

from an immigrant family I am worried about the way that people

have been framing this debate in the media, the way politicians have been

framing it. There seems to be a lot of scapegoating. I personally

believe that the problem that is we have with public services shouldn't

all come down to the fact that we have a lot of immigrants coming from

the Eastern Europe and various other places in Europe, it's down to the

fact that we are underfunding the actual services and the fact that

there has been massive cuts that have affected the NHS that have

affected day-to-day lives for people that live in areas with high

immigrants and really to stop scapegoating immigrants. I don't

think that's an issue. Rebecca, is this an argument about immigration

or is it again an aringment about David Cameron because he is stuck on

this pledge of his to get net migration down to the tens of

thousands. I wonder if the issue is not much about immigration, but

about David Cameron's credibility and trust again because people think

he hasn't kept that pledge, I am not sure I trust him. Cameron's

character has come into question. He came back from Europe with this

grand pledge that not many people actually trusted. So I do feel like

immigration and the whole subject around it has been used as a

scapegoat. I don't feel immigration is the issue. A lot of people,

especially in Northern Ireland, a lot of people blame immigration on

the feeling - failing of our NHS. Northern Ireland especially, we know

that what needs to be done with our NHS. It's our decision-makers won't

put it into play. I mean, I reject the point that it is immigration.

But I believe that David Cameron is using it as a scapegoat. You have

said you went over to Brussels to look at the institutions so you are

clearly someone motivated. What more do you need to hear and what do you

want to hear to make your mind up? I mean, I really believe that there is

no right or wrong answer when it comes to voting in or out. I think

that it's a personal answer. So, I want to know personally what it

would mean to me if we stayed in Europe and if we left. As a young

person in full-time employment this year, going into full-time education

next year I want to know what would benefit me if I stayed or if I left.

Briefly, Sofia, what's the key thing for you now that's going to

determine how you vote? The key thing for me is based on the way

that the debate carries on from here. I want people to start

speaking facts, I want them to stop kind of using scare tactics. I want

them to give us facts, give us details and treat us like adults

really. Any clearer after watching the debate, Moghul? I want more

information on what he means when he talks about special negotiations if

we stay in, I want to know what they are going to be specifically and how

they affect us going forward. At this point I am at a position where

I feel like staying in seems like a better option because we have spent

decades building this relationship in the EU and abandonment seems more

scary than to stay in. I really want more information on the special

agreements. Jo, have you decided where the your cross will go? I am

leaning to staying, I need to hear a stronger argument for leaving.

That's what we are waiting for. Fiona? My view is David Cameron

needs to pack his bags and leave Number 10 and let's have an honest

debate with facts and not the rubbish that he is spouting at the

moment. Guys, thank you very much. It's probably a couple of stiff

drinks that David Cameron needed last night!

This coming Monday we're hosting a big audience debate just

over a fortnight before the EU referendum.

Victoria will be live in Manchester with an audience of 150 voters

She'll be asking whether Britain will be better off in or out

of the European Union when it comes to jobs, the economy, immigration,

That's live on Monday from 9.00am on BBC Two, the BBC

Sentencing continues in the case of Richard Huckle -

one of Britain's worst paedophiles - who's admitted raping

and sexually abusing Malaysian children while working

who represents abuse victims in south-east Asia.

A seven-year-old boy who was left on a mountain road in Japan

as a punishment by his parents has been found unharmed six days later.

Yamato Tanooka was discovered in an army training base about four

kilometres from where his parents had left him.

His parents initially claimed he had got lost, but eventually

admitted briefly abandoning him for being naughty.

His father has apologised, saying, "We went too far."

TRANSLATION: My excessive behaviour caused my son such pain

and inconvenienced so many people, including the people at his school.

To the people that helped search for him, for that I am deeply sorry.

The first thing, the very first thing, I said to my son is,

"I am so sorry for having caused you so much pain.

And I admit what we did was excessive, and I had no idea it

I deeply regret my excessive behaviour, but I did

In a moment, we'll speak to a survival-skills specialist,

but first let's get the latest from our correspondent Mariko Oi.

This is an extraordinary story. First, how is the -- somehow the

young lad? Amazingly, he is apparently in good health. The

doctor who has been looking at him has actually said that he had minor

injuries, but other than the fact that he was slightly dehydrated and

very hungry, mind you, because he hadn't eaten all week, he was

actually very well. So quite an extraordinary situation, as you say.

How did they eventually find him and I imagine there was massive search

parties out trying to discover him? Indeed. There were more than 200

police officers, firefighters, civilians and Japanese Army involved

looking for him. In the end he had actually found a shelter in a

military training base and when some soldiers went there for training

they found him there and he has managed to get some access to water

and he actually slept between two mattresses which were left there. He

has done very, very well. Incredible boy. Let's talk a little bit about

the parents. We have all heard of go and stand on the naughty step, but

it's another thing surely to abandon your seven-year-old in woods with

bears and that sort of thing. Two thoughts really. What has been the

public reaction and is there any sense that social services or the

police or anything like that are going to get involved? Are there

charges or anything that the parents may now face? Well, I guess there is

a possibility that the police would take action against the parents. So

far we haven't heard anything from the authorities. People have

suggested that this is child abuse and therefore something should be

done to the parents, especially online. The majority of people agree

that this measure was a step too far and the father did something wrong.

There was a lot of criticism against him. But at the same time,

especially after hearing his very emotional press conference that he

held today, some people said maybe he thought he was doing the right

thing, maybe he was genuinely concerned and even though he

admitted that it was a step too far it was just - it happened all in a

moment and it happened to be very tragic situation which happily

ended, which was a surprise. What an extraordinary story. Thank you so

much. Ross Findlay is the founder

of Niseko Adventure Centre in Hokkaido, which trains kids

in survival skills in the area. I am amazed at this young lad. I

mean, six days on his own. How difficult, are you surprised that a

young lad like that could survive? What an amazing kid. To be able to

survive six days and six nights. We had snow in a few days over there in

the mountains here so it was very cold, as well. He he has done very

well. Do you have any sense or do we know how he managed to do this and

what should he have done? If you are in that situation, a young kid, what

are they supposed to do? What else could you do? He found shelter, he

found water and something to keep himself warm. He has done fantastic,

hasn't he? You train kids in survival skills, what lessons do you

try and give them and what sort of knowledge do you try and pass on to

them? Well, we couldn't do much more than that, find shelter and water,

the main things and keep warm, especially in the cold woods there.

Where he walked was very thick undergrowth and people searching for

him, the undergrowth that thick thick if he had been lying down they

would have had to tread on him. He was lucky he found shelter by

himself. And six days out in the woods on his own, and snow. Let's be

blunt, his life could have been at risk. Definitely. He hadn't eaten

for six days. The energy would be going right down. The cold and that

would be taking more an effect without the energy. Again he has

done very well. I am not planning on getting lost in any woods any time

soon, but should it happen, what do you eat? You have to have a bit of

knowledge. This time of year it's mainly sprouts. Sprouts! Sprouts as

in, not brussel sprouts. I am not fond of them! This time of year a

lot of people go to the forest to find sprouts, natural wild, what do

you call them, vegetables and things. You mainly cook them or fry

them. I am guessing water absolutely critical? Yeah, this time of year

it's very hard with food, I think. Later in the year when you get

berries and things it's easier. Ross, thank you very

much indeed for that: Now the latest weather with John.

It's delightful in some parts of the country, notably western areas.

Beautiful shot from Pembrokeshire, in contrast to the gloomy picture

sent in by one of our weather watchers in Essex. You can see the

reason why. All this cloud again across the east

of of the country. Beautiful clear skies and sunshine out west. Not a

lot will change today. The cloud edging further westwards but it's a

slow process. Dampness in that cloud too. Further west it stays

delightful with blue skies and sunshine through the afternoon.

I mentioned showers, heaviest across the north of Scotland this

afternoon. One or two thundery bursts but further south and west we

hold on to the brightness. Northern Ireland, a fantastic week and

another fantastic day with temperatures around 20. West Wales

and the west of England enjoying more sunshine. The cloud gradually

creeping across with the odd spot. That's going to affect temperatures

again, disappointingly cool, in contrast to potentially 20 along the

Welsh coast. Into the evening time the cloud continues to ease

westwards, giving the odd shower but most places will stay dry. Murky and

humid there and misty along eastern coastal areas. Last night we reached

close to zero in one or two places, muggy tonight. That sets the scene

for a warm weekend. We will all see some sunshine. There will be

scattered heavy downpours. One or two sharp showers tracking west

across the heart of England. The afternoon one or two lively

downpours, possibly thunder storms in the mix. At long last some

sunshine across eastern counties of England. By Sunday most places will

be enjoying sunshine. Still a few showers across south-west of England

and south-west Wales, maybe Northern Ireland. Most of us warm in the

sunshine. Cooler again along the North Sea coasts with the breeze

back in off the sea. Further ahead, it's all about warmth next week.

Feeling muggy and temperatures potentially up to high 20s. But

thunder storms will be developing, and spreading up from the

south-west. And continental Europe seeing further unwanted rain.

Hello, welcome to the programme if you've just joined us.

We have been getting reaction to David Cameron's impassioned defence

of Britain remaining in the EU in last night's TV debate. He was

accused of scaremongering, as it helped you make up your mind?

It has been bordering on the ridiculous, world War three is about

to start, there will be marauding hordes of Turkish people coming in.

That is why I am undecided, I have not had any concrete arguments from

either side of the debate. I am glad the audience picked it up and went

for it. We will get more reaction and hear

from the Leave campaign. What really happened

at Deepcut barracks in Surrey? This morning a coroner

will give his verdict in the case of 18-year-old Cheryl James,

who was found dead with a gunshot The mother of a second teenage

soldier who died there tells us she's certain her son's

death was not suicide. The new inquest can make people come

into court, answer questions, and maybe we will get near the truth

of what happened to our children. All we have asked for from

the beginning is the truth. We just want to know the truth

and give these kids justice. And, the West London football team

helping the radicalise kid in the Brussels suburb known as Europe was

Mike jihadi haven. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. David Cameron has said the UK can

control immigration even if it The Prime Minister was speaking

at his first major TV event of the referendum campaign,

during which he was accused The PM claimed it would be madness

to try to manage the levels of migration after leaving

the single market. People have come to our country to

work, but the way to meet that challenge must not be to leave the

single market, harm our economy, hurt jobs.

But Vote Leave campaigners said they have the Prime Minister ruffled.

All of that stuff about, if we leave, that induces the likelihood

of war, the audience laughed at that. That will be most telling bit,

they were fed up of the scaremongering and there were

accusations from the audience of scaremongering.

And coming up later on BBC Newsroom Live on the BBC

News Channel, the Ukip migration and financial-affairs spokesperson

and MEP Steven Wolfe, who wants Britain to leave the EU,

will be answering your questions at 12:30pm.

You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag #BBCAskThis,

A group of MPs has warned that the public will question

the point of remaining in the European Union

if the Government can't deport criminals from other EU countries.

The Home Affairs Committee said Poland, Ireland and Romania

The Home Office said three times more European criminals

were being removed compared to five years ago.

Three bodies have been recovered and 302 people have been rescued so far

from a sinking boat carrying what they say is a significant number of

migrants. It's not yet known how many people

the boat is carrying, The verdict on a new inquest

into the death of a soldier found shot at Deepcut barracks in Surrey

will be delivered today. Private Cheryl James was one

of four young recruits who died at the barracks

between 1995 and 2002. The inquest, which is the second

into her death, began in February and has heard from more

than 100 witnesses. A seven-year-old boy who was left

on a mountain road in Japan as a punishment by his parents has

been found unharmed Yamato Tanooka was discovered

in an army training base about four kilometres

from where his parents had left him. He was cold and hungry

but otherwise in good health. There have been calls

for his parents to be prosecuted for leaving him in an area

which has many wild bears. His father said he had

apologised to Yamato. That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. One tough young boy. Some of the

e-mails and text you have been sending in after last night's with

David Cameron. Kerry said, David Cameron has convinced me which way

to vote. He and George Osborne are the best assets in the Brexit

campaign have, I am voting out. John says, it is whether we want

ourselves and our children and future generations to be dictated to

by unelected career politicians in the EU. On the pro Remain side, Neil

says, if Brexit goes ahead, the UK will have to replicate functions

currently carried out by the EU. We will lose economies of scale.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

And if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

Hugh Ferris is back with more sport now.

Now, Roy Hodgson's picked his players for Euro 2016.

Where to play them is the next question.

A few didn't necessarily show great form in the formation the manager

used in their unconvincing 1-0 win over Portugal,

which at least means they're heading to France

But Bruno Alves couldn't really argue with this.

The defender sent off in the first half at Wembley.

And it was a defender who eventually made them pay.

Chris Smalling heading in Raheem Sterling's cross late

on after what was frankly a disappointing performance,

and one that perhaps helps Roy Hodgson to manage expectations.

We will go to France reasonably confident

And also knowing full well that we are not

I don't know how many teams are the finished article.

That is also quite a good thing, because had we won the three games

4-0, all people would say is, "You have got to win it now."

With a young team, they won't put too much pressure on them.

So, England head to France on Monday having completed

Northern Ireland and Wales still have a game to go.

Northern Ireland play their final friendly against Slovakia

on Saturday and Wales' last match before the Euros

Heather Knight has been appointed as new captain of the England

women's cricket team following the retirement

Knight has been the vice captain for nearly two years and will lead

a much-changed side after senior player Lydia Greenway also retired

and wicketkeeper Sarah Taylor decided to take an indefinite

Anya Shrubsole is the new vice captain.

Andy Murray will attempt to reach his first French Open final,

but he'll have to beat the reigning champion to do it.

The British number one faces Stan Wawrinka in the semi-finals

He has played great tennis here for the last couple of years especially.

We have not played each other much for the last few years. That was in

doors at the O2 the last time we played. A lot has changed since

then. And finally to a safety warning

from the fairways of the PGA Tour. Maybe wear a hard hat rather

than a sun hat. This is Phil Mickelson's tee

shot on the par-five 15th during the first

round of the Memorial And that is the head

of a tournament marshal. Mickelson was understandably

apologetic and handed over a signed Mickelson apparently said

if the marshal's head was a touch softer, his shot would have

ended up on the fairway. But he did at least go

on to make a birdie. I am concerned that health and save

the officials will be buoyed to make sure people are not heading the ball

is from the undergrowth. If it helps the golfers, they will

be happy for them to head it onto the fairway!

This morning, a coroner will deliver his findings

in the case of Private Cheryl James, a young Army recruit

who died at the infamous Deepcut barracks in 1995.

She was one of four young people to take their life on the barracks,

but their families have always maintained that there

were unanswered questions about their deaths and questions

In 1995, Private Cheryl Jones was found dead in woodland near Deepcut

She was 18 and died of a bullet to the head.

Cheryl was very bright, from an early age.

She was always bubbly, centre of attention.

She was impossible to tell off from a very early age, until she

Between 1995 and 2002, three other soldiers also died

The deaths came amid claims of abuse and bullying.

And another 17-year-old, James Collinson.

The Army treated all the deaths as suicide, but the families

The current inquest is looking into Private James' death.

The previous one, in 1995, returned an open verdict.

That is when the cause of death could not be established.

From 2002 and 2003, a police investigation into the four

deaths said there was no evidence of a crime.

However, a later review of the investigation criticised

Surrey Police for not fully investigating the death.

Three years later, a review by a senior lawyer

concluded all four deaths were probably self-inflicted.

Then two years ago, the High Court ruled the first investigation

into Private James' death was flawed.

A second inquest was ordered and that is the verdict

The coroner looking into the death has heard

It will focus on the state of her mental health at the time.

And he will also look at a claim of attempted rape.

Earlier, I spoke to the mother of Private Geoff Gray,

who is one of the four recruits to die at the base over seven years.

Diane Gray told me that she has never believed her son

Every parent knows their child. I could not comprehend it. It was

something that... What? Total shock to begin with. You are trying to

tell me he has done it himself? I was told three shots were heard at

1:15am and he was found dead. I said, did he missed twice? Out of

the blue. What was the initial response from the military?

They said, try and keep it quiet, he has committed suicide, you don't

want to put shame on the family. Did you ever think this could be

correct or not, this is not believable? From the beginning I

thought it is not believable, but over time I began to think, maybe it

is right, maybe it is a suicide. But the more I found things out, the

more bizarre it became, and the more proof I got that it was not a

suicide. We have the inquest into Cheryl James today. Previously an

open verdict. You hope that today's inquest could pave the way possibly

to an inquest into your son's death? We will put an application into the

Attorney General and get our original inquest overturned, and

then a new inquest opened. One of the extraordinary things

is you have kept On a personal level,

have you ever doubted, have you ever thought,

"I have to move on with my life"? For you personally,

what has this been like? It has put a strain

on the family health-wise. Some days you want to give up,

some days you think, my son was worth fighting for,

and I will fight to the end Any parent that loses a child

and they don't do what happened, surely that is all we ask for,

the truth, you want to know what happened so that you can

move on with your life. A review of what went

on at Deepcut concluded that there was harassment,

discrimination and oppressive behaviour, but that the deaths

were probably self-inflicted. Following a long fight

by the families and their legal teams, Cheryl's case was the first

to be granted a fresh inquest. But whether more will follow

remains to be seen. Clive, tell us how we got here

legally in terms of this inquest, how did we get here? Well, it was,

as you heard there, this has been a long, 21-year fight by the parents

of Cheryl James to get the evidence surrounding the circumstances of her

death heard in a public forum, properly scrutinised in a public

forum and today we will hear the conclusions of the coroner as to

what he has made, having had all that publicly aired and publicly

scrutinised. You heard that there have been a number of police

investigations, there's been a review by a senior QC. But this has

been a long inquest, it's been going since February. It's heard from well

over 100 witnesses. Today we will get the conclusions and the critical

question is whether Cheryl James took her own life, whether it was a

suicide, or whether, as has been left open to the coroner by the

lawyer acting on behalf of Cheryl James' family, whether she was shot

by a third party. At the heart of this is the forensic evidence

because the majority of forensic experts have concluded that this was

a close contact, self-inflicted shot, but the for instance expert on

behalf of the family has said no, that this was a shot from a third

party and it was a shot from distance. Now the difficulty here is

that because the original investigation by Surrey Police

concluded this was a suicide, none of the forensic evidence, the

critical forensic evidence, was retained. So the forensic experts

have been working from photographs and key to that are what is said to

be soot stains on the hand and face of Cheryl James. The expert for the

family says no, they weren't soot stains, they were mud or another

substance, that's why he says it's open to find this was a shot from

distance by a third party. We will hear about that. We will also hear

much of the detail surrounding the personal circumstances of Cheryl

James, the pressures she was under. We have heard at this inquest that

she was at a base that was described as a sexualised, as morally haywire.

We know she had to choose between two boyfriends, one of whom came and

visited her on the day of her death when she was on guard duty, had a

45-minute conversation with her and then left. There was also an

allegation she had been raped the night before, that was not

corroborated. But we will have some indication from the coroner as to

his findings as to the culture at the base, not a broad culture, it

wasn't a public inquiry, but the culture at the base as it affected

Cheryl James. We are expecting a long narrative verdict from the

coroner, but that should begin around 11.00 am. We will keep you

posted obviously as to what he says and what the conclusions are.

Briefly, what are the potential implications here of the outcome

legally of this inquest? Well, there is no question that these deaths

represent a very dark chapter in the history of the British Army. But the

other three families are pushing for inquests, the parents of Sean

Benetton, one of the soldiers that died, they are dead but his case is

being pursued by relatives. They'll be watching this very closely. Much

will depend on that critical finding of whether this was a suicide, a

self-inflicted death or whether this was a soldier who was shot by

someone else at the base, that will be a very important finding. The

families are pushing, we know that Sean Benton's family will hear later

this year perhaps as to whether they'll get an inquest. Thank you

very much. Here in the studio to discuss

what the findings of today's inquest will mean are Emma Sangster

from Forces Watch and former Army Captain turned

lawyer Patrick Hennessy. Emma, the thing a lot of people will

wonder, is this all historic, is it in the past or is it still a problem

today in the Army? Well, I think that was a very particularly bad

chapter of abuse at training establishments. There was the four

deaths at Deepcut but there was also a number of deaths at Catterick

barracks as well and there was campaigning around that at the time.

But there was no full public inquiry about what really amounts to a

culture of abuse. If that was a bad time, is there any evidence to

suggest that doesn't happen any more or is there concern that maybe

things have not changed so much? I think things have changed to a

degree. We haven't seen young people committing suicide in that way,

although there are still suicides in the Army. There is still a big

problem with bullying, discrimination, harassment in the

armed forces and the figures that the armed forces themselves produce

show that, that quite a large percentage of people still

experience bullying, particularly if they're junior recruits. Still

experience sexual harassment. Patrick, you were a military man,

true that there is a culture of bullying? Did you find that and see

that? I wouldn't say there was a culture of bullying, it's right to

say like any large organisation, especially with large numbers of

young people it's difficult to stamp out completely the pressures that

exist. Clearly what was going on at Deepcut was horrific. And I

certainly don't recognise that from my time. I went under basic training

at Sandhurst in 2004, about two years I think after the last of

these deaths happened and there was a much greater awareness then,

certainly for us, of how you would flag up a problem if you felt you

were being bullied, how you could take issues you had outside the

direct chain. Obviously what you don't feel you can necessarily do is

complain about the person you are reporting up to. I imagine many

people think it's the Army guys, and you want people to be pretty tough

and we are not going to go around mollycoddling you. It's a bruising

environment, isn't there always going to be a degree of tough love,

if I can put it that way? The important phrase is tough love, it's

got to be love. Bruising is an interesting word, that conjures up

an image of physical pressure. I think that's where we understand

there's got to be a line. Culturally, not just in the Army,

things have changed in the last 20 years. If you look at, I am a huge

football fan, if you look at a young footballer joining a big club in the

80s and 90s, you were made to clean boots and do tasks and feel at the

bottom of the ladder. A 17-year-old footballer now is treated like a

God. I think the Army recognises there are recruits, raw material,

they're a precious resource. Yes, you have to put the right amount of

pressure, because you have to prepare young men and women for the

pressures they'll find on operations. You can't break them. To

do so would be hugely counterproductive. We have matured

in that sense. Emma, I suppose the Army obviously a hierarchical

organisation, and you have superiors, the pressure to keep

quiet and not to complain I imagine is immense? Yes, I think so. This is

the problem. You have individuals who often are very young, could be

coming from a vulnerable place. Partly because of this they are so

young, but they are within a massive institution. From our perspective it

doesn't really matter how many safeguards you may put in place to

try and limit bullying, there's still a problem of how young people,

maybe 16, 17, can cope within that kind of institution with all the

pressures that they need to conform to, obey orders, the rigorous

training and from our perspective we shouldn't actually be recruiting

people at that age into institutions which have such a rigorous demand.

Patrick, is there any scope for having some external body which

soldiers can complain to or that breach the integrity and unity of

the regiment and that thing? I think they do. There is now an armed

forces ombudsman who is a civilian and exists outside that structure

who complaints can be taken to and bodies which assess, made up of

people no longer within the Army, made up of retired officers and

soldiers, I think that does exist and I think it's been a step

forward. Thank you both very much. Football has long been used as a way

to stop kids getting But a team from West London are now

using football as a way to prevent Tuff FC's methods of coaching

and mentoring have been so successful Barack Obama has

invited them to the White House. And this week the team travelled

to Molenbeek in Brussels to play football, and talk

about ways to counteract She acts as a mentor to a football

team called Tuff FC, several of whom have been

in contact with extremists. It all started with the curiosity

and the fact that they weren't sure where they belonged,

and that sense of acceptance wasn't something they found

where they were living. We kind of found out about these

things, due to a sense of trust that was built between us

and the kids. The kids kind of came up to us,

some of them, and spoke to us about what was happening,

and their curiosities, whether they had been

contacted yet or not. Some of them were curious

and wanted answers on a taboo subject they could not talk

about in schools. But for many, the lure

of football has proved stronger When they recruit young people,

they make it look like a family, kind of what we're doing

as a counterract. You are welcome here,

using words like sister, In a sense, it is like saying

we are uniting against the West. But at the same time,

I don't see it as a gang, I see it as a group of people

who have strong extreme ideologies that change the way Islam

is being portrayed in the world. And football is a form

of radicalisation. If you are Chelsea fan,

you will be a die-hard Chelsea fan. You won't look at the person

next to being Jewish, or Christian, or Hindu,

or Muslim, all you know is they are Chelsea fan

and you will be bonding with them. What tends to happen is,

when you have a child who is in the throes of going to Syria,

what we experience is, when we put football in front

of them, or you put their football club in front of them,

they have had a hard decision We had a choice, where we gave

a choice to one of the kids, on the left-hand side

you have the gates of Heathrow Airport taking

you to Turkey or Syria, or on the right-hand

side, you have the gates of Stamford Bridge and Jose Mourinho

holding his hand out, She said, ten seconds,

"I want Mourinho." Umra and the team travel

to Molenbeek in Brussels, a suburb synonymous with last

year's Paris attacks. At least three of the men

involved lived here. And, as in west London,

while football is a dominant force, TRANSLATION: When I was about 16

years old, I was approached by a person who tried

to radicalise me, but at the time, I am a practising Muslim,

and I know that this is not something that is allowed

by my faith, and it is a complete nonsense to go and kill

in the name of Allah. Actually, in everywhere you have

extremism, but here I am talking for the sport,

our Academy and our club. That is why we keep the youngsters

coming to the football stadium or the other sport,

and don't let them in the street, because they can deal

with the extremism. Here in the club, for the moment,

we don't have that problem. For Tuff FC, the trip was about

football and sharing experiences. Do you like living

here in Molenbeek? Life is not like they described it

in the press, actually. It is much nicer

than you would think. The team have also been

invited by President Obama to the White House, spreading

the message further afield. More than 13,000 foreign criminals

are awaiting deportation from the UK, we will have the details from

the home affairs Select Committee which produced that report.

And, the Prime Minister faces tough questioning over immigration in the

first EUTV debate. We will hear from a Ukip MEP and why he is voting to

leave the EU. David Cameron has said the UK can

control immigration even if it The Prime Minister was speaking

at his first major TV event of the referendum campaign,

during which he was accused The PM claimed it would be madness

to try to manage the levels of migration after leaving

the single market. A group of MPs has warned

that the public will question the point of remaining

in the European Union if the Government can't deport

criminals from other EU countries. The Home Affairs Committee said

Poland, Ireland and Romania The Home Office said three times

more European criminals were being removed compared

to five years ago. The verdict on a new inquest

into the death of a soldier found shot at Deepcut barracks in Surrey

will be delivered today. Private Cheryl James was one

of four young recruits who died at the barracks

between 1995 and 2002. The inquest, which is the second

into her death, began in February and has heard from more

than 100 witnesses. Greek authorities say three bodies

have been recovered and 302 people have been rescued so far

from a sinking boat carrying what they say is a "significant"

number of migrants. A rescue operation is currently

underway in the Mediterranean, It's not yet known where

the boat has come from. Join me for BBC

Newsroom live at 11am. Here's Hugh Ferris again

with the sports headlines. Roy Hodgson's assessment that

England aren't the finished article wouldn't have come as any surprise

to those who watched them labour to a 1-0 win over Portugal

in their final friendly before Chris Smalling with the goal

as they head to France on the back Heather Knight has been named

as the new captain of the England women's cricket team

following the retirement Knight steps up from being the vice

captain for the last two years. Andy Murray will attempt to reach

his first French Open final, but he'll have to beat the reigning

champion to do it. The British number one faces

Stan Wawrinka in the semi-finals And, 8.31 metres seems to be

a favourite distance It got him gold at London

2012 and also a victory in the Diamond League event

in Rome last night. It's also his longest

jump of the season. A British man is facing multiple

life sentences for numerous sex crimes against children in Malaysia,

which he boasted Richard Huckle from Ashford in Kent

admitted the offences against victims aged between six

months and 12 years, It is believed the 30-year-old

abused up to 200 children. His sentencing hearing began

at the Old Bailey on Wednesday, Let's talk now to Alan Collins,

who leads abuse claims for victims overseas and is from Hugh James

Solicitors. Shocking as this is, are you

surprised by it? Yes. It seemed that this is now one in a

line of a series of cases over recent times where it seems that

abusers are able to travel from the UK to other countries and abuse,

almost, it seems, with impunity, and move from one country to another. It

highlights for me this ability to move around and abuse and also the

growing problem of the Internet in these cases, the ink used to further

the offences, access children, and as an aid to abuse children. It is a

very disturbing case. It is one in a line of cerebral, -- several, but it

highlights the grotesqueness of the problem. He was a teacher, presented

himself as an English-language teacher. If you are a teacher in

this country you are checked and vetted. Does any of that happened?

It is a problem that needs an international solution. You can have

good practice which help to minimise the risk, but if you think about it,

and you listen to victims, there is in the developing world a thirst for

education, a demand to learn English, and so these characters are

able to exploit that. It enables them to exploit the most vulnerable,

who are desperate to get an education. Are there no checks when

they are there? These people are in demand, because English is the

global language, but they have got very young kids, is there no

oversight? It needs an international solution, there needs to be high

standards throughout the world. It should not be so easy for people to

masquerade as teachers or to access children in that way in developing

countries or anywhere else. That is a Laguna in the system, and it

needs, in my opinion, an international solution, so there is

an international standard, so nobody can say, wherever they are, I am a

teacher, therefore I can go and teach. There needs to be rigorous

checks, no matter which country it is. Let's talk about the other side,

the children. What happens to them? What support they give them, can

they sue for compensation? For many of them, justice is going to be an

elusive. Many will be dependent on charity for ongoing care and

support. A lot of good work is done, but it is patchy and it varies from

country to country. Many will not have access to any form of justice,

whether it is from normal or civil law. Because of their particular

cases, some may be able to bring cases in the UK or elsewhere. A lot

depends on particular circumstances and who is there on the ground to

provide support. Action is possible, but it is hit and miss and it varies

enormously. More than 13,000 foreign

criminals are awaiting deportation from the UK,

including thousands of European citizens, according to a report

by a group of influencial MPs. The Home Affairs Select Committee

said the figure was the equivalent to a "small town" and would lead

people to "question the point" The numbers represent

foreign-national offenders currently in the UK,

both in detention and living It is a shocking tale. It is, the

committee has been banging on about this for a number of years. It has

been ongoing under successive governments. The rumour that the

Charles Clarke issue, thousands were let out before being considered for

deportation, but we have 9800 foreign national offenders in our

prisons representing 11% of the prison population are costing the

taxpayer 40,000 a year to keep them in prison. Then you have the 5700

who are out of prison in the community, and the Government has

not removed them. Is it lack of resources to boot them out, is it a

reluctance on the part of other countries to take them? What is the

logjam to boot them out? There is a lot of political will, there is a

passion to see them out. The Prime Minister said he wanted them out as

quickly as possible. The Home Secretary is working hard to make

sure it happens. It took her two years with Abu Qatada, I thought she

would pilot the plane to get him out. It seems to be a problem with

EU countries. We need to bang the table more with Poland and Romania

and Lithuania, tell the Commonwealth countries, there are four of them

represented in the top ten... We are a big player in the EEG, the

Commonwealth, obviously, we have leveraged. Why can we not get

countries like Poland and other Commonwealth countries to get these

commercials back? It is a question you have to put to the Home

Secretary and the Government. I support staying in. The case being

made by the Prime Minister is solid, but if those leaders of the EU like

Angela Merkel and Donald Tusk want us to stay in, one of the things

they can do is to announce that their citizens will return to their

countries. It will help us in our campaign, because I want to remain

in, and we have to if we are going to deal with removing these people

to EU countries. As far as the Commonwealth is concerned, when the

Prime Minister needs the Prime Minister of India, Pakistan,

Nigeria, that needs to be the first thing on the agenda. They are

reluctant to take back their citizens, we need to remind them of

their responsibilities. Why should we pay for foreign national

offenders who come into our country, commit offences, are sentenced

because of serious crimes, murder, rape, burglary, and then stay at our

expense? We need to get them out. An African-American movie producer

who clashed with the actor Matt Damon over the lack

of diversity within the industry is here in London to encourage

ethnic minority film-makers. Damon publicly apologised

for downplaying the importance of diversity while judging the HBO

reality show Project Greenlight, which gives first-time directors

the chance to make a movie. The incident took place before

the Oscars race row. They were discussing choosing

a director for a film where the only I would want to urge people to think

about whoever this director is, the way they are going to treat the

character of harmony. With her being a prostitute, the only black person

being a hooker. On the surface, they look like one thing, but they might

end up giving us something we don't want. We were talking about

diversity, you do it in the casting of the film, not in the casting of

the show. Wow! She's on the panel with

the British Film Institute at the Sundance Film Festival

London. And she recently produced

the award-winning satire Here's a short clip

from the trailer. You are listening to Winchester

University's only college radio station. The white people. The

minimum requirement of black friends needed to not see racist has just

been raised to two. Sorry, but your weed man does not count. The white

people, please stop touching my hair. Does this look like a petting

zoo? Tell me a bit more about what you

are doing in London. I am here on behalf of Sundance London and BFI to

talk about inclusion. And the usefulness of diversity in film and

television. We know the row over the Oscars, but from your perspective,

it is not those in front of the camera where there is an issue, it

is behind the camera as well? It is so interesting, I love to use the

word inclusion a bit more, because diversity sometimes has a

connotation of taking something from someone. But inclusiveness means,

come on, everybody said share. It is a problem in front of as well as

behind the camera. If we are more included, people of colour and

women, it makes for a better product and better business. Did you think

Hollywood is basically racist? That is a very good question. Since I

want to work still, I will say no. I will say that Hollywood is

probably... It has been done the same way for a very long time. Now

that we are seeing with the way that demographics are changing, we have

become more of a global society, more people are included, more

people that might not look like you, but might look like me, we want to

see our stories as well. I presume the whole Oscar row is a massive

deterrent to black people and others getting involved in the industry.

That is interesting. I will respectively disagree. Doing the

show, one of the main reasons for me to do that was to show that there

are quality crewmembers and stories behind as well as in front of the

camera that can be told, and there are people that want to participate.

We can do the job and we want to, we want to be storytellers, see our

stories on screen. I am grateful and very happy to be a member of the

Academy. I got in a year ago. We are part of a programme which is going

to actually revamp the membership rules, so we can reflect more of

what people... What America really looks like. Some of the comments,

you know them already, from the likes of formidable actors like

Charlotte Rampling, they say the problem is there are not that many

great black actors. That is untrue. I believe she apologised for that,

and it came out a little insensitively. I love her, so I will

give her a pass on that! There" if you brilliant actors of colour. The

world is much bigger than black and white. We need to recognise that. A

lot of the actors and actresses of colour, as well as directors, and

producers, they don't get the opportunity, because Hollywood... I