23/08/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling

covering for Victoria, welcome to the programme.

Heading back to Britain - Team GB's triumphant athletes

are in the air on their way to Heathrow carrying extra weight

This is the spot where we are due to arrive in the next hour. We're front

of the queue to say well done and welcome back. I'm in the

international arrivals hall inside their report where friends and

family are waiting for the flight to land and where they can greet their

loved ones. We'll have full coverage

as they touch down at Heathrow and we're joined by some of our most

successful former Olympians, to reflect on the games and tell us

what lies ahead for those returning. Also on today's programme -

Why are women still earning less We'll have the latest

on the gender pay divide. Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11 this morning. There was a special welcome for Team

GB. With a heroes' welcome

and the promise of honours for many, Team GB will be left in no doubt how

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Team GB's record-breaking Olympians will return from Rio -

arriving at Heathrow fresh from the country's best

ever overseas games. Their 67 medals - two more

than at London 2012 - makes Great Britain the first

country ever to increase its medal More than 300 athletes and staff

are currently in the air on board a specially-designed plane

with a gold nose cone, From start to finish, the golden

moments came one after another. Rio was Team GB's most successful

Olympic Games of modern times. To bring back the sporting

champions, a specially chartered flight - BA 2016 with its golden

nose cone, and specially Of course, even Olympic

medallists have to show their boarding card and passport,

but there was still time "Bling on a plane,"

tweeted Heather Glover. And Kate Richardson-Walsh declaring,

"the hockey girls But when you have a plane full

of VIPs, who gets This photo from triple Olympian

champion rower Pete Reed On board the flight, extra

champagne, 77 bottles in total. Enough for the 320 athletes

and support staff in Plenty of luggage as well

with all of their kit, the biggest item a sail

of 6.7 metres. Spare a thought for those staffing

the metal detectors, with Team GB bringing home 67

medals, including 27 gold. Their success will be celebrated

with parades in London With us now is Dan Johnson who's

airside at Heathrow airport - waiting for Team GB's record

breaking athletes to return. It was running late, there was

congestion at the airport, so many people leaving the airport, this

plane has caught up time on the journey and we are assured that it

will pull up here at the stand on time. The street sweeper cleaning

the tarmac, and the streets that they will use to come down on to

British territory. We should see them emerging from the plane,

getting a warm welcome from the press pack. They are ready to

welcome everybody back. We understand there will be people

waiting to receive them. They've had plenty of opportunity to enjoy

themselves. Extra champagne loaded, and chariots of Fire on the movie

screens. It looks like they've had great fun on the journey back to

Great Britain. Women who have children can be paid

up to a third less than men New research by the think tank

the Institute for Fiscal Studies found that while the gender pay gap

in general has been falling in recent years,

mums who take time out, or work fewer hours miss out

significantly on wage increases. Our Employment Correspndent John

Moylan has more. They do the same jobs,

but for decades, men have been paid But with more women in work

than ever before, it is becoming increasingly important to understand

why that pay gap exists. The hourly wage gap between men

and women is about 18%. But for mothers, that

gap grows steadily. It is 10% before the arrival

of the first child, and then soaring to 33% by the time that child

is 12 years old. One of the key areas to look

at is what happens when women They find wage

progression shuts down. That could be because they are

genuinely not gathering skills and experience that employers value

in today's jobs. It could have to do

with discrimination or power bosses are exercising over women,

holding down their wages. The Government says it's pushing

ahead with plans to force businesses to publish that gap,

shining a light on what is stopping But unions are saying

that it is a scandal and many still suffer a pay penalty just

for becoming a mother. Women taking combined

hormone replacement therapy could see their risk of developing

breast cancer triple, Around one in 10 women use HRT

while in their 50s. But in the largest study

of its kind, data from almost 40,000 menopausal women suggested the link

between the medication and the disease may

have been underestimated. This study analysed data from 40,000

women over six years. It suggests that women taking

a certain type of hormone replacement therapy,

or HRT, could be almost three times more likely to develop cancer

than those not taking it. While there has been previous

research linking HRT to breast and ovarian cancer,

this study, published in the British Journal of Cancer,

suggests the risks of getting breast cancer may be greater

than previously thought, with those taking combined HRT

being 2.7 times more That risk rises for those taking it

for more than 15 years The research to date does show

that we have been underestimating the breast cancer risk

caused by combination HRT. So if you are worried about this,

it is important to talk to your GP so you can weigh up your own risks

and the benefits of taking HRT. The research suggests there is not

an increased risk for those Experts say hormone replacement

therapy works very well for millions of women, and taking

it is a personal choice. Those taking it are advised to make

sure they discuss it A confidential report written

by the Department of Health questions whether the NHS has enough

staff to deliver the seven day a week service

promised by ministers. The leaked document -

seen by The Guardian newspaper and Channel 4 News -

echoes concerns expressed The government says the review sets

out a worst case scenario to help it develop robust plans

and that its committed to ending the current variation in care

standards across the week. England recycles 11 million tonnes

of waste a year but a freedom of information request for the BBC

has revealed that of that more That's an 84-per-cent

rise across four years. Almost all of what's rejected ends

up at landfill or being incinerated. With four mouths to feed, mealtime

in the MacGowan house is always busy. Even so, Becky still tried to

do the right thing with recycling. I do try and do my bit. So do most

people but it is not always easy. We argue about certain things and it is

quite exciting. I favour the blue button whereas Becky will chuck it

into the black. The amount recycled in England has gone up marginally,

but how much gets rejected has risen by 84%. Using Freedom of Information

laws, we asked the government what happens to the recycling. It is

quite easy to contaminate recycling. Quite a bit of this does not have

any place in recycling. This should not be there. This wrapping for

fruit, nappies, of people put them in recycling, textiles should not be

there. This can be there. This is one of the biggest problems, the

milk carton can be recycled. When all this gets crushed, this can go

over everything and contaminated. Why is there a rise in contamination

rates? It was summed up by the former environment minister. We have

300 different types of recycling system.

This makes it unlikely that unwanted material will creep into the system.

Hull says their problem is costing hundreds of thousands of pounds to

sort out. They are starting that. You need to inform them and motivate

them and it is not enough to send out leaflets that give that

motivation, you've got to think about it. They need to be moored

diligent. We were told tremendous progress has been made but they

admit more needs to be done. This has never been more important. An

oil rig that ran aground in the Outer Hebrides has been refloated.

It was blown assurer whilst it was being towed. Late last night it was

pulled from rocks on the Isle of Lewis and is being moved to calm

waters, where the condition is being assessed. BBC News has learned that

a controversial cull badgers is to be extended into five new areas.

Aimed at controlling the spread of TB in cattle, the move

But animal rights campaigners argue culling is inhumane and ineffective.

That is a summary of the latest BBC News. Let's catch up with the sport

and we are looking for red to that plane touching down at Heathrow in

45 minutes. Who is on board? There are a lot of athletes on board. Some

of the main aims, Nicola Adams, Helen Glover, Heather standing, they

successfully defended their title. Plenty of extra weight on board. 77

extra bottles of champagne. They've been celebrating. We've seen some of

their pictures already. Just over 11 hours. There might be some tired

faces. Some of the big medal winners are already home. Laura Trott and

Jason Kenny already home. What did the British Olympic Association have

to say about this? They've received a lot of praise. It is their most

successful Olympic Games for over 100 years. Bill Sweeney is the chief

executive of the association and we spoke to him just before it the

games. He put it down to two decades of hard work and investment in

British sport. It is reported that each medal and bubbly cost about

?4.1 million though it has led to a fifth consecutive games where the

number of medals has increased. We will be at Heathrow. You want with

this -- you will not miss a minute. Other news emerging, what has

happened to the American swimmer Ryan Lochte. He is now suffering

from sponsorship deals ebbing away as a result of what he did.

Yes, he admitted he made a mistake, he lost all four of his major

sponsors, including speedo USA and Ralph Lauren, after what he called

an exaggerated story about being robbed at gunpoint at a petrol

station in Rio alongside three of his fellow USA swim team team-mates.

The US Olympic Committee have apologised, Ryan Lochte said he was

immature and made a mistake, but it was hugely embarrassing for the host

city. Interestingly, he insists he did not lie but have incurred the

wrath of his sponsors and the American public as well, so not a

great month for him even though he has returned with a gold medal. One

story away from the Olympics, Sam Allardyce has hinted at a possible

return for John Terry to the England side, is he serious? It remains to

be seen how serious he is. He thinks it could be worth a

conversation to establish exactly why Terry ended his England career.

England's former captain retired from international duty in 2012. Roy

Hodgson admitted he had never really been replaced, Hodgson used a number

of central defenders over his time but never really reached a settled

back four. Sam Allardyce will look to address the problem now he has

taken over. Terry, 35 years old, has vast experience, it would be huge to

recall the Chelsea captain. Allardyce will name his squad for

next month's World Cup qualifier on Sunday, it is unlikely Terry will be

involved, Joe Hart will be but it remains to be seen how serious he is

about bringing John Terry back. Thank you, more from you later, we

are looking out for the plane bringing home our Olympic stars, the

plane due to touch down in about 25 minutes or so, weighed down by more

medals than Team GB have ever won before at and away games. 67 medals,

two more than London 2012, a total of 130 medallists across 19 sports.

Some of them have already arrived back in Britain, but 320 athlete and

support staff will be on the flight touching down in about 40 minutes.

That is the flight Tracker so we can see it is almost home. We think

everything is going to schedule now, it was delayed on take-off by around

20 minutes or so but it seems they have made up the time in the air.

Waiting to welcome them, families, friends and fans. We are live at

Heathrow Airport through the morning.

Dan Johnson is airside at Heathrow airport.

Daniella Relph is in the arrivals hall with the welcoming committee,

We have just heard it might land a little bit early, everything going

well, everybody enjoying themselves on board from what we have seen of

the pictures but on social media by some of the athletes and Team GB. It

looks like they are having a good time on that flight. Who could blame

them? A lot to celebrate, and a lot of champagne to celebrate with, as

well as some nice meals laid on by British Airways on this special 747

which has had its nose cone painted gold, the flight number 2016, it

should be landing just before 10am and we will see our Olympians

stepping down onto the tarmac here at Heathrow, being welcomed back to

Great Britain with their amazing medal haul. It has been such a great

games. Mark Foster is with me. You were over there, how good was it? It

looked enjoyable. It was amazing, I was only there for the first week

when the swimming was on, but I was lucky to be in one of the most

packed arenas, Brazilians are knowledgeable about swimming, they

have a history in it, and the atmosphere was amazing. When Michael

Phelps stood up, it was like nothing I have heard before. The

performances in the pool, Adam Peaty with his gold medal, we had lots to

talk about, so it was an easy job for me talking about our

performances rather than everybody else's, and Rio as a whole, the

atmosphere was one double, a carnival atmosphere, the energy of

the city was amazing. Unfortunate that some of the facilities were not

as busy as the swimming but my world was great. What is it like coming

home, does it give you a greater appreciation of the support there

has been, are you aware of it when you are out there? You are not at

all, it is like being in an Olympic bubble. It is not your reality until

you step back into it. For those guys, they have been over there with

their own personal goals, each sport has had its goal, Team GB had its

goal, they have exceeded those, some individuals may be did not get what

they wanted but others have blown themselves away. Until you come back

and see friends and family, a lot of them will have media commitments not

just today, to see the present everything else, all the attention

you will get, some of them will have a lot on, others will want to get

back, maybe go and have a holiday, because it is about to four-year

period to the next Olympics, people will reassess themselves, and

everyone just wants to progress. But the ones that have done well, milk

it, enjoy the moment, then say, OK, let's get back on with my day job.

Without performances, they don't get this. It will be a big change for

some people, some Olympians who were perhaps not known beforehand, now

coming back as multiple medal winners, some of them, they will be

superstars. How much of a shock is that? You go from zero to hero and

there is a lot of expectation, these people do what they do because they

love it, it is their job, their dream, they always wanted to become

Olympic champion and when you do there is a responsibility that goes

with that. You go from being the hunter to the hunted within your

sport, there is a target on your back, and expectation, pressure that

goes along with that. But for a lot of them they will come back in now,

step back into UK soil and it will be life back to normal, as it were.

It is getting back to your own reality again, seeing your friends

and family and realising, Jason Kenny and Laura Trott, they are

superstars but they are also Jason and Laura, they go back home again,

have their normal life again. It is finding your feet again as well as

being a superstar, that is the blend of the mix they have to think about.

Thank you very much, Mark. Before they get back to normal life there

are some jobs to conclude you, a press conference, a bit more talking

about the success they have had, and a chance to enjoy it, as well. Dan,

thank you. Let's go to Daniela Ralph in the arrivals hall with the

welcoming committee, including Barbara Bourse, the mum of hockey

captain Kate Richardson-Walsh. We spoke to her yesterday. Over to

you. -- Barbara Walsh. We have had a quick check on the arrivals board,

flight BA 2016 from reared Junior expected at 0948, just before ten to

ten. It seems to have caught up with delayed. Barbara Walsh, mum to Kate

Richardson-Walsh, is here. How are you feeling? I know you were in Riga

but it must be exciting to see her back at home? So excited,

absolutely. I think my face muscles are aching. I haven't stopped

smiling since Friday! An amazing experience and to find she was

carrying the flag at the closing ceremony was the icing on the cake

for a wonderful career. It is great. How do you think she will feel

coming back with that medal? I think she will feel it has been a

fantastic journey. She will probably reflect and think, bronze in 2012,

they really wanted to win the gold on home soil, but I think she will

be absolutely delighted that this is the end of a wonderful career and I

think she will be... I don't think she will stop smiling. Do you think

she will be emotional? I'm sure she will be very emotional, there were

some pictures captured off her when she went on to the podium, she could

not hold back tears, she was crying at the very end of the game. She

looked for me in the crowd and I waved, she had tears in her eyes,

and I'm sure she will be the same this morning when she comes through.

It is just amazing. How do you think she will cope with life after

hockey? This will be a different life moving forward, the Olympics

are done, she will stop playing, how do you think she will cope? I think

it will be difficult, when you follow a very strict regime, and she

and Helen have followed exactly, they are role models in that respect

in that they followed the regime, it will be difficult. They will not

stop playing hockey, they will go over to Holland to play,

International is a different kettle of fish, Kate wants to go into

coaching. I suppose it is one regime finishes and another one starts. It

will be hard to adapt, I think. The other thing she will have to cope

with is the fact that women's hockey is now front and centre. The game

was in prime time on the TV, it has got a new state as it did not have

before the Olympics, and she, in many ways, is the frontwoman for

that. How do you think she will deal with the attention she will receive

in the coming weeks? One of the things I'm so proud of, she is good

in front of camera and one of the things they

wanted to do as a team is inspire the next generation and absolutely

they have done that, they have inspired a lot of people already.

I'm sure Kate will be determined to get more people not just into hockey

but sport in general. She has always said, fulfil your dreams, and she

will be encouraging people not only to go into hockey but sport in

general to keep fit. And what about the family's plans? I know you were

in Rio and have been here there and everywhere since then, but what

happens when she comes back? She has got lots of media to fulfil but we

will try to have our own family party at some time, but we are just

delighted to have her back, have that gold model, just great to give

her a hug. Thanks for joining us here at Heathrow. Barbara will be

one of many friends and family who will be here in the arrivals fall at

Heathrow to cede those Olympians coming through sometime after 10am

this morning. We look forward to that, thank you very much. Say hello

to bribe for us, we spoke to her yesterday. -- to Barbara.

So what happens once you get off that plane with your medal?

How long before it actually sinks in and before the work

In the studio are a group of people who know exactly

what it's like to bring back the silver and gold!

Sally Gunnell, the former track and field athlete who won the 1992

Olympic gold medal in the 400m, hurdles is here.

Etienne Stott, who won gold in the canoe slalom in London 2012,

Also in the studio are, former Olympic rower Alex Partridge,

who won Bronze at the London 2012 Olympics.

Marlon Devonish, the 4x100m relay Olympic champion,

And Jo Pavey, who competed in her fifth Olympics this year.

Thank you for joining us. Jo, you were supposed to be on that flight

but left early to get back for your kids? Yes, I missed out on the

champagne but I have managed to have some red wine! You have all had that

experience of winning medals and making your country proud. How do

you think they will be feeling this morning? Never mind the alcohol,

they will have a bit of a headache! They will have to be careful,

presumably they have been teetotal with their training for some time!

Some of them probably will still be because they have not finished their

seasons yet. But some of them might be a bit jolly, deservedly! Knowing

they will step off the flight to a nation awaiting them with huge pride

at what they have achieved... I always remember back in Barcelona,

Linford Christie said to me, where would you be sitting on the plane on

the way home? At the front with 's medallists or at the back with

everybody else? That is what it is, really. I remember thinking, I'm not

going to let him have his own way! It is amazing to be able to come

down those steps and have everybody there waiting for you. There were

only five of us in 92 so it was a special moment. I would say to them

all, take it all in, because sometimes I look back and think, did

I really enjoy it? It is such a world that you are not used to, you

are thrown into it and I'm not sure I really appreciated it. I would say

to them, take it all in and enjoy these next few weeks and months.

Social media changes it as well in that they are so engaged in social

media, putting out pictures, clearly enjoying that element topic as well?

It plays a big part because everybody feels part of that and can

share it. And also that whole thing about, you don't know what is going

on at home, you are in your own little bubble out there and don't

realise how big it has been here, so for a lot of them it will be a shock

and you get dragged in all directions in the next few weeks. I

remember thinking, which hotel room and I in, I have forgotten the

number, or the sort of things, it is amazing. It took me a good two or

three months for it to sink in, what you have done, it doesn't happen

straightaway. It is only when you get back into your own real life and

routine of going out and doing it again that you start to reflect on

what you have achieved. Was it like that for you, Alex? The most

immediate thing that strikes me, when you cross the finish line, it

is something you have been building towards the 12 years in some cases

and suddenly there is that, oh, what happens next? There is visible

reading your life, and you get caught up in this fanfare -- there

is a void in your life. Those two or three months, after that, what

happens next? If you are carrying on it is easy but if you are retiring,

that is the tricky part, and I know for the last four years up to now

that was a very difficult journey post-London. You are staying with us

as we wait for the plane to arrive so we will have a lot more chat. If

you have any questions or want to send your thoughts on the team

coming back, do get in touch in the usual ways.

Coming up, worrying news about women going through the menopause.

There is a suggestion that using HRT can treble the risk of breast

cancer. Women still earn a lot less than men

for doing the same work, and that pay gap increases

when they have children. We'll be discussing

that around 10.30am. Let me know your thoughts. Let's

look at the rest of the day's news. In the next 20 minutes, Great

Britain's record-breaking Olympians will touch down in London on a

specially chartered flight from Rio de Janiero. The 67 medals they

achieved means Team GB recorded the best ever Olympic performance. New

research suggests the gender pay gap in general has been falling but

mothers who take time out or work fewer hours miss out significantly

on wage increases. Women taking combined

hormone replacement therapy could see their risk of developing

breast cancer triple, Around one in 10 women use HRT

while in their 50s. But in the largest study

of its kind, data from almost 40,000 menopausal women suggested the link

between the medication and the disease may

have been underestimated. A confidential report written

by the Department of Health questions whether the NHS has enough

staff to deliver the seven day a week service

promised by ministers. The leaked document -

seen by The Guardian newspaper and Channel 4 News -

echoes concerns expressed The government says the review sets

out a worst case scenario to help it develop robust plans and that

it's committed to ending the current variation in care

standards across the week. A huge oil rig that ran aground in

the Outer Hebrides has been refloated. It was blown assurer in

bad weather whilst it was being towed two weeks ago. Late last

night, it was pulled from rocks on the West Coast of the Isle of Lewis

and is being moved to calmer waters. BBC News has learnt that

a controversial cull of badgers in England is to be extended

into five new areas. Aimed at controlling the spread

of TB in cattle, the move But animal rights campaigners argue

culling is inhumane and ineffective. That's the latest news. Now the

sport. Good morning. Russia will find out today whether the athletes

will be allowed to compete in next month's Paralympics. They've

appealed the decision to impose a blanket ban. The American swimmer

Ryan Lochte has been dropped by all four of his major sponsors after

making up a claim that he had been robbed at gunpoint in the real

Olympics -- Rio de Janiero Olympics. Speedo and Ralph Lauren have ended

their agreement. Sam Allardyce says it might be worth a conversation

with John Terry to see why he retired. He's never really been

successfully replaced at centre rack. Chris Froome is up to third in

the Tour of Spain, 11 seconds behind the leader. He is bidding to become

the first man since 1978 to win this and the France -- Tour de France.

I'm just hearing the plane is over Epsom in Surrey. Let's take a look

at the flight Tracker. If you are in Guildford, you can look up at it. It

is going to touch down at Heathrow at nine -- 9:50am. They've been

sending out a lot of stuff on social media as they celebrate the

triumphant performance. Joe Joyce took the opportunity to get a quick

selfie before getting on the plane. The team have been making the most

of the flight home. Cockpit selfies were clearly popular. Here is

another one. They decided to make the most of their journey home,

pausing for this picture with a well earned glass of fizz. The athletes

are clearly delighted with their success. This was a display of

medals, and when you see pictures like this one, you can really

appreciate what an amazing games it has been. Let's talk about our group

of elite athletes with previous medal winners in the studio. I can

remember back in Athens, being able to set in upper-class, it was one of

the most amazing experiences. We could have both sides of the coin,

being very successful. Who decides the seating? I do not know. What are

your memories? Because I was in London we did not get the flight

home. It was just really nice to know that you don't realise exactly

how it has been taken. Until you sure you're medal to someone for the

first time you don't realise how much it means to them. Even when you

were in London? You could feel, when you go home, it creates a massive

excitement. Those newly crowned Olympic medallists will scarcely

believe what happens. I imagine people want to talk about it for a

very long time. It is, your whole life changes overnight. People were

appearing in my windows at home and watching what I put in my shopping

trolley and all those sorts of things. It must be so weird. The

life of an athlete prior to that moment is obviously a hard one. You

are in your lawn Bible training and everybody wants to know who you are

getting married to and all these sorts of things. You miss everybody

when you get home. You've had this camaraderie being with everyone, you

get back to your house and you're on your own and I remember missing

everybody like mad. You've lived every moment with these guys and

every emotion and you miss it really. Is there a point where the

games happen again and you think you would love to be there again? Yes,

it was very real for me, I have ridden with these guys since I was

19 years old and there is absolutely a wish that I could be there but we

need to recognise. A lot of people on that plane will probably be

thinking about that. It is interesting thinking about that,

whether you turned left right on the and I sat next to Jason Day Gail who

have just one gold. This time, where they going to put everyone? You have

come back early because of your kids. This was your fifth Olympics.

You've got a pretty unique perspective on how this has been

impaired to the others. There were so many reports in the media about

this, but it has been wonderful, there is great camaraderie within

the camp, the village is absolutely lovely, it had played in there, but

it was a great experience. We had a funny moment where I went to the

training track, the driver had absolutely no idea where it was.

Fortunately, we found a way but if I'd been on my own we would not have

got there but with the social and economic problems, it was a real

carnival atmosphere. It was a great games and I certainly enjoyed the

experience and tried to soak up every minute of it. We were seeing

pictures of the helicopter over at Heathrow. That's where the flight is

due to touch down in five minutes. I think they will be whisked through

pretty quickly. That is where the planes will pull up and we will get

a good picture of the athletes. You won't miss a thing. There is the

plane, that the radar, it is over at Dulwich. Here you can see the River

Thames. You've got a good idea of where the planers. Not far before it

touches down at Heathrow. What did you think about Rio de Janiero? What

if you think of the spectacle? Completely different to London. What

they did with the money and the finances they had is spectacular, it

was more on hope and passion. What they did was fantastic and amazing.

What about the athletes? The pole vault, I forget his name, what he

achieved is testament. He was 11 centimetres less when he went into

the Olympics than winning it. So he exceeded himself massively, so the

French guy who was supposed to when, he smashed it out the park with an

amazing performance. What happens with something like that because

obviously you train and Jane and viewed or what you are capable of.

Hang on, you can see the golden nose cone glittering in the sunshine.

Didn't it perfect? That is a perfect day in London for this flight to

arrive back. I think Dan can hear us. We are seeing the first pictures

as the plane heads for Heathrow in the next few minutes, it will be

touching down where you are. Not sure if he can hear us. That point,

when someone pulls an extra special performance out of the bag, what is

it when you go to the Olympics, I suppose everybody needs to reach as

deep as they can? Yes, often it goes standard and where you are a leading

into it but you get to an Olympics and anything can happen and I don't

know whether it is because it is the pinnacle, because it is every four

years, it is always winners you've never heard of before, should not

have won the medal, there they are, that is what is so great about the

Olympics is that you really don't know and you could be favourite on

paper like in the pole vault, then it does not happen. You often see

people don't get through qualifying as you've got these brand-new stars

that you've never heard of before that have been made, so it is very

special. Let's talk to down at Heathrow, the

plane is coming in. Can you hear us? I just heard Dan Johnson. Dan, can

you hear us? We are hoping to hear from you at Heathrow as the plane

comes in. The plane is about to touch down

now, bringing back our Olympians from Rio, and 11.5 hour journey,

they are just about to complete that with this touch down here at

Heathrow. A great buzz about this stand here, we are at gate 531 where

the 747 will pull up and arrive. There is a huge press Pack here this

morning waiting to meet them as that plane coming in to land now, about

320 of our Olympians and Team GB support staff on that plane with all

their luggage and belongings, and of course those medals they are

bringing back, too. Not everybody on that flight, some of them will have

come back early because they can be did earlier in the games and have

finished. But many of them having waited for that flight back, it left

Rio last night, a little bit late, but it is here at Heathrow bang on

time. It has got a bit of the journey to do around the airport

runways and taxiways, it is going to show off a little bit, I think,

because British Airways have gone to some effort here, painting the nose

of the plane in gold, giving it its own flight number BA2016, so they

will give everybody a chance to see it as it does a lap of honour around

Heathrow Airport before it pulls up here to the gate. The pictures from

on-board have been really good fun, all our Olympians look like they

have had a really great fightback, they have been posting on social

media, lots of photographs of them enjoying the hospitality on board

which have been laid on by British Airways. Special catering, we know

that extra champagne was loaded on, 77 bottles, apparently.

Does not sound much for 320 people! Interesting to see how they make it

down the steps once the plane does Paul appear! But it has got a little

bit of the journey to do off the runway onto the taxiways here. Let

me bring in Mark Foster. Where do you put the Rio games? There was a

lot of expectation among the British support after such a great games in

London. Rio, I don't think many people thought would live up to

that. It has in mental terms, at least. How do you think that has

been achieved, how much of a surprise was that? -- in medal

terms. It was a surprise, every host nation after they have the Olympic

Games, the one after has fewer medals, and for us we were more, by

a couple, but the goals were slightly less, it is astonishing

because the home games have homes abroad, your home environment. The

expectations were not down here, but they were not where they were. I

think the goal was 48 medals, coming back with 67, so exceeded that.

Everyone is constantly looking to progress. In life, athletes are very

good at that, you have to move on... STUDIO: I'm just going to interrupt

you, we want to talk to Pat Driscoll who is on the flight, the trampoline

as to who has been doing video diaries for us. Kat, welcome home!

How has the flight been? It has been incredible. They played the national

anthem before we left, we all got a glass of champagne, it has been an

nice celebration. Everyone is keen to be home, it has been an nice way

to end it. Has it been a lively flight or has

everybody been tired? It has been a long flight and you have been

through quite a lot out there? It has been a bit of a mixture. I am

sitting here with Max Whitlock's coach.

TANNOY ANNOUNCEMENT ON PLANE. Max is first class so we went to see

him and see how the other half lives, it was a bigger celebration

down that end, all of the medallists are down that end.

Tell us more about the celebrations, what everyone has been saying on

board? Everyone has just been, we don't know what has been going on

back home, we don't know how the country has taken to it, so

everybody is unaware of what will happen. We had our closing ceremony

last night and had to go straight from that into travelling home

today, so I think there was quite a lot of partying going on last night,

there was a lot of partying going on then, just having a lot of fun down

the front, and a couple of the team members who have won some medals

were putting on the British Airways uniforms and were serving food and

drinks, which was quite funny. I would love it if you could get up

and about and have a look around the flight but obviously you still have

to stay in your seat for now. Can you use your phone to show us around

a little? Who is that standing up already?!

Welcome home! Who else wants to talk to us? They are getting the

medallists up to the front to get them off first. We don't want to

give too much away. It is planned what will happen from there but I

will let that be a big surprise. So you know who will be the first

person to step off but we will have to wait and see when the doors open.

Yes, there are two and we know who they are. You said it has been

difficult to really appreciate how you are seen here, obviously

everybody will have been as during you how much pride there is at home,

but are you really ready for what happens when you step off that

flight? I've got no concept of what has happened, how people have taken

to what we have done. You hear bits and pieces from back home but I

think it will suddenly hit all of us when we get home and can truly take

it all in. All we want to know is if we have inspired the next

generation, that is what everybody is keen to get home for. I have got

some former Olympic medallist here with me in the studio, Sally Gunnell

is one who could probably tell you how that might feel! You have been a

role model and you know how they are feeling on the flight. It is amazing

and I love the way they are deciding who will go down first! It is a

little bit like that, and you do feel sorry for the people at the

back of the plane, but what inspires you to carry on, you want to be that

person at the front, and someone might not have got to a final, might

not have achieved what they want to, aiming for four years, but you say,

I want to be at the front next time, that is what inspires, so it is good

that they do that, it is really exciting and I love watching all

this. I'm going to go and meet my husband, he is coming off the plane

in a couple of others, so it is nice to see that, he has been out there

as a coach so it is lovely to see the excitement of the team. Looking

forward, Kat, you will save where you are at the moment but will you

hope to be there next time? Yes, I have not fully made any decisions, I

need to make sure I give myself enough time to rest my body and by

mind, have the conversations with the right people and see what

happens, but I still love my sport and love what I do and as long as

that keeps happening then, why stop? This was not your first Olympics?

No, second. Your first experience was London, how has this compared

with London? It feels completely different... The team that supported

each other, got to know each other and enjoyed an experience together

but the whole flying away, we never had that in London, said this is all

completely new for me, a completely new experience. It is hard to try

and describe the feeling and the buzz, in London you were drawing

from the crowds because it was so incredible so for this one it has

been all of the extras that, the extra emotions you would get from

the crowd, having to draw that from your team-mates and, in a way, it is

nice to get that from your team-mate and share it. We have watched so

many different sports that we could not do in England because there were

so many athletes, so I have enjoyed that side of it. We are looking at

you inside the plane and we can also see it gently taxiing with that

Golden nose cone, BA2016, victoRIOus. Someone is waiting

behind you, who is that?! We saw a hand, now they have gone shy! Do you

want to say hello, welcome home? Hello! Introduce yourselves, tell us

what you did in Rio. I'm with Team GB, it is good to be back. We are

struggling to you but it is great to have your home, we are looking

forward to you all getting off the flight and I'm sure your family are

dying to see. What was your highlight, Kat, before we let you

go? If I'm completely honest, taking the way me competing, we had this

conversation yesterday and I don't normally cry at performances but

when Max won gold I started crying. For us, it felt like the turning

point for gymnastics so I think that was probably the standout

performance for me. That was a beautiful picture of the

plane just taxiing with the flag. Let's just hear the welcoming

committee on the tarmac. APPLAUSE.

I'm not sure how that flag was put up at the last moment! We can still

see you, Kat. Kat, thank you for talking to us. There they are,

making the final preparations to get the athletes off the plane. Thank

you so much, Kat, enjoyed! Enjoyed everything that unfolds for you.

Thank you so much for joining us and for your video diaries as well.

Kat was telling us she knows who the first two athlete of the plane will

be, but we have to wait and see when the doors open. Who are you

expecting? Two might be a clue. I'm wondering if it will be Jason Kenny

and Laura Trott. They are already here! That is a bad idea, then! That

was my best theory! Max and mot. Mo has gone home. Nicola Adams? There

are so many! That is what is so exciting, the anticipation of the

British public to see these people coming home, to get to feel and

touch the Olympics because it has been at a distance and now it is

coming home. Adam, he won the first? We saw a picture of him in the

cockpit. The first and last medal? Good thought! Hopefully there is not

much longer to go. The steps are going up, they are getting ready. It

would be nice if they did a slide, open the emergency door and let them

come sliding out! Let's bring in Dan Johnson, who is

on the tarmac. Lovely to see that plane with the little flag flying

and the golden nose tip. Tell us who is on the tarmac waiting to greet

the athletes as they get off? There is a huge party here just by

this gate. It is not just media, journalists, reporters, camera crews

and Stav, but also a lot of the airport workers, British Airways has

put a huge team out to welcome Team GB back. There has been a lot of

preparation gone into this welcome this morning, a

huge effort from everybody at Heathrow, especially Terminal 5 and

the British Airways team, so there is a full cabin crew out here as

well as the team that would normally welcome a plane back. Lots of people

here, it seems like this part of the airport has ground to a bit about at

least for a few minutes, people working on nearby gates just taking

a couple of minutes to stop and have a look and savour this moment. What

a fantastic site, the plane with its golden nose cone, the little flag

pudding out of the top, I think they put that up after it landed. It made

it here ahead of time, they have had such a good flight back, lovely to

hear those stories from the Olympians who are on board about how

enjoyable this flight has been. What a way to cap off their real

experience with such a nice fight back and such a warm welcome here at

Heathrow on what is an absolutely cracking day, warm and bright,

beautiful sunshine, and they are now trying to manoeuvre the steps into

the right position to open the doors and allow our Olympians to take

their first breath of British air as Olympic champions, some of them. A

lot of discussion about who will be first, it will be interesting to see

if the pecking order is maintained, if there was an Olympic sport for

getting out of your seat, getting your luggage and getting ready to

disembark, I would be interested to know who would win that contest! It

looks like it will only be a couple of minutes until we find out. Lots

of luggage to unload as well, all there, the Team GB equipment has

been on board that plane, some unusual items of cargo. I think the

biggest was one of the sales from the wind sailing team, having

brought their equipment back with them. This was a specially chartered

flight, I don't think anybody will have broken any luggage allowances,

even with those quite weighty gold, silver and bronze medals, which I'm

sure all those who won them will be clutching very close. They are still

trying to get the steps in the right place up to the door, always the

kind of job that takes a little bit longer than you would expect! But

the team here determined to get everything absolutely right and make

sure that everything happens in the right way.

If there was an Olympic sport for putting the steps up to the plane

this guy would have a gold medal. The response while they have been

away, they will love seeing this, they will sit down and have a cup of

tea. Does it mean a lot to know that people are interested? Not just

friends and family but genuine supporters as well. Everybody has

got their own goals. We are all people who love strutting

it on stage in front of a crowd. All those hours running up and down. All

people see is what goes on at the Olympic Games. For them, it will be

wonderful, when they come out of that terminal. Breaking news, the

legs that stabilise the steps are down on the ground.

Hopefully it will not be too long until they can open the door and

start getting people off. Who is coming off first? I'm going Nicola

Adams. They've finally got the steps in

place and the door will open. You are thinking Adam PT and Nicola

Adams. If this was a normal flight you

would not be impressed with that. They will be desperate to get off. I

feel like there has been a party on board. How much time will they get

to enjoy themselves before the training and the regime kicks back

in? Everybody has got a different programme. Adam PT will be competing

in a few weeks. The others will pretend media commitments. I would

think 90% will go off on holiday and completely rest their mind and body.

Every year, world, European... The door is open and they are all

applauding, I don't know if they are applauding their staff for getting

the steps up or the Olympians. I'm sure it is a bit of both.

We think it is Max Whitlock who is stepping out first. The cabin crew

are having their moment first. Nicola Adams and Matt Whitlock.

There they are. You feel like you want to clap.

A very warm welcome for these Olympians stepping back down onto

British soil after their triumph in Rio de Janiero. They are being lined

up for the official photographs. Taking advantage of this moment.

Make sure that it can be enjoyed by people here and around the world.

Really warm applause. Their achievements over the last few

weeks. Has there been any performances that

stand out? Too many. I'm going to go to the pool first of all. Adam PT

has been dominated. That dominance. He will dominate that event for a

few years. I kind of knew that it was going to happen.

The relay performance is what you find. The last medal we had was in

1994. The rowing guys, the cycling guys. But the swimming has blown me

away. You've been around at the Olympics since the late 80s. How

much have you seen in terms of the way that it is performed under way

that performance has been received? The main thing was after the 1996

Olympics, when we just got one goal. We need to get world-class results

and to get that you need world-class athletes and coaches. They've got

the body for it and the main four at that mind for it. And they need

help. In the past we were up against state-sponsored programmes, in

America they have intensive training centres. It all comes out of

University culture. For now, we have performance centres where athletes

go and train with the best in the world. You get results. We had an

amazing game. They are enjoying this. A great moment. It has been

carefully co-ordinated but everybody has something to be proud of as they

represent the country. It's an amazing thing that we all must take

for granted. It is British success in sport in so many different areas.

It translates. It is something to expect and celebrate. The kids

watching will have a massive effect on whether they can do it or not. I

remember watching Carl Lewis and thinking I would love to be able to

do that and years later Linford Christie doing the same thing in

Barcelona. That was a massive catalyst for me. Going through that

experience and different sport. All these types of different sports.

Hello to both of you, how are you feeling watching this? It is

incredible and great to see. It is nice to see that so many people

stayed. There is an amazing amount of medallists who are there. Do you

wish you were on the plane? A little bit but obviously it is great to be

home and to come back to our dogs. They were saying it is difficult to

know how you will be received when you're in that bubble. How has it

been for you being back already? It has taken a bit of adjusting. You

have no idea what is going on at home. Most of the TV is in

Portuguese. I had no idea what is happening. It is great to realise

what it means to everyone. Hasn't sunk in? I don't think so, it is

weird to come back and it is incredible to see everybody and the

support we've had. So much interest in the athletes, Nu, these huge

names, that people are looking up to. How does it feel? It is strange.

Particularly being in the public eye. People appreciate the support.

Most people are really nice. I don't think we've bought a single drink. I

spoke to your Father who said the drive that you have means you are a

different person, you make yourself sick with the pressure you're under.

Obviously we speak to you and see you away from competitive mode.

Every race I go into, whether the track or down at the Olympics I want

to win it. I guess it would come from my coach, QC is everything. He

sees exactly how I am and how I feel. I guess there's the other

side, nice and relaxed when I don't need to think about riding my bike.

It must be nice having this experience together. You have an

understanding of what you're going through.

Yes, that is special, it is something not many people get to

experience. When you are at the Olympics, your family is kept at arm

's length, you are in a bubble at the village, you just go to the

races, you might get a couple from your family if you get to the crowd,

but for as we shared it together and for me that definitely helps and I

feel lucky. Are you competitive with each other? Only when it comes to

scrabble! Funnily enough, I had to scrabble in my head! I can imagine!

But not sport, do you compete against each other? No, we are very

different athletes, we can compare gold medals but we just want the

best for each other. Watching Jason, I get so nervous because I just want

him to win. How do you feel, Jason, when you watch Laura? The same, it

is much harder watching, I have an appreciation for my parents and

understand more what they are going through because it is just so much

harder watching. When you are in it yourself, you are

in control of what happened and you don't tend to worry about yourself

that much, but when you are watching someone else, you want the best for

them, you want them to be happy and safe as well, there is always a

chance of crashing in our sport so when she finally crosses the finish

line you can breathe out. What happens next for you two? We are

having a bit of a break now, after London I felt like I rushed back

onto the bike so I want to enjoy this moment. What about you, Jason?

Well, we do everything together, so I will be taking a break as well! We

are relaxed now, like Laura said, just take our time and we could

parade. Everything we have done, every second of every day has been

planned until the Olympics, so we have got no plans, just enjoying

floating around, really. And everyone is waiting for that wedding

date! That is exciting for us to be able to plan now, we felt we had to

get one hurdle out of the way now. It sounds like I am saying it was a

downer, it wasn't, but it was such a huge part of our lives, we wanted to

get that out of the way to enjoy the planning of the wedding. It is

fantastic to talk to you both, congratulations for everything you

have achieved so far. Thank you very much.

Let's bring in my studio guest. Just fantastic to hear them and see the

pride and joy that all these athletes are feeling right now. Jo,

they are a group of people you were with just a little while ago. So

many amazing role models coming off the plane, they will inspire the

next generation. They have gone up there, train hard, showed what you

can achieve if you follow your dreams, fantastic role models for

the youngsters coming through, such an inspiration. It has created a

good feel in our country and that is why it is worth the investment that

we put into sport because it has given us a good feel, it has

inspired a nation and makes you proud to be part of the country. How

important has the investment been? It is interesting to look at how

much was invested prior to Atalanta, ?5 million a year, and I think there

was one called Michael in Atlanta, and funding has increased

exponentially -- one gold medal. It equates to about ?4 million per

medal, and some people think that is not money worth spending? I think it

is about ?1.09 per taxpayer per medal. That is a good way to look at

it! And the feel-good factor for the whole country is fantastic. Maybe it

had more impact being in London, but the success that we have had is

absolutely down to the funding that we get from the lottery money,

through UK Sport, and without it we would not be as successful. You can

see we are now one of the best funded nations in the Olympic Games,

second in the league table, and we all know here that we would not be

able to train at athletes, some of us started training before lottery

funding and the shift in gear you are able to put into your training

when you don't have to worry about, can I get the right food, can I get

enough preparatory, is huge. Literally it comes down to things

like worrying about food, before funding? I was in the British rowing

team in the build-up to London and the step change in the team between

London and now is not to do with training, that has not changed much,

most people in the world are doing the same training, but it comes down

to the fact that there is a phenomenal nutritionist and

full-time chefs in the roving centre. We would not be able to

afford that without funding to put that in place. It is those things

behind the scenes that create these performances and I think it is so

important that if we want to stay at the top of the medal tables we have

to keep funding the athletes to compete. A lot of the money would go

into preventing injuries, scanning, having treatment every day, and that

is the difference because a lot of these guys would not be getting the

injuries and niggles that we would have done before the funding. You

did not benefit from that? I was working, I worked right up to my

Olympic gold-medal part-time in an accountancy office! That is beyond

the realm of understanding for a lot of people that you were juggling

like that. I trained twice a day, went up to London twice a week and

left at lunchtime to do a gym session then trained when I got home

in the evening. Really, really different. I was very lucky that I

had the company that took the pressure off a bit because I knew I

had funding that would keep me in the sport and allow me to do what I

wanted to do, but also my parents as well and my coach, people like that,

I was lucky that I had that opportunity. That is the difference

between five gold medallist Ben to 27 gold by the lists now. To have

that support and be able, your event is being paid and you are looking at

those different elements and you are able to go out every day and think

about training and performance, it is a great investment. I completely

agree, there are lots of stresses outside of sport and it can take

away from your performance. How were your experiences? I was before the

system to start with as well, I was carrying timber left, right and

centre. At least it kept you fit! Yes, but it takes away from the

performance on the track, it was difficult and when the lottery

system came in it allowed me to just focus on the job at hand, which was

just running quick and having the infrastructure around to be able to

perform. And getting that, does it mean that you feel a duty to give

back to your country because you are getting that support? Yes, you can

put all your efforts in, when you stand on the line you know you have

done everything because you have to finance in place to allow you to do

that so you stand on the line and think, I will do the best I can for

myself and my country. We are effectively taking this money, we

are given the money from the National Lottery so I see it as my

duty to convert as much as my -- as much of my energy and time into

improving my performance. You cannot guarantee medals and performances

which you can guarantee the input from the athlete and I saw it as my

task to do as much as I can. When I am not on the river, what else can I

do? Away from training, what else can I do to improve my performance?

That is what a the athletes the freedom to do. Everyone can train so

much in a day, it is the other stuff that is not physical that gives that

extra boost to performances. We are still watching athletes coming off

the plane. The first team to increase the medal haul after a home

games, that is a phenomenal achievement and it makes you wonder

what will happen next time in Tokyo. Jo, you are not ruling out being in

Tokyo? I would be extremely old, like I am already, nearly 46! But I

have not ruled it out. Just interested, listening to all the

views here, because it has been amazing, the way the funding has

helped people, because it is not just individuals that are lottery

funded and get help with their training course, their diet,

everything, the whole team benefits because it is funding experts,

coaches, also medical staff, brilliant physios, training camps.

We all benefited prior to Rio that we had a training camp in a

different part of Brazil that created camaraderie, brought

everyone together, there was great spirit and expertise there that we

had access to, so many different ways that the whole team can

benefit. We talk about the cost per medal but the whole team is

benefiting and from there you get the people that really exceed

expectations or defend their titles or whatever, and it is the whole

team that benefit and you get the youngsters coming through. It has

been really brilliant and so many sports are targeted, that is what is

great about our country as well. We are seeing the plane, which has

still possibly got some athletes to come off, I don't know? The arrivals

hall as well, we will keep a lookout because hopefully soon the athletes

will start to come through and be reunited with their families. I

think it is making sure that the clubs are ready because we have

inspired all these young kids, Max was saying in his gymnastics club in

Essex, the list of youngsters that want to join, we have got to make

sure that we have got the coaches and hopefully can inspire some

coaches to come into the sport because a lot of that is often

volunteer work that they put in, so we have inspired a generation

of youngsters but we have got to make sure that the clubs are ready

and the infrastructure is ready to get the grass roots to be able to

come up. I know there are some good initiatives through the new strategy

being put up with the Government and Sport England to really look at that

grassroots through schools and clubs as well, that needs to be put in

place over the next four years. Sally is so right because all of us

here are grateful to the volunteers, I have often had the opportunity to

say in my career that if it was not for the volunteers, the coaches, I'm

still in contact with my coach from when I was a child, without all

these volunteers none of us would have the opportunity to go to an

Olympic Games and achieve things we wanted to achieve, things like that.

It is a really brilliant point Sally is making there. It takes a village,

people always say. And to integrate the people who are paid in the

National Lottery, the staff in the teams, and get them to integrate

with the volunteers in the Cubs, that is a great challenge because

those people say, why aren't we being paid to do that job? It is

hard and we have to rise to that challenge because now we have got

this success pulling people up, we need to provide a pathway. Let's

talk to Daniela Ralph in the arrivals hall. Still some athletes

coming off the plane, they keep on coming. Hopefully soon they will

filter through to the arrivals hall where Daniela is waiting with

relatives. I expect there is a huge amount of anticipation where you

are? Yes, there is, you can see the

pictures in front of me, there is a special area that has been set up in

the main international arrivals hall at Terminal 5, specifically for the

friends and family of Team GB. You can see the union flags hanging over

the barriers, red white and blue balloons now in position, and these

are friends and family who have watched from afar, many of them,

over the last couple weeks, seeing members of their family competed in

Rio, so they are eager to see those people coming off that flight that

has landed. The athletes are of course getting the VIP treatment.

You have been watching them come off the plane, they will go on those

buses, they will not be collecting bags or any of that nonsense, they

will come to a side entrance in the arrivals hall and come through in

front of the cameras here, and they will go into this area where they

will be able to see and be reunited with their friends and family at the

airport. We have just been talking to the mum of Will Hatch, one of the

gold medallist in the rowing eight. She said the moment the plane landed

the text it to say, Mum, are you there? Can I have a lift home! Back

to normal quite quickly for some of those athletes, even those with gold

bundles. But a high level of anticipation here, everyone eager to

see those people coming off that aircraft.

Lizzie on WhatsApp says, my brother John Scofield is on the flight, he

and Lee and he'd won silver in the newsprint, we cannot be there but

his nephews want to say hi. They surpassed expectations and were

amazing. The athletes are getting off the

plane, they will go and meet up with their loved ones and later some of

the star athletes will be speaking to the media. Simon McCauley is

waiting for them to come through and talk to the media a little later.

When are you expecting them? We expect a news conference at about

11:30am but any time from 10:45am we expect them to come in. This is not

a glamorous location from what you have just been looking at in the

arrivals hall earlier but it is where the families are waiting right

now to meet some of the athletes as they come off, and the plan is they

will be reunited here, celebrations get under way, then there is a news

conference, after which we will be talking to some of the athletes

involved. We have been told we cannot speak to them before the news

conference gets under way, scheduled to get underway here, we expect Adam

Peaty, heads of Team GB, heads of UK Sport, to give that news conference.

Wonderful atmosphere and every time something pops up on the TV, they

have got BBC News on here, we were cheering as the athletes were

getting off the plane, so a wonderful atmosphere here and those

first shots of families being reunited with their families after

what has been a pretty tough two weeks would be something to see, so

we will have plenty more, news conference at 1130 AM and more

before then, as well. We are staying across what is

happening on the plane and in the arrivals hall where relatives are

waiting. Do you think this will make it more

appealing to young kids out there to think, I want to represent my

country? You really hope so. They are characters, down-to-earth, they

work hard and you want your kids to have role models. My three boys have

watched the games, you want to encourage that, you want to make

sure it is not unachievable. You want them to enjoy sport, you want

them to be active. You want the schools to engage in it. You want

local authorities, see this opportunity, adults as well. It is

very easy, we sat there watching it. Let's get up and do something. Just

see the joy. What you're describing about the athletes that make us

proud. Not just the sporting talent, the character, the resilience, there

are some egos but do you encounter them very often? There are a breadth

of characters. In all athletes there is a kind of power inside, a

powerful engine driving all these athletes, whether they reveal it.

When they are out there training that is the fuel that they are

using. This ego thing, there is that power inside that sport. It allows a

channel to be released. I started athletics quite old, when I was 15.

My coach said, going to race, see what happens, have winter, see we

are. I looked at the rankings, I saw my name in the rankings. I thought,

I must be quite good at this. I did not have much direction and could

easily have gone down the right way and got a lot of negative

environments, it is quite easy for me to have done that. That gave me

an avenue, watching Linford Christie and Carl Lewis, I had a slight

attraction to the sport and I thought I was good at this. Kept

going and kept going and then the lottery allowed me to put more

effort in. I used to train at Bisham Abbey and when I did that... I still

go there and it has expanded into an amazing facility, there is a hotel

and these shackles, you have amazing facilities and you can see how the

growth of the hockey teams training their, you can see everyone

benefiting from the facilities. We are still waiting for the athletes

to come through to the arrivals. Let's take a look at the standard

winning moments of the last two weeks.

These divers seemed rather taken by the water below. I

did it for my country because that means so much to me.

They are fearless and without equal, they are history makers.

An absolutely sensational performance.

COMMENTAOR: Andy Murray is a double

different, the crowd out there today were incredible.

Been in my mind every single day for the past

Great Britain have won the Olympic gold medal.

I could just keep on watching that. If you want to do the same it is on

the programme page. I will be back later with our Olympians about the

return of Team GB to Great Britain. They are still filing off the plane.

Let's take a quick look. Coming off the plane, the arrivals hall, we are

expecting to see them. 366 athletes went there and 129 of them came back

with a medal. This was the moment when they got off the plane. Very

carefully order for them to emerge from the plane but obviously for

everybody who has been, huge amount of pride. We were talking to one of

the athletes on the plane saying they've been in a bit of a bubble

and it's hard to imagine really what it is going to be like once they

touched down on British soil and come face-to-face with the people

have been watching them and cheering them on. We will be cheering them

on. I've got some breaking news to bring you about the chairman of

Ofsted. He is standing down from his position with immediate effect. He

was forced to apologise for comments he made at a teaching conference

describing the Isle of Wight as a pure ghetto which suffers from

inbreeding. He said he has informed the Secretary of State that he is

resigning with immediate effect, it has been a great privilege, I'm

pleased this is in place, he says, I will miss working with an excellent

team. He had to apologise for those comments. Let's talk about the

gender pay gap because... Women face a widening pay gap

with their male counterparts once they start a family,

a study by a leading economic The Institute for Fiscal Studies

said that while the overall "gender wage gap" had narrowed over

the past two decades, women with children

were falling behind. The study, carried out

for the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, suggested that on average,

hourly pay rates for women That compares with a gap of 23%

in 2003 and 28% in 1993. However once women started a family

the gap widens consistently year by year so that

by the time their first child had reached the age of 12, their hourly

pay was 33% down on men. To look in to this further,

I'm joined in the studio by Nerissa Chesterfield from

the Institute of Economic Affairs, From Cardiff, we're joined

by Eleanor Wade who was involved in a successful equal pay claim

and from Newcastle, He has been involved in many gender

pay discrimination cases in the UK. Thank you for joining us. Is the law

absolutely clear on this? It is clear but incredibly difficult to

enforce and that the government introduced tribunal fees to start a

case, the number of cases has gone down by 90%. The law exists in

theory but it is incredibly difficult to pursue. You were a part

of a group involved in a successful equal pay claim in 2013. What was

the issue for you? The issue for us was about unequal pay. It was that

we've got women doing the same work as men but earning less money for

it. We took our employer to a tribunal and we were able to

negotiate a settlement. Should it have been clear-cut if the

women were demonstrably earning less than the men? The biggest difficulty

is most women are not able to find out what the pay gap is because the

government removed the ability to ask for questionnaires. The big

difficulty is the lack of transparency. Most people don't know

that they are earning less than their male colleagues and when they

do discover it, it is finding out what the reason for it is and

pursuing the case. You have a series of hurdles before you can get to a

successful settlement. Laura, your firm publishes the

gender pay gap, how important is transparency? It is critical, we

have published for the last two years and will publish the third

next month. There is something around transparency as a starting

point, people understanding the size of the challenge and encouraging

debate in the organisation, so people being aware that we have a

clear set of actions and we are willing to be held to account within

the firm and publicly to deliver on that action plan to close the gap.

Is it straightforward that people doing the St John should be paid the

same wage? Absolutely, this has pointed out that women and men are

getting paid, per hour, the same, but the difference is they are not

making like the like consideration, said they are comparing women

working part-time to men working full-time, therefore they are

working fewer hours and therefore... But it is the hourly pay rate where

there is the discrepancy. But that is perhaps in particular cases, yes,

but in this consideration the ONS found that women between 20 and 39

R, median earnings, getting paid 6.5% more than men, and it is when

people look at the lifework balance for familial reasons, they take a

step back from work, they work part-time, and therefore work less

hours, therefore do get the discrepancy in pay between men and

women. Do you agree with that, Stephane? I disagree with both of

the previous commentators. If you look at the PWC 's published

figures, they mean virtually nothing. A woman working there

cannot tell from the figures published what their pay is compared

to a male colleague, they published two General figures covering 150,000

people, they are virtually useless for the purposes of pay

transparency. If you look at the ONS figures, the ONS figures themselves

are not very good, but if you look at the comparison between part-time

and full-time hourly pay comparisons, it is the same number

of hours, the actual pay gap is over 40%. It is ridiculous to suggest

that there is no gender pay gap or that there is no unequal pay. Look

at the reality of this. I have dealt with over 250,000 cases and in

virtually no case has the gender pay gap been less than 33%. In

many cases that we have been pursuing against employers who have

equal opportunities policies, they have pay gaps of over 80% and in

some cases over 100%. That is women getting paid half the amount of men

doing equivalent work. This is not statistical, these are cases where

we have been able to establish and tribunal have accepted that the

reason for the pay difference is gender. It is unlawful. I think the

idea that there is no gender pay gap and no issue is just simply wrong.

But my point is that when women take time out for familial reasons, when

they come back into the workplace naturally their career trajectory or

opportunities have been mediated by the fact they have taken time out,

and that is the same with men if they take a significant time out of

work, your career and earning prosperity is diminished, that

explains part of it. But if you look at, one of the things the IFA study

shows, if you make a like-for-like comparison, for example if you

compare graduate women with graduate men, there has been no reduction in

the gender pay gap over the last 20 years. The only reason the overall

figure has gone down is because the number of female graduates have

significantly increased as a result of changes made by the last Labour

Government and as a result of that it has reduced the overall figure.

If you do a like-for-like comparison there is significant gender pay

differences. Laura, Stephan was saying that your company publishing

the gender pay gap does not say anything. In terms of people knowing

how salaries directly compare, if companies are serious about ending

the gender pay gap, why not publish or salaries? It is right, the

headlines are interesting and spark debate but they are averages and no

individual is ever average. What they do is give us the data and

analysis to understand what is going on at an individual level, and by

doing that analysis, what we know at PWC is part of our challenge is we

have fewer women in the most senior positions, so our challenge is

making sure we are promoting women to the most senior positions and

recruit women into those positions. If you take out the factor of a lack

of women in senior positions, our pay gap is much smaller. But it is

still unacceptable so we need to understand what is driving that and

it is generally recruiting more senior people, when we recruit at

senior levels it tends to be men more than women, so we know what the

issue is and it allows us to focus on our action plan and be

transparent within the organisation in terms of, these are the

challenges that we have, this is the plan to tackle those challenges, and

we set targets and we are transparent around more than just

those headline levels and we are happy to be held to account to

delivering on those targets. Thank you all very much, we are going to

go straight back to the arrivals hall at Heathrow. Daniela Rob is

there with the friends and family of the athletes.

Yes, we are still waiting, we are expecting a big group of athletes to

emerge shortly into the international arrivals hall here at

Terminal 5 at Heathrow. We have seen a couple go through but not a big

group of them at the moment. What you can see here is this area that

has been created just for the friends and the family of Team GB.

You can see all the flags, signs saying, welcome home, handmade

picture there that says, welcome back auntie Charlie. These are the

people, in large part, who have been watching from a bar over the last

couple of weeks, watching their loved ones compete in Rio and are

now here to find any welcome them home and congratulate them in

person. They are of course also the most important support team any

sports man or woman can have, friends and family, here to give

them that support and the morale boost and everything needed over the

years and years of training that has got them to this point in their

sporting career, so there is a buzz around the international arrivals

hall and from where I am looking, the shot you are seeing, I can seed

layers and layers of people on all of the flaws here at Terminal 5,

leaning over the barriers, if the camera goes up a little bit you can

probably see the top of the escalators, everybody here at

Heathrow today on the whole place has ground to a halt to welcome home

Team GB. They will be bussed from the point where you saw the plane on

the tarmac, they are, we are told, having to pick up some bags but it

will be a bit quicker than the way you and I would normally collect our

bags! We should see them here, we are hoping, in the next couple of

minutes. OK, we will stay watching those

pictures in the arrivals hall. Sally Gunnell, you were saying earlier

that your husband will be coming back. I have got to shoot from here

to Heathrow to pick him up, will I get through?! He is on the next

plane full of the support team and coaches that have been out there.

What has he been doing? He is a coach for the endurance team, he was

in charge of Jo and have athletes out there, so it has been a hard

summer for them as well and us, so we are looking forward to getting

home, seeing the boys and myself. Those seats there are where some of

the star athletes are going to be at about 11:30am, they will be speaking

to the media. They are going to be shattered, aren't they? Jo, you have

been back ten days or so? About a week or so. How long does it take to

recover? They will be so happy and elated to see them relatives. I

remember when I got back and saw my husband and my kids, I went straight

into mum mode, went to bushy Park and had a day out, I was so excited

to see everyone, they will be elated to see their family, their family

will be so proud and they will have their own celebrations. How proud

are you all feel in? You are all role models but you are looking at

these people and thinking, they have done something amazing, haven't

they? I think Rulli is more it for me, because you are so close to so

many people competing -- relieved. You know the expectation they have

on themselves so when they deliver gold or silver or bronze, or even

just the performance they are looking for, you are so pleased they

have got the result that they wanted. For me, in London, we want

to win gold, we didn't get it, so for the friends and family it is, it

is not really whether they won or not, it is where they stack up

against what they want to achieve. Everybody is talking about what has

been achieved there, everything is an achievement, the fact that they

got out there and represented their country, but when you have not

achieved what you wanted, how does that feel when you are surrounded by

others who maybe have done what they wanted? It is really tough, because

we all put so much into that result, and it can be just marginal things,

when Mo fell, you can imagine if we did not win the ten Kate that night,

how much of a disaster it would have been for him, -- the ten kilometres.

But these things happen, you were talking about stepping up to achieve

the result, but when you don't do it it takes a long time to process that

and get through it. The reality is they have been to the Olympics and

represented GB at the Olympic Games, and that is an incredible

achievement in itself. With track and field, we had a lot of fourth

and fifth placings, and to me that is encouraging because it is a great

performance, but they don't get the recognition that they deserve, but

they are so young and for us in track and field it is an exciting

next four years because they have got everything to aim for now, they

have seen what it is about. Let's look at inside the plane

earlier because we were talking about one of the athletes, saying

the national anthem was sung when they got on the plane. Let's see

some of that, we can take a peak at the bronze medal winner Asha

Phillips' Twitter feed from inside the plane. We will do that in a

minute because the first arrivals have come in. There we go.

CHEERING. Tell us who is coming through,

Daniela? We can see some of the row was

coming through, I'm not sure if you can see, with the reddish hair,

holding up his medal, that is will, he was the one I said earlier asked

his mum to come and pick him up from the airport to date once he had

landed an hour or so ago! What we are going to see now is a stream of

athletes coming through from the baggage hall, all in that now

familiar Team GB strip, all of them wearing their medals, the gold

medals hanging proudly around their necks for those who got gold, silver

is coming through here as well now, all of the medal winning athletes

coming through this way except for a few that would have gone for the

news conference at the hotel. This is the moment here where they will

move past us and go into a separate area where you can see the friends

and family there to finally be reunited with their friends and

families who obviously play such an important part in their career and

getting them to this point here. I think, for some of them, it is

probably going to feel like a shock, to be honest, particularly those in

sports that perhaps don't have as high a profile as others. We have

seen representatives from the badminton team who will get an

enormous cheer when they come through. It is going to be a bit of

a shock for some of them receiving all this attention, but a real

welcome home party in the international arrivals hall at

Terminal 5. Definitely. Daniela, thank you very

much. Thank you to all of my guests with me in the studio, it has been

great happy New Year and watching that arrival, Team GB's victorious

return to Britain continues on Newsroom Live.

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