26/08/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's nine o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

Italy declares a state of emergency after the earthquake that's now

known to have killed 267 people and left 400 injured.

This is the scene live in Italy as the search continues

More and more children and teenagers are being held under terror laws -

that's according to figures obtained by this programme -

And it's now three months since so-called legal highs were banned -

the government says hundreds of shops no longer sell them -

but we hear a warning that the problem has simply moved

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

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Our top story today, the death toll from the Italian

earthquake has risen to 267 - and nearly have been

There's been a strong aftershock this morning near the site

of Wednesday's devastating tremor - it's believed to have had

Last night it was revealed that at least three Britons are thought

Italy's Prime Minister has declared a state of emergency

The sun sets over the little villages around Amatrice,

so peaceful and still now, after the destruction.

People who have lost everything turn to makeshift camps,

Meanwhile, the search for survivors continues.

But rescuers won't give up, saying they will work

The sniffer dogs aren't finding anything.

It is hard to know just how many people have been affected.

Many tourists were in the area for the local festival that had

Last night, an official from Amatrice said three

The Foreign Office says it has sent extra staff to the region

Powerful after-shocks continue to affect the area.

You can see here the effects when this one struck in Amatrice

yesterday afternoon, complicating the rescue effort.

And there is now a search for answers.

Italy is known to be vulnerable to earthquakes,

and promises were made to learn lessons after the last

So why were so many buildings not reinforced to withstand them?

Italian prosecutors have begun a criminal investigation to find out

Let's speak to Jenny Hill in Amatrice.

Journey, what are the search and rescue people that you've been

speaking to saying to you about realistically what they can hope to

achieve? Well, in reality they have been saying to us for some time now

that hour by hour, the chances of finding anyone alive are diminishing

and diminishing fast. Nevertheless, they are continuing to search. We

saw them all day yesterday, they spent all night the night before,

just sifting through the rubble. After-shocks continued to rock the

ground under which they are searching. We come to this medical

post which was set up overnight. First of all they want to be her for

the people from Amatrice which is a short drive away. The hospital was

badly damaged in the earthquake. Survivors are now living in and

around the town in tents, sports halls, some of them are sleeping in

their cars. There is nowhere to go for medical support. Secondly, they

want to be prepared in the case that one of those power for after-shocks

triggers injuries. Experienced them and they knock you off your feet.

There was another earthquake this morning in Amatrice. It's a

dangerous place to be, of course for the rescue workers sifting through

the rubble. They are climbing in nine out of partially collapsed

buildings, its precarious work. Also to those people living nearby in

tents. There is a sense that for those survivors and rescue workers

the ordeal isn't over yet. The earthquake on Wednesday affected

quite a wide area, are the rescue team is confident they have been

able to assess fully which parts of central Italy need help, or are they

saying to you are still regions they can't reach? I think in all reality

there is a resignation that there are some places where there won't be

survivors at this stage. What's interesting and specific to this

region if you have the town of Amatrice which was worst hit, but

around it you have these tiny villages and hamlets. They are

difficult to get to and networked by a series of narrow, winding roads.

Some of those roads are now impassable because after-shocks

continued to cause more damage. For example you might have had a

partially collapsed building and after an after-shock it might fall

down and blocked the road. That makes the task of emergency workers

so much harder. You can see the ambulances lined up, one of the real

problems you have here is if someone is injured in Amatrice, or someone

has a heart attack in the tent city, they've got to get them to a

hospital possibly as far afield as L'Aquila or Rome. For the emergency

services it is a real challenge. All of the hamlets and villages we have

been to appear to have been attended by some kind of government body.

They've called out reserve civil workers. We spoke to a number of

volunteers pulling away at the wreckage, pulling out bodies sadly,

looking for survivors, too. There is a sense now that perhaps recovering

bodies will take a little longer. As you suggested, a desperate situation

in Italy, Italians and all of those villages razed to the ground. We

have to acknowledge it is August, it's a popular tourist area, we

believe three Britons are among those killed. What more have you

heard about that and perhaps about other nationalities? A lot of

nationalities could have been caught up in this as well as local people.

Of course, it is a magnet for tourists, and Italian tourists to.

Romans come out here for their holidays. The Romanian government

believe another of their citizens were caught up in this, too. The

coming hours and days will be for identification. The Mayor of

Amatrice say well over 200 people have died in that town alone. Very

few of them have been identified formally. In the meantime, although

we know that no one has been pulled alive from the wreckage since

Wednesday night, the rescue are continuing with their dangerous job,

sifting through the rubble in the hope that they can still reach

survivors trapped inside. Many thanks. Jenny Hill in Amatrice. Now,

the rest of the day 's news. Annita is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary NHS services across England

could be dramatically cut, as part of wide-ranging efficiency

plans seen by the BBC. 44 areas have been asked to draw up

cost-cutting measures, which include cuts to bed numbers

and changes to care provided by GPs NHS England says no changes will be

made without local consultation. NHS England says a reorganisation

of local services is essential to improve patient care,

and help deliver efficiency savings. They have asked all local

health and care services to make these plans,

which are designed to meet the demands of the population over

the next five years. But the think tank the Nuffield

Trust has warned that some areas are proposing cuts of up

to 20% of beds. Campaigners say the plans

aren't transparent enough, and include suggestions to reduce

three hospitals to two in Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland,

and reviewing GP practices. In one part of the West Midlands,

the Black Country, a major A Our research finds that,

in a lot of these types of reconfigurations,

you don't save very much money. All that happens is the patients go

to the next hospital down the road. They're more inconvenienced,

they have to travel further, but it rarely saves

the money that's needed. An NHS England spokesperson said

the plans were being drawn up by local health and council leaders

working together, and they No changes would be made

without local engagement Motorists heading to and from Calais

are being warned to be extra vigilant as armed people smugglers

resort to increasingly violent Gangs have been spotted using trees

to block roads - causing traffic to stop -

and threatening drivers so they can get migrants on board

lorries more easily. The authorities in Calais say

the French army should be called in because the roads leading

to the port have become a "no-go zone" during one of the busiest

weekends of the year. We are on the main motorway

into Calais. Entirely blocking the carriageway,

a tree, dragged onto the road by masked and armed

people smugglers. Using increasing levels of violence,

this is the terrifying reality The roadblock causes traffic

to build, giving migrants the chance The smugglers direct them

to lorries, queueing behind us. In the shadows they flank our

vehicle, but then... The smugglers turn their attention

to the people they traffic. Migrants who don't pay are often

subjected to violence. It is unclear how many

migrants got onto trucks. But with their job done,

the smugglers disappear Another load of

branches and trees... The attacks are constant and spread

out over a wide area. The French police are on patrol,

and search motorway An estimated 9,000 migrants

are now in Calais. The city's deputy mayor believes

the police need assistance It would be hypocritical for me

to say, no, nothing happens I've faced it several,

several times. And what is the French

government doing? Travelling on Calais's roads

at night is running the gauntlet, armed, masked people

smugglers and migrants often Police in Surrey say they're

"extremely concerned" about a possible child

abduction, in Redhill. A witness has reported seeing

a boy - thought to be about six or seven -

being taken into a van A bike, believed to belong

to the child, was left at the scene. Nearly 200 people have been arrested

in the first three months after a blanket ban on so-called

"legal highs" came into That's according to figures

uncovered by BBC Radio 5 Live. The legislation made it an offence

to produce or supply the substances, which can mimic the effects

of drugs such as cocaine, Our home affairs correspondent,

Danny Shaw, reports. They used to be known as legal

highs, synthetic substances which mimic the effects of illegal

drugs such as cannabis. But as their popularity grew, so did

concerns about their safety. So in May, the production

and supply of legal highs Since those powers came into force,

under the Psychoactive Substances Act, police across Britain have

made 186 arrests. More than 300 retailers have stopped

selling the newly banned drugs and 24 head shops which sell drugs

paraphernalia, have closed down. The new measures have led

to a clamp-down on nitrous oxide, In London alone, almost 14,000

canisters have been seized. It's all evidence, say police,

that the ban is beginning to work. Drugs experts say it has deterred

casual users and sent out a message that the new substances,

formerly legal highs, can be harmful but they say

that hardened users, including some homeless

users and prisoners, are still taking the drugs

and they're now being sold by street dealers alongside cannabis,

cocaine and heroin. Police in Brazil have charged

the American swimmer, Ryan Lochte, The 12-time Olympic medallist had

claimed that he and three team-mates were robbed at gunpoint

during the Rio Games, but later apologised

and admitted he was drunk. The crime faces a maximum penalty

of 18 months in prison and the 32-year-old could be tried

in his absence if he A bomb has gone off outside a police

headquarters building At least eight people

have been killed - and more than 78 people

have been wounded. The attack - in Cizre -

has been blamed on Kurdish The US Secretary of State John Kerry

is meeting Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Geneva later,

to try to broker a temporary ceasefire

in the Syrian city of Aleppo. The city has seen intense fighting

between government forces and rebels and at least a quarter of a million

people are believed to be trapped Jeremy Corbyn and the man bidding

to replace him as Labour leader, Owen Smith, have clashed over the EU

referendum at the party's latest Speaking during a sometimes

ill-tempered debate in Glasgow, Owen Smith warned that the party

could split unless Mr Corbyn was replaced and questioned his

opponent's commitment Owen, I thought we'd grown up

and we were no longer going to use those kinds

of questions and remarks. I'm still wondering why you haven't

answered my direct questions Owen, you know perfectly well

the answer that I voted Remain and I'm surprised and actually quite

disappointed that you should Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson has

been named the world's According to the latest

Forbes Rich List - the former wrestler snatched

the title from Robert Downey Junior, who had held the top spot

for three consecutive years. The 44-year-old actor earned

?48.8 million in the last year. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9:30am. And lots. Lots of people surprised

about that last story. -- thank you very much.

Bit of surprise from me on that one, as well. We will talk about the

Europa League draw later. After the Champions League draw yesterday

Manchester United and Southampton will find out who they will meet

today in the group stages this season. After moving to their new

home at the Olympic Stadium West Ham had been hoping to join them.

Unfortunately their European campaign is already over for the

second successive season they've been knocked out in the qualifying

play-off stages by Astra Giurgiu. They lost 1-0 last night,

so Slaven Bilic's side went out 2-1 on aggregate to a chorus of boos

from their fans. A lot of positivity at West Ham, but

their fans would have liked to have seen them in the Europa League this

season. Hull City footballer Jake Livermore

says his positive test for cocaine was the wake up call he needed

to start to come to terms The 26-year-old failed a drugs test

in May 2015, almost a year after his newborn son

Jake Junior had passed away. He avoided a ban from football

but says being caught The drugs were irrelevant, the drugs

weren't the problem. You know, something needed to be

done and to be honest, That was my get out

of jail free card. That was, you know,

this kid needs help. You can see more of that

tomorrow on Football Focus - And just before we go the England

and Wales Cricket Board have announced the side will travel

to Bangladesh for their after One of their Test matches will take

place in Dhaka, where 20 hostages died when a cafe

was attacked in July. More sport later.

Just one more thing, it was the Champions League draw yesterday, the

Europa League draw today, one English team not in it, though.

Yeah, West Ham way to be there, but the Champions League draw was

interesting for some of the British sides. Manchester City and Celtic

were drawn in the same group. They will meet the Spanish giants

Barcelona. You can see the full draw on the BBC sport website.

I think you were also going to tell me something about footballers and

lavish lifestyles? Big surprise. We just spoke about Jake Livermore,

we saw the clip, remember Football Focus on BBC One at midday tomorrow.

He was caught taking cocaine. He feels that being court saved his

career because he hadn't faced up to the death of his son.

Did you feel under pressure to exercise while you were pregnant? If

you did, do get in touch. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - use the hashtag #VictoriaLive

and if you text, you will be charged Figures obtained by this Programme

show the number of under-18s detained under terror laws

while coming in or out of the country, has more

than tripled over two years. UK police have legal powers

at airports to question and search people as part of schedule seven

of the terrorism Act. Last year 46 young people

were detained under this law. Our Reporter Divya Talwar

can tell us more. People might not have even heard

about schedule seven. Well many people have

probably never heard of it. They might be surprised that it is

pretty powerful legislation to help stop potential terrorists getting

into the UK. It gives the police special powers to stop, search,

question and detain anybody who comes in and out of the country.

They can do it at an airport, or an international rail terminal. The

purpose is to figure out if the person they stopped could

potentially be involved in terrorist activity. What's different,

concurred to police powers when they stop and search you on the streets,

under this legislation they don't need to have any reasonable

suspicion to be able to stop you. -- compared to police powers.

When somebody is stopped, do they know they are being stopped under

this piece of legislation? A lot of people listening to this

probably think I've been questioned and searched so many times at the

airport. You would have been questioned by a police officer. In

theory you are meant to get one of these, which is basically a leaflet

which tells you your rights and what you can expect. It covers the three

main powers the police have. First, they can question and detain you up

to six hours. Second, they can search you and any of your things,

including your mobile phone, laptops. If you have a password and

you were asked you have to tell the officer what it is. Third, if you

watch any of those police and shows on the TV you would have heard the

popular phrase right to remain silent. Under schedule seven you

don't have that right. If you are questioned and you refuse to answer

you could be looking at a possible prosecution.

How widely are the powers being used?

The latest figures show that in the year ending March this year more

than 1800 people were detained under these powers. Separate figures we've

been able to get through freedom of information requests, show the

number of under 18 is being detained has gone up quite significantly.

Last year, that number was 46, compared to 2013 when that number

was 13. Over that period the number has gone up by more than three

times. Do we know why, crucially?

We know a number of young people have gone out to Syria, Iraq, to

support and possibly even fight for jihadists organisations. There was

that high profile case of the schoolgirls in Bethnal Green last

year. It might be explained by the fact that police officers are trying

to stop more young people travelling out of the country, they might be on

their own, in a bid to prevent them going to Syria and, let's say, join

IS. We know these powers have stopped some young people going to

Syria. And the criticism of this

legislation is what? There has been a number of

controversial cases where British citizens have been detained. They

say they've been racially profiled and discriminated. You probably also

remember that high profile case involving David Miranda. He was the

partner of the Guardian journalist. He was detained for several hours.

He was later released without charge. In a nutshell, schedule

seven is controversial because the powers are so broad. You are more

likely to be stopped and searched if you are black or Asian. Our figures

show if you were under 18 and you are an Asian person you are six

times more likely to be stopped and if you are white. For all of these

reasons there is a number of court cases going through the courts to

challenge this legislation currently.

Thanks very much. Let's speak now to Ahmed Ali,

who has been stopped under Schedule David Anderson QC is

the Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation,

who says Schedule seven Manraj Othi, doesn't mind

being searched if it means we can prevent

a potential terrorist attack. And Sabah Choudary's under-18

relative has been stopped under schedule seven and has

been stopped herself. Let's turn to Ahmed, you have been

stopped so many times. Explain some of those instances if you can. I've

been stopped over 30 times now. David Anderson knows my cases. He is

speaking to my solicitor. He knows about my incidents. My most horrific

incident was when I was taken off a flight with my wife. Once we had

boarded the plane, we were in the holiday mode, that was one of my

worst incidents. Twice I was stopped with my children with me, even

though they were not stopped, but obviously they had to wait for me.

Once they had to wait for me for nearly three hours. Once it was

about 45 minutes. It's been quite traumatic for me. And this is when

you are, doing what, going on holiday, passing through an airport,

what has been the situation? Holiday or business. I do a lot of business

in Europe. I buy and sell goods and materials. I'm always travelling. I

am a frequent flyer. I'm always getting stopped. I'm always asking

my MPs have written to the police to find out why. My solicitors have

written to find out why. No explanation. Even when I get

stopped. They don't seem to know that I've been stopped before. Sorry

to interrupt. Presumably, when you are stopped, or certainly the first

few times this was happening, did you say to them, why do you want to

talk to me, what you want to ask me? And when you ask, what was the

response? They just said we need to do checks. Every single time that

we've spoken they have patted me on the back, shook my hand, but when

they took me off the flight with my wife I took a stand from there. I

didn't realise how many times they have stopped me until I wrote an

account for my solicitor. Once I have done I really felt horrible. I

felt I had been bullied. I totally sort of forgot. I was always putting

it at the back of my head. But, you know, it's really bad. I'm just

lucky I'm in my 30s. I know of younger people who feel vilified,

and harassed. This is going to put young children, especially young

teens, and people in their 20s, in this situation. You have younger

relatives who have had knocked a similar experiences, explain what

some of your relatives have gone through. A cousin of mine from the

West Midlands was stopped and questioned. This was about two years

ago. She was aged 14 or 15 at the time. The family members were

questioned individually. They were on their away to Turkey. She was

asked various questions, why are you going to Turkey, what is your

purpose of travel? And also really quite odd questions. For example,

were your parents -- will your parents make you have an arranged

marriage? Will your parents allow you to study at university? She was

confused, she was young, she didn't realise what was going on. It was

only afterwards when she spoke to her parents about it, and her

parents were quite shocked, and after that experience they are

hesitant to let her travel alone now. Was she travelling with

friends? No, with her parents. And you have a situation where you were

questioned. Not for as long, I think, but you were travelling

without your parents. That's correct. This was just my after

second year of university. Me and my friends were going on a beach

holiday to Turkey. We were stopped briefly by a police officer just

before boarding the plane. The three of us were the only ones stopped. We

were asked various questions, why were we travelling to Turkey, how we

knew each other, the purpose of our travel, and we had to prove that we

were going to fly back. We had to show our itinerary and prove we had

return flights booked. What did you and your friends think about that at

the time? At the time we were really quite humiliated because we were the

only ones who were stopped. It really dragged the mood down. For

me, it was my first time going on holiday without my parents and with

my friends. It really set a downer to the mood. On the one hand I

understand why schedule seven is there, particularly last year

because there were lots of cases of young girls travelling to Syria and

Iraq. But my opinion, speaking as a young Muslim woman who has been

stopped, I schedule seven, is that it is a pervasive and kind of all

penetrating power and arguable form of collective punishment that

stigmatises and effectively criminalises everyday Muslims,

particularly those who may follow orthodox Islamic frameworks. David

Anderson QC, do you have any sense that the legislation is broadbrush,

that young ladies, going on holiday, off to Turkey to lie on the beach,

are being caught up in something, that it is all encompassing, or do

you feel it is working as it should? It is a very strong power and has to

be sensitively used. But time glad we have a strong power at our

borders. It is not designed to punish anyone but to protect us. I

think the reason for stopping unaccompanied women travelling to

Turkey is fairly obvious. They might have thought maybe you are

travelling there to try and get into Syria. There are cases where girls

have been stopped at the airport and returned to their families. Who, it

can be proved, were heading out to join Isis. You would argue there are

specific cases where it has worked? It's not an argument, it's a fact.

It's not always easy to detect people coming back from Syria. There

was a case of a man who had been out in Syria, handling firearms and

making videos to encourage people to join him. He then faked his own

death and arranged for his cousin to pick him up in a car in Bulgaria so

they could get back into England. They were picked up at the border

and he's now in prison for 12 years. The schedule seven power allows

police to do things like that. I understand it must feel humiliating

if you are picked out of the queue. It's extremely important the police

use the in a sensitive way and don't just pick on people because of the

colour of their skin or just because they might look Muslim. The other

thing I would say if I made, if you feel that you've had the thick end

of this and haven't been properly treated, then complain. If the

police force aren't interested you can appeal to the Independent Police

Complaints Commission. Ahmed has got hold of a lawyer. There are things

you can do if you feel you've been badly treated. Ahmed I will come

back to you but I just want to hear a bit more from our guests here.

Debra on Twitter has just said "If racial profiling keeps us safe it is

an unfortunate fact of life". Are you talking about racial profiling?

You want the law to be implemented... I've done the

training with the police and the first thing they are taught is that

terrorists come in all shapes and sizes and in all colours. 30 years

ago people complained about schedule seven, it was the Irish who were

complaining. They said you are only picking on us because we have red

here. We are looking at a similar story here. People properly feel

sensitive about this. -- because we have red hair. Have you ever been

questioned passing through airports? As a brown man with a beard you are

used to the not so random random checks at airports. My view on it is

I don't mind being inconvenienced, if it's for the sake of keeping

everyone safe. If everyone is kept safe, I kept safe by them doing

their job. It is about the experience, with great power comes

great responsibility. If the training is correct, that example of

being called off a plane in front of your family, that's not a pleasant

experience. It can be done subtly, you can easily gauge whether someone

has ill intentions I think. If you do it in a tactful manner, you can

approach someone and go through the same questions without feeling on a

power trip or abusing your powers because you've had this training.

Implementation is all. I get the sense that everyone feels that.

We've had an anonymous text which says "This is a common-sense law, I

spend a lot of time in Beirut and Dubai, they didn't think twice about

stopping someone irrespective of the reason. I respect they want to

protect their people". Is it perhaps that this is still, this feels

relatively new to us in this country whereas this person is saying that

in some countries this has been happening for a very long time. You

did touch on the fact that you understand it but it's how it's

carried out. Yes. I feel that particularly post-911 there has been

a heightened sense that the Muslim community are essentially a

homogenised problem community, and this is something that is felt by a

lot of my family and friends. We have a running joke that every time

one of us goes on holiday the first question is not how was your

holiday, but where you stopped and how long were you stopped for? It

has become normal. It's become a given. Yes, for me that is the

issue. With schedule seven, it is unlawful for officers to use

someone's race, religion against them. A report by Liberty Stadium

that Asians are 42% more likely to be stopped by schedule seven --

Liberty stated that Asians are 42% more likely to be stopped. It is

bigger than the number in the population but it's not a random

stop. They are not allowed to stop people just because of the colour of

their skin or perceived religion. There is so much more we can discuss

on this. I appreciate your time. I suspect there may well be a lot more

comments to come on that so please do get in touch.

The GP who wrote an article to be read

after her death from cancer - warning fellow doctors of the

And three months on from the ban on legal highs -

police say hundreds of shops have stopped selling the drugs.

We look at the impact of the change in the law.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

The death toll from the Italian earthquake has risen to 267 -

and nearly have been 400 people injured.

Last night it was revealed that at least three Britons

Italy's Prime Minister has declared a state of emergency

There's been a strong aftershock this morning near the site

of Wednesday's devastating tremor - it's believed to have

Hour by hour the chances of finding anyone alive are diminishing fast.

Nevertheless they are continuing to search the rubble. We saw them all

day yesterday, they had spent all night the night before sifting

through rubble. It is dangerous work because after-shocks continue to

rock ground under which they are searching.

NHS services across England could be dramatically cut,

as part of wide-ranging efficiency plans seen by the BBC.

44 areas have been asked to draw up money-saving measures,

which include cuts to bed numbers and changes to care provided by GPs

NHS England says no changes will be made without local consultation

but health think tank the Nuffield Trust has warned

In a lot of these types of reconfigurations you don't save a

lot of money. The patients simply go to the next hospital down the road.

They have to travel further, but it rarely saves the money that is

needed. Motorists heading to and from Calais

are being warned to be extra vigilant as armed people smugglers

resort to increasingly violent Gangs have been spotted

using trees to block roads - causing traffic to stop -

and threatening drivers so they can get migrants on board

lorries more easily. The authorities in Calais say

the French army should be called in because the roads leading

to the port have become a "no-go zone" during one of the busiest

weekends of the year. Police in Surrey say they're

"extremely concerned" about a possible child

abduction, in Redhill. A witness has reported seeing

a boy - thought to be about six or seven -

being taken into a van A bike, believed to belong

to the child, was left at the scene. A bomb has gone off outside a police

headquarters building At least 11 people

have been killed - and more than 78 people

have been wounded. The attack - in Cizre -

has been blamed on Kurdish Nearly 200 people have been arrested

in the first three months after a blanket ban on drugs

formerly known as "legal highs" came That's according to figures

uncovered by BBC Radio 5 Live. The legislation made it an offence

to produce or supply the substances, which can mimic the effects

of illegal drugs such as cocaine, Police say hundreds of shops have

been stopped from selling them. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.00. In terms of that story about the

young boy, an apparent abduction in Surrey that we were hearing about,

police are giving us some details. We will get more on that from our

correspondent Keith Doyle in a while. We'll find out more about

that story coming through from Surrey Police.

Good morning. We are going to start with some changes just been

announced to the Champions League. The top four European leagues will

each have four guaranteed places in the group stages and changes

announced today by Uefa. The draw for the this season 's Europa League

will be taking place at midday today. Manchester United and

Southampton in the hat that one. West Ham are unfortunately knocked

out last night for the successive season.

After moving to their new home at the Olympic Stadium, West Ham had

But their European campaign is already over.

For the second successive season they were knocked out

in the qualifying play off stages by Romanian side Astra Giurgiu.

They lost 1-0 last night, so Slaven Bilic's side went out 2-1

on aggregate to a chorus of boos from their fans.

And just before we go the England and Wales Cricket Board have

announced the side will travel to Bangladesh for their after

One of their Test matches will take place in Dhaka, where 20

hostages died when a cafe was attacked in July.

Lewis Hamilton will try to limit the damage to his title hopes, he's

going to start towards the back of the grid for the Belgian Grand Prix

after he used more than the permitted number of engine parts

earlier in the season. First practice is now underway, follow it

on the BBC sport website. Will be back talking about the Olympics at

just after 10am. Let's turn our attention to the

situation in Syria. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei

Lavrov and US Secretary of State John Kerry are holding

talks in Geneva today over Just this morning we've had

thousands of people are to be allowed to leave the town of Darayya

which is a few miles from Damascus after a long siege by government

forces. That comes a day after news that Russia said it was ready for a

48-hour truce to allow aid supplies to get into cities including Aleppo.

John Kerry and Sergei Lavrov meet today in Geneva.

So let's discuss whether the two countries will be able to find a way

Peter Ford was the UK ambassador to Syria until 2006 and doesn't

believe the negotiations will be successful.

Via Skype we have two people on opposite sides of this conflict.

In Russia, Sergey Markov is a former Kremlin advisor who says his country

will continue to support the government regime.

And in Istanbul, Dr Yahya Alridi who wants the current government

He is the spokesperson for the High Negotiations Committee,

an allegiance of 34 Syrian opposition groups.

A very good morning to all of you. Peter Ford in Manchester, a broad

brush first of all, whether you have any optimism after all these years

of civil war, whether any more will come out of these talks in Geneva

today? Basically, no. I think there will be a minor breakthrough

regarding the establishment of a window for a ceasefire to allow in

humanitarian support. But for the longer term, I think this just

amounts to a sticking plaster and things will go on like this as long

as outsiders continue to support the Islamist rebels. Russia is so deeply

involved in this, I appreciate there are other players but Russia is such

a key part of this. They are an ally of President Assad. Is there any

more, after all these years, that could be done to put pressure on

Vladimir Putin, or is that the fundamental problem? Is there just

nothing that will change in the Russian approach?

Having come so far, the Russians will not go their man under the bus.

It is realistic of the Syrian Islamists to believe otherwise until

they realise that President Assad is now winning on the battlefield and

isn't going to be knocked off his perch through negotiations or

terrorist actions. The sooner the suffering of the Syrian people can

be brought to an end. Those who say President Assad must go doesn't

answer the question what would replace him? It is clear that what

would replace him would be an Islamist radical regime. This isn't

going to happen. We will put that point our guest in Istanbul in a

moment. I'd like to go to Moscow next. Does Vladimir Putin want the

suffering, the enormous suffering of the Syrian people of innocent men,

women and children, does he want that to continue? Millions of Syrian

citizens are suffering. Vladimir Putin is helping Paschall Assad. The

war is... -- is helping Bashar Al Asad.

Those who are really fighting, they are jihadists. Civilian people are

struggling because jihadis got support from Saudi Arabia. And

partly from the United States, Britain and Turkey. That's why the

suffering is continuing. INAUDIBLE

I think our webcam has frozen in Moscow. Sorry about that. I want to

speak with the spokesperson from the agency. Let's start with the point

Peter was making. -- HNC. Who would you like to replace him? This is

under a pretext that was presented by parties who are not willing, or

do not have the intention for doing any change, or creating any change

in Syria. They are dealing with a bloody conflict. The suffering of

the Syrian people continues. We had a case in Syria where there was a

battlefield with so many parties. All of them had conflicting

interests. What is good for one is poison to the other, as the saying

goes. The sufferers in all of this are the Syrian people who have had

their country destroyed. They are being displaced, scattered all over

the world. Half a million people are being killed. Almost a quarter of a

million are in Assad 's jails. And you have other groups who are

contributing to the killing of the Syrian people. Saying that the

conflict is not between Assad and the Syrian people, but between

extremists being supported by Saudi Arabia and others, that isn't the

case. For the first six months Syrian people asked for freedom, a

change in their life, a little bit of corruption... All of these

little, simple and possible demands. Later on, they released certain

criminals from prison who had been there for years with extremist

views. Other people were released from Baghdad jails. They created

Isis with the help of outside powers. And there comes the

terrorism. Assad was portrayed as somebody who is in conflict with

terrorists. The Syrian people are being sidelined. This is the

propaganda that has been going on. The intelligence and the mind of

Syrian people... This has been going on for a long time... I want to put

your points to Peter Ford. I wonder if you have a response to some of

those points, and also a quick point about whether the best we might hope

for out of Geneva today is a movement towards longer ceasefires

in order to get humanitarian help through. The last speaker doesn't

answer the question. He could not deny that the people who would take

over power is the Assad regime -- if the Assad regime foul would be

Islamists. It isn't good enough just to put up men wearing suits to give

the impression that the moderates are in control on the opposition

side. It is the Islamists. I'm hopeful there can be a breathing

space arranged now with the talks. It is good that these two powers are

coming together. They are at a point of convergence. They want to

concentrate on the fight against Isis. They also want to work against

the Al-Qaeda leader franchise, which is the biggest of the rebel groups.

Even though this group have rebadged themselves, they were the Miz

reference, now they call themselves something else. -- a worthy al-Nusra

Front -- they were the al-Nusra Front. Thank you very much, we need

to leave it there. I apologise that we lost our former adviser in

Moscow. We will tell you what is coming up later in the programme.

Voting for the new leader of the Green Party closed yesterday.

We'll ask four party members what they think.

And about what might be next for the Green party.

NHS services across England could see sharp cuts as part of efficiency

measures. The BBC has seen the plans. It looks like more than 40

areas have been asked to outline possible cost-cutting measures which

could mean hospital closures and changes to GP and accident and

emergency departments. It sounds radical, what can you tell us? It is

part of a process which is under. 40 areas have been told to come up with

plans to make the best possible use of resources, efficiency savings,

because of the increasing demand for health care across the country and

there only being a certain amount of money to do it. The final plans will

be put out in October. It will all be approved by NHS England and

regulator, and then will be put out to consultation. But we are

beginning to see the outlines of some of these plans. The BBC has

seen some of them. The group 38 degrees has discovered some. It

means beds have been cut in hospitals and in accident and

emergency department being cut in one area. GP services under review.

This will be resisted by many. But managers have said that we need to

consolidate. We have talked in the last few weeks, haven't we?

Discussing the closure of accident and emergency departments. On the

surface it is and intuitive because people think, you cannot close my

local one, if something happens to be a need to get there as soon as

possible. But some managers are arguing, quality not quantity, we

might close a few, but we make those that exist much better, they would

argue. Is this the drift we are talking about? Yes. Better to

concentrate on fewer sites and actually do a top-class job there

rather than spread your resources to Sydney. NHS England say this is part

of the efficiency savings process which has always been talked about,

what is needed to reduce the finance gap by the year 2020. But local

campaigners will say, what does it mean for us? What do these cuts

mean? Are there enough local debates going on? Is there enough of a

chance to come back with an alternative view. We will learn more

by October when they are finalised. No doubt in local areas around

England there will be some opposition to them. We presumably

will continue the debate about better management of what we, I mean

we as a society, but what the NHS currently offers. How often do we

have stories and talk about bed blocking, for example? We hear it a

lot, that the social care system isn't integrated with our hospitals,

therefore people ready to leave hospital can't go because there

isn't the right care home facilities for them. And by definition they are

taking up valuable space. That debate is going to continue,

presumably. The head of NHS England who initiated this process has said

that is why the local health leaders have to sit with local council

leaders who run the budgets and work out what is the best way forward

with the money there is. A more joined up, collaborative approach to

try and end the bed blocking problem if there is a lack of social care.

That's all very well. Some will say it needs more money. The NHS,

although it has had money each year, not enough to keep up with demand,

not enough to keep up with the ageing population. Some people will

save that is what it is all about. We always talk about the NHS Budget

being ring fenced. But we as a country spends less comparatively

than a lot of other European countries. As a share of economic

output and national income, less than France and Germany. Some say we

get good value for that money. But we spend less than other leading

industrialised country on our health care system. Thank you very much.

Coming up: women keep fit while pregnant? We will be joined by a

leading professor and a former Olympian who has written a book

about how to do it safely. Could this, that looks hard. -- goodness.

We will be discussing that later on he was coming in who has very

recently given birth. Extraordinary. Let's catch up with the weather

prospects. Morning. Yesterday was a cloudy day for many.

That has all moved away. The rest of today is looking pretty good. It's

been a lovely start. There were some early thunderstorms towards the far

south-east but they have cleared away. Most places basking in lovely

late August sunshine. Thicker cloud in north-western Scotland. There

have been some heavy showers here. This has been captured by one of our

weather watchers in the Highlands. But towards the East of Scotland,

what a contrast. Patchy cloud, but it looks pretty good with the

sunshine. For the north-east of England, North Yorkshire, we have

seen a good start with plenty of sunshine. And I think sunshine will

be the order of the day for much of England and Wales. Light winds in

the far south. Patchy clouds in western areas. But it'll be fine and

dry away from the western side of Scotland. The eastern side of

Scotland should stay fine and dry, maybe 20 degrees towards the

Aberdeen area. You'll catch a shower in Northern Ireland, but there is

lot of sunshine to have. Not quite as humid as it has been across the

south-east but still very warm, maybe 27 degrees in a few places.

Humidity is lower. A decent afternoon further west, temperatures

in the low 20s. It stays quiet overnight. Light winds across

England and Wales. Low cloud, mist and fog in some places, even though

showers in the far north become few and far between. Temperatures around

12 degrees in towns and cities. More comfortable, particularly in the

South East with the low humidity, but still fairly warm, 17 degrees in

the London area. On Saturday there are some questions about the extent

of the rain. At the moment it looks that we will see showers drifting up

from the south. They will merge late in the afternoon. Some of the rain

could be heavy. Affecting the Midlands and southern central part

of England. It'll turn humid in the south-east corner. Saturday night

and Sunday, that rain looks like it'll work its way to the north.

There will be heavy rain to go with that. It looks like it'll pull into

the North Sea. Towards Sunday, looking straight forward, a day of

sunny spells and a scattering of showers. Temperatures between 18 and

19 in Glasgow, at 23, 24 in the London area. Looking pretty good

bank holiday Monday. Showers on the eastern side of England. Rain in the

North West of Scotland. In between, a lot of fine and dry weather.

Hello, I'm Jane Hill standing in for Victoria Derbyshire.

Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us,

Italy declares a state of emergency after the earthquake that's now

known to have killed 267 people and left 400 injured.

This is the scene live in Italy as the search continues

And it's now three months since so-called legal highs were banned -

the government says hundreds of shops no longer sell them -

but we hear a warning that the problem has simply moved

And working out - safely - while pregnant.

A leading professor and former Olympian has published a guide

Let's go to the BBC Newsroom for a summary of today's news.

The death toll from the Italian earthquake has risen to 267 -

and nearly have been 400 people injured.

Last night it was revealed that at least three Britons

Italy's Prime Minister has declared a state of emergency

There's been a strong aftershock this morning near the site

of Wednesday's devastating tremor - it's believed to have

NHS services across England could be dramatically cut,

as part of wide-ranging efficiency plans seen by the BBC.

44 areas have been asked to draw up money-saving measures,

which include cuts to bed numbers and changes to care provided by GPs

NHS England says no changes will be made without local consultation

but health think tank the Nuffield Trust has warned

In a lot of these types of reconfigurations you don't

The patients simply go to the next hospital down the road.

They have to travel further, but it rarely saves

Police in Surrey say they're taking reports

of a possible child abduction in Redhill "extremely seriously".

A witness has reported seeing a boy - thought to be

about six or seven - being taken into a van

A bike, believed to belong to the child, was left at the scene.

We'll be getting the latest from our correspondent in Redhill -

Motorists heading to and from Calais are being warned to be extra

vigilant as armed people smugglers resort to increasingly violent

Gangs have been spotted using trees to block roads -

causing traffic to stop - and threatening drivers so they can

get migrants on board lorries more easily.

The authorities in Calais say the French army should be called

in because the roads leading to the port have become a "no-go

zone" during one of the busiest weekends of the year.

A bomb has gone off outside a police headquarters building

Reports say at least 11 people have been killed -

The attack - in Cizre - has been blamed on Kurdish

The US Secretary of State John Kerry is meeting Russia's Foreign Minister

Sergei Lavrov in Geneva later, to try to broker

a temporary ceasefire in the Syrian city of Aleppo.

The city has seen intense fighting between government forces and rebels

and at least a quarter of a million people are believed to be trapped

Nearly 200 people have been arrested in the first three months

after a blanket ban on drugs formerly known as "legal highs" came

That's according to figures uncovered by BBC Radio 5 Live.

The legislation made it an offence to produce or supply the substances,

which can mimic the effects of drugs such as cocaine,

Police say hundreds of shops have been stopped from selling them.

Police in Brazil have charged the American swimmer, Ryan Lochte,

The 12-time Olympic medallist had claimed that he and three team-mates

were robbed at gunpoint during the Rio Games,

but later apologised and admitted he was drunk.

The crime faces a maximum penalty of 18 months in prison

and the 32-year-old could be tried in his absence if he

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30am.

We'll be talking more about the legal highs story that we mentioned

as well, coming up a little later. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - use the hashtag #VictoriaLive

and if you text, you will be charged With some very special guests I

think! Good morning, Jane. Well as you said earlier Jane,

we just can't get enough of talking about the Rio Olympics

because it was such a great success for Team GB -

and in particular our Track Cyclists - we're joined by three

of the victorious Women's Team Pursuit -

Elinor Barker, Katie Archibald and Joanna Rowsell Shand -

Laura Trott is missing but we will forgive her

as she did make a visit We just wanted to ask you, I'll

start with you Elinor, if the achievement has sunk in now you are

home? I haven't had much time to think about it. It feels a bit nice

to be back to normal life with normal people again. Katie, lots of

the athletes we've been speaking to spoke about this Rio bubble and not

really understanding what you had achieved until you got back home.

Was it the same for you? 100%. We walked through Heathrow Airport to

rows and rows of applause. I thought, you are going to get tired

because there's a lot of medallists on this plane! Completely bizarre.

You've never experienced anything like this, what was it like back

home? I've been home, had a Chinese takeaway last night. LAUGHTER

Sitting on the sofa, feeling a bit ordinary. Joanna, can we talk about

the actual sport. Can we hark back to the build-up to the Olympic Games

and the World Championships. Team GB on the track received a lot of

criticism at the World Championships, we heard stories

about old equipment being used, a ploy to get sure main rivals to

think you weren't as strong as you were going to be at Rio? Definitely.

We save the good kit for the Olympics. The helmets for example,

we last wore those four years ago in London. Every big competition we go

to, we say give us the Olympic helmets and they say no. We only

bring up the good stuff once every four years. If we can cut a good

result at the World Championships on what is comparatively training kit I

suppose, that's always a good sign. In 2012 we won the World

Championships on the training kit. This year we got a bronze. There was

a bit of criticism but I think we knew that it was all still to play

for. We enjoyed the limelight and enjoyed the pressure going to be

Olympics as the world champions. We knew we had work to do and a few

things up our sleeve. Elinor, a lot has been said about the funding for

track cycling, a lot of money going into the system. Does it currently

work as it is or some the sports further down who don't get as many

medals as you should be given a bigger portion of lottery funding?

I've never been asked that before. I know cycling is an expensive sport.

If we had a funding cut it would take a big hit. We take two or three

bikes to a training camp. We rely on a lot of funding. The innovation

that goes into the kit takes quite a lot of funding as well. It's a

medals -based system. The analysis of where you come from at the start,

and the cycle of we've had success so be get the funding, which brings

more success. I think people in offices are having these discussions

and we have been fortunate with the support we've had from lottery

funding. Joanna, we wanted to end with you. You appeared alongside

Clare Balding and Sir Chris Hoy doing some summarising for the BBC.

It was very well received your analysis, is up something you see

for the future? Maybe. It was surprising to have so many positive

comments. I've never had such an overwhelming response. I'm not sure

what it was I did so well this time. I really enjoyed it and it was nice

to give that sort of insight on how good some performances are. A lot of

people see us winning gold medals, and a new personal best, and really

highlight how good some of the performances are along the way. The

next Olympics. Are you planning to stay together or do you see

yourselves moving away from cycling before then? We go a bit as separate

ways that the next year or so. There's so much more to cycling than

just track cycling, there's the road cycling as well. Coming back for

Tokyo would be nice. Congratulations again for the medals that she won in

Rio. That's all the sport for now. More now on our top story -

the Italian earthquake - and an official in the Italian town

of Amatrice says three British On the line is Nick Squires

a correspondent for the Telegraph is in Reiti around 40

miles from Amatrice. The town at the epicentre that we

keep talking about. Talk is through your experiences and what you've

been seeing and what people have been saying to you. Good morning.

I've been in the earthquake zone since early on Wednesday, since

about 8am in the morning on Wednesday. I've seen all of the

villages and towns that have been hit hardest by the earthquake. I'm

sure it's been said before but they really do resemble either a

Hollywood disaster movie or some sort of scene from a war. Houses and

hotels and shops are completely flattened. They've been reduced of

rubble. There's bits of twisted metal, bits of timber sticking up in

the air. You have some very traumatised locals still in the

area. People are sleeping in encampments put up by the emergency

services. Meanwhile the rescue work goes on around the clock. Firemen,

police and the Army have been working all last night. As they

burrow into the rubble to try and look for survivors, we keep getting

these after-shocks. There have been something like 400 after-shocks in

the last couple of days. Some of which you don't feel but this

morning I felt a very big one, four .8 magnitude at 6:30am. It brought

down some buildings in Amatrice. I believe you are on your way to a

hospital. What specifically are you going there for? I'm in the town of

Rieti. I'm outside the town's hospital. Inside there aren't two

British tourists who were injured in the earthquake. A man and a wife we

believe. They were staying in a small hamlet outside the devastated

town of Amatrice when the earthquake hit. We understand that three

British people were killed. We are trying to verify that with the

British Embassy in Rome. Thank you very much. We must let you go. Nick

Squires is a correspondent for the Telegraph in the region. We'll keep

you up to date if we get any more information about that. We will also

be talking about that news coming through from Surrey Police, what

appears to be an abduction of a young boy, being put into a van.

Let's speak to Keith Doyle who joins me from Redhill. What is being said?

Good morning. This is a very unusual situation in that we've had a huge

police search taking place overnight and this morning for a missing boy,

but no reports of a missing child. What we know is that just behind me

on the bend in the road, at 4:45pm yesterday, a member of the public

reported seeing a child being bundled into a black van. The child

is between six and seven, a boy, white, around four foot high wearing

a red T-shirt and navy jeans. He left behind a mountain bike and we

have a picture of that. This was left behind at the scene. Police are

obviously wanting to know if anyone recognises this bike. There have

been no reports of a missing child. The black transporter Volkswagen had

a side door on it and windows blacked out, or no back windows at

all. That Fran had three alloy wheels but the front nearside one

was missing -- that van. It also had alloy side bars on the side. Police

have issued this picture of the van. This particular van has been ruled

out but it is a van similar to this. It is right by Redhill Station, if

anyone was there between 430 or 5pm yesterday afternoon, or indeed if

they recognise the bike. Or if they can relate to the story, there could

well be an innocent explanation. A huge police search has been going

on, a helicopter and a large number of officers out. No child has yet

been reported missing. Thank you. Nearly 200 people have been arrested

in the first three months since a blanket ban on drugs

formerly known as "legal highs" came Police say that hundreds

of shops have been stopped The legislation made it an offence

to produce or supply any substances which produce similar effects

to illegal drugs - so that's anything which creates

a psychoactive response, A lot of people, especially

around my age, think they don't really want a criminal record,

so the easy way to go about it and still, like, get, sort of, high,

is to get these legal highs. It is an increasing problem,

especially with the youth. The main problem is that people

really have no idea what it is... He was getting in trouble

with the police. He ended up in hospital

two or three times. 50 yards away, he could

get legal highs. The main danger of nitrous oxide

is a lack of oxygen. What that can lead to is what's

called hypoxia, which can damage the brain, it can also

cause heart problems, rhythm problems and,

if you have a pre-existing heart condition, it can

lead to a heart attack. With me is Jeremy Sare

from the Angelus Foundation which raises awareness of and warns

against the dangers of legal highs - and in Bristol we're joined

by Danny Cushlick from Transform, a think tank that campaigns

for the legal regulation of drugs The best figures we've heard for the

first three months, what does that say to you about this this -- about

this legislation? It has been encouragingly effective so far. --

the arrest figures. The high street have compelled to stop trading. That

has got to be a good thing. Everybody should agree with that.

The arrests show that the enforcement authorities are taking

it seriously. But I would prefer a figure like half a million young

people are being educated about legal highs rather than so many

arrests. That's interesting. There is still a lot more education to do,

is that what you are suggesting by that? Yeah, this announcement, it is

welcome to see it as having an impact, particularly online, but we

have a drug strategy which covers not just enforcement, but treatment,

education and prevention. I don't know if we are seeing that reflected

in the overall measures against these what we legal highs. Danny, is

this working, this legislation, in your opinion? I've got to agree with

Jeremy. The issue is about protecting the health of people who

continue to use, and education is massively important. The problem

here is that the formerly legal highs market was actually created by

the prohibition of traditional drugs like ecstasy, cocaine, and magic

mushroom. That was caused by the prohibition. Now we're using another

prohibition to get rid of the physical sales of these drugs. But

they are still around. People are still using them. People stockpiled

them before the ban came in. And now they are being sold illegally by

criminal dealers on the Internet. It doesn't actually deal with the

problem. As Jeremy says, it doesn't deal with the problem of health.

What it does is get rid of a visible PR problem. This is a PR stunt more

than anything because it doesn't deal with the fundamental problem of

dealing with people's health. Has it actually driven the problem

underground, Jeremy? If people really want to use them somehow they

will find them, particularly as Danny suggests, on the dark web,

that sort of thing. I think people will seek out to find them and they

will get them. The market was mainly driven by the legality and

availability. The substances, if they were high-pressure low risk

then you would expect on the dark net they would be sold alongside

cannabis and ecstasy. But they are not. There isn't a demand for those

who want to buy what they like. Do you think that's right, Danny, that

they are not necessarily available in the way we might think? The point

here, as I said, the market was created by the prohibition of

traditional drugs. What we need to do is look at on doing that

unintended consequence. That means going back and looking at the legal

regulation of more benign and better-known substances that clearly

cause less harm and that people understand, rather than order

molecules that have been produced in China. What this is about is about

taking a step back and rather than applying again and again a failed

bank, a failed prohibition, that creates the same problems that

prohibition of alcohol did in America in the early 20s. We should

be looking at the more benign, the drugs that we know best, those which

have been used for hundreds of years, like cannabis, and actually

allow these to be sold to people over the age of 18 by a licensed

vendor with a health and safety warning on and on ingredients guide.

It actually that will keep people safe. In the Netherlands where they

have a copy shop system for cannabis and they have decriminalised the

possession of other drugs, they don't have a problem with legal

highs. I feel as if people will be listening to you, particularly when

you talk about cannabis, saying it isn't benign. We know cannabis is

getting stronger. We know it can cause mental health problems when it

is used for an extended period of time. All sorts of social problems

have been created by it. It can lead onto other things. That is why there

is the prohibition you talk about that doesn't stop people using it.

The issue here is about protecting public health. Particularly people

who continue to use, particularly young and vulnerable people. The ban

on cannabis, cocaine, ecstasy hasn't stopped enough people using. There

are millions of people who use cannabis all the time, despite the

fact it is strong and has risks associated with it, they are using

it, buying it from people who are not licensed, where there is no

ingredients list, no purity guide, no opportunity for people to access

the kind of education Jeremy was talking about. That is just wrong.

The government is looking at a PR. It is looking at propaganda, it

seizures and arrests to show how they are protecting people, but they

are actually not, they are putting people in more harm. Thanks very

much to both of you. Never enough time to discuss that conjugated

issue. Thank you very much indeed. Let's just go back now to the story

we covered earlier this morning - our debate about the rising numbers

of children detained This story comes from figures

the BBC has exclusively obtained. Well we've had quite

a few responses from you. Margaret on text -

When the young girls who went to join Islamic state supposedly

without their parents' knowledge there was a huge outcry

because the authorities had Anon on text - The terror law

needs to be changed. I am a white male who often

travels on my own. Graham on text - Schedule seven

is designed to protect all of our society -

no one should be concerned Lots of responses, sorry I cannot

get through them all. Thank you if you did get in touch.

We've also had a response from the Home Office.

A GP and mother of two who died of cancer after being misdiagnosed

for two years has written a posthumous article warning

doctors of the dangers of "superhuman" workload.

Dr Lisa Steen, died in February from a rare kidney disease that

physicians initially diagnosed as psychiatric problems.

In her online blog, as well as the workload issue,

she also warned health care professionals about the dangers

of being left in the "medical wilderness" by refusing

In a moment, we'll talk to her husband who gave permission

for the blog to be published by the British Medical Journal,

where she says: We are trained to keep going,

That was just some of what Lisa wrote. That blog has been published

posthumously. Raymond Brown, Lisa's husband,

joins me now from our Very good of you to speak to us on

the BBC this morning. Why particularly did you and Lisa want

this blog, her diary, her thoughts to be published? What awareness is

she trying to raise? Lisa found herself with an unexplained medical

condition over about two years. Seemed to come up against brick

walls all the time she went to her doctors to find out what was going

on. She used to hit the books every night herself trying to work out

what was wrong with her with this myriad of symptoms that she couldn't

understand. She felt that when she went to her doctors it confused the

issue, the fact she was a doctor, too. And who was leading the hunt

for the diagnosis, really. Also, the attitude that she felt that doctors

cannot be ill, the them and us situation, the doctor and the

patient. Even a highly qualified Doctor like Lisa couldn't be

diagnosed over two years. And when we did eventually get the diagnosis

it was quite shocking because the cancer had spread all over her body,

in her bones, and it was too late by then. She just wants to highlight

the fact that there can be confusion when doctors are treating doctors.

And maybe something can be changed. And how that attitude is portrayed,

and how the doctor looks at another doctor. How did she feel about that

emotionally? From an emotional perspective she had given her entire

career to the NHS, she had done all of those years of training you have

to go through to become a doctor, she worked in a busy hospital, and

yet she was let down by the system that she had given so much time and

passion to, what did she say to you about that? She was very angry, very

frustrated. She felt she wasn't being listened to. She described it

as being like a goldfish opening its mouth and sort of not being heard.

This seemed to happen over and over again. It wasn't as if she hadn't

tried. She was going to the doctor all the time. She tried various

diagnoses she thought might be the cause of it. She went privately for

tests. You cannot be an expert in and everything. She relied on the

other doctors to treat her when she was ill. This wasn't happening. It

was a hellish two years trying to work out what was going on for her.

And it almost came as a relief to her in the end that she was actually

diagnosed. Sadly it was cancer and it was terminal and she was given

two years to live, which turned out to be the case. Do your children ask

questions about that? Do they say, but mummy was a doctor? Some

children might even think a doctor can diagnose themselves. How has it

impacted on them? How has it impacted on them? They

have been devastated by it. Lisa was an incredible mother and a beautiful

and intelligent woman. Hundreds of her patients have paid tribute to

her. The children are resilient. We are just trying to survive. They do

ask questions about it and they obviously overheard what was going

on and they just felt angry with the doctors, really. For not helping

their mother. Raymond Brown, we wish you the very best as a family. We

know it's only six months since Lisa died and we are very grateful you

were able to talk to us. We'll catch up with a summary of the

latest news this morning. The death toll from the Italian

earthquake has risen to 267 - and nearly have been

400 people injured. Last night it was revealed that

at least three Britons Italy's Prime Minister has declared

a state of emergency There's been a strong aftershock

this morning near the site of Wednesday's devastating tremor -

it's believed to have NHS services across England

could be dramatically cut, as part of wide-ranging efficiency

plans seen by the BBC. 44 areas have been asked to draw up

money-saving measures, which include cuts to bed numbers

and changes to care provided by GPs NHS England says no changes will be

made without local consultation but health think tank

the Nuffield Trust has warned Police in Surrey say

they're taking reports of a possible child abduction

in Redhill "extremely seriously". A witness has reported seeing

a boy - thought to be about six or seven -

being taken into a van A bike, believed to belong

to the child, was left at the scene. Figures obtained by this Programme

show the number of under-18s detained under terror laws

while coming in or out of the country, has more

than tripled over two years. UK police have legal powers

at airports to question and search people as part of schedule seven

of the terrorism Act. Last year 46 young people

were detained under this law. The Home Office says it is vital

that the police have the powers That's a summary of the latest news,

join me for BBC Newsroom Do you have someone else special

with you again? It's another Olympic mad day in the BBC sports centre but

I have a rather special young lady with me now, the gymnast Amy Tinkler

was the youngest member of Team GB at the Olympics and you won a bronze

medal on the floor. We are going to ask you some questions but I just

want to show everyone in this clip because quite clearly you were

destined for greatness at a young age. We're going to walk along the

beam? Yeah. And do handstands? Cartwheels? The splits? The splits!

Slightly embarrassing for you, was it your family who first got you

into gymnastics? My parents were friends of my coaches so it seemed

natural to go along to sessions. I was in the elite squad by the age of

five or six. We can see you there at the Rio Olympics there as well. Do

you understand the enormity of what you have achieved? To be honest it

hasn't really sunk in. Pretty crazy. I'm trying to die just everything

that happened. I didn't even expect to make a final never mind a medal.

It's pretty crazy. Can you remember watching the London games? Did you

ever think you would be at Rio competing and winning a medal? I got

the opportunity to watch the final in London which was incredible. I

wanted to be up there competing one day. But at no point did I expect I

would ever get an Olympic medal. What was your experience like in

Rio? It must have been daunting surrounded by so many big stars. It

was overwhelming. Going up there and competing with them, it was amazing

to share a podium with them. It was just amazing. I wanted to ask you

about Max Whitlock, he took gold on the floor in the men's event. Did

you speak to him, did you get any advice? I got the opportunity to go

and watch him in his finals, he's such an inspiration and a lovely

guy. Just before the competition he said good luck and go and enjoy it.

You've earned this opportunity so just take it. More congratulations

are in order, you've just got your GCSE results, you've done well so

congratulations for that. What was it like combining the two? It was

pretty difficult. Balancing 31 hours of training a week alongside

schoolwork is always going to be hard. My school and gym club just

worked together. I spent my GCSEs over three years. It's just getting

that balance. It's OK. And A-levels to come now. Will they be your main

focus rather than sport in the next couple of years? I think just

carrying on with what I've been doing, training still will be a big

part of my life. I've got the Commonwealth Games in two years'

time and Tokyo in 2020. At the same time I would love to go to

university so I've got to keep working hard at both. What do you

think about the Tokyo games, is it your goal to win a gold medal on the

floor? Simone Biles is looking like the next huge superstar of

gymnastics. Tokyo is my main aim currently. Getting a gold medal is

pretty hard. You are always going to have America who are incredible and

gymnastics. They will always be fighting for one and two. Just got

to keep working hard and seeing what happens. Best of luck with the

future and congratulations for your bronze medal. That's all the sport

now. Over the last month,

members of the Green party have been voting to elect a new leader

to replace Natalie Bennett - who will stand down

after four years in office. The favourite, and the Green Party's

only MP - Caroline Lucas - is running on a joint leadership

ticket with the much less The result will be announced

at the Green Party conference With us in the studio

are four Green Party members who voted in the election,

Alex Powell, Adele Ward, Thank you, you're all very active so

you've all voted. I'm going to start by asking you who you voted for.

Image. To start with our voting system, it wasn't you vote for one

person and that's it. We did rank the candidates in order of

preference. I did that Caroline Lucas and Jonathan Bartley as my

first preference. I went for Caroline and Jonathan. Caroline and

Jonathan but even if it had just been Jonathan I would have voted for

Jonathan. He deserves to be higher profile. I voted for David Malone

but I only felt empowered to do that because operating system meant I

could still rank Caroline and John is my second preference. Perhaps we

are being very unfair starting off by saying he's not well known.

Explain why you think he would be the right person running along with

Caroline Lucas. It can seem like Caroline is the obvious choice but

Jonathan I've seen at hustings, he stood to try and be a male

candidate. He stood in for Sian Berry during the London may well

elections and he was good in hustings. I met him at a speed

dating event -- mayoral elections. Not to meet him, he's married! I've

followed him for some time, I think he's very good and it's wonderful

Caroline has given him this opportunity because he really

deserves to be a joint leader. Who ever emerges as the winner in a few

weeks' time, there might be people watching this to think, well,

environmental policies, even people who care about environmental

policies, they say actually what is the role of the Green Party now? Any

party can adopt environmental policies. You've been very active,

what is the point of the Green Party is what some people would say? I

think the climate change issue is embedded in every problem we've got

in the world. It's the underlying problem which we will have to face.

To appeal to a wider group of people it obviously touches upon issues of

social justice and how we fairly divide up what we have in the world.

I think in the Green Party's core idea of being a climate change party

has shifted in a natural way because the problem is embedded in

everything we do. When you say to friends you vote for the Green

Party, how many say that is a wasted vote because they are such a

minority? The fact we are a smaller group means our voice gets heard

more. Because maybe we stand out a bit more. And actually most of our

policies have been adopted by people like the Labour Party over the years

like renationalisation of the railways. We started off at

campaigning about fracking, for example, put that on the map. We

have to get our MP arrested but it brought it to the mainstream. Isn't

that part of the point, imaging, a lot of your policies have been

adopted by other mainstream parties -- Imogen. Isn't that a problem for

the party to grow and get stronger? Every time for incidents in the

London elections we were coming up with policies that which people look

at and think that actually makes sense. It's then harder for the

larger parties to ignore those policies. The fact we have been

fighting an environmental policies since when the party was founded I

think is one reason why it is not acceptable for major parties not to

have environmental policies any more. We don't think there

environmental policies go far enough, we are still here, we are

fighting for what we believe is necessary. Alex, you used to be very

involved within the Labour Party and you've moved. Why so? Labour were

too centrist. I wasn't involved early enough to say it was due to

Tony Blair. I moved away from them and I wanted a more radical economic

agenda. One of the main reasons I'm in the Green Party, I care about the

environment but it's more to do with the economic and social policies. I

support universal Basic income, you can't talk about a right to life

without talking about a right to the means to attain life. You need to

give people the means to attain all basic necessities. We should be

supporting universal Basic income which allows people to do that. When

your new leader is chosen, do you want that lead to be more vocal

about precisely the sort of thing you've just outlined? As I've

suggested, people still think the Green Party, of course they care

about the environment but what else? Do you not need a leader who's going

to highlight you've just said. I think David Malone was because of

his economic focus. I think he can take us out of this single issue

image. It is untrue but that's how we've been portrayed. David Malone

has written a book on the financial collapse. He writes regularly on a

financial blog and his focus on the economy could derail this image that

we are a one issue party. Do any of you feel that Natalie Bennett

perhaps didn't get some of that message across, didn't manage to

shift the debate to what you're saying to remind people that as you

say, it's not a single issue party? Would you have liked her to be more

forceful on that score? It's difficult to be forceful about your

agenda when you have limited exposure as a smaller party on local

issues I found from my local party involvement, we are more likely to

get coverage on environmental issues. Even when we are also

talking about social issues. I voted for David Malone as second choice

because I believe that's also something that's very important for

the party. I voted for Caroline Lucas and Jonathan Bartley first

because I agree that Jonathan Bartley is a powerful speaker and so

is Caroline Lucas. They are both very good at representing us. When

you've got limited time for someone to represent us you've got to make

sure it's the best possible person. There is still only one MP, despite

the amount of votes the Green party got, you can advance that without

PR. We need electoral reform. It isn't just us. I think Labour need

electoral reform now they have lost Scotland. I would really like to see

Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Smith saying they would bring in electrical. On

that note we must leave it. Thank you very much. We will find out in

September. Thanks very much indeed for being with us.

The coastline around the British Isles is often lashed by big waves

and stormy seas with climate change offering the prospect of even more

severe weather in the future. Now a new project at

Plymouth University is looking to harness the power of those storms

to not only create electricity but also act as a coastal

defence at the same time. Storm Imogen hits the UK in February

and yet again our coast is under The damage can be dramatic

and devastating. Two years ago, the sea wall carrying

the main rail routes in and out of South West England was washed

away, leaving the track Severe weather is of course best

avoided, but what if you could harness the power of a storm

and turn it to your advantage? Well, that's exactly

what they can do here. Welcome to Plymouth University's

coast laboratory and wave generator. Here they can produce any wave

and generate any sea state. And in this scaled down,

controlled environment, The wave cat, designed

to float just off the coast, It's an overtopping wage energy

converter, and it's the work As the waves come in,

you can see the waves coming in, they get compressed

in the horizontal direction, And then they overtop

into the bucket, we simply drain the water out,

once we get enough water in there. So, it's almost like

a floating hydroelectric dam. The wave cat's design means it can

also ease the pressure stormy seas By extracting the energy,

to generate electricity, we are of course taking energy out

of the sea conditions, And so to do that, it means that

there's less of that wave energy So the wave farm itself can act

as part of the coastal defence system and help to protect

the coastline from those From these small beginnings James

can see a future where full-scale wave cats are arranged

around our coast, and we can From these small beginnings James

can see a future where full-scale wave cats are arranged

around our coast, and we can at least partially turn stormy

seas to our advantage. Nick Miller, BBC News,

Plymouth. A leading Professor and former

Olympian Greg Whyte, has released a new book called

'Bump It Up' - a guide for keeping This book tackles the little known

area of how to maintain healthy fitness levels leading up to,

during and post pregnancy. Many myths on pregnancy are also

tackled in this read and many mothers will learn what exercise

is right for them. Lets talk to Professor Greg Whyte,

Author of 'Bump It Up' and we can also talk to three women who have

who have had different different approaches

to exercise during pregnancy. They are Beki Gerrard,

Hannah Clarke and Emily Leary. Martha is four months old and very

well-behaved, long may that last. Thank you very much to all of you

for joining us. I will just start with the man, even though we are

talking about pregnancy, because your wife has had children. This

drives some of this. How did you get into this? Why did you decide, with

your wife I presume, that there was more room for discussion. We have

three children. When my wife was first pregnant exercise came up. My

immediate instinct was that there must be a book about it. Virtually

nothing on the book shelves. The worrying thing was we went on the

Internet and the Internet information is confusing. Sometimes

dangerous. That was the spark where I thought we need something out

there, there has to be something, resource where women can go to get

solid advice. And critically break some of those myths which surround

exercise and pregnancy. And to say that as long as you are feeling

healthy, you feel you can do it, it is something that is OK to do, is

that the essence? Physical activity is crucial for life and it is

important during pregnancy. It is about your journey, where you are,

what you can do, how you can cope with it. We should be encouraging

activity during pregnancy for the health of the mother and baby. Your

situation was that you were very happy to exercise during your first

pregnancy, but less so with Martha. Explain the pressures you found. In

my first pregnancy with my son Toby, who has just turned two, I was fit

and healthy, eight well, I ran through the pregnancy. Everything

was textbook. With Martha, from the beginning it was hard, so I had

worse sickness. -- ate well. I had migraines. I had pains. I was in a

lot of pain with my hips, pelvis and lower back. The instinct is to try

and rest as much as you can. I went to my midwife and then to physio.

Their advice was pretty similar, it was a case of where a support band

and don't overdo it. I had horror stories of people having to be

induced preterm because they couldn't physically cope with Labour

and things like that. I thought, I better not risk that. -- with

labour. I did what I could with a toddler. And in the end, this lady

decided to be 12 days late. It has been much harder to get back into

exercise after having her, as well. You are nodding. Torque us through

your experience. Is there much advice out there? -- talk. I have a

four-year-old and an eight-year-old. When you watch the film is about

pregnancy, have people are pregnant, they bloom, it's lovely, I found

pregnancy while both times. To be honest. Refreshing to hear somebody

be honest. I felt unbalanced, sick, unwieldy, I was really tired. I was

active, I walked to work, I worked quite late into my pregnancy, but I

felt like as long as I'm doing my best, being active, then there

should not be too much pressure on me to be down the gym. So I took it