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police enforcing a ban on burkinis have generated | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
media with people asking when will women be able | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
Today that ban is being challenged in the French courts | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
And we will have the latest on the rescue operation in Italy. And now | :01:26. | :01:38. | |
they are home, we will be talking to some Olympic medal winners. If you | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
Our main news - at least 247 people are now known to have died | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
in the earthquake which struck central Italy in the early | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
Hundreds more have been injured and it's feared dozens | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
Rescue teams are still searching for survivors in the rubble. | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
Hope is fading, despite the discovery of a young girl alive | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
In the light of day, the extent of the devastation | :02:01. | :02:07. | |
as local communities try to come to terms | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
with the enormous losses they have suffered. | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
All through the night in Amatrice, the search continued. | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
Rescuers used diggers and their bare hands to free people | :02:23. | :02:24. | |
They've promised to keep looking until they find all of those | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
Remarkable stories of survival offer hope. | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
This footage from the Italian emergency services shows two young | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
children being rescued from amongst the masonry in Amatrice. | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
And yesterday evening in the little village of Pescara del Tronto, | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
firefighters found ten-year-old Julia in the rubble. | :02:50. | :02:51. | |
There was applause as she was brought to safety. | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
has just been pulled out from the rubble | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
and she is being taken to hospital, and that is great news. | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
As far as the rest is concerned, the images speak for themselves. | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
You can see what the town looks like. | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
The clock on the 13th century tower in Amatrice stopped | :03:10. | :03:14. | |
when the earthquake started, just after 3.30 yesterday morning. | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
Now hundreds there have been left homeless. | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
Many spent last night in makeshift camps set up on the football pitch | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
and in the sports hall, somewhere to take shelter | :03:28. | :03:29. | |
from the night now that their houses have gone. | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
TRANSLATION: People are feeling they didn't expect this to happen. | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
Some are nervous and feeling desperate, as they have | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
lost everything, the work of an entire life, like those | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
And from one day to another, they discovered everything | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
Today, the desperate search for more survivors carries on. | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
Destruction caused in just seconds | :03:55. | :03:56. | |
that for some will never be repaired. | :03:57. | :04:04. | |
Our correspondent Jenny Hill is in Amatrice. | :04:05. | :04:11. | |
More than 24-hour since the earthquake, what is happening there? | :04:12. | :04:19. | |
The search and rescue operation is under way and you can see behind me | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
teams of rescue workers have been working through the night. It is a | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
difficult task will stop they do this at 20 sites across Amatrice. We | :04:29. | :04:36. | |
have spoken to the coordinator of the operation and he looks | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
exhausted. He talks about how difficult and dangerous the | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
operation is, bearing in mind how unstable the buildings are. This was | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
a confident and they believe there may be two people trapped inside. To | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
get to them they have to shift the rubble out of the way and at the | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
same time they have to contend with powerful after-shocks, which makes | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
it a dangerous task. We felt them this morning, they almost throw you | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
from your feet. A news agency reports there have been almost 400 | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
after-shocks or small earthquakes ever since the earthquake struck | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
yesterday morning. The latest is teams are working at 20 places | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
across the town of Amatrice, desperately searching for survivors. | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
They said in their assessment, this is now their top level of risk. A | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
really risky job they are doing, but they are hoping they will find | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
people. We have reports that somewhere in the historic heart of | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
the town, which is impossible to get to, somewhere there is a hotel where | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
something like 70 people may have been staying. That is where they are | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
trying to get to, to see if they can find survivors, but they think it is | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
unlikely anyone would be found alive, but they keep hoping. The | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
most striking thing about what is happening is the location. If you | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
look across, are part of Italy that is very popular with tourists. It is | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
known for its beauty, hillsides, mountains. It is easy to stand in | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
the grounds of what was once a confident and imagining people | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
taking in the view, going about their ordinary lives, admiring the | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
beauty that surrounds them and then you walk back and you look at the | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
devastation right in front of us. This town has been all but | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
destroyed. The mayor said three quarters of the buildings have gone. | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
The idea of starting to rebuild is right now almost inconceivable. | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
Thanks. We can catch up with the rest of the news. Good morning. | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
Lifeboat crews have been searching the water off Camber Sands | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
in East Sussex overnight after five people died | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
in the sea yesterday, the hottest day of the year. | :06:56. | :06:57. | |
Three of the bodies were recovered yesterday afternoon - | :06:58. | :06:59. | |
two others were found in the evening. | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
A member of the public reported seeing another body in the sea that | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
It's not known whether any of the deaths were linked | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
Our correspondent Duncan Kennedy is at Camber Sands for us now. | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
I understand there has been a police update in the last few minutes. | :07:19. | :07:26. | |
They have clarified the facts and figures that have come out. Some | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
confusion about numbers, who the men might have been. In the past hour, | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
Sussex Police came up with confirmation, first of all saying | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
they are starting to identify the five male victims and say there is | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
no evidence to suggest they were migrants, which has been speculation | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
yesterday. They say all five were not fully clothed. They were dressed | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
for going into the sea. There was speculation some were wearing | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
clothes and perhaps they were migrants but police say they were | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
dressed for going into the sea. They confirmed all five bodies recovered | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
were adult males. That confirmation came through in the past moments. | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
And the Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, the local MP, she tweeted saying | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
that her thoughts and prayers are with the families of these victims. | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
I wonder what the atmosphere is like today. The authorities are urging | :08:23. | :08:29. | |
people to use caution if they go into the water, but I wonder in the | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
wake of what happened yesterday, whether people will want to do that. | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
It is early in the morning, already 20 degrees. You might be able to see | :08:39. | :08:46. | |
families gathering behind me. It is such a lovely day and will be a | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
lovely day. They are getting in early with some bathing. It does not | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
seem to be deterring people so far. The local council said it is a safe | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
beach with miles of golden sand that gently goes out to sea, which is why | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
it is popular with families. There are three holiday camps who provide | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
people for this beach, some 25,000 were here yesterday stop the council | :09:10. | :09:16. | |
says we have had this tragedy. There was another tragedy involving a | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
Brazilian man last month, but the circumstances of the tragedies are | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
not linked and it is still safe for people to come here, they say. But | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
some councillors and local people say a lifeguard should be on | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
permanent duty. They used to be one, there isn't now. They say in the | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
light of this tragedy, that should be rectified. Thanks, Duncan | :09:39. | :09:39. | |
Kennedy. Police in Australia have charged | :09:40. | :09:40. | |
a 29-year-old French man with the murder of a | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
British backpacker. 21-year-old | :09:46. | :09:47. | |
Mia Ayliffe-Chung, from Derbyshire, was fatally stabbed at a hostel | :09:48. | :09:55. | |
in Queensland. A 30-year-old British man was also | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
critically injured in Police have named the suspect | :09:58. | :09:59. | |
as 29-year-old Smail Ayad. He's also charged with two counts | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
of attempted murder and 12 counts More than half a million | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
teenagers in England, Wales and Northern Ireland | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
are finding out their GCSE results For the first time, | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
they include tens of thousands who've had to resit English | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
and maths, having failed to get This is the last year before | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
the start of a major change in how GCSEs are graded in England and how | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
school performance is measured. The outgoing UK Independence Party | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
leader Nigel Farage has appeared at a rally for US presidential | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
candidate Donald Trump, urging Republicans to follow | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
the UK's lead in challenging voters for taking "control | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
of their destiny" by backing Brexit. Drawing parallels between the EU | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
referendum campaign and the upcoming US election, Mr Farage told | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
the audience to "go out and fight" against Democratic candidate Hillary | :10:53. | :10:54. | |
Clinton. If you want change in this country, | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
you better get your walking boots on, you better get out | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
there campaigning... And remember, and remember, | :11:03. | :11:04. | |
anything is possible if enough decent people are prepared to stand | :11:05. | :11:17. | |
up against the establishment. Social media companies are | :11:18. | :11:34. | |
consciously failing to prevent the promotion of terrorism according to | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
MPs. A report accused networks like Facebook, Twitter and Google of | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
becoming the vehicle of choice in spreading propaganda and recruiting | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
extremists. Our home affairs correspondent reports. | :11:48. | :11:56. | |
Anjem Choudary, Britain's most notorious preacher of hate. | :11:57. | :11:58. | |
He used social media to promote his extremism. | :11:59. | :12:00. | |
His trial heard how some companies didn't act on police requests | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
Now MPs from the home affairs Committee say giants like YouTube, | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
Facebook and Twitter are global recruitment | :12:08. | :12:08. | |
They are very powerful organisations, making | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
Therefore, they should devote more of their resources and time and more | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
When they see a preacher of hate espousing radicalisation, | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
But the companies completely disagree | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
Facebook says terrorists and their activity are not allowed | :12:32. | :12:37. | |
YouTube says it shuts down accounts and responds to legal requests | :12:38. | :12:45. | |
to remove content, and Twitter says it closed 360,000 | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
and has been praised by the US government. | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
Many experts say social media companies | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
were slow to understand how groups like IS use | :12:59. | :13:00. | |
But they're getting better at combating extremism, | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
Prince's private estate and studios are set to be opened to the public. | :13:04. | :13:18. | |
Daily tours of the Paisley Park complex in Minnesota are due | :13:19. | :13:20. | |
to start in October, six months after the singer's sudden | :13:21. | :13:23. | |
Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson, said opening the park was something | :13:24. | :13:30. | |
That is a summary of the news, more at 9:30am. | :13:31. | :13:42. | |
Let's catch up with the sport. England goalkeeper Joe Hart looks | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
like he has made his last appearance for Manchester City. | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
Why is Pep Guardiola letting him go? It must've been an emotional evening | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
for Joe Hart, who was made captain for the win over Steuer Bucharest, | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
which puts them in the Champions League group stages but it is | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
unlikely he will be with them for that. He will probably leave on | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
because Pep Guardiola wants exact passing from his goalkeeper and he | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
does not seem to think Joe Hart is up to it. He missed the first two | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
Premier League matches. He made his feelings shown to fans. Making clear | :14:20. | :14:27. | |
the night was special, he said so afterwards. He spoke about the | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
relationship between him and Pep Guardiola, saying we deal with it | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
like men, we will come up with a solution, but it is likely Joe Hart | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
will leave the club towards the end of the transfer window and we think | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
he could go on loan to Everton, it is widely reported. | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
More second round games in the EFL cup. | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
Any more upsets? After two upsets on Tuesday night there were another two | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
Premier League sides knocked out. Middlesbrough losing to full and the | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
fete was the same for Premier League side Burnley, who lost to Accrington | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
Stanley of League 2, the fourth tier of English football. The goal coming | :15:09. | :15:18. | |
from Matty Pearson, in extra time, a fantastic results. Their first win | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
over a Premier League side in what was their first meeting since 1893. | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
They are rewarded with a trip to face another Premier League side, | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
going to the Olympic Stadium to face West Ham. The results are on the | :15:33. | :15:33. | |
website. Abang talking about the Olympics | :15:34. | :15:41. | |
committee will be joined by some nerve medal winners, tell us who. | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
Lots of the athletes from Rio on their way back coming to speak to | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
us. We will speak to a few of the victorious women's hockey 's team, | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
the first in hockey at all since the men back in 1988, that winning | :16:00. | :16:06. | |
moment as you can see from Hannah Webb. An amazing achievement from | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
them, we will talk to them about all of that, how they feel the sport is | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
inspiring children back in the UK. We will also talk gymnastics, with | :16:16. | :16:26. | |
Max Whitlock. The first gold medal we have won in the all-around event. | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
I will be having some words with him. He has been playing around in | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
the office this morning, not very happy about this at all. Our health | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
and safety people were not informed about this. Max, I will have a word | :16:42. | :16:47. | |
with you, a serious place of business here at the BBC Sport | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
Centre, as you know, so I will be speaking to about that and all of | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
the effect he has had on the world of gymnastics as well. Thank you for | :16:55. | :17:04. | |
that. Let's show you what is happening in Italy, where they are | :17:05. | :17:07. | |
dealing with the aftermath of the devastating earthquake. 247 dead in | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
that earthquake. Horrendous images that show the devastation caused by | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
that quake just a little over 24 hours ago. This is the other area | :17:21. | :17:30. | |
worst affected is a tiny town just a little further away. These are the | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
two places, not the only two places affected, but the places where they | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
fear the largest number of dead. Still coming through the rubble, | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
hoping to find survivors. These are images that we have got from a drone | :17:46. | :17:53. | |
overflying the area. The picture just says it all, those rescue crews | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
have been working through the night. One person has said, has reminded | :18:00. | :18:07. | |
people who are hoping for some life to emerge from the rubble that in | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
the earthquake that hit Italy in 2009, which was a devastating | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
earthquake then, a survivor was still poor about 72 hours after the | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
quake hit, so they are trying to keep some hope alive of finding | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
survivors from the rubble. One young ten-year-old girl was pulled out | :18:28. | :18:28. | |
live from the rubble in Amatrice, where three quarters of | :18:29. | :18:44. | |
the buildings have been reduced to rubble after that quake. | :18:45. | :18:52. | |
The controversial issue of burkinis on French beaches is taken to court | :18:53. | :18:55. | |
This week pictures emerged of armed police forcing a woman on a beach | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
in Nice to partially undress for breaching the ban, | :19:00. | :19:01. | |
which was introduced by some mayors on beach clothes that - | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
quote - 'ostentatiously displays religious affiliation'. | :19:05. | :19:05. | |
The photos caused a huge debate on social media - with many | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
people highly critical of the French approach. | :19:09. | :19:10. | |
The French Prime Minister, Manuel Valls, has backed the ban - | :19:11. | :19:12. | |
saying it's not compatible with the country's values, | :19:13. | :19:14. | |
and describing the burkini as 'the expression of a political | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
project based on the enslavement of women'. | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
Well, today the highest administrative court in France | :19:22. | :19:23. | |
will look at the case - Hugh Schofield is in Cannes for us. | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
Just sort of talk through since the ban on how the debate has gone | :19:30. | :19:36. | |
there, and whether these latest pictures have affected the nature of | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
the debate. Yes, the ban is a municipal ban in 20 to 30 beach | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
towns along the Mediterranean coast and in the north, not a nationwide | :19:50. | :20:01. | |
thing, something this court will rule today. The debate in France is | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
polarised, but one has to say straightaway is that one doesn't | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
have this automatic sense of outrage across the country, which we have | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
seen in Britain, America and elsewhere, those pictures that we | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
were shown yesterday in British newspapers. Yes, there are many | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
people who say what a humiliation, how appalling. There are many people | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
saying how counter-productive, how it plays straight into the hands of | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
so-called Islamic State and so on by giving eight propaganda tool. These | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
images apparently showing policemen on a beach telling women to take | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
their clothes off. Apparently, we need to stress, apparently these are | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
images that we interpreting our own way, and the municipality in Nice | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
says they did not tell her to take her top off, she took it off to show | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
she had a Basingstoke Dunne bathing suit underneath. That picture in the | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
newspaper has romance really at this debate here. Though both sides heard | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
very loudly. One has to conclude by also pointing out that the majority | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
in polls after these limited temporary bans on Islamic beachwear | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
here in the south, and our experience speaking to people here | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
in Cannes is that there is a majority who agrees with what the | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
town hall has done. Person after person here, there we must state it | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
is a right-wing town with an overpopulation, person after person | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
says it is absolutely right, when in Rome, do as the Romans, more less. | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
What about the challenge by a civil rights group in court, is it | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
anticipated how that is likely to go? It is a very important moment | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
because even though it will be ruling on just one case. There are | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
between 20 and 30 towns that have instituted this order, this case is | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
being brought just against one town near here. But of course that would | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
be the precedent, and if the highest administrative court rules against | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
that town, that will affect all of these bands, which I have to say | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
again they are temporarily. -- all of these bans. It is not at all | :22:06. | :22:16. | |
evident which way this will go. The rights groups are saying this as | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
regulars, are we going to reach a situation where at some point soon | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
whole parts of towns are off-limits to women in Islamic dress. The | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
absurdity of the heart of this debate is something that I think | :22:30. | :22:35. | |
even supporters of the burkini ban admit to. There was a woman wearing | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
a full body covering on the beach, Islamic style, and technically as I | :22:41. | :22:43. | |
understand that she is breaching the law and the police could well | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
intervene here. If she walks up under the stairs onto the Esplanade, | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
where I am now, back within the law. It is that absurdity which I think | :22:53. | :22:55. | |
may well prove the downfall of these municipal decrees, which, as I say, | :22:56. | :23:02. | |
are in any case temporarily. It may well be that they say simply, I am | :23:03. | :23:05. | |
going to take a bit of time to think about this and by the time it rules, | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
they have all fallen into abeyance anyway. We will wait and see what | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
happens. Let's talk more about it. Letters know what you think as well. | :23:15. | :23:21. | |
Let's speak now to Rachid Nekka, a businessman who pays fines imposed | :23:22. | :23:24. | |
on Muslim women in France who wear Burkinis and niqabs. | :23:25. | :23:26. | |
Selsabil Beloued, a student who lives in Paris she wears | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
a Burkini and will continue to wear one. | :23:30. | :23:36. | |
Stefan De Vries, a French journalist based in Paris. | :23:37. | :23:38. | |
And in the studio here - Esmat Jeraj, a British | :23:39. | :23:40. | |
Selsabil you wear a bikini and you will carry on, that you think when | :23:41. | :23:53. | |
you see those pictures in Nice? It is sad. My first emotion was of | :23:54. | :24:01. | |
that. It is also humiliating for the woman to be forced to take off her | :24:02. | :24:05. | |
clothes in front of people. They were all staring. I think she did | :24:06. | :24:09. | |
that because she didn't want to be fined. And, yes, she thought if she | :24:10. | :24:20. | |
would take off her clothes, the policeman would go away, and they | :24:21. | :24:29. | |
did. Rashid, you pay fines imposed on women in France the growing | :24:30. | :24:37. | |
niqabs and burkinis. How many have you played? We have created a fund | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
of 1 million euros six years ago to pay all of the fines concerning the | :24:43. | :24:52. | |
wearing of niqabs and burkinis. The six years, we have paid 245,000 | :24:53. | :25:01. | |
euros, concerning the niqab, and concerning the burkini, I have spent | :25:02. | :25:10. | |
five. I think we will arrive at 100 fines in these ten days. The problem | :25:11. | :25:19. | |
is that next year we have an election, and I think we will arrive | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
at 2000 finds in France. What do you think when you look at those | :25:26. | :25:28. | |
pictures we were looking at the woman having to take off her outer | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
garments, it seems, to prove she did not have a burkini on underneath? | :25:33. | :25:41. | |
Looking at these pictures, all the world can see that France is not | :25:42. | :25:44. | |
democratic now. It is a dictatorship. That is why I have | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
written to Mr Ban Ki-moon, the Secretary-General of the United | :25:52. | :25:54. | |
Nations, to help the Ms Lynn women in France. -- the Muslim women in | :25:55. | :26:01. | |
France because now there is no liberty for Muslim women in France. | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
Stefan, a French journalist in Paris, when you hear somebody say | :26:07. | :26:09. | |
what is going on indicates that France is not democratic now, it is | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
a dictatorship, it is as bad to tell women what they can't wear as to | :26:16. | :26:18. | |
what they have to wear, how are people reacting to that? I would not | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
go as far to say that France is a dictatorship but it is very worrying | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
indeed that a country that has liberty and equality in its | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
publicity slogan is acting this way, trying to impose the way people | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
should dress and behave. At the same time, most of the French I have | :26:36. | :26:41. | |
spoken to basically agree with the ban and are not shocked by it. It | :26:42. | :26:44. | |
shows that though, located relationship that the French have | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
with religion. France is the only country in Europe where the state | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
and the church are very strictly separated. That has been the case | :26:53. | :26:58. | |
since 1905, at this law was intended for the Catholic church. Now, this | :26:59. | :27:02. | |
law is still valid today, but it did not take into account the Muslim | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
immigration that took place after 1905. There is a real problem | :27:07. | :27:13. | |
nowadays with the place of Islam, not a problem, but a perception of a | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
problem of the place of Islam in French society. Going back to the | :27:17. | :27:23. | |
top, you say France is not a dictatorship that it embraces the | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
values of liberty and equality, and that is, as you say, at the heart of | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
this. What message is it sending out in terms of tolerance, and in terms | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
of making, I suppose, how safe people feel and how coherent society | :27:40. | :27:45. | |
feels in France? It is completely incoherent because it has nothing to | :27:46. | :27:48. | |
do with liberty. It has to do with imposing certain views and morals, | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
the French morals, the Republican morals, which in the eyes of the | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
French are the superior morals and the universal values. They want to | :27:58. | :28:00. | |
impose that on everyone living in France so it has nothing to do with | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
liberty. There is a very important issue going on here with the | :28:05. | :28:08. | |
burkini, that in eight months from now we have the presidential | :28:09. | :28:10. | |
election and the campaign already has started. As you may know, Marie | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
Le Pen, the leader of the right wing Front National, she is leading in | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
the polls. All the politicians whether from the left or the right | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
seem to try to copy her rhetoric because they know it is popular | :28:25. | :28:27. | |
amongst voters nowadays. It should be seen in the context of the French | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
presidential campaign, which has already started with this ludicrous | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
ban on burkinis in the south of the country. Selsabil, how do you feel | :28:38. | :28:44. | |
living in France in this climate right now? I am always in the centre | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
of the debate, even though I am never invited, except for today, | :28:49. | :28:57. | |
which is very new to me. Yes, they feel like they are worried for us, | :28:58. | :29:03. | |
but in reality they are just depriving us from our rights to | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
practice our religion, like we want to. We are not hurting anyone. I | :29:08. | :29:18. | |
don't know why I it is so important to them? Is met, you are reporting | :29:19. | :29:28. | |
here, what do you think? It is going to become a political football in | :29:29. | :29:30. | |
the run-up to the elections in France. It is completely absurd, | :29:31. | :29:38. | |
there is nothing offensive about the burkini, and as you can see, she was | :29:39. | :29:45. | |
not wearing a burkini in Nice, she was simply made to remove her modest | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
coverings. There is popular support in France during this banned, does | :29:50. | :29:56. | |
it boiled down to what is best for community relations, live and let | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
live, when in Rome do as the Romans do? I can understand the sentiments | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
of people in France after the number of recent tragedies, they are living | :30:05. | :30:10. | |
in fear. There does need to be a greater dialogue and communication | :30:11. | :30:13. | |
between both sides. They don't think either side is directly in the wrong | :30:14. | :30:18. | |
but many to be greater understanding to promote that community collusion. | :30:19. | :30:24. | |
David on Twitter says I have seen some pretty awful sights on pictures | :30:25. | :30:32. | |
but none of them involve a burkini. An anonymous text, my heart broke as | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
this poor woman was humiliated. Are we regenerating to World War II | :30:38. | :30:42. | |
ignorance? An anonymous person on WhatsApp, I understand civil | :30:43. | :30:44. | |
liberty, appreciate political correctness but it needs to be a | :30:45. | :30:50. | |
balanced, however these dresses, burkini, full niqab symbolises a | :30:51. | :30:51. | |
them against us. What is your sense of community | :30:52. | :31:01. | |
relations in France? They are very tense, maybe nonexistent. I was in | :31:02. | :31:10. | |
Nice to report on the aftermath and was surprised by the racist | :31:11. | :31:15. | |
comments. People are not ashamed any war to express racist and | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
Islamophobic feelings, which is rather new. Ten years ago French | :31:21. | :31:27. | |
people would be a shame about voting for the National Front right wing | :31:28. | :31:31. | |
party and that shifted to being more open about it and nowadays they are | :31:32. | :31:38. | |
proud of voting for the Front National and I spoke to white males, | :31:39. | :31:45. | |
this was in Nice, and they say, they have gone too far, we will not | :31:46. | :31:49. | |
accept this, we will retaliate and you will hear of us soon. These | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
messages, you hear them often. I am afraid in the next couple of months | :31:56. | :32:02. | |
there will be a severe clash, maybe revenge operations by militias and | :32:03. | :32:09. | |
there are armed militias in France, in the south and the island of | :32:10. | :32:12. | |
Corsica and there will be confrontations. And discussion based | :32:13. | :32:21. | |
on and xenophobia. Do you feel vulnerable? Have you experienced | :32:22. | :32:27. | |
racism directly? I live in Paris. So, yes. What have you experienced? | :32:28. | :32:38. | |
I take the subway every day and every night. After the terrorist | :32:39. | :32:47. | |
attack in November, I would get comment thrown at me. I just live | :32:48. | :32:57. | |
with it. Living in France, how do you feel about the values that are | :32:58. | :33:04. | |
important to you, values that are important to others, and how people | :33:05. | :33:10. | |
bring back together? -- bring that together. We are French people. They | :33:11. | :33:23. | |
should not say "They", they should create a conversation. And try to | :33:24. | :33:34. | |
understand us. Thank you very much for joining us. We talked about the | :33:35. | :33:42. | |
businessmen paying the fines and we lost contact with him. Thank you for | :33:43. | :33:49. | |
your comment. Keep on telling your thoughts on that and we will try to | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
talk about it later. Also we will get the latest immigration figures | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
as a poll suggests half the population do not believe the | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
government will reach its target, a target of 100,000. | :34:04. | :34:09. | |
Thousands of teenagers are getting their GCSE results and we will be | :34:10. | :34:13. | |
live with them in Hastings as we find out if they have made the | :34:14. | :34:15. | |
grade. They look happy, at least. At least 247 people are now known | :34:16. | :34:22. | |
to have died in the earthquake which struck central Italy | :34:23. | :34:29. | |
in the early hours of yesterday. Hundreds more have been | :34:30. | :34:31. | |
injured and it's feared The search went on through | :34:32. | :34:33. | |
the night, and there was a strong aftershock which rocked | :34:34. | :34:37. | |
already damaged buildings. More than 4,300 rescuers | :34:38. | :34:39. | |
are using heavy lifting equipment Lifeboat crews were out | :34:40. | :34:41. | |
searching off Camber Sands in East Sussex overnight | :34:42. | :34:52. | |
after five people died in the sea yesterday, | :34:53. | :34:54. | |
the hottest day of the year. Three of the bodies were recovered | :34:55. | :34:56. | |
yesterday afternoon - two others were found | :34:57. | :34:58. | |
in the evening. A member of the public reported | :34:59. | :35:00. | |
seeing another body in the sea that It's not known whether any | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
of the deaths were linked, or where the five men had come | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
from. Net by Gration has fallen slightly, | :35:08. | :35:24. | |
showing 327,000 more people came to the UK then left. The figures cover | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
the year to March 20 16th and compare with the previous figure of | :35:29. | :35:29. | |
300 30 3000. More than half a million | :35:30. | :35:32. | |
teenagers in England, Wales and Northern Ireland | :35:33. | :35:34. | |
are finding out their GCSE There has been a drop in grade A* | :35:35. | :35:51. | |
awarded. Even while girls continued to outperform boys with the gender | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
gap increasing slightly. It is the last year before a major change | :35:57. | :35:58. | |
begins in how GCSEs graded. Police in Australia have | :35:59. | :36:00. | |
charged a 29-year-old French man with the murder | :36:01. | :36:02. | |
of a British backpacker. 21-year-old Mia Ayliffe-Chung, | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
from Derbyshire, was fatally stabbed at a hostel in Queensland by a man | :36:06. | :36:12. | |
shouting Allahu Akbar. A 30-year-old British man | :36:13. | :36:14. | |
was also critically injured Police have named the suspect | :36:15. | :36:16. | |
as Smail Ayad, aged 29. He's also charged with two counts | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
of attempted murder and 12 counts Turkish rebels say they have | :36:22. | :36:37. | |
captured the town in a major offensive against so-called Islamic | :36:38. | :36:44. | |
State. Turkey says it also wants to counter what it regards as a | :36:45. | :36:47. | |
security threat posed by Kurdish militants. | :36:48. | :36:49. | |
The outgoing UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has appeared | :36:50. | :36:51. | |
at a rally for US presidential candidate Donald Trump, | :36:52. | :36:53. | |
urging Republicans to follow the UK's lead in challenging | :36:54. | :36:56. | |
Yesterday, Mr Trump praised British voters for taking "control | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
Drawing parallels between the EU referendum campaign and the upcoming | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
US election, Mr Farage told the audience to "go out | :37:06. | :37:07. | |
and fight" against Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. | :37:08. | :37:14. | |
If you want change in this country, you better get your walking boots | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
on, you better get out there campaigning... | :37:19. | :37:19. | |
And remember, and remember, anything is possible if enough | :37:20. | :37:30. | |
decent people are prepared to stand up against the establishment. | :37:31. | :37:32. | |
Prince's private estate and studios are set to be opened to the public. | :37:33. | :37:42. | |
Daily tours of the Paisley Park complex in Minnesota are due | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
to start in October, six months after the singer's sudden | :37:46. | :37:47. | |
Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson, said opening the park was something | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00am. | :37:53. | :38:06. | |
We can catch up with the sport again. | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
With his future at Manchester City looking uncertain at best, Joe Hart | :38:13. | :38:15. | |
kept a clean sheet in what could be his last game for the club. Helping | :38:16. | :38:22. | |
Pep Guardiola's side to reach the group stage of the Champions League. | :38:23. | :38:28. | |
Four days after beating Liverpool in the Premier League, Burnley were | :38:29. | :38:31. | |
brought back down to earth with a 1-0 defeat against league to | :38:32. | :38:37. | |
Accrington Stanley in the EFL cup. England open their one-day series | :38:38. | :38:40. | |
with a rain affected win against Pakistan. Joe Root made a half | :38:41. | :38:51. | |
century. The victory came under the Duckworth-Lewis method. Later I will | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
speak to the stars of the Olympic games. Including Kate | :38:57. | :38:58. | |
Richardson-Walsh as well as Max Whitlock who won a double gold and | :38:59. | :39:09. | |
bronze in gymnastics. 10am and 1030. Breaking news. We are getting | :39:10. | :39:16. | |
confirmation Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, has been moved | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
from Broadmoor Hospital back to jail, Frankland prison that we are | :39:22. | :39:28. | |
hearing. We heard reports he would be moved but it is confirmed he has | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
gone to Frankland jail. He has been in board more since 1984 after being | :39:34. | :39:40. | |
diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia after his life | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
sentence in 1981 and will continue to have his mental health assessed | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
and could be returned to a psychiatric hospital if there is a | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
change in his condition. He spent 32 years in Broadmoor hospital after | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
murdering 13 women and attempting to kill seven war between 1976 and | :40:00. | :40:06. | |
1981. Peter Sutcliffe, he has been moved to Frankland jail. It is | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
estimated the move will save the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of | :40:11. | :40:16. | |
pounds. Police are trying to identify five men who died after | :40:17. | :40:22. | |
getting into difficulties off Camber Sands beach. Three bodies were | :40:23. | :40:25. | |
pulled from the water in the afternoon and two were discovered in | :40:26. | :40:29. | |
the evening. One person is still missing. Officers do not know who | :40:30. | :40:35. | |
the men are, or how they died. We can speak to Adrian who joins us | :40:36. | :40:42. | |
now. Tell us your perspective on this. There have been 12 drownings | :40:43. | :40:51. | |
in a week. It has been a bad spell for drownings around the UK | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
coastline. We typically see a spike in drownings through the summer and | :40:56. | :41:01. | |
in August, but it has been pretty grim with this sea conditions over | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
the weekend, and now another mass drowning, it would appear. There has | :41:07. | :41:16. | |
been an R.N. L I campaign, demonstrating on how people can stay | :41:17. | :41:19. | |
safe in the water. What are the dangers? Most of us learn to swim in | :41:20. | :41:26. | |
a warm environment, a swimming pool with clear water and controlled by | :41:27. | :41:30. | |
lifeguards and we have to transfer that to open water, be it a beach or | :41:31. | :41:36. | |
lake. Most of us are not prepared for the transition. The thing we | :41:37. | :41:42. | |
have emphasised is go to a place where you know there are lifeguards, | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
you can tell you where the safest places are to swim and you can look | :41:48. | :41:54. | |
after you should you need help. One of the issues that has been raised | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
is that of riptides. How easy is it for somebody to get into | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
difficulties in the water and not be aware of how to handle it? Rip | :42:04. | :42:09. | |
currents are something that can be a permanent feature on a beach, or | :42:10. | :42:16. | |
they can suddenly pop up at a place of low resistance. Water rushing | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
back away from the beach. The important thing is this water is | :42:20. | :42:25. | |
moving away from the beach at speed and even competent swimmers can | :42:26. | :42:31. | |
struggle to swim against that. The tactic we advise is not to fight the | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
tide pulling you away from the shore. Shout and signal for help. | :42:36. | :42:43. | |
Wait until you reach the back of the rip current, because it will go out, | :42:44. | :42:49. | |
and then swim to the side, make your way back to shore. The worst thing | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
to do is battle with the current, because it can be so vast, even an | :42:55. | :42:59. | |
Olympic swimmer would not beat it. Is it a particularly bad year? We | :43:00. | :43:04. | |
have seen a large number of deaths in one week. Do riptides vary? | :43:05. | :43:12. | |
Riptides are almost a permanent feature on the UK coast, almost on | :43:13. | :43:19. | |
every beach. Every year we see between 70 and 80 people drowned | :43:20. | :43:24. | |
around our coastal locations and August is typically a bad mum. There | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
are people on holiday, visiting beaches they may not be familiar | :43:30. | :43:37. | |
with -- month. When you go to a new beach, take time to find out and | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
talk to lifeguards about the safest place. Stay between the red and | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
yellow flags because that will be the safest place. Take time to learn | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
about the environment before throwing yourself in the water. One | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
of the worst things can do and we have all done it, you go to the | :43:56. | :44:01. | |
beach and you want to set up, put your towel down, and you say to the | :44:02. | :44:06. | |
children, go and explore. Actually, do not. Go and explore the beach | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
first, learn about the environment, decide where you will go and then | :44:12. | :44:19. | |
have a great day. That is a gem from the Royal life saving Society. | :44:20. | :44:22. | |
Coming up, we will talk to a model whose career came to the end in the | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
70s when people found out she was transgender. The latest migration | :44:27. | :44:37. | |
figures show a dip in the net figure, the difference between | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
people coming to live here and emigrating. David Cameron promised | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
to ring net migration to 100,000. legal and illegal, the levels | :44:47. | :44:49. | |
of immigration can return and 1990s, when immigration was not | :44:50. | :44:56. | |
a front rank political issue. And I believe that that will mean | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
net migration to this country will be in the order of tens | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
of thousands each year, not the hundreds of thousands every | :45:05. | :45:07. | |
year that we've seen Yes, Britain will always be open | :45:08. | :45:10. | |
to the best and brightest from around the world | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
and those fleeing persecution. But with us, our borders | :45:16. | :45:18. | |
will be under control, and immigration will be | :45:19. | :45:20. | |
at levels our country can manage. This is a promise we made | :45:21. | :45:26. | |
to the British people, Since then, net migration to the UK | :45:27. | :45:48. | |
has climbed to 230,000 per year -- to 330,000 UK. The total numbers of | :45:49. | :45:57. | |
those arriving as 630,000. From inside the EU was estimated at | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
184,000, almost the same as net migration from outside the EU, which | :46:03. | :46:10. | |
is 180 8000. As a member state of the European Union Britain is | :46:11. | :46:18. | |
committed to free migration. As a result, during the EU referendum | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
campaign, levels of immigration were a major issue. They key statement on | :46:23. | :46:29. | |
immigration signed by leading Brexiteers, pledged that after | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
Brexit, this automatic right for EU citizens to live and work in the UK | :46:35. | :46:37. | |
would end, and that a points system like the one used in Australia where | :46:38. | :46:41. | |
points are scored on things like skills and education should be | :46:42. | :46:44. | |
introduced to control levels of immigration. Since the vote, the | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
Prime Minister has said one of the main messages she has taken from the | :46:49. | :46:51. | |
leave out is that the British people want to see a reduction in | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
immigration. She has said that she remains committed to bringing | :46:56. | :46:58. | |
immigration down to sustainable levels, which he defines as below | :46:59. | :46:59. | |
100,000. But, figures released today | :47:00. | :47:04. | |
from the think tank, British future, reveal that only a third of British | :47:05. | :47:07. | |
people believe that the government will meet that target in the next | :47:08. | :47:09. | |
five years even after Brexit. So what will happen to levels of | :47:10. | :47:15. | |
immigration to the UK after Brexit? In the studio, we have the Leigh | :47:16. | :47:21. | |
Griffiths, from the Institute for Public Policy Research, and Wilma | :47:22. | :47:27. | |
Lee, the director of the fact checking organisation, for fact. And | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
from Brussels we are joined by the Conservative MEP and firmer than | :47:33. | :47:35. | |
Leave campaigner, Daniel Hannan. Thank you for joining us. Well. What | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
are the prospects, the expectations of immigration being dramatically | :47:42. | :47:47. | |
reduced once we actually need to leave the EU? Well, nobody knows, | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
the forecast in immigration is a mug 's game, nobody knows what is going | :47:51. | :47:55. | |
to happen and nobody can know. The thing that has been driving a lot of | :47:56. | :47:59. | |
immigration into this country over the last few years is the strength | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
of our economy, compared to economies in the rest of Europe. | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
Obviously in southern Europe we have had some economies in real trouble, | :48:08. | :48:13. | |
and the UK has had a good time and creating employment and things like | :48:14. | :48:16. | |
that. If the economy changes you might expect to see that change. By | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
the fact that you are in the EU, and there are rights of others to be | :48:22. | :48:24. | |
observed, your hands are effectively tied. When they are not common | :48:25. | :48:30. | |
control it, don't you? We don't know when we will actually leave the EU. | :48:31. | :48:35. | |
While we are in the EU we don't know. The next big choice that has | :48:36. | :48:42. | |
to be made now that we have decided to leave the EU is on what terms do | :48:43. | :48:46. | |
we leave? Do we want to retain effectively membership of the single | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
market for which, for quid pro quo is currently going to be some level | :48:52. | :48:54. | |
of freedom of movement, some still allowing people to come and live and | :48:55. | :48:58. | |
work and study in the UK from the rest of the EU? Or do we say we | :48:59. | :49:02. | |
leave the single market completely, in which case we might get complete | :49:03. | :49:06. | |
control over EU immigration but even that is speculative. We don't know | :49:07. | :49:09. | |
in terms of a deal that might be made with the rest of the EU. Daniel | :49:10. | :49:15. | |
Hannan, have the British people been misled on this? We heard David | :49:16. | :49:19. | |
Cameron saying no ifs or buts, our border will be under control, | :49:20. | :49:25. | |
promising net migration of under 100,000. The retired during the | :49:26. | :49:27. | |
referendum campaign that Britain would be in control, that net | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
migration would be register after Brexit. We are heading for Brexit | :49:32. | :49:34. | |
and it is still not clear what is going to happen with immigration. We | :49:35. | :49:40. | |
promised during the referendum we would take back control and that in | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
my book can only have one possible meaning, which is that no foreign | :49:44. | :49:47. | |
court will get to determine who can enter the UK who can remain in the | :49:48. | :49:52. | |
UK, that will be a decision made by Parliament and the people. What will | :49:53. | :49:56. | |
taking back control mean, then? What should the figure B? It means we | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
will decide what rules we want to put in place, whether we want people | :50:03. | :50:06. | |
to come here and study, to comfort skilled work, which there seems to | :50:07. | :50:09. | |
be quite a lot of support for. Most of the concern is about people | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
coming, unskilled workers coming without jobs to go to and looking to | :50:14. | :50:16. | |
work when they are here, there's very little concern about people | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
coming to work in finance, pharmaceuticals other high-end | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
industries. That will be a decision for us to decide ourselves. The way | :50:25. | :50:27. | |
that the debate has been framed has very much been about numbers. | :50:28. | :50:42. | |
The hundred thousand figure is the one that people have been led to | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
believe would happen. Should that therefore be an absolute commitment? | :50:48. | :50:50. | |
Is that in your view what the figures should be? That was a | :50:51. | :50:55. | |
commitment of the Conservative Party at the last election, it was not a | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
commitment of the referendum campaign. But it is a figure that | :51:00. | :51:02. | |
has been out there, is that one that you think the British people would | :51:03. | :51:08. | |
like to see? We will find out, it will be for the British people to | :51:09. | :51:16. | |
choose. I am a Democrat, my sense is that most people probably do want a | :51:17. | :51:19. | |
reduction in figures, and by the way I think that is quite an achievable | :51:20. | :51:26. | |
target. I am much more upbeat. So 100,000 is achievable, you say? It | :51:27. | :51:33. | |
is not going to happen AJ Lee, but simple steps like taking away the | :51:34. | :51:36. | |
right to come here if you don't have a job, something like 70,000 people | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
a year come to the EU without work to go to. That would be a big change | :51:41. | :51:45. | |
in itself. Removing in work benefits so you are not propping up the | :51:46. | :51:47. | |
salaries of lower paid workers so they don't have the same attraction | :51:48. | :51:50. | |
in terms of the remittances, that would have a huge impact. These are | :51:51. | :51:57. | |
not radical steps, but they are steps you could take in fairly | :51:58. | :52:01. | |
cordial negotiations with our European friends. So that is the | :52:02. | :52:08. | |
figure you would like to peg it at? Look, it is not going to be a thing | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
every single year it is the same figure, it will depend on the cycle. | :52:13. | :52:16. | |
But as an ultimate goal you would like that figure? Eventually, yes, | :52:17. | :52:21. | |
but I am not going to say it will be delivered within two or three years. | :52:22. | :52:25. | |
David Cameron obviously tried to do it and found he was not able to. Why | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
not be definitive about the figure, because this is a debate that has | :52:30. | :52:37. | |
been gone over, and the British people made their views clear at the | :52:38. | :52:40. | |
referendum and you were one of those leading the charge to get out of the | :52:41. | :52:43. | |
EU because of this issue? Why do you say I was leading the charge to get | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
out of the EU because of this issue. My key issue was democracy, which we | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
are now going to restore. How we use that democracy will be for the | :52:53. | :53:01. | |
British people. If key thing for me is getting back control. Phoebe | :53:02. | :53:13. | |
Griffith, what is your perspective? The sooner we get rid of the crew | :53:14. | :53:21. | |
had 100,000 figure is the better. It is just a very blunt instrument to | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
manage a very complex issue. Our view is that you could still manage | :53:26. | :53:28. | |
migration, still have targets, but the critical objective should be to | :53:29. | :53:33. | |
segregate that target. So in the first place, to segregate highly | :53:34. | :53:37. | |
skilled migration from lower skilled migration. | :53:38. | :53:54. | |
That is an issue that you need to sort of tackle very differently to | :53:55. | :54:00. | |
what we'd do with international students for example, or highly | :54:01. | :54:04. | |
skilled migrants or investors. These two things should be completely | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
separated as soon as possible. It doesn't mean not having | :54:10. | :54:20. | |
targets but 100,000 is not really the way to manage a very complex | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
issue. Thank you for joining us, let us know your thoughts on that. It is | :54:27. | :54:32. | |
a day 16-year-olds across England, Wales and Northern Ireland have been | :54:33. | :54:35. | |
waiting for dreading as GCSE results have been released. | :54:36. | :54:41. | |
There has been a drop in A star to C grades awarded. | :54:42. | :54:44. | |
66-point-9 per cent were a 'good pass' - | :54:45. | :54:46. | |
down from 69 per cent last year - that's the lowest in ten years. | :54:47. | :54:49. | |
Gillian Hargreaves is at an academy near Hastings. As you say, there has | :54:50. | :54:55. | |
been a drop this year, two percentage points, which doesn't | :54:56. | :54:58. | |
sound very much but it is significant. The reason why we think | :54:59. | :55:04. | |
that has happened is that older students, 17-year-olds, who did not | :55:05. | :55:07. | |
get their GCSE English and maths the first time round at 16 are now | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
having to retake them at further education colleges. This is a new | :55:13. | :55:15. | |
rule that the government brought in last year and there has been a huge | :55:16. | :55:18. | |
increase in the number of 17-year-old Stirling retakes to get | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
those qualifications. The consequence of that is there has now | :55:23. | :55:32. | |
been a depression in the a to see grades. With me are two | :55:33. | :55:41. | |
16-year-olds. Millie and Olivia. I pass the match with a C, and I | :55:42. | :55:52. | |
passed English with a B. I was so pleased. Did you just find maths | :55:53. | :55:58. | |
hard? I only really started to learn five months into year 11 so it was a | :55:59. | :56:02. | |
really big push. I am so happy I finally got a C. I am now going to | :56:03. | :56:09. | |
Hastings College to study business and hopefully lead somewhere to the | :56:10. | :56:12. | |
business industry, because it opens lots of doors. You said you wanted | :56:13. | :56:17. | |
to set up your own business. Yes, it would be good, but we will see. I | :56:18. | :56:27. | |
got exactly the same, a in maths and a B in English. I passed basically | :56:28. | :56:30. | |
everything so I was happy with of them. What is the next plan to you? | :56:31. | :56:37. | |
Going to college and studying health and social care. I am thinking about | :56:38. | :56:45. | |
doing midwifery, just kind of like in that. Fantastic. As you can see, | :56:46. | :56:51. | |
those two qualifications, GCSE English and maths are absolutely | :56:52. | :56:54. | |
crucial to anything you want to do later on, whether it is a levels and | :56:55. | :57:00. | |
university or a vocational qualification or a decent | :57:01. | :57:05. | |
apprenticeship. Lots of you getting in touch on the burkini ban in | :57:06. | :57:10. | |
France, John in e-mail, if I went to Dubai, we have to cover up and obey | :57:11. | :57:18. | |
their laws, why can't Muslims integrate with us? These are the | :57:19. | :57:23. | |
pictures that have really triggered the latest element of the debate on | :57:24. | :57:28. | |
social media. Carmen on Facebook, Muslims in Europe should dress like | :57:29. | :57:31. | |
Europeans, when we go to their country we must cover up where we | :57:32. | :57:36. | |
are insulted. Ollie on text, this is state bullying, whatever happened to | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
liberty and fraternity? Keep your comments coming in, let's catch up | :57:41. | :57:41. | |
with the weather now. Yesterday was a scorching hot | :57:42. | :57:50. | |
Dataquest East Anglia and the south-east in particular. We will | :57:51. | :57:56. | |
take a look at some of the temperatures, the hottest day of the | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
year so far, 34 Celsius in Gravesend, 93 Fahrenheit. The heat | :58:02. | :58:05. | |
and humidity in the end sparked some thunderstorms through the evening. | :58:06. | :58:08. | |
Captured by our weather watch in Cambridgeshire. Another picture here | :58:09. | :58:13. | |
from Suffolk. Again it was the south-east that saw the | :58:14. | :58:15. | |
thunderstorms but they were high based thunderstorms, not much rain | :58:16. | :58:17. | |
getting down at the surface but there was quite a bit of thunder and | :58:18. | :58:22. | |
lightning. A noisy night for some, then another area of rain pushed its | :58:23. | :58:27. | |
way up from the Midlands. It is clearing out into the North Sea, | :58:28. | :58:30. | |
leaves behind a queue sharp showers in East Anglia and another area of | :58:31. | :58:37. | |
showers -- a few sharp showers. Across Scotland for the bulk of the | :58:38. | :58:48. | |
western side quite good. Northern Ireland, pretty decent afternoon for | :58:49. | :58:52. | |
the most part but in heavy showers looking at West. The north-east of | :58:53. | :58:55. | |
England also quite grave is a lot more clout than we have seen in | :58:56. | :59:01. | |
recent days. East Anglia and the south-east, -- a lot more cloud. | :59:02. | :59:11. | |
Potentially thundery showers keep going on into the evening, mainly | :59:12. | :59:15. | |
central and eastern parts of England drifting eastward is all the while, | :59:16. | :59:18. | |
and further showers affecting Scotland and Northern Ireland. | :59:19. | :59:22. | |
Temperatures are some of us coming down on recent nights, 13, 14 | :59:23. | :59:26. | |
degrees but still quite a when one the East Anglia and the south-east, | :59:27. | :59:29. | |
17 or 18. It may start with some showers but they move away pretty | :59:30. | :59:33. | |
quickly. For England and Wales, a pretty decent day on Friday, light | :59:34. | :59:37. | |
winds for the most part, good spells of sunshine. A decent day in | :59:38. | :59:40. | |
Northern Ireland as well, western Scotland a bit more the breeze and | :59:41. | :59:44. | |
the scattering of showers. 19 degrees in Belfast, a warmer 26 or | :59:45. | :59:48. | |
so in London. Looking ahead to the start of the weekend, of course it | :59:49. | :59:49. | |
is a bank holiday weekend for some of us, we have this weather | :59:50. | :00:11. | |
front moving its way north. It will start off as scattered showers, | :00:12. | :00:13. | |
merging into something a bit more heavy and persistent, working its | :00:14. | :00:15. | |
way northward, but for Scotland and Northern Ireland have the most part, | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
a pretty decent sort of day. Looking ahead to Sunday and Monday, | :00:19. | :00:20. | |
Jaaskelainen scattering of showers around but by no means will it be a | :00:21. | :00:21. | |
wash-out. GCSE results are out there has been | :00:22. | :00:41. | |
a drop between grade A* to grade C or rewarded. And the woman who was | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
one of the first black women to grace the pages of Italian Vogue. | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
But she had a secret. Now she is the first transgender model for a | :00:54. | :01:02. | |
company. Now we can catch up with the news. Good morning. | :01:03. | :01:08. | |
At least 247 people are now known to have died | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
in the earthquake which struck central Italy in the early | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
Hundreds more have been injured and it's feared dozens | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
The search went on overnight and there was a strong after-shock that | :01:18. | :01:29. | |
damaged more buildings. Rescuers are using heavy lifting equipment and | :01:30. | :01:36. | |
their bare hands. This is the scene live in Amatrice as the rescue | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
effort continues, hoping to find people still alive in the rubble and | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
we will continue coverage of the story right through the day. | :01:44. | :01:45. | |
Lifeboat crews have been searching the water off Camber Sands | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
in East Sussex overnight after five people died | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
in the sea yesterday, the hottest day of the year. | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
Three of the bodies were recovered yesterday afternoon - | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
two others were found in the evening. | :01:58. | :01:59. | |
A member of the public reported seeing another body in the sea that | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
It's not known whether any of the deaths were linked | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
Immigration fell slightly in the year to March 2016 but remains above | :02:07. | :02:19. | |
the government target. 327,000 more people came to live in the UK the | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
left, about 9000 down on last year. The figures show 180,000 more EU | :02:25. | :02:32. | |
citizens entered the UK then left to live in the union, a lower figure | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
than non-EU migration. More than half a million teenagers in England, | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
Wales and Northern Ireland are finding out their GCSE results with | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
a drop in the percentage of A* to grade C awarded. Meanwhile girls | :02:48. | :02:55. | |
continue to outperform boys with the gender gap increasing slightly. This | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
is the last year before a major change begins in how GCSEs are | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
graded. Convicted murderer Peter Sutcliffe, known as the Yorkshire | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
Ripper, has been moved from Broadmoor Hospital and back to jail. | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
The 70-year-old has spent 32 years in the institution in Berkshire | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
after murdering 13 women and attempting to kill seven more | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
between 1976 and 1981. His mental health will continue to be assessed | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
in prison. It is estimated the move will save the taxpayer hundreds of | :03:30. | :03:30. | |
thousands. Police in Australia have | :03:31. | :03:31. | |
charged a 29-year-old French man with the murder | :03:32. | :03:33. | |
of a British backpacker. 21-year-old Mia Ayliffe-Chung, | :03:34. | :03:35. | |
from Derbyshire, was fatally stabbed at a hostel in Queensland by a man | :03:36. | :03:37. | |
shouting Allahu Akbar. A 30-year-old British man | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
was also critically injured Police have named the suspect | :03:41. | :03:42. | |
as Smail Ayad, aged 29. He's also charged with two counts | :03:43. | :03:52. | |
of attempted murder and 12 counts Turkish-backed Syrian rebels say | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
they've captured the town of Jarablus in a major offensive | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
against so-called Islamic State. But Turkey says its intervention | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
is not only intended to target IS. It also wants to counter what Ankara | :04:04. | :04:05. | |
regards as a security threat posed The outgoing UK Independence Party | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
leader Nigel Farage has appeared at a rally for US presidential | :04:09. | :04:17. | |
candidate Donald Trump, urging Republicans to follow | :04:18. | :04:19. | |
the UK's lead in challenging Yesterday, Mr Trump praised British | :04:20. | :04:21. | |
voters for taking "control Drawing parallels between the EU | :04:22. | :04:30. | |
referendum campaign and the upcoming US election, Mr Farage told | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
the audience to "go out and fight" against Democratic | :04:37. | :04:38. | |
candidate Hillary Clinton. If you want change in this country, | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
you better get your walking boots on, you better get out | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
there campaigning. And remember, and remember, | :04:50. | :04:51. | |
anything is possible if enough decent people are prepared to stand | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
up against the establishment. Prince's private estate and studios | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
are set to be opened to the public. Daily tours of the Paisley Park | :05:01. | :05:12. | |
complex in Minnesota are due to start in October, | :05:13. | :05:14. | |
six months after the singer's sudden Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson, | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
said opening the park was something That's a summary of | :05:18. | :05:24. | |
the latest BBC News. A lot coming up still on the show | :05:25. | :05:41. | |
before 11am, including, should social media giants do more to | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
tackle radicalisation online? MPs say they are failing to take action. | :05:46. | :05:47. | |
Let us know what you think about it. Keep on getting in touch with your | :05:48. | :06:03. | |
thoughts on the burkini ban. The woman being ordered, it seems, by | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
police to take off her outer layer of clothing on a beach in Nice | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
because they thought she might be flouting the burkini ban on the | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
beach. Let us know your thoughts. A lot of you letting us know what you | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
think about that. We can now catch up with the sport. | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
Good morning. Team GB continues to reflect on an amazing Olympics. 67 | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
medals representing their best finish at and away games and history | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
made in the women's hockey with the first gold medal and I am happy to | :06:36. | :06:41. | |
say some of the team joined me, Maddie Hinch, Helen and Kate | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
Richardson-Walsh. It was an incredible performance and fantastic | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
to see you without your mask! Did you expect to capture | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
people'simaginations? We hope to. Our vision is to inspire people back | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
home and we felt the final game gave them a taste of what hockey is | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
about, it had everything that was a great advert for us and women's | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
sport and we are proud of how many people tuned in. It was a fantastic | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
performance from you. Alan, watching the games, there were so many | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
familiar faces and names, great core group. We built together so long for | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
the medal, what was it like, was experienced in the squad a factor? | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
Definitely. We went to London and got a bronze medal, which at the | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
time was disappointing because we wanted the gold, but on reflection | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
it was massive for the squad, showing that we were heading in the | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
right direction. We had a rocky road leading into Rio in the last four | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
years but we got its back on track and the gold medal is the | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
culmination of a lot of hard work over many years. Thanks to the | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
centralised programme, which we would not be able to do without, | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
because of the lottery funding we get. A lot of people talking about | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
how ?4.1 million medal was a lot of money. Do you think the funding was | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
just right for you? Some sports do not get the level you get. | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
Absolutely and we are fortunate we get funding and unfortunately it | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
cannot go to everyone and we are thankful we repaid them with a gold | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
medal and hopefully hockey can bounce forward from this gold medal | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
winning team and inspire lots of others to pick up a stick and win | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
more medals in the future. Was it part of what the squad aimed for | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
going into the Olympics, to create a legacy for hockey? Two years ago we | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
got together and after many hours of meetings we came up with the vision | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
to create history and inspire the future and inspire the future is | :08:58. | :09:04. | |
key. We are role models. We want kids, parents, old and young to go | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
to their local club. Go and find a local club and pick up a stick. It | :09:10. | :09:15. | |
is easy. We have so much fun. Have a go. Maddie Hinch, we want to speak | :09:16. | :09:22. | |
about team sport. Teams outside rowing, individual teams in cycling, | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
have not performed well over the last few Olympic Games. What does it | :09:26. | :09:33. | |
mean to you, do you have a particular experience, you banned | :09:34. | :09:35. | |
yourselves from Twitter, what can other team sports learn? We have | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
shown the importance of culture in a grip. As Helen said we have been | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
through tough times and we've had to have honest and open conversations | :09:48. | :09:49. | |
and allow ourselves to be vulnerable to be better. The Twitter and social | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
media ban was interesting, because we wanted to get hockey out there | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
but we said we would let the hockey do the talking and if we performed | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
well people would pay attention and in the end, it worked perfectly. | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
Social media is something teams should consider. It has been a | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
fantastic career for you, Kate, and you have now retired. You were the | :10:18. | :10:23. | |
flag bearer at the closing ceremony. You were the rowdiest on the plane | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
we have been told from every athlete who has come back! What is it like | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
to know you will not be involved with that team spirit again? You are | :10:31. | :10:37. | |
trying to make me cry. Being part of the squad and previous squads is the | :10:38. | :10:44. | |
proudest thing I will ever do. We have a shared vision and so many | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
special times, good and bad, and I will live with these memories the | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
rest of my life and I hope the squad goes on to do fantastic things and I | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
will be watching from afar. Do you know what the future holds? We are | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
going out to play domestic club hockey in Holland, if they let us | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
across the border with our medals! And I hope to get into coaching. The | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
ultimate goal would be to coach a team to win an Olympic gold medal. | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
Best of luck in Holland. I do not know the tax on gold but you might | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
have to pay a bit to get over the border! We will be talking to Max | :11:24. | :11:32. | |
Whitlock just after 10:30am. Love it. Thank you very much. Police | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
are trying to identify five men whose bodies were recovered off | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
Camber Sands in East Sussex. Three bodies were pulled from the water in | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
the afternoon yesterday, and another two discovered on the shore in the | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
evening. One person is still missing. Officers do not know who | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
the men are, or how they died. We can speak to someone who was on the | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
beach yesterday. Natasha, thanks for joining us, what did you see? We saw | :12:02. | :12:11. | |
a group of people. We did not know what was going on. The land | :12:12. | :12:19. | |
ambulance arrived. It started taking people from the water. There was | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
confusion as to what was happening. There was the air ambulance and that | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
is when it became clear it was serious. You saw what was unfolding | :12:32. | :12:41. | |
after the bodies had been washed up. Had you seen anything before that | :12:42. | :12:48. | |
that caused concern? The beach was full. The water looked calm. I did | :12:49. | :12:59. | |
not see any flags up. There were a lot of people gathered in the same | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
place at one time. I noticed it before, a lot of people. We have a | :13:04. | :13:13. | |
statement through from police saying they believe they now know who the | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
men are and they came to the beach together for the day and they | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
believe they are in their late teens and early 20s and come from the | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
Greater London area and the men were not fully clothed when pulled from | :13:26. | :13:28. | |
the sea but wearing clothes appropriate for the beach that day | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
and they say they have no reports of other people missing and there are | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
no ongoing searches related to the incident. They say it is an | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
incredibly tragic incident and they are offering support to the next of | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
kin. They say their thoughts are with them. That is revealing more | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
than we understood because it was reported that the men were fully | :13:51. | :13:53. | |
clothed but it seems they had gone to the beach together that day and | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
had obviously gone into the water. You were saying that as far as you | :14:01. | :14:09. | |
view, the water was pretty flat. It seemed really still. I mentioned to | :14:10. | :14:16. | |
my friend before we arrived that I did not understand because recently | :14:17. | :14:18. | |
there was another tragedy that happened there. I could not get my | :14:19. | :14:25. | |
head around how it could happen and this happened in front of our eyes. | :14:26. | :14:35. | |
Now they have been identified, it does make it... Yes, it was | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
horrible. Is there an issue with riptides at Camber Sands? I do go | :14:42. | :14:48. | |
there often. We take our dog there. There is that one area. It always | :14:49. | :14:56. | |
seems to be warmer, I do not know if that means anything. There are not | :14:57. | :15:04. | |
enough lifeguards. We appreciate you joining us. That's very sad news. We | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
are hearing from police that they believe they know who the men are | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
and that they had come to the beach together for the day and they say | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
they believe they are in their late teens and early 20s and had come | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
from the Greater London area. They were not fully clothed when pulled | :15:27. | :15:29. | |
from the sea but wearing clothes appropriate for the beach that day. | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
Let's talk now about radicalisation online, and the role of social media | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
giants like Facebook, Twitter and Google. | :15:37. | :15:37. | |
A group of MPs has accused them of "consciously failing" to take | :15:38. | :15:40. | |
action on the use of their websites to promote extremism. | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
The Home Affairs Committee says teams of "only a few hundred" | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
employees monitor billions of accounts - while Twitter does not | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
proactively report extremist content to law enforcement agencies. | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
In response, the networks said they take swift action to remove | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
content that promotes violence and extremism. | :15:57. | :15:57. | |
We spoke earlier this year to Facebook vice-president | :15:58. | :15:59. | |
Nicola Mendelsohn about how content is monitored on the site. | :16:00. | :16:11. | |
Who checks, do you have banks of people sing in infants of screens | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
waiting about things, or do you wait for a complaint coming? It is a | :16:18. | :16:24. | |
combination of the birth. It must be an issue, in terms of the must have | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
rules or some sort of guidance to know to look out for this, not that, | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
because it is such, I mean it is a quagmire, isn't it? You will say | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
some pictures are OK, some aren't, some political statements are, some | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
aren't, who draws up those rules? Like any business we have our own | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
set of policies, in terms of making sure the environment people come to | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
on Facebook is the environment they feel safe and secure in and an | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
environment where they want to enjoy businesses like theirs but also | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
pictures of their friends, the family, the entertainment, the news. | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
God bless you, we see a lot of your news through Facebook, that is what | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
they want to see in an environment that is right and safe and secure | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
for them. That is Nicola Mendelsohn, Facebook's vice president who spoke | :17:12. | :17:12. | |
to us earlier. Let's discuss this with Charlotte | :17:13. | :17:14. | |
Holloway from TechUK. She says the report isn't a fair | :17:15. | :17:15. | |
picture of what tech companies are doing | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
to tackle online extremism. Keith campaigns the freedom of | :17:19. | :17:29. | |
speech, he says an online crackdown of extremists will martyr the | :17:30. | :17:30. | |
motherboard. Sajda Mughal is the director | :17:31. | :17:39. | |
of the JAN Trust, which agrees Facebook, Twitter and Google | :17:40. | :17:42. | |
are dropping the ball What more do you think they need to | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
be doing? A lot more needs to be done, and having researched online | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
extremism since 2006 I can tell you that the internet is paying a huge | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
part in radicalising individuals. I work with young people and they tell | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
me how the internet is playing a part, including Facebook and | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
Twitter. So there needs to be this proactive approach whereby accounts | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
are taken down that are inciting hatred, inciting violence, and I can | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
tell you on a personal level having experienced hate speech towards me, | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
and the incitement of violence from far right extremists as welcome or | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
needs to be done. The issue is what is being done. Are the tech | :18:26. | :18:33. | |
companies acting but not enough? I agree, not enough, whilst they may | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
say they are acting, on a day-to-day basis I am immersed in the online | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
world, with regards to online extremism, and I don't believe | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
enough is being done, and quicken up as well. Charlotte, why would you | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
say about what the tech companies are doing, because if you see | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
something like that, it is hard to understand why it is not just | :18:53. | :18:55. | |
automatically picked up and taken out. Absolutely. What is really | :18:56. | :19:02. | |
important to acknowledge is that counterterrorism online and | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
extremism more broadly is a deep rooted issue, which doesn't just | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
touch the online world but many parts of society and culture as we | :19:11. | :19:17. | |
all know. But the responsibility is for tech companies to do something | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
about it. Tech companies take those responsibilities very seriously. | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
Companies are looking constantly ways they can do more. The report | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
recognises a number of good examples where companies are making very | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
positive strides, working in partnership with other | :19:35. | :19:36. | |
organisations, civil society groups, the police, and security agencies, | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
where a lot is being done. Nobody is understating. To say that companies | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
are consciously failing is grossly inaccurate and huge positive steps | :19:49. | :19:59. | |
are being taken. The National counted terrorism police try to get | :20:00. | :20:04. | |
those companies to remove material. They refused. Who is better placed, | :20:05. | :20:11. | |
the companies or the counterterrorism police? I can't | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
speak about the specifics of that case, but I know that the majority | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
of those were taken down. Companies asked to act within the law and they | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
have robust zero tolerance approach is to illegal if trimmers material. | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
In the places where that is clear, material is taken down, quickly. As | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
Professor Peter Newman has stated this morning from Kings College, | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
companies act very quickly, on average it takes a day for accounts | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
to be taken down. Action is taken swiftly. But sometimes they decide | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
that things should stay. There are robust company policies in place and | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
companies act within the law. There are cases where photographers, for | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
example, have been banned from Facebook because they have put out | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
pictures they have taken of female breasts, and that is banned. How are | :21:01. | :21:15. | |
these decisions taken? There is censorship about one thing and not | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
another and how is the decision taken about what to censor? With | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
illegal material acting within the law there are clear policies. | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
Nothing legal about putting a picture of a woman's breasts. Liem I | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
can't speak specifically, but there is no magic algorithm that will have | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
one issue and it sits with another. It is deeply contextual. We need to | :21:38. | :21:48. | |
work in partnership with other bodies and organisations. Keith, do | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
you think it is important to pick out what should and should not be | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
allowed? I think it is very difficult but I am quite worried | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
about the committee saying journalists should not describe | :22:00. | :22:07. | |
Daesh terrorists as Muslims, when that is the core of their identity | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
and determining what they do. Also, they are talking about a zero | :22:13. | :22:22. | |
tolerance on hate speech. That has not been properly defined either. If | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
we have preachers saying homosexuals should get a hell, that is hate | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
speech, but we should not be putting them in prison. These are really, | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
really complex issues. What is your perspective on the role that tech | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
companies should be playing in deciding whether something is | :22:41. | :22:42. | |
acceptable or whether it should be pulled down? I think we need to make | :22:43. | :22:49. | |
the law much more precise and then... Can you legislate for | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
something as conflicts is this? I think we have to, because the moment | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
that we depart from the rule of law, then we are into a descending spiral | :22:57. | :23:03. | |
on freedom of expression. The government on this extremism stuff | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
is really in the water. It has been trying for three years to define | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
extremism, and failed. How would you define it? I don't think a | :23:13. | :23:18. | |
television programme in two minutes is the opportunity to do that. But | :23:19. | :23:25. | |
if we can't do it, then it effectively lays the floor open for | :23:26. | :23:28. | |
government to act in any way that it likes. I am really concerned about | :23:29. | :23:35. | |
some of this terrorism stuff, and the extremism orders that are being | :23:36. | :23:45. | |
almost certainly going to decriminalise people acting in ways | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
which at the moment isn't even criminal, and ruining their lives. | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
Sajda, do you think there should be clarity within the law, so it is | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
absolutely clear what the responsibility is of tech companies, | :23:58. | :24:03. | |
when it comes to what is out there? To be honest with you, if we have | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
material online which is inciting hatred, which there is, there needs | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
to be firm action taken. Have you pointed out material you believe | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
insights, to what, to tech company 's? All the time, the Facebook, via | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
Twitter. You press the report button. I get hate speech hurled at | :24:24. | :24:35. | |
me being a Muslim and my gender. Every single case, and I have | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
reported many into Twitter, with every civil case nothing is done. | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
What you think should be done, and account taken off-line? If an | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
account is inciting hatred, violence, then action needs to be | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
taken in terms of those accounts need to be taken down. Keith wants | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
to come in. Inciting violence absolutely right, and that should be | :24:58. | :25:04. | |
the line. What we mustn't get into is a situation where people are | :25:05. | :25:07. | |
offended by something was that none of us have the right not to be | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
offended and we are drifting in that area dangerously. Sajda is it | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
inciting violence or is it offensive what you are concerned about? | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
Defensive hatred and violence, and that hatred which I have seen from | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
experience with individuals, that hatred online can spill into | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
violence on the streets. So it is a question of where you draw the line, | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
where would you draw the line? Incitement to violence. When can you | :25:33. | :25:38. | |
define something as inciting violence or just saying it is | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
offensive? There is a spectrum. That is what we have courts for. In the | :25:44. | :25:55. | |
context of what is said in which it is made. Charlotte. If I might add | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
to that, and I think whether there are clear examples within the law, | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
companies take a zero tolerance to inciting online extremism and online | :26:06. | :26:15. | |
hate speech. Nobody is saying this is not difficult. Nobody is saying | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
companies are not saying they don't take this highly seriously. We need | :26:20. | :26:26. | |
to consider, yes, there are issues about how do we counter that speech? | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
How do we make sure the deeper roots of those are accounted. The | :26:31. | :26:37. | |
perspective people have when they get frustrated because they say | :26:38. | :26:40. | |
online companies are not doing enough, they are protecting too | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
much. The rights of people to say things others find offensive. How | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
would a company define its role? Is a tech company, does it have to be a | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
protector of free speech or a protector of individual rights? | :26:57. | :27:02. | |
Companies have a clear requirement to abide with the law and companies | :27:03. | :27:05. | |
themselves will have separate policies around particular | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
practices. More broadly, we need to think about how is it there is | :27:10. | :27:13. | |
undesirable material online? We are very clear that extremism material | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
online is anti-social but how do we counter that so companies are doing | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
efforts that are actually recognised deep in the pages of this report. | :27:23. | :27:31. | |
Why isn't everything taken out that is deemed to be inciting violence? | :27:32. | :27:40. | |
Anything that is due to be inciting violence... But going back to that, | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
National counterterrorism police specifically asking YouTuber and | :27:47. | :27:48. | |
Twitter to take down material that they believe should not be the the | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
companies would not. Every incident leads to Bielik that, there is | :27:55. | :27:57. | |
partnership working, how do we make this work quicker and more | :27:58. | :28:00. | |
effectively. If everything got taken down all of the time, where there | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
are not examples, these things are highly contextual and we need to | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
make sure working in partnership with the agencies, civil society | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
groups, if there are groups that know how to target well, there are | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
really good examples of where this works. We are out of time. Thank you | :28:25. | :28:30. | |
very much, Charlotte, Sajda and Keith. Let's know your thoughts on | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
that as well. Let's talk about Peter Sutcliffe. He has been moved to | :28:37. | :28:42. | |
Franklin jail in Durham. A minister of justice spokesman has said he | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
will remain locked up and will never be released for evil crimes. | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
Decisions over whether prisoners are to be sent back to persons from | :28:50. | :28:55. | |
secure hospitals are made by clinical assessments made by | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
independent medical staff. The High Court ordered in 2010 that he should | :28:59. | :29:01. | |
never be released, that was upheld by the Court of Appeal. That | :29:02. | :29:07. | |
statement through from the Minister of Justice. Peter Sutcliffe, known | :29:08. | :29:14. | |
as the Yorkshire Ripper, has been moved to Franklin jail in Durham. | :29:15. | :29:22. | |
Still to come, principles of private estate and studios are to be open to | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
the public. We will find out more about the secrets of Paisley Park, | :29:30. | :29:32. | |
with someone who has discussed them previously with Prince. In the 70s, | :29:33. | :29:38. | |
Tracey Norman was one of the first black women to grace the pages of | :29:39. | :29:42. | |
Italian Vogue. But she had a secret, the fact that she was a transgender | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
woman. She did not tell people about it and when it was found out, she | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
stopped working as a model but now she is back and modelling and I will | :29:50. | :29:51. | |
be talking to her in a little while. Let's catch up with all reviews. | :29:52. | :29:58. | |
Good morning. Police say they believe five men | :29:59. | :30:01. | |
whose bodies were recovered off Camber Sands beach in East Sussex | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
yesterday were friends who came Three of the bodies were recovered | :30:06. | :30:07. | |
yesterday afternoon - two others were found | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
in the evening. Sussex Police say the men - | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
all in their late teens and early 20s - came from the | :30:17. | :30:19. | |
Greater London area. At least 247 people are now known | :30:20. | :30:21. | |
to have died in the earthquake which struck central Italy | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
in the early hours of yesterday. Hundreds more have been injured | :30:27. | :30:29. | |
and it's feared dozens The search went on through | :30:30. | :30:31. | |
the night, and there was a strong aftershock which rocked | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
already damaged buildings. More than 4,300 rescuers | :30:37. | :30:38. | |
are using heavy lifting equipment Immigration fell slightly | :30:39. | :30:40. | |
in the year to March 2016 - but remained well above | :30:41. | :30:47. | |
the government's target. Figures released this morning - | :30:48. | :30:50. | |
which cover the period before Britain voted to leave the EU - | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
show that 327,000 more people came to live in the UK than left - | :30:55. | :31:01. | |
about 9,000 down The figures also showed that 180,000 | :31:02. | :31:03. | |
more EU citizens entered the UK That's a lower figure | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
than non-EU migration. More than half a million | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
teenagers in England, Wales and Northern Ireland | :31:12. | :31:13. | |
are finding out their GCSE There has been a drop | :31:14. | :31:15. | |
in the percentage of A star down from 69 per cent last year - | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
that's the lowest Meanwhile girls continue | :31:21. | :31:32. | |
to outperform boys with the gender This is the last year before a major | :31:33. | :31:35. | |
change begins in how GCSEs Convicted murder Peter Sutcliffe, | :31:36. | :31:39. | |
known as the Yorkshire Ripper, has been moved out of Broadmoor | :31:40. | :31:46. | |
psychiatric hospital 70-year-old Sutcliffe, has spent 32 | :31:47. | :31:48. | |
years inside the high-security institution in Berkshire | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
after murdering 13 women and attempting to kill seven more | :31:53. | :31:54. | |
between 1976 and 1981. His mental health will continue | :31:55. | :31:58. | |
to be assessed in prison. It's estimated the move | :31:59. | :32:00. | |
will save the taxpayer hundreds Police in Australia have | :32:01. | :32:03. | |
charged a 29-year-old French man with the murder | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
of a British backpacker. 21-year-old Mia Ayliffe-Chung, | :32:10. | :32:12. | |
from Derbyshire, was fatally stabbed at a hostel in Queensland by a man | :32:13. | :32:17. | |
shouting allahu akbar. at a hostel in Queensland by a man | :32:18. | :32:24. | |
shouting Allahu Akbar. A 30-year-old British man was also | :32:25. | :32:27. | |
critically injured in the attack Police have named the suspect | :32:28. | :32:29. | |
as Smail Ayad, aged 29. He's also charged with two counts | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
of attempted murder and 12 counts Turkish-backed Syrian rebels say | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
they've captured the town of Jarablus in a major offensive | :32:37. | :32:39. | |
against so-called Islamic State. But Turkey says its intervention | :32:40. | :32:41. | |
is not only intended to target I-S. It also wants to counter what Ankara | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
regards as a security threat posed The outgoing UK Independence Party | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
leader Nigel Farage has appeared at a rally for US presidential | :32:48. | :32:56. | |
candidate Donald Trump, urging Republicans to follow | :32:57. | :32:58. | |
the UK's lead in challenging Yesterday, Mr Trump praised British | :32:59. | :33:00. | |
voters for taking "control Drawing parallels between the EU | :33:01. | :33:08. | |
referendum campaign and the upcoming US election, Mr Farage told | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
the audience to "go out and fight" against Democratic | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
candidate Hillary Clinton. If you want change in this country, | :33:16. | :33:19. | |
you better get your walking boots on, you better get out | :33:20. | :33:22. | |
there campaigning. And remember, and remember, | :33:23. | :33:23. | |
anything is possible if enough decent people are prepared to stand | :33:24. | :33:35. | |
up against the establishment. That is a summary of the latest | :33:36. | :33:54. | |
news. Join me at 11 o'clock. Now we can catch up with the sport, | :33:55. | :34:01. | |
joined by another Olympic star. Another special guest here on the | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
show this morning. We will look back at the fantastic Olympic Games with | :34:06. | :34:09. | |
the man who returned with two gold medals and a bronze medal, gymnast | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
Max Whitlock. What is it like to be home? It feels incredible. It has | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
been such a long journey to get where we world. And to see the | :34:19. | :34:26. | |
amount of support is amazing. We will talk about what you felt in | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
Rio. You spoke earlier about the magnitude of the event. Did you | :34:33. | :34:36. | |
understand how your achievements were being registered back home? No. | :34:37. | :34:42. | |
For it to sink in, I think it will take a long time, but being out | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
there is like being in a bubble, you do not know what is going on back | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
home. It does not feel real. To see the amount of passionate people | :34:53. | :34:57. | |
watching was incredible. We will have a quick look at your | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
performance on the floor. It was fantastic. What is there a | :35:04. | :35:05. | |
difference in Rio compared to London, did you feel more pressure | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
performing? Home pressure is tough. In London. It was brilliant at the | :35:11. | :35:17. | |
same time. But here it was pressure for myself. In London, 19 years old, | :35:18. | :35:21. | |
not expected to get a medal, but here I came to do a job and it was | :35:22. | :35:27. | |
hard. Did you think you would bring home to gold medals and a bronze | :35:28. | :35:33. | |
medal? If I were to predict it, I would not. Beyond my expectations | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
and the whole team, to come back with seven medals is history by a | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
mile. You think this will provide a lasting legacy? For gymnastics in | :35:43. | :35:49. | |
particular and men's gymnastics, will it help future generations come | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
through? I hope so. I believe success breeds success. I'd trade in | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
a local gym club and there are three-year-old gymnast. They are | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
dreaming of being an Olympian because they can look up to people | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
in the club, which is brilliant. What would you say to parents | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
watching at home, parents of young boys in particular. The sport gets a | :36:15. | :36:18. | |
lot of girls in at a younger age. What would you say if their child | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
wants to go and be like Max Whitlock? 100% put them into the | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
sport. I am not biased, but it is probably one of the best sports. As | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
a starter sport, if it will help you with life, it will do wonders. For | :36:35. | :36:39. | |
your body, everything. It is an amazing sport to be part. We can see | :36:40. | :36:45. | |
you on pommel horse. Were you surprised by reaction in the media | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
to how Louis Smith reacted to your gold medal? People were making out | :36:50. | :36:56. | |
he was not happy for you. Do you have a good relationship? We do. We | :36:57. | :37:00. | |
have trained together since I was ten years. We realise how hard it is | :37:01. | :37:06. | |
to get to that point. It always has been a tough competition between the | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
Louis Smith. We are proud last year coming 1-2 in the world and this | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
year coming 1-2. For the sport it is brilliant. What is next for you in | :37:17. | :37:21. | |
terms of training? Do you go on holiday or is it straight back into | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
it? I will take a rest this time. After London I did not take the | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
opportunity and I was straight back in and motivated but this time I | :37:32. | :37:35. | |
will take the rest, start again next year and look forward to Tokyo. You | :37:36. | :37:41. | |
have been playing about in the office. We will look at a picture | :37:42. | :37:47. | |
you took. Hanging above us. Apparently you wanted to do it from | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
the top of the building to see the flaws. Not worried? I saw an | :37:51. | :37:57. | |
opportunity to get a good photo and I took it. We will see if you can do | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
it again now. Just on the edge of the desk. These medals are very | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
heavy. See if you can do it once more. | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. It is that easy, Max | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
Whitlock Alan Sinclair the desk in the BBC's board office. Joanna, back | :38:19. | :38:29. | |
to you. -- Max Whitlock balancing. Joanna, I did not hear what you | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
said. I had my head turned and I missed it. Can you get him to do it | :38:35. | :38:38. | |
again the? Can you do it again? Just for | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
Joanna. I would try it for you but... | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
That is impressive. Thanks. I have some breaking news | :38:48. | :38:58. | |
about A.D. Services for children in Stafford at the County Hospital, | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
children and people under 18. An interim measure is coming into | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
effect from 10am will stop it has been force -- in force 40 minutes. | :39:08. | :39:16. | |
The service has been suspended because senior clinicians have | :39:17. | :39:18. | |
advised it is not currently clinically safe, and the adult A.D. | :39:19. | :39:29. | |
Is not affected, that remains open, but the children's A has been | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
deemed not to be clinically safe. Concerns have been highlighted about | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
the lack of sufficient numbers of staff at levels in paediatric and | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
anaesthetic training including resuscitation and life-support | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
competency. The issues are being discussed by staff and they are | :39:51. | :39:56. | |
looking at it. In the meantime, the services for children and those | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
under 18 have been suspended at the County Hospital. | :40:01. | :40:02. | |
Prince's private estate and studios are set to be opened to the public. | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
Daily tours of the Paisley Park complex in Minnesota are due | :40:06. | :40:08. | |
to start in October, six months after the singer's sudden | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson, said opening the park was something | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
With me now is Matt Everitt, a presenter on the BBC's 6 Music, | :40:15. | :40:22. | |
who was one of the last journalists to interview Prince in the UK. | :40:23. | :40:25. | |
You talk to him about Paisley Park and know more about it than the rest | :40:26. | :40:32. | |
of us. We met in 2014 and we talked about a lot but we talked about the | :40:33. | :40:39. | |
mythology around Paisley Park. It is unremarkable looking building, like | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
a grey branch of Ikea, really. It is not like Grace land, ornate, it is | :40:45. | :40:51. | |
plain. It has become this enormously mythical building. He kept his | :40:52. | :40:58. | |
entire world in there. Very few musicians decide to have such | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
control over every part of his career. It focused on Paisley Park | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
which cost 10 million dollars to build. Funded by the success of his | :41:07. | :41:13. | |
albums. You have recording studios, full venues, not little, shoddy | :41:14. | :41:19. | |
places to rehearse, but where audiences could come. Studio suites, | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
a fashion suite. An enormous complex. It does not look much but | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
everything he needed to create was in there. It is interesting to look | :41:30. | :41:35. | |
at because it is nondescript. You do not see many windows. I think his | :41:36. | :41:42. | |
privacy was important. It is right by a road. Why did he settle on that | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
spot? One of the myths about the place, I think you can see a pyramid | :41:49. | :41:56. | |
on the roof. A bit like the Queen having a flag on the top of | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
Buckingham Palace. What is exciting for fans is the Prince vaults, the | :42:01. | :42:06. | |
legendary vault where he put in unreleased albums and videos. | :42:07. | :42:10. | |
Finished works he did not release and that was something I asked | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
about. He said it was true. We were talking about Purple Rain and he | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
said he had an album he made at the time that has not been released. | :42:20. | :42:25. | |
What? ! A whole record at the same time. Will it be released? Nobody | :42:26. | :42:31. | |
knows. Now the doors of Paisley Park will be open, people will hope the | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
music will be released. Finished albums and songs that have never | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
seen the light of day. It will be incredibly lucrative. You will make | :42:42. | :42:47. | |
money? The estate of Prince does not need the money. It will be run by | :42:48. | :42:54. | |
the same people who run the home of Elvis, Grace land. The organisation | :42:55. | :43:00. | |
will be spot on. I think it will be an important musical spot, a place | :43:01. | :43:06. | |
of pilgrimage for music fans. Reaction to his death was fast and | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
he meant so much to people worldwide. I think there will be a | :43:11. | :43:16. | |
lot of visits. When does it start? October. Probably about ?25 entry. | :43:17. | :43:23. | |
Not hugely expensive. We do not know how long it will be open. Presumably | :43:24. | :43:28. | |
long-term, if the Grace land people are involved. Journalists have been | :43:29. | :43:36. | |
inside and there are reports on what it looks like. Below go, the | :43:37. | :43:44. | |
squiggle, is everywhere. -- the logo, on carpets, rugs, wall | :43:45. | :43:52. | |
hangings. It is truly an entrance into his world. All those albums | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
were done there, videos were shot there. When I met him I asked, the | :43:58. | :44:03. | |
myth about Paisley Park, the whole thing is wired for sound. Any room | :44:04. | :44:09. | |
that you're in, you can plug in a guitar and play, in case the | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
inspiration struck, that is the myth and I asked him if it was true. You | :44:14. | :44:19. | |
could be on the toilet and have a moment of inspiration. He said it | :44:20. | :44:23. | |
was not true. That is disappointing. He said, don't say it isn't, let the | :44:24. | :44:30. | |
myth carry on, it is a good story. He was good at myth-making. I | :44:31. | :44:35. | |
presume you will be one of the first in line. I hope so. All decked out | :44:36. | :44:38. | |
in purple. Thanks. As a young black teenager in 1970s, | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
Tracey Norman was thrilled Her career took off and she landed | :44:44. | :44:46. | |
coveted jobs fronting adverts for major cosmetic brands | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
and gracing the pages But Tracey was keeping a secret | :44:51. | :44:52. | |
that she desperately hoped no-one would discover - that in fact | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
she was a transgender woman. When the truth came out, | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
her fears were realised and her Well 36 years later, | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
her face is back in the spotlight thank you so much for joining us. | :45:05. | :45:25. | |
Obviously, you are sort of going back to something that you knew and | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
loved, modelling, but a career that was ended because of the person that | :45:30. | :45:36. | |
you had been burners. Take us back to the 1960s, when you were growing | :45:37. | :45:40. | |
up as a blurry. Transgender was not understood. That was it like them | :45:41. | :45:49. | |
for you? It wasn't at all very difficult for me because I was a | :45:50. | :45:53. | |
quiet and shy person. So what I did was sit back and watch the women | :45:54. | :46:02. | |
around me, because I had no foresight into how to behave. So | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
that is why I watched my mum, my grandmother, my aunts and my | :46:07. | :46:10. | |
teachers and girlfriends I had made at school. And you told your mum at | :46:11. | :46:19. | |
1830 did think you were a woman. How did she react? It was the day of my | :46:20. | :46:26. | |
graduation in fact, and we went outside after the ceremony, sat on | :46:27. | :46:32. | |
the steps and I handed my mum my diploma and I proceeded to tell her | :46:33. | :46:38. | |
my truth. She just held open her arms and gave me a big hug and told | :46:39. | :46:44. | |
me that she loved me, and that she would support me in no matter what I | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
wanted to do. She has been my biggest cheerleader. That is lovely, | :46:49. | :46:54. | |
so in that environment you are surrounded by love and | :46:55. | :46:57. | |
understanding, so he went out into the big world and started modelling | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
and felt like it was something you could not talk openly about. How did | :47:01. | :47:09. | |
you feel? Being young and a lack of fear, and getting into the fashion | :47:10. | :47:13. | |
business, it was very exciting for me. My fear came later because I | :47:14. | :47:19. | |
started working and my career started moving very quickly. So I | :47:20. | :47:27. | |
was always afraid that my truth would be revealed by someone and | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
then my work would stop. Was that something that ate away at you | :47:33. | :47:37. | |
privately? Yes, it did, and that's why I said a prayer every day before | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
I left the house, so I could continue to work, and to try to | :47:42. | :47:48. | |
better my life. What did you feel would happen if people found out? | :47:49. | :47:59. | |
The thing that did happen. I would have stopped working as a model, and | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
my life took a dramatic turn. Mines were not as open back then. There | :48:04. | :48:11. | |
was much negativity towards the transgender community, and back then | :48:12. | :48:13. | |
we weren't really identified as transgender. We were being called | :48:14. | :48:22. | |
very negative and hateful names. So you were fearful, obviously, how | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
people would react? And when it emerged that you were transgender, | :48:27. | :48:31. | |
described exactly, what was the first you knew some of that people | :48:32. | :48:38. | |
knew, and how do they treat you? Well, I was on the set with a | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
magazine, and I was booked to do this shooting. And I had been in | :48:43. | :48:48. | |
front of the camera, and when I got in front of the camera, and the | :48:49. | :48:55. | |
producer tells me what they want from me, I have a tendency to get | :48:56. | :49:01. | |
tunnel vision. So, as I was doing that, a person came into the room, | :49:02. | :49:08. | |
and called over the editor of that particular magazine, and they had a | :49:09. | :49:11. | |
conversation, and while they were having that conversation, the left | :49:12. | :49:18. | |
side of the room felt very negative. And I felt as though something was | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
up, but I wasn't quite sure, so the photographer noticed that I was | :49:24. | :49:27. | |
losing concentration so he asked me to rest. And when I arrested, I | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
happened to look over to the site to see who came in the door, and it was | :49:32. | :49:37. | |
that I recognised that I had worked with, prior, at that same magazine. | :49:38. | :49:44. | |
And then, after that, the editor closed the set down. I went home and | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
Ike called the agency the next day, and that is when my work literally | :49:51. | :49:57. | |
stopped. There was no room for work any more. There was no go sees, as | :49:58. | :50:06. | |
they said back then, and there was no testing for me. Did anyone speak | :50:07. | :50:12. | |
to you and tell you why, or did you just know? No one said anything, and | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
this went on for two weeks, me calling into the agency everyday. | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
And even when I went into the agency to speak to management, to find out | :50:21. | :50:26. | |
exactly what was going on, no one mentioned anything to me. You had | :50:27. | :50:33. | |
been on the pages of Vogue, you had a very successful career, you love | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
what you are doing, and then just in that instant your world came | :50:38. | :50:40. | |
crashing down around you. How did you cope? I went into a depression, | :50:41. | :50:47. | |
I didn't realise I was depressed, but later on in life when I thought | :50:48. | :50:52. | |
about it, I had went into this deep depression, because it bothered me | :50:53. | :51:00. | |
more that it was, one, my own race, and two, the community that I was a | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
part of, the gay community. They outed me. And so what happened was | :51:05. | :51:19. | |
that my life took a dramatic turn. The love of my mother, because I was | :51:20. | :51:26. | |
living in New York at the time and I was not able to hold onto my | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
apartment. So I went back home in with my mother's love and support I | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
was able to come through this time of trouble that I was having in my | :51:35. | :51:39. | |
life. So now, at this stage of your life, you have been welcomed back | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
into the world of modelling. How does it feel? You must feel yourself | :51:45. | :51:48. | |
like a very different person? Yes. It feels fantastic to be back with | :51:49. | :52:03. | |
Clairol, and promote the Nice'n'Easy brand, and to promote 50 years of a | :52:04. | :52:08. | |
reunion with the UK. You must feel very different from the girl that we | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
can see gracing the pack you are holding up in the promotional | :52:13. | :52:18. | |
picture all that time ago? Yes, it is more relaxed atmosphere, it is | :52:19. | :52:23. | |
more of a welcoming and accepting atmosphere, so Clairol is allowing | :52:24. | :52:26. | |
me to be my true self, which I was very happy about. You have been | :52:27. | :52:32. | |
through, obviously, the worst of times, and you have come through. | :52:33. | :52:39. | |
What life lesson would you pass on? Life lessons that I would pass on is | :52:40. | :52:46. | |
that hatred really has no place in the world. If you take my life, and | :52:47. | :52:53. | |
what over trying to do, it was to better my life, but because of | :52:54. | :53:00. | |
hatred, I wasn't able to continue to do that. And so my life took a | :53:01. | :53:08. | |
dramatic turn. But with the love of Clairol, inviting me back, and | :53:09. | :53:11. | |
promoting this new line, and allowing me to be me, it has been | :53:12. | :53:18. | |
absolutely rewarding for me. It has justly been a long journey, and | :53:19. | :53:24. | |
understanding of what it means to be transgender is so very different now | :53:25. | :53:28. | |
to how it was all those years ago. You have that moment when your left | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
hand in an instant, when you knew that people around you knew you were | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
transgender, but in the intervening years, you have been the same | :53:37. | :53:39. | |
person, you have been a transgender woman. Adjusting, I suppose, to how | :53:40. | :53:47. | |
people around you would see you, was there a moment, through when you | :53:48. | :53:50. | |
felt like you could start to openly speak about it? How recently was | :53:51. | :53:58. | |
that, when was that moment? The moment was when New York mag wanted | :53:59. | :54:06. | |
my story. I had been living such a private life. They asked me to come | :54:07. | :54:12. | |
in. When was that? Sorry to interrupt. That was back in | :54:13. | :54:20. | |
December. Oh gosh, so all away since then you hadn't been talking openly | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
about you? No, I haven't. How does it feel now then, to be "A well, I | :54:27. | :54:36. | |
have been able to get this off of my chest -- to be able to be open? It | :54:37. | :54:45. | |
has been really rewarding. It is really great to have you, to see | :54:46. | :54:48. | |
what you are up to full stop thank you, let me just read out one text | :54:49. | :54:52. | |
message saying, what is the problem, she is stunning. Shame on the | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
narrow-minded attitude of the majority. Thank you very much, | :54:58. | :55:02. | |
Tracey. Thank you. We want to take you back to that developing story at | :55:03. | :55:05. | |
camber Sands. Sussex Police have just in the last half hour said they | :55:06. | :55:08. | |
believe that the five men whose bodies they recovered yesterday were | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
all friends who had gone to the beach in East Sussex to spend the | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
day there. Police say the five were in their late teens to early 20s and | :55:17. | :55:20. | |
had travelled from Greater London. A member of the public reported seeing | :55:21. | :55:23. | |
another body in the sea that has not been found. Duncan, this just sounds | :55:24. | :55:33. | |
like an absolutely dreadful tragedy. Yes, and they are exactly the words | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
of the police. They describe it as an absolutely awful tragedy. As you | :55:39. | :55:43. | |
said, a group of friends came down from London on a beautiful stretch | :55:44. | :55:52. | |
of Sussex coastline, and five of them died. It is extraordinary. They | :55:53. | :55:57. | |
were here to enjoy the Sands, to enjoy the water, they were not | :55:58. | :56:00. | |
migrants or anything like that, just a group of friends in their late | :56:01. | :56:03. | |
teens and early 20s. We don't know what happened. We don't know whether | :56:04. | :56:07. | |
they got turned by the tide, got stuck on a sandbank, we have been | :56:08. | :56:11. | |
speaking to a the families today may have been telling us about how the | :56:12. | :56:17. | |
beach undulates and the tides can come in quite quickly but it was | :56:18. | :56:21. | |
just a tragic accident, involving these five young men. We have been | :56:22. | :56:24. | |
speaking to councillors here who say this is generally a very safe beach. | :56:25. | :56:29. | |
Even though there was another Brazilian man who died here last | :56:30. | :56:33. | |
month. Overall, down the years, thousands and thousands of families | :56:34. | :56:36. | |
have come here and enjoyed their holidays without any kind of | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
incident, but some reason it all went tragically wrong yesterday, and | :56:40. | :56:43. | |
took the lives of these five men. It is weird yesterday that the beach | :56:44. | :56:47. | |
was busy, another hot day, did no one see anything? Certainly people | :56:48. | :56:55. | |
went into the water to help them. We spoke to one person who said that | :56:56. | :56:58. | |
one of the men received mouth-to-mouth resuscitation in | :56:59. | :57:01. | |
water up to his waist, so obviously somebody from the beach tried to | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
intervene. It doesn't sound as though it was enough, though. There | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
were about 25,000 people on this beach yesterday, scenes of chaos | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
when this happened. Three bodies were brought ashore in the | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
afternoon, a further two were found by members of the public in the | :57:17. | :57:19. | |
evening. It may have been that they were doctors or nurses on the beach, | :57:20. | :57:22. | |
but on this occasion these five men were not able to be saved. Another | :57:23. | :57:27. | |
issue has come up, Joanna, that of whether there were lifeguards on the | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
beach. This is a beach that doesn't have lifeguards, but many others are | :57:32. | :57:34. | |
saying many other beaches don't have lifeguards and they are just as safe | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
as this. So police are describing this as a desperate tragedy. | :57:39. | :57:41. | |
Terribly sad, thank you very much, Duncan. Lots and lots of you getting | :57:42. | :57:53. | |
in touch following our discussion on the burkini ban on some beaches in | :57:54. | :57:59. | |
France. One criticise either we were a free society enjoying all kinds of | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
fashion. Maybe we should ban wet suits because not enough leisure is | :58:04. | :58:09. | |
shown. Wendy on e-mail, I have red hair and very pale skin, I have | :58:10. | :58:12. | |
always worn a thin pair of leggings under my swimsuit, plus a shawl to | :58:13. | :58:18. | |
protect my upper body. It is outrageous the French are demanding | :58:19. | :58:19. | |
people expose their skin. Glittering Planet Strictly | :58:20. | :58:21. | |
is in our skies. Across the country, | :58:22. | :58:34. | |
excited reports are pouring in There, there, there! | :58:35. | :58:36. | |
Wow, look at them! Discover the hidden world | :58:37. | :58:41. | |
of our favourite animals... | :58:42. | :58:44. |