09/09/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

I'm Chloe Tilley, in for Victoria - welcome to the programme.

The biggest education shake-up in decades -

Prime Minister Theresa May says every school in England will get

the chance to become a grammar school, but insists there will be no

return to the past of the 11-plus era of winners and losers.

The gold rush has kicked off again in Rio.

We picked up five golds on day one of the Paralympics -

Dame Sarah Storey has become Britain's greatest female

Paralympian of all time, getting her 12th gold medal.

And, in an exclusive interview for this programme,

She helped Edward Snowden, the man behind America's biggest

leak of top secret intelligence, escape to Russia.

She has now returned to the UK for the first time, having been

Tonight sees the premiere of Snowden, a political

How about we just start with your name, OK?

I work as a private contractor for the NSA, the CIA.

I've worked in various jobs in the intelligence industry

We are going to be talking about statins.

The biggest-ever study into the pills that are meant

to prevent heart attacks and strokes says that the benefits

Do you take them, or have you in the past?

What were your experiences of the drug?

Get in touch about that and all the stories we're

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Our top story today - Theresa May's set to announce

later this morning the details of what's being called

the biggest change to England's education system in a decade.

Every secondary school could be given the opportunity

to become a grammar school, but they might have to meet targets

on how many pupils they take from poorer families.

Theresa May's ambition is to give every pupil

Her plan involves a bigger role for grammar schools.

Selecting pupils according to test scores, they are controversial.

Critics believe they entrench privilege.

But the Prime Minister says she wants merit, not background,

And, in a speech later today, she will make the case

for a new wave of grammar schools, with certain conditions attached.

Selective schools will have to meet targets on how many pupils they take

from poorer families, or set up a new non-selective free school.

To further support social mobility, universities that want to charge

higher fees would be made to set up a new school,

or sponsor an existing underperforming one.

And the Government is also looking at relaxing the entry

One example of the kind of grammar school Theresa May would like to see

is already in place at a school in Birmingham, where up to a quarter

of places are set aside for pupils from lower-income families.

But, with Labour voices among those questioning

the merits of selection, the plans are sure

Our political correspondent Ben Wright is at Westminster.

Is it clear how the details of this would actually work?

Not at all clear. Justine Greening, the Education Secretary, has done a

number of interviews this morning and has been pressed several times

on how many grammar schools we might see at the end of this, how many

pupils will go to them, what will the entrance criteria be, what sort

of conditions will there be for new grammar schools to take in a

proportion of children from disadvantaged backgrounds, something

the Government says will happen, but exactly how is not known. The

specifics are vague, we are at the beginning of a consultation, we will

get a so-called green paper on Monday, there will be a lot of

consultation with proper plans for a bill emerging sometime after that.

At the moment all we know is that the Government have revived interest

in grammar schools, and it is very significant, Brad go, because the

argument about grammar schools has been dormant for about two decades

-- radical, since the building of new grammar schools was banned in

1998, nobody wanted to touch this, David Cameron did not, he thought

they were divisive and did nothing to help social mobility. Teresa May

has a different approach and it is a significant speech she will be

making on this later this morning. And we'll bring you that

announcement from Theresa May live later in the programme -

we're expecting that But sometimes these things do run a

little bit late. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary North Korea has carried out what's

thought to be its most powerful test yet of a nuclear warhead,

in defiance of Huge earth tremors

were detected overnight Experts say it could mean

the country is a step closer Stephen Evans is in the South

Korean capital Seoul. Good morning to you. We know what

North Korea is claiming, presumably many experts working to try to

verify exactly what has happened? Yes, there is no doubt that there

was a nuclear test this morning, the military here in South Korea have

confirmed it, and also North Korean TV has confirmed it. The announcer,

that very familiar and answer, has been on North Korean TV saying the

device, the bomb, was exploded underground to preserve the dignity

of the country and the existence of the country, so no doubt about it.

There has been condemnation from Japan, Russia, China, here in South

Korea as well. As the US wakes up I have no doubt that will continue.

The big question, though, what can they do about it? There was a fourth

nuclear test back in January, sanctions were tightened, can they

tighten them much further? Hard to see unless you really bring the

economy to a halt and cause serious pain to ordinary people.

OK, thank you very much for that. It's been a highly successful

opening day for the Para GB team There were five gold medals

for Britain, including one for cyclist Dame Sarah Storey,

who's become Britain's most successful female

Paralympian of all time, after winning the 12th

gold of her career. The British team won 11 medals

in total, putting them in second It's been a highly successful

opening day for the Para GB team 12 golds in two sports

across seven different Games, A

swimmer-turned-cyclist-turned-icon, Dame Sarah Storey needed one more

gold to become Britain's most In the C5 3000m pursuit final,

the race is over if you Her team-mate Crystal Lane

was the woman in front, knowing As Storey passed her,

she passed Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson, straight

into the record books. As in the Olympics,

Great Britain seemed Earlier, hunting the first

British gold of the Games, Megan Giglia was chasing

American Jamie Whitmore Soon Whatmore got that

feeling, she is behind you. Gold to Giglia - victim of a stroke

four years ago, this morning The man on the back of this bike,

Steve Bate, is the first visually impaired man to climb an American

mountain, and was persuaded He and guide Adam Duggleby were too

quick for their Dutch opponents in their final,

and Bate has scaled another summit. What they can do on wheels,

Paralympics GB can Ollie Hynd qualified fastest

for the S8 400m freestyle final. Soon it was a case of just how fast

could he go? No-one else in the frame,

Hynd against the clock. Hynd won, a new world record

and his second Paralympic gold. Bethany Firth set a record

on the way to the S14 backstroke final, and in that final

she went and broke it again. An unforgettable day

for the Northern Irish swimmer. Brazil's best-known

para-athlete, he had won ten Paralympic golds before

this, but none like this. These Games have been surrounded

by trouble, but these are the scenes And stay with us for more

on the Paralympics. Coming up shortly, we'll be speaking

live to some of the friends An operation to rescue

dozens of tourists trapped overnight in cable cars

in the French Alps has resumed. 45 people were left stranded

above the glaciers of Mont Blanc at an altitude of more than 12,000

feet, after cable cars ground to a halt when their wires got

tangled in strong winds. A helicopter rescue operation had

to be suspended when night fell A French police officer has been

stabbed during an operation to arrest three women in connection

with a car found packed with gas canisters near the Notre Dame

cathedral in Paris. Police opened fire

during the operation in Boussy-Saint-Antoine,

south-east of the capital, Officials said the suspects

were "radicalised" and appeared to have been preparing

an immediate attack. A major review of statins says

the anti-cholesterol drug is safe and effective,

and that any harmful side effects The study, published in The Lancet,

says that reports of statins causing muscle pain were based

on unreliable evidence. The review has been backed

by several major organisations but some critics, including

the British Medical Journal, claim it is not independent and has

overlooked crucial data. In Britain, for example,

maybe about a third of people who've already had a heart attack or stroke

are not taking a statin. What the reasons are for doing that,

it's difficult to know. But anxiety about side-effects,

concern about "Should I take a tablet?"

may well be driving that. I think if they and their doctors

really have a better sense of how big the benefits are,

and how small the harms are, then that may allow them to make

a better-informed choice Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

and his challenger Owen Smith have Both men faced jeers

and heckles from a fractious BBC One Question Time

audience in Oldham. There were testy exchanges

on subjects including Brexit, Labour's electoral hopes

and Mr Corbyn's attempt to deal with All of us together are going to make

sure we defeat any aspects of anti-Semitism within our party

and within our society. On that, I'm sure we're

absolutely agreed, yeah? We are agreed, but I'm not sure

you're entirely Owen, that is a pretty unfair way

of saying it. I have spent my life

opposing racism in any form, Some of your Jewish Labour MPs

do not feel that Labour under your leadership

is a safe place, Jeremy. I support them in their right

to to their identity I support them when they're being

abused, just as I would support anybody else who's suffering any

kind of racism. Nasa has launched its first space

probe aimed at gathering The spacecraft Osiris-Rex has

started a seven-year round trip to get rubble

from an ancient space rock. It's hoped the particles could hold

clues to the origin of life, not just on Earth, but elsewhere

in the solar system. Britain's native dormouse could be

vulnerable to extinction, after suffering a dramatic decline

in numbers over the last decade-and-a-half,

according to a new report by the wildlife charity the People's

Trust For Endangered Species. The tiny hazel dormouse was once

widespread throughout England and Wales, but its population

is estimated to have fallen 40% The decline is being blamed

on the loss of hedgerows, poor management of woodlands

and warmer winters. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30am. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. Olly Foster is at

the BBC Sport Centre. Success already at the Paralympics

and of course it has come from the cycling.

Yes, they topped their own mini medal table in London and Beijing,

they have already got four medals after the first day of 11 days of

competition in Rio. They clearly benefit from this fantastic

facilities at British Cycling had at what has been labelled the medal

factory, Manchester's velodrome, not too far from here, the British home

of cycling, and an awful lot of funding. UK Sport really target word

they think the medals will come from and Para of cycling in the years

leading up to London got about ?4 million and reaped the reward with

22 medals. For Rio, they have had almost ?7 million, they have built

up a group of world-class Para athlete and at the heart of that we

have seen Dame Sarah Storey winning her first gold in the 3000 metres

pursuit. Would you believe this is her seventh Paralympics?! She

started out as a swimmer, got any infection and could not carry on,

switched to cycling 11 years ago, that was Megan Giglia who also won a

gold in the pursuit, she had a stroke three years ago, and there

was gold for the tandem men as well. Let's hear now from Dame Sarah

Storey about what it means to get 12 Paralympic golds, which overtakes

Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson. So she's an incredible spirit,

an incredibly special lady. The first person I spoke

to when I came off the track She's been a mentor and a huge

inspiration to me my whole career, You know, if I have any sort

of issues I need to ask anyone Starting out as a Paralympic man she

was 14, and more medal chances over the next few days.

Let's talk about tennis, more shocks at the US Open, people

that means it has ended her reign as world number one, she has been world

number 143.5 years. Let's show you how she lost to Karolina Pliskova,

went out on a whimper, really, double faulting on match point.

Discover into a second week at a major for the first time in her

career and now into the final. Serena Williams says, I played

back-to-back matches, I was not tired, but she said she had been

struggling with a knee problem. Surely that 23rd major title will

come at some point, just not this year.

We did stay up very late the other night to watch Andy Murray go out,

which was disappointing, at the US Open. At least one Murray brother is

in the final. All eyes on Jamie Murray, who over the last couple of

years has become a very, doubles player. He won the

Australian open title back in January, with his new partner, Bruno

Soares. They beat the world number one players from France. Murray and

Suarez looking for their second grand slam title together. They have

got every chance of doing that as they face the unseeded pair. Put

your money on Jamie every time! Thanks, Olly, speak to you later on.

Great Britain's Paralympians have won five gold medals on the first

Dame Sarah Storey has become Britain's most successful female

Paralympian of all time, winning the 12th gold medal

of her career Steve Bate, with pilot Adam Duggleby,

won cycling golds for the men"s B 4000 metre individual pursuit,

and Megan Giglia took gold in the Womens C1-2-3

And gold in swimming for Bethany Firth in the women's

While Ollie Hynd took gold in the men's 100

Great Britain have won 11 medals now, and are currently in second

place in the medal table behind China.

We have heard that before, second place in the medal table, let's hope

it stays that way! Roisin O'Shea is here,

she is the agent of Sarah Storey and has talked to her daily

in the lead up to her Rio campaign. Over Skype, we've got

Malcolm McCausland, who has known the world's fastest Paralympian,

Jason Smyth, since In Cambridge, Chris Whitaker

is the former agent of Ollie Hynd. And from Oswestry, Jane Johnson,

who is cyclist Megan Thank you all for speaking to us.

Rochina, I've got to start with you. I stayed up late to watch Sarah

Storey last night. What was it like for you to watch that amazing

achievement? Pretty emotional. Really inspiring. You know, knowing

how hard she has worked and how much she sacrifices. It's just great to

have seen her go and win it. And win it so well, as well, it's great.

Talking about Sarah, she is incredible. We heard that the

beginning of the programme, she started in swimming, found out it

wasn't too much of a challenge, moved over to cycling. Her

disability is to do with her hand. It explained how that affects her.

It really doesn't. She would be the last person to tell you that she's

got a disability. She, you know, she races able-bodied in her road racing

team, podium ambition. She competes in training with able-bodied riders.

In terms of her disability, she is missing a hand, but it has not

stopped her in anything that she has done. And this is just proof of

that. I want to bring in Jane at this point. Megan won gold as well

last night. In fact, she won the first goal. It is a very different

story from Megan about how she found her way to the Paralympics. Good

morning, absolutely, yes, what fantastic way for Megan to start her

Paralympic campaign, hopefully the first of many golds. Yes, Megan's

story is very different in the sense that she hadn't cycled competitively

prior to her stroke, she had always cycled recreationally. But after the

stroke she began cycling as part of her rehabilitation. I think

initially never dreaming that she would make Rio. But as her training

came along, and after being accepted on the Para-cycling team, she really

started to believe that she could make her way to Rio. And here she

is, a Paralympic champion. For Megan, it is incredible. I right in

thinking that the stroke was in 2013, she is paralysed down one side

of her body? That's right. After the stroke she woke up with temporary

paralysis down her right hand side. She still has intermittent paralysis

-- complete paralysis. Depending on whether or not she has had a

seizure. She has of a riot of neurological issues to manage after

the stroke. -- a variety of neurological issues. It has been a

jam-packed birthday in Rio, hopefully it will continue for para-

GP. Let's speak about swimming. Chris Whitaker, former agent and

friend of Olly. Amazing, weekend, night, his achievement -- amazing

for Ollie Hynd last night. Talk us through his challenges? I mean,

there are lots of words to describe Olly. He has a condition, a muscle

wasting condition. I don't know whether you saw before the start of

this race last night, but despite that he is able to train very well,

to make the most of what he can do, and his challenges, and he is

meticulous in his preparation and his hunger. And his approach, I

mean, this is a person who is now a double Paralympic champion, world

champion, double European champion and Commonwealth champion. And he

still wanted more. The hunger that he has the success is insatiable. He

has a very good support network at home. He is very, very humble with

the success, and does a lot in his community as well. He is an

all-round great athlete and great person. Often when you watch

swimming, the margin of a victory, even the margin between gold and

bronze, is pretty small. It was pretty big last night. It was a

significant win. He paced really well. He qualified with a

significant degree of advantage, and then kind of pasted really well in

the final. He swam better than I expected him to do. Normally what

happens in the 400 is level pegging, and such is Olly's power and

strength that he kind of tends to go away, but he started as he meant to

go on last night. I think that's testament to not only his hard work

but the hard work of the team behind him. And the whole Paralympic GB

swimming setup, which is superb. His coach Glenn Smith, who he has worked

with for a number of years, does fantastic work with strength and

conditioning. He literally leaves no stone unturned in his quest for

success. We are talking about somebody who even had a sauna

installed in his house to help his recovery. So the degree of

preparation that every Paralympian athlete goes into the be successful

at this level and make the most of who they are, despite their

limitations, shouldn't be underestimated. I want to bring

Malcolm in at this stage to talk about Jason. Jason is the fastest

Paralympian. But he only has 10% vision. Yes, that's right. At eight

years of age he was diagnosed as having star got disease, which means

that he only has 10% vision, it affects his central vision system.

It is just a condition that he has to live with. It is incredible to

watch. This sounds ridiculous probably to you, but watching him,

he goes so fast, is that not frightening with only 10% vision? Do

it think so. I know that they can't run indoors in the 60 metres -- you

would think so. They can't see the starting time. But, he doesn't know

what it is like to have 2020 vision, he has had this all his life. For

him, his range of what he can see is really what he has become accustomed

to. Before the Paralympics darted, I was lucky enough to speak to stare a

story on this programme. -- Sarah Storey. The dedication, commitment

and total single-mindedness. She was only going that the gold, there was

nothing there. Do you think Paralympians have to work harder and

train harder than Olympians, as some people would suggest Wesley in terms

of competing, I don't think so. Sarah never under estimate her

competitor, whoever she is racing, whether it is on the road or on the

track. In terms of having to work harder, I don't think they do have

to work any harder than an Olympian. I think they are all as focused and

as dedicated. You know, there is a certain calibre of person that

becomes an Olympic athlete or a Paralympic athlete. That is

something that, you know, it is such a unique, prestigious status. And I

think whether you are a Paralympic athlete or an Olympic athlete, or an

athlete aiming for that, I don't think it is any easier for any of

them or harder. She does a lot within her community. She goes back

to her old school and talks to the children, which presumably must be a

huge inspiration for them. Absolutely. Anyone who has ever met

her, whether it is somewhere you might bump into her and she was the

say hello, or, for me, working with her, she is an incredible

inspiration to anyone. You know immediately that there is something

different about Sarah. And she is absolutely committed to making sure

that every, you know, schoolchildren, that they realise

that they could be anything that they want to be. You know, don't let

things stop you. I think the fact that she is a Paralympic athlete is

separate to that. She is very, very dedicated in paving the way for

future athletes, in whatever sport they go down. Chris, how important

is that to the likes of Olly, to be that inspiration. Just with young

people generally, they can go out and do whatever they want to do?

Absolutely. You speak to Olly, the first thing he will tell you is that

to him, it is about his ability, not his disability. I think that, I have

worked with a number of Paralympians, and that is what it is

like. There is this kind of DNA that cuts through the Paralympics, they

are all about defining what they can do, about pushing their potential,

and living their life. Not only in success, but also about being

positive role models in the community and spreading the word of

disability, which is really important to have this opportunity

in Paralympics, to be talking on a programme like this. And to be

promoting positive possibilities for disabled people. Jane, for people

who did not see your girlfriend Megan Giglia's race last night. At

the end of the race she was holding a picture of the young boy. Just

explain what she said after the race? That's right, yes. Megan likes

to dedicate each one of her races to a young person or their family who

are suffering with the after-effects of a stroke. She really wants to do

that to try and give that person and local birds of extra motivation and

encouragement in their recovery -- to give that person a little bit of

extra motivation. This little boy has literally just had a stroke. He

is starting his recovery. She helped is picture up to say, believe in

anything you want to believe in and you can do it. That's right. It is

really, really important to Megan that she does help to ideally raised

the profile of, you know, ways of dealing with the effects of brain

injury. And also, you know, she is a keen to support other stroke

survivors through their journey and their recovery -- she is very keen.

Malcolm, what about Jason? Jason presumably must be a huge

inspiration to young people in Ireland? Absolutely, he is a huge

inspiration to everyone. He has talked about a lot as being the

Usain Bolt of Paralympic athletics. It is an epithet that weighs heavily

on his shoulders. But he himself uses it as an inspiration to run

faster, achieve more. And leave a legacy as a Paralympic athlete. And

what races has he got? Has he just got 100m? Well, there is only 100m

in his particular category this time. He had 100 and 200 in London,

100 and 200 in Beijing. But this time he is only allowed to defend

his 100m title. That final is this afternoon, just after 3pm. We will

be watching with bated breath. Thank you all of you for joining us,

Roisin, thank you for coming into the studio.

Still to come: An exclusive interview with Wikileaks editor

Sarah Harrison, who helped Edward Snowdon, the man responsible

for the biggest leak of top secret intelligence files the world

And we'll get the latest on the operation to rescue more

than 45 people stranded overnight in cable cars on the French Alps.

Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

Theresa May's set to announce later this morning the details today

of what's being called the biggest change to England's

Every secondary school could be given the opportunity

to become a grammar school, but schools might have to meet

targets on how many pupils they take from poorer families.

Labour says the Government is failing to tackle

North Korea has carried out what's thought to be its most powerful test

yet of a nuclear warhead, in defiance of

Huge earth tremors were detected overnight

Experts say it could mean the country is a step closer

It's been a highly successful opening day for the Para GB team

There were five gold medals for Britain, including one

for cyclist Dame Sarah Storey - who becomes Britain's most

successful female Paralympian of all time, after winning

The British team won 11 medals in total, putting them in second

A major review of statins says the anti-cholesterol drug

is safe and effective, and that any harmful side effects

The study, published in The Lancet, says that reports of statins causing

muscle pain were based on unreliable evidence.

The review has been backed by several major organisations

but some critics, including the British Medical Journal,

claim it is not independent and has overlooked crucial data.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and his challenger Owen Smith have

Both men faced heckles from a BBC One Question Time

There were testy exchanges on subjects including Brexit,

Labour's electoral hopes and Mr Corbyn's attempt to deal with

Nasa has launched its first space probe aimed at gathering

The spacecraft Osiris-Rex has started a seven-year

round trip to get rubble from an ancient space rock.

It's hoped the particles could hold clues to the origin of life,

not just on Earth, but elsewhere in the solar system.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am.

Lots of you getting in touch about grammar schools, we expect to hear

from the Prime Minister Theresa May at 10:45am with more details of

those plans about expanding grammar schools. An e-mail from Anthony,

there is no doubt the grammar school and public school teaching

environment benefits pupils tremendously and when boarding is

added into the mix, a fully rounded self-confident and aspirational

individual should emerge. This currently privileged start to life

should be available to everybody, schooling should be taken out of

urban locations and placed in an accessible rural locations.

Another, with the Brexit minefield to contentment, it is extraordinary

that Theresa May should make a grammar school revival, which was

absent from the Tory manifesto, such a deeply divisive test of public and

political opinion, shades of personal opinion eclipsing political

common sense. Let's get the sport

with Olly Foster. After the first day of the

Paralympics in Rio, Great Britain are second in the medal table behind

China, with 12 medals. Dame Sarah Storey have overtaken Baroness

Genette Tate -- Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson as Britain's most

successful female Paralympic. Serena Williams is out of the US

Open, having lost to Karolina Pliskova. Jamie Murray is to do the

doubles final, he and his partner Bruno Suarez beat Pierre-Hugues

Herbert and Nicolas Mahut, and they are on course for their second grand

slam title this year. It is make or break for Chris Froome, the Tour de

France winner needs to make up 3.5 minutes with only three stages left

to race in Spain. Today's time trial is his best chance of catching up.

I will have another update after 10am.

Tonight sees the World Premiere of Snowden -

the latest political thriller from the director Oliver Stone.

The film follows the life of Edward Snowden, the man

responsible for the biggest leak of top secret intelligence

Before we get onto these stories, I need to know more about you.

I work as a private contractor for the NSA, the CIA.

I've worked in various jobs in intelligence industry

Listen, they're going to come for me.

And now that we've made contact, they're going to come

How about we just start with your name, OK?

In real life, Sarah Harrison from Wikileaks played

an important part in the story - helping Edward Snowden escape

to Russia, and then spending six weeks alongside him in Moscow

She's been living in Germany for the last two years,

but has now returned to the UK after her lawyers said

she is no longer at risk of being detained under terror laws.

In a few minutes we'll speak to her in what is her first

June 2013, and this man was on the front pages

Edward Snowden, who leaked secret about our government

surveillance programmes, is officially a fugitive.

Edward Snowden had been working for the CIA

and America's National Security Agency.

He had flown to Hong Kong, taking thousands of top-secret

documents with him, files which he said showed the true

extent of US electronic surveillance programmes.

When you are subverting the power of government,

that is a fundamentally dangerous thing to democracy.

Sarah Harrison had been working for the whistle-blowing site WikiLeaks.

She was told to take the next plane to Hong Kong and help

The US authorities had charged him with spying and wanted him back.

Harrison was by his side when he flew to Moscow,

hoping to catch a connecting flight to South America.

For the next six weeks, they were stuck together

in the transit zone of Moscow airport, unable to leave

after the US cancelled Edward Snowden's passport.

But while the American became a well-known face all over

the world, Harrison continued to work in the background.

Snowden was eventually given temporary asylum in Russia.

Harrison stayed with him for the next three months, as he met

In late 2013, she moved to Berlin, saying her lawyers had told her not

to come back to the UK in case she was detained under terror laws.

She continues her work with WikiLeaks.

The site's controversial founder, Julian Assange, has been living

in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for four years.

Swedish police still want to question him over allegations

of sex abuse and rape, which he denies.

His supporters fear he could be sent on to the US and put on trial

Sarah Harrison is said to be his closest adviser, someone

WikiLeaks is still showing itself to be influential.

Over the summer it published internal e-mails which led

to the resignation of a senior US politician.

It's like Watergate, only now in cyber time.

The site is now promising more significant leaks linked

to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign,

all to be released in the run-up to the US election.

Sarah Harrison is here with me now for her first British TV interview.

Thank you for coming in. Tell me first of all how it came about that

you helped Edward Snowden? When he went public as being the source of

these revelations, the stories had started some days before coming out

and really shook the world, and he came forward as the source with a

video, and then the manhunt began. The intelligence services at least

in the United States were very much after him, the Government was

reacting very strongly to the revelations and coming out and

attacking him, and those working with him. And he reached out to

WikiLeaks, understanding that we knew quite a lot, because of

Julian's case, about a file and extradition, and when politics comes

into these cases you will see in a number of situations with

whistle-blowers these days the politics and Law intersect and it is

not just about the law, politics comes into it, for example with

Edward the President's plane was downed due to it, so we had good

expertise as well as a knowledge of technical and operational security.

He asked us for any assistance we could give, we were able to help, I

know Hong Kong well so I was chosen to go out there and work on the

ground. You were in Moscow airport for five weeks? Yes, I began in Hong

Kong is sorting out the legal and political scenario, ensuring that he

would be able to leave at the time that we did in a completely legal

and safe manner. The United States had actually, although they had

issued an extradition request, they messed up the middle name, his

middle name, so the Hong Kong authorities were being very diligent

and wanted to make sure they had the right person so were unable to do

anything with the initial paperwork that was sent. Luckily we timed our

exit from Hong Kong quite well and left before the United States were

able to put in the right paperwork. He was stranded in Moscow because

the passport was withdrawn? Exactly, so we were on the flight and Hong

Kong were understandably keen to explain this was not their problem

now and it was leaked that he had left Hong Kong jurisdiction and was

on a flight out on the way to Russia and that I was with him. Once we hit

the ground in Russia and try to check in for our onward flight, we

were aiming to get to Latin America which is where he wanted to claim

aside, in an incredible own goal the United States cancelled his

passport, leaving him stranded there, so we ended up with 40 days

and 40 nights in Moscow airport. You say in a Moscow airport but the

world's media descended and no-one could find you! Where were you?

Luckily we are quite good at hiding! The world's press were around and

intelligence services after him as well but we managed to find a safe

space within the and of course because of all these people looking

for us we could not leave much so we spent 40 days in that room. Did you

move around, go out and get food? People have to eat, there is airport

food, a lot of Burger Kings! I haven't eaten one since, I don't

know if I ever will! You were stuck in Russia at this point and of

course Edward Snowden is an enemy of the US and therefore a natural

friend of Russia at this point. What would the conversations that you had

about granting asylum for Edward Snowden there? Well, he had wanted

to get to Latin America so we began by putting in an asylum request to

several other countries, mainly Latin America but also Europe, to

see if there would be a safe place somewhere that he could go that was

not Russia. We put in over 20, this is what we spent quite a number of

weeks right at the beginning doing. And, sadly, most countries in Europe

either rejected or just didn't even answer at all, didn't respond. There

were a number of favourable answers from places in Latin America but

getting there from Russia by this stage, where we would need safe

passage, particularly after a President's plane was downed, where

many countries in Europe closed their airspace and helped down this

President's plane, it was clearly unsafe and he would not be able to

get safe passage. Did the Russian authorities want anything in

exchange for asylum? This is wonderful for the Russian

authorities, they have somebody exposing state secrets for the US

walking into their country, effectively unable to leave, so did

the FSB get in touch, did the Russian authorities say, you can

stay but we want access to the information? There was never

anything asked for in exchange, he was approached by intelligence

services, it would be unimaginable to think they didn't, it was their

job, any country's intelligence services would have done that and it

was one of the reasons I stayed with him, to ensure his safety in various

ways, and something we predicted, that this attack would come, that he

had given information to other Government including the Russians,

so we wanted a witness to be able to say, which I can testify to, that he

did not give anything to any intelligence services. There was

never any talk about it being an exchange for anything at all, and

then later on when we put in the asylum requests, all the proper

processes were gone through, he filled out asylum forms, etc, and

got his temporary asylum into Russia for a year after some deliberation

time. He has about a year left on his residence permit? Yes, first he

got temporary asylum for a year, then applied for a short-term

residency permit, so for three years, so he has a year left on

that. Will the Russians then ask for access to information in order for

him to stay? Presumably that is a concern? Whether they were asked, I

did then. He has been quite clear and I think now after so many years

it has been borne out that he gave all the information to journalists

in Hong Kong at the beginning, he did not leave Hong Kong with any

information, so whatever people wanted he would not be able to give

it, I think that has been clear for several years. I would be

surprised if they go through any trouble to that again. Did you, at

any point, ever question your own choices, your decisions about going

with Edward Snowden? Because he did not know all of the contents of

those 20,000 e-mails that he had, and I assume you did not read 20,000

documents, so you did not know what he was leaking? The revelations had

started to come out, I had not read all of them myself but Ed and some

journalists who had been working with Ewen MacAskill from here in the

UK, they are doing a process of reading the documents before they

publish. Edward Snowden worked very closely with these types of

documents and had clearly been through them quite carefully, so I

think that any of these sort of attacks to say he did not understand

the document or he was unaware, they are trying to feed into a spin by

the US government... But you did not know what was in those documents?

Was there a moment when you said to yourself, could there be information

that risks people's lives, that risks the security of people here in

Britain? From the previous work I had done over several years with

WikiLeaks we very much understood that true factual information about

what the Government is doing in illegal processes does not ever harm

any member of the public and is actually only helpful for members of

the public and starts to bring governments to account. So that was

from seeing the quality of the material that had started to come

out, the type of information and type of illegal behaviour that he

was revealing, Let's talk about Julian Assange. You

obviously works closely with him at Wikileaks. He is now at the

Ecuadorian Embassy here in London, and has been for four years. What is

the state of his health, and also his mental health, having been there

for so long? It has been great for me to see him after so many years.

Obviously we were staying in contact over the period I was living in

Berlin quite close, because working together on a daily basis. I think

it is the work that keeps him going. He believes in it very strongly. We

are seeing great effects from the work that we are doing, and that

really does keep him strong. But of course, staying in that sort of

environment, I mean, he is in one room in a very small Embassy in

central London. He hasn't had some for four years. Also something I

noticed when I was in the airport for just 40 days, which may seem a

long period of time, but compared to four years is minuscule. Once I

stepped outside I realised that my eyes hurt quite a lot for several

days. I realised it was because I hadn't seen anything other than the

wall quite close to me for that period of time. My eyes had adjusted

to not actually using those muscles. They hadn't had any practice for

seeing any further. Just 40 days hurt my eyes. The harm after four

years to his physical person of being in this state that actually,

prisoners, we give them better... He is not a prisoner. At any moment he

can walk out of those doors and be extradited to Sweden to face those

charges of sexual abuse and rape. Why doesn't he do that? He has

actually been... His treatment has actually been officially declared by

the UN as detention, as arbitrary detention, no less. That is

something the British Government does not recognise that UN ruling.

The British Government are not complying with the UN ruling, that

is correct. But that doesn't mean that the United Nations are wrong.

The way that the concept of detention in this way works in law

is that if somebody would have to give up human rights to leave the

place in which they are in, then that does count as in force

detention. But why doesn't he go? Many people watching this will say,

if he is as innocent as he says he is, why not go and face the legal

process if you can get on with his life? It would be great if you were

able to clear his name and finally get the side of the story. He has

been asked to be questioned by the Swedes for many years. He has not

gone to Sweden due to lack of assurances that he would not be

extradited to the United States. It is important to remember that there

is a large secret grand jury going on in the US, although it is secret,

many documents are coming out continuously, many this year, and

the trial of Chelsea Manning was a large, large mechanism in which

these documents came out that show and prove threats against him. There

are politicians asking for him to be legally droned. His asylum is

actually against the threats from the United States. He has asked for

assurances he would not be extradited on. Those as you're into

is not being given. Until that point where he can feel safe -- those

disturbances. That he is not at risk of being sent to the United States,

where he would almost certainly get tortured, then he must keep his

asylum. And anybody trying to put pressure to take away his right to

asylum is colluding in this arbitrary detention. I'm sure

President Obama would say that he would not be tortured if he worked

extradited to the US but would face of that trial. When you left Russia

with Edward Snowden, he went had lived in Berlin for fear of

returning to the UK. Clearly you are here now. What changed? Well, in

great news earlier this year, David Miranda, who had been doing

journalistic work to deal with the Snowdon documents which he was

transiting on behalf of the Guardian through the UK with a number of

Snowdon documents, was stopped under the terrorism act. There is an

interesting part of the terrorism act in the United Kingdom, which is

called Cheddar or seven. That is that at Borders, ports of entry --

schedule seven. Airports for example, people can be stopped under

this schedule seven, and that that you have things that we would all

considered normal rights. There is no right to silence when you are

stopped under schedule seven, you are forced to answer every question.

When David Moran was stopped he was forced to give up passwords etc all

to do with his journalistic work -- David Randall. And my lawyers'

assessment at the time was that there was a very high risk, because

of my work with Edward Snowden and Wikileaks, that this law would be

used with me, I would be asked questions that I would definitely

not want once. The problem then is that you can be charged as a

terrorist, which has obviously large implications after that. But that

didn't happen? Well, David Randall took the case, saying journalists

should not be treated as terrorists in this country, this violated other

rights -- David Randall. This piloted press freedoms. Although

this initially lost up High Court of Appeal, which you won earlier this

year -- that violated press freedoms. Journalists ring fenced

against this being used against them. I am a member of the National

Union of Journalists, therefore the risk was deemed lower, and I was

able to come in the summer. For you, your life has changed so much over

the last few years. Do you ever look back and think, I wish I'd changed

my decisions at any time? What is your life like now? Have you got the

same friends? Are you still in contact with people? I'm in contact

with many of my friends, they have had to learn how to encrypt their

communications. Things have got busier as I've learned more. After

helping Edward Snowden we realised there were very few people actually

able to help in the sort of scenario. We therefore set up a

whole other organisation to protect whistle-blowers, Courage, which I am

director of as well. The work has just got more. The cases I am

involved and have got more. We now have seven beneficiaries of this.

One, Larry Love, was on the show earlier, he has an extradition case

going on at the moment. Things have gotten busier and in some ways

riskier, but also more interesting, and I just see things to fight for

the daily basis. It keeps me going when I get up in the morning. You

have only just recently got a mobile phone? Yes, there were many years

without it. Many people cannot understand that, and I still don't

have Facebook or Twitter, which is shock, horror to many. Some people

may find that liberating. Thank you, Sarah Harrison.

The biggest-ever study into statins, the medicines that are meant

to prevent heart attacks and strokes, says the benefits

Over the years the message has been mixed, and led people

to feel confused as to whether to take them or not.

About six million people are currently taking

Of those, two million are on them because they have

already had a heart attack, stroke or other

The remaining four million take statins because of risk

factors such as age, blood pressure or diabetes.

And according to the authors of today's report, up to two million

We can speak to the author of the report - Rory Collins.

And Dr Malcolm Kendrick, who is a GP and author

of The Great Cholesterol Con, and Martin Gillingham,

a former athlete and now sports broadcaster, who feels that

if he had been on statins he would not have

Thank you for coming in to speak to us. Rory, first of all. Just explain

exactly what has been discovered in this report? What we have done is

bring together all of the reliable evidence about the effects of

satins. And we tried to explain the doctors and patients were interested

in what evidence you can rely on, and what evidence you can't rely on.

And to give them an idea of how big the benefits are of using an

effective statin regime, it can reduce your cholesterol by about

half. And that will reduce your risk of having a heart attack or stroke

by about half. Every year you continue to take it. In terms of the

absolute benefits, if you take somebody who you mentioned who has

already had a heart attack or stroke, 10,000 of them would take

statin for five years, about 1000 of them would avoid having another

heart attack or stroke or needing a procedure the arteries of their

heart. If they take them longer than that. They will take further

benefit, and more people will benefit. It is a small benefit for

the people who haven't already have a heart attack, but those benefits

are much bigger than the side-effects caused by the drug.

Let's bring Martin in at this point. Give us your experiences, if you

would, if being an satins first of all, and the difference when you

came off them? I first went on statins when I was living in South

Africa in the 90s. And I had relatively high cholesterol, not

stupid high, but high. I was on them for six or seven years. I then came

back to the United Kingdom. Over a period of two or three years I was

consulting my GP, by GP took me off them. And I think for good reason,

or at least good reason at the time. I think at that time I had no other

risk factors, no family history, decent lifestyle, I was a formerly

begat wit and didn't take drugs and I didn't smoke. -- Olympic athlete.

There was no risk factors other than raised cholesterol. So he took me

off them. Two years ago, the lights went out in my world, and I had what

they call in the trade the widow make a heart attack, one major

blockage caused by the build-up of cholesterol high up in the

descending artery, and it nearly killed me. A slight

misrepresentation to say that I believe I wouldn't have had a heart

attack had I been on statins. But certainly now, what we know this

morning, it can only reduce the risk. It was the only risk factor I

had, and I know from past experience, and now of course

because I am on a cocktail of drugs including 80 mg per day of statin,

the moment I am on statins, my cholesterol drops dramatically. So

you have seen those benefits. We can speak to Maria Whitfield. Maria, you

have been an satins. It explained your experiences. We have heard

Martin's experiences there. INAUDIABLE

For me, I had a lot of side-effects. I experienced headaches, nausea, it

was just a horrible experience. And I started taking them when I was 19.

And then I approached my GP and by neurosurgeon -- my neurosurgeons and

told them that I wanted to come off them because I felt the side-effects

were just making my life a misery, really. Did they stop as soon as you

stop taking the statins? Yes, it did. I suffered from blackouts and

within a month to six weeks after taking them, the blackout is just

completely went. Let's bring in Doctor Kendrick. Are these the sort

of stories that you hear from Maria yourself? Absolutely. I think they

vary. For example, I've had one patient who, just before Christmas

last year, had severe abdominal pains and she was admitted to

hospital and they were going to do and exploratory surgery, cutting

open your stomach and having a look inside to see what causes it. This

was just before Christmas. She didn't want to have the operation.

They gave her stronger painkillers and said to her, let's try stopping

the statins because I have seen some people have significant abdominal

pains on statins. Within a few weeks, the pains had disappeared.

That is just one example. I have seen many patients who have had the

same type of problems will stop in fact, my own father-in-law, he had a

major heart attack in hospital an satins. He found himself unable to

walk. He is a perfect patient, terrified of not taking his

medication, he does exactly what his GP tells him, he never listens to

me. And basically he eventually came off the statins and was able to walk

fully without joint and muscle pains. So I mean, I've seen so many

examples personally. And according to the data, from what Professor

Collins has come up with, which suggests that if I had a practice, I

don't work in general practice, I'm not a partner but I don't work in

general practice. I should see a one-on-one patient with a

significant statin adverse effects. I have seen tens, 20s, I don't keep

a record of it but I have seen many, many patients, some of whom have had

severe, debilitating adverse effects from taking statins. Thank you very

much for speaking to us. Thank you to all of you. Sorry we don't have

any more time on that. I know lots of you have been getting in touch

with your experiences of statins, which we will tell you about later

on. Team GB's gold rush in Rio

is expected to continue tonight, as Jonnie Peacock bids for another

Paralympic Gold in the T44 category for single-leg

below the knee amputees. A lot of focus has been

placed on running blades, and we'll be looking at how

important technology really Let's get the latest weather

update with Nick Miller. Low pressure is coming our way which

will turn things more wet and windy over the coming days. Things will be

wet and windy for Northern Ireland and parts of Scotland today, another

coming in later in the week as well. Let's get the detail of the

forecast, we will start by seeing how things develop over the next

three hours for the rest of today. The first weather system bringing

rain into Northern Ireland across western parts of Scotland, and that

is bringing severe gales in places to the Western Isles, 60 mph,

elsewhere in Northern Ireland, western Scotland, Cumbria, North

Wales, 40 to 50 mph here, but a large part of England and Wales will

avoid the rain until later, with warm, sunny spells, but it is breezy

and blustery with some showers around. The rain sweeps Southeast

overnight, behind the weather system the wind will ease a bit, it is

clearer and cooler but the rain is still there in parts of England and

Wales on Saturday. It will clear Wales but it is an issue for England

even into the afternoon for South East England and East Anglia after a

dry start. Scotland and Northern Ireland have a dry start. Mainly a

fine day to come for you. Temperatures will be down a few

degrees. On Sunday, the next weather system coming in, we will keep you

updated on that. I'm Chloe Tilley, in for

Victoria Derbyshire - welcome to the programme if you've

just joined us. Prime Minister Theresa May will make

a major speech shortly in which she is expected to say that

ruling out grammar schools She insists there will be no return

to the past 11 plus a of winners and losers.

Day one of the Paralympics yesterday saw the gold rush

in Rio kick off again, with Dame Sarah Storey becoming

Britain's greatest female Paralympian of all time,

Tonight, Para GB poster-boy Jonnie Peacock aims for Gold

when he runs in his 100 metres final.

A photo used by police in Northern Ireland to front

a a campaign about safety at a festival has gone viral, much

Photos of Detective Superintendant Bobby Singleton attracted

thousands of comments, likes and shares on social media

but a men's group has complained that it's sexist.

Here's Annita McVeigh in the BBC Newsroom

Theresa May is set to announce details of what's being called

the biggest change to England's education system in a decade.

Every secondary school could be given the opportunity

to become a grammar school, but schools may have to meet

targets on how many pupils they take from poorer families.

Labour says the Government is failing to tackle

And we'll bring you that announcement from Theresa May live

later in the programme - we're expecting that

North Korea has carried out what's thought to be its most powerful test

yet of a nuclear warhead, in defiance of

Huge earth tremors were detected overnight

The test has received international condemnation.

It is fair to say China, Russia, the United States, everybody shares

concerns, we are trying still to monitor and find out precisely what

took place and at the appropriate moment today I'm confident President

Obama will address this and we will certainly be discussing this in the

context of the United Nations, I'm sure. I'm also going to speak to the

ministers this morning dummy-half break in negotiations. I'm very much

concerned and the resolutions of the security Council must be implemented

to send the message very strongly. It's been a highly successful

opening day for the Para GB team The British team won 11

medals in total, putting them in second place

in the table, behind China. There were five gold medals

for Britain, including one for cyclist Dame Sarah Storey -

who becomes Britain's most successful female

Paralympian of all time, after winning the 12th

gold of her career. Megan Giglia also scooped cycling

gold, and there was gold in the pool for swimmers

Ollie Hyne and Bethany Firth. An operation to rescue

dozens of tourists trapped overnight in cable cars

in the French Alps has resumed. 45 people were left stranded

above the glaciers of Mont Blanc at an altitude of more than 12,000

feet after the wires of their cable cars got

tangled in strong winds. Last night some people

were rescued by helicopter, but the operation had to be

suspended when night fell and clouds A major review of statins says

the anti-cholesterol drug is safe and effective,

and that any harmful side effects The study, published in The Lancet,

says that reports of statins causing muscle pain were based

on unreliable evidence. The review has been backed

by several major organisations but some critics, including

the British Medical Journal, claim it is not independent and has

overlooked crucial data. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

and his challenger Owen Smith have Both men faced heckles

from a BBC One Question Time There were testy exchanges

on subjects including Brexit, Labour's electoral hopes

and Mr Corbyn's attempt to deal with Nasa has launched its first space

probe aimed at gathering The spacecraft Osiris-Rex has

started a seven-year round trip to get rubble

from an ancient space rock. It's hoped the particles could hold

clues to the origin of life not just on Earth but elsewhere in the solar

system. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.30am. In the next few minutes we will look

at some of the blades that Para GB are using, they are quite

incredible. We will have a look at those. The cameramen did not expect

me to say that said they are running around, I apologise to everyone on

the floor! If you want to get in touch with us

today, you can use our hashtag. Lots of people have been talking about

staters, Roger says, I know they cause severe muscle pain. Dale said,

my partner has been on these years and has developed many of the

side-effects, his memory is poor and he struggles to find the right words

and names and has joint pain. An anonymous text says, I am 55, I have

been on Staton 's for over 20 years. I don't get muscle pain but I have

muscle weakness and it affects my life, but is it better a heart

attack? Absolutely. My main concern is the

effect on the liver when I am on them for a long time. If you are on

perspectives, tell us your experience.

Here's the sport now with Olly Foster.

Great Britian are second in the medal table behind China

after the first day of competition at the Paralympics

Seven medals came in the pool, four in the velodrome including three

golds one for Dame Sarah Storey in her seventh Paralympic Games.

With 12 golds in all she has overtaken Baroness Tanni-Grey

Thomspon as GB's most successfull female para-athlete.

Megan Giglia also won gold in the 3000 metre pursuit.

She competes in a different category to Storey, for para-athletes

She suffered a stroke three years ago.

And there was also a gold for visually imapired cyclist

Steve Bate with his tandem pilot Adam Duggleby.

In the last half an hour double Olympic champion Joanna

She knows Dame Sarah very well and I asked he about her

When you go to a games and everybody says, you will win, no doubt about

it, it is difficult because you still have to execute the

performance to win the race and everyone has almost put the medal

around her neck beforehand, saying she will break a record beforehand,

but she has to keep focused on delivering the best performance she

can do, which she did, she broke her world record in qualifying, which

was set at altitude two years ago. I said to her, I cannot believe you

were quicker, because times at altitude are normally quicker than

the level times, so at 38 to go quicker than at altitude time was

very impressive, I'm proud of her. Somebody you have known for a long

time, trained alongside her at the Manchester Velodrome, the home of

British Cycling, tell us about her as an athlete? We both started

cycling in 2005, so though she was a swimmer for many years before that,

we said we are the same age in cycling years because we came into

the sport at the same time and have progressed at the

same rate, but she is so hard-working and determined, she has

a lot of knowledge, she knows what she wants and how to get it, but she

juggles having a family, running a cycling team, and doing her media

and sponsorship commitments. I don't know how she does it. People talk to

me about the sacrifices you have to make as an athlete, but she does not

seem to sacrifice much, she seems to be able to fit everything into her

day, she goes on bike rides with her daughter, the normal family stuff,

and Louisa and Barney travel around with her two races, so she seems to

enjoy family life as well as a lot of hard training on the bike. It was

also a great night for Para GB in the aquatic centre.

There were two more golds in the pool, both secured

First Ollie Hynd stormed to victory in the 400m freestyle.

And then the Northern Irish swimmer Bethany Firth broke the world mark

in the S14 100 metre backstroke - a record she'd set herself,

Serena Williams is out of the US open, she was hoping to break the

record she shares with Steffi Graf but that will not happen. She has

also been knocked of the world number one perch. She lost to the

tenth seed Karolina Pliskova who full face Angelique Kerber in the

final tomorrow. Curb will move to number one in the world, no matter

how she does in the final. Williams complained of a bad knee after the

match but tried not to make too many excuses.

OK, I'm not going to repeat myself, I was not tired from yesterday's

match, I'm a professional player, playing for over 20 years. If I

cannot play again after 24 hours I should not be on

tour, so I definitely was not tired from yesterday's much at all, it was

not a five-hour match, I have practised three hours so it was not

that huge of a deal. Andy Murray went out in the

quarterfinals but his brother Jamie is into the final with his partner

Bruno Suarez. They beat the world number one pair of Pierre-Hugues

Herbert and Nicolas Mahut from France. Murray and Suarez are

looking for their second grand slam title of the year, and they play an

unseeded pair so every chance of another grand slam title for the

Marie household. Para GB poster-boy Jonnie Peacock

bids for another Paralympic gold tonight when he runs in his 100m

final in Rio de Janeiro. His T44 category is for single leg

below-the-knee amputees. And with Jonnie, like many

athletes before him, a lot of focus has been placed

on his running blade. From wheelchair design to bike

fixings, technology is often seen as one way for Paralympians to make

those marginal gains which can be the difference

between gold and not So does the technology really make

a difference and, if so, does that mean there isn't a level

playing field between Para GB and athletes from poorer countries

who struggle to get simple Let's talk now to Richard Hirons -

he's a clinical specialist that's worked with Jonnie Peacock and other

Paralympians, and he's brought some running blades

in for us to have a look at. Malcolm Wallace runs a charity

called Inova Disability Sport which gives equipment

to Paralympians in poorer countries, but also coached

Haitiian Paralympic team. He argues that technology is vital

to Paralympic success. And Scott Moorhouse is an amputee

Paralympian javelin thrower Richard, I need to start by speaking

about this wonderful array of blades we have got in front of us. There is

a range of blades here, they are essentially bent pieces of carbon

fibre, they are springs but there are subtle differences between a few

of them. That is because when people run there are different hobbies they

have, Trail running, sprinting, elite sport like we are talking

about today, and this specifically is an example of an old leg of

Jonnie Peacock's. If it had the? Reasonably happy. Not too bad. It

has spikes, I spiked myself! That is part of it! And this is a winning

but from Richard Whitehead from London. Signed as well! He was doing

the 200 metres? That one is for 100 metres? Or is it to do with the

athlete? It is to do with the athlete, the reason Jonnie where is

this, it is an off-the-shelf model so it is available for anybody but

it is something he has chosen, it is a preference for him. With Richard,

he has also quite a long distance between the end of his socket and

the ground, and it would be too heavy with a blade like this, he

found this herbicide that is more suitable for him. How much would be

is cost? The blades are around ?1300, but it is small in the grand

scheme of things. They are not necessarily in that I don't believe

they aid performance, they enable people to run, and you look at the

start line, you saw the qualifiers last night for the 100, and they all

have them. The performance and marginal gains you talk about really

come from the athlete. You said they all have them, I want to bring in

Malcolm because not all athletes get blades, do they? Know, if you look

in Europe, the Western world, yes, you see them all the time, but when

you look at the third World, in Haiti we had a javelin thrower came

over, his foot is his knee, and he was having to have a leg made for

him out in London to enable him to do the run up. He could not have a

blade because out in Haiti, we had been there about a week, they had

not got the flat ground, they do not have any tracks out at the moment,

and that is where the disabled who are living, they are living out on

the tracks, so he runs on a car park full of rocks, etc. In Africa, where

I do work, we have the same situation. So certain areas can use

them and certain areas can't, and again it is

I think equipment is one component of many facets that make people who

are the Paralympians that we are talking about, without doubt, the

people that we are seeing today, they are athletes. There is no

question about that, that is what defines them. They are athletes who

wear or need adaptive equipment, and equipment is certainly one part of

that. And I think they need the equipment to be able to compete. But

having the equipment does not compete -- guarantee they will

compete. As a competitor using a blade, when you first dotted using

it, I heard it is difficult to stop running when you first start is that

true? If you are yes. You know, I think that the kind of danger is

that you also injure yourself when you try and stop too quickly. But

coming from a kind of prosthetic point of view, you know, when I

first got it, it was quite new experience, and quite hard to get

used to. Not something that you put on and suddenly the instant results.

It took a while, probably a good six to 12 months, to really to grips

with, you know, the feel of the prosthetic. I had used an NHS lead

previously. Actually we are quite fortunate in this country that we do

have access to the NHS. -- and NHS leg. I got to a senior level with

quite a basic kind of prosthetic. As Richard mentioned, there are many

components to being an athlete. And the prosthetic is just one

component, there are many others, there is the training, nutrition,

and everything else that goes around that. But Scott, sorry to interrupt,

could it be the difference between meddling and not meddling, having a

blade, do you think? It is centimetres if it is the javelin, it

is hundreds of second ever do is running the 100m sometimes? -- if it

is running the 100m. I don't think it is the defining point. Take

somebody like the athlete who cleared the 200m in London, went to

Lyon in 2013, 100m, that the world record at 10.5 seven. He has just

come out in rear racing against Jonnie and the other guys in the T44

100m. OK, he had a couple of years off when he had a baby and a few

things going on at home. But he didn't even qualify on his heat.

And, you know, that just goes to show that from being such an amazing

athlete that he was before and the kind of times he was able to run, he

was the best out of the training, he obviously hasn't put the work in. I

think that is the real defining point. It is how you manage yourself

as an athlete and how you go about preparing for the final events. It

is just a tiny support part in that, the prosthetics. You raised the name

of Alan Oliveira. There was a bit of a spat in London 2012 between him

and Oscar Pistorius. This story is was not allowed to change the length

of his blades, but Olivero was coming he felt it was an advantage.

It is almost a situation, Oscar Pistorius was allowed by the IAAF to

compete in able bodied games. Because of that ruling, the

specification of his prosthetics, including the height, was locked

down. Now, for double, bilateral amputee is, when they go to the

court room, there is a line below which they must fall which defines

the maximum height that they can be. That is a Paralympic sport. Because

Oscar had chosen not to change his legs, because he was competing in

able-bodied sport, what he was saying was that when he turned up

the race, he didn't know whether he was racing Paul Allen or short

Allen, because for 100m you could have the legs short or accelerate

quicker, but for 400 metres maybe he could get away with slightly longer

prosthetics -- all Alan Orr shot Alan. What Oscar was saying was,

that wasn't fair. It is an anomaly in the rulings that we have now. I

think it is something continually being looked at. We have got one of

Jonnie Peacock's old blades. You mentioned Richard Whitehead. Ireland

are being fascinated watching Richard Whitehead at London 2012. --

I remember being fascinated. The commentator said that the beginning,

if you think he is going to lose this, don't worry, you won't.

Explain how his race works? It is three different, the way he loses

his -- he uses his blade. He competes in mixed classification.

First of all, his start is very crucial for Richard. Sometimes he

has experimented using the blocks, sometimes he has to have a 3-point

start. Basically he is standing and blend is about bending over. The

rise from that position takes time. We're talking milliseconds. He

doesn't want to get a disqualification. It takes a long

time frame to wind up. He doesn't use knees, he has huge long levers

which take time to go. When he is on, that is what it comes to. He

literally comes from right at the back of the field to storm through.

If he wasn't using a blade, presumably that would, he would just

have a more constant race? I'm trying to work it out. If he didn't

use the blade he wouldn't be there. The blade is just part of the

sporting moment. It is a fixed variable of many variables. The

blades are just like running shoes. I count them as running shoes, they

are just big shoes. If you actually look at who is sprinting, you very

rarely see the Africans, because they haven't got access to blades.

So that means, if you look at the long jump at the moment, the Germans

during the long jump, he has actually got a blade. He is jumping

further than Greg Rutherford. Whereas in Africa they can't do that

because they haven't got the access to the equipment. What about longer

distances? Or blades primarily for sprinting, or are they useful for

marathon as well? Does Richard Whitehead use them? A blade is

essentially a running shoe, and that is the best analogy you can make.

You have different running shoes were different events. You watch

people like Usain Bolt and Mo Farah, the first thing they do when they

finish is to take their shoes off, because they are tight, stiff and

uncomfortable. Because the sponsors like them to! It would be the same

things, but without a blade, then it would be like, in a regular day

walking foot, which this is, for example, it looks a little bit

complex, but this would be like asking is able to run in walking

boots. It is just not appropriate equipment -- asking Usain Bolt to

run in walking boots. Here in the UK, would somebody have, the one you

just picked up, would somebody have that for everyday life? Yes, feet

like this one here, that has a foot cover on it, this one doesn't have a

cosmetic foot cover. These are examples of regular walking feet.

And the concept of the carbon fibre blade, the term would keep using,

came back from a guy in the 1980s, he was given a wooden foot with a

squishy question here with a bendy Robert Owen. He just thought, there

has to be something better. He came up with the first flexible foot,

pretty similar to that. All of these versions of that carbon fibre have

trickled down to everyday. The majority of amputations now, they

are people in their 70s and 80s, sick people anyway. They are the

people who need real help with their mobility and to generate some

independence, whether it is from their bed to the bathroom or

bathroom to the kitchen. That is why their technology is really useful.

Scott, what do you think would be the difference if everybody Malcolm

has been talking about a lack of access to blades for people in

certain parts of the world because it is simply not practical to train

with them, do you think it would make a difference if everybody could

have access to this kind of agreement? I think, you know, I

think that it would be great perhaps of other parts the world would have

more access. I suppose that will come through with time. But I think

the point that we need to make here is that if we give somebody who has

never used a blade before a blade, they are not going to suddenly see,

you know, certainly a better athlete, they are not suddenly going

to start running amazing times. You know, the real focus needs to be on

the other areas as well, the training and the kind of effort that

goes into getting onto the international stage. And, you know,

like Richard was saying, it's not like Bishoo, it is just one element

of it, it is the equipment -- it is like issue. The athletes have got to

where they are because of the hours and sacrifices they put in. You

know, over many years. You know, let's might not be under any

illusion that it will also all issues in performance. -- it will

solve issues. You are competing now. I have had conversations ahead of

Rio saying so many people were engaged by London 2012, but the

level of competitive has improved, and the training has been forced

upon people to improve, because more people are coming into wall of the

spores. Yes, I mean -- more people are coming into wall of the spoils.

Paralympic sport has been around for quite a long time now. In recent

years there has been a lot more close training proximity with

Olympic athletes. And also, you know, the kind of setup that Babs

Olympians have been experiencing for quite a while, in that high

performance arena -- perhaps Olympians. Certainly in this

country, they are having much better access to the kind of coaching,

nutrition less, and all that sort of support network that goes on behind

the scenes. -- nutritionists. The sport in the last decade or so has

really notched up in terms of professionalism and in terms of the

standards, and there are, you know, I think now you can have a career as

a Paralympic athlete. Whereas perhaps a few years ago you

couldn't. And you still had to work quite a time, and you still had to

keep that they job. And now you can actually be a full-time athlete.

That is why we are seeing standards increase. People are inspired to

become athletes. You know, that won't be for everybody. Some people

are inspired, and that's great, but they won't necessarily have the

talent to get there. The great thing is that what London has done is it

is a platform for making people realise that they can get involved

in sport at whatever level that is, and actually there is opportunity

for them. And I think that is really where the kind of legacy of London

2012 is kind of coming from, and hopefully it will continue in the

coming years. Scott talks about talent. Clearly, Malcolm, the people

that you work with in some of these disadvantaged countries have the

talent but they do not get the women. What are the sort of things

that you are able to give them? Through another foundation, the

strike foundation, we are sending out wheelchairs the people in the

African countries. But also things like javelin, shot put, you know,

the other day I had about ?1000 worth of javelins in my car. I had a

double amputee, Dave, from Afghanistan, and they use Dublin is,

about ?1000 worth. I have also gotten shot but discussed -- they

use Dublin. They tend to get broken once, that is what happens. As Scott

said, it is about the coaching. We learn how to coach disabled people

when the new blades come out, the new equipment, the new rules. They

don't have that opportunity there because they don't actually get

access to it. That is one of the things that we are also doing,

looking at how we can give our expertise out to Nigeria, and other

countries that we work with. To actually work with them. We can do

it online with Skype as well. Thank you ever so much for coming in.

Bridget, thank you for bringing the blades. It is great to have a feel,

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It's been a highly successful opening day for the Para GB team

The British team won 11 medals in total, putting

them in second place in the table, behind China.

There were five gold medals for Britain, including one

for cyclist Dame Sarah Storey - who becomes Britain's

most successful female Paralympian of all time,

after winning the 12th gold of her career.

Megan Giglia also scooped cycling gold, and there was gold

in the pool for swimmers Ollie Hyne and Bethany Firth.

An operation to rescue dozens of tourists trapped

overnight in cable cars in the French Alps has resumed.

45 people were left stranded above the glaciers of Mont Blanc

at an altitude of more than 12,000 feet after the wires of their cable

Last night some people were rescued by helicopter, but the operation had

to be suspended when night fell and clouds hampered visibility.

The man recovered from the rubble of Didcot Power Station has been

Thames Valley Police said the family of the 57-year-old

from Rotherham had been informed and were being given support.

Mr Cresswell is the third victim to be recovered since the boiler

house partially collapsed in February.

John Shaw, also from Rotherham, is the last workman

The Princess Royal has been forced to cancel public engagements

while she recovers from a bad chest infection, Buckingham

Princess Anne, seen here at the Braemar Gathering

in the Highlands earlier this month, has pulled out of all the events

she had planned for next week, on the advice of her doctors.

The palace says she is "resting privately at home".

That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

After the first day of competition at the Paralympics in Rio de

Janeiro, Great Britain are second in the medal table behind

Dame Sarah Storey won a 12th gold at her seventh games to overtake

Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson as the most successful

Serena William's 3.5-year reign as world number one is over.

She lost in the US Open semi-finals to tenth seed Karolina Pliskova.

The Czech will face Angelique Kerber in tomorrow's final.

Kerber will take Williams' number one ranking.

It will all be recalibrated on Monday morning.

Jamie Murray is through to the doubles final.

He and his partner Bruno Soares beat the world number one pair

of Pierre-Hugues Herbert and Nicolas Mahut, and are on course

for their second grand slam title this year.

And it's make-or-break for Chris Froome in the Vuelta

a Espana - the Tour de France winner needs to make up 3.5 minutes

on the leader with only three stages left.

Today's time-trial is his best chance of catching up.

This week, thousands of British Muslims are in the holy

city of Mecca for the annual Hajj pilgrimage.

Hajj is one of the five pillars of Islam -

the pillars are mandatory things all Muslims must do

during their lifetime, as long as they are physically

Despite safety fears because of the sheer

number of people there, it's estimated two million Muslims

Hajj is the annual Islamic pilgrimage to holy sites,

associated with the life of the Prophet Muhammad

It's one of the five mandatory duties which all Muslims

are expected to perform, known as the five pillars of Islam.

The five pillars are a belief in God and

During Hajj, which lasts around four days, worshippers carry

out rituals dating back thousands of years.

These include circling the Kaaba, the holiest shrine

As well as the symbolic stoning of the devil at Mina.

An estimated 2 million Muslims perform Hajj every year.

This includes around 25,000 British Muslims.

The event has been beset by safety problems, leading to many deaths.

109 people were killed when a crane collapsed.

Hundreds of people died after a stampede.

Despite the safety issues, pilgrims continue to make the spiritual

Salim and Ali are both from North London.

They're both performing Hajj for the first time this year,

and took some time out this morning to speak to me

I think, to start off with, it's very different from home.

I mean, the weather is, it's summer here right now,

so it's really, really hot and sort of sweaty.

At the same time, you know, we're here for a purpose.

And it's amazing to see so many people from all around the world.

Literally people from all walks of life.

I mean, when you sit and pray in the mosque, you ask

people where they're from, and it's mad to just think that

everybody has come together for this one purpose.

Whenever I've spoken to people in the past who've done the Hajj,

they've always talked about this huge amount of people,

it's really difficult to kind of comprehend until you're there.

Ali, can you put into words a sense of how many

You hear numbers in the media, 2 million, 3 million,

and actually it's when you're walking down the street

close to prayer time, when the call for prayer has been

issued, you just see this outpouring of people wearing religious garb,

And, you know, you never see as many people in any other experience.

It's beautiful, like iron filings being drawn to a magnet.

It's just something you don't see every day at all.

It is the first Hajj for both of you.

Why did you choose this year in particular?

Essentially I guess my prayers were answered, and here I am.

For me, both me and my mum had been wanting to go.

And we said to each other, this was the year to do it.

And with good friends like Salim coming along,

we thought, you know, why not, why not make it

But you will be only too familiar with the tragedy that

It's not unusual for there to be crushes and stampedes at the Hajj,

And it's still not clear how many people died.

Some people put the number at around 900.

Other estimates say around 2000 people died.