16/09/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello is it Friday it is 9.00am, I am Joanna Gosling, welcome to the

programme. A train is partially derailed near

Watford junction after a land slide. No-one injured but widespread

disruption. Mark Carney joins us live. With a special BBC News school

report. A good morning from the academy here

in Coventry. In a while, Mark Carney is available to take questions from

here in co-entry and across the UK. And a boil wood superstars bows out.

I sang so many songs. Welcome to the programme.

We are live until 11.00am. We are also talking about Chinese

medicine after the death of a Chinese actress who chose the

medicine over traditional medicines on offer in the country.

Our top story today...Flash flooding has hit parts of southern

and north-east England this morning after torrential rain.

The Environment Agency's issued an amber warning for

parts of the south-east of the country, and there

are reports of roads and properties being hit by flooding

across Surrey, Hampshire, Hertfordshire and Greater London.

One train's been derailed between Watford Junction

and King's Langley in Herttfordshire after a reported landslide -

and there are delays on South-West Trains

There is major disruption to the south-west train services, after a

lightening strike caused what the company says is substantial damage

to signalling equipment. Also delays on Virgin East Coast services.

We are joined by Steve with the latest developments. Tell us about

the train derailment? That is the biggest problem.

In the last hour or so we have details on exactly what happened

there. It was the 6.19am service from Milton Keynes into London,

Euston. When it reached north of Watford at 7.00am, what the Network

Rail tell us is that a small portion of the train derailed. There was a

land slide that caused the derailment. It hit another train

coming in the opposite direction. It is not a serious collision. The

other train has been able to carry on in the other direction. The most

important thing, no-one it seems has been injured.

But what it is causing and going to cause is disruption.

Of course, London, Euston, if is one of the busiest train stations in

London. The west coast mainline up and down there, north to Glasgow and

other northern cities, so it will be difficult. Virgin rail are telling

us that one service an hour is being cancelled. Two lines have been

reopened but the trains are moving slowly, there is congestion on the

line, delays and cancellations. A lot of rain has fallen in a short

period of time. Tell us about the affected areas so far? In the East

Coast of England, they have been affected especially. We have seen

the images of the difficulties it has caused. In London roads are

submerged. Roads closed so a difficult morning for the drivers.

Also images of Newbury. The town centre, in a matter of minutes, the

town centre had been transformed into a lake, the packages at the

train stations standing on benches to escape the water running through

there. So flash flooding is the main problem.

Also the fire crews are dealing with lightening strikes in various places

that caused fires and power outages. There are thousands of homes without

power at certain times in the morning. In parts of the country it

is set to continue. There are weather warnings in place for the

rest of the day. So the rush hour is coming to an end but there are

difficulties ahead. Thank you very much, Steve.

Now the rest of the news with Anita in the newsroom.

Two months after he was sacked by Theresa May,

the former chancellor, George Osborne, is launching

a new think-tank to champion his Northern Powerhouse initiative.

The independent body will campaign for greater devolution

and investment to boost growth in the North of England.

There have been concerns that the project has lost much

Uhunoma Osazuwa asked the Government to push forward with the plan.

Our political correspondent Ben Wright is in Westminster for us.

What are the proposals pushed forward, given he was sacked by

Theresa May? He was brutally sacked. I think that Theresa May may have

encouraged Uhunoma Osazuwa to embark on a quiet period of silent

reflections on the back benches but something that it seems he is not

intending to do. An interest interview on the programme on Radio

4. The interview talking about the pressure to keep on the northern

poor house, keeping the money flowing. Getting political parties

to form a consensus around the Northern Power house ideas he

championed in government and that Theresa May wobbled over when she

first entered Number Ten. He also spoke about the Hinkley deal

reconfirmed yesterday. He said he could not see what was different to

how they had gone about it, and the special share that the Government

claim it is has through the process from when he went through it with

the Cameron government. He was asked about whether or not he was planning

to write a political memoir but he said he did not know how the story

was going to end yet. And he sounded cool about the plan for more grammar

schools, so it sounded like a politicians planning a front line

comeback to politics but someone prepared to talk about what the

Government's doing, criticise where he thinks is necessary.

The UK Independence Party today reveals who'll replace

Mr Farage resigned in July after the Brexit vote.

There are five candidates to succeed him - MEPs

Diane James and Bill Etheridge, local councillor Lisa Duffy,

and activists Philip Broughton and Elizabeth Jones.

The Ministry of Defence has apologised for the death

of a 15-year-old Iraqi boy who drowned after he was arrested

by British soldiers in Basra in 2003.

Ahmad Ali died when he was forced into a river as punishment

The personnel involved were cleared of manslaughter

But a report by former High Court judge Sir George Newman has

raised serious concerns about their behaviour,

as well as the training and resources for British forces.

European leaders are gathering in the Slovakian capital Bratislava -

without a representative from the UK The European Council President

Donald Tusk has called on EU leaders to take a "sober and brutally

honest" look at the bloc's problems, in the wake of Britain's shock

Our Europe Correspondent is following the meeting in Bratislava

, good morning to you, Damian. As we mentioned the family photograph will

be minus the UK. The German Chancellor is warning that people

should not expect too much from the meeting, so what will they be

discussing? You are right, Angela Merkel arrived in the last few

minutes. What she said going into the castle up there on the hill

behind me, was that you can't solve all of Europe's problems in one

summit. She said also that we are in a critical situation, so what we

have to do is show people in Europe that we can do things better and she

specifically named in the realms of the security, fighting terrorism,

defence and growing the economy. What they will be talking about

there are specific things. There will be more efforts to secure

Europe's borders, so countries contributing more people and

equipment to do that, more efforts to co-ordinate security policy, more

efforts to tackle the influx of possible terror threats from

outside, more efforts to try to stimulate the economy by

contributing to investment plans. Interestingly, I think what they

will be doing is not making specific decisions here, so much as trying to

lay out a vision for the future. Slovakia, the host country, its

Foreign Minister said that this was about laying out a vision. He said

that Eurosceptics are gaining. That the EU leaders must tackle the

popularity of the EU to show it is a project that delivers benefits. That

is their aim. To set out a positive vision for the future. Thank you

Safety regulators in the US have announced a formal recall

of Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phones after nearly a hundred reports

The South Korean tech giant had already launched a voluntary

recall in ten countries after user complaints.

It says the problem affects 2.5 million devices globally,

The mother of missing British toddler Ben Needham has been told

to "prepare for the worst" by detectives who suspect

According to the Daily Mirror, British investigators

on the Greek island of Kos, where the 21-month-old vanished

in 1991, believe he may have been crushed to death by a digger.

Forensics teams are reportedly set to begin excavating at two sites

close to where Ben was last seen as he played near his

A man accused of hacking into the computer systems of the US

Army and NASA will find out today whether he'll be sent

Lauri Love, who has Asperger's and suffers from depression,

says he may kill himself if imprisoned in the United States.

He is alleged to have stolen huge amounts of data from US agencies

including the Federal Reserve, the Department of Defence,

And Joanna will be speaking to Lauri Love's lawyer on this

Hillary Clinton has held her first rally since taking three days

off the campaign trail after being diagnosed with pneumonia.

The Democratic candidate told supporters it was great to be back

but said her enforced break was "a gift".

If you may know, I recently had a cough, that turned out to be

pneumonia! I tried to power through it but even I had to admit maybe a

And Donald Trump has also been on the campaign trail.

After a day spent outlining his economic plans the

Republican candidate - often described as brash -

appeared on a TV chat show to be ribbed about his speaking style -

and get his famous hairstyle messed up.

Can I mess your hair up? CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.

So... As long... The answer is yes but the people in New Hampshire,

where I will be in an hour from now, I hope that they will understand.

Is it a yes? Go ahead! DRUM ROLL... A defining image of the campaign,

A defining image of the campaign, perhaps?

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

In a moment we'll be asking if Ukip has a future

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And by their own high standards Hugh, it was a fairly quiet night

Good morning, Joanna. We should not be laughing, strike a handful of

gold medals as a mini crisis after the steady stream of medals that we

have seen in Rio. It was a story of close but not quite especially for

the Para athletes. Richard Whitehead aiming for a selled gold medal in

the Games. The 40-year-old didn't have the start but he powered

through to take a joint silver medal after. He said he was not sure if he

could compete in Tokyo in 2020. Also on the track, the team of Kadeena

Cox, and Georgina Hermitage, and the rest of the relay team, finishing

with a silver medal in the relay race. In the wheelchair race,

Patricia Hewitt and Gordon Corera beaten by peer peer Peiffer and hued

hued hued. -- how'd how'd how'd. And the Anne Dunham taking a silver

in the equestrian. And a seven all time owe Olympic champion there. And

in the paracanoeing, claiming bronze in the Lagoa. It means that Para GB

are second on the medal table. They have passed the medal mark.

And Patricia Hewitt and Gordon Reid are to face one another in the

singles final, so definitely a gold for Britain in that one.

A British autistic man accused of hacking into US government

computers will today find out if he is to be

Last week, Lauri Love told this programme he would consider

killing himself if he is sent to the US.

Mr Love, who has Asperger's Syndrome, is accused of stealing

huge amounts of data from US agencies including

In a moment we will speak to Lauri's lawyer ahead of today's decision.

But first let's take a look back at how all this began -

Three years ago, someone posing as a UPS courier turned up

28-year-old Lauri Love was called downstairs to sign

It was all a deception, a police sting to catch a

man now accused of hacking into the FBI, the US

Central Bank and America's Missile Defence Agency.

Greetings, citizens of the world, we are Anonymous.

It's suspected Love was part of Anonymous, a secretive

network of hackers which targets government and companies.

They tend to hack not so much because they want

They do it because one of their beliefs is that

all corporate information should be in the public domain, so if people

are storing personal and private data, they want to release it.

If they think people are behaving badly,

Two weeks ago today, a line was crossed.

Two weeks ago today, Aaron Swartz was

Love is accused of being one of four Anonymous hackers behind

Operation Last Resort, an online protest which followed the suicide

With Aaron's death, we can wait no longer.

The time has come to show the United States

Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of

As payback, it is alleged Anonymous broke into

computer systems belonging to US agencies, including the FBI, the US

The Americans say they have evidence Lauri Love

himself downloaded thousands of staff records, including

He allegedly wrote to other hackers with the message, "Yes, I am

There is no suggestion though that he made money from this

This is particularly serious but I think it's more

The more people want to send a message saying if you try to

break into our systems, we will come after you.

Certainly there is no reason why anyone who calls

themselves a hacker or researcher should be getting

into something like Nasa or the Federal Reserve.

It's not the sort of thing you should be doing.

The US Army investigation command says they

traced some of the attacks back through an internet address in

Romania paid for by a PayPal account linked to Love.

After his arrest, he was questioned by Britain's National

Crime Agency but he has never been charged in the UK and the

investigation here appears to be over.

Instead, he is wanted by US authorities for accessing US

There's a war on whistle-blowers and hacktivists ongoing

in the United States and I don't think war is too

Love's supporters claim if he is extradited,

he could be sentenced to 99 years in a US prison.

Other hackers in his position say they've

been forced into a plea deal, a reduced sentence of ten years

In the UK, the maximum sentence for a computer

I think it's barely possibly that Lauri will receive any

The pressures to agree to a plea bargain

are enormous, and Lauri is facing charges in three

At a hearing in July, his defence argued

he suffers from depression and Asperger's, a form of

Lawyers in the US said he was using that as a shield to avoid justice.

The case is similar to that of Gary McKinnon, his decade-long battle

against extradition to the US ended in 2012 when Teresa May, then Home

Secretary, blocked the request on health grounds. His extradition

would give rise to such a high-risk of him ending his life. After that,

the law was changed, it is now judges not politicians who decide

these things. The idea was to rebalance and extradition deal with

the United States that many felt was unfair. The Love test is said to be

the first test and the judge will make her decision on October 16.

Lauri Love's US lawyer Tor Ekeland is here today and we will discuss

the extradition ruling in a moment, but last week Lauri

was talking to Victoria - he spoke about his fears of serving

It is quite absurd, any more than a few decades and you don't see an end

to it there are poor conditions in US prisons for people with mental

health difficulties and I think I would be at risk of dying. That is a

serious fear for you. Yes, it is was argued in the hearing that because

of depression and as burgers and because US prisons are not as

consummate as UK prisons for providing that sort of relief, you

tend to be put in a small room by yourself, in the UK they would

activate contact with families and support the person at risk. There is

a question of sovereignty here, in the UK we have a pretty functional

court system and a good prison system and in the US they feel they

can step in when they do not like the results. Is that how you see it,

the US stepping in? You know we have an extradition treaty, lots of

people have complained about it, nobody seems to be able to change it

despite campaigns by various people, it was signed by David Blunkett,

then Home Secretary, years ago, and he has made comments about it since,

that is the way you did. Yes, efforts have stalled at reforming

it, it is unbalanced, the US has not needed to present any evidence and

people will say this is absurd that I could be taken out of this country

without anything being proven. I hope the reforms will eventually be

successful and if the extradition is reviewed then it might help promote

this again. In terms of the three years this has been hanging over

you, what impact has a had on you, what impact has it had on your

family? I really feel for my parents, who have to worry have the

stress of this, it is very difficult for them. For myself, it has led to

my ex-manga quite often scratch my face and it bleed and I get

infections, I do not get a good nights sleep very often. I get the

immune system problems, so it would be nice to have less stress. But

this is an important process that keeps me going.

Let's talk now to Tor Ekeland, Lauri Love's US lawyer.

Thank you for coming in. The ruling on extradition is later today. Do

you have a sense on which way it might go? I am cautiously

optimistic. But I'm not going to speculate, it is a big moment for

him, it is at 2pm so we are anxious to hear what the court has to say.

If it does go against him, is it open to appeal? It is my

understanding he can appeal it, that is what the UK Council has told me

so undoubtedly if it goes against him he will appeal. So this won't be

it, then? It won't be but it is a big moment, the initial court ruling

will carry a lot of weight if it is anything like in the United States.

He is accused of hacking into American Government agencies

including the FBI, the army, Nasa, and the Federal reserve. If those

crimes were committed against US interests, why shouldn't the face

trial in the United States? The United States' approach to these

kinds of crimes are disproportionate to what kind of punishment he would

face in the United States. I feel they tend to punish hackers way

beyond the conduct justifies. But that is the law and if he has hacked

into American Government systems, that is the law there. The law he is

charged under is a controversial law in the United States, for instance

the alleged hacks were part of a protest against a computer print

abuse, action against a prominent individual called Aaron Swartz who

was prosecuted under this law and ended up committing suicide before

he went to trial because the penalties under the law are very

Draconian. The prosecuting lawyer has accused Lauri Love of courting

publicity and exaggerating his medical condition, accusing him of

using his personal difficulties effectively as a shield against

extradition. What do you say to that? I would say his personal

difficulties are real. I think most of my clients, I have a lot of

clients, ideal with a lot of computer hackers in the United

States, what makes these people good at computers also makes it difficult

for them to socially function and I think if you throw Lauri Love in a

US jail cell you have got a very, very good chance that he will kill

himself. I don't think that is a joke, I don't think he is using it

as a shield, I think it is a reality. The American prison service

must deal with prisoners with similar issues to those that Lauri

has? I have had clients put on suicide watch in US prisons who were

stripped naked and put in solitary confinement, I simply do not think

that is the way to deal with somebody who has these kinds of

issues. My experience with the US prison system is that it is a

barbaric system, not one that is interested in rehabilitating

anybody, simply a system interested in punishing somebody as harshly as

possible. We were hearing that most of the cases in the United States

end with a plea bargain, 95 to 96% of cases end that way. If he is

ultimately extradited, would you anticipate that is how things would

go? Possibly, you always enter plea negotiations with the Government but

that varies under the prosecutor. It varies under the weight of the

evidence, we have not seen the evidence in this case, we just have

a bunch of allegations by the government. Possibly, but I'm not

sure, sometimes you get a prosecutor hell-bent on sending somebody to

jail in order to make their career, so I think the possibility of

significant jail time for him is very real. Thank you very much.

Coming up - the woman behind seven decades of Bollywood music.

Our exclusive interview with singing superstar,

Asha Bhosle, who introduced rock and roll to India.

She is in the UK for her last ever performance.

The new leader of Ukip is due to be announced

Whoever wins will have big shoes to fill,

following the departure of Nigel Farage.

He resigned in July, saying his "political

ambition has been achieved", after Britain voted

Let's talk now to our correspondent Alex Forsyth who is at the party

Good morning, Alex. Good morning, delegates have been

gathering here this morning to find out who their new leader will be and

there are big shoes to fill because Nigel Farage has been a huge part of

Ukip from many, many years, and he is now stepping down, Ukip will have

to replace him. There are five candidates in the running and they

will not just have the job of filling Nigel Farage's shoes but,

now the UK has voted for Brexit, the big question is what does Ukip stand

for? I am joined by two delegates supporting two different candidates,

Caroline is backing Diane James, and something is the favourite, why are

you supporting her? She has been in Ukip the longest, she is a familiar

face and I think she has Nigel Farage's policies. I like Nigel

Farage very much, I am sad to see him leave, but Diane James is very

open, honest, forthright, she says what she thinks and I like somebody

who is very decisive. A bit like Nigel Farage? I like people like

that, I don't like people who beat around the bush. Charles, you are

backing Bill Etheridge, currently and any peak, one of the men on the

list. Why are you supporting him? I am supporting Bill Etheridge because

he is the only candidate to put forward a political philosophy,

libertarianism. Ukip cannot survive without a political philosophy, all

parties are based on political philosophy. The Conservatives have

Conservative, Labour have socialism, we have got to have libertarianism,

a small state with lower taxes. Diane, Lisa Duffy, none of the other

candidates have put that forward and showing political philosophy and we

need one. I guess that is one of the problems for Ukip, Ukip was all

about getting out of the EU, among other things, but now that is going

to happen, what does Ukip stand for? Well, is it going to happen? We have

not invoked article 50 yet, Teresa May says Brexit means Brexit but it

may never happen. A lot of people saying they want a second

referendum, but no thank you. Ukip has got to fight now, it is wide

Ukip is very important. You still think there is a role for the party

to play? Definitely. And of course a big question about those big shoes,

Nigel Farage was an enigmatic leader, if at times divisive. Do any

of these candidates have the same ability to reach out? It would be

silly to say they have the charisma of Nigel Farage because they don't,

but what Bill as is political philosophy and if he can say we

stand firmly in the right-wing spectrum, by which I mean small

state and lower taxes, not racism, we can win because people will say,

I want lower taxes and a small state, so if you want that, vote for

Bill. Thank you both very much, enjoy the rest of the conference.

The votes are being counted this morning, we expect the result in a

couple of hours but worth mentioning that Ukip has suffered some internal

fighting and party division said the new leader's challenge will not just

be setting a new direction and establishing identity but uniting

the party as well to go on and enjoy some of the success it has had so

far, so a big job for whoever takes over and fills those big Nigel

Farage shaped shoes. As she prepares

for her final UK tour, we meet Asha Bhosle,

the bollywood superstar, whose voice has been heard by more

than 2 billion people. And councils are calling for more

powers to monitor children being educated at home,

and to tackle illegal schools Let us know if you have thoughts on

illegal schools. We will discuss them shortly.

Here's the BBC Newsroom and a summary of todays news.

Flash flooding has hit parts of southern and north-east England

after torrential rain. A commuter train derailed in Hertfordshire

after a land slide caused by the rain. No injuries. The Environment

Agency has issued an amber warning for the south-east of England.

Reports of roads and properties hit by flooding in bark her, Hampshire

and greater London. And disruption to south-west train services after a

lightening strike caused damage to signalling equipment. Also delays on

Virgin east coast services. George Osborne said that the new

Prime Minister, Theresa May, was the best candidate for the Tory

leadership. Mr Osborne accepted he misjudged the

public mood in the run-up to Brexit. Now he has launched a fresh

initiative in the Northern Power house project. Saying that the

north/south divide needs to be resolved.

It is an idea that the cities and the councils of the north of England

are stronger together than apart. That they are close enough if you

bring them together you empower their civic leaderships, making

investments in science and arts and above all, investment in transport

connections and attract private sector business and investment not

just from this country but from around the world.

The UK Independence Party today reveals who'll replace

Mr Farage resigned in July after the Brexit vote.

There are five candidates to succeed him - MEPs

Diane James and Bill Etheridge, local councillor Lisa Duffy,

and activists Philip Broughton and Elizabeth Jones.

The Ministry of Defence has apologised for the death

of a 15-year-old Iraqi boy who drowned after he was arrested

by British soldiers in Basra in 2003.

Ahmad Ali died when he was forced into a river as punishment

The personnel involved were cleared of manslaughter

But a report by former High Court judge Sir George Newman has

raised serious concerns about their behaviour,

as well as the training and resources for British forces.

The mother of missing British toddler Ben Needham has been told

to "prepare for the worst" by detectives who suspect

According to the Daily Mirror, British investigators

on the Greek island of Kos, where the 21-month-old vanished

in 1991, believe he may have been crushed to death by a digger.

Forensic teams are reportedly set to begin excavating at two sites

close to where Ben was last seen as he played near his

Safety regulators in the United States have announced a formal

recall of Samsung Galaxy note 7 phones.

The South Korean tech giant had already launched a voluntary

recall in ten countries after user complaints.

It says the problem affects 2 and a half million devices globally,

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00.

Now the sport. Joanna, Great Britain will break the

50 gold medal mark in the Games in Rio today. A quiet night. Four

silvers and a gold. But six golds split by the paracanoe and

equestrian. Another is guaranteed in the men's wheelchair final. Not a

great night for Manchester United, they lost 1-0 against nine order.

Jose Mourinho saying he is taking the competition seriously, despite

making eight changes to the line up. Southampton, beat Sparta Prague,

they have not yet won in the Premier League but Charlie Austin scored

twice to get the campaign off to a winning start. England's women

return to the top of the euro 2017 qualifying group with a 5-0 win over

Estonia. A hat-trick for Danni Carter. And a

disappointing visit for Charlie Hull at the Evan championship. She

dropped four shots on the final throw holes to end the day eight off

the three. More sport after 10.00am. Snrp thank you very much.

When the song Brimful of Asha stormed the UK charts -

20 years ago - we all loved the song, but we didn't give much

So you might be surprised to hear that she's one of the most famous

separate songs...more than anyone else - ever.

But, unless you've watched a bollywood movie, you're probably

She's what's known in the indian film industry

That means she sings - and actresses

And having reigned for 7 decades in the world of cinema -

and now at the grand age of 83 - Asha Bhosle has decided

to hang up her headphones - when it comes to live

She plays her last concert this Sunday at Wembley.

She been speaking exclusively to this programme in her

only UK TV interview - with Sangita Myska.

OK, so, every single time I have mentioned the name of the person I'm

about to meet to a British Asian, this is the reaction that I get.

Despite the fact she has recorded more songs than any other person

in history and about one quarter of the world's population

has heard her voice, the only reason you probably

# Well, it's a brimful of Asha on the 45...

The Indian movie industry is the biggest on the planet.

Known as Bollywood, it makes twice as many movies as Hollywood

and sells 1 billion more cinema tickets every year.

The vast majority of movies are musicals where onscreen

actresses mime to the songs sung by professional singers.

Those singers are stars in their own right and they don't

get much bigger than the woman who inspired this billboard and,

of course, this former UK number one, Asha Bhosle.

But this weekend, to the horror of British fans, the woman nicknamed

the Last Empress Of Music announced she'll perform for the last time

Ahead of that concert, she spoke to us exclusively

about her life and music, starting with a quick lesson

in the craft of playback singing covering everything from Indian rock

And that's what you call, twist?

Asha Bhosle recorded her first song in 1943,

when black and white musicals were the norm,

semiclassical singing was the style and India was still under

When her theatre director father died and she married,

singing went from being a passion to a way to make ends meet.

I sang so many thousand songs, you can't imagine.

Night, whole night, whole day, only four hours of sleep,

Just tea and biscuits and I'm singing like that.

I have to work hard because I want to look after my children.

But she was always far more adventurous than her

By the 1950s, as newly independent India found her feet,

She experimented with western melodies, like rock and roll,

and combined perfect pitch with perfect timing.

Some of your songs at that time were judged as being too sexy

and you were criticised as being a bad

The classical singer and this thing and she's singing,

Did that ever hurt you, that criticism?

And it wasn't just musical taboos that she broke,

She married for love, twice, in an age when arranged

The first ended in divorce but the second was a happy,

creative partnership with composer, R D Burnham.

No regreats, because just to go like, you know, the river.

If you stop, then the water will be dirty, so go.

By the mid 1980s, when she recorded this BBC special, Asha's voice

By this stage, two women had dominated the Bollywood playback

Asha Bhosle and her sister, Lata Mangeshkar.

The gossip columns teamed with stories of rivalry,

This is not correct because her style is different,

I can sing her style but she's not singing my style.

Her style is very different, very sweet and love song and this

And I'm singing everything, every language, you know, like that.

She's one corner, she's singing here, I'm singing here.

In between, nobody can come because our singing

Another decade on and Asha Bhosle was so famous that the then

president of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, invited

her to perform seven dates around the country.

But she wasn't just busy with diplomatic missions.

There were a string of collaborations with western

I met Boy George and I was a fan because his songs,

His make up and his clothes and his singing.

So, he said, Asha, I am your fan, and I said, no, I am your fan.

The singer said she intends to keep those kinds of partnerships

going because at 83, it's the pressure, the tension that

You must, all the time, there's tension, then you can work,

good work, you look good also, because you're always in tension.

You're not relaxed like an old person, you know?

Well, eventually, but not before it earned her daughter a free meal.

My daughter, she went to America and she's sitting in some restaurant

and the song was going on, so she's listening, listening,

and she told some person that that song, it's about my mother.

So, they're so happy they gave her something to eat

And she told me that your song, that song is very popular.

And she got that record and we listened to this song.

# It's a brimful of Asha on the 45...#

And now you know who that song was about comedy very cool Asha Bhosle

it. Coming up, Bank of England Governor

Mark Carney will join us live for a special programme by the BBC School

report. Four men are being questioned in

Italy to do with the suicide of a woman who had a video of her posted

online. She became the subject of jokes and abuse. Tiziana killed

herself on Tuesday prompting shock and promote across the country. We

can speak to an Italian journalist who joins us from Tuscany. Tell us

more about what actually happened, it was a year ago that the video was

put on social media? It was a year ago, 2015, when the

video was put on social media, and since then Tiziana became the

subject of great attention not just from people but from the media as

well. She became, if you want, a weather phenomenon at the time

because of the videos that were wrongly spread. She thought she

could trust these five friends but instead they published those six

videos in total around the web, and since then Tiziana started suffering

from depression and her only will it was to remove those videos that were

causing her so much discomfort and grief.

How high profile were her efforts to try to get these videos removed?

She has been going through the process and procedures, so basically

she reported the case to a lawyer, and then she went to see different

experts on the case, and then finally the case was brought to

court and we heard just a few days ago the court ruling emerged

ordering these videos to be finally removed, so she has been going

through the legal and ordinary procedure when things like that

happen. She was made fun of, wasn't she, and

obviously struggled enormously with it. What will the last year like for

her, and how are people reacting to the fact that she has taken her own

life? It has been a very hard year for

her, not only had she started suffering from depression, realising

that her name in all those tapes were around, but also she was

obliged, she had to change a name, she changed location, she was not

living where she was born any more, she moved to a different region in

Italy, and of course in terms of reactions that have been a lot of

online abuse criticising her not just on the Internet generally but

especially on social media, Twitter, Facebook, so the reaction by the

people has been quite strong on that, and this obviously has caused

her and prompted this state of discomfort for Tiziana.

Four men are now being questioned in connection with what has happened.

What is happening with that? Four men have been now under

investigation for defamation for what has happened, it is a very

serious case now. Justice has to do is discourse. But mainly we are

speaking about reactions and what is really striking is the amount of

reaction coming not just from the public but also from institutions

and also representatives of the media.

How are people talking now about what the legacy of her experience

and her death might be? There is an interesting case, a

newspaper has apologised for having published an article back in 2015 on

her on this sort of web phenomenon at the time when the video started

to spread. He has apologised, saying, we should have taken more

care in doing so. Basically the removal of those videos doesn't

solve the case. What really solve the case is the fact that we have to

take pause and think about the legacy, especially from a

journalistic point of view because of course the way the story had been

portrayed back in 2015 is responsible for the way this woman

then felt and the suicide, ultimately.

Thank you very much. Some 37,000 children

in the UK are thought to be home-schooled -

but you may be surprised to know That's because there's no obligation

on parents to tell the authorities if they decide to educate

their children themselves. Local councils want that to change -

warning that many home schooled children may actually be attending

illegal schools that teach Let's talk now to councillor Richard

Watts from the Local Government Association, which represents

councils in England and Wales, and Jay Harman from the British

Humanist Association, who has done extensive

research on illegal schools. Thank you both very much for coming

in. Jade, tell us what you believe to be the truth about underground

schools? There are lots of illegal schools in this country that we know

about, the Department for Education knows about, Ofsted is aware of and

certain councils are aware of, and they provide an education which

really does not meet any definition of the term education. They teach

scripture from dawn until dusk, there is no education of things like

history, English, maths or science, certainly no sexual education or

anything like that, and these kids grow up in isolation and know

nothing about the culture outside. How do you know so much about what

goes on in them? Former pupils have come forward to the British Humanist

Association to express their concerns, to try and get the issue

some exposure and help them to get their experiences out there and go

to the authorities and get the issue dealt with. What is your perspective

on how it is being dealt with? Historically there has been a

tremendous amount of inaction on this, some of the schools have been

open for 30, 40 years illegally and nothing has been done about them. At

the moment Ofsted are in proving their work, certainly more councils

are taking action now, but they're still does not seem to be a legal

framework in place to tackled the issue. Bridget, if the schools are

illegal and quite a lot is known about them, why are they not been

properly dealt with, why is it taking so long for the like to be

shone on this? As councils, we would want the Government, the Department

for Education and Ofsted to crack down on these, they have the power

to crack down on the schools would they are running but although some

have been known about for some time many others are not known about and

that is one of the concerns we have about the fact that there is no

official record of who is home educated because there has been a

big increase in home educated children recently, many people think

it is to do with the rise in illegal schools, but if we don't know where

people are educated we have no way of tracking if they are in and

illegal school or being educated very well by loving parents at home.

You said the Government and Ofsted should do more to crack down, what

powers to local councils have? The Power that the moment are confused.

We have a power to safeguard children and make sure they are

receiving education, but because we have no power to know who is being

home-schooled or not, we simply lack the power was to make those

responsibilities to keep children safe reality, there is a loophole in

the safeguarding law. Jay, do you think it is fair enough that local

authorities are unable to do more, that it falls to the Government and

Ofsted? There is a balance to be struck, there has been a lot of

passing the buck but the main frustration over the inaction over

the years is how little has been done to close the loopholes. We have

been identifying for years that there are problems with illegal

provisions that allow local authorities to go in and sort things

out they should have been sorted out a long time ago. If your perspective

is that it is an issue of safeguarding children, then that is

a council issue, isn't it? Yes, unfortunately to go into parents

homes you need to have clear evidence that there are safeguarding

issues and that is sometimes hard to identify. Have councils managed to

access cases through that route? Absolutely, we would never go into a

parent's home unless we had good reason to think there was a vital

reason to do that. The majority of home-schooled kids are educated by

loving parents, it is not a problem, but the lack of legal powers to keep

a register of who is home-schooled provide a loophole through which

kids attending illegal schools can slip. Some of the concern about

illegal schools will be about the quality of education but others are

the fact that children are being taught by unqualified teachers in

unsafe buildings in an environment no child should be educated in will

stop if a school is offering 20 hours of lessons a week and is not

registered with the Department for Education, Ofsted, local

authorities, it is breaking the law, isn't it? Yes. It sounds like it

should be straightforward to deal with that in a legal sense? Yes,

Ofsted and the DFC have started prosecuting but unfortunately

prosecuting individuals that run the schools does not help the children

in them and often identifying... But it deals with the issue, doesn't it?

As I was going to say, when the schools are identified even if the

proprietors are prosecuted they will move elsewhere so enforcement needs

to be carried through to ensure children do not remain in the

schools. Why do you think prosecutions have not been

happening? It has taken some time to rise up the agenda enough for the

Department for Education and Ofsted to realise it is a priority,

councils have been saying for some time they are concerned about the

rise in illegal schooling but we have relied on the Department for

Education and Ofsted to use their powers to do something about this.

But everyone from the Secretary of State to the Chief Inspector Ofsted

have started to identify that this is a problem and we welcome the fact

they are doing more about it. However, as Jay said, the trouble is

you close one down and another starts up and you don't know about

it so it is important to make sure the children are safe as well as

going after the actual teachers and proprietors of those schools. That

is right. Thank you both very much. We invited the Education Minister

on to talk about this, The Department for Education

told us it is "cracking down" on illegal schools,

with "additional inspectors dedicated to rooting them out"

and "a new tougher approach Let's catch up with the weather now,

there have been storms and flash flooding in various places so let's

get the latest on that. We have gone from exceptional

September heat to exceptional September rain. We have had

temperatures exceeding 30 degrees over the last few days for the first

time in over 80 years. It has been an exceptional run of hot and humid

weather but it has all gone bang. Big storms yesterday, the first

storm cloud developed and headed across Berkshire, massive storm

cloud, the storms have been lighting up the skies overnight, those scenes

captured by our weather Watchers, this one showing in Thatcham. There

were a number of lightning strikes, not just lightning in the sky but

also large claps of thunder and torrential rain overnight. This was

the scene in Windsor overnight. We had some very big storms also

affecting Bracknell. You can see the lightning strikes. We have seen

around half a month of rainfall in the space of a few hours, bringing

flooding on the roads, the motorways, affecting railway lines

as well but it has not been grim everywhere. This is Cumbria, you can

see this straight line of cloud in the sky, this is the back side, if

you like, of the weather front, with the sunshine out in Cumbria. Some

sunny skies as well in Midlothian, so we have seen glimpses of sunshine

around. So far this morning the biggest of the thunderstorms has

been to the north of London, really cracking away way across parts of

Sussex, into parts of Suffolk and Essex, westwards into

Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Oxfordshire, where the heaviest

downpours have been, flooding reported on stretches of the M4 and

a landslide reported affecting the train line between parts of, I think

just the Lord West of London, Watford, I think. We have had some

impact from this storm system, they are getting more widespread through

the East Midlands and both went into East Anglia and south-east England

through the afternoon. Any storms affecting Scotland will clear out of

the way and there will be pleasant sunshine, feeling the pressure

compared with recent days. Scotland have had a cloud few days so at

least you get some sunshine today. The south-east of England will get

torrential storms continuing into the afternoon, the threat of

localised transport disruption and budding as well. Further westwards,

a fresher day, the sunshine coming out. Overnight tonight, the weather

front changes its mind, it was working eastwards, now coming back

in Westwood so further rain working into eastern areas of England. By

this stage, the rain probably not especially heavy and temperatures in

towns and cities between ten and 14 degrees. For the weekend, something

for everyone this weekend. There will be sunny spells for many others

but ad breaks rain in the north-west of the country on Sunday.

Temperatures around normal for the time of year, nowhere near as hot

and humid as it has been over recent days. Low pressure keeping the

weather settled over the UK for Saturday, cloud and rain across

eastern counties, easing off over time just to a lump of cloud by the

afternoon. That leaves us with the best of the sunshine across

Scotland, north-west England, Wales and the south-west of England, and

temperatures climb into the high teens and low 20s, so reasonable

whether to start the weekend. By Sunday, a slow-moving weather front

into the north-west of the UK will bring heavy rain to the north-west

of Scotland and Northern Ireland. For much of England and Wales, a dry

picture, some sunny spells but quite a bit of cloud and temperatures into

the high teens and low 20s. We have lost the exceptional September heat

and replaced it with big storms would -- big storms which will

rumble away for a while yet. Welcome to the programme

if you've just joined us - A unit in Wallingford in Oxfordshire

say it is cannot accept women about to give birth after the rain. There

have been several hundred people stuck on the train derailed at

Watford after the flash flooding. Sorry, we have a problem with the

autocue it is giving me the same stories on a loop. Let me refer to

my script. The Environment Agency has issued

an amber warning for parts There are reports of roads

and properties being hit by flooding across Surrey,

Berkshire, Hampshire, There is major disruption

to South West train services after a lightning strike caused

what the company says is substantial There are also delays

on Virgin East Coast services. The 6.19 aam service travelling from

Milton Keynes to Euston, London, when it reached north of Watford at

7.00am, Network Rail tell us what happened was that a small portion of

train derailed. It caused a derailment with a land slide. It hit

another train coming in the opposite direction. It is not a serious

collision. The other train has been able to carry on in the other

direction. The most important thing, no-one has been injured. But it is

causing and going to cause disruption. Of course, London

Euston, is one of the busiest train stations in London. The West Coast

Main Line up and down there north to Glasgow and other northern cities,

so two of the lines have reopened but the trains are moving more

slowly. Congestion on the line, delays, cancellations for the

passengers. We will keep you up-to-date with the

impact of the rain throughout the day.

The former Chancellor, George Osborne, who was recently

sacked as Chancellor by new prime minister Theresa May,

has told the BBC that he intends to "fight for the things that I care

And he claimed that Mrs May had "a bit of wobble" over committing

the government to his idea of a northern powerhouse.

Mr Osborne was speaking shortly before he launched his

new think tank to champion the powerhouse idea -

The Northern Powerhouse Partnership.

It's that the cities and counties of the north of England are stronger

together than apart, that they are geographically close

enough that if you bring them together, you empower their civic

leaderships, you make investment in their science and the arts and,

above all, make investment in their transport connections,

then you will attract private sector business and investment not just

from this country but from around the world.

The UK Independence Party will today reveal who'll replace

Mr Farage resigned in July after the Brexit vote.

There are five candidates to succeed him - MEPs

Diane James and Bill Etheridge, local councillor Lisa Duffy,

and activists Philip Broughton and Elizabeth Jones.

The mother of missing British toddler Ben Needham has been told

to "prepare for the worst" by detectives who suspect

According to the Daily Mirror, British investigators

on the Greek island of Kos, where the 21-month-old vanished

in 1991, believe he may have been crushed to death by a digger.

Forensic teams are reportedly set to begin excavating at two sites

close to where Ben was last seen as he played near his

An 80-year-old man with Alzheimer's has landed a record deal, after he

became a singing sensation. # Tell me, quando, quando, you bring

happiness for me # Oh, my darling tell me when...

Ted's son discovered that encouraging his father to sing while

he drove helped him cope with the disease. He posted the video live

which went viral. Ted has been signed to a record company in

London. I'm not surprised, he is great.

The death of a Chinese actress that sparked debate after refusing

chemotherapy in favour of Chinese traditional medicine. Get in touch

with us. use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

and If you text, you will be charged It may have been a quiet night

for Paralympics GB in Rio with 4 silvers and a bronze,

but the 6 golds they won earlier in the day means they're set

to break the 50 mark for these games and remain well on course

to beat their overall Kate Grey is our reporter in Rio

and she's been getting some reaction Paralympics GB are well on track to

getting to the medal target set before the Games.

How pleased are you with the Paralympics performance here, Tracy?

I am delighted. And it has been wonderful to see the

medal success and to give out some of the medals. Wonderful to do that.

Are you surprised? Not really. We set an achievable target before Rio.

They are doing that, performing brilliantly in their fields. I think

we should all be incredibly proud of what they are doing here.

There is such a great mix of experience, there is a great legacy

moving through the team? Amazing. And really young athletes achieving

so much. 15-year-olds getting swimming medals, the basketball

team. It is incredible how well they are doing.

Clearly the momentum has continued from London 2012, how do you build

on the way to Tokyo? It is important to continue to build, to have the

talent programme that we have so that we can have the medals in the

future. And to get people to support us by buying the National Lottery

tickets to continue with that funding.

What has the performance, the inspiration had on the athletes?

Very much much. The whole movement of Paralympic sports in Rio has been

incredibly successful. I hope it will inspire others to get involved.

Thank you very much. The Games draw to a close on Sunday. A couple of

more days for the Paralympics GB to finish on a high.

Well it's a competition Jose Mourinho alluded

to being almost beneath a club with the stature of Manchester

United but it certainly didn't look that way,

as they LOST their first Europa League

group stage match 1- nil to Dutch side Feyenoord,

with Mourinho making a large number of changes to the side that lost

I looked to this game with proper eyes.

You can say I changed eight players, OK, I changed eight players but I

played with a good team. I played with enough good players to win the

Elsewhere, Southampton won their first Europa League group

match 3-nil at home to Sparta Prague.

Striker Charlie Austin scored twice with Jay Rodriguez

and that, is their first win of the season under

England's women returned to the top of their Euro 2017 qualifying group

Danielle Carter scored a hat-trick, her second in as many

The Lionesses have already qualified for the tournament

I'm back with more sport after 10.30am.

The former Chancellor, George Osborne has made clear

he isn't going to retreat quietly to the backbenches, saying

he would fight for the things that he cares about.

He's launching a new think-tank to champion his Northern Powerhouse

initiative, and has said that despite having a "wobble" over his

Northern Powerhouse project, Theresa May has recommitted

Our political correspondent Ben Wright is in Westminster for us .

Let's bring in Ben Wright. He has been low professional but anyone who

thought he was going quietly, may have choke theed on their Corn

Flakes this morning? You are right. Two months after being sacked by

Theresa May on her first day in Downing Street, he was the first to

be dispatched. George Osborne has reemerged on the Radio 4 programme

talking to Nick Robinson, asked whether he would stay in politics,

that he would be. He would not be writing his hem wares as he doesn't

know how the story will end. So somebody who clearly sees his

future in politics, working out how to come back to front line politics.

He was asked by Nick to discuss his relationship with Theresa May, Ed

Davey, a Lib Dem Cabinet Minister in the coalition said yesterday that

George Osborne and Theresa May had a rotten relationship, and Nick

Robinson asked him about that this morning. I have worked with Theresa

May for 20 years. She is a person of integrity and intelligence and

frankly, one of the grown ups. You described her as the best person

of the candidates who put themselves forward. That is not the greatest

praise I have ever heard? I do genuinely think... Were there better

people who put themselves forward? In that contest, the people were the

best chance of bringing a divide Conservative Party together. I voted

for Theresa May, she was absolutely the best person for the job.

He is launching his own initiative on the Northern Power house is that

as he does not trust Theresa May to see through what he was talking

about in power? This was a project of his when in power, linking up the

northern incity tuitions, and linking of transport and councils

and governments. The Government say it will continue the plans but he

wants to keep the pedal to the floor. It is a way for him defining

himself. When Theresa May entered Downing Street, she said she wanted

to govern for everybody, not the privileged few. It was a bit of a

dig at the Cameron/Osborne era. Today was an example of him seeking

to define himself, setting out the priorities he believes in, so the

Northern Power house idea, he was cool about the plans for the change

of grammar schools, and so George Osborne reemerging after two months

of silence, and telling Westminster he is not going anywhere, he will be

a prominent voice over the next few years.

The death of a young Chinese actress from cancer has sparked

a debate on social media because she initially

chose traditional Chinese medicine over chemotherapy.

26-year-old Xu Ting was diagnosed with lymphoma, a form of cancer that

affects the immune system, earlier this year.

What happened with this actress? It is a sad story because Xu Ting was

only 26 when she died. She had been diagnosed with lymphoma and said she

was reluctant to take chemotherapy. There were several reasons for that,

she said she had seen friends with cancer sufferer under chemotherapy,

she was not convinced it was work and was worried about it affecting

her looks and the costs, so she decided to go from traditional

Chinese medicine, therapies like acupuncture, blood-letting and

cupping. It did not seem to work, or at least her condition got work, --

got worse, so towards the end of August she started chemotherapy but

sadly died on the 7th of September. How popular is Chinese medicine

today? It is a big thing in China, a lot of my friends use techniques

like acupuncture and say it is better for conditions like back pain

than Western medicine, it has been established for thousands of years

so the Chinese people take a lot of pride in it. But critics argue the

benefits have not been scientifically proven and more

research is needed so it is worth pointing out it is not just people

in China who follow traditional Chinese medicine, athletes like

Michael Phelps at the Olympics were using coping to help with back pain.

What has the reaction been to her death? There has been a lot of

debate online about whether Chinese medicine works or not. Her fans had

been begging her after she announced her lymphoma, telling her to please

get chemotherapy. One comment said, your belief in Chinese medicine is

endless, please listen to your doctor and go for chemotherapy. But

supporters of traditional Chinese medicine have been fighting back,

arguing that a lot of cancer patients are treated with

chemotherapy and might still die but it does not mean Western medicine is

a sham, so the debate goes on. Thank you very much.

Last week he was facing MPs over his views on Brexit -

today Mark Carney, the Governor of the Bank of England,

may have an even tougher audience to please when he faces questions

The Governor has agreed to a question-and-answer session

with 11-16-year-olds across the UK as part of BBC News School Report -

a project which gives thousands of young people the chance to get

involved with the news and to share their stories.

In a moment we'll cross live to a school in the West Midlands

but first let's take a look at how a Canadian came to be

They've got half an hour to ask him whatever they like.

Let's join them now, live at a school in the West Midlands -

Good morning. Welcome to BBC News School Report

life, I will be with you for the next half-hour as young people

questioned one of the most influential people in the country,

the governor of the bank of the, Mark Carney. We are live in Coventry

but school reporters from across the UK will get the opportunity to ask

their questions and you can join us as well by going to the BBC News

Facebook page. We are also on stab chat as well. Lots of questions to

get through in the next half an hour but first, BBC School Report, please

welcome your guest, the governor of the Bank of England, Mr Mark Carney.

APPLAUSE Thank you all, thank you, Tina.

Thank you for being patient, I'm sorry I was late, late for school

yet again, the story of my life! But I'm looking forward to having this

discussion with all of you and the questions brought in from around the

country. I want to just touch on three things to get us started, if I

made. First, how I got here. Not coming up on the train, getting in a

car and getting the late, but being governor of the Bank of England.

Secondly, a bit about what the Bank of England does, and thirdly a bit

of the economy and how it is changing and what it means for all

of you. B say up front that it is a total accident of history that I

became the Bank of England, I think a number of people in the UK are

still wondering how it happened or whether it should have happened. I

was born in Fort Smith in the far north of Canada, a town of about

2000 people. I grew up in a city called Edmonton which, at the time,

was about the size of Coventry and I went to a school just like this. I

was fortunate to have teachers who motivated me to find out about the

world and explore horizons, and as I studied I became interested in

economics. Not everyone is interested in economics but I became

interested in economics because I thought it explained how the world

was interconnected, how it worked, and how it could be made better. So,

after university, I worked as an economist in the private sector and

then the public sector. The key point I want to get across, I did

not have a fixed plan, some sort of grand vision that I would end appear

today, but I was doing something that I like to, something that I had

a passion about, and if you do that, you will succeed. It is hard to tell

exactly where or when, whether it is in sports, in drama, in economics,

in literature, whatever, engineering, you will succeed. What

happens in life, this is something John Lennon said, life is what

happens when you are making other plans, John Lennon, by the way, was

a member of the Beatles! The Beatles were a rock band in the 60s, I

should point that out! What I find is whenever I meet people who are

old enough to remember who the Beatles were, they are normally

surprised at where their career has taken them, but whether they are

happy depends on whether or not they have followed their passions, said

that is my first point, that is my tiny bit of career advice to you.

Secondly, I just wanted to touch on what the Bank of England actually

does. It was founded in 1694, over 300 years ago, and its original

mission in 1694 is still the mission today, to promote the good of the

people of the United Kingdom, and then we add on, how do we do that?

By maintaining monetary and financial stability. Let me explain

that, but does that mean? It basically means a series of things

to do with money. So, the first thing we do is we print money, we

create the banknotes that people use and actually this week we have just

launched the new ?5 note that have Winston Churchill on one side and

Her Majesty The Queen on the other. My colleagues, I hope, will pass a

few around so you can look at them and see how they are different.

Everyone who asks a nice question of me can keep one! What you will see

with these banknotes is they are different, they are made of polymer,

a type of plastic, cleaner, safer, stronger as a result, which means

they can last a spin in a washing machine, they can be crumbled and

folded, they can go through many trials and tribulations and still

hold their shape, and then they are much more difficult to counter bid,

so you can use them with confidence and don't have to worry that they

are counterfeit. The second thing the Bank of England does with

respect to money is we process it. Every transaction, every single

payment in this country ultimately settles through the Bank of England.

That totals, in a single day, to about half ?1 trillion of payments,

?3 million per second. We have the systems that ultimately make those

payments. The bird think we do with respect to money is keep its value.

-- the third thing. We keep inflation low, stable and

predictable, which means we sometimes have to change interest

rates, sometimes have to engage in purchasing assets, and that is what

we announced a few weeks ago, a series of initiatives in order to

make sure that inflation remained low and stable as this economy was

adjusting, and it will adjust, to the decision to leave the European

Union. We want to make sure we can support jobs and wages while we go

through these adjustments. The final think we do with respect to money if

we make sure it is secure. It is secure in the banks and the

financial system is robust. The last thing you want to worry about is the

ability to take your hard earned savings out of a bag when you want

it, and we want to make sure that our system can absorb shocks that

might happen around the world so that people in Coventry and across

the United Kingdom can just get on with their daily lives. So what we

do in the end is support confidence in money, in all aspects of life.

The thing about money, though, it is not an end, it is an means to an

end. The reason we have money is to finance companies, to help companies

produce the goods and services we all use, to help charities do their

jobs, to help support the arts, culture and sport. What money really

does, what the financial system does, is help our economy to adjust

and most importantly Advanta, and that brings me to my last point,

which is around the pace of change and the future of the economy. It is

fair to say that the economy is changing and advancing in a much

more rapid rate than it had in the past. There are a series of economic

and technological, even cultural shifts, that are changing how we

communicate and live, and this is an example of what the BBC has put on

in the way it is networked in and students from across the country,

using multiple channels, can reach people across the country from

Snapchat to live broadcast. That is an example of some of the changes.

These are tremendous breakthroughs that brings tremendous

opportunities. Yours is a generation that will seize the opportunities

from communications to biotech, all these different types of engineering

that will change the way we work and live and enjoy ourselves. In the

coming age, you will grow up, in your careers, in a system where

anyone can produce anything anywhere through 3-D printing. Where anyone

can broadcast a performance globally to a variety of channels, that is

true today. And where any business or even service, ultimately, can

sell their goods and services to places as far afield as China, you

do not have to be a big multinational, you can be a small

business located right here in Coventry or where I grew up in

Canada. So there is really a tremendous opportunity for what I

would call mass creativity, to use your imagination is to create things

and take advantage of that. And in order to truly take advantage of

that, all it really requires is a dedication to learning, continuous

learning, and, to go back to my first point, the easiest way to

learn continuously, the most enjoyable way, ultimately the most

productive way, is to learn about things that you care about. What

interests you, your passions. So the purpose, as I understand it, of the

BC school report, this element, is just to expose you to different

careers, opportunities, parts of the economy and society that might

interest you, to allow you to expand your imaginations in terms of what

is possible, because if I can be standing here as the governor of the

Bank of England, you can do whatever you want. With that, I will join

Tina... APPLAUSE

Thank you very much. OK, let's get on with the question

the first one is from here and it is from Martina. Hello, I have got a

question from Melanie from London, and she is asking, how is your job

relevant to people like us? A couple of things, what I have just said,

which is it is relevant because young people like yourselves and the

lady who asked the question can do my job if they want in the forms of

time if that is the type of thing they are interested in. More

broadly, it is relevant because if I and my colleagues do our job

properly, if we deal with all these issues related to money, you don't

have to worry about them. In other words you don't have to worry about

the financial system being there, it will be there. You don't have to

worry about inflation, you don't have to worry whether or not your

bank that is counterfeit, you can focus on, quite frankly, what for

most people are more interesting things, your passions. The second

question is from Kieran. Hello, I have got a question from grace, 14,

from Glasgow. She asks, why do we still have pennies when we cannot

buy anything with them? Good question! A very good question! It

is a question for the Royal Mint, who produced the pennies. We produce

the banknotes. I will say that in a number of other countries, because

the penny is not used very frequently, and, to be honest, I

rarely use them as well, they have done away with the penny and one of

the interesting thing is, in Canada, New Zealand, Australia, they have

done away or the equivalent, and what they did in each of those cases

is use the existing pennies, they give people the opportunity to

donate goes to charity as a transition and it was very

successful, but it is a decision for other people, and they are still

very much legal tender and can be used to buy things. Do you think it

is a good idea? At some point, I made the point that we keep

inflation low, stable, predictable, but what that means, what Parliament

tells us to do is what we have to do, is to make sure it averages

about 2% a year... Inflation is how you measure the cost of living?

Exactly, the cost of a chocolate bar or other goods should go up by 2%

every year, and ideally wages go up more than that so people are getting

ahead. But the point was that over time that means the value of a

penny, the real value of what a penny can buy, as by the question,

goes down, and so at some point it does make sense. So it is not worth

much and probably costs more to produce? Exactly.

OK, Spencer has the next question. Why should we resave money in a bank

when the interest rates are so low? Why, the interest rates have been

cut to 027? Well, when I save, it to put money aside for a bigger

purchase in the future. In your life, there will be times

when you get money, you maybe get a gift for your birthday or a holiday,

maybe in the summer in a few years you do a summer job and you get some

money, you don't want to spend all of that money immediately,

necessarily, as you may want to save up for a Wii or a bike or something.

Ultimately people save for a house and they have to put the money

aside. The reason for the money bag in the bank is that the bank is

secure and the money is there for them when they have to take it out.

Those are some reasons to save. But we recognise by keeping the interest

rates so low, we are giving incentives for people to spend or

invest in riskier things. Spencer, does that make sense? Yes.

Melissa? We know you for being the head of the Bank of England but as a

child, what was a nickname you were given by friends and relatives? Oh,

dear, as a child?! Well, you can tell us the ones that people call

you now, if there are any? . I was given nicknames which were a variant

of my name, Carnigae. That is a good one.

I liked that more than Carn I value. Canned woodland High school asks

what is the best and the worst part of your role as the governor of the

Bank of England? The best and the worst part of your job? The best

part of my job, you may expect me to say this but the best part of the

job are things like this, I have the privilege, I get to go around the

country. I often go to schools, I get to go to businesses. I see

really interesting businesses across the UK. I learn something from them,

talk to people moving forward, inventing and moving ahead. I find

that exciting. What we do at the bank is high-level in many respects.

We make big decisions about interest rates and where the economy is going

but it is really nice it is fun, it is interesting and it's energising

to see the decisions in the economy. That is the best thing.

In terms of the worst thing... Well, I-it's probably a, candidly, it is

that the nature of international meetings means that they are always

on the weekend. So it means that one out of every three weekends I have

to go somewhere to work for the weekend, then I come back. That is

probably the worst thing. But that is not too bad. I don't think that

anyone feels sorry for me, that I had to go to China a couple of weeks

ago or Washington in the next few weeks. Even the worst things are

good. What would you say that the toughest

day in your job has been so far? The toughest day, that was the night,

the overnight/morning of the referendum result.

The reason that was a tough day was not because of the results but

because we had put in place a bunch of plans, so we had planned for

either outcome but in order to make sure that the plans worked we had to

have a huge number of people co-ordinating with here in the UK

and people who do my types of jobs around the world and ensure that

everyone did the right thing at the right time so that nobody noticed

any ripples as a result of it. That was tough because you have what

we would call an execution, a plan but you have to put it into place

and there is always concern that it won't work perfectly or you have not

anticipated everything or that somehow or another it will not

execute the way it should. Would you say it worked? For that

part of it definitely worked. Everything that I said about money

that was supposed to happen happened and people could move on from there.

We have more questions on Brexit to come back to but the next question,

I bet you can't wait for those but the next question is from Amy,

please. If it was your choice to spend the UK's money on anything,

what would you spend it on? If it was your choice to spend all of the

UK's money on anything, what would you spend it on? It's a very good

question. That's a fantastic question.

I would not spend it on one thing. I would be a real economist. I would

go to the university down the road, the thing about consuming one thing,

whether it is a Dairy Milk that I like or watching my favourite show

on TV or listening to a band or doing any one thing is that after a

certain period of time it becomes less enjoyable, less and less

enjoyable. In everything in economics there is a fancy term for

that, diminishing marginal utility but the point is that one likes

variety after a while. What are the top three? The top

three things I would spend it on-jeez! I would spend it on Dairy

Milk. Other chocolate bars are available!

I would buy tickets to a football match. I would see my favourite

team. Of course, Coventry City is the favourite in the championships

but Everton in the Premiership. Sorry about that! I would... This

is... It's a tough question. . It's a great question. I will give

you an generational answer. I would spend it on music. And of course you

don't have to spend it on music anymore but a streaming service but

I tend to spend money on music when I can. So old records and things

like that. Amy, what do you think about that?

It's a very good decision! You have Amy's approval.

Thank you. That is the highest praise I have ever received. No-one

has ever said that for me. Thank you! William? This is from a girl

called Katelyn, aged 16, if you could give advice to your younger

self, financial advice, what would it be? So, financial advice to your

younger self, what would it be? Cast your mind back.

What I would have done, I would have taken a portion of the money I

saved, as I always try to save something of what I earn, even as a

discipline. I would have taken some of that money and put it in some

sort of equity fund. Something that was not just a pure savings vehicle.

Now, I ended up, my younger self ended up owing money for student

loans, so I did not have a lot of money to save it became more about

paying back the loans but it is not a bad thing when you are young to

have something that will grow, which has a higher risk but you have a

long life so you can ride out the risk. So having something in equity

would have made sense. Did you make mistakes with money

when you were younger? Of course. I didn't follow my advice all the time

of when you get a gift, don't spend it all right away.

I didn't always shop around for the best deal, if you will, on interest

rates or on a loan. I lost money.

I lost money, lots of times. By the way, with eneed all of the

fivers back! Just kidding! The next question comes from Louise. Amal

would like to know what we would do with the money when the monarch

changes. So, Amal would like to know what

would happen if the Queen decided to retire? What would happen to the

cash? If, well, we have the monarch on the banknote. Yes, if for

whatever reason, the monarch were to change, we would have the new

monarch on one side of the banknote representing the Head of State and

that's appropriate. That would come in over time. It would take a bit of

time to make sure that we had the designs and the prints and the

things to come out. What happens to all of the existing money? Well, you

have the examples of the new fivers coming around. So the existing ones

in circulation, the ones made of paper, those will come out of

circulation by the 5th of May of next year.

So gradually as those old fivers come back to the bank they will

trade new fivers for the old ones and we pull them from circulation.

By the time we get to May of next year, if you have an old fiver, you

would have to come to the Bank of England or mail it to us and we

would give you a new fiver for you. So we take it out of circulation

fairly quickly. How many of you have seen the new

fiver? Quite a few... Mark is handing them out later! We have had

lots of questions on Brexit, a Sianed way to say that Britain

exited the European Union after the referendum in June. A question from

Yasser, please. How were you made away of the Brexit result and what

was your first thought? I took a two-hour nap until about

1.30am in the morning. And the plan, I mentioned the plan forum rum

night, the plan was that other people would come in at 3.00am.

There are a bunch of people that worked on the market side as we

monitor the markets and act I have in the foreign exchange. They were

in all through the night. I got into the office at 3.30am. And as

everybody else, I didn't have special information but as the polls

were coming in, being reported on the BBC, I could see where the

result was coming. My reaction was to make sure that

the big plan that we had, that was being put in place and to ensure

that everybody was doing what they needed to do, including, I knew that

I would likely have to make a statement in the morning. I gave a

little more thought to what I was going to say than I had in the days

in the run-up when I made a draft. You spoke about it being the

toughest day in your job so far, is that partly as you were criticised

for taking sides at the time, saying it is a risk to leave? No, not at

all. The concern was really about getting

it right. It clearly, you know, the referendum could have gone either

way, that is why you have the votes, it is absolutely our responsibility,

the Bank of England to be prepared for these types of contingencies. We

had everybody in the world in the financial world focussed on this

event and we had to get it right. I, I felt a tremendous

responsibility to make sure we had prepared properly and we executed as

well as possible. That's a strain. It's interesting, to be frank, it is

exciting, it's important, I think we did get it right. But it was a tough

day. It is like a big game. It is exciting but it is also tough.

Thank you. The next question is from James.

Which countries outside of the EU do you see as trading allies

post-Brexit and from your experience of working around the world which

countries are the best to do business with and why? Which

countries outside of the EU do you see is our most likely trading

allies post-Brexit? The first thing to say is one of the tremendous

things about this economy, for centuries, is it has been one of the

most open economies in the world. Look at this region, you think about

Jaguar Land Rover, the aerospace industry, a huge history of great

exporting companies in the UK, and most countries want to trade with

the UK. There are a number of countries, including my home

country, Canada, Australia, a number of the big emerging markets who I am

confident will want to have deeper trading relationships with the UK

because of what the UK has to offer in business and services,

manufacturing, design, culture, financial services. So the

opportunity is very large. The other thing I will say is one of the

things that is exciting about technology and whether global

economy is going is that trade is no longer limited to just big firms. Or

even medium-sized firms. You can be a small firm, three to five people,

based here and you can sell around the world. And that is increasingly

going to be the case, and that is tremendously exciting and it should

be exciting for all of you but it really plays to the strengths of the

UK, because this is a really truly innovative country. If you had to

pick one, because James wanted to know the best countries were doing

business with? Well, Canada, clearly!

Amy has a question next. Max, 15, from Glasgow, wants to know if

Scotland was to become an independent country, but we still be

able to use the pound sterling? So if Scotland remained in the EU?

Right, this was a big issue a few years ago when there was an

independence referendum in Scotland, and one of the challenges which was

part of the debate, it is a technical issue but an important

technical issue, is that in order to share a currency, so for Scotland as

an independent country, if it were ever an independent country, if it

wanted to share the pound sterling, you need to share some degree of

sovereignty, so you cannot be fully independent and have a stable

currency union. So there is a tension between the two and part of

the reason for that, there is a variety of economic reasons, but

part of the reason for that goes back to the fourth thing I talked

about in terms of money and what the Bank of England does about making

sure the banks are secure, stable, the cars it is much harder to ensure

that is the case if you share a currency but don't have some common

what is called fiscal arrangements, some common flows of money across

Government level. We are running out of time so I will speed up a bit.

This question from Jay next. I'm 13 from Whitley Academy. My question

is, who was easier to work with, David Cameron or Theresa May? I am

glad he asked that! Fantastic! They are both very professional,

incredibly easy to work with, both focused on making the country

better. And that holds for the Chancellor 's I have worked with

both here and in Canada. These individuals have a lot of pressure

on them but they are trying to do the right thing and do it in a way

that, when they could across what I do in a way that is based on the

facts and the best judgments. Does that answer your question? It does.

That is good! Quickfire questions, dream job, not the one you are

doing? Ice hockey goalie in the NHL. What TV programme is your guilty

pleasure? Great British Bake Off. Most expensive luxury you have

brought? Pass, I can't think. Favourite film. Gallipoli. Favourite

food. Peter. How much money do you have a new now? I know I have a new

five in my pocket but about ?40 in my bag. Spend or save a? At the

moment, favour. Cats or dogs? Dogs, but I have a cat! I am outvoted!

Football or ice hockey? Right now football because it is incredibly

important that you know the personalities in sports. Skepta or

Craig David? Both UK artists. I can't pretend to know that! We will

give you a playlist! The specials! BBC School Report gives young people

across the UK a chance to engage with the news, get involved and

shared their stories. If you would like to find out more or get your

school involved, go to the BBC School report website. On behalf of

all of the BBC News report School reporters here and across the UK, we

would like is a very big thank you to Mark Carney for taking all of

your questions. APPLAUSE

That was great, lots of praise from you as well for the questioners.

One tweet, the schoolchildren are asking brilliant questions to Mark

Carney, news channels take hints! Another, Mark Carney would spend the

UK's money on Derek McInnes music if he had the choice, I would like

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