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Hello, it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling, | :00:07. | :00:08. | |
Our top story today, the American election gets nasty. | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
With just days to go till the nation decides between Hillary Clinton | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
and Donald Trump, leading democrats say the head of the FBI may | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
have broken the law, by announcing a new inquiry into | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
The FBI is reopening the investigation into the criminal and | :00:25. | :00:41. | |
illegal conduct of Hillary Clinton. Voters deserve to get full and | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
complete facts. And so we called an director James Comey to explain | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
everything right away, put it all out on the table. | :00:52. | :00:55. | |
Also on the programme, are drug fix rooms, where addicts | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
can inject heroin safely, a good idea? | :00:58. | :00:59. | |
Glasgow's likely to give the go, ahead to one later today. | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
These services are compassionate, they are evidence -based, they are | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
low threshold and give people back some dignity and respect. | :01:11. | :01:14. | |
We'll hear from heroin addicts and drug campaigners, | :01:15. | :01:16. | |
and we're really keen to hear your views. | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
Plus, do schools fail adopted children? | :01:19. | :01:19. | |
If you've adopted a child we're really keen to hear your experience | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11:00am. | :01:23. | :01:39. | |
Throughout the morning we'll bring you the latest breaking news | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
and developing stories and, as always, really keen | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
A little later we'll talk to the Labour MP who's | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
campaigning against the cost of children's funerals. | :01:48. | :01:49. | |
Carolyn Harris had to borrow money and take out a loan to pay for her 8 | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
year old sons funeral after he was killed | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
She's talking for the first time about her experience. | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning, | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
The FBI is being asked to explain its decision to examine | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
new evidence in relation to Hillary Clinton's | :02:10. | :02:11. | |
use of a private email server when she was the US | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
The leader of the Democratic Party in the US Senate, has said the head | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
of the FBI may have broken the law by releasing details | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
of a new investigation linked to a staffer Mrs Clinton. | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
With the polls tightening, the Clinton campaign is mounting | :02:29. | :02:35. | |
a fierce fightback against the FBI's decision to reveal it was looking | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
at a fresh batch of emails related to the investigation | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
into Hillary Clinton's private server. | :02:45. | :02:46. | |
Her officials are pointing to the fact that the Department | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
of Justice warned the FBI against disclosing that they were | :02:50. | :02:51. | |
looking at a potentially new trove of emails. | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
Hillary Clinton believes it is both strange and troubling to talk | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
about the new inquiry so close to polling day. | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
There's a lot of noise and distraction but it really comes | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
down to what kind of future we want and who as our president | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
The Democrats are pointing out that no one knows whether this latest | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
batch contains new emails or classified information. | :03:16. | :03:17. | |
The FBI director James Comey has repeatedly been attacked | :03:18. | :03:19. | |
by the Republicans for closing the Clinton case in July, | :03:20. | :03:22. | |
despite describing her handling of secret information as reckless. | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
The Clinton campaign is demanding that the FBI | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
explain its decision to reveal that it was reopening | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
Why would you break these two protocols? | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
Why would you release information that is so incomplete | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
when you haven't even seen the material yourself? | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
11 days before an election, why would you talk about | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
Ladies and gentlemen, the next and first female President | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
of the United States, Hillary Clinton! | :03:55. | :04:01. | |
Hillary Clinton, like her opponent, is investing large swathes | :04:02. | :04:03. | |
With an eye to appealing to the Hispanic community, | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
she shared a stage with Jennifer Lopez in Miami. | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
But there are early indications that this | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
new investigation is chipping away at Hillary Clinton's | :04:16. | :04:17. | |
The Clinton campaign's complaint is that the FBI statement was long | :04:18. | :04:23. | |
on innuendo and short on facts and it's opened the doors | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
for Donald Trump to accuse her of criminal and illegal activity. | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
These are anxious days for Hillary Clinton. | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
Just days ago, her team believed victory was almost in its grasp. | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
Gavin Hewitt, BBC News, Florida. | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
We can get more now from our correspondent, Daniella Relph, | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
how could the FBI have broken the law? | :04:49. | :04:56. | |
This claim about breaking the law has come from one of the most senior | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
Democrat politicians in the US, Harry Reid. He is a political | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
veteran, he is 77, he seen it all. He is head of the Democrats in the | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
Senate and comes at this as a Hillary Clinton supporter. He's | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
written to the head of the FBI James Comey and said he believes he's had | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
double standards and is trying to favour one political party over the | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
other. He said he believes the head of the FBI has violated a law which | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
bans officials from getting involved in the vote and outcome of an | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
election. In his letter Harry Reid has written to James Comey and said | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
"Through your partisan actions you have broken the law". You have this | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
situation eight days before an election, one of the most senior | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
Democrats in the country accusing the FBI of trying to influence the | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
election. In the backdrop you have this Hillary Clinton e-mail scandal. | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
There are now these two key figures involved in this and they are former | :05:56. | :06:01. | |
congressmen Anthony Wiener and his wife who is very much Hillary | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
Clinton's right-hand woman. They are at the centre of this, a political | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
power coupled with great careers ahead of them. Anthony Wiener has | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
had some sex scandals. His marriage, his political career is over but it | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
is his laptop at the centre of this latest e-mail allegations. That is | :06:22. | :06:30. | |
at the centre of the investigation. There could be more than 600,000 | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
e-mails to go through so this isn't going to be resolved by next | :06:34. | :06:35. | |
Tuesday. Thank you. Plenty more reaction on this to come | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
throughout the programme. Annita is in the BBC | :06:39. | :06:41. | |
Newsroom with a summary A group of MPs says the Government's | :06:42. | :06:43. | |
claim that it's putting an extra 10 billion pounds into the NHS over | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
the next 5 years is incorrect. The Treasury insists | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
it is investing that amount, but the Conservative Chair | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
of the Commons Health Select Committee Dr Sarah Wollaston warns | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
more money is needed to avoid Earlier this month at | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
the Conservative Party conference, Theresa May proudly spoke | :07:02. | :07:09. | |
about the extra ?10 billion she said her party was putting into the NHS | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
over the next five years. But now a member of her own party | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
and the influential chair of the Health Select Committee, | :07:20. | :07:21. | |
Doctor Sarah Wollaston, In a strongly worded letter, | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
she says the figure of ?10 She accuses the government of giving | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
the false impression that the NHS And she says cuts from local | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
government budgets for public health and social care are having a severe | :07:36. | :07:43. | |
impact on the health service through increased | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
emergency attendances By changing pots of money from one | :07:47. | :07:47. | |
part of the health budget to another, for example taking money | :07:48. | :07:55. | |
out of public health and health education, | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
it can give an impression more is given when in fact the real | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
figure is very considerably lower, and in the run, up to the spending | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
review, as I have said, the point is we need to be very | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
clear that the NHS and social care are in a serious financial | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
crisis at the moment. Responding, the Treasury said | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
the government had backed the NHS's plan for the future | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
with a ?10 billion real terms increase in funding, | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
and that it was wrong It also said local governments had | :08:24. | :08:26. | |
access to the funding they needed While there is a disagreement | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
about how much money is being put into the NHS, | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
the pressures on it and the cost The Home Secretary Amber Rudd | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
is expected to announce today whether she'll commission an inquiry | :08:42. | :08:53. | |
into the clash between police and miners at Orgreave | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
in South Yorkshire. It was the most violent | :08:57. | :08:57. | |
confrontation of the More than 120 officers | :08:58. | :08:59. | |
and miners were injured, Campaigners claim police | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
used excessive force Thousands of people in Italy have | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
spent the night sleeping in cars and tents after the country's | :09:09. | :09:17. | |
biggest earthquake in 40 years. The 6.6-magnitude quake struck close | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
to the region where nearly 300 people were killed by | :09:23. | :09:24. | |
another quake in August. This time no one appears | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
to have died, but around 20 Tremors were felt in the capital | :09:29. | :09:30. | |
Rome, where the Metro system was shut down, | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
and as far away as Venice Our correspondent Jenny Hill is in | :09:35. | :09:36. | |
Norcia and sent us this update. There is widespread relief that no | :09:37. | :09:47. | |
one was killed in yesterday's earthquake but villages and towns | :09:48. | :09:50. | |
have been all but destroyed You can see this building behind me, | :09:51. | :09:52. | |
clearly it was somebody's home. We're able to stare straight | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
into the dining room. Rather remarkably, actually I don't | :09:57. | :09:58. | |
know if you can see, framed pictures on the walls | :09:59. | :10:00. | |
which haven't moved at all during what's been the strongest | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
earthquake in decades to hit this This morning people | :10:04. | :10:05. | |
are waking up in tents. No one is allowed inside the ancient | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
town walls here because the firefighters we've been | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
to speaking to this morning say it's In fact, the authorities are urging | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
people who live in Norcia and the towns and villages around it | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
to leave the area, to take emergency accommodation miles away | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
on the Adriatic coast and that's because experts predict | :10:30. | :10:31. | |
there will be more earthquakes We've actually felt some ourselves | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
this morning and the ground ready shakes, and we can hear bits | :10:34. | :10:53. | |
of masonry falling off the buildings Very dangerous of course | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
for the emergency services who were told are still inside the city | :10:57. | :10:59. | |
was going to the buildings trying to make sure that no one is trapped | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
inside still but as I say, the authorities tell us, | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
as far as they are aware, no one was killed although there are many, | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
many question marks for people in towns like this | :11:10. | :11:11. | |
about what happens now. It may be sometime before they can | :11:12. | :11:13. | |
return to them if they ever want to. A lot of fear here this morning, | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
of course, lots of questions for the Italian government to answer | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
too about how to make sure that future earthquakes don't | :11:22. | :11:23. | |
devastate towns and villages Changes to the way disabled people | :11:24. | :11:25. | |
are assessed for out of work benefits have been outlined | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
by the government. The measures, set out | :11:31. | :11:32. | |
in a consultation document, include a review of statutory sick | :11:33. | :11:34. | |
pay and GP "fit notes" to encourage people who receive Employment | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
and Support Allowance to make Disability charities have warned | :11:38. | :11:39. | |
that some people may not be able to work, no matter how much | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
support they receive. A plan to set up so-called "fix | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
rooms" to allow drug addicts to inject safely under supervision | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
is likely to get the go, Members of the health board, | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
the local authority and police are expected to agree | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
to the idea in principle. These clinics have been | :12:00. | :12:02. | |
running successfully across Europe for decades, | :12:03. | :12:04. | |
but this will be the first time That's a summary of the latest BBC | :12:05. | :12:06. | |
News. That's a summary of the latest BBC | :12:07. | :12:24. | |
News, more at 9:30am. What do you think about these six | :12:25. | :12:36. | |
rooms? Gemma on Facebook says "Addicts need to be loved and cared | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
for and treated with the same respect that we treat everyone | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
with". Anthony says "As long as there is support for the addicts | :12:46. | :12:53. | |
then I guess it's a good idea." Adrian says "It's working in other | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
countries and must be a positive step. | :12:58. | :13:00. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning, | :13:01. | :13:02. | |
use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
Let's get some sport with Olly Foster. | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
Olly, another win for Lewis Hamilton but he's left it | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
He was a bit downbeat after his win in the Mexican Grand Prix yesterday. | :13:12. | :13:22. | |
Still 19 points behind his Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg who was | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
second in Mexico City. That means he only needs to finish second or third | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
in the next two races, there's only two races left of the season. | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
Hamilton started on pole position pretty untroubled but Rosberg could | :13:36. | :13:42. | |
win it in a fortnight in Brazil, then there is Abu Dhabi after that. | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
Hamilton has sort of conceded the title but he'll give it ago, he says | :13:47. | :13:48. | |
say never. It's all looking very tight | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
at the top of the Premier League? It's difficult to call at this early | :13:56. | :14:04. | |
stage. There's only one point separating the top four teams. | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool. Chelsea, difficult to believe how | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
awful they were last season, they were champions two seasons ago and | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
it seems they have discovered that championship winning form. They beat | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
Southampton 2-0 and have got 22 points, double the amount at the | :14:26. | :14:34. | |
same stage last season. Even -- Eden Hazard scored a great goal and they | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
are up to fourth and in the title mix as well. Everton were winners as | :14:39. | :14:40. | |
well yesterday beating West Ham. Andy Murray could be world number | :14:41. | :14:42. | |
one a week from now? He has had an incredible season. | :14:43. | :14:52. | |
Seven titles to his name. He's won three in a row and beat Jo-Wilfried | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
Tsonga in straight sets yesterday after winning in Shanghai and | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
Beijing. The way this ranking system works is it's on a rolling 12 month | :15:01. | :15:02. | |
period. Novak Djokovic is dropping points | :15:03. | :15:13. | |
which means if Andy Murray wins in Paris, the masters event next week | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
which has a lot of ranking points going there, and Novak Djokovic does | :15:18. | :15:20. | |
not reach the final, he was beaten in the final last year, when | :15:21. | :15:24. | |
everything is recalibrated on Sunday evening, Andy Murray would become | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
number one before they go into the world tour finals in London. An | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
incredible year could be capped if he becomes world number one. Let's | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
hope for that. Cycling. So Bradley Wiggins. What has he been up to? He | :15:40. | :15:45. | |
has been racing in London alongside his team-mate Mark Cavendish. They | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
were runners-up for the Belgian pair and he said he will retire after the | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
six-day event which starts on November 15. He really has enjoyed | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
himself at the old Olympic stadium in London over the last six days. He | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
joked with the crowd he might carry on because his loving it so much | :16:04. | :16:08. | |
that he is 36 now and he is very, very unlikely to do so. We will see | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
how he gets on in a fortnight with Mark Cavendish racing together again | :16:14. | :16:21. | |
against... Where Bradley begins was born, where it all started. Coming | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
full circle. Thank you. Officials in Glasgow are today | :16:25. | :16:26. | |
expected to give their initial backing to a controversial plan | :16:27. | :16:28. | |
to set up so, called "fix rooms" or "shooting galleries" where drug | :16:29. | :16:31. | |
addicts could inject heroin There are plans to open the UK's | :16:32. | :16:33. | |
first fix room in Glasgow. It's a place where users can take | :16:34. | :16:41. | |
dangerous drugs like heroin under It's estimated there are around 5000 | :16:42. | :16:44. | |
heroin users in Glasgow. Of those, up to 500 inject | :16:45. | :16:53. | |
themselves in public places. Fix rooms are also called safe | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
injecting centres and their main aim is to reduce the risk of death, | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
overdose and transmitting disease. They are also places where high risk | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
drug users can connect The addicts bring their own supplies | :17:08. | :17:10. | |
of the drugs but nurses and social workers are on stand, | :17:11. | :17:18. | |
by if something goes wrong. workers are on standby if something | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
goes wrong. The police in these areas have taken | :17:24. | :17:24. | |
the decision not to These so-called clinics have been | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
running across Europe for decades. Copenhagen in Denmark is home | :17:28. | :17:35. | |
to a large drugs scene and there ne of these fixing rooms | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
was set up in 2013. At the time, police said | :17:39. | :17:40. | |
the introduction of the facility led to a reduction in crime and fewer | :17:41. | :17:43. | |
fights between addicts. This area used to be | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
littered with syringes. Social workers say they regularly | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
picked up several hundred every day. But since the drug consumption | :17:51. | :17:52. | |
room opened a year ago, We are concerned this may mean that | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
more people continue to use drugs and there will be more | :17:56. | :18:04. | |
dealing in the area. Because heroin users need bits | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
of kit like needles and syringes, heroin can be | :18:12. | :18:13. | |
a public health problem. Last year there was a reported spike | :18:14. | :18:15. | |
in HIV infections in Glasgow, which authorities said was down | :18:16. | :18:18. | |
to heroin addicts sharing needles. If it opens, Glasgow's new fixing | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
room would be the first of its kind in the UK, but the details must be | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
first worked out including how much the facility would cost, | :18:27. | :18:29. | |
where it would be situated, The Drug and Alcohol Partnership | :18:30. | :18:32. | |
in Glasgow is expected Daniel on Facebook said, my sister | :18:33. | :18:56. | |
died in 2001 due to heroin. The safest way to prevent these | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
tragedies is not to use it at all. Louise on Facebook, this makes drug | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
use more acceptable and palatable. Next they will say we need to make | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
it legal or downgraded legally. Wrong, we need to stamp it out. It | :19:09. | :19:10. | |
is not acceptable. We can speak now to Niamh Eastwood, | :19:11. | :19:12. | |
from the charity Release, which provides expertise on drugs | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
and drugs law, she wants to see these fix rooms across the UK, | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
Chip Somers, a former heroin addict, who thinks the clinics | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
would be a waste of money. Thank you all for coming in. Tell us | :19:22. | :19:35. | |
why you support the rooms. We have a lot of evidence of the positive | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
effects of drug consumption, safer injecting facilities, which is what | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
the term is, rather than fix rooms. The first set up in Switzerland. | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
1996. With the evidence from 90 clinics around the world, millions | :19:53. | :19:59. | |
of episodes of injecting, and not one drug-related death, not one | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
overdose fatality. At the moment, in England and Wales and across the UK, | :20:04. | :20:06. | |
we have the highest rates of drug-related deaths on record, one | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
of the highest in Western Europe. People are dying because of heroin | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
and morphine. 107% increase in the number of drug-related deaths in the | :20:19. | :20:21. | |
last three years, related to heroin, a crisis, which needs a pragmatic | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
evidence -based response and the reality is drug consumption rooms | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
are a way to reduce drug-related deaths, overdoses and fatalities. In | :20:35. | :20:38. | |
Vancouver, when they introduced it in the late 90s, they saw a 35% | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
reduction in overdose fatalities. That's what we want to see. | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
Facilities policies, programmes, to save people's lives and this is what | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
this proposal by Glasgow which should be applauded, can do. You can | :20:56. | :20:58. | |
save lives and unabashedly against that. You are against this. You're | :20:59. | :21:04. | |
not persuaded by that argument? Unfortunately not. She is a | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
supporter of drugs and decriminalisation and that's what is | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
being proposed here. Your piece referred to 5000 problem users in | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
Glasgow but the actual number could be three times that so this centre | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
could attract thousands of drug users to it but the idea this is a | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
proposal to save lives, that's precisely the rationale used to | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
develop a national methadone programme, to distribute thousands | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
of needles, to distribute the reversal drugs and we've not seen | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
any reduction in drug-related deaths in Scotland, a steady rise instead. | :21:40. | :21:46. | |
If you leave drug use in the lives of addicts, it causes chaos. We need | :21:47. | :21:51. | |
services not enabling users to use these substances but enabling them | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
to get off drugs and when we survey Dover 1200 drug users, less than 5% | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
said they wanted help to use drugs with a greater degree of safety. The | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
vast majority said they wanted to get off drugs. We have services | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
refusing to acknowledge the voices of drug users themselves. That's | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
what we should be doing, having facilities dedicated to helping drug | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
users recover rather than proposing a means where they can use drugs | :22:17. | :22:23. | |
more easily. You are a former heroin addict. You now help people to get | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
off drugs. Do you agree with what you're hearing here about people not | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
wanting to be told how to use it safely but to be told how to get off | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
it? Most people using drugs don't want to use drugs, they want to stop | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
using drugs. I wouldn't have used one when I was using because when I | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
had my drugs I want to get home as quickly as possible, enjoyed in my | :22:45. | :22:52. | |
own home, and just be Private. Yes, of course, there were things which | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
went wrong and I'm in favour of anything that helps reduce the | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
numbers of deaths for young people using drugs. My problem with this is | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
the expense it's going to be to run a facility like this, I think around | :23:05. | :23:11. | |
?200,000 plus, an awful lot of people through a rehab programme and | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
getting them out of the system. My concern about this is the cost at a | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
time when people are finding it incredibly difficult to get into | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
rehab, get support. The empathetic approach which will be taken by the | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
people who work within these drug rooms should be given to people who | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
are currently receiving methadone and other support. At the moment, | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
they are lucky if they see their drug worker for 20 minutes every | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
three weeks and that's where we should put the money rather than in | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
an enterprise like this. I don't think this is either or argument. | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
It's about making sure we have a system in place. Its money spent on | :23:49. | :23:58. | |
this, not being spent on rehab. In terms of cost, the evidence across | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
the world show there are cost savings associated with this policy. | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
The reality for a lot of people, accessing this, they are often | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
marginalised, using on the streets often, so what happens is that they | :24:13. | :24:21. | |
experience an overdose on the street, suffer from related | :24:22. | :24:29. | |
injuries, so have to be taken to hospital by ambulance, and money | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
could be saved in terms of reducing the costs associated with that. What | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
about the long run but people are going to these places? Is there any | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
evidence to show they are getting off drugs? Yes, this is hard to | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
reach groups so we have them coming into a formal setting, where they | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
can inject safely, they get access to social services and health care, | :24:52. | :24:58. | |
and also a range of other really positive interventions. Evidence | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
shows that it makes people much more likely to engage with treatment | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
services if they have access to these drug consumption rooms. The | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
evidence in this case is overwhelming for the positive nature | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
of this. Does this persuade you? She's giving a misleading impression | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
that this is a route to get drug users off drugs. If you set up a | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
facility, which is there to enable drug users to bring in illegal drugs | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
to the setting and use it, the idea that that is a catalyst to their | :25:31. | :25:37. | |
recovery, it is at Lee misleading to present it in that way. There's | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
plenty of evidence in this case, it is well-established. I didn't | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
interrupt you, so please let me finish. Don't talk over each other. | :25:46. | :25:51. | |
What about the evidence, though, because there has been 30 years | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
experience, so why don't you believe there is evidence to show it needs | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
to be coming off drugs? There is evidence you can attract drug users | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
to those centres. There was no evidence that they become drug-free | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
as a result of that contact. That is the problem with these initiatives. | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
They are presented as an attractive way to make contact. I just want me | :26:11. | :26:18. | |
to answer that. Is there hard evidence? It at the same people just | :26:19. | :26:27. | |
coming back? There is hard evidence. Give me figures. The reduction in | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
sharing equipment, so research from Switzerland for example shows there | :26:32. | :26:39. | |
was a reduction of 70% of people accessing needles, and reducing | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
their sharing of equipment. That stopping sharing not getting off | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
drugs. It reduces it. It has to be the fundamental basis that a drug | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
policy, the first step. Let reduce blood-borne viruses. There is | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
evidence from Vancouver, an amazing project, the middle floor is where | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
people can go and get substitute therapy, a rehab associated with it. | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
But still no hard evidence of people coming off drugs? I haven't got the | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
statistics. I'm not going to make it up, but what I will say is, from | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
what we've seen across the world, that is what happens and if we had | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
people stable, transitioning from injecting street heroin in a risky | :27:26. | :27:28. | |
environment, onto a long-term prescribing regime of pharmaceutical | :27:29. | :27:35. | |
heroin, that is positive. We are saving lives. I can't see why | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
anybody objective is more important than saving people's lives. What is | :27:40. | :27:46. | |
the litmus test for you? I presume these are people who are completely | :27:47. | :27:49. | |
out of touch with all other services because they can't be using | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
methadone and use heroin in consumption rooms. That would make a | :27:55. | :27:56. | |
complete nonsense of the method don't prescribing system. I'm hoping | :27:57. | :28:03. | |
it allows people who are no contact with the services to be in touch | :28:04. | :28:06. | |
with some services that will be a good thing. -- methadone. I have a | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
concern about the parlous state of the services being provided. This | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
kind of support, introduction to rehab should already have been done | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
with clients they are dealing with now and it has not been. But not | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
everybody is ready for treatment. That's really important. When they | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
get to a point where we have transitional points to get people | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
into long-term treatment... People can be moved towards being ready. | :28:33. | :28:40. | |
That work is not being done. In Scotland, we are failing to move our | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
drug users off our existing national methadone programme into recovery. | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
We have more added deaths linked to methadone in parts of Scotland than | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
heroin. This was a programme which was advised it would enable drug | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
users to move up illegal drugs and into recovery. We are failing on a | :29:00. | :29:02. | |
massive scale without programme and if you repeat that situation here, | :29:03. | :29:09. | |
we will do exactly the same. We are not supporting services dedicated to | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
recovery and that's what we need to be doing. Some comments from people. | :29:13. | :29:17. | |
Lynne is a clinical psychologist has left the NHS due to the tragic and | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
funding issues. Drug addiction is a symptom of our society which we | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
ignore rather than face head-on. Don't judge the addict, look at the | :29:27. | :29:30. | |
facts for the alcohol is a significantly greater risk to the | :29:31. | :29:34. | |
public receives little public disdain. Andrew on Facebook, as an | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
ex-junkie, I'm pleased to see a step in the right direction. Addiction is | :29:40. | :29:42. | |
not understood and needs be addressed. Six rooms, are they | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
fixing or helping to continue the habit? Who pays? In terms of the | :29:49. | :29:54. | |
messages being sent out, desert it send out a message that it is | :29:55. | :29:57. | |
effectively the state saying it's OK to do this? -- six rooms. It's | :29:58. | :30:04. | |
illegal drugs, isn't it? I don't think it should be about messages. | :30:05. | :30:11. | |
-- fix rooms. Going back to what the evidence shows is from these drug | :30:12. | :30:15. | |
consumption rooms globally if we know for example that rates of | :30:16. | :30:18. | |
initiation, of introduction into heroin use are not linked to the | :30:19. | :30:22. | |
drug consumption rooms, so the European monetary centre of drug | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
abuse has specifically said we don't see the initiation of needle users. | :30:27. | :30:34. | |
Our message has to be, how do we want to take some of those | :30:35. | :30:38. | |
marginalised and excluded in society? I would want to give them | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
compassion and dignity and with interventions which save lives and | :30:43. | :30:45. | |
it's as simple as that. Thank you so much all of you for your time and | :30:46. | :30:47. | |
your thoughts on this. Thank you. We'll be talking to those who run | :30:48. | :31:00. | |
fix rooms in Amsterdam and Copenhagen. Also coming up, how the | :31:01. | :31:03. | |
Black Lives Matter movement is making its mark in Britain. And | :31:04. | :31:09. | |
can't work but can't claim. The government is planning to review the | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
work capability assessment that was branded fundamentally flawed by one | :31:14. | :31:18. | |
charity. We will speak to the Minister for disabled people to find | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
out how they planned to get more people back to work. If you've been | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
affected, do let us know. Keep your thoughts coming in on that as well. | :31:27. | :31:35. | |
Good morning. The Democratic leader in the US Senate said the head of | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
the FBI may have broken the law by revealing the bureau was | :31:41. | :31:43. | |
investigating e-mails possibly linked to Hillary Clinton. Harry | :31:44. | :31:46. | |
Reid accused FBI director James Comey of violating an act which bars | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
officials from influencing an election. News of the FBI enquiries | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
comes less than two weeks before the US election. The bureau has obtained | :31:57. | :32:00. | |
a warrant to search e-mails belonging to a top Clinton aide. | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
Thousands of people in Italy have spent the night sleeping in cars and | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
tense after the country's biggest earthquake in 40 years. The 6.6 | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
magnitude quake struck close to the region where nearly 300 people were | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
killed in August. This time no one appears to have died but around 20 | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
people were injured. Tremors were felt in Rome where the Metro was | :32:24. | :32:28. | |
shut down and as far away as Venice in the north. Barclays Bank says a | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
small number of customers in the UK have been charged twice for debit | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
card transactions made this morning. A spokesman confirmed some Democrat | :32:38. | :32:44. | |
payments had been duplicated -- debit card payments. The bank says | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
it is working to resolve the issue. It says no customers will lose money | :32:48. | :32:53. | |
as a result of the incident. Amber Rudd the Home Secretary is expected | :32:54. | :32:57. | |
to announce whether she will commission an enquiry into the clash | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
between police and miners at Orgreave in South Yorkshire. It was | :33:02. | :33:05. | |
the most violent confrontation of the 1984 miners strike. 124 officers | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
and miners were injured and 93 people arrested. Campaigners claim | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
police used excessive force and manufactured statements. Changes to | :33:16. | :33:19. | |
the way disabled people are assessed for out of work benefits have been | :33:20. | :33:23. | |
outlined by the government. The measures include a review of | :33:24. | :33:29. | |
statutory sick pay and GP fit notes to encourage people who receive | :33:30. | :33:32. | |
Employment and Support Allowance to make a phased return to work. | :33:33. | :33:35. | |
Disability charities have warned some people may not be able to work, | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
no matter how much support they receive. A plan to set up so-called | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
fix rooms to allow drug addicts to inject safely under supervision is | :33:46. | :33:48. | |
likely to get the go-ahead in Glasgow later today. Members of the | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
health board, the local authority and police are expected to agree to | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
the idea in principle. These clinics have been running successfully | :33:57. | :33:59. | |
across Europe for decades, but this will be the first time one has been | :34:00. | :34:09. | |
opened in the UK. It's a controversial idea that splits those | :34:10. | :34:11. | |
who work with addicts. This is a crisis and a crisis needs a | :34:12. | :34:13. | |
pragmatic evidence -based response. The reality is safer injecting | :34:14. | :34:20. | |
facilities are a way to reduce drug-related deaths. We should have | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
facilities dedicated to helping drug users recover, rather than proposing | :34:25. | :34:31. | |
a means whereby they can use drugs more easily. Members of the public | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
are being asked to create a record of ritual markings on buildings once | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
believed to ward off evil spirits. The marks were often carved near | :34:41. | :34:43. | |
entrances to buildings including the house where Shakespeare was born and | :34:44. | :34:48. | |
the Tao of London. The symbols were believed to offer protection when | :34:49. | :34:52. | |
belief in witchcraft and the supernatural was widespread. But | :34:53. | :34:55. | |
historic England face too little is known about them. | :34:56. | :35:06. | |
Lots of you are getting in touch on the idea of drug fix rooms. Glasgow | :35:07. | :35:13. | |
is likely to give the go-ahead to one later today. Graham has detected | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
"I have been advocating for fix rooms for the help of addicts. Many | :35:18. | :35:21. | |
crimes are committed by them. I believe these rooms would have a | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
great benefit to the public as well as the addicts and reduce the drug | :35:26. | :35:31. | |
dealers". Sharon says "I think the setting up of fix rooms is absurd, | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
this is condoning the use of drugs, how can this be allowed? Yet we | :35:35. | :35:41. | |
can't help those who are suffering and wanting to end their lives in a | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
dignified matter, it is beyond comprehension". | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
Let's get some sport with Olly Foster. | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
Lewis Hamilton has cut Nico Rosberg's lead in the Formula 1 | :35:55. | :36:00. | |
drivers championship to 19 points. There are only two races left to go. | :36:01. | :36:04. | |
Rosberg needs one more win to seal his first title. Just one point | :36:05. | :36:10. | |
separates the top four in the Premier League after Chelsea kept in | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
touch with the leaders. They beat Southampton 2-0. Manchester City, | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
Arsenal and Liverpool all level pegging on 23 points at the top. | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
Andy Murray's quest to become the world number one is still on track. | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
He beat Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to win the Vienna open yesterday, his | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
seventh title of the year. Next weekend he'll not Novak Djokovic of | :36:35. | :36:37. | |
the top of the rankings of the Serb doesn't meet the final in Paris. | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
Bradley Wiggins bowed out in front of a home crowd yesterday. He is due | :36:42. | :36:48. | |
to retire later this month, but he did hint he might change his mind. | :36:49. | :36:50. | |
I'll be back with an update later. "Never again will I let a system, | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
racist, unfair or otherwise, The more I'm told I can't, | :36:57. | :36:59. | |
the greater the reward The words of Nesta McGregor, | :37:00. | :37:02. | |
a Radio 1 Newsbeat journalist, who's made a very personal documentary | :37:03. | :37:07. | |
about the Black Lives It started as a hashtag in 2012, | :37:08. | :37:10. | |
after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot dead by neighbourhood | :37:11. | :37:22. | |
watchman George Zimmerman. Since then iconic moments of police | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
brutality captured on camera... Meant the movement | :37:28. | :37:37. | |
spread across America. But now, the Black Lives Matter | :37:38. | :37:40. | |
brand has gone global, with marches in Australia, | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
Canada and around the UK. I'm Nesta McGregor, I'm | :37:44. | :37:49. | |
a journalist at BBC Radio 1 I was born in Jamaica, | :37:50. | :37:56. | |
but by family moved I'm looking to find out what's | :37:57. | :37:59. | |
causing a rise in black They look at her and think, | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
she's a black little And at what it feels like to grow up | :38:05. | :38:10. | |
black and British in 2016. So I guess one of the primary | :38:11. | :38:19. | |
reasons I wanted to make this documentary was to highlight | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
what it's like being black Even at work, it happens | :38:23. | :38:25. | |
on a daily basis. I'll have an e-mail conversation | :38:26. | :38:33. | |
or a phone conversation with someone, set up an interview, | :38:34. | :38:35. | |
go to the premises to meet them, they'll come downstairs | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
to reception, look around, look around, go back upstairs | :38:40. | :38:41. | |
and call and say "are you sure There's a moment when you hear | :38:42. | :38:43. | |
like almost in their head, oh, you're the black guy | :38:44. | :38:56. | |
that was at reception. It's only when I'm saying this now, | :38:57. | :38:58. | |
I realise, but it saddens me. Because it's the way | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
things have always been. I know lots of people listening | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
to this might feel the same. There's got to be a reason why now, | :39:07. | :39:09. | |
people want to take a stand and show the rest of the world | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
how they are feeling. I'm not really interested in hearing | :39:14. | :39:21. | |
the same stats about black Four times more likely to be | :39:22. | :39:24. | |
stopped and searched, What I really want to do is meet | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
some of the people who come out to protest and find | :39:29. | :39:41. | |
out why they are here. These protesters obviously | :39:42. | :39:43. | |
are trying to make their point, is causing as much | :39:44. | :39:46. | |
disruption as possible. Just in front of me, | :39:47. | :39:47. | |
traffic is at an It's pretty much trouble | :39:48. | :39:50. | |
free, but not everyone We come across a couple who should | :39:51. | :40:05. | |
have been on holiday but missed their flight | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
because of a similar demonstration This is important, something | :40:10. | :40:11. | |
is happening here, we want Their family, everyone's | :40:12. | :40:17. | |
got to mourn them. If you lot supported us before, | :40:18. | :40:33. | |
we wouldn't have to do this. Eventually by luck we come | :40:34. | :40:41. | |
across one of the organisers. It was to create as much, you know, | :40:42. | :40:52. | |
awareness about Black Lives Matter. To the people that are here with us | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
today and the people who didn't know the event was happening. I feel like | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
people who are seeing what we are doing isn't going to change | :41:01. | :41:03. | |
anything. They are trying to silence us and we will not be silenced. As | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
the march goes on we come across this guy. What we've got is a | :41:08. | :41:14. | |
gentleman being led away by police who during the march came out of his | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
shop and started shouting some abuse, telling people to go back | :41:20. | :41:26. | |
home and how they don't belong here. They can't keep coming here, they | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
can't keep coming here. I heard this gentleman say that these people need | :41:32. | :41:40. | |
to go back home. I've got 4/2 caste children. I can't even say half | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
caste no more. I've got to say mixed race. There's a million immigrants | :41:45. | :41:51. | |
coming. These people are marching for equality. If they don't feel | :41:52. | :41:55. | |
equal in society what do you want them to do? After the March I went | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
to meet six or seven friends for a drink and they were all white. For | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
the first time I was looking at them thinking, what do they really think | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
of me and are they being honest? That was a little bit weird. After | :42:10. | :42:15. | |
speaking to so many people at the march, and now that I'm back at | :42:16. | :42:21. | |
home... This is genuine, it almost made me feel less black being at the | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
march, or that I was black enough. Because maybe if I hadn't been | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
working I wouldn't have been there, or I'm certainly not as up for | :42:32. | :42:37. | |
marching. Obviously I'm for equal rights but I don't think I would | :42:38. | :42:44. | |
have gone and onto a March. A few days later I've arranged a catch up | :42:45. | :42:57. | |
with Craze 24. He tells me he's been pulled over countless times by | :42:58. | :43:01. | |
police because of the way he looks. He was the one defending the protest | :43:02. | :43:04. | |
to the couple who missed their holiday but he's also using his | :43:05. | :43:06. | |
music to try and change things. # Are you ready for Black Lives | :43:07. | :43:27. | |
Matter # Instead of hating | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
# Focus on the evidence we recorded on our phones # | :43:34. | :43:42. | |
It's a lot cooler in here than at the weekend, why were you at the | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
march? I believe in the issues they were marching for. It's come to a | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
point when we have to start talking and addressing the issues before | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
they go too far. There were some people who came there because a | :43:56. | :43:58. | |
previous march disrupted their holiday. What did you get out of | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
that conversation if anything? I got that they were upset because they | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
was inconvenienced. I felt they were in light and briefly by us talking | :44:08. | :44:16. | |
so I felt positive that I potentially made them see it from a | :44:17. | :44:19. | |
different perspective. We are all humans and it's not about Black | :44:20. | :44:24. | |
Lives Matter more than white lives, it's about realising we are all | :44:25. | :44:29. | |
human. We need to come together and deal with it. Craze 24 has been | :44:30. | :44:37. | |
pulled over more times than he thinks he should be. And it's that | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
gut feeling of inequality or injustice that is united black | :44:42. | :44:44. | |
people. For everyone the fight is different. Why don't I see more | :44:45. | :44:50. | |
people like myself on TV? Why isn't there more black people in top jobs? | :44:51. | :44:57. | |
Why do I get looked at as if I'm a drug dealer? Why is it when people | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
meet me they automatically think I'm black? I'm not, I'm mixed race. Why | :45:02. | :45:07. | |
do people take gangsta Rap so literally, half of the time it's not | :45:08. | :45:12. | |
even what you think it is. Why don't we have more black role models in | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
life? Why is it because I drive a nice car I get pulled over four | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
times in one year. I question why we still don't have a black Prime | :45:22. | :45:26. | |
Minister. In my school everyone looks at you differently, like, | :45:27. | :45:30. | |
she's the only black person. I'm not sure why people assume I like | :45:31. | :45:36. | |
hip-hop or I'm good at basketball. I think I'm the same as everybody | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
else. There's a lot of young black men who lack aspiration in life. The | :45:42. | :45:44. | |
reason they do this because they've not got a role model to help and | :45:45. | :45:49. | |
support them. To try and understand why now, more than ever before | :45:50. | :45:53. | |
there's so much momentum around the movement, I've come to meet Bea. | :45:54. | :46:02. | |
Tutor be to come to their exhibition which is about highlighting the | :46:03. | :46:08. | |
voices of black women. Each layer is to show that black women are made | :46:09. | :46:12. | |
from multiple different layers. She's been going to Black Lives | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
Matter events for several years. Talk to me, what is your life like | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
in Britain today? Life in Britain 2016 as a black British woman is | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
very interesting. Every single day I'm talking about diversity on | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
social media and that's really important for me. The reason I | :46:31. | :46:34. | |
mention that in 2016, about social media, is because ten years ago | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
there wasn't this platform. People are saying these marches did nothing | :46:41. | :46:43. | |
but make people lose support for a movement they perhaps believed in | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
that order did was cause disruption. For me, the impact and the press it | :46:49. | :46:54. | |
had, now people know what Black Lives Matter is. People thought it | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
was just an American issue but when it happened, we were able to enter | :46:59. | :47:04. | |
our conversation into how it is important in the UK. The UK has a | :47:05. | :47:09. | |
different fight. The global face of blackness is American so when we | :47:10. | :47:13. | |
talk about anything today with black people, we instantly think of | :47:14. | :47:19. | |
America. We even think of Africa. We want to show our brothers and | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
sisters in America we are standing with them. This country is hands up, | :47:23. | :47:29. | |
don't handcuff me, I'm not the suspect you thought robbed that car. | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
My child's life is in jeopardy, if she went to America. She is a black | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
girl growing up in this country. Her life is also in jeopardy because | :47:40. | :47:42. | |
people don't view her the same as a white little girl. They look at her | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
and think is a black little girl and she could be bad. Three different | :47:47. | :47:53. | |
experiences of life. The sort of problems they spoke to me about | :47:54. | :47:58. | |
might not seem as dramatic as those in America, but don't forget this is | :47:59. | :48:01. | |
on top of the fact that black people are more likely to live in poverty. | :48:02. | :48:08. | |
They are underrepresented in jobs like police chiefs, judges and MPs. | :48:09. | :48:13. | |
And a black graduate earns 23% less than a white classmate with the same | :48:14. | :48:14. | |
degree. As filming comes to an end, I'm back | :48:15. | :48:34. | |
where I started. We are back in south-east London. This is the | :48:35. | :48:37. | |
estate I grew up on. Some of the best memories of my life were made | :48:38. | :48:43. | |
here. This is where my attitude towards life in general, | :48:44. | :48:47. | |
friendships, relationships, was definitely formed on this estate. I | :48:48. | :48:52. | |
lived there for what, maybe 15 years? I met this man. I've known | :48:53. | :48:59. | |
him for 20 years in general. Member when you could jump over this | :49:00. | :49:06. | |
easily? -- remember? Did you feel the system was against it and it | :49:07. | :49:10. | |
wasn't going to change so you had to give yourself the skills? The poor | :49:11. | :49:16. | |
working class, it's harder. White, black, Indian, Chinese, it's harder. | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
Than if I came from the middle class. It's a mindset. In the | :49:21. | :49:28. | |
school, I'm saying, how long are you going to live for? Until you are 80. | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
So you want to be a gangster? Between the age of 16-20, you will | :49:34. | :49:37. | |
go to jail, get in trouble numerous amounts of times and that will shape | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
your life for the other 60 years. Look at the big picture now. I need | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
this and that. That's what my brother and uncle does. But you | :49:47. | :49:53. | |
don't need to do that. I can leave here without saying hello to someone | :49:54. | :49:58. | |
special. We are just off to see my grandmother who lives on this | :49:59. | :50:09. | |
estate. Hopefully she is here. It's almost like you knew I was coming. | :50:10. | :50:17. | |
How are you doing, all right? When I started making this film, it was to | :50:18. | :50:21. | |
answer a simple question, why are black people in the UK marching? The | :50:22. | :50:26. | |
answer is simple. It is that feeling, all of black people I've | :50:27. | :50:30. | |
spoken to can relate to it, the feeling you get when you don't feel | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
equal. I will see you later, yeah? Bye-bye. I promise I will come | :50:37. | :50:43. | |
tomorrow. From the time I arrived in the UK to my treatment now, nothing | :50:44. | :50:47. | |
has changed. The only difference is, with the power of the Black Lives | :50:48. | :50:52. | |
Matter movement, people are treating it like a brand, something to jump | :50:53. | :50:57. | |
on. I describe it like a bus heading towards a journey and at the moment, | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
the bus is travelling as fast as it's ever going to travel so why not | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
jump on to get to your destination? For me, the journey I have been on | :51:06. | :51:11. | |
is very real because at the March in Southwark, I wanted held hands with | :51:12. | :51:14. | |
the other black people and take a stand about injustice. I don't want | :51:15. | :51:18. | |
to play down those struggles because they are real and what black people | :51:19. | :51:23. | |
face every day, but my opinion has definitely changed throughout making | :51:24. | :51:27. | |
this film. Because of the thing for me is, you want to escape the cycle | :51:28. | :51:33. | |
and we don't want this for our children or our children's children. | :51:34. | :51:37. | |
Should we, as black people, stop waiting for a saviour, other people | :51:38. | :51:42. | |
to help us? Stop waiting for the system to help us and take more | :51:43. | :51:47. | |
responsibility? If we do that, the likes of racism should not affect | :51:48. | :51:48. | |
us. And you can watch the full Radio 1 | :51:49. | :51:51. | |
Newsbeat documentary That Black British Feeling | :51:52. | :51:53. | |
on the BBC iPlayer now. Some breaking news to bring you - | :51:54. | :51:56. | |
Raheem Kassam, a former aide to Nigel Farage, | :51:57. | :51:58. | |
has dropped out of the race saying "the path to victory | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
is too narrow". He says the top of the party is | :52:02. | :52:15. | |
treating this like a Coronation. He's said the disgraceful treatment | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
by the media and he has also spoken about problems around fundraising, | :52:21. | :52:24. | |
so he has dropped out of the race to become Ukip leader as a result of | :52:25. | :52:31. | |
that. He had described himself as the most like Nigel Farage as a | :52:32. | :52:34. | |
candidate. Our political guru | :52:35. | :52:35. | |
Norman Smith is here. Herself proclaimed Nigel Farage | :52:36. | :52:44. | |
candidate is out. Tell us why. It is bizarre, becoming like the political | :52:45. | :52:50. | |
equivalent of wacky races of people piling off the track and crashing | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
all over the place. Raheem Kassam is now the third contender to come a | :52:55. | :53:00. | |
cropper. He doesn't directly say why he is not continuing. The give some | :53:01. | :53:04. | |
sort of hints, suggesting he was not happy with the integrity of the | :53:05. | :53:08. | |
election process. That raises questions about whether he thought | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
it was entirely fair, other candidates would be given a leg up | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
somehow. He's also not happy about the media coverage, complaining | :53:19. | :53:24. | |
about journalists doorstepping his parents and he seems to have had an | :53:25. | :53:27. | |
issue with raising sufficient funds, but we now have in the space of a | :53:28. | :53:34. | |
month, Diane James, who was actually elected leader, deciding after a | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
couple of weeks, no, she doesn't want to carry on, suggesting all | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
sorts of shenanigans going on in the party's National Executive Committee | :53:44. | :53:45. | |
to stop carrying out the changes she wanted. Then we had fisticuffs | :53:46. | :53:51. | |
adorned with Stephen Wolf in the European Parliament, when he seemed | :53:52. | :53:55. | |
to come to blows with another Ukip person. He warned about the party | :53:56. | :54:01. | |
being in a death spiral and announced he is quitting the party. | :54:02. | :54:07. | |
Now Raheem Kassam, Nigel Farage's person, his former chief of staff, | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
he pitched himself as the Nigel Farage candidate. Now he has | :54:12. | :54:15. | |
announced he is going and it just becomes more and more extraordinary. | :54:16. | :54:20. | |
He said before he has been targeted by the outrage Brigade, a lot of | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
criticism for various comments he put out on social media, four letter | :54:27. | :54:34. | |
word laden tweets. Comments about the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon. How | :54:35. | :54:38. | |
much controversy has he attracted? A bit like Nigel Farage, he crosses | :54:39. | :54:43. | |
the street to look for a bit of controversy. He is someone who is | :54:44. | :54:46. | |
not shy about expressing his opinions, let put it that way. Some | :54:47. | :54:50. | |
of the Sunday papers, he was describing one of his competitors, | :54:51. | :54:58. | |
Suzanne Evans, as the biggest liar ever. He does not hold back in | :54:59. | :55:02. | |
expressing himself. I don't think it's that sort of controversy which | :55:03. | :55:05. | |
has forced him to stand down, because he's never been shy about | :55:06. | :55:08. | |
it. He's not a shrinking violet in that sense. I think the truth | :55:09. | :55:15. | |
probably lies in that rather they'll suggestion about the integrity of | :55:16. | :55:19. | |
the process. We're not quite clear what he's talking about there, but | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
he seems to be suggesting that somehow the contest was rigged. Now, | :55:24. | :55:27. | |
we don't know the details, but that's what I take from his | :55:28. | :55:30. | |
suggestion that there was a problem with the integrity of the election | :55:31. | :55:35. | |
process. So who is the favourite going to be now? Paul Nuttall, who | :55:36. | :55:41. | |
used to be the number two at Ukip, in the sense that he's a different | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
kettle of fish to Nigel Farage, but the sort of person who has presented | :55:46. | :55:49. | |
as someone who can appeal to traditional Labour voters in the | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
north of England, where many people believe Ukip's future might be in | :55:55. | :55:59. | |
the post-Brexit world. The other big name is Suzanne Evans. She's found | :56:00. | :56:04. | |
herself at loggerheads with Nigel Farage, looked to move the party in | :56:05. | :56:11. | |
a less confrontational way. She has criticised Nigel Farage for budding | :56:12. | :56:14. | |
up to Donald Trump, that sort of thing, so she has a much more media | :56:15. | :56:19. | |
savvy approach about trying to reposition Ukip. Those will be the | :56:20. | :56:25. | |
two main contenders. The last two still standing. Norman, thank you | :56:26. | :56:27. | |
very much. Are schools letting | :56:28. | :56:29. | |
down adopted children? We speak to a father of two adopted | :56:30. | :56:30. | |
children and an organisation trying to get teachers | :56:31. | :56:33. | |
trained to cope better. Kerry says, "We adopted a girl | :56:34. | :56:36. | |
when she was 18 months old. She struggled when she started | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
school but they helped her extremely well considering they'd | :56:40. | :56:42. | |
only had a couple of Now she's a little high flyer, | :56:43. | :56:44. | |
thanks to the school's early We will be talking about it a little | :56:45. | :57:04. | |
bit later. Time now for a look at the weather. How are things looking? | :57:05. | :57:09. | |
A very murky start. This was the scene at Tower Bridge in the fog in | :57:10. | :57:22. | |
London. We had some poor visibility, below 100 metres across the | :57:23. | :57:25. | |
Midlands, towards eastern areas of Wales. The worst visibility, the fog | :57:26. | :57:31. | |
lifted a low cloud, and the last of it dispersing into the early | :57:32. | :57:35. | |
afternoon to leave some sunshine. A warm day for the time of year with | :57:36. | :57:40. | |
highs between 14-18. A weather front across the North of Scotland. It | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
won't move very far during today but overnight tonight it will push | :57:45. | :57:48. | |
southwards ringing damp weather across Northern Ireland, and the | :57:49. | :57:50. | |
rain moving into northern England by the end of the night. Again we are | :57:51. | :57:55. | |
likely to see some further dense patches of mist and fog forming | :57:56. | :58:00. | |
across England and Wales. Cold in Scotland, touches of frost in rural | :58:01. | :58:03. | |
parts to end the night. That is a sign of things to come because our | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
weather is going to get much colder over the next few days. We have to | :58:08. | :58:11. | |
look into the Arctic to find the answer because that is where the | :58:12. | :58:14. | |
wind is going to be coming from over the next few days, ringing colder | :58:15. | :58:21. | |
air. In London today, 18 degrees, by Wednesday, 11. Seven Celsius drop in | :58:22. | :58:27. | |
temperatures on the way over the next few days. That is your weather. | :58:28. | :58:35. | |
Hello, just before the 10am on Monday. Welcome to the programme. | :58:36. | :58:40. | |
Our top story today, could Hillary Clinton lose the election because of | :58:41. | :58:45. | |
the FBI's e-mail investigation? Polls are tightening the just over a | :58:46. | :58:48. | |
week to go leading Democrats to say the head of the FBI may have broken | :58:49. | :58:50. | |
the law. The FBI is reopening | :58:51. | :58:52. | |
the investigation into the criminal and illegal conduct of Hillary | :58:53. | :58:55. | |
Clinton. Voters deserve to get | :58:56. | :58:58. | |
full and complete facts. And so we called an director | :58:59. | :59:07. | |
James Comey to explain everything right away, | :59:08. | :59:09. | |
put it all out on the table. Also on the programme - | :59:10. | :59:15. | |
are drug fix rooms - where addicts can inject heroin | :59:16. | :59:17. | |
safely - a good idea? Glasgow's likely to give | :59:18. | :59:19. | |
the go-ahead to one later today. This is a crisis and a crisis needs | :59:20. | :59:32. | |
a pragmatic evidence -based response. The reality is safer | :59:33. | :59:38. | |
injecting facilities are a way to reduce drug-related deaths, overdose | :59:39. | :59:42. | |
fatalities. That story has got a lot of you getting in touch. An | :59:43. | :59:48. | |
anonymous watcher says "I'm a heroin addict, these shooting galleries are | :59:49. | :59:51. | |
mainly used by homeless street addicts. The first thing these | :59:52. | :59:56. | |
people need is help with housing and then help getting clean." We'll be | :59:57. | :00:00. | |
speaking with people who run fix rooms in Amsterdam and Copenhagen | :00:01. | :00:02. | |
before 11am. Dealing with the death | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
of a child is tragic enough, but having to get into debt in order | :00:07. | :00:08. | |
to bury them brings We'll be talking to one MP who had | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
to take out a loan just so she could afford to bury her | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
eight-year-old son - she is now campaigning | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
to end council charges We will speak to her live this | :00:19. | :00:20. | |
morning. Here's the BBC Newsroom | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
with a summary of today's news. Raheem Kassam former aide to Nigel | :00:27. | :00:39. | |
Farage has dropped out of the race to become Ukip leader. He said his | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
path to victory is too narrow and that the top of the party is | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
treating the contest as a coronation. He's given his backing | :00:48. | :00:55. | |
to London assembly member Peter Whittle. The race was triggered when | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
Diane James stood down days after her election as leader. | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
The Democratic leader in the US Senate says the head of the FBI may | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
have broken the law by revealing the bureau was investigating emails | :01:07. | :01:08. | |
Harry Reid accused FBI director James Comey of violating an act | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
which bars officials from influencing an election. | :01:15. | :01:16. | |
News of the FBI inquiry comes less than two weeks before | :01:17. | :01:19. | |
The bureau has meanwhile obtained a warrant to search a cache | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
of emails belonging to a top Clinton aide. | :01:23. | :01:29. | |
Barclays bank says "a small number of customers" in the UK have been | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
charged twice for debit card transactions made this morning. | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
A spokesman confirmed that some debit card payments have been | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
The bank says it became aware of the problem earlier today | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
It also says that no customers will lose money | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
Thousands of people in Italy have spent the night sleeping in cars | :01:46. | :01:53. | |
and tents after the country's biggest earthquake in 40 years. | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
The 6.6-magnitude quake struck close to the region where nearly 300 | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
people were killed by another quake in August. | :01:59. | :01:59. | |
This time no-one appears to have died, but around 20 | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
Tremors were felt in the capital Rome, where the Metro | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
system was shut down, and as far away as | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, is expected to announce today | :02:10. | :02:16. | |
whether she'll commission an inquiry into the clash between police | :02:17. | :02:18. | |
and miners at Orgreave in South Yorkshire. | :02:19. | :02:20. | |
It was the most violent confrontation of the | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
More than 120 officers and miners were injured, | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
Campaigners claim police used excessive force | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30am. | :02:32. | :02:45. | |
A comment to bring new on our Black Lives Matter report you may have | :02:46. | :02:54. | |
seen a few moments ago. A tweet, "Amazing documentary, I was born in | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
Sri Lanka and I also feel out of place in the UK. I face racism | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
nearly all my life". You can watch a documentary on iPlayer. | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE and if you text, you will be charged | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
Lewis Hamilton certainly looks like he's back in the winning groove in | :03:13. | :03:21. | |
Formula 1, but he says he might have left it too late. He took the | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
chequered flag at the Mexican Grand Prix to cut Nico Rosberg's lead in | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
the drivers championship to just 19 points. He's won back-to-back races | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
now, but there are only two races left to go this season and Rosberg | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
who finished second in Mexico needs just one more win to seal his first | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
title. Daniel Ricardo was eventually promoted to third. Sebastian Vettel | :03:43. | :03:48. | |
was demoted as was Max Verstappen before him. After ten matches one | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
point separates the top four teams in the Premier League. Manchester | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
City, Arsenal and Liverpool lead the way on 23 points, but Chelsea are | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
the form side at the moment. They made it four wins in a row with a | :04:04. | :04:10. | |
2-0 victory at Southampton. Eden Hazzard scored their first, Diego | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
Costa with the second at St Mary 's. That sees them storm to fourth in | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
the table. I'm very happy. When you see this type of game and you see | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
this commitment of all your players, you must be satisfied. When you see | :04:26. | :04:34. | |
your players that work so hard to win, show you the will to win, it's | :04:35. | :04:43. | |
fantastic for a coach. Four in a row for Chelsea. Andy Murray has won his | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
third title in a row and seventh of an incredible season. This time next | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
week he could be world number one for the first time. He beat | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to take the Vienna open. The tour now moves on | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
to Paris. If Andy Murray wins that title and Novak Djokovic fails to | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
reach the final in Paris the Serb will drop off the top of the | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
rankings. Sir Bradley Wiggins bowed out in front of his home crowd | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
yesterday with a second-place finish at the London six-day event. Wiggins | :05:13. | :05:20. | |
and Mark Cavendish were racing together. They were beaten in the | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
final race by a Belgian pair. He is due to retire in November. But he | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
did hint that he might change his mind. He's enjoyed himself so much | :05:32. | :05:37. | |
in London, he says. The headlines in half an hour. 80% of people in the | :05:38. | :05:45. | |
UK are in work but if you are disabled that figure drops to 50%. | :05:46. | :05:52. | |
For some people their illness or disability means they'll never be | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
able to work but others could with the right support. The problem is | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
how you decide who falls into which category. The current work | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
capability assessment has been branded fundamentally flawed and | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
today the government is announcing a consultation on it. We can speak to | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
the Minister for disabled people and a two people who have been affected | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
by the work capability assessment. One has a number of conditions which | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
make it difficult for him to walk. He's been told twice he is fit to | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
work before that decision was overturned. And the guest who has | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
Parkinson's and has successfully appealed against a decision she was | :06:33. | :06:38. | |
fit to work. Tell us about the assessment you had because it was | :06:39. | :06:41. | |
subsequently overturned but you were told you were fit to work, how did | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
you feel going through that process? Good morning. The process was very, | :06:46. | :06:58. | |
very painful and degrading. If you suffer from arthritis, rheumatoid | :06:59. | :07:06. | |
and osteo, some days you could walk, some days you cannot. And you cannot | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
pick and choose. The day I went there I was feeling rather good. As | :07:11. | :07:19. | |
a result of it, the assessor ignored all the medical results, all the | :07:20. | :07:27. | |
medical evidence and treatments and investigation, and he said I was fit | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
to work and to go back to work. And that was in February this year. | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
Would you have wanted to go back to work? I would love to go to work. I | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
would love to be able to come back and be who I was before. For 50 | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
years I worked and I paid my national insurance and helped people | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
and they helped me. But now, when I come to the point that this is what | :07:54. | :07:59. | |
I've paid for, my national insurance and taxes to look after me when it | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
comes to this sort of situation, and they are just pushing you and | :08:05. | :08:13. | |
treating you like a criminal. You have to continuously prove that you | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
are looking for a job while you are attending the hospital and | :08:19. | :08:20. | |
treatment. Psychologically, it really affects people and I had a | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
nervous breakdown as a result of that. Very, very bad, and I'm very | :08:27. | :08:34. | |
lucky I've got a family who kind of give me encouragement to carry on | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
and fight. Diane, what has happened with you? You are diagnosed with | :08:40. | :08:42. | |
Parkinson's four years ago and were found to be fit to work. When I was | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
first put on ESA I was put in a support group and I moved down to | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
Wales. For some reason might ESA stopped. I had to reapply, because | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
they said I'd asked them to finish paying me. I was put in the | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
work-related activity group and I was absolutely worried sick. I was | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
dreading every envelope coming through the door, waiting for this | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
work capability assessment. I was being asked for sick notes from my | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
doctor. I'd taken ill-health retirement so I had no reason to | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
need a sick note. I was constantly being asked and told I wouldn't get | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
any money unless I produced them, and it just went on and on. I was | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
getting myself in such a state my symptoms were worsening. I was | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
getting so stressed about the situation. My local support worker | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
was writing letters and making phone calls on my behalf. It was an | :09:50. | :09:59. | |
endless battle. Suddenly I got a letter saying I was being reassessed | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
and I was back in the support group. I don't know why I was put through | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
so much trauma. The fact that I would love to work, I had to give up | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
work because I'm not capable. Some days I can't even get out of bed. | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
When your condition is so unpredictable, how can you hold down | :10:19. | :10:25. | |
a job? It's a degenerative condition and the word degenerative itself | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
means to become functionally useless. To be told you might get | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
better and be able to go back to work is insulting beyond belief. | :10:35. | :10:40. | |
Penny, what do you think when you hear Bahram and Diane talking about | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
what they've experienced? I think your guests outlined some of the | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
flaws with the existing process and in particular the work capability | :10:50. | :10:52. | |
assessment. We are already doing some things to address some of the | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
points that they have raised. We are dramatically reducing the number of | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
people having to go to appeal to get the right decision by ensuring that | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
health care information submitted earlier in the process. We've | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
already announced we're going to stop retests and re-examination of | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
people who have degenerative conditions. There's no point in | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
doing that, it's stressful for them and additional bureaucracy. But | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
there are further things that we want to do. That's why we are | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
publishing the green paper today which will consult more on a raft of | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
issues for employers, for allsorts of other things, health trials. It | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
will also look at the work capability assessment and ask more | :11:36. | :11:42. | |
probing questions. The government wants to reduce the disability | :11:43. | :11:50. | |
employment gap. There is a marked difference with non-disabled people | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
biking. When there is a target like that does that mean there will | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
always be a drive that will put people through the sort of | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
situations we are hearing? Does sometimes common sense go out the | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
window when there is a policy view driving what happens? This green | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
paper is about putting that common sense back in place. We have been | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
treating people as though they are part of a sausage factory. The work | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
capability assessment has been, as well as the process being far from | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
ideal as your other guests have outlined, it puts people in one of | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
two camps. Can work, can't work. Clearly that's not remotely helpful. | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
Ironically the people who need the most support don't have access to | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
it. What we want to do is look at that fundamental aspect of the | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
assessment process. We want to make the process better by having all the | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
bits of government joined up better, so people aren't having to | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
continually fill out forms or submit the same bit of evidence several | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
times over. We also want to ensure that the end of that process, we're | :12:56. | :13:04. | |
a position to be giving the support that that person needs. Whether they | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
are going to be in work full time, whether they just want to be | :13:09. | :13:10. | |
meaningful activity or whether they are unable to work. At what point | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
does an assessment get made that actually the situation is as it is? | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
If that were to be the case, it is as it is, we can't squeeze any more, | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
actually people do want to work but for whatever reason they aren't able | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
to because of what is required by employers or the fact their | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
situation isn't going to get any better, and just leave it at that. | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
And if that requires extra financial resources, it will be found. People | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
who can't work or who need income support will always get that. What | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
we are focused on today is those people that do want to work, that | :13:48. | :13:53. | |
have tremendous talents and skills to offer. Disabled people are the | :13:54. | :13:56. | |
most entrepreneurial people on the planet. A quarter of our new | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
employment allowance went to disabled people over the last year. | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
What we are talking about is enabling people to achieve their | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
ambitions and enabling employers to benefit from that. That's what we | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
haven't been doing as well as we should do date, and that's what | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
we're looking to address in the green paper today. Bahram you were | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
shaking your head, why is that? Yes, yes. This is, forgive me, it's a bit | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
of a nonsense what has happened in the past. I welcome a change for the | :14:32. | :14:37. | |
future. But I'm going to ask one question from Penny. Why on earth | :14:38. | :14:53. | |
the government reduces the people on disability or work-related activity | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
by ?30 a week? There were 309 MPs who actually signed this to take | :15:00. | :15:07. | |
place. They reduced the money that most people needed to live on, while | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
they gave themselves a pay rise. It just doesn't make sense. | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
To know how long it will take for people to ring the Department for | :15:19. | :15:26. | |
Work and Pensions? I could show you my telephone. 35 minutes just | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
waiting for someone just to answer. If I tell you that the result I come | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
out with, even the assessor doesn't have my file, doesn't know where I | :15:37. | :15:44. | |
am, asks me to apply again. In response to those two points, first | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
of all, on the so-called RAG group, that is not going to apply to people | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
who are currently receiving benefits, so there will be no cash | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
and losers in this. That group, we also announcing today, will achieve | :15:59. | :16:05. | |
some additional support. 13 new measures put together by patient | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
support groups, employers themselves, one example being access | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
to occupational health services. And on the last point, about how all of | :16:13. | :16:18. | |
this is delivered, of course, even if we get the policy absolutely | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
right and I hope we will get a better result through this | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
consultation about the assessment process, much of this is about | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
delivery. It's about the experience of an individual who quite often may | :16:31. | :16:33. | |
have had some traumatic event in their life, may have lost work | :16:34. | :16:39. | |
because of the situations and obstacles they've had to overcome, | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
those people we need to ensure that we are supporting them throughout | :16:46. | :16:48. | |
the whole process and that means how we deliver that, how people can | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
access our services, just a few weeks ago for example, we put for | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
the first time our access to work scheme, which is a really popular | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
scheme, online for the first time. The average amount of time to access | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
that is 20 minutes now, so we're looking at improving all of these | :17:06. | :17:07. | |
things but we need to do more fundamental things to really deliver | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
the tailored support people need and that's why we have published this | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
paper today. I encourage everyone, local groups, we produced a | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
consultation pack to enable them to get involved. We need your input, | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
advice, to make this work. Thank you very much. I know you have got to | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
go, so we will let you go, thank you. I wanted, Diane, to ask you, if | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
you are reassured by what you heard from penny because she said people | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
with degenerative illnesses like you will not keep being reassessed in | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
the future. That is good news but I mean, at the time, I went for about | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
three or four months with no money at all. They stopped my money | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
because I didn't provide thick notes. My GP can understand why I | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
needed them because I had taken retirement. It's all right saying | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
they are going to be reassuring to people with degenerative conditions, | :18:07. | :18:09. | |
but if people still being put through this situation, they | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
shouldn't have to go through it. It's an unnecessary stress. An | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
unnecessary worry, and when you are dreading the postman coming down the | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
path because a brown envelope will come through your door asking for | :18:23. | :18:30. | |
another thick note, a hospital appointment, and assessment, it is | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
very, very stressful. They need to consider the individuals and how | :18:37. | :18:39. | |
much stress it puts on them and their families, as well. I mean, I | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
was lucky because I had a fantastic support worker who did a lot of my | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
phone calls and letters for me and I think, without her, I don't know how | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
would got through it. Thank you very much both of you. I want to bring in | :18:54. | :18:58. | |
some comments. "I Was told by the DWP I am fit for work because I | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
attended doctors appointments." I have been signed off by Mike GP by | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
March so why is his word not good enough to say I am not fit for work | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
-- my GP. Thank you for all of your comments. Do keep them coming in. | :19:14. | :19:15. | |
Next, will this man - former reality TV star | :19:16. | :19:17. | |
and billionaire Donald Trump, or this woman - former First Lady | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - | :19:22. | :19:23. | |
There's a week and a day till the American nation | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
goes to the polls - and Hillary Clinton's | :19:29. | :19:30. | |
The BBC's poll of polls shows Donald Trump at 46% | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
and Hillary Clinton at 49% - as you can see several days ago | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
But her campaign's been rocked by another FBI investigation | :19:42. | :19:49. | |
The most senior Democrat in the US Senate, Harry Reid, | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
has suggested that the head of the FBI may have broken the law | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
by releasing details of a new investigation | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
into her emails - so close to the presidential election. | :20:04. | :20:05. | |
Here's how both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have responded. | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
So we don't know the facts, which is why we are calling | :20:10. | :20:12. | |
on the FBI to release all the information that it has. | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
Even Director Comey noted that this new information | :20:20. | :20:22. | |
may not be significant, so let's get it out. | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
The investigation is the biggest political scandal since Watergate, | :20:27. | :20:34. | |
and it's everybody's hope that justice, at last, can be delivered. | :20:35. | :20:43. | |
We can speak now to Jan Halper-Hayes from Republicans overseas - | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
She wants a Trump victory on November the 8th - | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
and we also have Ebs Burnough, he's a former White House Social | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
Secretary to President Obama and senior political director | :20:55. | :20:56. | |
He's supporting Hillary Clinton in the elections. | :20:57. | :21:05. | |
What you think the impact of could be? It is long on innuendo, short on | :21:06. | :21:13. | |
facts, and virtually absent of any substance. This letter the director | :21:14. | :21:21. | |
sent to Congress has no... It's a fishing expedition and the sad thing | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
is the director has input the FBI into the middle of a presidential | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
election. When something comes to light which might be pertinent to | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
something ring investigated, what else could he have done? The | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
fundamental issue is there's no smoking gun what this letter says | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
is, we are going to look at e-mail that may or may not be pertinent. | :21:45. | :21:52. | |
What's wrong with that? By doing it right in the middle of a | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
presidential election, that should be done with more substance to bear. | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
But letter should have gone to Congress, a subpoena could be issued | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
prior to the Congress, but there should be more detail into what | :22:05. | :22:07. | |
exactly this is, especially realising the massive impact this | :22:08. | :22:10. | |
would have 11 days before a presidential election. Did he break | :22:11. | :22:18. | |
the law by inserting the FBI into a presidential campaign? What do you | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
think? I think the polls right now don't fully tell us the impact of | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
this. Chicago Tribune has asked her to stand down. Some of her strongest | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
advocates have asked her to stand down and have said they are not | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
supporting her any more. When you say the polls on showing the full | :22:40. | :22:46. | |
effect, the poll of polls shows a narrowing, 49-46. Are you saying | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
it's even tighter than that? I think we'll look at the polls in a couple | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
of days and it will get tighter. There have been a couple of things | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
to have changed the polls and impacted Hillary Clinton. One is | :22:58. | :23:04. | |
Obama care, and that is causing a major uproar in the States because | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
of the increase in premiums. A friend of mine in Arizona, family of | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
three years to pay $1000 a month for his insurers but now it's over 2000. | :23:15. | :23:20. | |
Each family member has to pay 5000 in their deductibles before they | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
even get any money back. There is a pay for play which has come out. The | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
WikiLeaks members from her campaign manager, her chairman,. These are | :23:30. | :23:38. | |
all things which are being out there. This latest FBI | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
investigation, due think it will be a game changer? Yes, the final game | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
changer. Talking of Arizona, the fact Hillary Clinton it up by | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
minuscule numbers in Arizona, Georgia, states which are | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
traditional Republican,... They have flipped. Look at the BBC poll of | :23:58. | :24:03. | |
polls. I do agree we have not seen the impact of any of this. We | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
haven't begun to talk about long-term trump a senior aide and | :24:09. | :24:17. | |
his collusion with Vladimir Putin. I know you love to blame the Russians | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
are everything. And the involvement in WikiLeaks and so forth. Tapping | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
into the US government. The bigger issue here is there a 21 million | :24:27. | :24:34. | |
votes already cast. That has to go forward. Most of those votes have | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
been strongly for Secretary Clinton. Just a minute. The states have come | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
out over the weekend and said if people want to vote again and pull | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
their votes back, they are allowed to do that because of this | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
information. I have not had that, actually. Whatever happens, has | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
there ever been a more vitriolic, bitter election campaign in US | :24:59. | :25:06. | |
presidential history? No. Whoever winds, are they going to be the most | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
unpopular president? Hillary Clinton is the worst of the worst of | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
government. Donald Trump is the worst of culture and reality TV. | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
People ask, 330 million people, and you give us these candidates? We | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
know Secretary Clinton has proven itself as a senator, a first lady, a | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
woman of the world, Secretary of State. She not only has the but the | :25:32. | :25:37. | |
skill set and the love of country to attempt to reunite this country | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
after a very vitriolic election. I know the vast majority of Americans | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
never Donald Trump does not have a great temper meant to be president. | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
Not much longer to go. Who knows what twists and turns lie ahead. At | :25:50. | :25:54. | |
the beginning of the season, I said wait a couple of weeks and now we | :25:55. | :25:57. | |
wait a couple of hours for things to change. Thank you both very much. | :25:58. | :25:59. | |
Thank you. Arguments over NHS funding, | :26:00. | :26:01. | |
as the chairwoman of the Commons Health Committee warns | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
the government that it is giving the misleading impression | :26:06. | :26:07. | |
that the health service in England is "awash with cash" - | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
we'll be speaking to her. If you've adopted children - | :26:11. | :26:17. | |
do you get enough support The charity Adoption UK believes | :26:18. | :26:20. | |
many teachers don't understand how best to help adopted children, | :26:21. | :26:23. | |
or those in care. It says they often struggle to trust | :26:24. | :26:25. | |
adults, and consequently do worse We can talk now to Hugh Thornbery, | :26:26. | :26:28. | |
the Chief Executive of Adoption UK and Andy Hatton, who is dad to two | :26:29. | :26:35. | |
adopted girls aged seven and six. J J Cassidy got in touch with us. He | :26:36. | :26:49. | |
adopted a son at the age of four. He didn't have the right support from | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
his school. What was your experience? My experience was we | :26:53. | :27:02. | |
went into a school that had a sinkhole, not fit for purpose, and | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
the School has fortunately turned around. They've got good, and it's | :27:08. | :27:16. | |
very much, the concentration is not there on the children, and their | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
needs, and picking their needs are quickly enough, then the child's | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
mother was education will suffer. The phrase being used to describe | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
kids who are in this situation is attachment disorder. Not everyone | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
will be familiar so explain it. Basically, children with a difficult | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
start in life, not been able to develop relationships. Most children | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
as babies would find relationships with their parents in other aspects | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
of their life. It's simple to understand but to deal with it is | :27:50. | :27:56. | |
complex. Very hard. We heard from JJ, at the moment, many schools | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
struggle to understand these children, therefore manage them in | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
the classroom. Other schools do a very, very good job. We are calling | :28:04. | :28:10. | |
for alongside the Nu T is better awareness across all schools in the | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
country about the needs of these children. You adopted a couple of | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
children, Andy. Have you experienced this? We have. The eldest girl, when | :28:20. | :28:30. | |
she first came to us, she really struggle to develop bonds with | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
anything. She has no favourite teddy, favourite toys, and it took a | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
long time before she actually started to identify things. We knew | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
that was because she'd been moved from home to home, she'd never been | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
able to settle, never had anything permanent in her life, so when she | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
went to school obviously that started to manifest itself in here | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
being quite withdrawn. A way of dealing with things was she would | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
draw into herself and with said, she is a daydreamer, she's not paying | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
attention. If you look at statistics, just 49% of adopted | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
children will reach their expected levels of Key stage two compared to | :29:08. | :29:15. | |
75% of their peers, so it's clear it's something which has to be | :29:16. | :29:19. | |
addressed, and not just left something which is potentially a | :29:20. | :29:22. | |
natural way for that child to be. What have you found to be the best | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
ways of dealing with it? We were very fortunate, when the girls came | :29:28. | :29:33. | |
to us, we looked around at different schools. We were able to choose a | :29:34. | :29:36. | |
school before would be best for our children. They had a parent liaison | :29:37. | :29:42. | |
officer in the school. She was very understanding. A mistake that we | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
made was that we just said to people, the girls were adopted. And | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
we kind of assumed that teachers, being trained professionals, they | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
would understand what that meant. Why was that a mistake you made? | :29:58. | :30:04. | |
Because it made an assumption. Not assuming it would lead to... We | :30:05. | :30:09. | |
assumed they would understand what it meant. Early on, according to the | :30:10. | :30:17. | |
school, our eldest daughter was having developmental issues and | :30:18. | :30:20. | |
explained the background and history of where should come from,, OK, now | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
we understand. That explains an awful lot. And they were able to | :30:27. | :30:28. | |
take action and sort things out. Is it incumbent on the parents to | :30:29. | :30:38. | |
spell out and not assume the school will do the right thing? Adoption | :30:39. | :30:41. | |
works really well because the adoptive parents get really good | :30:42. | :30:44. | |
knowledge and understand their children. We shouldn't allow this | :30:45. | :30:51. | |
just to fool on the responsibility of the adoptive parents -- fall on | :30:52. | :30:55. | |
the responsibility. We want schools to have greater understanding and | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
awareness which is why we are publishing guidance today. Beyond | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
that it's important that within the classroom, classroom teachers | :31:04. | :31:05. | |
understand how these children might behave and understand how to respond | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
to that. The traditional approach is behavioural management, that doesn't | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
work with these children. They need greater focus on relationships. | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
Presumably it's resource heavy for a school? No, and I think if you do | :31:18. | :31:24. | |
this right it's less of a drain on resources. The government commits | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
?1900 per year to children adopted from Kent to schools. There is | :31:30. | :31:32. | |
additional funding for them to be able to buy training, counselling | :31:33. | :31:38. | |
support, or to provide one-to-one support for children. David on | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
Facebook says teachers Harv are hard enough job as it is without people | :31:44. | :31:48. | |
expecting them to be social workers as well. Another viewer says | :31:49. | :31:54. | |
teachers need to be sensitive to the needs of all their children. Family | :31:55. | :32:01. | |
tree work or bringing in baby pictures can be a problem. Is that | :32:02. | :32:08. | |
something you've experienced? We have never hidden the fact the girls | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
were adopted but we don't advertise it. We've always said we just want | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
to be a normal family so we try and be as normal as possible. Early on | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
there was a bring your baby photos to school. How did you handle that? | :32:22. | :32:28. | |
We give them photographs of when they were toddlers. They went babies | :32:29. | :32:31. | |
but we had photos of them when they were very young. It was quite | :32:32. | :32:35. | |
noticeable when they pinned the pictures up that everyone else had | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
baby photos and we didn't. No one commented on it. But it made us feel | :32:40. | :32:45. | |
slightly uncomfortable. Thank you very much for talking to us. | :32:46. | :32:53. | |
We'll be talking to an MP who says she was forced to take out a loan | :32:54. | :32:57. | |
just so she could afford to bury her eight-year-old son. | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
She is now campaigning to end council charges | :33:01. | :33:02. | |
Also coming up - are drug fix rooms, where addicts can inject heroin | :33:03. | :33:06. | |
We'll be talking to someone who runs a drug consumption | :33:07. | :33:11. | |
Now for the news from the BBC Newsroom. | :33:12. | :33:22. | |
Raheem Kassam, a former aide to Nigel Farage, | :33:23. | :33:24. | |
has dropped out of the race to become Ukip leader. | :33:25. | :33:27. | |
The former advisor says his path to victory is too narrow | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
and that the top of party was treating the contest | :33:32. | :33:33. | |
He has given his backing to London Assembly member | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
He is the third leadership contender to withdraw from the race | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
which was triggered when Diane James stood down just days | :33:43. | :33:45. | |
The Democratic leader in the US Senate says the head of the FBI may | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
have broken the law by revealing the bureau was investigating emails | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
Harry Reid accused FBI director James Comey of violating an act | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
which bars officials from influencing an election. | :34:00. | :34:08. | |
News of the FBI inquiry comes less than two weeks | :34:09. | :34:10. | |
The bureau has meanwhile obtained a warrant to search a cache | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
of emails belonging to a top Clinton aide. | :34:15. | :34:16. | |
Barclays bank says "a small number of customers" in the UK have been | :34:17. | :34:19. | |
charged twice for debit card transactions made this morning. | :34:20. | :34:21. | |
A spokesman confirmed that some debit card payments have been | :34:22. | :34:23. | |
The bank says it became aware of the problem earlier today | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
It also says that no customers will be out of pocket | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
Following the huge earthquake yesterday in Italy, 6.6 magnitude, | :34:32. | :34:49. | |
and many people have had to spend the night in tents, certainly | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
staying out of their homes while people assess what the situation is | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
with more after-shocks expected. The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
is expected to announce today whether she'll commission an inquiry | :35:03. | :35:04. | |
into the clash between police and miners at Orgreave | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
in South Yorkshire. It was the most violent | :35:08. | :35:09. | |
confrontation of the More than 120 officers | :35:10. | :35:10. | |
and miners were injured, Campaigners claim police | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
used excessive force That's a summary of the latest news, | :35:14. | :35:16. | |
join me for BBC Newsroom Lewis Hamilton won the Mexican Grand | :35:17. | :35:22. | |
Prix to cut Nico Rosberg's lead in the Formula One drivers' | :35:23. | :35:33. | |
championship to 19 points, but there are only two races left | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
to go this season and Hamilton has conceded that he may have left it | :35:37. | :35:39. | |
too late in his title push, with Rosberg needing just a second | :35:40. | :35:42. | |
and third place finish Just one point separates the top | :35:43. | :35:44. | |
four in the Premier League after Chelsea beat Southampton 2-0 | :35:45. | :35:54. | |
to keep in touch with the leaders. Manchester City, Arsenal | :35:55. | :35:56. | |
and Liverpool are level Andy Murray's quest to become | :35:57. | :35:58. | |
World Number 1 is still on track. He beat Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to win | :35:59. | :36:02. | |
the Vienna Open yesterday, Victory at the Paris Masters next | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
weekend will knock Novak Djokovic off the top of the rankings | :36:06. | :36:11. | |
if the Serb doesn't reach the final. And Sir Bradley Wiggins bowed out | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
in front of his home crowd yesterday with a second place finish | :36:18. | :36:20. | |
at the London six-day event. The 36-year-old is due to retire | :36:21. | :36:23. | |
in the next fortnight, but did hint he could | :36:24. | :36:25. | |
change his mind. I'll be back on the BBC News Channel | :36:26. | :36:34. | |
in the next hour and beyond. A group of MPs says the government | :36:35. | :36:40. | |
is wrong to keep claiming it's giving an extra ?10 billion | :36:41. | :36:43. | |
to the NHS in England over The Health Committee has written | :36:44. | :36:46. | |
to the chancellor to say using the figure gives the "false | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
impression that the NHS We can speak now to | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
Doctor Sarah Wollaston, the Conservative chair of the group | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
of MPs who look at health matters. Is this a lie? It is giving an | :36:59. | :37:13. | |
impression that the NHS is awash with cash when in fact health and | :37:14. | :37:16. | |
social care is under enormous financial pressure. We've written to | :37:17. | :37:19. | |
the Chancellor to set out why we think this is the wrong figure and | :37:20. | :37:22. | |
what we feel he needs to look at in his Autumn Statement. They aren't | :37:23. | :37:30. | |
mutually exclusive. You could be giving ?10 billion but it's not | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
necessarily the case it is awash with cash. You saying that the ?10 | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
billion isn't the case? You can see how this figure has been arrived at | :37:39. | :37:43. | |
but it's been arrived by adding an extra year to the spending review | :37:44. | :37:46. | |
period which wouldn't normally be done. It's also referring | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
specifically to a part of the health budget called the NHS England | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
budget. That's been boosted by shifting money from other important | :37:55. | :37:57. | |
parts of health spending like public health and the budgets we use for | :37:58. | :38:01. | |
training and education. You can end up making one budget look bigger by | :38:02. | :38:07. | |
moving it from other areas that are essential. I didn't think anyone is | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
under the impression the NHS is awash with cash, are they? It's | :38:11. | :38:16. | |
clear budgets are tight but the NHS is getting extra funding. The point | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
is that inflation for the health service and social care runs far | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
higher. If you look at the change in our population, we've had a 21% | :38:26. | :38:29. | |
increase in the number of people over 65 in the last decade and 31% | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
increase in the number of people over 85. Those kind of changes to | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
our population puts pressure on. How do you address that? What with the | :38:41. | :38:47. | |
funding be do you think? What we're saying is look at health and social | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
care together rather than separate them. And bear in mind that unless | :38:52. | :38:55. | |
we are focusing on things like prevention for the future, training | :38:56. | :38:59. | |
our future workforce, all these things will add to future costs in | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
the NHS. We are saying that we need to have a sustainable future funding | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
model. There are lots of options up the. One thing is to show that | :39:08. | :39:14. | |
health and social care will be sinking further into crisis over the | :39:15. | :39:17. | |
next few years unless something is done to address that. Saying that | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
its ten unfortunately makes it much harder to argue for more spending. | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
We need to use the right figure which is 4.5 billion. We have got | :39:26. | :39:33. | |
some breaking news to bring new from the courts. An interesting ruling on | :39:34. | :39:39. | |
joint enterprise which is a law that allows people to be convicted of | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
murder even if they do not inflict the fatal blow. Leading judges have | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
refused to overturn guilty verdicts in what was the first test case | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
joint enterprise challenge brought up a Supreme Court ruling raised the | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
possibility hundreds of convictions could be unsafe. The Court of Appeal | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
was ruling today on the cases of 12 men who have appealed their | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
convictions of a murder under the joint enterprise rule. It follows an | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
from the Supreme Court ruling that found judges have been supplying the | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
wrath of 30 years and foresight of a fatal attack is not necessarily | :40:18. | :40:23. | |
enough for a jury to convicted defendant of manslaughter. This was | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
the first case following on from that ruling that was challenging the | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
convictions of 12 men. They've lost their case. The judges in this case | :40:33. | :40:35. | |
have refused to overturn the guilty verdicts. An interesting ruling. We | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
will bring you more reaction from the court. | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
An MP who was forced to borrow money and take out a loan | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
just so she could afford to bury her eight-year-old son | :40:47. | :40:48. | |
who was killed in a road accident - is speaking out for the first time | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
about what she describes as the "darkest period of her life". | :40:53. | :40:55. | |
Carolyn Harris - the Labour MP for Swansea East - | :40:56. | :40:58. | |
was left with a ?1700 funeral bill - which she couldn't afford - | :40:59. | :41:01. | |
for her son Martin who was killed in 1989. | :41:02. | :41:03. | |
Now she is backing a new campaign to end council charges | :41:04. | :41:06. | |
Thank you so much for coming in. Just to go back to what happened to | :41:07. | :41:22. | |
you. You were a young mum, a divorced mum in 1989. You had two | :41:23. | :41:26. | |
sons and you're out in the country when Martin was killed in a road | :41:27. | :41:30. | |
accident. You described the two years that followed that, any parent | :41:31. | :41:36. | |
could understand it exactly how you felt, as the darkest period of your | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
life. What was it like? It must have been horrendous. It's beyond words. | :41:41. | :41:49. | |
You can't imagine. You wake up every day and you have a different | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
sensation. You just learn to live with that awful emptiness, the ache | :41:54. | :42:00. | |
and the guilt. The anger. And you try to compensate by, for me it was | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
to visit Martin's grave, every day if I could. Put flowers on his | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
grave. You just can't believe this has happened to you. You never ever | :42:13. | :42:20. | |
get over it. What kept you going? My three-year-old son. Stewart. He is | :42:21. | :42:26. | |
now 31. I made a calculated decision, which one of my boys | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
needed me more. I was able to bury Martin with my grandparents are the | :42:32. | :42:38. | |
calculation was they were with grandma and grandpa. Stuart couldn't | :42:39. | :42:41. | |
have coped with losing his mum and brother so close together so I was | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
therefore Stuart. You were going through that, you had to then find a | :42:46. | :42:54. | |
money to pay for a funeral that you didn't want to even be planning. | :42:55. | :42:59. | |
Nobody expects to bury their child so no one expects to bury their | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
child. Last time I saw Martin he was a bouncy happy child. You don't | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
expect to lose him. When you are asked about things at the funeral, | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
you don't think how much is that going to cost. You just think, this | :43:16. | :43:20. | |
is my child, whatever I need to do, I will have. I know that I had | :43:21. | :43:26. | |
several cars because we took Martin to church the night before. We had | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
to funerals in effect. The undertaker was wonderful, he gave me | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
massive discounts, I know he did, as did my church and might occur. The | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
biggest cost was the actual burial cost because I was reopening the | :43:41. | :43:46. | |
grave, which was quite expensive. When you see it in the cold light of | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
day a month later written on paper, apart from the fact it looks really | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
cold and you think, my God, where am I going to get this money from? We | :43:55. | :44:00. | |
were fortunate that my husband is from a really close community, as I | :44:01. | :44:04. | |
am. His mates in the pub did a whip around and they turned up out of the | :44:05. | :44:10. | |
blue with ?1000 which left us with ?750. My mother and father offered | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
to help us but my husband and I wanted to do it ourselves. Martin | :44:15. | :44:19. | |
was my son and David wanted to support me in burying him. That | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
shouldn't have to happen, the worst time of your life, having to | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
scrabble around. I can remember sitting in the house, there were no | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
mobiles then, waiting for David to phone me from the phone box outside | :44:34. | :44:35. | |
the bank to say we've got the ?750. You then were not an MP. I had been | :44:36. | :44:49. | |
a barmaid. I was looking after the kids then. Two years later, when I | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
came out of this place, I worked as a dinner lady with mentally | :44:54. | :44:59. | |
handicapped children. And physically handicapped children. I just wanted | :45:00. | :45:05. | |
to do something, working with kids, who maybe didn't have the advantage | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
is my son had had. Good health. From there, I got involved with all sorts | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
of things, political, and ended up going to university at 34. I think | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
it was losing Martin, probably, the catalyst for me and wanting to never | :45:21. | :45:23. | |
be in that position again that I couldn't afford to provide for my | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
children because my kids never went without. At that time, when I just | :45:28. | :45:33. | |
didn't have the money, to pay for it. Now you are in a position where | :45:34. | :45:38. | |
you can affect change. What do you want to see happen? I don't want any | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
other parent to have that awful worry of where we are going to get | :45:43. | :45:46. | |
the money from? 5000 kids will pass away in this country every year, | :45:47. | :45:50. | |
4000 of those will be babies. You can't imagine what that feels like, | :45:51. | :45:55. | |
that pain is absolutely unimaginable. Unless you've been | :45:56. | :46:01. | |
there, you can't experience it. If the only thing we can do to make it | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
slightly more restful for the parents, is not to have to worry | :46:07. | :46:09. | |
about the cost of the funeral, it's not something any mother should be | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
worrying about. What reaction had you had politically? I've not gone | :46:15. | :46:22. | |
on Twitter. Other people have treated, and gone on Facebook, and | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
I've had a tough weekend since the story came out. I made a decision to | :46:28. | :46:32. | |
tell the story but did not expect to feel quite as bad. It's brought | :46:33. | :46:36. | |
everything back. People are very supportive and I hope Philip Hammond | :46:37. | :46:42. | |
can find it in his heart. Have you had any indication? No. It would | :46:43. | :46:49. | |
mean the world to me. There's a mother out there who was going to be | :46:50. | :46:52. | |
in the position I was 27 years ago, and my heart bleeds for him now. | :46:53. | :46:59. | |
Thank you for coming in. Thank you. Let's bring you more on that | :47:00. | :47:02. | |
breaking News that leading judges have refused to overturn guilty | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
verdicts in the first test case joint enterprise challenges that | :47:08. | :47:10. | |
were brought after a Supreme Court ruling raised the possibility | :47:11. | :47:12. | |
hundreds of convictions could be unsafe. Five Coleman is outside of | :47:13. | :47:18. | |
all court of justice. They have lost, haven't they, so tell us how | :47:19. | :47:24. | |
significant this could be. They have lost so extraordinary scenes in | :47:25. | :47:27. | |
court. Lord Chief Justice who gave the judgment left the court with | :47:28. | :47:31. | |
screams and shouts of valid terms of the 12 men concerned bringing in his | :47:32. | :47:37. | |
ears. Shouting, no justice, no peace. This is a really complicated | :47:38. | :47:42. | |
area of law but let me explain it to you and why it is so significant. | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
Back in February, the Supreme Court didn't extraordinary thing, | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
basically saying the law that governs the conviction of | :47:52. | :47:54. | |
accomplices, those people who played a lesser role in a crime, in | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
particular murder, those who didn't wield the fatal blow, inflicted, the | :48:00. | :48:05. | |
weapon, the law had been wrong and wrongly applied for 30 years. An | :48:06. | :48:13. | |
incredible statement by the president of the Supreme Court. He | :48:14. | :48:18. | |
said it's up to the Supreme Court to correct the position. The reason why | :48:19. | :48:20. | |
it had been wrongly applied was the test had been simply if you were out | :48:21. | :48:26. | |
in a group of people and one of them went on to kill or cause GBH, the | :48:27. | :48:33. | |
test was, could you, another member of the group, foresee that that | :48:34. | :48:39. | |
other person might either kill or cause serious harm? It was a test of | :48:40. | :48:45. | |
foresight, not intention. The Supreme Court said that's wrong. | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
Foresight alone is not enough. I have to say, it was seen by many as | :48:50. | :48:53. | |
a low bar for prosecutors to cross and one which enabled them to throw | :48:54. | :48:57. | |
the net over group saw gangs in particular of young men. The Supreme | :48:58. | :49:04. | |
Court said no, the test must be has the accomplice intended to encourage | :49:05. | :49:11. | |
or assist the person who physically killed? It meant that there were | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
many people in fact, the campaign which campaigns on this issue, says | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
they are in touch with up to 700 people who they say are in prison | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
who may have been wrongly convicted under the old law, so there was an | :49:26. | :49:30. | |
incredible air of anticipation as the first raft of cases came to the | :49:31. | :49:37. | |
Court of Appeal to argue that these convictions should be overturned. | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
This morning the hopes of those involved have been --. All of the | :49:42. | :49:47. | |
appeals and applications have been turned down and what this indicates | :49:48. | :49:52. | |
is the Court of Appeal is not going to open the floodgates, it won't be | :49:53. | :50:00. | |
having appeals based simply on the fact that the old wrong law was | :50:01. | :50:04. | |
applied that will lead to the quashing of convictions. I should | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
add the lord Chief Justice emphasised this morning that the | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
Supreme Court's judgment didn't mean, just because the old law was | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
applied, the wrong law, a conviction should be quashed. One of the key | :50:18. | :50:21. | |
reasons he absolutely emphasised this in court this morning was that | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
the majority of these appeals were brought out of time. 20 days to | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
bring an appeal against a conviction. These were long after | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
that and if you do that, you have to do seek exceptional leave from the | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
Court of Appeal. The Court of Appeal has to be satisfied if they don't | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
grant you that lead, you will suffer a substantial injustice. The judges | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
looked carefully at that issue and come to the conclusion that a very | :50:47. | :50:49. | |
high bar for people who are appealing to cross and they have | :50:50. | :50:56. | |
therefore turned down all of these appeals and applications for leave | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
to appeal. It is a crushing blow for the families of those in court today | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
who were hoping for better. Thank you very much, Clive. Let's go back | :51:05. | :51:10. | |
to the other breaking news this morning, the story that another | :51:11. | :51:13. | |
candidate has pulled out of the race to become the next leader of the UK | :51:14. | :51:18. | |
Independence Party. Raheem Kassam, a former aide to Nigel Farage, has | :51:19. | :51:21. | |
withdrawn just three days before he launched a campaign. We can speak to | :51:22. | :51:27. | |
her Ukip MEP. What you think about this? I'm not particularly | :51:28. | :51:32. | |
surprised. I think he didn't really have the depth to mount a credible | :51:33. | :51:38. | |
campaign. The other thing is, he's been widely criticised for the sort | :51:39. | :51:42. | |
of offensive language used on social media. We seem to have lost the | :51:43. | :51:53. | |
line. Can use to hear me, Roger? No, unfortunately not. We have lost him. | :51:54. | :51:58. | |
We will try to speak to him if we can restore the connection. Let's | :51:59. | :52:05. | |
move on to those drug treatment centres. Drug addicts can go to take | :52:06. | :52:11. | |
heroin. Under the watch of various health workers. | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
HIV, botulism and anthrax are on the increase in Glasgow | :52:16. | :52:17. | |
because heroin users get their fix using dirty needles in dirty places. | :52:18. | :52:22. | |
Is part of the answer what's being called "fix rooms" - | :52:23. | :52:25. | |
safe places to inject heroin- provided by the state? | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
That's the proposal which looks likely to be agreed in Glasgow | :52:30. | :52:31. | |
today by the police, the council and the | :52:32. | :52:33. | |
The move aims to address the problems caused by an estimated | :52:34. | :52:40. | |
500 or so users who inject on Glasgow's streets. | :52:41. | :52:42. | |
Such facilities have already been running across Europe for decades. | :52:43. | :52:45. | |
We can talk now to Rasmus Koberg Christiansen, | :52:46. | :52:49. | |
who runs a drug consumption room in Copenhagen - and Cedric Charvet, | :52:50. | :52:52. | |
who runs a drug consumption room in Amsterdam. | :52:53. | :52:56. | |
Thank you both very much for joining us. Tell us how your centre works, | :52:57. | :53:04. | |
how many people use it and what impact you think it had. Yes, we've | :53:05. | :53:10. | |
had a drug consumption room in Copenhagen for four and a half | :53:11. | :53:19. | |
years. We have between 500-700 drug users in the centre every day. In | :53:20. | :53:25. | |
the time we have been running, we have had almost 600 overdose | :53:26. | :53:31. | |
situations and no one has died in our centre. What about if you got so | :53:32. | :53:38. | |
many coming every day, if any indication any of them turn away | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
from drugs after coming into contact with people who could put them onto | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
a different path? We are talking about a group of people here, very | :53:47. | :53:53. | |
hard drug users, so, of course, when we talk to them and they come to our | :53:54. | :53:56. | |
centre, we build up relations with them and then we can also point them | :53:57. | :54:03. | |
in a direction where they can get treatment and stuff like that so, | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
yes, it happens. It's more about making sure that these honourable | :54:08. | :54:10. | |
people don't die rather than making sure they go down a different path? | :54:11. | :54:17. | |
The first step is that they don't die and then a second step is tied | :54:18. | :54:23. | |
to up relations so they can find a different path, yes. Cedric, what is | :54:24. | :54:27. | |
the situation with your room in and put them -- Amsterdam? We're | :54:28. | :54:35. | |
operating those facilities for more than 15 years. On a smaller scale | :54:36. | :54:44. | |
from the previous guest. We tried to have integrated facilities spread | :54:45. | :54:50. | |
around big cities which does not concentrate users. In terms of | :54:51. | :54:56. | |
treatment, we are there to limit the risk of using drugs, prevention of | :54:57. | :55:05. | |
blood transmission diseases. Even more now than drug-related deaths. | :55:06. | :55:13. | |
In fact, none of them, no overdose in our facilities. The benefit of | :55:14. | :55:20. | |
our organisation is most likely to prevent blood transmitted disease, | :55:21. | :55:28. | |
overdose and also the drug scene, drug use, all of those related | :55:29. | :55:35. | |
impacts has a major impact on the public in general and public | :55:36. | :55:42. | |
resources. We try to tackle that as much as the impact of drug use on | :55:43. | :55:51. | |
the individual. People who don't like these rooms are concerned about | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
the message it sends out, which is indicating that actually, it's OK to | :55:56. | :56:00. | |
take illegal drugs. People who do not like those rooms should maybe | :56:01. | :56:06. | |
ask users what they think about it, since what we see and feedback we | :56:07. | :56:12. | |
have from our direct neighbours, policymakers supporting us, it's a | :56:13. | :56:19. | |
positive impact at all levels. As an individual level for the drug users, | :56:20. | :56:24. | |
and for the general public. You understand, it goes both ways. It in | :56:25. | :56:30. | |
the interests of all of us. Thank you both very much. Let's go back to | :56:31. | :56:35. | |
the Ukip MEP, were talking to him a moment ago. He is able to talk to us | :56:36. | :56:41. | |
again now about the fact that Raheem Kassam, former aide to Nigel Farage, | :56:42. | :56:44. | |
has withdrawn from the race to become the next Ukip leader. Thank | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
you for coming back to us, Roger. You were saying you win surprised | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
that he has gone. -- you were not surprised. In terms of where Ukip is | :56:56. | :57:02. | |
now, how do you assess it? We need a strong leader who can unite the | :57:03. | :57:05. | |
party and who has a real in-depth knowledge of how the party works | :57:06. | :57:10. | |
across-the-board, from the branches and the regions through to the | :57:11. | :57:14. | |
executive committee, through to the MEP group in Brussels. I strongly | :57:15. | :57:21. | |
feel that Paul Nuttall is the man. The bookies agree with me on that. | :57:22. | :57:28. | |
And what should the political message be from Ukip because | :57:29. | :57:32. | |
obviously we are in a post-Brexit situation now. The broader political | :57:33. | :57:39. | |
message is very simple. Theresa May has said Brexit means Brexit, but | :57:40. | :57:43. | |
what does Brexit mean? I understand they're not going to offer a running | :57:44. | :57:48. | |
commentary. What Ukip is saying is we voted to leave, which means | :57:49. | :57:52. | |
leaving the single market, controlling our borders, getting the | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
fisheries back, no contributions to the EU budget, not subject to EU | :57:57. | :58:02. | |
rule, we will be an independent nation and, like other independent | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
nations, we will be free to negotiate a free trade deal with the | :58:07. | :58:11. | |
European Union. We are right out of time. Thank you very much for | :58:12. | :58:12. | |
joining us. On the programme tomorrow | :58:13. | :58:15. | |
we'll speak to some of the Daily Mirror Pride | :58:16. | :58:17. | |
of Britain winners. They want our physicality | :58:18. | :58:34. | |
and our musicality. | :58:35. | :58:38. |