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A very warm welcome to the Scottish parliament here at Hollywood, where

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they are talking bills, MSPs debating stage one of the bill that

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will end up abolishing the right-to-buy council houses in

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Scotland, but respond, big controversy over this, but this bone

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and the bill that would abolish the collaboration in Scottish criminal

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cases. -- it has been postponed. Not sure of either topic will come up in

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First Minister's Questions. Let's cross to the chamber.

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John Swinney is dealing with a question about renewable energy. In

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that they are the gallery today, 16 ambassadors and high commissioners

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representing the Association of South East Asian Nations match

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taking an interest today, or at least the next half hour in Scottish

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politics much as the First Minister faces questions, Labour's Johann

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Lamont first, then for the Conservative Party, Ruth Davidson,

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then questions from backbenchers. Under welcome to their ambassadors

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from-- and welcome to the ambassadors from the Presiding

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Officer. Welcome ambassadors from the Association of Southeast Asian

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Nations. APPLAUSE. Thank you, question number one,

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Johann Lamont. To add the First Minister what engagements he has

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planned for the rest of the day. Taking forward the government's

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programme for Scotland. Do you still have confidence in your Justice

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Secretary? No surprise there. I welcomed the government was

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micro-interesting, robbery, because like many others in this chamber, I

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have concerns about whether it achieves justice for every victim,

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particularly women. The process has been flawed and serious reservations

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have not been addressed. I believe the Cabinet Secretary has taken the

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right decision in delaying these plans, but I also thought it was the

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right decision six weeks ago when my Coley, formerly one of the most

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senior police officers, suggested this course of action. Can I remind

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you of Kenny MacAskill's considered response to that question six weeks

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ago, saying we know that Labour members take their cue from Cameron

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and George Osborne, Labour has sold its soul and is in danger of selling

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out the victims of crime. Does the First Minister agree with his

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cabinet secretary that previous moves to delay this legislation are

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part of a Tory led conspiracy? Or was it just the right thing to do?

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It is certainly true that it was very difficult to reconcile

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Labour's manifesto commitment to look at the matter of corroboration

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with the position the Labour Party were adopting with regard to the

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criminal Justice Bill. Moving the General Lorimer robberies and from

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Scotland -- moving the general law of corroboration we believe will

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secure access to justice for other people otherwise denied by the

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present situation. When cases cannot be brought to trial because they do

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not have that standard of corroboration which is unique within

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the Scottish criminal justice system. That is why the moves Kenny

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MacAskill made, and this government proposed, to look again at the

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general law of corroboration, to move it and put in place the

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standard of evidence as opposed to the quantity of evidence has been

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widely welcomed by the organisations giving most people suffering most

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from this situation, such as rape crisis organisations, and the three

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opposition parties at the bureau this week if we could look again at

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delaying the legislation until after the review group reported. The

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Justice Secretary ceded to that request. Given that was done, would

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it not be gracious and reasonable for the Labour Party to try and

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focus on the issue? The issue that hope lay all of us want to secure,

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and that is access to justice for people who have been subjected to

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some of the vilest crimes in Scotland. APPLAUSE.

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some of the vilest crimes in I think the First Minister, if you

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are serious about that, with address I think the First Minister, if you

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Secretary's responds to concerns was I think the First Minister, if you

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to impugn the motives of those doing so. I ask him again to

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to impugn the motives of those doing what the Cabinet Secretary's

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to impugn the motives of those doing responds to the Labour Party request

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to impugn the motives of those doing for delay was, the gap between that

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and what the First Minister says for delay was, the gap between that

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could not be greater. Let us look at the process,

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could not be greater. Let us look at Justice Scotland

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could not be greater. Let us look at raised valid concerns

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could not be greater. Let us look at corroboration. These were

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could not be greater. Let us look at by the Justice Secretary, who told

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could not be greater. Let us look at his party conference, laws are made

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by Parliament, not one profession. This is not a debate between learner

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legal friends. When the Justice committee raised more concerns,

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Kenny MacAskill came up with the genius idea of setting up an expert

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group to scrutinise the bill which will report after the legislation

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was passed. After his disgraceful performance in this chamber six

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weeks ago, and this embarrassing climb-down, I at the First Minister

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in all seriousness, do you believe this has been an appropriate way to

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take through legislation on an issue of this importance? -- I ask the

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First Minister. This government is taking forward legislation because

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we believe absolutely the issue is of vital importance. That has been

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our motivation for taking forward this legislation, because we have

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listened to arguments and the pleas from the organisations I mentioned.

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I can cannot help but contrast the observations of Johann Lamont in

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this issue. Compared to the organisations campaigning and

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putting forward and supporting the government's I -- attends to redress

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the situation. Such as rape crisis Scotland. The welcome from victim

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support Scotland, Annabel Goldie describing yesterday the Cabinet

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Secretary's decision as courageous. She did not do that in as Humphrey

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way, but in a genuine way. This government which has a majority in

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this Parliament, listening to the arguments put forward by the

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opposition parties, trying to get the maximum unity behind our

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proposal, isn't it reasonable that given the desire we have to access

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justice for the victims of crime, that that should have a general

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welcome and support? That is the determination of this government to

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reject the situation and that is exactly what we are going to do.

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It is precisely because I cared so deeply about these issues that we

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were determined that we build a consensus on making such a decision.

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And that is why the Cabinet Secretary's hostility to anyone who

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disagreed with him whatsoever. I ask the First Minister to go back and

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look at what his Cabinet Secretary said six weeks ago and asked if that

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was an appropriate way to conduct himself. This is not Kenny

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MacAskill's first mess, his sectarian legislation was described

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as mince and horribly drafted, and his police reforms now in a tough

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war. Whilst I believe the decision announced this week was right, this

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Parliament still has a problem. We do have to find a way of building a

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consensus to address the issues of corroboration and low conviction

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rate of rape. The Labour Party from the beginning has aired we would do

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so, but given the approach of Kenny McLean soul -- the approach of Kenny

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MacAskill, and people's concerns about what he is doing, does the

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First Minister believe it is possible for this Parliament to

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reach that critical consensus on corroboration with Kenny MacAskill

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as Cabinet Secretary? In terms of accepting the review group and its

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role and the detailed examination that is going to be given in helping

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people towards acceptance and building consensus, of course. Do I

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believe the Labour Party will look on this issue as an issue in itself?

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Probably not. But the consensus that Kenny MacAskill is building is a

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cross Scottish society and that consensus, as we see, if I could say

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to Johann Lamont, it is precisely because we care about this issue so

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much that we pursue this legislation with vigour and we will continue to

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pursue it with such vigour. But I am interested in the question she asked

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about the confidence I have in this Justice Secretary. I will tell you

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why I do have confidence, because we have 1000 extra police in the

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streets and communities of Scotland, thanks to this Justice

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Secretary. Recorded crime in Scotland is down by 35%, thanks to

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this Justice Secretary. Violent crime is down by almost half under

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the office of this Justice Secretary. And crimes of handling

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offensive weapons are down by 60%! And above all, that people's fear of

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crime is dropping in Scotland for the first time. And all of these

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comparisons, under this Justice Secretary, are comparisons with when

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the Labour Party was last in government, and the people of

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Scotland, knowing and appreciating these things, no this government has

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discharged its responsibility to the team and it is of Scotland in a way

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no previous devolved administration managed. And the real issues that

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matter to the people are contained in these vital statistics. So when

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they address the general rule of corroboration, we will do it on the

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basis of giving justice to the victims of crime, and that will be

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the performance against which this government and this Justice

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Secretary is judged. Question number two, Ruth Davidson. When will you

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next meet the Prime Minister? No plans in the near future. The

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Justice Secretary gave his speech No plans in the near future. The

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including SNP member considered to be the most

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including SNP member considered to Parliament. In it, he claimed that

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those with principled objections to the abolition of a key tenet of

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Scots law were part of nothing more than a Unionist conspiracy. His

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performance was shameful to watch. So let us try this again. Now that

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the Justice Secretary has been forced into a climb-down, as the

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First Minister accept that Kenny MacAskill's claim that opposition

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parties were selling out the victims of crime because of constitutional

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beliefs was as wrong as it was offensive? I cannot help but

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contrast what Ruth Davidson just said with a statement issued by

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Annabel Goldie yesterday. Annabel Goldie, in her statement yesterday,

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the spokesperson for the Conservative Party on this issue,

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welcomed the Justice Secretary's statement, the request of the

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opposition party and said it took no little courage to

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opposition party and said it took no statement. What has happened between

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that generous welcome on the issue yesterday and the remarks just said

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by Ruth Davidson? Many in this Parliament, if we take a canvas

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opinion, rather like the days when Annabel Goldie was sitting we are

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Ruth Davidson was and Ruth Davidson did not have the leadership of her

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party. The differences I have never doubted the Scottish Cup and's

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concern for victims of crime in this matter. -- never doubted the

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Scottish Government's concerns. But we have been here before. The First

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Minister forced to stand there and defend his Justice Secretary's

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handling of the Lockerbie bomber, the handling of the single police

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force, no being forced to defend on corroboration. This is the same

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Justice Secretary who has had bills for minimum

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other ministers. This Justice Secretary's judgement is openly

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questioned by colleagues as Secretary's judgement is openly

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opponents. His judgement that the case to abolish corroboration has

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been made cannot be taken at face value. The First Minister now has an

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opportunity to restore some of the credibility lost by Kenny

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MacAskill's handling of this case, and he can extend the

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MacAskill's handling of this case, review to consider whether a bullish

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-- can extend the remix of the review. Will you? Knew we get to the

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heart of the issue. Looking at the report and the safeguards necessary

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to make the abolition of the general rule corroboration of where Waverley

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acceptable was not that at all, as far as the Conservative party we are

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concerned. It was actually root and branch opposition to the general

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rule corroboration of. Yes, you can have opposition to the general rule

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of the abolition of corroboration. But you cannot then complain about

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cases not been brought to court. That vital case was an example of a

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case not been brought to court because of the general rule of

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corroboration. You cannot have it both ways on the Conservative party.

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You cannot say you want cases brought to court and Justice for the

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victims and then oppose these reforms. That is why this government

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is doing exactly the right thing. I think we are doing the right thing

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to accede to the request of the review group to report so we can

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build the consensus on this issue. I have enormous confidence in a

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Justice Secretary who has delivered the lowest levels of recorded crime

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in a generation, who has put an extra 1000 policemen on the streets

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and we recorded crime is down by 35% on the issues that matter to the

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people of Scotland. That is the performance of this Justice

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Secretary. I have a supplementary question. At the end of January, I

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raise my concerns about the outbreak of a virus in the hospital in my

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constituency. Three months down the line, there are still restrictions

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on admissions in place. Does he share my concern about the great

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deli in resolving this? I share very much the concern of the member. She

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does know that the virus, in terms of the general application in

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Scotland, is significantly better than last year, but there is concern

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that this incident has not shown that general improvement. The Health

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Secretary will offer a meeting today to take forward any further action

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that we can take in order to resolve the situation. What measures are the

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Government putting in place to tackle food poverty? 71,000 people

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used food banks in Scotland last year. This was a fivefold increase

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in the previous year. It is an unacceptable statistic. It is

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unacceptable that so many people have to rely an emergency food

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provision. Last year, the United Kingdom Government wrote to Glasgow

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district Council saying that supermarket should do something to

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waste less food in order to reduce food bank reliability. It is

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outrageous that United Kingdom Ministers are coming to Scotland to

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lecture others on welfare. Earlier this month, the Government put

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forward ?1 million to combat food poverty in Scotland. He also knows

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we are investing ?260 million over the period up to 2016 to limit the

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damage of the imposition of welfare cuts. We will try and help wherever

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we can. With his general point, I listened to the radio this morning

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and said the Secretary of State saying "this is a fantastic system

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which provides support for some of the most vulnerable people in our

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society". This the man who is part of the better together campaign.

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This is an explanation of the parties who are dismantling the

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welfare state, which is driving people into food banks, actually

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arguing that they are I fabulous system. He is not only out of touch

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with the facts, but also out of touch with reality. What action is

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the Government taking to address the gender inequality gap. I accept

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women face inequality in many areas of life. We are looking to tackle

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that with the range of initiatives. It should be said there are good

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signs. The female unemployment rate in Scotland is now 69.4%, higher

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than any other United Kingdom nation. 52% of full-time college

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students are female and 43% of those starting in apprenticeships where

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women. That was up from 37% in 2008 -09. But all of should agree that

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more needs to be done. On the 9th of June, we will provide a forum for

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the gender equality organisations within Scotland to discuss

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opportunities for women with an independent Scotland. The first

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Minister will be aware that there is a lot of talk from anti-independence

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politicians about the supposed fantastic benefits on having welfare

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decisions made in Westminster. What they have been silent on as can we

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actually get a question? Can the first Minister assure the chamber

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that the Scottish government will use every means at its disposal to

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make Scotland a theatre and more equal society? -- fear.

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The bedroom tax has affected 72,000 households. Many of them with a

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person with a disability and the household. We are still waiting

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after repeated requests for the acceptance by Westminster that what

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we are doing is appropriate and with our powers. Even when we are

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devoting the resources of Scotland to address the bedroom tax, we

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cannot even get a letter back from Westminster. That is acceptable. Not

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only from those in the coalition, but from the Labour Party, who seek

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welfare changes could not be implemented in an independent

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Scotland and should not be implemented in an independent

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Scotland. Until labour disavows that attitude, they are guilty by

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association. Is it not interesting that we waited a year for the

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Scottish National party to take a year to take action on the bedroom

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tax? The wreck of the gender equality is not good. They have

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slashed places at colleges, is not the case they have slashed jobs the

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public sector or having a disappoint your effect on women and they have

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failed to deliver gender balance on the board of public companies. They

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have spent a grand total of some ?3000 on advertising to promote

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public appointments. I cannot but contrast that with the ?1 million

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spent on producing the prospectus for independence. That was a delayed

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reaction from the Labour benches. I will offer to statistics. 14% is the

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number of women and Gordon Brown 's Cabot Cabinet. 14%. 40% as the

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number of women in the Scottish Parliament Cabinet. Is she totally

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unaware that employment in Scotland is now at an all-time record and

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driving that increase unemployment has the sharp rise in employment of

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women, mostly in full-time jobs. Can she not find the inner part to

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welcome the improvement in the figures? To welcome the fact that

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Scotland has the highest women's employment rate of any country in

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these islands? That may be something to do with the work of this

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government and the Scottish trade Unions Congress in promoting that?

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Is she not surprised that we are just not at 42% entering

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apprenticeships, but the level we inherited of 27% from the Labour

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Party. 42% is a lot better than 17%. To ask the first Minister of what

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discussions the Scottish government has had with Glasgow City Council

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regarding the future of the flats. These were to be demolished before

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the opening of the Commonwealth Games. The road is one of eight

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transfer agent projects within Glasgow. The government is in

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partnership with Glasgow council and Glasgow home soil Association on

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this. Does he agree that critical alternative atomic accommodation

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could be found for the asylum seekers living there as quickly as

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possible? This city and the Scottish government should work with the

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local community to prioritise a dynamic and innovative regeneration

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of the site following the abolition of the towers which will benefit the

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communities. I do agree with that. The member knows that the

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partnership have done excellent work across major areas of Glasgow. ?30

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million has been put into the construction of new homes in various

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districts. I am certain the partnership will also be coming

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forward with good ideas for the site. I know they will have the

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widest possible concentration locally to see that acceptance of

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the regeneration proposals. What is the Scottish government 's

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assessment of labour market conditions in Scotland? I am

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delighted he has asked that question. It is significant that the

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opposition did not want to talk about the latest statistics, virtual

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employment levels at their highest in Scotland. The employment level

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has increased by 68% over the year. It is driven by an increase of

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46,000 in female employment. We are coming to the close of our coverage.

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Discussions at the beginning on the issue of corroboration. Pressure

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from the leaders of both the Labour and Conservative parties. But the

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first Minister said he did not only have confidence in the Justice

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Secretary, he had fantastic confidence in him. Goodbye for now.

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