FA Cup Fourth Round Special Football Focus

Oh, it's absolutely brilliant. Oh, this is getting better and better!

Ronaldo! History Boys indeed. They've won the Cup, they've won the

Cup. He's done it. He has done it! Good

afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Sincil Bank Stadium. It was here 11

days ago that Adam Marriott picked up the ball there, threaded it

through to Nathan Arnold, who round the Ipswich goalkeeper, stuck it

into the back of the net and sent Lincoln to the FA Cup. This is our

home for the entirety of Football Focus. And we look to the fixtures

and Josh McEachran paints the penalty spot, and can Lincoln do it

again? Lincoln are in great, great form and I think will fancy their

chances. Throbbing with anticipation of what

is to come. Ipswich to win it here. Four minutes of stoppage time to

play. Now, here are Lincoln on the break. Arnold's quick. Arnold's

through... Arnold's the hero. Lincoln City are through in the

dying seconds. Well, we wondered if this was going

to be an historic night, it's going to be.

What a night. What a moment! They've embarrassed

Ipswich Town. Utterly unbelievable. I tell you what, if there was a baby

born in Lincoln Town in hospital tonight, I hope it's called Lincoln!

There we are, then. Non-league national team, Lincoln, taking on

Brighton. As you can imagine for a big game like this, they are in

early! Look at them all! Yay! Very excited, it is understandable, and

the FA Cup is here, and l not to disappoint you, we have Dion Dublin

and Graeme Le Saux for the show as well. They love love you, Dionne,

they love you. Somebody has to.

You can tell it's a big week, Honey G is performing.

We missed out then! We are focussing on Lincoln but Lincoln and Sutton.

Two non-league sides for the Cup. It is fantastic.

It is rare. Very rare. A few years back, a long way back, when I was

playing. You know, it is great. Great for the clubs, and for the

revenue. Great to see so many kids. Yes, it's a great day out, as we

often say but speak to the fans, they think they have a real chance.

Lincoln, a real sense of community here, they feel that they can do it

again? The team, the club, the town, city, it has a huge identity built

around the success of what happened on the pitch. You can see what

happened at Ipswich, the character and the quality. They deserve to win

it, why not. It is a fantastic opportunity.

I believe you must be honest, if you think we go in, win this one, we

could win that one, that disappointment could be take tonne

the league, so be realistic. Let me introduce you to Owen and

Devlin. How old are you, deaf Lynne? Four years old.

No, I've five years old! That's all right. Good maths. I will ask a

maths question. What do you think that the score will be? 1-0.

To Lincoln? Yeah! Well, that is worth a round of applause.

Owen, what about you? I'm eight years old! And the score? 1-0.

Determined. OK, look down the camera and say this is what is coming up on

Football Focus! This is what is coming up on Football Focus.

Wayne Rooney on 250, not out. It was a proud moment to get to that

stage. We're in Lincoln but we can't leave

Sutton out, can they write another chapter in their rich history? Can

Tottenham tame the beast? The funny thing is that people think I can eat

loads but that has hit the spot. And Josh McEachran on going back to

the Bridge with Brentford. I didn't expect to walk into Chelsea

first, they are one of the best teams in the world. And genuinely

concerned, I think that Owen has a job. A future! Incredible! Right,

pipe down, I'm the boss around here! Steady on! Steady on! Right, let's

show you the FA Cup ties this weekend. Sorry, Owen. A beautiful

shot of lip can cathedral, and Owen told us it is the tallest building

in the world, by the way. Arsene Wenger in the stands for

Arsenal's trip to Southampton. Four games on Sunday.

Gabby Logan has been to see the record breakers to see if dedication

is really what you need. Rooney! A magnificent goal from

Wayne Rooney. Tell us a little bit about what it

feels like to score in the Premier League for Manchester United? It's

an amazing feeling. You score a goal. The initial feeling is like

you're playing football under water and when you score the goal it's

like you come up for air and you can hear the crowd, the atmosphere for

that four or five seconds. It's mad feeling.

Can you, if you had to record it, the match, would you know how the

goal developed or came about? I think so.

Go on, then, your favourite goal. The favourite was the Manchester

City goal. We were both fighting for the title.

So the circumstances of the goal? Yes, the goal at Newcastle was

better but for the moment, the best feeling, I would say it was that

one. ARCHIVE: Russian country's delivery,

oh, a sensational goal. That's number 250. Wayne Rooney stands

alone as Manchester United record goal-scorer.

That's a really impressive record to achieve.

Obviously a great moment for myself. A proud moment to get the record.

Sir Bobby Charlton was there, as he always is. He came into the dressing

room after the game and congratulated me. That meant a lot.

I speak to him after any game but for him to be there to give him his

congratulations. It was a special moment.

What do your kids say? I have been speaking to them. They understand.

They were made up. I have to re-enact it.

So let's go back to when you arrived at this club. What were the aims for

a young Wayne Rooney? I joined the club at 17. I say I wanted to win

trophies. I've done it since being here. When

I first joined the club, they had won four Premier Leagues. It is

crazy. Now obviously identify won five. I'm

sure the likes of Rashford will be looking at me, thinking they've won

five Premier League titles but that's the aim. I'm sure if he keeps

doing the right things and going the way he is, he will be a great player

for this club. And hopefully in ten, whatever many years' time, he will

be close to the record. Obviously, there have been many

teams coming through, different management regimes in the last few

years, has it invigorated you? It is part of football. Obviously

Manchester United have had the stability of Sir Alex over the 26

years before and over the last three to four years, what they've been

doing is trying to find the right one, I believe they've found him.

We're working every day. Seeing how he wants to work, setting the team

up with the successes around the corner.

You have said you would like to coach in the future, is it something

you feel is a career path you would like to go down? Of course. When you

get older you start to think more about the game, especially if you're

not playing. You sit there and think, if I were the manager, what

would I do? My whole life is around football. The minute I finish

playing I would like to stay in the game and hopefully get the

opportunity to manage. Players playing in this generation, they

have the money to not go into management, so you really do have to

want to do it. If you turned on the telly, you are

watching Football Focus from Sincil Bank Stadium. And Lincoln take on

Brighton later on. We are in the dug-out, with Dionne and Graham. You

were at Manchester United, Dionne, did you ever think that the great

work of Sir Bobby Charlton would be beaten by anybody? Never. But wane

has done it. And you don't realise the pressure on you to perform all

the time but from 16 years old, he has been in a bubble bubble of

football. He has had to perform. He's been a superstar since the age

of 19. To continue to score goals at the highest level by people trying

to stop you scoring goals at every single game it is a huge game.

It is every goal he scores seems different. He's not just a one trick

pony. But he gets criticism, is he

undervalued? I think that the problem is the baggage he picked up

along the way. People think has he reached his potential. Some of the

things that have come with him have maybe given the impression he is not

as focussed as he should have been, he could have done better. But it's

a remarkable achievement in terms of goals and the football he played

from a young age. But also the spotlight off the pitch is huge as

well. What about a future in management?

He spoke about that with Gabby but he didn't seem like the right

candidate but maybe we've misjudged him? A lot of players talking about

being managers over the years, I never thought Paul Ince would be a

manager, he is sparky but I think he has done well. But I think that

Wayne has so much knowledge to pass on, I think it will be something he

could knock into. And Rio Ferdinand says as he has

played so much, he feels like he has a who-year-old body. Speak for

yourself! I think that footballers are counting in dog years. On a

serious note, he has not had, thankfully, a major injury, that

keeps you in good shape. But it does get harder. His body has wear and

tear. I think what Rio needs is the knocks

and the pulls, and he has gotten through them.

What about Wigan? They are struggling in the Premiership. What

can Wigan do to upset Manchester United? If you sit back you will be

beat. So they have to have a go. Warren Joyce will know Manchester

United especially with the kids, Jess Lingard. But it is how to stop

United. How to stop them? We are speaking with you more later on. And

more of the guys sitting in this home team dugout later. A brilliant

fact, did you know they have been keeping the grass in tip top shape

by browing the cannabis lamps from the police force, all above board

and legal. But everything is going their way.

At 4.30am they were queuing up all this week to try to get hold of

tickets against Brighton. We are making our way down. Good morning

everybody. Thank you very much for a warm welcome. This is the away team

getting ready, Brighton. Hiya, fellas. And we are later in the home

dressing room with the man that scored that great goal, Nathan

Arnold. Good morning Mr Cowley. Lovely to see you boys. Who are you

watching analysis? Yes, the last bit of Brighton.

What has this been like? We are talking about the guys queuing up

for the tickets at 4.30am. The sense of anticipation, and excitement, it

must be hard for you to keep it together at times, Nicky? It's been

crazy. Going out for training, crowds queuing up around the stadium

and it's been crazy for us. And from a boss perspective, Daniel?

It's been magic. The magic of the FA Cup has certainly landed in Lincoln.

The buzz around the place has been great. The journey we have been on

has allowed us to connect with the city and the people.

That's the thing, the people of Lincoln have bought into the fact

you two are working hard, doing 20-hour days, the sense of

community. It has been here for a long time, bringing pride in

addition to the fact you are playing good football, playing at the top of

the league in the FA Cup? We wanted to connect the people back with the

Football Club. The club had been relegated five years ago and drifted

since the relegation. When we arrived we felt it was still in

mourning. We wanted to bring an enthusiasm and the work ethic and we

have tried to do that. Our players have been great. We have honest,

hard-working players. Since day dot they have bought into it everything

we asked of them. For us there is a natural connection and chemistry

between us and the supporters as I think we have similar traits.

And the whole brothers perspective, is it awkward? Does it get easier

with success? Do you fight amongst each other? No, not anymore! When we

were kids, maybe. I mean argue? Is it easy to talk to someone who is

your brother? You have moments. It is important that I'm a strong

personality for Danny and don't always agree for the sake of it. We

always give our own opinions. The greatest thing about our

relationship is the trust. We have a togetherness and that's how we want

the players to be. To be together and up for the challenge. We have a

big one today. Can I asked what happened against

Barrow? You lost against Barrow? Yeah.

Is that as it is hard to maintain the focus? No excuses. We started

well against Barrow. Conceded a poor goal. Barrow were excellent. I

wouldn't want to do their performance a disservice by making

excuses for ours. We try to be a no excuse mentality. We came up short

when conceding away from home at difficult places like Barrow. You

are giving yourself an uphill task. We didn't get to our levels. All of

us have had prays recently. On Tuesday night we got the criticism

we deserve. We have to shoulder it and to be big enough to learn from

it and move forward. Are you enjoying the build-up of the

game? We came here this morning, Danny is offering us a cup of tea, I

thought you would have more important thing but you seem relaxed

in this experience? When we started out, we would come

in in the second qualifying round. You would have to do two qualifying

matches to get to the qualifying rounds. You get four qualifying

rounds the first round proper. So to be a game away from being in the

last 16 of the FA is pretty amazing so we are going to enjoy it. Look at

the smiles on their faces! Guys, I really appreciate you talking to us.

Thank you very much. The Liverpool versus Wolves game is the early one

in the FA Cup fourth round and let's get the team news from Martin

Fisher. As expected, wholesale changes made

by Jurgen Klopp. Only the goalkeeper and Roberto Firmino survived from

Webster's defeat in the TfL cup semifinal against Southampton. --

weapon state's. 21-year-old Connor Randall gets another chance to

impress. Storage and Coutinho are among the subs if required. Wolves

are without their regular keeper through suspension so 20-year-old

Harry Burgoyne will make his third senior appearance. Andy Wyman, on

loan from Derby, makes his first start it over 8000 Wolves fans are

here to see if their team can make it three home defeats in a row for

Liverpool. Managed to make it back pitch side!

Genuinely sprinted into position! I'm slightly out of breath so you

will have to talk. Nine changes for Liverpool. What do you think the

slump in form is all about? I don't know if you listen to Radio 5 live

this week but Juanfran said it was time for Jurgen Klopp to go. Does he

take criticism? -- one fan said. It's difficult because they are a

very exciting team and are built to attack and create it there was a lot

of fluidity in the midfield so there is not a lot of backbone to the team

in the way they're set up a they're not scoring goals at one end and

keeping pressure on teams, there is always a bit of vulnerability at the

back and that seems to me that they getting punished. They might be

playing quite well but are getting punished and conceding goals. You

can't read into nine changes too much, in terms of he's picking a

team for this particular game and thinking about other matters as

well. But ultimately, it is such fine margins and they're getting

punished for things that maybe aren't as bad as we think. The new

managers that have come in realising it is not a two horse race or three

race. Lots of teams can win the league. Starting with the squeeze

out his thinking, we can't do that all the time. He is changing the way

he plays against certain teams. I still think he's the right man for

the job. I like him, I think he's a very good manager. Sometimes I think

other fans of other clubs think that because everybody likes him, he

doesn't get criticised as much as some other managers would do but

he's got to hold onto his best players. Coutinho has signed a

contract but contracts don't mean much these days it up Lallana is a

fantastic player for them and it is a talisman. You've got to have

something to fall back on when those players aren't able to play about

level. They can't do it 90 minutes every game. When they come to life,

they perform at the highest levels and they do individual brilliance.

Players like Coutinho and I still think Daniel Sturridge... Henderson

has become a better player and Firmino is standing up to be

counted. Players like that will attract other players. You can't

bring in the great players if you don't have great players. 9000

Wolves fans are going to be at Anfield. Doesn't surprise me. Paul

Lambert said they're going to go for it and had nothing to lose. Could be

a great afternoon. Given how Liverpool are playing at the moment,

if they can absorb the pressure Liverpool will throw at them, and

take advantage of chances, whether it is set pieces counterattack, they

can go and win that game and they will fancy their chances. Paul

Lambert knows how to win a he was the manager of another club and beat

Norwich 6-0. He ended up being the Norwich manager later. He knows how

to win an individual game. You dug into the memory banks there! I'll

give eight-year-old Owen a shout! Let's show you the fact that you can

see all those goals from Anfield on the BBC website. There will also be

a programme from 2:30pm where Jason will be joined by Garth Brooks and

Kevin Kilbane. Highlights of all today's games on Match of the Day at

10:30pm. It is Gabby Logan with Trevor Sinclair and Danny Murphy.

Mark Clemmitt has been out with the bus.

We're on the trail of two of the clubs who are facing opposition from

three divisions higher this week. And a little while, we'll meet one

of lower league football's larger-than-life characters but

first, having seen off neighbours Wimbledon in the last round in a

leafy corner of South London, Sutton united are preparing for the visit

of leads -- Leeds. Here we go. Morning, guys. Can you define the

essence of this group of players? Why they've had the success they've

had? We're tight-knit group. We had promotion last year and we kept

together. We've gone on and pushed on and on really well. The club has

made about half a million quid. To be frank with you, the least they

could run two would be five litres of blue paint! Shall we have a look

at the facilities? I'm not in any way denigrating these but a little

bit tight, I would suggest. Nice use of the colour brown. Not sure quite

what's going on here so I'm not going ask! It's funny what the cup

shocks up with your Leeds United connections. It certainly does but

plus, the history that Sutton have got with Leeds, which was 30 odd

years ago... 47 years ago, 1970! All good ingredients. There you are!

That's a goal. What a pity for Dave. I think six was not about score. I

think we got off quite likely. 64 Leeds. Do you think this generation

stand any chance this weekend? They stand a better chance than we did,

I'm certain of that. He twists and turns on shoots and scores

spectacularly. Has life changed hugely for you over the last eight

weeks, since you started scoring these crucial goals? I could say

yes. A lot of interviews, a lot of new friends showing up from back in

the day. Can you imagine the atmosphere around here at four

o'clock on Sunday afternoon, if you were to beat them? It would be

amazing. It would surpass the feeling... It would be incredible.

People are pinching themselves. We've seen managers in the Leeds

United poster from 1970. I never dreamt that looking at that post of

the last ten years since I've been here that one day that could happen

to me and this club again. Meanwhile, Wycombe Wanderers are

heading to Spurs and in the best traditions of the FA Cup, we've

brought their biggest name to his favourite jerk chicken shop. There

he is! Are you good? I'm good! I can see you are. Have you finished? I

can't believe that! The funny thing is, people think agony loads and

loads and loads but this hit the spot! Do you in anyway resent the

fact that whenever anybody talks about you, it's always your physical

Di mentioned before the football? Not any more. Used to be, "Look, I'm

a footballer first and foremost," about my size but now it doesn't

really bother me to it people said I was too big to play football but 14

later, I'm still here. It has so do well, hasn't it? I would argue that

you are probably the best-known player in the lower two divisions.

Social media has played a massive part and I think it bridges the gap.

It makes what is such a big world smaller. It makes anybody

accessible. And Liverpool, we played Liverpool, Wimbledon, it took me on

to a whole other plateau. What a great goal that is. Unleash the

beast! One of my favourite moments of the season was the explosion of

joy when you came out of perhaps to go to Tottenham. -- out of the hat.

This is what I think the beauty of the FA Cup is. It's what the lower

league teams dream of, a chance to pick yourself up against the elite

and at the moment, Totten is probably one of the most inform

teams around, especially in the Premier league. So, for us, I

wouldn't say it is what dreams are made but this is what we play

football for. For myself, I'm going to try enjoy every minute.

One last thing. Somebody told me there was a little dance, a couple

of moves. Can you give us a little demonstration? Trust me on Saturday,

if I score or if we win, you will be seeing these moves on Saturday.

That's worth watching the highlights programme! Just for that! Thank you.

Thank you. We are back Lincoln Lounge. Good

afternoon, everyone. Are you all right?

CHEERING They are up for the cup! People do

talk about the size and the fact he is the strongest player, which he is

quite proud of, but have either of you had to mark somebody as

formidable as that? I've had to mark a lot of people bigger than me, for

obvious reasons! The thing you can't afford to do with somebody like that

is you can't allow them to dominate so you've got to give your

distances, use everything in your power, on the fringe of breaking the

rules occasionally with your arms, just to make sure you protect

yourself and don't let them dominate it up I'd pass him on! You can mark

on corners! He's incredibly strong so don't try and mark him with

strength because he will just take the Mickey out of you. That's what

he can do. He's a big strong lad but he can still score goals, hold it

up, and he's got talent. He is just a unit and I'd hate to mark him. I

always found jumping into Google was the best form of defence. I can

vouch for that! Needed that many times against meet drop whatever you

do to get an advantage! From a certain perspective, quite a few

teams playing away from home this weekend. Will talk about the other

non-league sides. Playing on a three Gbits, what advantage does that give

you, bearing in mind Sutton play and train on it most weeks? As good as

they are, it doesn't play like a real grass pitch and you have to

adapt the way you pass the ball, you can't go so long if you need to. The

read of the ball and the bouncers different. Your positional play...

When you are nowhere near the ball, your positional play has to be

better because that ball is going to regional area very quickly so you've

got to be aware of how much quicker it is playing on the surface. We

heard from Roarie Deacon, who has scored a few goals and been

impressing people and other goals are looking at him. Buddhism in the

FA Cup do and you have a personal experience. -- that is something the

FA Cup do. If you can get in the spotlight, and people can't ignore

goals good performances. I was fortunate to score a couple of goals

against Sheffield Wednesday for Cambridge United and I ended up

getting move to Manchester United. That is a dream move that happens

once every 50 years but if you can keep doing it, stay in the eye line,

you never know who is watching. How soon after the game did someone give

you a tingle on the phone? It was months, not years. They said, "We've

seen you do that and would like to take you...? Sir Alex Obama seen me

play live. He had a video tape and I think it was Betamax back then, of

my goals. He said, I fancy a bit of this man, get him signed up. I knew

I was in the wrong position! I nearly got sold down the leagues!

Stop being down on yourself. The fourth round of the FA Cup kicked

off last night with an East Midlands derby. Graham was commentating on

this. Here we go. Akinfenwa All eyes on East Midlands

at Pride Park tonight. In the end it's an awful own goal.

Darren Bent can't believe it. Craig Bryson to give them the lead! Gray!

Over Bent. Simpson can't deal with it. There's the header and there's

the equaliser from Morgan. Leicester and Derby must do it all again.

So, four goals last night. We have had an early goal at Anfield, Wolves

are a goal up. We said it would be a day where Wolves would go for it.

Well, this is it. Now they can invite Liverpool. I'm sure that the

game plan is to try to stop the space behind them.

So, searman getting the goal for Wolves. Something else to talk

about, Arsene Wenger will be watching in the stands, a four-game

ban. Do you think he got off lightly with this? Not having a stadium ban?

I think it's about right. I think they have it right. I have been

speaking to Graeme about this. He has been giving insight into what

could have happened. Because he admitted he had done something

wrong, the FA see it favourably. That may have gone a way to reducing

the ban, the same with the fine. I think there could be a question mark

about whether or not a couple of games should have been stadium

banned. The full ban. Obviously you have to make sure as an organisation

that players and managers know you cannot man handle officials.

Does it affect the players? Some will be delighted that the manager

is not on the touch line. They will! Some players like to get on with it.

Some time they feel that the manager is in your ear. It will benefit

some, hinder others. The other thing is he does not have history. He has

not been in front of FA for several years. So that is taken into

context. I think it is right.

He Haas had a few. Bits and bobs. Well, we are live from Lincoln. If

you switched on, this is Football Focus, we are here until 1.00pm. We

still have this on the way for you. Jamie Raven is weaving his Cup

magic. And the Millwall manager, Neil Harris as his side eye up

another big boy. We also have Hull taking on Fulham

this week. Apologies with the break up in the sound, Ryan Mason, we saw

last week, a horrible injury, within an hour, into hospital having an

operation, the players are visiting him this weekend at St Mary's

Hospital. It shows you how much medical care has come on in the last

few years? And rightly so. Anything can happen quickly on a football

field or in any sport. The way that they dealt with Ryan Mason was

outstanding. They were all there. I forget the doctor's name he was at

Liverpool for many years but he took charge. He said don't do that. He

was instructing everything. To get on there, to get it sorted. To know

exactly. Sometimes doctors know from a player's body language how bad the

incident is. You famously broke your neck at

Aston Villa and then went back on and played again. Would it be

different these days in the care that was taken? Probably a one-off

incident on my behalf. I crushed C 5. I was off the pitch. The

shoulders by the ears, I said I was fine, I went on the pitch for a

minute and then the physio knew. The game has taken big strides on

getting professional people on the heart of the incidents and dealing

with these situations far better. It is the first person on the pitch

that is key. So that support that the players have now is fantastic.

Proof is obviously with Ryan Mason's situation, how quickly they dealt

with it. With the players if they stay down,

if a player stays down and doesn't move, there is something wrong.

We do wish Ryan Mason all the best and hope he makes a full recovery.

And on the pitch for Hull, Robert Snodgrass, liver liver liver has

gone as well, they seem to be preparing for going the wrong way

down? It is a concern. The players see the other players being sold,

the morale is a key issue -- Livermore.

The atmosphere in the dressing room will be important.

The play the players thinking what can they achieve without Snodgrass

and Livermore, they are bottom of the table nothing is going right,

they will be worried. Let's hear from Josh McEachran, his

side take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. He has been around the

block. 18 months ago he turned up at Brentford. Juliette Ferrington went

to see him. Josh McEachran is coming on, an indication of how highly

rated he is by Carlo Ancelotti. I started at Chelsea. Signed a

professional contract and made the diboo at Chelsea at 17. . I got

along with AB V well. He said I could stay but he was not sure of

the game time. I went to Swansea, since then it has been up an down.

You come back off loan, then packing another case and shooting off again.

How difficult was it? Of course it is unsettling, but about I didn't

expect to walk into the Chelsea first team. You have to earn your

place. At that time, for whatever reason, the manager didn't think I

had heroined my place. It was unsettling. Up and down the

motorway, living out of the back of a car. That is part and parcel of

being a professional footballer at such a big club. Chelsea, Manchester

United, they are all the same. Is it hard to understand,

frustrating that so few young English players come through the

ranks at such big clubs? It is frustrating but if you are good

enough, if the manager believes in you, you will get a chance. Chelsea

are getting better at it with the likes of Loftus-Cheek.

When you realised that your time had ended at Chelsea, how difficult was

it for you to divorce yourself from the situation? Towards the end, when

I was at Vitesse Arnhem, I still had a year to the end of the contract

but I couldn't see myself breaking it. So I took it upon myself to

start a new chapter at Brentford, to get settled and playing back week

in, week out. Bradford City, 2-0 down away at

Chelsea. They are back to win it 4-2.

Does Bradford give you hope from a couple of seasons ago when they went

to the Bridge and came back with success? Yes. You never know what is

going to happen. I know it will be tough. I'm looking forward to it.

The Chelsea fans are excited to see me back there playing.

What connection do you have with the Chelsea fans, even though the game

time at the Bridge was limited? I think that they are desperate to see

a young English lad coming through. The last one was John Terry. They

think, I think that is why they took so kindly to me. I'm still 23. I

want to be playing in the Premier League. Back playing at the top

levels. I still have to work hard, improve as a player. Hopefully, I

still think that I can get there. A lot was expected from him from an

early age. At Chelsea from the age of eight. Do you think he could be

right. That the club could have helped him more? I think it is the

down side of the loan stem. He burst into the team. Everybody pinned

hopes on him as he was home-grown. As he said, Chelsea were looking for

somebody to compare with JT. There was a lot of criticism to the club

about not developing home-grown players. From that point of view,

once you are farmed out, going on loan, learning the profession it is

not a bad thing, I agree with season but four, five seasons you never

establish a style of play that suits you and finding it hard to get the

best out yourself as a player. So I think he as a result of that has

found himself struggling a bit as he has huge potential. He has played at

England level all the way up. U16 captain for England. Up to 221s. He

has an opportunity to show his quality, play on a big stage and say

to everyone: Look, this is what I'm capable of. Maybe this is a

springboard. He is still only 21. It is young.

And Chelsea, they are so formidable, especially at home.

They are wiping the floor with everybody. So many good players.

They seem to have a balance. They know exactly what the manager wants,

how to perform to stay where they are, the top of the tree they've

been great to watch. They will know what it is all about. To know what

to expect. He will see a few old face but it will go out of the

window when the game starts. Liverpool on Tuesday, Arsenal the

following weekend, it could be a decisive week in the title race?

Yes. Chelsea have the system, the 3-4-3. Every player knows his role.

Strong defensively, they are creating chances. So the balance,

that put them as my favourites. Well, we have put a lot into the

programme this week, even a magician, here we go, here is Jamie

Raven. The players know what it is like to

play a giant at the FA Cup. I'm here today to show them it is like

performing a magic trick. All you need is confidence... Composure...

And perfect timing. What a night! What I love the most

about football, and I'm a huge fan is this: You are never on your own.

I do most of what I do on my own. I never have someone looking out for

me. Every now and then I can do a trick with a helper. This is my

assistant. He is doing the trick. It is important that he does not see or

hear anything. Put your hand on top of that. A massive game against

Brighton. Think two things: What is the score and who will score the

first goal? Amy, help me out. We need a card to write the information

down on. Say stop anywhere. Stop.

Brilliant, do you have a score in your head. Write down the first

score and scorer. Now we lose the cards. I will not do anything. You

are happy he cannot see the card. Take out the stick man. I need you

to roll him up into a football. Place the cards in the pack. When

you are done hold him nice and tight. Check out that bad boy! We

are putting our magician, our assistant inside the little canon.

Can I brow him for a second? We are stuffing him inside the canon. Then

I'm hoping he's going to find our card. We will need encouragement,

guys, he is a bit shy. Can I have an "oh... "? Stop. That is rubbish. Do

it again. Our little stick man as burnt himself through the card. You

can see clearly there is a stick-man shaped hole through all of the

cards. Until we get down to one... Dude, what was the score you thought

it would be? 1-0. Who did you say that the first

scorer would be? Nathan. There is one card with a stake man

on it. All of the rest. Absolutely nothing. Show the camera.

Can I have a round of applause! I need some explanation of that trick.

I have to watch it again. It is baffling me! Here we are in the

Lincoln dressing room with Matt Reid taking on the Brighton might. Is it

is day when you feel nervy, or the fact you have taken on Ipswich and

beaten a championship side. Does it make you feel comfortable? Yeah,

definitely but we are playing against a very good team. We have to

match and do better than before. I'm sure that the managers say take

it as it comes but it is not a normal game, nor a normal build-up.

The fans have been outside from 4. .35am, there is a huge expectation

on you and the team? Yeah, definitely, the underdog is a title

to embrace. Hopefully we'll get a result.

Do you or has the manager approached the game the same as the Ipswich

game or changed it because it is Brighton? We have done the stuff we

have to do about Brighton. Watched the videos on them. That has not

been different for us, that is good. It's a tough ask but we'll give it

our best shot. The style of football you play, what are you looking for

from your team-mates? Who will give you the opportunity? The wingers.

The set pieces are a massive opportunity for us. We have scored a

few from the set pieces. But from the goals in the teams we are one of

the top scorers in the league. Just cross it for him! What has the

influence of the Cowley brothers been? I know they are detailed. They

have spent a long time preparing you with video analysis. What difference

have they made to the club? There was a time you were thinking of

leaving? Definitely. I spoke to them from day one. They've been

unbelievable. They want to do well. This give every opportunity they can

to be successful. That is great. We have a good opportunity this year.

They won't leave a stone unturned to bring success to the team.

I know quite a few of your playing partners are watching and probably

waiting for you to make a slip-up but do you think the players have a

belief that today could be one of those days? Is there some

confidence, inner feeling, that you can do it? There are signs all over

the dressing room on the club. You a player who at those things? Not

really. Phase of his big belief in the previous game and as it stands,

we got nothing to fear today. We're playing against a championship team

and we will have a bit more opportunity. On BBC Radio

Lincolnshire at the end of the game, the commentator said, "If there is a

baby being born in Lincoln tonight, they need to be called after Nathan

Arnold who scored the goal". There was a baby that night but they

didn't name in Nathan, they called it Bradley! I didn't know that the

wave of his forgot the name wrong. Obviously, Bradley had a good game.

Have a good game. Enjoy the experience and we will see what

happens come 5pm. After splashing Bournemouth in league

three, -- Millwall face more Premier league opposition in the shape of

Watford. Ivan Gaskell has been to see Millwall's record goal-scorer

turned manager Neil Harris. What does it mean to me? Ambition. What

does the FA Cup mean to me? Dreams, Wembley. When I think of Millwall

and the FA Cup, my mind drifts back to 2004 and the Millennium Stadium.

It was my dream to play in the cup final. It means everything to me

having achieved that and I've been able to pass it onto my players and

I say to my players before each round, it may be the first round, it

may be the third round, Division 1, Division 2, Conference team... To

get to the fifth round of the cup is a phenomenal achievement and for a

championship club to get to a final is awesome. It was in the FA Cup

where you broke the club's all-time scoring record it up it was a

special achievement. To surpass someone of his stature was huge.

Something I had been chasing for a period of time, the individual

achievement, being the record goal-scorer at a club, is huge.

Stevie Morrison started talking about chasing my record. There was a

simple answer, just don't pick him. I think if he got to 120, I might

have to start leaving him out! The quarterfinal draw away... Thank you

very much. So you go from player to manager. What are the challenges of

making the transition? For instance, you've got several players who are

now managing who you used to play alongside. How is that? Fortunately,

we are talking about really good pros. Really good senior players.

Good friends of mine when I played, top professionals, so it makes the

relationship and managing them very easy. It is not a problem to manage

because they are good players. I do recall being really shocked one day

when I woke up and read that you were suffering from cancer.

Fortunately, I was young and naive. I was 23 when I was diagnosed and

maybe a lack of knowledge helped me at the time. The downside was that I

was young in my career and playing really well and sitting back and

looking now, you can be as honest as you like now you've retired,

probably not quite hitting the levels I did precancer. But I dealt

with it like everything else. You tackle it head on. There were so

many good times afterwards. Back in the training pitch, the training

ground... Scoring your first goal... Things like that are real

highlights. Funnily enough, that first goal when you came back was

against Watford. Yeah. Bizarre, probably that it just happened to be

Watford. That was a big moment at the time. 2002 was a big moment. It

completely separate from Sunday's game. It is a tough game for us.

Hopefully we can get a result of the weekend. We have moved outside to

the directors' box. Neil Harris is a Manu played with and know very well

and the good news this week the Millwall is that the future of the

ground is secure. When you played with Neil, did you feel he had that

management touch? He was a nuisance! He was a centre forward that was a

nuisance, had to win everything, always wanted to be on the winning

side. Had to quit plaintively scored. So we have that mentality.

-- had to keep playing until he scored. He always had that

managerial, what's the word, streak in him. If you are doing it in

training, when it comes to games later on in life... It's a skill

set, it is what you can take from your football career and apply it to

your management career, so the experiences he's had, his natural

personality and putting that together. You are right about the

ground, that is a massive bit of news. It is not over in the sense

that they have withdrawn the application but it gives them a

reprieve and it shows the spirit of the supporters and everybody to get

behind that. It could be a tricky afternoon for Watford. Another

Premier league side who may be in for not the best weekend.

Psychologically, when I played FA Cup games, I was playing for a

Premier league club at the time, it was hard to motivate yourself

sometimes because everything about the game itself is set up for you to

fail as the favourite, even down to the referee. Tackle comes in and

he's more likely to give the opponent from the lower division the

benefit of the doubt of everything up settles -- unsettles you. You

have to be spot on as an individual and as a team. Are you able to share

any memories of your time at Millwall? On live television, no!

Not a single-storey? There are lots of times in the dressing rooms when

it has got physical. They wanted to... Sean Dyche was in the dressing

room and Tim Cahill and Paul Ifield, we had some really good players and

then you had little cop Chopper in your ear because he wanted to win

all the time. He knows what the fans demand and he's just trying to give

them it. You can see Millwall taking on Watford on BBC One tomorrow at

11:50am. That is followed by Manchester United versus Wigan.

Highlights of all of Sunday's games on much of the day and the fifth

round draw will be live on The One Show from 7p on Monday night. To

give you an idea of the geography, this is the wonderful Lincoln

Cathedral. You get pretty clear view of it from the directors' box, which

is where the man who has joined us will be sitting this afternoon, Paul

Barber, the chief executive from Brighton. We've talked a lot about

Lincoln understandably but from a bite in perspective, top of the

championship. Is this the thought of game you don't want? Not really at

this stage but Lincoln have been going really well, having a great

season, and we are enjoying a great season and it should be a cup tie.

Are their concerns from a player's point of view? Chris Hughton were

saying there may be some changes made but at this stage of the

season, it is about giving that momentum going? We don't want to

lose any games. We also want to give our squad and opportunity to play. A

few lads haven't had as much football as they would have liked so

they will see some football today. Keeping the momentum going, the

confidence up, looking forward to another big game on Thursday at

Huddersfield and get through this one and we've got a fifth round to

look forward to so we'll see to it getting through is a good way of

putting it. We were talking about Knockaert a few weeks ago and you

are all set out. You are a Premier league side playing the championship

and your fans feel this could be the season. I was just talking about

this with some guys and we don't get anything for being first in January.

We have tried to instil this in the club and we know we have still got a

lot of work to do in the second half of the season. There are a lot of

good teams in the second of the championship. We want to get there

but there no guarantees. You got that setup, structure and the

manager behind the team. Do you feel you need anything else to click on?

I think we just want to try and keep everyone fit, try and avoid

suspensions, red cards and bookings. And in the championship, you need a

bit of luck and I think last year we lacked a bit of luck at key times.

But we want to try and you going. We are a humble club but we've got very

modest beginnings and we've been through a lot over the years so if

we were able to it, it would be good. How have you got to where you

are today? I played up the old stadium and I look brighter now and

you've come 1 million miles. So professional, the stadium is

amazing, the team are doing so well. I think you've got a fantastic

manager. How have you achieved in such a short space of time? We are

lucky, our chairman has invested a huge amount of money in the club, in

infrastructure, the stadium, the training ground. He's also got out

of his way to hire the best possible people at all levels and Chris

Hughton has done a fabulous job since he came into the football club

and we're very lucky to have him. We wish you all the best. Thanks for

talking to us. It is currently Liverpool 0-1 Wolves at Anfield. You

can follow the game across the BBC. This is how warm welcome we've had

from Lincoln. After the game, we've been invited to someone's house for

pie and chips. I will see you there! A warning, Dion Dublin has got a big

appetite! Predictions on the BBC website from Radio 1's Adele Roberts

and 1Xtra's A.Dot are on the BBC Sport website. Highlights of the

Aussie open women's final between the Williams sisters is on BBC One

in 15 minutes. Owen said hello so he is going to say goodbye. So straight

down that camera. Over to you, I went from Lincoln. Just a peer. So,

over to you! What is coming up later? I mentioned it to you

earlier. Oh, the magic of the cup! There you go. We will leave you with

something you loosened up for a brilliant weekend. Owen, you are a

star. See you all again! Bye-bye for now.

That is an absolute present. What a fantastic track from Aaron Ramsey.